Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Ravens-49ers, Raiders shock Chiefs, Eagles beat Giants

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Baltimore Ravens taking on the San Francisco 49ers, the Raiders shocking upset of Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating the New York Giants, and much more on this Christmas episode of Nightcap! 00:00 - Introduction01:00 - Ravens beat 49ers18:00 - Shannon on his previous Lamar criticism28:30 - Raiders beat Chiefs41:00 - The Belichick coaching tree stinks48:30 - Why we have ads1:19:00 - Training camp stories1:35:00 - Overcoming self doubt1:45:00 - Much more Nightcap #Herd #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We've also pinned Shay by LaPortier link at the top of the chat. Christmas is here. It's about to pass us, but you have New Year's and you have President's Day. So there's always a chance to go get a bottle for someone that you love or yourself. Let's get right into the game tonight. There was a beatdown in the Bay, and it wasn't rendered by the 49ers. It was the Ravens that brought their show on the road. The first team with five picks in the game this season, their defense overwhelmed.

The frontrunner at the start of the game, MVP Brock Purdy, picked him off what looked like a very promising drive to start the opening possession. Ocho, Kyle Hamilton made a great play on the ball. He intercepted it. And they really never looked back from that point. The offense scored seven points and scored points on seven straight possessions. The Ravens offense scored points on seven straight possessions and led by as many as 21. And I know the score final score was 33 19. But the score, it wasn't indicative of how.

What a demolition job the Ravens did on the 49ers. Yeah, the Baltimore Ravens have won five straight games and can clinch the number one seed next week with a win against the Miami Dolphins. Ocho, when you look at this game, what was one of your what was a couple of your big takeaways? Listen, obviously, when I had picked thinking about it, I had picked the Ravens to win the game. But then I thought about how could the Ravens win this game with a high powered offense, a juggernaut offense that is a 49ers. And the first thing I thought about when it comes to NFL games, it's all about matchups. It's all about matchups and schemes. And how well do the Ravens defense

match up against the 49ers offense? It's all about personnel. It's all about personnel and the players you have at each position and how does each position match up individually. And they match up really well, really well. But what scared me about this game is they had the turnovers early.

They had the turnovers early. They got one touchdown in the turnovers, but they had two field goals. They had two field goals. And I just kept thinking to myself, well, if he gets getting field goals, that'll still get you beat because the offense of the 49ers is very high-powered. And they had three interceptions. 49ers went down and scored, and all of a sudden,

it was a one-point game. You hadn't capitalized at all. So that kind of scared me a little bit about it. And I had tweeted it out. I said, listen, if you're going to get these turnovers, you're going to have to score points.

Not no goddamn field goals. Let's make it a barn burner and run away with the game so defensively you can force the 49ers to make mistakes and get outside of their game plan and what they really like to do and listen they ended up winning lamar now lamar is 21 and 1 versus nfc nfc uh teams in his career yep best in staff i think it's best in stabler. Yeah. The merger. Yeah. He was 23 for 35, but 252,

two TDs. Zay Flowers. Man, Zay Flowers is nice, man. Yeah. But the thing was, you mentioned the 22 and 35, Ocho, 252 and zero touchdowns. Yeah. But it was a clean game.

No interceptions. No picks. No interceptions, no picks. Zay was nine for 72 in the TD. The Ravens have won nine of the last 10 games. 9 of the last 10 games, plus they had 4 sacks on Purdy. Listen, the remaining schedule for the Ravens, obviously they had a gauntlet of games to play the last 4.

They got the Dolphins and the Steelers coming up. Right. The Dolphins, that's another test. Another playoff atmosphere type game against the Dolphins, that's another test. Another playoff atmosphere type game against the Dolphins, which has another high-powered offense just like the 49ers. Because the Dolphins want that number

one seed also. They want everything to come through Miami. Yep. You're right. You're absolutely right. The Ravens get five turnovers four sacks two on Purdy two on Sam Darnold but I thought the fake oh Joe when you look at and for like the last five weeks I think everybody had come to the conclusion the two best teams

in the NFL were the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers right okay we're I said and I said we're gonna find out who what you got going on come Christmas. Now, when you got two teams and we're right here, what's the one thing that can put the other team way up on top of you? Turnovers. Turnovers, yeah. You look at what the 49ers, the 49ers had been beating people. The Ravens did to them what they had been doing to other teams.

When you turn the ball over that many times, Ocho, it's hard for you to win. I don't care how great your offense is, and I don't care how great your defense is. The likelihood of you keeping them to kick field goals, that's great. But the likelihood when you got a guy that's won the MVP, he's in the MVP discussion right now, and now he's probably

in the lead, considering the guy that, I mean, and Purdy was a substantial lead in front of Lamar. But considering how bad he looked and how good Lamar looked, it's hard for me to see a scenario that he's not the favorite.

And I believe Christian McCaffrey, who was in third, is now in second, considering that he looked good and Purdy looked so bad. But Lamar deservingly so, deserved to be in the MVP discussion because he was good with it. He didn't turn the ball all over. He made plays.

You see the thing is, Ocho, when I watched the 49ers, and I watched them very closely, they're a team that like to jump off the ball and go get the quarterback. Oh yeah. But if you see how they rush, they rush right down the man. They didn't want to give him lane that he can take off running. Well, you make the

offensive line job very easy if you don't get on edges. So now all they do is anchor, let you walk them back step by step and now Lamar has time to survey the field. Because the one thing it seemed like they didn't want to do is give him a lane and let him jump out the window and take off right and this is what I liked about Lamar tonight though this is what I like about Lamar because coming

out they say oh he's a running back he's a running back but now his game has evolved to the point where now I'm a drop back passer and I'm not running the ball unless I have to unless I have no goddamn Helen Choice hell high water I got to take off and run it and then he out here acting like Houdini with it not only is he escaping the pocket so the 49ers had their game plan can I ask you a question

where was Bosa tonight they rented the offensive line because Bosa likes to bend the edge yeah everybody wants to bend the edge right ocho if i run up field what you think lavar gonna do he gonna step up in one of the up in the pocket so now right it's like it's like ocho is gonna be one of those game um ocho we're not gonna you know that pass rush so everything's gonna be quick or we're gonna try to run the ball right and pass rush, so everything's going to be quick, or we're going to try to run the ball.

And then everybody look up and say, man, look at Ocho's numbers. Ocho ain't have no chance to get the ball because the offensive line wasn't going to be able to hold up. And see, that's the thing. At the end of the day, you got, and I understand what Steve Wilks, the defensive coordinator, was trying to do. He's like, guys, we don't want to give him an edge. We don't want to give him lanes.

We don't give him, we just want, you know. But at some point in time, you said, you said look guys we tried it this way and we can't get him on the ground at some point in time we got to change it up Ocho right right right I mean they say Ocho hey Ocho you got to go to the coach coach the dude sitting outside I can't run the aisle he's playing outside leverage right right right right he ain't cut give me a dig give me give me something that I'm breaking away because he's playing outside leverage because he don't want me

to run by him and he don't want me to run this speed out. Well, at some point in time, you got to say, hey, go get the quarterback. And if he gets the lane, he gets the lane.

Lane, yeah. And that's on me if he does do. If he's on me, he does. Yeah. Because how many times did he by time find Zay Flowers?

By time find Bateman? By time find likely? Likely. Yeah. So what are we doing at this point? And give him credit. I mean, you see the sidearm throws. He was making plays, and he didn't put the ball in harm's way.

The 49ers put the ball in harm's way, and the game got away from him. Like we've seen. The Eagles put the ball in harm's way, and the game got away from them. Like we've seen. The Eagles put the ball in harm's way. 49ers ran away from them. The Cowboys didn't have that many turnovers. But Seattle, look at the teams they beat. Normally, they win the turnover battle. You can't turn the ball over five times against a good football team.

And the Ravens are in. I believe the Ravens are the best team in the AFC. I believe they were the second best team in the NFL. Well, I don't think anybody's going to doubt now they're the best team in the AFC. I believe they were the second best team in the NFL. Well, I don't think anybody's going to doubt now they're the best team in the NFL considering they've just beat what many thought was the best team in the NFL.

And they went on the road to do it. That's fact. They went and leave our stadium to do it. I think they are the best team in the NFL, but what I think it is, is about hitting your stride at the right time. I also wouldn't count out the goddamn Rams who are playing really good football at the right time. They're catching their stride at the right time. The 49ers won't be playing a defense like that of the 49ers.

Like the Ravens, you mean? I'm sorry, like the Ravens. I think other teams that they will match up with, they can dominate based on personnel, based on what they do from a schematic standpoint. They can have an advantage, but the Ravens for some reason match up against them very, very well. Very well. I always say, it's one thing to look at

the teams that are playing, but then you look at the personnel, and if you understand the personnel and the players that they have, you know that they match up with that team very well. Ocho, if you look at the first interception, it's quarters coverage. There's nothing to hold the front side safety. Nothing at all.

Nothing at all. Why would he? I understand he's like, okay, Deebo's crossed the backside safety space, but what's holding the front side safety? Nothing. They had nothing there. Nothing.

They had nothing there, yeah. And so I'm looking, I'm like, bro, what are you seeing? First of all, we get a game plan, Ocho. We come in a situation, okay, at this area of the field, this down and distance, this area of the field, this is the coverage they like to play. Right. Okay.

This is against this formation. Against this formation, they like to play this coverage. So you have a general idea of kind of the coverage that they're going to play. Based on down and distance, yeah. Down and distance and area of the field. Bro, you drop back. It's quarters. The safety basically go drop straight back.

I get it. You try to hold the backside. You flare one side and you run, I think it's George Kittle. You run him like a square out now the only way you can hold him is that if you have him push up higher but if you notice the corner sunk on the back side

so there's really nothing he doesn't have to do anything he just see it and Kyle Hamilton like thank you and then the other two interceptions bro Stevens come they run double slot blitz stevens come from one side marlon humphrey come from the other he gets his hands up he bats the ball up in the air purdy tries to locate it well by this time marlon humphrey

doesn't know he didn't already got it yep and then the other one uh uh uh cal hampton's on the ground he gets up off the ground off a carom. You see how hustle? You see what hustle does? And being in the right place at the right time. Yes.

Being in the right place at the right time. But did you watch those 49ers receivers? Did you see them going, George Kittle catch that ball? Did you see IU? Yeah.

Did you see Debo? Did you see those guys? Those guys. We're going to talk Kittle catch that ball. Did you see how you, yeah. Do you see, do you see Debo? Do you see those guys? Those guys. We're going to talk about this later, but did you see the kids on Devante Smith runs? Yeah. Did you see how he hit him on the DB on the 10 and pancake them in the ends?

I don't know. Yeah. Hey, but in this game, kudos to the Baltimore Ravens. You're right. Now the best team in football, regardless of conference. Lamar Jackson is the MVP front runner, I believe.

That's what I was going to ask you. I mean, basically, you can actually give it to him. We got two games left in the season. And obviously, you know, MVP is based on what you've done throughout the regular season. Regular season. They got the Dolphins and the Steelers next. I think the showing against the Dolphins at home at M&T Bank Center, whatever it's called where they play.

M&T Stadium, yeah. Yeah, M&T. I think he's going to have a good game. So based on his showing these next two games, wouldn't you say Lamar Jackson would be the NFL's MVP regardless of statistics? But you know what? Hold on. So are you telling me if he has a game like Brock Purdy, he's still the MVP?

Well, I mean, he's not going to have it. He's not. Did you think Brock Purdy was? Listen, offensively, the Ravens aren't a volume passing team like the 49ers are. The 49ers aren't. The chances of having a game like that is slim to none. You know Brock Purdy throw the 26 most passes in the NFL even though he was second in passing yards. For real? They're a running

team. Think about the passes that they throw, Ocho. They're swing passes. Quick, quick, quick. I see you going with it. But you got two games to go. A lot of things can happen in two games. But right now

as they're getting, they're showering and feeling good about themselves, and rightfully so. Yeah. Lamar Jackson is your MVP right now. Okay. Okay. He's your MVP, like, right now. I got Christian McCaffrey in second. In second.

I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm going to go out on a limb. And knowing with it only being two games left, the momentum, the confidence, the morale that the team has right now, I have a good feeling that that momentum is going to continue into next week and obviously it's going to continue on to the Steelers. And he probably will be the MVP for the second time. It's just something about

the hair of the thing. You know the Ravens and the Steelers don't like each other. Oh, yeah. That's a division rival. Yeah, I know about that. I know about that. Yeah. Now you, look, you know how division rival games go, but there's nothing, I mean, this. I know about that. Yeah. Look, you know how division rival games go. But there is nothing. I mean, this is like Michigan-Ohio State. This is North Carolina.

This is North Carolina Duke. Right, right. This is the Hatfield-McCoy. They despise each other. Yeah, literally. Literally, they do. And if you think the Steelers, because the Steelers are going to probably need to win that game to make the playoffs. Right.

So. Oh, shit. For real. That that game to make the playoffs. Right. So. Oh, shit. For real? That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

That's right. Because the Ravens clinched the division. So now they need this to make the playoffs. That make the implications of that game even that much more serious. Yes. For the Steelers. Yeah. Yeah. And if I get a. But it still is. Yeah. Yeah.

And if I get a chance to, let's see. Not only can I clinch the division, I can make sure somebody else have home field instead of you. Right. Hey, I get two birds for one. Hey, I get two for the prize for one. But it's going to be great. Congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens.

Go on the road three time zones. That's a long way to travel, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, listen, it's going to be a beautiful flight home. I know that. It's going to be a beautiful flight home. If you had lost, you got to take that five-hour flight from the west to the east.

It ain't going to be pretty. And then getting home. I mean, it's already midnight on the east. They haven't even left the stadium yet. Nah, not at all. Not at all. They ain't going to the stadium yet. Nah, not at all. Not at all. So by the time they leave the stadium.

They ain't going to take off until maybe, let me see, team 53 players, staff, got to unload all the equipment. They probably ain't going to take off until about one o'clock.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. About one, one, one, one, 15,

one, 30, Ocho. Yeah, about that. East Coast time. It'll be 10, it'll be 10, 10,

30, West Coast time. Yeah. But we took, because they traveling East. So that 1.30, Ocho. Yeah, about that. East Coast time. It'll be 10, 10.30 West Coast time. Right, right, yeah. But we took, because they traveling east. So that's a five, that's a, they ain't gonna get home

till about 6.30, 7 a.m. Easily, easily. Because that's what happened. We got back, we played Miami on a Monday night. And we had to come back to Denver.

Ocho, I was like, and Mike's like, okay, you know, you got off. And I normally come in, andcho, I was like, and Mike's like, okay, you know, you got off. And I normally come in. Hell, I just started. I worked out. I got my stuff. I changed out of my clothes. I got me a workout. I see y'all on Wednesday.

Right, right, right, right. Hey, brother's already 530. 6 o'clock. I'm just going to get my workout. Get it out of the way. And be done with it. Congratulations, Ravens. Gut check. Let the 49ers know, hey, bro, there's some things we need to work on. Because at the end of the day, no matter how good we are,

if we turn that ball over, we become very average. No team has ever been good enough to overcome five turnovers, especially when you're dealing with a Baltimore Ravens on the other side. So congratulations, Ravens. They're the AFC North champs and currently still the number one seed and Lamar Jackson, NFL front runner for the MVP. Ocho, we've already got 40,000 in the chat.

What? Yes, 40,000. Hey, 40,000 people. I love y'all. I appreciate you. I love you. Make sure you subscribe. Make sure you subscribe.

Hey, guess what? 39,916 of my Baltimore Ravens fans. Zach, Zach is as much love and respect both Unk and Ocho. Lamar Jackson is the MVP of the league. The numbers don't tell the whole story. Several times tonight, he's shown himself to be the champion. Zach, nobody, we said this, no quarterback is asked to carry

a load like Lamar Jackson. He's, for the most part, we already know he's the quarterback, so we know he's their passing game, but he's also the engine of their running game. And even though what did he have tonight? He only had 45 yards. They only had... I mean,

you look at Ocho, they only had 26 carries. They had 26 carries for basically 102 yards. And a lot of that was a scramble. You remember he had that long 30-yard run right before the house. He ended up getting him in field goal range. And so, but yeah, we

understand what's asked of Lamar on a weekly basis. basis very few because no other quarterback I mean can run like the other top quarterback obviously Justin Fields has legs like he had right right right Justin Fields you know that situation is what it is right of the top quarterback the Burrows the Mahomes the Herbertsts, the Dat, Tua, none of them is asked to shoulder a load like Lamar. Yeah, and the

funny thing, what I really like what they've done for Lamar and they can even improve it more is the supporting cast that they put around him to take the onus and the load off of his shoulders on not having to run, which is why I like the fact that he's now becoming what I like to consider more of a complete passer because you have receivers that can get open actually get open in one-to-one

situations you ain't got to scheme everybody because you you ain't gonna be able to scheme people open all the damn time and we're gonna talk about this a little later with the other team that we talked about and what i tell you ocho yeah them uh chiefs oh listen did you see your offsides. Oh, listen. Did you see an offside today? I'm just asking you. Did you see an offside offensive today? I got one more question. Did you see a dropped ball today? Yes.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But, hey, you know the NFL. You see what happened, Ocho, is that all the teams started sending the offside plays in.

Right. Ocho, they've called more offsides on offensive wide receivers this year than I can recall. I don't remember that many calls in my 14-year playing career. Do you remember? No. Honestly, no. And the fact that it was brought to our attention when the Chiefs had Kadarius

lining up offsides, not everybody they opened the floodgates for the call every single time. You know what's funny? You know what I like to do? And I can say it now because I'm not playing no more. I like to cheat the ball a little bit. Of course you do. You call it. I like to cheat the ball a little bit. Just a tad bit

because I know the refs not going to call it. It's not like egregious, completely offside. But I like to get a little air. Just a little bit. Maybe my face mask is over the ball. Yeah. I'm not going to block it. I'm not going to block his view. You just can't block his view.

His face mask, he still can look down the line and see the ball. I can see it, yep. Yes. And, hold up, Red Hood, you disappoint me thinking Brock Purdy is as good as Lamar Jackson and thinking he's elite and pre-re- Lord have mercy. I don't like what, you know, before you even answer that, before you even answer him,

I hate the comparison of the quarterbacks. I hate the comparison of the quarterbacks for the simple fact everything is stat-based, for one. Rightfully so, as you always tell me because numbers don't lie. But the skill sets- They don't tell the whole story, though. The whole story, but the skill sets between Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson are

completely different. Oh, Joe. Completely different. Oh, Joe. Remember when they was having this early on when he beat the Cowboys? Yeah. I was one of the only analysts that said Brock Purdy is an elite. Right, right, right.

But see, what the hell? They was on your head. They was on your head about that, too. Yes. Yes. Yes. But here's the thing. They got a...

See, they don't want to listen to what I have to say. They just want to take snippets of he said this over here, he said that over there. I never said Brock Purdy was elite. As a matter of fact, I was one of the few that said he wasn't elite. Second of all, just because someone is playing good, that doesn't make them better. You can have a better year than a quarterback and not be a better player. What is so

hard to understand about that, Ocho? There are a lot of people that won MVP during Michael Jordan tenure. Does that mean they were better players or they had a better year? That's okay. Same thing with LeBron. Same thing with Kobe. Y'all gotta stop this. See, y'all trying

to paint this picture now. None of y'all jumped and said, Shannon, thanks for supporting Lamar because when everybody else was telling him to switch positions and go play wide receiver, I was the one that said I saw the man win the Heisman Trophy. Throwing the ball and running it. At the quarterback position. At the quarterback position.

I believe he can do that in the NFL. When he was for the MVP, I remember his first playoff game against the Chargers. They were still in San Diego then, and they lost, and he didn't play well. I said, the guy's a rookie, and he's not right now able to throw the ball well enough in order to win. And what did he do? He came back, and from start to finish, he was the MVP.

36-6. 36 touchdowns, six interceptions. I i roll with it but they disregard all that yeah but because but see what y'all want barter and i'm gonna go ahead and say it see y'all got a problem with me y'all don't want me to critique black players as long as i'm critiquing the white players because when i was at baker mayfield and tony romo and all those white guys neck y y'all didn't say H-I-T. But now, if Lamar Jackson plays good, I got no problem. If Dak plays good,

I got no problem. But I cannot in good conscience know the game like I know it. Played it 14 years and now study it as if I'm a coach. See something that's going on. I told y'all from day one, the Cowboys concerned because of red zone offense. And what happens when the defense don't get pick sixes?

Oh, now all of a sudden, man, Ong was right. But that's not what you said at the time. You said I was a hater. Right. When I told you from day one about the Chiefs offense, the skill position, and the offensive line. Oh, Ong, shut up. And what did I say, Ocho, remember? Man, if Valdel Scantley had to hold that ball,

I said, Ocho, you got to be careful. Because, see, if you base somebody's offense on one play, look at it at its totality. Look how many times they dropped the ball. Look how many times Patrick Mahomes had to run for his life just to find somebody that was open or take off running. Man, y'all stop this. I ain't got no agenda against Lamar.

Yes, I played for the Ravens. This is how it works. I played for the Ravens. I played my ass off for the Ravens. I was fortunate enough, kept on winning the Super Bowl. Now I'm an analyst. What is so hard to understand about that? Just like I critiqued the Broncos.

Played 12 years for them. I'm not going to stop, guys. I don't care what y'all say, how many times y'all said, I hate Lamar, I got an agenda. I do have an agenda to be the best at what I do. And none of y'all, nobody that's in this chat know more football and can break it down and analyze the game like I can. So y'all use y'all criteria

to how y'all critique and grade players. And I'm going to use mine. Take off Ocho. Well, it's hard to follow up behind a sermon like that. It's hard to follow up behind a sermon like that. But listen, I understand where people are coming from. I see I'm on both sides of the coin, obviously. I think people think more emotion as if they think more with emotion. Feelings aren't facts though. Yeah. Emotions and being a fan of obviously the team and the player. So they want it to be one way. They want your views to be aligned with theirs. And when they don't align with theirs, then there's a problem. Oh, you don't like this person or you're hating on this person.

But again, you have a job to do. The criteria in which you judge and critique people is much different than those who are actually fans of the player and fans of the team. People have to understand that. Yes. Marcus Hosea, calm down. I'm a Raven fan. You've been fair with your critique.

Appreciate that, Marcus. I like to think I'm always fair, but I just got You've been fair with your critique. Appreciate that, Marcus. I like to think I'm always fair. But I just got to call it like I see it. It is. And I know it's hard to understand. I was the first one to say about the Eagles. Y'all didn't want to hear me. Y'all called me a hater.

Eagles fans called me a hater. I say you don't run the ball. Jalen Hurst is turning the ball over too much. And your defense don't get to the quarterback. And you don't take the ball away. So if you give it away and you don't take it away and you can't possess the ball to keep your defense off the field, you're going to be in

trouble and you're not going to look as powerful and as potent as you did last year. Last year, yeah. We're the best team in the NFL, but never fully healthy. J.K.'s been gone. Mark is gone. Staley is part-time left tackle and we still find ways. That's because of Harbaugh.

That's because the Ravens don't make excuses. I mean, when I went there in 2000, you play like a Raven. It doesn't matter who's in the ballgame. You play hard. And that's what John Harbaugh, I can honestly say, those guys are going to play hard. Think about the great players that

have come and gone gone from Jonathan Ogden Ray Lewis, Suggs Ed Reed doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who's in the lineup it's what you have, the uniform that you have on, you have on that purple and black, or you have on that white and purple, well we know who we

are, we know what we represent the standard is the standard you play to a level no matter who's in the game, no matter we know who we are. We know what we represent. The standard is the standard. You play to a level, no matter who's in the game, no matter who you play. And that's why the Ravens have been able to find success no matter who's in the ballgame. They don't always win. You're not going to win them all.

But if you play hard and you play for the man next to you, you're not going to have a problem. Dang, Boyd said, did people miss when Unk was lobbying for Lamar to get paid nah Dan stop you make too much sense

I've been saying this to the past saying hold on how you not going to pay the man y'all going to let the ink dry on his contract and then tell me why he not there y'all know why I not there everybody else got contracts after their third year every other quarterback, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson,

Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, all of them guys. They even did Jalen Hurst a solid. This man got to play the contract completely out and play on the franchise tag. Come on, man.

Man, please. Let's get into this other game. Which one? Going to the franchise tag. Yeah. Come on, man. Man, please. Let's get into this other game. Which one? Which one? Which one? Going to the Chiefs. Yeah. Hey, Jack Jones.

Jack Jones, I know you in the chat watching, boy. I know you watching. I need a jersey, baby. Kansas City Chiefs open the game with back-to-back three in our drive. And the Chiefs did not get a first down without a penalty

until their fourth possession. The Chiefs finished the first quarter with minus 18 yards, the worst quarter by a team since the Bears had minus 20 week 15 of four, week 15, 2004. We saw Mahomes laying into his offensive line on the sideline. We saw Travis Kelsey get so up, he slung his helmet. And the equipment guy tried to go get his helmet and Andy Reid said, nah, don't give him his helmet.

And he bumped him. He's like, come on now. You our leader. We can't have you like that. I understand the frustration. And that's what's hard, Ocho. Everybody's watching. Everybody's watching. And they got more cameras when you and I play because everybody want to catch everything. That's why you got to cover your mouth on the side

because they're going to read your lips. But you see the Chiefs had an opportunity to clinch the division for the eighth straight time and the Raiders, I think Antonio Pierce deserves that job with the way he's coaching this team and the way they're playing

hard for him. I think he deserves that. I think he deserves that job. But you watch the Chiefs and we've been talking about the Chiefs and you way they're playing hard for him. I think he deserves that. I think he deserves that job. But you watch the Chiefs and we've been talking about the Chiefs. And you thought they were going to get this thing together. When you look at the Chiefs, and we're going to touch on the Raiders also because we need to give them some flowers also. When you look at the Chiefs, what do you see? I see a team struggling.

I see a team struggling, similar to how Lamar has to carry the load, but actually not as much anymore because of the supporting cast that he put around Lamar with the Ravens. I see Patrick Mahomes having to do more. Having to do more with teams now. Okay, listen, we playing the Chiefs. What do we do?

We're going to lock in on Kelsey. We're going to lock in on Kelsey. We're going to line up all alignments based on him when we break this huddle. And we're going to force everyone else to beat us. We're going to force everyone else to beat us. Because what do we have to do? What do they have to do offensively? They have to scheme ways to get their players open.

Who do they have with the DNA or I call it the fortitude to be able to nobody 1v1 matchups consistently come hell or high water they don't they don't have that they don't have that so it puts the onus in the pressure on Patrick Mahomes they have to create miracles first down create a miracle second down create a miracle third down and it's just not possible. And now you're seeing the frustration boil over because everything is on his shoulders. And Kelsey can't do it all. He can't do it all. It's only so many times what you put on film is going to work.

At some point, the NFL catches up to you. At some point, the NFL catches up to the offense that you're running and your tendencies. And that is what we're seeing now. Because there's nobody over there. There's no Tyreek Hill. There's no Tyreek Hill. There's no security blanket

for him right now. Because the security blanket is Travis Kelsey. Oh, well, we take Travis Kelsey out the game. Then we take him away. What else you got? What else you got?

That's no disrespect to anybody else on that team offensively. But I'm just calling a spade a spade. There has to be another outlet that is a threat that poses some type of threat and they just don't have that no they do not have that and you and i both know this there's only so many formations you can run yeah there's only so

many times you can punch it or stack it there's only so many times you can motion there's only so many times you can get a three by one or two by two or three by two there's only so many times you can motion. There's only so many times you can get a three by one or two by two or three by two. There's only so many formations. And at some point in time, you got to have a guy that says, you know what? Just go get open. Just go get open. And they don't have that. You see, I'm watching DBs

now. DBs don't even get out of their back panel. They're not even moving. They're not even moving. You got a guy that you know can throw the ball over your head. Yeah. He said,

but y'all not gonna go down. Y'all not finna run no routes to go get it. So I'm sitting on everything. That's why the guy you was talking about how he picked it. Now Mahomes did throw it

off his back foot. That too. Oh, and you didn't see the receiver falling away from the ball? That's Scott Moore. Yes, he did. He falling away

from the ball. You gotta attack the. Yes, he did. He's falling away from the ball. You got to attack the ball. Ooh, Lord. See? See, you and I here. See, it's little stuff like that, Ojo, that allows a DB to undercut and to make a play on the ball.

Yeah. And because Patrick Mahomes is... Because now he feels, man, I got to make every play. And he's taking unnecessary risk. Do you know the Raiders scored 17

points and never completed a pass within those 17 points? Look, Patrick Mahomes, he's accomplished what he's accomplished. He's a two-time league MVP, a two-time Super Bowl winner with Super Bowl MVPs. But right now he's pressing and he's not playing well. Yeah, he's not. And it's exacerbated because he doesn't have anybody that can bail him out.

He doesn't have anybody that he can just dump the ball to or just hand the ball to. May happen. Like a Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. Brock, I mean, Brock Purdy was struggling. They could still, Christian McCaffrey still

ended up with over 100 yards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mahomes doesn't have that. No, they're going to have to address that.

They're going to have to address that in the offseason. They could have addressed it. They had an opportunity to get DeHop. DeHop. I don't think the money was right. I don't think the money

was right for DeHop. I'm just saying, I don't think the money was right. I don't think the money was right for DeHop. I'm just saying, I don't think the money was right. And I think they feel like, you know what? No, it wasn't. I'm saying, but you got to make the money right. Make the money right. I see what you're saying. But they don't want to make the money right because they feel Patrick Mahomes can get it done because he did it without Tyreek before.

So if we didn't have a dynamic player in Tyreek and he left and we still won the Super Bowl, I think we can get it done with the group we have in here now. But now, as you see, this season, now you have to address it. You have no choice but to get a dog in there. You have no choice. Nothing is more burdensome or tedious than expectations. See, when Tyreek left, they didn't have no expectations. I don't think Mahomes can do it because look it, he got a Scott Moore

and they had this guy and they had that guy. There wasn't the expectations to get to and win the Super Bowl like it is this year because Scott Moore is in his second season. Kadarius Toney has a full season in this system. MBS has another year in this system. So the

expectations this year were different than they were last year. And so now you see, Scott Moore is bad. He's regressed. Kadarius Toney has an injury and he's not even dressing.

Justin Ross, I remember Ross, he was a freshman at Clemson and did a demolition job on Alabama. Yeah. And, you know, he had an injury that caused him to miss, I think, an entire season. And he had some issues off the field this year that caused him to miss

five or six games. But, like you said, they take Kelsey away. And there's like like and because even Kelsey has been bitten by the drop bug. He had a ball. He had a ball. He jumped. You catch it with one hand. All he needed to do was this. Just reach up.

That's all he had to do. But all of a sudden it's contagious. And everybody's dropping the ball. Nobody's playing. The offensive line. I saw that the first game of the season. You sign a guy in free agency from Jacksonville everybody's dropping the ball. Nobody's playing. The offensive line, I saw that the first game of the season. You sign a guy in free agency from Jacksonville who was just a guy. You get Donovan Smith,

who's Asian, who was old and hurt last year in Tampa, and you bring him in and guess what? He's old and he's hurt now. And so you bring the backup in and he's getting blown by by Coop every play. Max Crosby is a different animal. I ain't seen nobody with a motor

like he is. Completely different animal. You know who you remind me of? Remember Jared Allen? Yes! You remind me of Jared Allen. Allen used to be in Kansas City. I think I might have called one year him. I'm not certain. But he

ended up going to Minnesota. But, you know, he ended up going to Minnesota. Minnesota. But I saw Max Crosby line up on the offensive right side. They run a quick screen to Kelsey on the left side. Left side. And he make the tackle. Tackle.

I said, and I'm thinking to myself, I said, I know Max Crosby just didn't make the tackle because I knew where he lined up at on the opposite side of the goddamn field he made the tackle hit Kelsey dead in his face yeah

I'm like what the hell now back to the Raiders I still think they need a quarterback because they're wasting Devontae Josh Jacobs I mean white red I think that's hold on

let me see hold on let me get the stats here you know I like my you know I got new guys you know I feel like I'm I feel like I'm a Tom Cruise in Minority Report you know I'll be hitting that screen I'll be hitting the screen yeah yeah that's what I'll be doing. Z White, 22 rushes, a buck 45, 43 long.

Remember, Ocho, Kansas City was trying to get the ball back. He's like, I ain't giving y'all this ball back. Hold on, let's take this thing over. He ran the air out of the ball, ended up taking the kneel down. So 22 for a buck 45 for him, 29 carries, 157. Aiden O'Connor was 9-21 for 62 yards. That just goes to show you turned the ball over. Yeah.

They fumbled for a touchdown, threw a, what, a pick six for a touchdown, had another interception that led to a field goal. That's 14 points. Yeah. So you score 14. Again, it's getting very difficult for the academy what oh joe man you know kansas city you already know you had to score 28 to 31 to beat them in there beat them oh yeah and this is just last year now this is just last year it's the funny thing about

it is mahomes has been that great. He's been that great where it's almost as if he's damn near immortal at the quarterback position. That's the way he's made it look so far in a short amount of time. To be able to win two Super Bowls, he's in what, fifth year? Fifth year or sixth year? 2016 was

his rookie season, right? Mahomes. 2017 was his rookie season. He won the MVP in 18 because Lamar was his rookie season Right 2017 was his rookie season He won the MVP in 18 Because Lamar was a rookie in 18 Won the MVP in 19 And so yeah You're right So what he's been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time

How good he is How good he is with all the throws And you know we're enamored by some of the things that he can do on the field winning two silver bowls in such a short amount of time it's almost become a thought that well we can have lesser talent around him because he is so great yes but now at some point like i said earlier teams they study you watch film, they understand your tendencies, and we say, well, you know what? The only weapon they do have is 87,

so all we got to do is lock in on him, and there's only so much creativity you can do. Listen, when they were rolling offensively, they were doing all type of ring around the road stuff outside the huddle. You can be creative, but nobody knows what the hell you're getting ready to do. Now everyone else is caught up. Everyone else is caught up,

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I think Sammy Watkins was there also the year he won the MVP. But at some point in time, that catches up with you. Yeah. It catches up with you. See, you know what happened what happened Ocho is that people had convinced themselves that Edelman and Amendola and Wes Welker they were just guys they're not they were really good see now we base receivers on if you're not Tyreek or you're not AJ Brown or you're not Chase or you're not Justin Jefferson, you're not any good.

No. For that system and for what they need, they weren't good. They were great. Welker was great. I mean, go back and look at Welker's numbers when he got there. He was getting 122, 125 catches. Yeah, a lot. Go back and look at Edelman. Go back and look at Amendola.

Amendola, yeah. Those guys were really, really good given what they were asked to do. They were not outside the number guys. They were, everything they did was in the middle of the field. Right. And you got to take, go ahead.

That's basically, when you think about the makeup of the New England offense during that Tom Brady era, era if you think about it they wanted a few teams in nfl where everything was run from the inside out yes you think think about that everything was run from the inside out so your number ones is your number one your reed star from here as opposed to other teams where you got dominant wide receivers on the outside and you restart from one and your process from there on out but when when it came to them you know your amandolas your west welkers your aaron hernandez you had your gronks where everything went from the inside out as opposed

to how other teams operated but go ahead and finish finish your uh yeah and so you're absolutely right and what they would do is that then they catch you sneaking in like, oh, I'm going to jump this inside route. And now they throw the ball to the outside. Because think about it, when they had Randy, they didn't win the Super Bowl when they had Randy.

Hey, they went undefeated until what, that last game? Last game against the Giants in the Super Bowl. Yeah. And so, that's the thing

is that just because a guy isn't first team all pro and he's not a perennial Pro Bowl player, that doesn't mean So that's the thing is that just because a guy isn't first-team all-pro and he's not a perennial Pro Bowl player, that doesn't mean that he's not good. We've got to stop this notion where he ain't Tyreek. Who else? Yeah, nobody.

And you have to understand, remember, it was all fine and good when Randy was catching passes. The moment Randy started complaining, what happened, Ocho? remember it was all fine and good when randy was catching passes the moment randy started complaining what happened ocho you got to go that's why you have to understand what you man jj and chase and all those guys man they're not finna go no three four games and catch two three passes at all so coach belichick understands he, look, everybody, everybody ain't built for the cold, Locho. What I mean by that, everybody's not built to play just because you're a football player and you're a great one. That doesn't mean you're built to play in New England. Everybody can't play in New England.

And unless you've been there or talk to people like I have that have been there, right. Then you can, then you can properly assess and understand that it's, it's more than just talent. Right. To play in that system.

Yeah. But, uh, congratulations to the Raiders. The Raiders played, the Raiders did what they needed to do. I'm happy for the Raiders because I really want, uh,

AP to get that job. I think he deserves it. What you mean? Think you want AP to get that job I think he deserves it what you mean you want him to get it I mean it's a no brainer it's a no brainer what is management going to do Ocho we saw the same thing in Carolina

with Steve Wilkes when he took over for Matt Rule had him playing extremely well they won a bunch of ball games once Matt Rule left and the team well. They won a bunch of ballgames once Matt Rule left. And the team, the players wanted him. What did he do? Now, was it Matt Rule? No, who got fired that he came in for?

Steve Wiltz. And they ended up hiring Matt Rule. Who got fired? Was it Matt Rule? Matt Rule got fired and Steve Wiltz filled in. Okay, yes. And the team played well and the players voted him. This is different.

The players need to voice their opinion. I'm sure they can. I'm sure they can. Listen, look what Pierce has done since McDaniels has been fired. They're four and three. They're four and three. It's the first time the Raiders winning KC since week five in 2020. So if you have your players responding to a certain coach

and playing at a high level without a consistent quarterback, a franchise-changing quarterback, why wouldn't you bring them back? You got a player's coach, a player that knows the game, that played the game. It only makes sense. Who are you going to hire? Who are you going to go

get that can do a better job than what Antonio Pearson is doing with a team that doesn't have an elite quarterback at the helm? Remember, you remember when they went and gave John Gruden $100 million for 10 years? You remember when they just gave Josh McDaniel all that money? Yeah. Okay.

The Raiders are about to splash. They always want a name. They probably had more Heisman Trophy winners on their roster. That's what Al. Al loved Heisman Trophy winners. He loved big names. He loved big-name coaches. Right.

You don't give a 10-year deal, Ocho? We've never heard of that. No player has ever had a 10-year deal. No coach has ever had a 10-year deal. He gave a guy 10 years. He just gave Joshua McDaniel like seven years. So unless they're still going to arbitration trying to sort this thing out with John Gruden. Right.

But you might have to pay John Gruden $60 million. You got at least $60 million tied up in Joshua McDaniel. Right. Damn. He like names. He thinks that wins. Right. Damn. He like names. He thinks that wins. Nah. Doesn't.

But the Patriot way, ain't no Patriot way. The Patriot way was Tom Brady. The Patriot way only works in New England. Look at all the coaches that's from Belichick Tree. And it's a lot of them. Yeah.

Tell me the one that's won outside of New England. Charlie Wise, Romeo Cornell, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniels had two jobs. Yeah. And got fired halfway through the second year in both of them. Yeah. One for cheating and one because he couldn't coach.

In Denver? Yes. He tried to do what they was doing in New England. Yeah, that ain't gonna work. No, Mr. Bones, nah, nah. You're not finna tarnish my reputation. That ain't finna happen. Right. That's crazy.

Alan Shepard donated $50 and he wanted to ask, what's up 85? Speaking of defenses, did you see the Raiders pillage? Need a quarterback, some work on the O-line, but that defense has been a problem since they dropped the Patriot way. Yeah! The Patriot way doesn't work.

He doesn't have... See, here's the thing also. Coach Belichick has been able to get by because you know, Ojo, once you win, it's kind of like if I own a business that I'm, you know, the business is doing you know sometime the executives talk to to the workers a certain type of way right and then you take it

like well we are getting nice paychecks and we are the top top company right josh mcdaniels thought he could go to denver probably thought he could take that same thing to Oakland, talk to people, demean players, talk down to his coaches, give people his butt to kids, and think, no, that ain't going to work, bro. Nobody going to want to play for you. Definitely not. And it definitely ain't going to work if you don't have the quarterback in place. No.

That could pick up the slack for the areas that are weak. You could have had a lot of stuff and you got a great quarterback tom was different man where we're 43 we have 43 000 in the chat oh joe 43 43 000 people i love you let's get a 50. call somebody call a family member call two family members of the friend we try to get a little tell him tell him getting that thing real, people, I see some of y'all complaining about these ads. Bro, how you think we make money?

Wait, what are they complaining about? Somebody, we putting ads in the chat. How you think we make money? Let me ask you a question. Watch the ad. Hold on, Ocho, Ocho. How you think these networks make money? They don't have, you don't have nonstop football.

You don't say nothing when they score a touchdown or when they get an interception and they cut to a commercial. Them commercials pay the bills. Now you got two poor hustlers on Canocho trying to make an honest hustle and y'all put the ads up. How the hell are we supposed to make money?

I'm just trying to catch up on child support, man. That's all. Well, I done got off child support, but I need a little money. Guys, I'm sorry that we have to put ads in here, but that's the only way. You know, it takes, you know, Ocho got a staff, I

got a staff, the volume who I co-partnered with, they got staff that have to cut this stuff up, that's doing this stuff with YouTube. Come on, guys. Cut us some slack. Stall us out. Work with us now. Yeah, work with us. Come on, guys. Cut us some slack. Stall us out. Work with us now. Yeah, work with us. See? You can

always buy that YouTube premium. They don't have no ads on YouTube premium. Hey, how much YouTube premium cost you think? Don't start me to lie. Hell, I don't even know how much YouTube cost, let alone the premium. I know premium gas is higher than regular gas the high test gas

yeah before you finish you talk about gas I'm lost what kind of car you drive I got an EV from BMW M70 so premium is like 98 yeah premium is

back in the South, we call it the high test gas, that white gas. You know, I think it's 23 octane. It's 93 octane, right? 93 octane. So, you know, you might have gas, let's just say you get gas

that's 450, 479, 499. It's that high octane. Now, out here in California, I think it's $6 a gallon. $6 a gallon for who? if you drive a premium car that requires premium landing your car

that's why I got me an EV my money jump on it and you wonder why I've been driving a smart car since 2006 I go fill up right now $14 55 miles a gallon park anywhere 55 miles a a gallon. Park anywhere. 55 miles at a gallon?

I mean, it's going to take you two days to get somewhere. Nah, what you mean? My odometer speed, I hit about, I hit about 105. Man, you ain't hit no 105 of that. Yeah. Man, that Fred Flintstone car. Hey, don't talk about my car like that. Don't do that.

That's disrespectful. I ain't say nobody's a BMW That EV though What EV stand for? Electric vehicle My bad I guess I should have said electric vehicle But I thought I thought everybody knew what it was Okay

Man, you know I ain't into cars, man I got my little smart car What I got, Ocho I got an EV I don't know what EV is I never heard of that You should have said I have a BMW But it's electric Okay said I have a BMW, but it's electric.

Okay, I don't know what EV means. I don't know what EV means. Yeah, no, listen. That's what it means. It means I have a BMW and it's an electric vehicle. I don't know. My bad. I thought you knew.

My bad. I'm sorry. I'm not in the cause. I apologize. I know what it is now. YouTube premium is $15.99 a month. Man, come on, Chad. That's a lot.

Bro, all y'all got to do, can y'all watch like 10, 15 seconds of the ad? Come on. Hold on. You know what we should do? Let's make a commercial where it's a commercial for Nightcap and we are the ad.

Can they do that or no? I mean, I kind of did that. Like, in the lead- lead in leading up to it, I had a read for a draft Kings. Who's one of the big sponsors. Okay. I think normally as, as we move forward, we're going to, I'm going to, we're going to have,

I mean, if you want to do some reads, you can, but yeah, I know how to, I know how to read too. I know how to read off the problem. Yeah. Oh yeah. Real good. I'm real the prompt yeah oh yeah real good I'm real good I'm real good okay I'm real good but uh yeah

but that's uh uh the chat calling you Fred Flintstone but YouTube premium is $15.99 a month I don't know how much regular YouTube is I don't really know anything about that but that it's free

it's free but that's the price that you i mean i mean guys all the years that y'all been watching sporting events name the time that the game goes 12 minute quarters 12 minutes and it goes non-stop don't take no time out and they don't show you no they just keep it on the game in football Any change of possession for the most part They cut the commercial They got to They got to pay them bills

You got to pay them bills every time I got to pay Ash I got to pay Jordan I got to pay Ocho I got to pay I mean damn Y'all want me to pay the money out of my pocket huh Hey

But speaking of paying I'm finna act a fool on my birthday. When's your birthday? My birthday is January 9th. And I'm going to do something a little different that I've never done before. And I'm just thanking you ahead of time because what you have been able to bestow upon me and allow my cup to runneth over, I'm going to go ahead and bless myself and act a fool on my birthday. You going to buy yourself something or you just going to have a party?

No, I'm going to buy myself something. I'm going to act a fool. What you going to get? I can't tell you. I can't tell you, but I'm going to cut up. Because you've been a blessing to me and I thank you, so I'm going to go outside my box for a little bit ain't nothing wrong with that yeah hey bro um

this has been a blessing for both of us uh i couldn't have done it without you um it works it works because of who you are it works because of who i am yeah we're different in a lot of ways but in a lot of ways that we're similar so So I appreciate you being a part of this and I appreciate the fans for embracing us and giving us the opportunity to share some of the stories and some of our analysis on three nights a week. The Giants, the Eagles beat the Giants 33-25. Tommy DeVito was replaced by Tyrod Taylor in the third quarter. Giants entered the half trailing 20-3.

And Tyrod nearly brought the Giants all the way back. After tossing 133 yards at a touchdown, the Eagles intercepted his final pass attempt into the end zone, and the Eagles were able to hang on to a victory. I like Tyrod. I mean, Tyron was a starting quarterback. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. They lost the hardball game

in the playoffs, too. I think it was a 9-6 ballgame or a 10-6 ballgame to Jacksonville the year Jacksonville almost beat New England in New England. So he's always been a very good backup. He was a backup to Joe Flacco in Baltimore the year they won the Super Bowl

in 2012, if I'm not mistaken. So, I've always had a lot of respect and admiration for Tyrod, and he's got bad luck because he was pegged to be the starting quarterback for the Chargers. Yeah. He had a rib injury. He gets

an injection, and they punctured his lungs. Lungs. Doctor. He should. You can't sue for that, huh? Hell gets an injection, and they punctured his lungs. Lungs. Doctor? He should. Tier 3. You can't sue for that, huh? No? Hell yeah, you can. That's malpractice.

Hell yeah. He probably did. Hell yeah, you can't sue. Did you say? You think he did? Hell yeah. Yes. Damn.

Cost him a starting job? That's crazy. And it potentially cost him because he was a free agent. So it potentially cost him greater earnings right right that's great we won't get it we won't get into that yeah oh uh okay okay you kind of redeem yourself i remember you did say all that about lamar damn i hate to admit it thank you sir thank you you're one of the ones that will admit it all the other ones they won't admit it even though they know i said it because they got a narrative going.

And so we want to keep the narrative that Shannon hates Lamar. When all y'all seen me stand up, y'all remember when Colin Kaepernick? Hmm? Y'all remember when George Floyd? Hmm? Hmm.

When everybody else, when everybody else was shying away from it how Skip and FS1 let me stand on that platform and talk about it y'all forgot about that huh but now all of a sudden after I spoke so outgoing

about it now all of a sudden I'm against my own people really really so that's that's what y'all want to get going wow of all the things y'all can say I mean I'm sure there are some things out there that you can say. Oh, man, he talk. I don't he make me sick. He think he knows everything. I told you I don't know everything. I know a little bit about everything.

That's different. I like that. But you know what it is, though? I'm gonna be OK, though. Damn. He asked another question. Dan did. Actually, unbelievable. We're at this point, people make things up. Unk is always one who says Purdy is an elite. Yeah, I said that to D.O.

D.O. tried it. Oh, he's elite. Has a quarterback. And this is what he said. Has a quarterback ever won the MVP not being elite? I said, yeah, Rich Gannon won the MVP. Was he elite? No. There's another, Rich Gannon won the MVP. Was he elite? No. There's another one. Matt Ryan won the MVP. Was he elite?

Brian Syke won the MVP for the Bengals, the Cardiac Kids. No. Ken Anderson. No. So just because you win the MVP, that doesn't make you elite. We need to see a body of work. It's a body of work that makes you elite. So need to see a body of work. It's a body of work that

makes you elite. So this notion we see a lot of guys get great receivers, have one great year or running back or DB and then what? So no, one season doesn't make you elite. I'm a firm

believer in that. I'm going to stand on that. So I'm not saying Brock Purdy isn't a good player. I didn't even say that he couldn't become elite. I'm a firm believer in that. I'm going to stand on that. I'm not saying Brock Purdy isn't a good player. I didn't even say that he couldn't become elite. I'm saying as I'm giving you my analysis of it, he's not elite. The body of work is what comes into play when we talk about elite players

regardless of position. I'm going to go for the onus of talking about receivers. Receivers are elite. You can do it your first year, but can you do it when they know it's coming? Can you do it year two? Can you do it the third year?

Can you do it when they game planning to stop you and you still get it going? Yeah. Like that's when you know you elite. Yes. Yes. When the deep coordinator get up there and they break it down and they circle. Now we got to watch 85 now.

Right, right. He's great in transition. He can get in and out of breaks. He's tremendous run after the catch. Now, he ain't going to block that much, man. So, you know, I try to rough him up in the blocking game, in the running game, and try to push him into the pile. But, you know, when you're explaining a receiver, you explain it.

Okay, he'll go over the middle. He's tough. He's wiry. He's not the most physically gifted guy, but he's tough in traffic. He's tremendous transitioning. Getting in and out of break is what his specialty is. He has great hands, and he's tremendous run after the catch. Yeah, he got a little scoot in him now.

He got a little scoot in him. So, I mean, that's how we look at it. Same thing, we look at a DB. Okay, he got a little scoot in him now. He got a little scoot in him. So that's, I mean, that's how we look at it. Same thing, we look at a DB. Okay, he's very handsy. We can get, I mean, you know, hey, he's strong. He's long arm. Yeah. He's going to try to ride you.

So you're going to have to, you know, we're going to start, we're going to throw some balls at him. We're going to double move him because he will bite. He aggressive. Yeah. And if somebody's like, oh, he wants to sit on routes. Okay. We're going to, hey, this is not about, we don't care if we catch it.

We just want to know we will throw this over your head. Yeah. Yeah. We just want to plant that seed. Right in his mind. Make you think twice about sitting next time. Yeah. Yeah.

TJ the Stunner said, man, I got my uncle that LaPortia from Christmas. He took one sip and now he's stepping in in the name of love all day. Yep. I don't think. But OK. Hey, TJ, I really appreciate it, man. Thank you for the support. Miss Mr. Sharp said, oh, Joe, my incredible wife got me 85 cigar gift cards. Should I get the boy Vveda or the El Patron to go with my La Portia Cognac for New Year's yeah get that Boveda get that Boveda man it represents

obviously the good life for a reason when you smoke it you're going to enjoy it it's very smooth if you not an experienced cigar smoker obviously it's for the novice smooth not too spicy you mean novice novice I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry you got you got me on my pronunciation you've been drinking you've been drinking tonight

you on the porch yeah yeah i just my little red bull real quick i'm trying to stay up i got i gotta fight it i gotta fight at 5 a.m so i'm trying to make sure i stay up okay it's not too spicy it's not too peppery it's very smooth if you if you're not a connoisseur of cigars. So you're going to enjoy it. Enjoy it. Ben said, will you give Baker any praise? 3,500 plus yards, 26 touchdowns, 80 interceptions, 96.2 QBR. Baker Mayfield has played really well.

I think Baker needs to be the starting quarterback moving forward for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Long-term deal. He has a great connection. Now, I don't know what's going to happen with Mike Evans. Mike Evans was very frustrated because he wanted a long-term deal at the beginning of the season. It didn't get worked out. You know how they play games now.

Mike Evans might be having the best career of his best season of his career. And he couldn't pick the better time to have it. But to think, oh, Joe, you know how it gets. You start to get to be 30. They think you can't play no more they're gonna play with you every time they're gonna play with you every time listen that's the nature of the business not only are they gonna play with you when you hit 30 you know what they also do they also find a way to work you out the system the opportunities for some reason all of a sudden you hit 30 the opportunity starts to decrease well what the hell is going on I was the focal point of the offense.

Now, if you look across the league for years of all the great receivers that have never gotten hurt, just notice how the opportunities decrease. And the first thing they come and say to you at the end of the season, well, you know your production is starting not to look the same. It seemed like you lost a step. Yeah, I know them targets, too. I know them targets did come my way like it was it was exactly exactly and they do it every time but this is what they do to yocho uh-huh they said uh you know uh you're kind of getting a little older and uh you're not making the plays you once did uh we were thinking about reducing

your salary i said oh but y'all want to reduce my salary, but y'all want me to make the plays like I did when y'all were playing me a lot of money. Now, you're going to make it go make sense, Ocho. So you're going to cut my pay, but I need you to make them same plays. Same plays. Oh, okay. Listen, hey, boy, the business is a dirty game now.

It's a dirty game, and they love to play it, and they play it very well. And how you think, hey, listen, if you don't understand the game, they'll have you thinking there's something wrong with you. Yes. Yeah.

I had a homeboy. He told, hey, they wouldn't give him a contract extension. He said, for what y'all paying me, I'm going to get all, that's the kind of work I'm going to give you.

Oh. They ended up trading it. They traded him? Yeah, they got to. He said, y'all pay me $500,000. I make $500,000 worth of plays. I don't give y'all no million dollars worth of plays when y'all give me half a million. Shannon, the thing that makes Raven fans upset

is the fact that when Lamar plays great, what does analyst say me? What makes you upset with me? I'm me. I'm Shannon Sharp. There are probably a lot of other analysts that analyze. But when you say other analysts, talk to them. I ain't got no problem.

If I said something, if I misspoke, I'll own up to that. Y'all know me by now. When I'm wrong, I ain't got no problem. I've never been too big. I've never been too prideful. I've never been too great to say've never been too prideful. I've never been too great to say, I'm sorry, I was wrong. But y'all got to miss me with other analysts. What did I say? If it's something that I said that I misspoke, I was wrong about, okay, I can live with that.

Especially when you said the Ravens aren't getting their money's worth. You thought they was getting their money. Listen, when we ask a question, you do realize it's on a game to game basis. So you think, so you think Purdy based on tonight, you think Purdy should get a $40 million contract? Cause if you just, if you just looking at it like that,

okay, fine. We take it game to game. Right. Lamar is playing. They won nine out of the ten. Of their first six games, how many did they win out of their first six? I mean, that's the thing that you have to look at, Ocho, is that when Lamar didn't play well against the Steelers,

when he didn't play well against the Steelers, they lost the game. He had a fumble. He threw a pick in the end zone. I said Lamar threw a pick in the end zone. He fumbled the ball. They had a lead. Oh, why you didn't say that about Mahomes? Because Mahomes didn't do that.

You see, it's always like when you critique one player, well, what about that player? Okay? It's my time to critique. Because you do realize, like, Ocho and I, like, when we come on here, we could talk about whatever we want to. But when I go on ESPN,

I'll talk about what we talk about. That's not my show. This is our show. This is Uncle Nocho's show. So we get to talk about it. But if I talk about it and I don't say what you want me to say or you don't like what I say,

then I'm a hater. Well, I'm sure at some point in time that people thought I hated on Peyton. They thought I hated on Rodgers. They thought I hated on Rogers. They thought I hated on Brady. They don't thought I hated on everybody. Wait, did you say anything bad about me when I played? I'm sure I did.

I can't remember. Hey, chat, y'all look at chat. Y'all look that up, chat. Let me know if Unc said something so we can address that. Yeah, I probably said something about them penalties you was getting for a celebration. Oh, them was worth it. Them was worth it. Ojo, you got to realize

man, you been retired. You been retired a decade, bro. I ain't been retired. What you talking about? No, I haven't. When was your last game? 2014. Somebody tell him that's a decade. 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23.

I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Listen, I've been retired, what? Maybe 12, 13 years? The last time you played was 2012, which is 12 years. It was? Yes. For was? Yes.

For real? Yeah. It didn't feel like I just played like two weeks ago. I don't know what it feel like. I'm just telling you what it is.

I'm just saying how I feel. It feel like I just played. It feel like I'm not too far removed from the game. Yeah, you are. You are far removed.

It don't feel like it, though. I can still play, though. Highlight Creation 1 said, does Tua have a chance to win for the MVP if he beats Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens on the road next week and get the number one seed? That's a good question. That's a great question.

Especially with the way Lamar looked against the 49ers. What happened if Tua and that offense comes in and does what the 49ers couldn't do offensively? Well, you said that's a great question. Well, you told me there ain't no way Lamar Jackson is going to look like Brock Purdy did tonight, so that's a moot point. Yeah, you're right. I mean, that's why

I didn't say Lamar Jackson to have a game like that. That's why I said if the offense can do what Brock Purdy didn't do against the Ravens. Well, first of all, they're not going to get that opportunity without those turnovers. Yeah, you're right. So you have the fact that that is also.

But the Raiders get the win today on the road. The Ravens get the win on the road. The Eagles were the only home team that won on Christmas Day. All the other home teams tasted defeat. Patrick Woolley said, Uncle Nocho, Merry Christmas. A day one. Thank you, Patrick.

Niners are 1-3 against the AFC North this year. What's in the water in that division since y'all both played there? And what's disrespectful with the title game manager? Because people, let me take the first question let me take the last part first because when people say game manager it's almost like they're saying they're winning in spite of you that you're not asked to do anything you just manage or not do much it's kind of like you're a game manager. It's almost like a manager. You ain't pitching.

You ain't hitting. You ain't catching the ball. So what are you actually doing? So they're saying to the quarterback, you're doing, you're limited in what you're asked to do. And so, I'm sure the quarterbacks,

the guys that get called game manager, they view it as disrespectful. You think so? So when they call Alex Smith the game manager when he played with the Chiefs, do you think that was disrespectful for him? They called him that, yes. Look, I called him check down Alex.

Because think about it. Think about it, Ocho. Think about the numbers that they were putting up and they still moved heaven and earth. They traded up 17 spots to get Patrick Mahomes. Right. Right. Because Andy believed this offense could go to another level if they had a

guy with a stronger arm and that was willing to take risk. And we see, like I said, Travis Kelsey was getting a thousand yards a season. Tyreek was Tyreek. Now Tyreek later blossomed and became a true wide receiver and not a gadget guy because he could run the

entire route tree. So that's the difference and it's like, so they view it as, it's kind of like a wide receiver. What do they call, most white guys, they call possession. Bro, that's a good one. They call possession. Bro.

That's a good one. They call them a possession receiver. Whoa, whoa. Well, Steve Larson was a possession receiver and he retired with the most catches in the most yards at the time in NFL history. So, but you said, I don't know. It's not, it's nothing in the water. It's nothing in the water. It's nothing in the water. The AFC North is a physical team.

Very. You look at the turnovers. Brock Purdy had three. Didn't he have like two or three against Cleveland? He had a couple, if I'm not mistaken, he had a couple against Cincinnati. Turned the ball over. I don't care. I don't care how great you are because I've said it before.

When you turn the ball, if you're a better football team, if you're here and Team B is here, you turn the ball over, whether you go down or you raise them up, you bring them on your level, Ocho. So now,

and the more you turn it over, the more you go and look at the separation. You see where that goes? And that's what happened. And now you look, see, when you played Cleveland, you know, you missed a field goal that would, I think, won the game or even tied the game.

You turn the ball over against the Ravens, a team that's basically on your level, you look like you look tonight. They run away with the game. That's the difference. Go ahead. What's your takeaway? What do you think happened to the AFC North? Why are they 1-3 against the AFC North? And why do quarterbacks view game manager as disrespectful?

Well, I think just like you said, when you are game manager at the quarterback position, I heard Cam actually say that too. It is they don't ask much of you. They don't ask you to do much. They ask you to facilitate the ball, to take what you see. They ask you not to

take the chances that most would take, where they allow you, depending on your skill set and your talent level and your arm talent, then those are players that they ask to take those chances. I think those that are game managers are not minimized, but their skill set is not up to par as opposed to those who have the arm talent to do more offensively.

I don't really see it as a disrespectful thing because if you're a game manager you're just not losing the game or making the mistakes that other quarterbacks make you always give your team a chance how is that a bad thing? don't you F the game up because we're not going to put you in a situation

where we allow you to take risks so don't you take risks on your own we're going to run the football. We're going to make it real easy for you. Okay? We're going to call this coverage. We're going to call this play. We think it's going to be this coverage. Go there with the football. Or like Patrick Mahomes, you're like, okay,

Pat, go do what you do. Okay, Brady, go do what you do. Okay, Peyton. Well, you know Peyton calling his own game anyway. So guys like that, Joe Burrow, guys like that, that you're like, okay. Right. But there are times that you need to manage the game. Even the greats have been game managers at one point in time or another.

But it's knowing when to do it. It's knowing when to do it. Oh, this is the type of game. Oh, I see what type of game this is going to be. This is a game that could possibly be 14, 13, 13, 10. I can't take the unnecessary risk. I can't put our defense in harm's way. It's knowing.

So I agree with you. Faith donated $200. How Ocho and Shannon, it ran. Damn. By 200? She says by 20, 20, by 2053, the net worth of African-Americans is predicted to be, is dictated to be zero. Damn. There's

angst in the chat over donation like subs and shares are just as crucial. Nightcap accepts all support. So don't count my coins and count your blessings. Let's win together. Shout out Ash. Man, by 2053, I think, hold on.

I think I saw somewhere, you can look this up, Ash, that I saw the average black net worth is $17,000 while the average white net worth is $171,000. Hmm. You think that's true? And when they do these statistics, how many people do they... How do they even do these statistics anyway?

I always thought about that. Where does the theory come from in general? Sometimes they're surveys. Sometimes they're questionnaires. They're brochures. They get the census report. Hey, think about this. When it comes to surveys and brochures

and all this stuff, when's the last time somebody come up to you with a survey and you actually sat there and filled it out? I don't fill it out, Ocho. Exactly. You know the IRS know how much you make, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but you really think it comes from the IRS?

Hey, look here. I don't trust nobody. All right,. All right. You're right. Average black household, 44,900. Average white, 285. Yeah.

Huh? Is that really the difference? Asian is 536. So you got black at 44,900, white 236, is 536. So you got black at 449, white 236, Asian 535. I wonder why that is. Because a lot of times those two other demographics, they come up with, they come have ideas

and create things that make money. Black people spend money. Oh. Somebody created that Louis Vuitton that the black person buys but he ain't got no money to put in it he or she doesn't have money to put in it you see the difference come on now come on that it that it they to each his own yeah that's a whole that's a whole that's a whole another discussion that's a whole other discussion. Yeah. Hispanic is 61.

So we're the lowest. 44.9, 61 for Hispanic. 242, which is a 285 for white, 535 for Asian. I mean, well, I'm not going to say that because obviously me being the financial dude that I am. We on social media. Who on social media flashing the big old files of money? Who got the money held up to their ears?

The rappers? Who pretending they getting on who pretending they getting on the jets I ain't tell you I don't tell anybody how to spend their money you earn it you do with it as you choose cause

have I flown private jet yes I ain't got no money O. I ain't got no money. Oh, Joe, I ain't got nobody, but I'm gonna work my ass. I'm gonna get it. If it's out there,

I saw, listen, once I saw the, uh, uh, the U S government print money during the pandemic. Okay. So y'all got a surplus of it because if you don't have enough,

guess what? You'll print some more. Yeah. It Yeah, it's out there. Let me find my niche. Let me find something that I can do, that I can make money from. Legally. It's enough for everybody.

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Okinoto, Merry Christmas, love the show. I'm curious to know which training camp was the most challenging to adjust to, college or the NFL? Man, the NFL is that. They just put so much on your plate. It's just like, and you got to get it. Because once we go install, ain't no A. You go install Monday, install Tuesday, install Wednesday, install Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, before you go back to Monday.

So if you don't get Monday, we on the Tuesday. If you didn't get Tuesday, now you behind on Monday and Tuesday, we on the Wednesday. So it's more of a mental game. In college, the three-hour practices, you young too. You young. You run all day. I don't know what the college, I mean, think about it, Ocho.

I'm getting a joint. I went to college damn near 40 years ago, but the playbook wasn't as complex and complicated like it is now. I'm sure some of these college playbooks is off the charts, but

we was out there practicing, doing training camp in college. We was out there probably about six hours a day. Thud. Well, there ain't no probably about six hours a day. Thud. Well, there ain't no thud. We was tackling. We was tackling. And even in the NFL, early on, I mean, we tackled.

We put people on the ground. It wasn't no, oh, just wrap him up. Uh-uh, put his ass on the dirt. And so, I think that for me, Ocho, the NFL is more of a mental. Because, man man they own you mistakes cause people

jobs especially during training camp people get cut they cutting you look if I'm on scholarship they got to keep me for at least one year they ain't how I work in the NFL.

They don't have to keep you. And I had a coach used to say that. This ain't college, son. We don't have to keep you. Ooh. You don't? No. No, we don't.

So you understand very early on that the NFL is an absolute business. And they're going to keep the players that they think can help them win or in the future. Like, you know what? With a little season, I think this kid could be good. He going to be all right. I believe that's why they kept me. Yeah, I played well so I could play all the special teams.

I was a very good blocker because I was a big wide receiver. But, you know, Dan, I mean, Dan Reeves, Coach Reeves rested so he told me, he said, son, you're too big, too fast, too strong not to make a living in the NFL. So, kept me around.

Hey, I'm playing Ocho, we playing some wide receiver. Hey, I'm Tim Brown. Hey, I want to Ocho, we playing some wide receiver Hey, I'm Tim Brown I'm, I'm, I'm, hey I want to go with the ball going Who else, hey Were you scouting, scouting Ocho, you know, hey, Ocho, you know what They hold that thing up and say, hey

But they'll hold the sheet up Hey, they hold it right, oh Ocho, you see that right there That's you Hey, let me get that jersey Let me get that jersey You don't know what to do Let me get that jersey

Let me get that jersey Hey, taking all Taking what to do. Let me get that jersey. Let me get that jersey. Taking all the scouting reps. Tight end? Hey, I'm going to tight end. If they got a tight end like a Jaden Novacek, Marvin Cook used to play for the New England Patriots. But if they had a tight end, I'm cooking.

I'm cooking. And Wade, the defensive coordinator, said don't worry about it. They tight end can't move like that. He won't be open like that. I'm cooking. Right. I'm cooking. So Wade, he blow the whistle. He said, Dan, put his ass in the game and see if they can cover him because we can't. Right. Right. Next week, they move in the tight end. I'm in the game. Ain't look back. Ain't look back, Ocho. But I was cutting. I was cooking. I was cooking that Ocho and talking to him.

Can't check me. Can't check me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, they take a cheap shot. I said, oh, Ocho, I'm talking.

I'm talking, Ocho. I'm in the game. Oh, I'm talking. Oh, what? Spiking the ball. Putting the ball in the wood man hey man man I know Mike would but then you know Dan didn't

really care he's like okay okay that's that's enough I said knock I'll be cold look at talking to me yeah I remembered everyone because oh they would count like blocking because Ocho at that point in time I'm probably like 215 I done lost 12 pounds because I was like

227 so now I'm 215 playing tight end in the NFL feeling good but Ocho man they throwing me like a rag dog I said okay guess what happened come one on one I said now who want some of this smoke who want this now

right right right getting a batter there touchdown hold the ball up I got the ball back in they face they reach it for it I was a stone cold fool with it Michael 92116 says harder task

in your prime. Stopping Ronaldo Messi from scoring a penalty kick, stopping MJ from scoring a basket, tackling Barry Sanders, or getting a hit off Randy Johnson. First of all... That's a good list of difficult feats to do. Name the person that you ever saw tackle Barry 101.

Nobody? That was going to be my answer anyway. That was going to be my answer anyway. Yeah, you're not stopping nobody. In the open field? You got no chance. At all. You couldn't tackle the man on the phone booth.

How the hell would you? In the middle of the field, you think? I ain't never seen nobody come to balance like that and get up and get up out of there get a hit off Randy Johnson 95 mile an hour slider that's not happening either you're not tackling

Barry in the open field stopping the MJ from scoring a bucket well he might miss the bucket he might miss it but O might I mean he might miss it but Ocho Randy Johnson six foot ten and a half now he lefty

so that ball you ain't hitting that how many people you got to think about it professional hitters ain't hitting it don't even hit that and first of all that ball by the time you swing the bat the catcher throwing it back to the Ain't hitting it. Don't even hit that. And first of all, that ball go...

By the time you swing the bat, the catcher throwing it back to the pitcher. To the pitcher. Because all you hear, pop, you swing. Bro, this in the glove. Honestly, I probably say... I probably... That's tough.

I've talked to a lot of guys that play broke I've talked to Prime, I've talked to Bo, Brian Jordan they say the hardest thing to do now Brian Jordan played safety in a baseball oh yeah most definitely do you know the percentage

for sluggers or Hall of Famers that have made it into the into the Baseball Hall of Fame how, the percentage for sluggers or Hall of Famers that have made it into the into the Baseball Hall of Fame, how low the percentage is. Oh, Joe, you know how hard it is? You know how hard it is to hit the baseball? Just imagine if you caught three out of 10 passes that they threw to you, they throw your ass up out the league. If you made three of the 10 shots, I ain't talking about three threes. I'm talking about regular shots. They get your ass up out the league. If you hit a baseball three out of ten times, you go into the

Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame. There you go. I put it in context for you. Yeah, that's crazy. Because any other sport, three or ten, you're going to be at home on the couch. Yeah. Luca had a 50-piece in the Mavs win. Man, Luca.

Hey, how come I know I don't watch basketball much, but how come it look like he be moving in slow motion and still be cooking people? Because he won't let you speed him up. He kind of like Lambert. His moves are very methodical.

Yeah. It ain't quick like Kyrie. It's quick with intent. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. It ain't quick. Like, you know, Kyrie is like, it's quick with intent. I don't know. It's weird. And his moves, it'd be working.

Do they? He's the second fastest to score 10,000 points since Michael Jordan. I don't know. Something right. The league just better hope he does just what he's doing.

If he ever took training, I'm talking about training serious and got in shape. Right. You don't think he's in shape? Not the way he should be. Okay. I see what you mean. I see what you mean. But here's the thing.

Like you said, look at the success. The manager's dropped a 50 piece. Mm-hmm. When you have that level of success, Ocho, how do you say, this working for me? It's like a man,

like drinking. He drinks before the game. And he's like, man, if you didn't drink, he's like, but I just rushed for 200. Right. I just dropped 45.

Why? I mean, I just dropped 45. Why? I mean, why would I, why would I need to, why would I need to stop? That's, that's the hard thing.

I would, I wasn't like that old Joe. I was willing to try something. I mean, like it might help. I'm gonna try it. Right. If, if it can help me get better legally,

I'm on it. Mr. 504 donated $100. He said, my guts tells me the Ravens will play for the AFC Championship. However, my question is this. Who's the toughest person to block? Ocho, who's your toughest corner to compete against? Man, dude, think about it.

I'm 228. I got to try to block Reggie, Bruce Mill, Michael Strahan. Come on, man. Well, you had your hands full. Man, give me a corner. Give me a safety. Let me whip his ass. I get tired of them flinging me out the way.

I mean, and now they don't even really put the backers on the ball. Every once in a while, you'll see them line to Sam on the ball. Right now, mainly, I'm giving a little football one-on-one. They play what we call an over front. An over front is four down linemen. In, tackle, tackle, in. An under front is what we call where they had they have four down linemen and a linebacker on the ball that's what we call an under front over four down linemen just down

linemen sam will mike off the ball a 43 defense under what we call the 25 front now you go to a 34 defense is what the pittsburgh steelers backers, Salmon Will on the ball, three down linemen, a nose, and two D-ends. And now you got Mike and Plug. So three-four, two linebackers, three down linemen, Mike Plug, under front, four down linemen, linebacker on the ball, over front, four down linemen. And so it was a combination. 3-4 used to be really popular. The Steelers, I've never known the Steelers not to have a 3-4 defense. But there are a lot of under fronts.

Kansas City played under front a lot, and then they moved exclusively to a 43 defense and had DT with his hand in the dirt but good thing I have the block see I look at guys that were in my division because I didn't see Brucey a lot I didn't see straight a lot I think I only played against straight played against him in the Super Bowl. And I think one other time, I think we played him in 98. But Straight was a hell raiser, man.

What? Straight was a hell raiser, man. He was strong, long ass arm. Strong as hell. And man, look here. He set the edge now. And he ain't gonna let you hook him. You ain't gonna reach him now. Yeah, he gonna stay outside.

Yeah, man. He could turn you. Yeah, man. Hey. Prop... he ain't gonna let you hook him you ain't gonna reach him now yeah he gonna stay outside yeah man he could turn you yeah man hey prop good thing they didn't ever think I was gonna be blocking him

when I was over there they always thought it's a pass he sitting light you know they call that he sitting light yeah you right I'm out

I'm out like a scout on a new route yeah hey handle him tackles. The hardest to block. I'll say Reggie. Rest his soul. You know the funny thing?

This is funny. Sometimes, I mean, for me, those that are difficult to block, I didn't even have to block them. You know, all you got to do is just take them down. I'm just saying, all you got to do is just run them off. I ain't got to waste no energy. And I run them clear. I'm talking about clear off. Now they can just turn back.

And I'm like, oh, they made the tackle. You know, I was in shape shape. You know, I run 10, 15 yards just for the hell of it. Just for the hell of it. Just because I'm in shape-shape. You know, I run 10, 15 yards just for the hell of it. Just for the hell of it. Just because I'm in tip-top shape and not have to touch a soul. And if anybody going to make the tackle, it's the safety coming from way, way deep that he going to have to come downhill and make it.

But McCorn is not going to make it. You know, I ain't want to waste no energy sitting there, you know, wrestling with you and trying to show who's been in the weight room. For what? You know what I used to like, Ocho? When I had that safety and I push up and I see that safety come down the alley. And you go crack him because he don't see you coming because his eyes in the backfield. But you can't do that now.

You know you can't do that. No, no, no, no. You can't do that. You can't do that. If anything, you just get in the weight and help put your arms up like this. That's what Armond St. Brown did. That's what he got it. Because he tried to crack.

You know, he pushed up. And then you come down on safety that's looking to fill the alley. He didn't even hit him, Armond. He didn't even hit him. He just thumped him up a little bit. Just thumped him up a little bit. And they still found him.

Yeah, I saw a linebacker. I think against the Colts, he hit a running back. The Colts played the Falcons. Yeah, he hit a running back on the sideline and they threw an unnecessary roughness on him. So he's running, the guy, and he's going like this and he came and he hit it.

Unnecessary roughness as they went helmet to helmet. Well, how the hell am I going to get it? Yeah, that's what the game has come to. That's what the game has come to, so you're going to have to find a way to adapt. And like I said before, with the way to adapt, people are going to start changing up the way they tackle,

and they're going to mess around and hurt themselves. Or be out of the league, because they're going to be missing a bunch of tackles. Renato Hernandez says, Uncle Nocho, do you guys have any supernatural stories? And, were you on American Dad? Much love.

Happy holidays. Your last question first. Yes, I was on American Dad and I was able to play myself. I was a bounty hunter. Sharpening my spaghetti. I mean,

sharpening my machete. About to eat some spaghetti. No, I don't have any supernatural stories. You, Ocho? What's supernatural? When you say supernatural, give me better context, man. Supernatural like ghost stories or chairs moving or ghosts? Oh, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

I know one thing. I wish my mama and my grandma, you know, proved me wrong that there is an afterlife because ain't nobody gave me a sign. They ain't came back and hollered at me. Don't tell me you love me all the years you're on earth. And then when you transition, I don't even hear from you. show me something. Let me know that there is life after death. So, I'm hoping at some point, you know, you can ask me this a few years from now or a few months from now and you ask me about

that supernatural story again. And I can say, you know what? My mama and my grandma, they came to visit me. I asked for a sign and this was a sign that they showed me. My routine has always been the same. A lot of people say,

well, if you pay attention, you'll see it well I've been waiting you've been waiting for it I've been waiting my grandma passed in 2018 I've been waiting my mama passed in 2021

I'm still waiting on something my routine and what I do day to day has not changed so if there's any sign they said they're busy working for the Lord well I'm working for them too

they said they're busy I'm working for them too. They said they're busy. I'm working for him too. Just give me something. Let me know everything good. Jared says, Shannon Ocho, how do you deal with self-doubt?

I'm in college and I feel like I'm not smart enough, but I also don't want to be filled with regret later in life. I need words of wisdom. You want to take off first, Ocho? I'm going to let you have that one because self-doubt, that comes from within.

And I ain't really nothing, I ain't letting nothing on the outside make me feel crazy on the inside that would have me self-doubting myself. That's why I just said earlier about the opportunities with the business of the NFL, they had you thinking something wrong with you. Same thing.

College will have you question yourself. Relationships and dealing with women sometimes and things don't work out, that also has you question. There are so many different factors in life that will have you question yourself.

You can't do that. Self-doubt. You can't allow anything outside to deter how you feel about yourself. You got to keep going. You got to keep pushing by all means necessary uh ocho i never had self-doubt like could i could i not do something right but when you get relief you're

like but damn i had the second most catches in the nfl for tight end had the second most yards right damn then you go and you know you think you're doing good and you think you're getting in the NFL for a tight end at the second most yards. Right. Damn. Then you go and, you know, you think you're doing good and you think you're getting better in your craft at CBS and they say, well, you know, we want to move in a different direction. And then the same thing happened at Fox and you're like, well, damn. Everybody telling me I'm good. Everybody on the outside is telling me that I'm good and that I'm man.

Like, man, you the best at this, man, you, man, I'm talking about, I ain't just talking about people just talking. I'm talking about NFL players that I've critiqued. I'm talking about NBA players that I've critiqued.

I'm talking about NBA coaches, NFL coaches telling me I'm good. I'm the best at what I do. I mean, if y'all see that, why do you, why, why,

why the networks? But my sister, and I told y'all, my sister is very religious. She said, Shannon, God moved you. They didn't. He did. Because he

wanted you to be somewhere better. She said, now just trust in him. Just trust in him. I did. When I got let go from CBS, I took money out of my own pocket. Did a,

you did a Facebook. It's called miles and off where I would go take two or three games. I would break it down. And I did it every week. It cost me about $13,000 to shoot it, to get it edited, put it up out of my own pocket. I ain't got no money coming in, Ocho.

But I'm just putting it out there, let people know, hey, man, you know, they leave comments, good. I like this commentary, blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on. Then I get an opportunity to go on first take. Did that, took off. Then with what transpired over the summer,

like, man, I just need an opportunity. Stephen had already put the bug in my ear. He's like, look, he said, I don't do the hiring over here, but I've already told my bosses that I want you, big boy. Yeah. So now, I'm like, there ain't no way. Me?

Me? Talk to Dave Roberts. Just so happens, I'm going to be in Atlanta. He's getting married. He's going to be in Atlanta. At the St. Regis saint regis we gonna have breakfast we done done our research we done our homework we know we getting what you want to do i said man i want to work that's what i do i work that's my purpose i work

like okay so by this time i'm trying to find an agency I'm interviewing all the agencies because I want someone to represent me I want to take my career I want to see it now I really want to see how far I can go I want to push the envelope I want to see what I can do got that resolved called my sister I said

I think I'm on she said just give God the glory every time she called me I talked to her every day she said Shannon you say your prayers you're thanking for waking you up this morning you know it's going to be alright right I said yeah it's going to be okay

she said nah she said you don't sound like you think it's going to be okay he moved it now he said watch it watch it work Watch it work. Oh, Joe. I'm not just saying this because I'm on ESPN. My mind is so at ease.

My mind is so at ease. So at ease. I wake up every day like, man. And when I look, when I went on, up every day like, man. And when I look, when I was like, okay, I got to find a new job. I got the podcast. I'm going to do that. CJ

has been by my side. He's been producing Club Shea Shea. CJ, what you going to say? I'll go. But Ash, so I like, because I already told her once she started working with me at Fox I said you know

if I ever get my own show you know I'm going to take you she's like okay I'll go I mean no hands or tabs like hold on she's like I'll go

I'm like okay I'm for real she's like okay so transpired this summer I don't know what I'm going to do I hit up I said what you doing she's like nothing blah blah blah transpired this summer. I don't know what I'm going to do.

I hit up. I said, what you doing? She's like, nothing, blah, blah, blah. I say, what you want to do? You want to come with me? She's like, yeah, you know where you're going? I say, no. She's like, okay.

I said, okay. Now, she had no idea what I was going to do because at this point in time ESPN hadn't even happened so even if I don't do ESPN I'm going to have to pay her out of my pocket so she put in her you know she's going to leave hey what's your account number

I wired the money to her account because I want her to know look I said this is what I want her to know, look, I said this is what I'm going to do. And even if it doesn't happen, you know monthly you're going to get money. And Nightcap is, she does a lot of

the legwork. I mean, we got the easy part, Ocho, because talking is what we do. Analyzing the game is what we do. But the format and all the questions and how we're going to, you know, how are we going to formulate this? That's her. That's her.

And so now I look back, I say, you know what? My sister was right. My sister was right. But I've never had doubt. Like, when I played football, Ojo, I was like, I'm him. I know I'm him. I mean, ain't nobody do what I do and have fun doing it. But it's like when everybody else is telling you,

but everybody else is not the bosses at these networks. So although I appreciate the praise and the adulation that you're giving me and you're saying I'm doing a good job, I need some jokers that got these suits and ties on that's doing the hiring and the firing to believe that I'm doing a good job

or I can do a good job. And so, and I think that's what meant, because I don't know how much, and I'm sure they probably look, but I'm on when Stephen A's on. So it's not like he gets an opportunity to see what I'm doing. I'm sure

some of my people have told him about what I'm doing or how I'll go about my business, but he doesn't get a chance to watch, nor do I get a chance to watch him because he's on when I'm on. But, bro, you got to believe, because if you don't believe in you, who else will? You got to. And I mean, it all comes down to the key, the key component, not allowing things on outside to deter you on how you feel. You can't. Oh, Joe, they say your grandma gave you a sign.

It's real. Real, you'll sign. But who said that? Don't worry about it. They say real. I like that. They say real here. That's a good one.

Yeah, that's a nice little foundation there. Nice little structure. It's funny when that... You know what? I ain't... D-Lat said, my girl and I broke up a month later. Hold on.

My girlfriend and I broke up. I asked to get back together. I slept with someone else while broken up and she says she doesn't know if she can get over it. Any advice to change her mind? No. Absolutely not. Bro, y'all broke it up.

You don't get to hold my feelings hostage. And she probably slept with someone else and didn't tell you. Yep, sure did. Yes, she did. I've been in that very situation. I've been in the situation, D-Lat.

Bro, we have broken up. So I'm just supposed to sit around while you go do your thing. You out. You out. Hmm. No.

No. That's a crazy game. Crazy game. Ask yourself this. Why do you guys break up? Was it infidelity to begin with? Was it a lack of respect to begin with? Was it a family issue to begin with?

Was it boredom? Yeah. I mean, you have to ask yourself, do you want to be with her or is it the fault of her? Those are two different things now. Do you really want to be with her or is it the fault of her? Or do you not,

you don't want to see somebody else with her? With her, yeah. We've all been there, Ojo. You just don't want to see nobody else with her. We've all been there. We've all been there. We've all been there. Yeah. Like, I don't really,

I don't really want to be with you, but I'm going to apply a little pressure because I don't want to see nobody else with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember.

Yeah, I had a day like, I had a time like that back in 1993. I'll never forget. Yeah, the old Bonquisha. I wonder what she doing. She probably waiting on you. She probably waiting on you.

What's up? That's all he is. It's too late now. It is too late. Too late now. Yeah, boy, I'm good. You good? Ridge Bear says,

I plan on proposing to my girlfriend in the coming weeks. What are the chances I get Uncle Ocho to attend a wedding shooting my shot with you guys like I am with her? Much love.

Don't invite us. Just give me the address and let me crash it. Oh, Lord. Because me and Uncle, we're going to come through and we're going to sing Catalina Wine Mixer

like they did in Step Brothers. I'm ready. I'm performing. We're going to perform. Since we going to sing Catalina Wine Mixer Like they did in Step Brothers I'm ready I'm performing We going to perform Since they won't let us sing on YouTube We can't sing here We going to sing at the wedding You going to sing at the wedding

Yeah you remember You remember Step Brothers When they sang I remember Step Brothers Boats and Hoes Catalina Wine Yeah man Shit

Why we going to be at that bitch Turned up Why you like crashingrashing people weddings Don't you Because it It don't feel the same When they invite you It ain't the same

When they invite you When you show up It feels so much better When you just like Just walking that bitch Out of nowhere Like you not supposed To be there

Yeah it did It hit different Yeah It hit different like that Um I don't know All I know is this I'm trying to make it Yeah, it did. It hit different. Yeah. It hit different like that. I don't know. All I know is this.

I'm trying to make it through the NBA season, to the NBA finals, and I'm going to need me about six to eight weeks. I'm going somewhere. I'm getting off the grid. Where are you? Where are you NBA season in? The NBA finals is probably like that Sunday, which will be around Father's Day.

I mean, what month? June. Oh, so that's June. Oh, boy, you got a long way to go, boy. Hey. Oh, you got a long way to go. We ain't even hit the new year yet.

Hey, but one person is going to know where I'm at. He ain't going to be able to tell nobody. That's the man upstairs. Hey, that's the only person going to know where I'm at. Wait, wait, hold on.

Who you going with? You going by yourself? Ain't no telling. Did that just tell you ain't nobody going to know where I'm at wait hold on who you going with you going by yourself ain't no telling did I just tell you ain't nobody going to know yeah I know nobody going to know where you going to be at but I just want to know if it's going to be a plus one you know big daddy going to tear it up

big daddy going to tear it up and big daddy will tear it up that's all I'm going to say that's all I got for that I'm going somewhere I don't all I'm going to say, old Joe. That's all I got for that. I'm going somewhere. I don't know. I might go to Bala. Go live on the... Get on one of them old huts. Live on one of them huts

on the water. That's fine. That's okay. That's a long flight. And they say they got them old... They got them curtains around the seats. Yeah. My

high, here I come. And I ain't talking about Colorado. Ain't talking about Colorado. Yeah. You ain't like me, though, Ocho. You all nice and you know. O'Shea.

Who nice? I ain't nice. You nice. See, you ain't adventurous. Who ain't adventurous? What you? Boy, you forgot. I touch it from north.

Hold on, now. You forgot, now. I touch it from north to south. I make you hit every corner of the world. Don't do that. Nah, you hit every corner. And crevice. You on your own.

You got me there now. You got me. You got me. I'm just reminding you. Maybe you forgot who I was. Yeah, I did. Yeah. Don't forget my history now.

Yes, sir. The chat says, they have have an unc tracker like they do for Elon and Taylor Swift playing they ain't gonna know they ain't gonna know where I go on choke they don't need to know I'm ready I just want to see you happy man

I want to see you smile when you have a puzzle like all the pieces to your puzzle perfect it's almost together but there's one there's one piece of that puzzle that really hasn't completed it's not complete that one piece and that's that's the missus you need you need a missus in your life man you need a missus to complete everything just complete the journey you know in one that understands all you have going on and understands the sacrifices that you are making based on the vision and the journey that you want. Well, they're going to have to make sacrifices.

That's the thing, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm telling you, that's what I'm trying to find you, but you won't listen. You're hard-headed. You're stubborn. Sometimes. I know you heard that before.

This ain't the first time. But we're going to get there. How do you identify your purpose? If I was your son, what would you tell me? I'm the first in my family to break many cycles. I need some guidance. I didn't tell my son anything. I allowed him to be what he wanted to be.

Because at the end of the day, that's his life. I've lived my life. You've heard me say it before. I didn't want any of my... And I just told him, i told him i was talking to my daughter today her and i had a very heart-to-heart moment today she was kind of in her feelings about some things and uh i just had to explain some things to her so it was great um is that i never wanted my kids ocho my kids are a lot older than yours

to get to a point in their life and say, Dad, I only did this because of you. That was probably my greatest fear. Because you know how you do something, Ocho, and you're like, I only did it. I only came because you invited me. Or I only did this because...

Nah, nah. So in other words, you would have wasted 20, 25, 30 years of your in other words, you would have wasted 20, 25, 30 years of your life doing something that you didn't want to do only to appease your dad. Nah, nah. And so that's what I told my son,

you know, people like your son didn't play sport. That wasn't what he wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do. That's what his uncle wanted to do. He wanted to go to school get a degree there are a lot of things he wanted to build pharmacies

he wanted to do something with medicine he did that and you know he found his mate and he got married got my grandson and he's happy I think he's happy.

I think he's happier right now than had he done something that I wanted him to do. Right. So. Yeah, I'm kind of the same way with my kids. Obviously, my son,

with both of my sons, I would never force the issue. I'm not one of those that try to live vicariously through my kids I'm I'm a supportive dad and whatever it is that you want to do you can do whatever you choose to do you can do obviously anything that puts you in harm's way I'm not I'm not really support the other law but I'm yeah yeah I'm blessing you in whatever feat, whatever journey you take, I'm going to be with you 100 steps away. You don't have to play football.

You know, if you want to play football, cool, that's fine and dandy. If you don't want to play football, whatever it is you have to do, understand in life, you're going to have to earn a living. You're going to have to do something. You just can't do nothing. Now, you got to do something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. earn a living. You're going to have to do something. You just can't do nothing. Now, you got to do something. You got to be passionate about something in life and have that same drive and that same worth ethic that I did to be successful at whatever it is that you choose to

do. But whatever it may be, I'm all for it. I would never force. And I think growing up when you have kids, you never want to force them to do something because when they get to an age where they can kind of be rebellious and then not fight back literally, but like say, you know what, this ain't what I want to do. I don't want to do this because you forced me to do it. They, they, they tend to resent that and they grow up hating whatever sport that is that you're forcing on them because maybe you weren't successful at it or maybe because you want to force them to do it because you know you didn't make it so you want to make sure they do yeah live your life for your kids and don't you it's just not a sport anything a partner i've never looked i tell my kids all

the time if you like them i love them hell i ain't gotta spend one night with him you do right so right if that's who makes you happy my son hey don't you put your hand hey you got a kid now that's not your child you don't discipline her you talk to her you treat her with respect i tell her the same thing that's my son i love him i want you to treat him with respect my daughters say hey I ain't got hey if you love if you if you love him by all means I don't care I don't care what he does they say hey don't you want to I want my daughter to be happy if she finds somebody that makes 10 million that makes her happy I'm cool she finds somebody that makes 50,000 as long as that 50,000 can support them, I'm good. Because at the end of the day, I want my daughter

to be loved because I know they love. My son, I want him to find somebody that loved him because I know he loves. So all that other stuff, at the end of the day, if they find somebody that loves them, that's all I ask.

Bring me some, and give me some grandkids. You see my son, my grandson got this. Look at this. That's what I got. That's the t-shirt he got. Papa.

He got a football up on his arm and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. KJ got that for his papa. That's what he gonna call me. I told him, I said, well, my son said, Daddy, what. KJ got that for his papa. That's what he's going to call me. I told him, I said, well, my son said,

Daddy, what you want him to call you? He said, Dad, what you want him to call you? I said, he can call me Papa or he can call me Papa Shea. Yeah. Either one. I say, and when y'all come back, we're going to be at Magic eating chicken tenders.

Magic? I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for that. I want to see what that's going to be. Oh, that's bad. Oh, look. Woo!

Oh, Magic already got it. Just give me the way. Just let us get laid. Let me get to, like, towards the end of, you know. Let's get out of January. Let's get out hey, let me get to like, towards the end of, you know, let's get out of January. Let's get out of the football thing. Right. Let's get past the Super Bowls

or like the middle of February, March. Right. Uh-huh. I mean, I'm going to be in there like swimwear. You know how that be? You see them girls on IG, how that swimwear be fitting? That's how I'm going to be lodged up in there.

I'm going, I'm going. No, ain't no. I got to see, I got to see, I got to see what the food is like. And I want to be, I want to use, I want to use my peripheral vision as well. Okay. I want to see what the food look like. Oh.

But I want to use my peripheral vision as well. Yeah. All right now, stay with me now. Yeah. Ojo, you know what now. Stay with me now. Yeah. Ojo, you know what a man puts a glass up like that right now? When he puts a glass up

like that? Yeah. Oh, he mean business. He saw something. I'm getting a chicken tiller, the fine catfish strips, nuggets.

Oh. That's what I'm going to get. Magic City. That's going to be nice Real nice I can see it now Man Coming to the stage Coco

I bet she fine too Hey Coco Ferrari You know they got the car name Ferrari Yeah Hey, Coco. Ferrari. You know, they got the car name. You know, they got the car name, the Ferrari. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, Lexus?

I like it. I like it. I got to practice throwing my wands. You throw your wands like that? I ain't been in so long, Ocho. You do like this or you throw? I ain't been in there so long, man. It's been a while.

Okay, I got it. I got to practice. I got to practice. You know, I got it. I got to practice. I got to practice. You know, I know you got to lick your finger. I mean, you know, Ocho, you know, I might have to, you know, might have to save up. I might have to make a hail on them, throw some coins. You know, it be hailing in the club, too.

It's raining. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I can't compete. I can't compete. I can't compete with that. I probably get $100 in ones, and I throw $5 at a time and make it look like it's a lot.

But ain't going to... You got to throw it in. We got to go in there. We got to spend at least... We got to spend at least five between us. Five who? Five bands.

Man, oh, but I'm sorry. My bad. I almost, you know, God forgive me. I almost backslid. Well, you said somebody got to spend five bands I almost, you know, God forgive me. I almost backslid. Well, you said somebody got to spend five bands.

No, between us, 25 a piece. Oh, oh, okay. Okay, I could do that. I could do that. I could do that. I thought you were saying we got to spend five a piece. No, you know, I'm all about that. I'm going to keep on tipping and sipping.

Come on, come on now. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I could do 25. I could do 25. I could about that. I'm going to keep on tipping this, Sippy. Come on. Come on now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I can do 25. I can do 25. I can do that.

I can do that. Ain't no pressure. Ain't no pressure. Yeah, because I can do 12. I can do 12, 5 and get 12. Make real. Give me 12, 5. That's what you call it.

That's tied, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yeah. God damn. I like that. I like that. Yeah. God damn. I know that thing

would be nice too. Coming to the stage. Ocho, you recently tweeted saying, closed mouth don't get fed. Shooting my shots again for photographing your wedding for free.

I DM the Mrs. The Mrs. on IG and Twitter. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna hit it and let her know. I DM the Mrs. The Mrs. On IG And Twitter Yeah Oh I'm gonna hit it And let her know

She might be in the chat Baby Baby if you in the chat Well you know what She ain't said nothing So she probably ain't in here But I'm gonna let her know You know what I want to ask you

Before I take any more questions What you get for I don't control none of that What you get for Christmas Before I ask Answer Boy What you get

Boy stop Man stop playing Listen And what did I tell you When you asked me What'd you get for Christmas? Before I ask the question, what'd you get? Boy, stop. Man, stop playing. Listen, and what did I tell you when you asked me what can she get that I would really like? What's the first thing I said? I think you said perfume, cologne.

Cologne? No, no. I do it every day. I do it every day. No, that too, but what'd I smoke every day? Cigars. Dang.

Man, this woman bought me a brand new box of Daniel Marshall cigars, man. 24 karat, yeah, 24 karat gold cigars. Wow. A box of them things. What else? Man. Got me some nice cologne.

Got me some nice cologne. My baby, my baby, my daughter got me a nice cologne my baby my baby my daughter got me a uh mcdonald's gift card with a thousand dollars on there man yeah yeah man oh listen i got the new mcdonald's uh you seen the mcdonald's uggs uh-uh you ain ain't seen a McDonald's? I got to get you a pair. No, I'm good. I got, come on, I got to get you a pair of McDonald's Uggs. Like Uggs, like the Ugg boots that the women be wearing in the mall? Not Uggs, Crocs. Oh, I was going to say, I ain't with no damn Uggs.

You know I'm old. You know I'm old. I be mixing up the name, all type of stuff. I be making them name all type of stuff. But man, today was beautiful. Today was beautiful Today was beautiful I really enjoyed it Watching the faces man

The faces Of the kids When they light up Obviously they older now You already know what you're getting Just to see their faces Light up like that man And French Fry

Watching French Fry Don't know what the hell going on She don't know what's going on But she got her little present She opened them up And she tearing Off piece by piece Like girl Let me show you how you do this you gotta you gotta rip into that thing what you doing man so next year i'm sure she'll probably get the hang of it but i i thought

that that's i like christmas time man my kids they don't really ask for nothing throughout the year they don't really ask and they just be year. They don't really ask for nothing. It just be small stuff. It be small stuff. And I remember I tweeted out one of my daughter's lists and people were like, oh my goodness, that's expensive. Man, listen, if you understood how well they're doing in school, how well they're doing in school and when they're out of school, just the way they move and everything is... I don't want to take credit. I've done a good job. The moms have done a good job.

So when Christmas time comes, I want to reward them with everything they asked for. So that's a good feeling. Elijah Balto. Hey, Uncle Ocho. We recently had to put our beloved pet chocolate lab down and it's really hurting my family,

especially my father. Our dog was his little boy. How did you cope with the passing of your dog? Appreciate it. Okay, don't you, man, don't have me on here crying again like we did last time you were talking about dogs. It's tough. I ain't gonna lie, Ocho, it's tough. And you don't get over

it, you just deal with it better. With time, you know, you get to deal with it. But you spend so much time with them, and you know, the thing is, with me, i've always said i mean and i've i've seen people keep dogs alive or animals alive for themselves and not for the animal the animal's hurting he can't he or she can't it can't tell you it's hurting but it's hurting you know yeah and so you know but man it's tough bro it's gonna take you it's gonna take you a while it's tough, bro. It's going to take you. It's going to take you a while.

It'll take you a while. You're going to cry because you're going to think about the time that, you know, how many times it met you at the door and how excited it was to eat and how excited was you to pet you for you to pet it on its head. But as time passed, it gets a little easier for you to deal with. You don't get over it. I remember all my dogs. I remember all them, where I put them, where they was at, what I had them put down and held them in my arm when I had the vet come over there and administer the solution. Man, it's not easy, but I understand what you're going through, Elijah. Daniel Kaley, hey, Uncle Nocho, what advice would you give to a man finding the right woman to have kids with? The right traits in a woman or motherly personality traits?

Merry Christmas. Bro, that's something only you know. Yep, that's it. You know, mine, I just look for athletic ability. Can you run, jump, how high? Let me see your ankles. You know what I like to do? This is so funny.

With Real, when me and Real first met, obviously, you know, the first date had to be something where I had to see if she had any type of athleticism. And she has a background being in the Army, you know, being a paratrooper, obviously knowing how to shoot a gun and ready for war and all this training that she did. So since you like that and you're supposed to be a shooter like that, let's go play paintball one-on-one. Yeah, no, we went and played paintball one-on-one. We went and played paintball one-on-one and we did the course

and we tried to see who could win. She got you. I need to see you operate under pressure because there are going to come times in under pressure because they're going to come times in our relationship where we're going to be put in certain circumstances that are going to be similar to that

of paintball. That was fun. That was fun. How do you operate under pressure? Pyro Wedap a fan said. Oh, can you give Ash a formal shout out? What's her name?

She deserves public recognition from us, the fans. She's cool with it. She not. She does not. Man, look here. Anytime I'm taking a picture, I'm like, hey, Jordan, take this picture. I'm like, where Ash go? Man, Ash on the plane, Ash in the car, Ash done gone to the bathroom.

Look here. If you see, you're not going to know Ash with me. Ash be walking like 15 steps ahead or 25 steps behind. And you think she just like a passenger in the airport going. So she does not want anything. She's over here sitting in the airport going. So she does not want anything. She's over here sitting in the chair laughing. She's sitting

in the chair laughing. Ash, man, Ash does not want, she is, hey, she don't want any attention. She ain't get, oh, look here. The first thing, would Jordan take a picture? Did you get me?

Did you get me, Jordan? Let me see. I was just like, nah, I didn't get you. Let me see. She gonna get Jordan to cut that bitch out. She ain't get no picture ass, man. But she's amazing. She's unbelievable. She's an unbelievable hard worker. She's extremely dedicated. She's here today. So is Jordan. You know, they got a little time off. They didn't have to come as early as they normally do. Huh? You didn't have to come to the house, Ash. Oh, my God.

You did, Ash. You did. But you sleep, Tim. I ain't never seen nobody sleep like Ash. You did. But you sleep till... I ain't never seen nobody sleep like Ash. You swear she's a child. I'm talking about she sleep... No, she can literally sleep 14 hours a day. 14 hours a day.

I mean, I'll call Ash sometime in the day. She's like, hello. I'm like, Ash, it's 1.30! You'd be knocked out. She's like, how did you know I would sleep, Ash? Everybody can tell when somebody I woke you up. I'm like, bro, like, dude,

what's going on? I'm like, Ash, ain't that much sleep in the world. But no, she's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. A lot of the success that I've been able to enjoy, that we've been able to enjoy with Nightcap, is directly tied to Ash.

So where are we at now with subs, Ash? Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We started at 544,000 subs. Yeah. We just hit 548. I love y'all. I appreciate

y'all. Ocho, Ocho, dude. Outside champ. You know what I go, what I say I'all. I appreciate y'all. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, dude. Outside chat. You know what I go, what I say I go to? 600,000. 600K, right? 600K by the end of the year.

I told you, I told you, man, we gonna, man, listen, man, we gonna surpass that. I told you that. I told you that when you, when you mentioned it the first time. Today is the 25th, so the end of the week,

so Sunday will be the first, right? Or Monday? Chat. I love y'all. Monday, Monday the first, right? Or Monday? Chat. I love y'all. Monday is the first. Monday is the first. So we got to try to get 56,000 subs between now and Sunday at midnight. Oh, 56,000?

You know, I'm hollering at my partner. I'm hollering at my partners. Man, we going to get there. We going to get there. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're now officially at 548,000 subs. Please make sure you subscribe to the podcast, the feed.

You can get it at Nightcap Podcast Feed. You can also get it through the club's Shea Shea Feed. Thank you for supporting us. What we also have done, we pinned Shea by LaPortier at the top of the chat. Christmas is gone, but you know what? Go ahead and get your bottle for New Year's, Valentine's Day, or President's Day for a special bottle for you or someone

that you love, and your favorite would greatly appreciate that. The Ravens do a demolition job on the 49ers, 33-13. They pick Brock Purdy off five times and score on seven straight possessions. They win 33-19.

Who else? Kansas City lose, unable to secure the AFC West 20-14 to the Raiders. Two back-to-back possessions of a scooping score and a pick six. Doom the Chiefs. And right now, they need another victory in order to secure the division.

And then the Giants. See, I like doing the hello. You like that little contraption, huh? I'm going to get me one. Baby, if you in the chat, baby, I need one of them contraptions. I'm using, please. Come on up here. Oh, Wi-Fi real slow right now.

What was it? 33-25. The Giants win 33-25, right? Because they won by eight. They won 33-25. Yep. 33-25. Yep. 33-25. Jalen Hurst is the first quarterback to go back-to-back

season with at least 20 touchdown passes and 10 touchdown rushing. He's also set an NFL record for the most rushing touchdowns in a season by quarterback with 15. So congratulations to the Ravens, win 33-19. Congratulations to the Eagles, 33-25. And the Raiders went on the road 2014 over the Chiefs. And so, with that

being said, I'll see you again, Nightcap with Gil and Shay. What are these? these and then you know I don't do the retro I don't do the retro

I don't do the retro Bumblebees do you know what this is Ojo what shoe model give me 11s no 11 is a

I don't man if it ain't Jordan 1s I don't know man what number is that that's a 4 4 on 4 in them

on 4 in them okay so again thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap please make sure you hit that like button

make sure you hit that subscribe button. We hit a record of 43,000 in the chat tonight. Thank you for all for tuning in, for joining us on your Christmas. We greatly appreciate that. Ocho will be back Thursday

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