Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - The Bears' Ugly Win, Megan Thee Stallion, Jalen Hurts vs. Lamar Jackson

Episode Date: November 28, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Chicago Bears beating the Minnesota Vikings, the Carolina Panthers firing first-year head coach Frank Reich and what it means for Bryce Young, Shannon clears up his comments about Megan Thee Stallion, the guys debate whether they would start their franchise with Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson and much more! 00:00 - Introduction4:10 - Bears beat Vikings13:15 - Shaq Lawson apologizes20:00 - Frank Reich fired29:00 - Deebo Samuel vs. Eagles45:00 - Megan Thee Stallion Talk1:00:00 - Unc loves to brush his teeth1:25:00 - Hurts or Lamar?1:29:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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if we can hit a million subs before January, because we're already in December. If we can hit a million subs before January, because we're already in December, if we can hit a million subs before January, how about we do this, right? How about we act like Oprah and give away a car? If we can hit a million subs before January, how about we give away a car? I'm talking about something efficient, affordable,

where they, and obviously not where they have to make any payments, but all they would have to do is cover their insurance. Well, they're going to have to pay the taxes. Well, I cover the taxes then. I cover the taxes. But if we can hit a million subs, if we can hit a million subs before January, I'll call.

And I'm standing on business about that. Y'all know I don't play my right hand of God. Somebody going to get a car. And I'm standing on business about that. Y'all know I don't play my right hand of God. Somebody going to get a car if we hit a million subs before January. And I guarantee you that.

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and let you drive and we're in the middle of nowhere now. I know I should have put that navigation system. Not really, because the only person behind this wheel is Jesus. Man, look here. I know I should have trusted you. Gave you the mic, and you done started talking crazy.

You done told all the business. Man, okay, y'all heard it. Get us to a million subs by January the 1st, and we're going to give away a car and ocho go pay the taxes on it that's fine we'll give away a car we're gonna give away a car ladies and gentlemen get us to a million subs by january 1st we're giving away a car all right let's get into tonight's action the bears beat the vikes 12 to 10 entered the night the chicago bears had lost 22 22 straight games in which they trailed at any point in the fourth quarter

justin fields 27 to 37 217 yards joshua dobbs was 22 of 35 he had a bunch of turnovers 185 yards four picks four have three they probably win the game easily two they run away with it but

what was something you take away tonight listen I love I love both teams I love both quarterbacks I love Dobbs I love Justin Fields but it was the snooze fest

it was the snooze fest it was the defensive game obviously the interception didn't make it any better drop ball drop ball going into other players' hands. Both sides' ball at the half, it was 3-3. Nothing was going on. Nothing, I mean, they were moving the ball somewhat efficient up and down the field,

but there was no scoring. Three field goals a night? What, three field goals or four field goals to win the game? Four. Four field goals. Four field goals and a touchdown. No, actually, it was five field goals on a touchdown. Five field goals on a touchdown.

Like, come on. That's not what we signed up for, especially for a primetime game, a Monday night game, something that we all look forward to. Something about the slate of primetime games have been very, very boring, very, very lackluster outside of, was it Thursday night or was it Sunday night with the Beatles and Eagles? Oh, you're talking about Philly and Buffalo? That was Sunday.

That was Sunday afternoon. And then have to, oh, I'm sorry, Sunday afternoon. Then have to be succumbed to the game tonight. It was unfortunate. Again, Dobbs, you can't win a game. You can't win a game like that. You can't turn the ball over that many times and overcome it.

You preach it. You harp on it all the time about turning the ball over like that. And on the other side of the ball, I mean, the Bears played phenomenal defense. They played great defense, especially for them to turn the ball over, for the Vikings to turn the ball over that many times. I would have liked for the Bears to have run away with this game. It shouldn't have come down to a field goal at the this game. It shouldn't have come down to a field goal at the end. It definitely shouldn't have came down to a

field goal. Yeah, I agree with you. But I think the thing was, Ocho, when you look at this game, when they set matchup for Monday night, which is a year in advance, I'm sure ESPN, who telecast the game, was expecting to get Kirk Cousins and they were expecting, and Justin

Jefferson, and they were expecting to get a much improved Justin Fields. And so that's what you're expecting. Well, you don't always get what you expect. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes – and so I think that was the case. Joshua Dobbs has kind of bounced around, and I think sometimes you see – I mean, he can show you flashes, but I think tonight shows you

why he's bounced around, why he's had so many stops in this league. But, you know, you mean, he can show you flashes, but I think tonight shows you why he's bounced around, why he's had so many stops in this league. But, you know, you're asking an awful lot. A guy that's just, he's been there probably less than a month. Three weeks. So to come in and play extremely well. He had flashes. He had some flashes, but you've got to protect the football.

I mean, you're not that good of a football team to overcome those kinds of mistakes. And, but give their defense credit. Like you said, he turned the ball over four times and they only gave up three, well, they only gave up three field or four field goals. So the Vikings, the Nell Hunters having an unbelievable season. They still, they played hard, but you just hard, it's hard for you to overcome those kinds of mistakes.

Justin Fields, on the other hand, the turnovers again, fumbled the ball twice he allowed them to get back into the game, you gotta protect the ball you know the funny thing about it is I think more so he's protecting the ball if you see him, you can see him cover up with the ball, but the funny thing

the defensive player laying the hat in the right place at the right time and it still came out anyway. It still came out anyway. Them guys are really good. The thing is now, Ocho, I mean, occasionally they did it, but they have drills now.

They know how to punch that ball out. They'll put their helmet right on the ball, so even if you got it nice and tight, guys will come in and punch it out, or you trying to cover up, guys will come in and put their helmet on the side and it goes squirting out so give those guys credit they found a way to get the ball out uh from justin fields and uh it probably wouldn't even been a game if he could have held on to the ball but it allowed minnesota to get the ball and score a touchdown so uh yeah it wasn't the most entertaining game but you you know, somebody, uh, I'm sure the bears said, hold on,

um, to go on the road and to win a ball game, given their history, especially in the fourth quarter, being behind at any point in time and to find a way to win the ball game. Maybe that gives them some confidence, but I thought also now I know he's been injured with that thumb, Justin Fields,

but I definitely was expected him to take that next step because his legs, you see what happened with Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts had unbelievable legs, but in the offseason, he got better and better and better at throwing the football. So now, he's

really a dual threat because he can beat you either or. And I think that's the next step in order for Justin Fields to be. And I don't, I don't know. I don't think he's going to be in Chicago. I really don't because it looks like the Carolina Panthers are going to have the number one pick,

which means that's going to go to the Chicago bears. Yeah. But, Oh, so you think Caleb, Caleb, Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams has a high,

he's have, they're saying he's going to have one of the higher grades for a quarterback that's come out in a very long time. I don't see how they, they passed it up once. You know, you could have had CJ Stroud. You could have had Bryce. I don't believe they do it again, Ocho. Because guess what you can do, Ocho?

You could really build. I can, I can, hey, you want Justin Fields? Who could, there are like 10, 15 teams that need Justin Fields. Hey, I can get another first-round pick. Plus, I'm in the top 10 myself. The Bears got their own pick. So you mean to tell me I might be able to have three top 10, top 15 picks?

Tell me I can't build something with that old Joe. You can't. You can't. Maybe I take maybe I take that ladder pick for Justin Fields and I trade it and get me a veteran player I like that

but again I'm going to go back to what Caleb Williams said I don't even know if he really quoted this or did he really mean to say what he said earlier about obviously whatever team draft means I'm going to want some type of capital in the team then i the nfl is not doing that they won't allow that they'll make you they they may they'll make you divest any part i mean none of they're not giving up a part of the team

they're not going to start that president the nfl is not one for starting presidents i don't think any professional league will allow a current player to have an ownership state in a team. Because remember, they made Brady, I mean, Brady had an advance, I think he tried to, what was it? Oh, the Dolphins. Remember they tried to

run that little backboard deal? That's what got everybody in trouble. And Brian Fl yeah, yeah. And Brian Flores, yeah. They said, oh, no, that's not going to happen. You come play quarterback. We'll give you a little percentage of the team. We'll keep that hush hush.

No, sir. No, you're not. Yeah, but you got to remember, he also said, I don't know if it was him talking or maybe his family members talking. He was saying, depending on the team that would have the number one pick, I would even subject myself to going back to USC for another year if the team is that bad. Football is too dangerous. It's too dangerous as a game. You're going to run the risk of tearing an ACL? You're going to run the risk of breaking a leg?

Or you're going to take $40 million in your hands, Ochoa? I just want to know what Ochoa is going to do. Listen, obviously you know I would come out, but when a player says something like that ahead of time, before it's time to get drafted. They're just talking, trying to scare teams off. They're trying to scare teams off. You think so?

Ocho, you know how you be saying, do it again and see what happens. You don't really want them to do it again. You're really trying to scare them off and deter them from doing said what they did to begin with. And I think that's what caleb williams he's trying to deter oh joe you're not going to the cowboys you're not going when you're the number one pick right you're not going to a quality team that's the reason why they got the number one pick if they were any good they wouldn't have the number one pick this is not like basketball basketball the lakers won the NBA title one year.

It then got James Worthy. Yeah. Yeah. They won the title in 82 and got James Worthy. How you do that? Right. Yeah, that's totally unfair because then obviously you get situations like Bryce Young. I'm sorry to go off topic right now.

No, go ahead. Go ahead. We can get situations like Bryce Young where a young fella, he's the number one pick in the draft. And I love the Panthers. I love them on both sides of the ball. But there's really nothing for them to work with. Obviously, Frank Wright.

We getting on that in a minute anyway. So I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop because we got that later on. I'm going to stop. Yes. Okay. We saw what transpired. Shaq Lawson apologizes for shoving the Eagle fan.

He just got to let it go, knowing his frustration. Both Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips wrote on Instagram that a fan threatened them and their situation that escalated throughout the game. Lawson later apologized for the shove while saying certain lines should not be crossed. Right. What's your takeaway on that, Ocho? I mean, listen, you know, fans have to remember that we, as athletes, especially when it comes to our family, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't cross that line. There's a certain line that you don't cross, a certain line that you just don't do when it comes to, you can heckle, you can say what you want, don't touch, don't get in anybody's face. Don't be disrespectful. And half the time, the fans do this stuff purposely simply for a money grab. Simply because if you touch them, you do anything to them, you shove them, you push them, oh, I'm hurt. Oh, my neck. Oh, my back.

Simply. That's all it comes down to at the end of the day. If you're not a fan of a certain player, you know, enjoy it. I mean, me, for example i love the trash talk i love you saying stuff about i love you cursing i i enjoy that everybody's not the same especially when it comes to people's family and people's kids there's a line you have to draw because they will lose it and forget that they are a part of the nfl or part of the nba they will forget that really quick when it comes to family. Yeah, family is a line

that you shouldn't cross. You start talking about somebody's wife or somebody's significant other, somebody's kids. Yeah, that's a green light. They become very protective. And I don't know why you would go to the game and talk about someone's family member

in that manner because you wouldn't want someone to come to your place of employment and talk to you. Now, I understand. You know, you want to cheer. You want to say I suck. You want to say I boo me. I like that.

Because the more you boo me, that tells me the better I am. You don't boo special teams players. You don't boo guys that's not dressed out. You boo the really good players. And the louder you boo, you're telling me I must be really good. And I'm okay with that. Right. But when you start calling me

a B-I-T-C-A or a mofo and all that, bro, hold up now. Come on now. Yeah. I didn't sign up for that. And so I think sometimes fans get carried away

and they's like, well, if you're paying me a million dollars, I should be able to say whatever I want. And you should be able to take. No, no, it doesn't work like that. It really doesn't.

And I don't know why you would. I mean, just because your job doesn't subject you to that. I mean, I wouldn't go to I wouldn't go to somebody's place of work. And no matter like I said, you know, we were talking about tip service, but I'm not going to call nobody out their name. I'm not going to say, oh, you this or you that. That's not what I'm going to do. But I, you know, sometimes fans, you know, and plus, Ocho, you got to realize now, a lot of these fans probably showed up an hour, two hours before the game.

And they've been probably had a couple of drinks, a couple of beverages along the way. So two hours before the game and now you're going through a threat. So you've been there five hours and you've been throwing a couple of them things back. And now all of a sudden you got that curbage in. Yeah, you're feeling good. That liquid So you've been there five hours and you've been throwing a couple of them things back. Now, all of a sudden, you got that courage. Yeah, you're feeling good. That liquid courage. You're feeling good.

You feel invincible. And I think if we were to ask, let's say if you were to line up a hundred people, if you were to line up a hundred people and ask fans, how do you feel about heckling of players?

They would all probably agree, probably agree, they should be able to take it. They make millions of dollars. That's everybody's first question that they lean on is they make all probably agree probably agree they should be able to take it they make millions of dollars yes that is that's everybody's first crush that they lean on is they make all this money they should be able to withstand you know hey sticks and stones may break my bones but words don't but still you come to somebody's job yeah you're coming to somebody's job you know have fun enjoy it talk your trash Just don't get disrespectful

and cross certain lines that you know you wouldn't want anybody doing to you. Right. Because you know, Ojo, you know, you probably have to buy five or six beers. You probably look like, man, Jordan Phillips and Shaq Lawson, they don't look that big. Like, I can take them. I'll be like, hey, Ojo, you know, you start like, hey,

he ain't that big. I mean, he got pants on. So probably in real life, they probably not that big. Yeah. And you start like, hey, he ain't that big. I mean, he got pants on. So probably in real life, they probably ain't that, they're probably not that big. Yeah. And you start like trying to convince yourself. Hey,

hey you. Yeah. Look at me. I'm talking to you. Fuck. You know what I'm saying? So, you know,

you be the one with the ass cutting and don't even know it. don't even know it. But like, I understand fans, you want to go and you want to have a good time

and I'm okay with that. But like I said, there are certain lines, no matter what it is, there are certain lines that you shouldn't cross. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

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Ocho, I kind of think we kind of knew this was coming. What are you supposed to do, man? What's Frank supposed to do, man? What you supposed to do? What is Frank Rice supposed to do? You got the number one pick. You draft Bryce Young. Yeah.

You draft Bryce Young. He comes to a team, right? Reports are you wanted C.J. Stroud. C.J. Stroud. But again, I'm- The owner, David Tepper, wanted Bryce Young. But this is the problem. This is the problem with that.

I don't care if you had C.J. Stroud. I don't care if you had, maybe you had a little lamb. I don't care if you had Bryce Young. What you see right now are the same results you were going to get, regardless of who you have at the helm, when you don't have the proper players surrounded by that said player. I totally agree, Ochoa.

You know, and no disrespect to anybody that plays for the Panthers. I'm just saying what you're seeing is a result of not having the said product necessary to compete at the level and they have to build. They have to build. I hope, I God God forbid, I hope Panthers fans understand it's going to take time. They have to build. They have to build. I hope, God forbid, I hope Panthers fans understand it's going to take time.

They have to build a team around Bryce Young so we can see the same results we saw from him when he was at Alabama. Yeah, I think the thing is, Ochoa, what happens is that David Tepper is a guy that doesn't have very much patience. Oh, you got to. You got to. Well, he doesn't seem to understand that because he had Matt Rule on the payroll. And then he had a great situation with Steve Wilkes. Steve Wilkes came way halfway through the season. They played extremely well. But he wanted names.

He liked names. He's looking to make a splash. And Steve Wilkes didn't have the cachet or didn't have the name. Right. So all of a sudden, he wasn't as appealing. Well, appealing, that doesn't work. Nah. You better get somebody that knows, that can relate to these players,

that has a good system, and you probably should have got a defensive coordinator so you can run the football and play to your defense. Right. But like you said, Bryce Young doesn't have a Nico Collins. He doesn't have a Tank Dale. He doesn't have a Laramie Tunsil. He doesn't have the pieces around

him to be successful like a C.J. Stroud. And so with that being said, you shouldn't expect the same level of success. But I think the thing that what really irked the owner, David Tepper, was no offense of improvement. It seems to be like they were regressing as opposed to I'm not saying, Ocho, that we go out there and we win.

You know, we five and one and ten. Let's just say for sake of argument, they five and six. But it seems like week after week, the offense regresses. Right. And so when there is no progress, progress, it seems to be regress. So now what do we do? Yeah. Well, they fired the head coach. You fired Josh McCown.

You fired the quarterback coach. So why you didn't fire the offensive coordinator if you won in 10? Well, Frank White wasn't calling the offensive players, was he? Yes, probably so. Okay, okay, okay. He was. Yeah, that's his expertise. And probably that's how he was able to get the job

is because he called the plays. Plays, okay. Yeah. I have a question. I have a question. You would probably be better suited to answer that for me because I don't, you know, my knowledge across the NFL, I don't know.

How many head coaches actually call the offensive plays? Or how many head coaches are offensive minded and also call the offensive plays? I would say... What percentage do you think? Well, Mike McCarthy let Kellen Moore go,

so he calls the plays. Right. Kyle Shanahan, he calls the plays. Okay, yeah. Sean McVay, he calls the plays. Andy Reid,

he calls the plays. Okay, that. Sean McVay, he calls the plays. Andy Reid, he calls the plays. Okay, that's three. The guy in Cincinnati, your head coach, he calls the plays. Zach Taylor called the plays? Yeah, Sean Payton calls the plays. Josh McDaniel was calling the plays. So I would literally have to go. Oh, well, Brian Dayball of the Giants, he gave up the play calling.

Right, right, right. Ron Rivera doesn't call the plays. Eric Biennium calls the plays. So let's go to the – Pete Carroll doesn't call the plays. No. Sean McVay does. Does the guy in Gannon. Gannon's a defensive guy, so he doesn't call the plays in Arizona.

You know, the funny thing about it is think about all the think about all the offensive minded head coaches that you just named. What are all their offenses doing? Very, very well. All of the all the offenses, all of Shanahan McVay offense on fire. Zach Taylor offense was on fire. Obviously, we had a slow start. Now, Joe Burrow being out. Good thing, yeah.

There was two more you said. I can't remember the names off the top of my head. But you just see what I'm saying. But all those teams offensively, they are structured to work and be efficient. In Carolina, they don't have that. They don't have it. But also, Ocho, they have veteran quarterbacks. You got a rookie.

Okay, okay. That's right. That's right. Russ is a veteran. Patrick Mahomes is a veteran. Matthew Stafford is a veteran. Right. I mean, so, come on now.

So, even though Josh McDaniels got fired, Jimmy Garoppolo was a veteran. So, yes, you got veteran quarterbacks and you got offensive minded guys. Although Brock Purdy's in his second year, but he's not a rookie. Right. And he was a starter last year. Right. So with that being said, I mean mean it takes some grace but David Tepper seems to be a guy

that if it doesn't work right away or immediately he's willing to like okay boom tear it up but I guess when you got

eight nine billion dollars Ocho you can do that yeah but listen I think he has to understand the nature of the business the nature of the beast when it comes to the NFL you can't just

pull right away like a deck of cards and reshuffle it and think you're gonna you're gonna have a hand that you can't just pull right away like a deck of cards and reshuffle it and think you're going to have a hand that you can play. It don't work like that. You're going to have to have patience.

You got a rookie quarterback. You have to build and put pieces around that quarterback. One solid offensive lineman. One solid. Obviously, you want it to be your left tackle. Somebody really good. Yes, all things being equal,

you want your left tackle. You need one solid receiver, a security banker where you can close your ass and know nine times out of ten I can go I can come to his ass on first, second

or third goddamn down then work your defense running backs you know how they feel about running backs right now you can you can

pull and pull in any which way you want and get somebody that's efficient but that takes time I could just sit here and call it out on what you need to get somebody that's efficient. But that takes time. I could just sit here and call it out on what you need to do, but in order to do it the right way, it takes time.

Yeah. You look at the Houston Texans and C.J. Stroud, they got the highest paid left tackle and the highest paid offensive lineman in football, Laramie Tunsil. And probably the best left tackle in the game outside of,

what's the young fella over there with the Cowboys? They're with 77. Oh, you like Tyron Smith? Woo! And you know you got, hey, you got that big boy out there. 49ers. Brother Trent Williams.

That's the top three, right? Yeah, for sure. That's the top three. Oh, my goodness. Them boys good. Yeah, they move some. Them boys good. Yeah, they move some.

I mean, Trent's a 10-time Pro Bowler. I think Tyron Smith is a 7-, 8-time Pro Bowler, many-time All-Pro. Yeah. But look at the Cowboys. I mean, the Cowboys got an All-Pro, a guy, first battle Hall of Fame in Zach Martin. Yeah.

They got a left guard that they drafted that exceeded everybody's expectations. He looks like a mini Larry Allen, and you got Tyron Smith. Yeah. But you have to have, you have to give a Bryce Young time. You got to give him protection,

and you got to give him weapons. Yeah. And he doesn't have any, he doesn't have any weapons. He doesn't have an offensive line that can protect him. Bryce Young, the Panthers on Sunday scored 15 of fuel points

for the fifth straight time, seven times in 11 games. Bryce Young ranks last in QBR. He's been sacked 40 times, tied for fifth player through his first 10 starts. Since sacks were an official stat, sacks were first tracked in 1963. They didn't become an official stat until 1982. That's crazy, man. That's crazy.

People have been taking the quarterbacks for a long time and didn't get credit for it he gonna be alright though he gonna be alright there for one he's coming from a program where he's used to winning

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Debo Samuels. Uh, he doesn't regret calling James dreams. Brad Baird, the fourth trash ahead of his massive week 13 showdown. Back in the off season, Debo had some words for Brad Barry said he was trash. Debo was asked on Monday. Did you regret calling him Brad bear trash? He said,

I don't regret anything. I don't regret nothing. I say Debo was upset. How the Fortnite has lost a feeling. Remember he, uh, uh, uh,

Brock Purdy hurt his elbow. And then Josh Johnson got knocked out of the game with a concussion, and the Eagles coasted to a 31-7 victory because they ended up snapping the ball directly to Christian McCaffrey and a lot of other things. But basically, the two starting quarterbacks got knocked out of the game and left them limited.

Debo said, we lost because we played with 10 people. I ain't going to keep going on about it, what could have happened or what should have happened. But yeah, it would definitely have been a different outcome if we're healthy. So what's your takeaway on Deebo? I like it. I like it. This is what we need. This is what the NFL has been missing.

We've been missing a little bit. Obviously, you go out there and play. You got the product on the field. You got people celebrating. You got people having fun. You got people celebrating. You got people having fun. You got people dancing. You got choreography. But we don't have no goddamn trash talk.

We don't have no trash talk. We don't got no players going at each other. We don't have no personal arguments like we had when I was playing during my era where there were certain people that literally didn't like each other and really meant it. It's like having food with no goddamn seasoning. What Debo Samuel just did is he added food to the seasoning. So now, guess what everybody going to be doing?

Guess what everybody going to do when they play? Everybody going to be tuned in because you want to see what Bradbury does. You want to see what Deebo does. It makes the game fun and exciting, even if they are serious

from the outside looking in. Now, as a fan of the game, I love this. I love it. This is something that, this is a a fan of the game, I love this. I love it. This is something that, this is a dynamic part of the game that has been missing that was great in the 80s.

It was great in the 90s. It was great in the early 2000s. But it's a lost art that players don't do. If there's somebody they don't like, come out, let them know, and then go out there and back up your talk.

Well, they're too busy exchanging jerseys after the game. So, I mean, I mean, come on, Ocho, man. They took this too far. I mean, everybody, you want everybody's jersey, bro? You didn't exchange jerseys? When we went to the Pro Bowl. Oh, okay, okay.

I mean, back when I... And helmets. And helmets. Yeah. You know, you would, every once in a while, hey, Sean, let me get that. Okay, fine. But helmets wasn't the thing, but I don't, I'm trying to think. The only jersey I ever swapped was my last year in Baltimore. But this was after

the game. I mean, we were in the tunnel and Ray and I exchanged jerseys. But, nah, not on the field and not after every game. Yeah, you right. You right. You right. I mean, I mean, in my basement, I don't I won't

I won't I don't want Everybody's jersey Well you got my jersey In your basement Man I ain't got I'm trying to say I think I got

I got my Excuse me I got my Super Bowl jerseys Then you had You had to throw that In there on me huh Yeah but That's all I got up there

As far as jerseys I got Rays I got Rays And I got Peyton's. Peyton's Bronco jersey. Why you ain't got my jersey? I ain't mad at you. Oh, sure, I was going.

I mean, what you came here in 2001? It don't matter. You should have my jersey hanging up just because. Just because. I'm your boy. I just told you, man. Y'all be, I mean, when the Bengals come to the Pro Bowl,

y'all be begging people to take that helmet. Man, as a matter of fact... Yo, she over here laughing a little too loud, man. As a matter of fact, I got Slim Pickens. Slim Pickens couldn't find nobody. He said, man, Shark, just take it. I said, all right. I said, because I'm not trained, you know. Because you know the hot helmets

the Cowboys and the Raiders. Oh, yeah. Everybody wanted the Cowboys and the Raiders. Especially back then. Yeah, everybody wanted it. And Emmitt didn't the Raiders. Especially back then. Yeah, man. Everybody wanted it. And Emmitt didn't trade his helmet. Time didn't really trade his helmet. No.

No. No. Because if I'm not mistaken, I think Emmitt might have worn the same helmet damn near his whole career. Man, Emmitt didn't really get off nothing.

No gloves, no shoes. Right. Emmitt was like, man, Emmitt, you know the dude kept every touchdown ball he scored. And he scored damn near 170 times.

You know what's funny? Now that you think about it, man, I think I really messed up. I really messed up. And when I was playing as far as keeping memorabilia and having memories to pass, man, I ain't got shit, man. I ain't got no jerseys.

I ain't got no footballs. Like, some of the props I use for celebrations, I don't know what my Hall of Fame jacket is because that's the only one I'm going to get. I would love to have that and frame it and create my own bus and have my own bus made. Like, I don't have nothing. I scored a few touchdowns.

I ain't got one goddamn ball. I went to the Pro Bowl six, seven times. I don't even nothing. I scored a few touchdowns. I ain't got one goddamn ball. I went to the Pro Bowl six, seven times. I don't remember how many times. I ain't got, I don't even know where my Pro Bowl shit at. I don't have no memorabilia. And I think that's bad. I think that's bad. If I look back on it and I look at some of the guys that i went to the pro bowl with

yeah um one year it was montana was my quarterback i think it was montana elway marino i mean like like two years in a row i had elway marino montana warren moon It didn't get anything. Bruce Smith, Junior Seau, DT, Cortez, Kennedy. Obviously, the NFC, you had rest of this old Reggie White. I mean, you had the dogs over there, man. Man, you shit.

I didn't even talk about it. I would have took everybody's stuff. Do you realize the names you just called off? Yeah. Hey, but I remember the first time I went, my brother,

my brother went and I was just, I was in the lead, but I was just, he's like, Hey, my sister had went the year before. And then I went the next year and man, I went over there and I was just looking around,

you know, Jerry, I mean, Jerry, Michael, Chris Carter, Herman Moore, my brother, uh, uh, Reg Carter, Herman Moore, my brother, Reggie,

and Bruce, and DT, and Seau. Man, I mean, and the quarterbacks. You know, you had Steve and Troy, Brett Favre. I mean, bro, it didn't really dawn on me until it was too late. My last year at the Pro Bowl, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady was there. Nothing. That's crazy. But at the time, it's not like it is now where guys are understanding

or collectibles and me. Right. It didn't even dawn. Oh, Deion was the corners. Deion, Rod Woodson, Aeneas Williams. Aeneas, Arizona. Yeah. Aeneas, you were nice. DG, Daryl Green was on. Yes.

I'm messed up. I'm messed up. So it's not 11, 10, 12, whatever years removed I am from the game. Now I wish I should have kept some of that stuff, and I don't know what it is. Somebody out there, if you see this and you have my Hall of that stuff And I don't know what it is Somebody out there If you see this And you have my

Hall of Fame jacket My replica I would like it back You know That's a keepsake for me And if I have some frame I would like to frame that Because that's a one on one

Yeah Barry I mean Barry Emmett was the running back I mean Man Boy you had Barry and Emmett was there

Yeah You ain't getting none from Barry Nope Nope I mean but here's the thing Barry barely came down And boy, you had Barry in him. It was there. You ain't getting nothing from Barry. Nope. Nope. I mean, but here's the thing. Barry barely came down. I mean, you might, you might see Barry once or twice. It was hard because when we first started going, it was at the Hilton Hawaiian.

Yeah. It wasn't secluded like it was at the Iolani. Right. Iolani was nice. Yeah. Iolani was nice. The Iolani, it was all basically people over there, it's family or friends of family.

Right. At the Hill of the Wine, it could be anybody because it was open. You just, you know, you just go. Right. And so guys didn't want to be bothered. So they were just like secluded, you know. So, but no, I didn't even think about it, Ocho. But I agree with you.

I like Debo what Debo had to say. Yeah. Because it's not like they're going to call the game because he said a little. And it's not like they're going to play hard if he said a lot. It's not, right. The game got to be played. Yeah, no matter what.

Whether you like me or not, I'm still going to show up. So you don't, oh, we're going to punish you. We're going to make you meet in the words. That's what I'm here for. Yeah, most definitely. I hate coaches that say don't give another team bullet to ball material.

Don't do anything that's going to make them play better. Play what? Play who? Play how? What you talking about? They put their pants on one leg at a time like me.

They bleed the same way I do. So, you know, why not talk trash? All you got to do is back it up. Ain't nothing wrong with that. And that is what the game is missing. NFL players, if you see this, we got maybe, what, six, seven more weeks to go. Start talking shit.

Call somebody out. Call somebody out. Hold on just a second, Ocho. Hey, hey. You ain't let me get no kiss or nothing. Shake this out. Real said she sleep. Nah, she just this out. Rell said she's asleep. She just flew in.

Oh, did she? Yeah. Come here, baby. Get some sugar. Hey, how you doing? Hey, Rell. That's my baby right there. Hold up.

Hold up. Hold up. I'm blushing. I'm blushing, hold on. You blushing, I can't tell. But I know you are, though. Okay, come on, back to work, back to work. Guys, YouTube has filtered it out. We can't do emails in a live chat. No.

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Ocho you sat courtside I sat courtside baby I sat courtside although it wasn't a very good game you got an opportunity to see competition at its highest level, although the Lakers' effort left a lot to be desired. So what was kind of your takeaway from the game?

Listen, I had fun. I had fun, huh? Listen, I wasn't worried about the score of the game. I was watching boys. You know, I was watching the pick and roll. I was watching Maxie. Maxie was hitting threes. Boy, that boy, that boy, they're good.

Everybody was hitting threes on Legos. But that good everybody was hitting three you the Lego listen The young fella. What's the young fella name? Joel Abid? Yeah, and be yeah and be nice You know him and ad was going at it. They was battling what him boy trees what? Yeah, they saw them boys is a person. Yeah. Yeah, I seen LeBron I seen you know Pat Bev out there playing defense on Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves, nice with it. You know that? For sure.

For sure, yes. Austin Reeves, I know where he grew up. I know he grew up around, you know, some of them people because he played like one of these. Oh, yeah, Kobe of the Ozarks. Oh, yeah. Well, he played like one of those. Oh, he's nice with it. Listen, I'm not a huge, and I can say this. I'm not a huge fan of the game of basketball,

but having the opportunity, I go to one heat game a year. This was my first game this, this year, obviously. And I hadn't, I haven't been to a heat game yet, but being able to sit courtside at a game like that, LeBron, AD, Maxie, Pat Bev, I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed the experience. Um, I had fun and you know what the score line didn't even matter to me i was just happy to be at the game sitting close enough to see the players play and though to be the size that some of these dudes are and to be able to move and be as quick and be as efficient as they are you know being able to transition and come out come off the pick and and pull up in the mid-range. It was beautiful.

And I need to get more into it, more in tune to the game of basketball so I can talk about it the way you can or the way Stephen A. Smith can, the same way I can talk about football, soccer, boxing, and tennis. I'm going to get there, but it's going to take me about three, four years, I think. Yeah, it's – did any, it's, it's, did you, did any of the guys acknowledge you? Yeah, yeah.

LeBron said, what's up? LeBron said, what's up? Joel said, hello. Pat Bev, Pat Bev came over and said something to me. D'Angelo Russell came over and hollered at me. So AD, AD gave me the ad because he was sitting at the, he was sitting at the free throw line.

He couldn't actually come over, but they, they did acknowledge me. That was a pretty dope feeling. One of the head coaches, the assistant coach, I can't remember his name. From the Lakers? Yeah, from the Lakers.

He almost looked like Coutinho Mobley, but it ain't Coutinho Mobley because he didn't have the beard. Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he came, but we talked for a little bit.

Do you know how many people in that stadium I was walking through said, man, we love watching you and Ung. What you and Ung do. D'Angelo Russell mentioned the same thing, but what you and Ung doing, man, is special, man. I love watching y'all, as did the coach. Coach said, man, you got to come on down here to L.A., you know, and come check us out.

I said, coach, I love you, baby, but have you seen the prices for the courtside seats in L.A.? He said, you ain't even got to come to a game. Come holidays at practice. Come watch a practice. Come and kick it. I say, you know what? When I come out to L.A., I'm going to make sure I'm going to hold you to that.

Yeah. Hey, Patrick Woolley asked, hey, Uncle Nocho, you guys said you wouldn't mind trying different cuisine. But have y'all had escargot? You know what escargot is? Who? Escargot. Like snails. Cargo?

Escargot. Snails. You know, when you was a kid and they had them in the aquarium? Yeah, those. You talking about snails, like when it rain and snails be going by the drive

through when they leave the little slippery little slime yeah wait wait come back to me now you can eat those

yes you can there's a certain type of snail I'm assuming because there's so many different species of snails yes yes yes

no they can eat those huh they can eat those I ain't eating no snail I don't want no snail whoa can eat those. Huh? They can eat those. I ain't eating no snail. I don't want no snail, man. Whoa, you eat pig feet? Yeah.

Raccoon soup? Yeah. I ain't never had no raccoon soup. The raccoon that I've had was baked. It wasn't no soup, Ojo. It was just baked. It was baked. Either baked.

You eat baked raccoon. That make it any goddamn better? Barbecue. Does that make it any better? But you won't eat snail. No. Once you cross the line, you might as well just eat every goddamn thing, honestly. No, no, no, no. Whoa, whoa, Ocho.

You on your own now. You on your own. You already do. I already know what you would do. You already told me about the toes. Yeah, daddy, but the toes is the bare goddamn minimum. Hey, Ocho. That's the toes is the bare minimum. O Hey, that's the bare minimum. Ocho, a slip of the tongue ain't nobody's fault.

I'm just saying that ain't got nothing to do with me now. I'm just saying, Ocho, a slip of the tongue ain't nobody's fault. You can't do that. Again, I'm not going to say it. I'm sure that people are tired of me saying it. But right now, you of age, and you're going to have to live a little bit. You ain't living. You alive, but you ain't living.

We're going to get you together, though. I'm going to work with you. Ocho, I ain't going to let you put these batteries in my back. You ain't fit to do that to me. You lying to me. I ain't going for that. But you know what, Ocho? We had a conversation about

Meg D'Estaia last night. No, no, no. This one lady, she had something written talking about, you know, you two grown men and y'all are famous and you guys have daughters. How would you feel if somebody said that about them? I was thinking how I

feel. People gonna say it regardless. Y'all make it seem like if I don't say something, that means that's going to shield my daughter or my daughters from men saying things or men approaching them.

Wait, you didn't say anything wrong or disrespectful, though, huh? You were just giving her praises, though, huh? Ocho, you know how people are, Ocho. So she said,

do you know that sexual harassment? I'm like, I'm sexual. So now I'm sexually harassing Magda Stallion? I said, that's what y'all, that's where we at now. I mean, seriously, do you know that sexual harassment I'm like I'm so now I'm sexual harassing Magna Stadia I said that's what y'all said that's what y'all that's where we at now I remember seriously that's where we at and you see Ocho

now you understand why I don't ride the elevator with single women don't you now you see why I don't hold the door for women you see because the first thing they're going to say he held the door to look at my butt the first thing they're going to do he made me feel door to look at my butt. The first thing they're going to do, he made me feel uncomfortable. Now you see, Ocho, how wide like I am.

How in the hell did someone even pull that out the air when it was more so? How do you not understand the analogy and the manner in which in what you said had nothing to do with that and being in a disrespectful way, but more giving props to who she is. And like, how do you, how do you even mess that up? They was talking about last night when you and I, when I was out, I said it in jest. And so, you know, exactly in jest, everybody gets that. Everybody understands that. How could you not? No, Eljo, sometimes, listen, this is what we know.

You and I are both heavily involved on social media. A lot of times people come to social media just to get upset. Right. Or to have something to be mad about. Have something to complain about. So, noted, Ocho and I do a better job of filtering our conversation. Nah, we can't filter, because that's what makes us special, man.

That's what makes us special and a little different. Hey, listen, us being ourselves is what makes us unique. You know, the chemistry and the fun and the analogies and the jokes and the analogies and the jokes and, you know, the pandering

and the people that are watching and subscribing and understanding that we are not being, nothing we say is with ill intent. It's all about fun and entertainment. This is why we're on digital. We're on YouTube.

We understand that we couldn't take what we say to linear television. And that's okay. I am completely fine with this platform. This is ours. Yes. This is ours. Yeah.

And so, and I think the thing is, is that people have waited for so long for someone that's in our position that talks like them, that sounds like them, that looks like them. And so, and a lot of, a lot of, look, when you and I have conversations, Ocho, yeah, they're like, okay, yeah.

A lot of times when I tell stories and I use phrases, they've never heard those before. A lot of these, a lot of these phrases, I heard me say this back when I was, I was a kid and a lot, a lot of times I'm trying times, I'm trying to come up with phrases, but that will resonate. And people are like, okay. A lot of people that's gone to college, and you know you're not washing laundry on a regular basis. So, you throw the laundry in the corner, and the laundry is piled high. So, when I say somebody is stacked like dirty laundry in the dorm room, it resonates. I can see that because when I was in school, that's what I did. I just threw the laundry in the corner room. Yeah. It like, yeah, I can see that. Cause I remember when I was in school,

that was what I did. I just threw the laundry in the corner and it got hot. But you know, like I said, Ocho, everybody is not going to be pleased or happy with the way we talk or the way we say things. Right. And so I'll take note of that.

I ain't changing, but I do hear you. I, I'm not taking note either, but if, if you are watching, whether you love us, whether you don't, any celebs or famous people that we talk about, I love you. I hear you. I'm not taking note either, but if you are watching, whether you love us, whether you don't,

any celebs or famous people that we talk about, I love you. I love you. Some of you probably don't even like me. I love you. I tell you what, if Meg had a problem with anything that I've said, if she feels offended or slighted by anything that I said,

let me take the time to say I'm sorry. I apologize. And we love you. Yes. And we love you because I got needs just like you. Let me show you. Hold on.

Let me show you my Meg needs. Let me show you. I got needs just like Meg. My bad. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I can't get down there like that because I ain't getting up.

The only time I squat like that is to sit in the car. Ain't no squat down there to get like that. My knees ain't that good. And then with two repaired hips? Oh, no. Walter was Jones ass. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I hurt my knee. Hold on, two repaired hips? Oh, no. Walter was Jones-ass.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I hurt my knee. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. I hurt my knee. Hold on. Okay. Keep on thinking you young now. You ain't like O'Shea. O'Shea clip a dip quick. See? I'm flexible, Ocho. Alright.

Okay. Keep on trying to keep on talking about I'm old. Ocho. All right. Okay. Mm-hmm. You keep on trying to keep on talking about I'm old. They be talking about, oh, okay. Ain't nothing old but old clothes. No, the chair narrow. The chair narrow. Mm-hmm.

Walter Jones said, Uncle Ocho, love what you're doing. Keep the dope content rolling. Question for both B-O-A-F. Y'all, if you could have a conversation with your rookie selves what would you say that's a good question if i could have a conversation with my rookie self yep i wouldn't change nothing nope i wouldn't change nothing no i'm just i'm just being honest i wouldn't change nothing. I had a time. I had a great time, obviously confidence. It was a rollercoaster of ups and downs that didn't let affect me as far as the losing goes in Cincinnati. I always promised myself

that if it was always going to be a storm in Cincinnati throughout those bad years, there was going to be one light shining. There was going to be one light shining come hell or high water and that was me. I was going to make the game entertaining and fun and respectable for fans that were in that city and i did just that but at my rookie self i wouldn't take nothing back i do everything the exact same way and add

some to it yeah i'm not the exact same mojo i think anybody that that ever that played with me and saw that i was as serious as they come about the game of football. I mean, you see how I live my life now. So you can imagine what it's like because that was my first and foremost goal was to play in the National Football League. Right. And so, like, nothing else mattered. I wasn't there to meet friends. And if you couldn't help me win, if you weren't going to prepare to win,

I ain't have time for yo, Joe. I didn't. That's how I am. And I'm to this way. That's my brand. My brand is hard work because that's the way Mary and Barney Porter raised us.

Hard work. And I'm not saying hard work. Hard work doesn't, listen to me, people. Hard work doesn't guarantee you anything but without it you got no chance yeah yeah you got no chance that's a good and so that was my mindset i got there and my brother says i don't know how much you're gonna play but just work hard and say when johnny when johnny will come to you and call your number be ready i was I was ready. That's what I tell guys.

Hey, coach used to say, hey, don't cut yourself. Let me do that. Know what you're supposed to do. Know what you're supposed to do and give me everything you got. He said, even if you make a mistake, we can't correct the mistake. We can't correct that effort now. Make sure you make that mistake, we can't correct the mistake. We can't correct that effort now. Make sure you make that mistake on full speed. A hundred miles an hour,

Ocho. A hundred miles an hour. And I had an old school coach in Dan Reeves who played for Coach Landry. He played for him. He coached up under. Man, Ocho, you know, I made the Broncos basically because of special teams

I was hell man we played the Raiders now obviously they see all the the training camp stuff right the preseason game hell I'm making

all the tackles so what do you think they do to me they double me I knew you were going to say that double I bet you split

that shit right up Ocho Ocho you know I didn't know any I didn't know any better. Ocho, I thought, okay, once I get double, I can just tell the coaches they doubled me, and it was good.

Right. Coach Reed called me to his office. Put the tape on. They doubled me. He said, that's not good enough. That's not good enough. He said, I've seen you beat double teams he said

you know we still cut players during the season say no more fam say no more fam you ain't got to say no more to me he never had he never had that conversation he never had another conversation

with me again I tell you what, that next week... Double who? What? Double mint. Ocho, but see, back then, see, now, they don't let you line up. You can't go until the kicker kicks the ball.

Back when I played Ocho, I got 15 yards. And when I hit that line, by the time that front line turned the block, I shoved him to the ground. I'm back there, Ocho. Hey, I'm back there. I'm back there.

And all I'm trying to do, and it was me, Al Montgomery, Lilo Lang, and a dude named Raleigh Halliburton. And I just say, we know kind of which way the return was going to go. I said, all I'm asking you to do to make him check his feet

because I'm coming with that ear hole shot. Right. Oh, Joe, I'm trying to get, look, I ain't trying to put you out for the season.

Right. But if I could knock one of them, Mel Gray or Tim Brown or one of them good ass returners, Eric Metcalf. Eric Metcalf. Eric Metcalf.

When you were the Falcons or Cleveland? Cleveland. Cleveland. I got to be Cleveland. You was a real deal. Real deal. And I was a gunner on putt. Hey, they couldn't double me on putt now.

They couldn't double me on putt. I put that thing like the Incredible Hulk. Bigger ball put him down. Bigger ball put him down. Yeah. But so that's what made me that's why Ocho if you notice I don't make excuses because my grandmother and grandfather

never gave me that opportunity to make an excuse either you did or you didn't I don't need to hear why I just need to know you did it my coaches Coach Reese, Mike, never gave me an opportunity to make it. He's like, hey,

he's like, 84, do you know who you are? I don't care. I don't care who they put on you. I got my money on you. To hear him say that, to hear number seven say, hey, I'm coming to you.

Man. Hey, that's a good feeling, too. Well, that's a good feeling. Y'all didn't follow? See, Ocho, people won't do right because they're still trying to spam Teddy Bear. They just won't do right.

See, Ocho, I don't know. I don't know how we have a contest without people, you know, they just won't do right. See, I don't know. I don't know how we have a contest without people without, you know, they just won't do right. Wait, I don't understand. What do you mean they spam? You said not the spam. You said teddy bear in the Instagram. But they still doing it.

They still doing it. So we're going to have to, you know, we're going to probably have to go to YouTube and ask them, what's the way that we can have a contest? And actually, because it's so many people, we can minimize it when it's only five. Right.

Or maybe 10. But when you start getting 40... Right. You can see the problems that we're running into. What if we just make less people? Hold on, hold on. Okay. So what we're going to do, we're going to go back through the logs,

and we're going to manually, to avoid another little tank situation, we're going to go back and pick 40 winners from the 60 seconds after the announcement. We're going to go back and pick 40 winners from the 60 seconds after the announcement. So and we'll reach out to the 40 winners tonight and post the final list of the 40 winners tomorrow on Instagram on Instagram in the morning. That's what we're going to do because y'all won't do right. We try, but y'all won't do right. So since y'all won't do right, we're going to do right. But now you just make it, you just, I mean, when people do stuff like this, Ocho, it makes you not want to do anything else. Yeah, I mean, I can understand.

Obviously, I'm putting myself in their shoes. I'm seeing it from their lens and understanding and wanting to win and having the opportunity to win. and understanding and wanting to win and having the opportunity to win. But obviously on our end, I understand your frustrations, obviously, and wanting to give back and give people the opportunity to win. But it's hard because the first thing you said

before we even started the giveaway was you said, listen. The key word, listen. To make it easy. And no spamming. And what a guy, what a nigga do. I know it's hard. It's hard.

It's hard. I love y'all do? I know it's hard. It's hard. It's hard. I love y'all, though. I love y'all. Unculture J. That's one thing about Unculture J. He be asking me questions. He be in here. Hey, Unc, I'm getting Invisalign installed tomorrow.

What kind of dinner work did you get done? And what has it done for you physically or mentally? You know your boy. You know, I get that. Man, look here. Ocho, I've always said, I said now,

if I ever were to come into some money, I'm going to get my teeth fixed. I'm going to get, you know, I ain't going to be all in people's face, cheesing and peesing and they got me out here looking like the Cavity Creek. I ain't going to have no rotten teeth. I ain't finna be all in people's face Cheesing and peesing And got me out here looking like the Cavity Creek I ain't gonna have no rotten teeth I ain't gonna have no teeth missing I'm gonna get my teeth fixed

And so I'm very self-conscious about my teeth I go through a tube of toothpaste A week Damn, a week? A week I brush my teeth on average about somewhere between seven and ten times

a day. God damn, Unc, that's like the little cartoon characters, man. I brush my teeth two times before I leave the house in the morning to go to do first take. What? I brush my teeth before I go down to eat breakfast. I go back upstairs and brush my teeth again. As Ash, I get to work,

I go to the bathroom and brush my teeth again. As Ash, I get to work, I go to the bathroom and brush my teeth again. So I brush my teeth three times before I go on air. I come home, I eat, I brush my teeth again. I'll take a 30-minute nap, I get up, I'll brush my teeth before I go to the gym. I come home, I'll brush my teeth again. You're doing, that's enough goddamn brushing. How many goddamn toothbrushes

you go through now? That's a little too much. I go through, I go through, I change my toothbrush every two weeks. Every, you know how much

toothbrush is cautious to how you go through it every two weeks? I do. Yeah, I go through. Hey, Oral-B, kick your boy up. I need a deal.

Man, listen. I go through Oral-B 60 soft. That's the one I use. I go through Orbeez 60 soft. That's the one I use. I go through, I change my toothbrush every two weeks. Man, you tripping. Baby, how often I change my toothbrush?

Man, that thing probably all the way down. Look, you've been scrubbing tires with it. Shit, probably. Yeah, she changed my toothbrush. I ain't got time for all that. I go through like, I go through a big thing, a Listerine. Yeah. Every two weeks. I ain't got time for all that I go through like I go through a big thing A Listerine

Yeah, okay Every two weeks I'm with you on that Now, what I do do What I do do Obviously, because I smoke cigars I don't brush as often as you do But after I smoke

Then I'll brush Yeah I can't come in the house I can't kiss my kids I can't kiss my baby Obviously, I don't have no animals So, I ain't kissing no animals But I always brush then Yeah Let me think What else? What else? I can't kiss my kids. I can't kiss my baby. Obviously, I don't have no animals, so I ain't kissing no animals,

but I always brush then. Let me think. What else? What else? That's pretty much it. You are a little bit excessive with yours. I am. You're a little bit excessive.

Obviously, I do the normal routine. You know, you get up in the morning, you wash your face, you brush your teeth, you eat breakfast. And sometimes, listen, I hate to say this, people might be like, man, you crazy, you tripping. Sometimes when you brush your teeth, you eat breakfast. And sometimes, listen, I hate to say this, people might be like,

man, you crazy, you tripping. Sometimes, when you brush your teeth in the morning before breakfast, the toothpaste, it throws off the taste of your goddamn food. I don't know if anybody agree with me with that. It's happened to me a few times where shit don't even taste the same because you got that minty taste in your mouth and the Listerine in your mouth and you're going to eat and shit

don't even taste the same. Yeah, it don't even taste the same. But that's just, that's just, yeah, it don't taste the same when your breath smell like everybody passed gas in the world at once.

God damn. That's bad. God damn. But that, that's, boy, that's bad. That's my biggest,

that's my biggest fear. Yeah. If someone were to tell me my breath stink. Your mind stink? Yeah, man. Like house party? Like house party? Like dragon?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I keep, I keep, I keep, I keep Listerine tablets. I keep, you know, like I said, I brush my teeth probably about, I say on average about eight times a day. Damn. But you know what's funny? Now that you mentioned it, because you know, like I said, I brush my teeth probably about, I say on average about eight times a day. Damn, but you know what's funny? Now that you mentioned it, because you know I smoke cigars.

I smoke two or three cigars a day. Now, me and this one here behind me, when we first met, obviously, to your case and point of not wanting anybody to say, you know, you got a little, you know, you're a little tart, you know, your breast... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, the fact that I smoke cigars so much, what I always did is when we first met,

in the corners of my mouth, I always had two peppermints. I always had two peppermints. So even if I am smoking and we're conversing, it still smells minty or that peppermint, you know, smell when I do talk. Now, we four years in, shit, I don't even care.

I don't even care no more. Yeah. I done got you now. I'm good. Yeah, yeah. I can care. I don't even care no more. Yeah. Yeah, shit, I done got you now. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I can't, I can't. They, they like, you know, it's, and that's what everybody, everybody says the same thing.

Right. You good, you know, you, I just, it's, it's an obsession now. So now, this is the funny thing. If you have this obsession, and it's very, what I consider consider and I'm sure other people in the chat would consider very excessive what about the woman that you're dealing with does she also have to take after you know doing no no no I let them I let them you know that's just me but I

think apart but they do probably brush their teeth a little more than they normally would if they're around me right because like I said I brush my teeth I leave the house at 6 a.m. I brush their teeth a little more than they normally would if they're around me. Because like I said, I brush my teeth. I leave the house at 6 a.m. I brush my teeth twice. And then by the time I go home... Before you even leave? Twice. Before I eat and after I eat. And then I brush my teeth again when I get to work.

God. You ain't... I know my sister. My sister say, Shannon, ain't that much brushing in the world. So you go brush. See, I don't know what color your teeth are underneath, but we should know by now because you don't brush the white off them. Hey, boy, that's crazy.

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I'm a perfectionist. I'm a neat freak. Right. Oh, so you got OCD. You got that. I do. Ocho. Ocho, I vacuum my kitchen.

I wipe down my plate. I spray Lysol. You vacuum the kitchen? Vacuum the kitchen. I Lysol wipe. I know you got tile in the kitchen. Why are you using the vacuum on tile? You spill the mop.

But just in case. Just in case I used to, I used to, I used to, but see what I used to do. Oh, Joe, I did. I did break this habit. Right. I used to vacuum. And then I would swiffer it. Ah, yeah, I got to swivel. So I was like, man, I say, I think maybe I said, man, maybe I'm doing too much, but I wiped out. I wiped out all the countertops. I washed the dog's bowl out, make sure they don't have any food left in their bowls.

I picked their stuff, you know, I just, I don't want rats, I don't want bugs. Right. I don't want any of that stuff coming into the house.

You know, I hang up all the towels, everything is hung up nice and neat. You know, everything is situated. Yeah. I know,

I know, but I can't help it now. You know, I like that and see, I get to a point where I have to, where it clicks in or I get into that mood of remember when I had to do chores, you know, you had to do chores

when you was a little kid. Yes. I let stuff, and I'm going to be honest with you, you know, with the people at home, I don't care what you think about me. I let it get bad. You know, I let it get bad before I actually get to the point where,

okay, you know what? This is enough. I can't find what I'm looking for. Let me clean this up. Okay, the towels are piled up now. Okay, you know what? It's time to wash. Oh, no.

Yeah, I'm the complete opposite. It got to get a little out of hand. I can't leave anything on the floor. I can't leave anything on the floor, Ocho. I can't leave socks on the floor. I can't leave socks on the floor. I can't leave anything. Oh, boy.

Boy, you're happy. Boy, you're walking my place and be like, man, shit, what the hell you got going? My shit like a dorm room. My shit like a goddamn dorm room until I feel like, you know what? Okay, enough is enough. If one of them Saturdays click in and I get in that mood, I put

on some music, I put on some Sinatra, open the blinds and just get to cleaning myself. Oh, I do. I do mood. I put on some music. I put on some Sinatra. Open the blinds and just get to cleaning up, get to cleaning myself. Oh, I do. I do that. I mean, sometimes I go through, like, I turn on some music.

I start listening to old school stuff. And then I'll just, I'll clean by, you know, go through all the drawers, straighten everything up. I'm a clean guy. And anytime you hear like, okay, he cleaning.

He cleaning. And my kids, my kids know. They don't, they... I'm a senior pitcher. I'm a to, and anytime you're like, okay, he clean it. He clean it. And my kids, my kids know. They don't. I'm going to send you a picture. I'm going to send you a picture. I can't even get in my closet. Oh, no. I can't even get it.

I can't even get in my closet. So when I open the door, I got to squeeze through the door because there's so many clothes that people have given me and sent for me to wear. And I don't go nowhere. that people have given me and sent for me to wear, and I don't go nowhere. And it's so much to the point to where everything is hung up in the closet, but I can't open the door because there's so much stuff in the middle of my damn closet. I kid you not.

I kid you not. And I'm stuck, and I just haven't gotten that mood yet. You know what? I need to sit down on a Saturday, start in the morning, and go through the whole house. on a Saturday, start in the morning, and go through the whole house. And, you know, but to answer

your question physically, it gives you great confidence that you know that people, oh, you have a great smile. Oh, you have pretty teeth. Things like that. I mean, it gives you... Oh, Joe, I talk for a living. People looking in my mouth

two, three hours a day. Yeah. I can't, I mean, and a lot of times I'm in people's face. Man, man, man, whoo. That joker breath smell like get back. You know what I'm saying? It smell like a bucket of chinstrap. Right.

I can't have that, Ocho. Yeah. So it kind of happened. And look, I remember growing up, we had to cut, remember how you had to cut the toothpaste, Ocho? You just ain't throw the tube away. You had to cut it in half and just stick your toothbrush down in there and get it.

Or we run out of toothpaste and granny ain't gonna have no money until payday. We got to use baking soda. So I've always said, man, Ocho, my executive assistant, she'll buy 32 42 of the toothpaste

at a time god damn she'll buy she'll buy 15 of those big things of a Listerine

right she'll buy this mouth rinse she'll buy 20 of those so you be killing Costco what y'all got Costco or Sam's idea

well they got both of them I go to Target so right now I got 25 toothbrushes Ocho let me tell you what I did you know what I did Ocho they had a sale on deodorant wait what you use it's so many different

brands I've used the same deodorant since 1986. Mitchum. Mitchum? Mitchum. Man, that's the old Mitchum. Remember the movie Cocoon? Yeah, the old man was using Mitchum and Cocoon.

Boy, that's back in the 80s. 86. They had it on sale one time, Ocho? Yeah, how many you bought? 35. 35. Ocho, if it's something like I use, and it go on sale, I get it.

Yeah, matter of fact, I, oh, I get it. Yeah. Matter of fact, I can, you know, I'm sitting here laughing at you. You talk about how you bought 35. You know what I buy a lot of? What at? What I shop with

and what I use on my face. If people see me in person and the first line they say, you have no blemishes and your skin is clear. What's your facial, what's the word? Routine.

Routine. I tell them the lie. I ain't got no facial routine. I use fair and white black soap from the beauty supply store in the hood. If the hood runs out of the fair and white black soap that I use, I have my baby ordered off Amazon. What I shower with, what I've been showering with for years, even when I was in the league, I used Dial Cranberry Bar Soap. I don't know what it is. I have an obsession

with that Dial Cranberry Black Soap. Matter of fact, hold on, hold on. Baby, do me a favor, baby. Oh, you can't? Okay, don't worry about it. I have my soap right there on me, too. Ocho, you know what? I was one of the first ones. I used to, I was one of the first ones. I used to,

I was one of the reasons why they started, like, y'all probably have hand towels now. Right. We had hand towels then. You like the loofah? I hate that loofah shit. No, I used to cut the towels up.

Ocho, I started doing this in college. Ocho, you remember, like, you had community showers, so the showers right there, you next to each other. Right. Bro, how you gonna hand somebody the soap, the bar soap,

you just took it out your booty cheeks? And think I'm about to wash my face, and I'm about to wash my body, and you just took the soap out your booty? Oh, no. Oh, no way, Jose. Hey, but listen, what I did, obviously, I was one of the few players that had bar soap

so nobody was asked to use my soap but all the rest of my teammates back then when I was playing it was some type of peppermint soap in the not peppermint soap yeah in the cylinder the liquid

and when you shower with it it make your body tingle or some shit and everybody was using that everybody was using that nah see yeah I don't like that I brought my own I like my boss soap

I started I brought my own I brought my own Used my own Nobody asked to borrow it I ain't letting no Ocho You think I'm finna let you

Wash your pubic hair And your butt With my soap And you gonna put it back In my soap dish Oh so you didn't use the liquid The uh I brought my own

So your teammates be Your teammates they ask for it? They get it all the time. I'm not letting you use my bar soap and you put it in your butt. Oh, you're saying bar soap. Okay, you have bar soap. I thought you had the liquid. I thought you had the liquid. But I

ended up getting the shower gel. I don't care about the shower gel. But when I had the bar soap, you know, guys back there, they soaping it up and, hey, don't let me get that. No, I'm good, good. You keep it. Man, you got pubic hair all on the soap. And did you think I was going to put it back in my dish?

And I'm going to wash my face and it just came out your hand. Oh, no, I can't do that, man. Ocho, you know I'm telling the truth. That's why you laughing. I said, oh, no, dog. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. They like why you laughing. I said, oh, no, dog. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Hey.

Boy. Hey, boy, them's some memories, boy. Boy, them's some memories. What about shower shoes? You have anybody ever tried to put on your shower shoes? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I never go in there. Bro, I never understood that. How guys would go in the bathroom. Barefoot. Barefoot.

Guys peeing on the floor. And you watch guys pee in the shower. And you walk in. I said, come on, dude. And y'all really think I'm about to come over to... I said, man, I put shoes on to go into your house, let alone take your shoes off. Oh, no.

As a matter of fact, I just bought a new pair of Timbs to come to your house. I'm wearing Timbs at your house. Hey, listen, that locker room, man, that shower, man, is hilarious. Ocho, there was a picture of me, it was

today, is that like when I broke the record, you know, I had the Gatorade bottle. I saw you, I saw you drinking it, you had 12 for 214, something like that, right? And my lips, and people like, your lips are on the bottle. I saw you. I saw you. I saw you drinking it. You had 12 for $2.14, something like that, right? And my lips, and people like, your lips are on the bottle.

Ocho, you better tell people we used to drink out the same cup. Yeah. I mean, hey, dog, let me get a swig of that. And you didn't think anything about it. I know, yeah. Until I found out

what y'all was doing behind closed doors. I had to stop that. Well, you didn't know what people was doing behind closed doors? I didn't. Not to the extent. Yeah, well, shit. You know, because we came stop that. Well, you didn't know what people was doing behind closed doors? I didn't. Not to the extent.

Yeah, well, shit. You know, because we came up in the era and I ain't saying guys didn't do that, but guys didn't brag about it. Right, right. It's a little different. Yeah! Yeah, it's a little different. Listen, from the toe to the rooter

to the tooter. You don't do that? Slip of the tongue ain't nobody's fault. You right around the corner, man, we'll drop in. Oh, no, Ocho. Oh, no, Ocho. Oh, no, no, no, no. Listen, we going to get you.

It's only been two months. We going to work on you. We going to get you. You know, Ocho, you know, back in the day, hey, bro, let your boy get a bite of that. Okay, here you go. Yeah. And I found out what they was that. Okay, here you go. Yeah. And I found out what they was doing. I threw the whole sandwich away.

I threw my whole meal away. You done took a bite of that? Oh, no. In the trash and go, I ain't even hungry no more. Hey, I'm like, who was that in life? No, I don't even want that. I had to look at that. I lost my appetite.

After you done took a bite of mine? Yeah. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Hey, you got to live a little bit, man. You got to live a bite of mine? Yeah. You gotta live a little bit, man. I ain't living to do. So that's what stopped me right there, Ocho. You know, back in the day, I grew up in...

Hey, man, Shaw, give me a swig of that. Here you go, bro. And then I found out what they were doing, Ocho. Nah. But see, my grandfather used to do that. He's like, we buy? Nah. That's how my, but see, my grandfather used to do that. He's like, we buy soda. He's like, oh, here you go.

Hey, let your papa knock the poison off of it. Boop, boop, boop. And now we get half the soda back. Yeah, that's the poison. He's not knocking the poison. That was that much poison in there? Yeah. It wasn't that much poison in there, papa.

But you know, Ocho, y'all a different breed now these new cats they new they different they different I mean listen I mean

what you gotta do is you gotta understand Uncle as we evolve you know as technology advances we have to advance as well

as humans hey hold on hold on before you go anybody that's DMing Ash about the giveaway will also be discused

I'm the only person that can that can DM Ash she does everything that she possibly can not to get caught on camera and we pull the camera out I ain't never seen somebody hey she could outrun Sha'Carri Richardson hey man you put

that goddamn camera out on Ash! Joy, don't you do it, Joy! Ash, go. You know Abby Stein, the fast white girl from America? Hey, boy, she could go now. I bet you we pulled the camera out, I bet your ass beat in a 50. I bet

Ash beat in a 50. So, Juliana Howard asked, do you think it's hard to get into the NFL now or was it harder to get in when you guys were there? Well, probably it's a little easier now

because here's the thing, Ocho. They got 20 practice squad guys. Oh, yeah. You're in the NFL. If you're on the practice squad, you're in the NFL. You get the NFL checks If you're on the practice squad, you're in the NFL. Yeah. You get the NFL checks. Good money too.

Oh, good money. Them Jokers making, they making more money on the practice squad than what I made in the league. And I was playing. That's good money. Good money. Good money. I made 63.5 my rookie year. I got my first check.

I cashed the whole check. Went to the bank, cashed the whole check, laid it out on my bed. God, don't make it sticky. Woo, look at that money. I ain't never seen so many $100 bills.

Good God, look at that money. I cashed that money. I cashed that money. I cashed that money. You remember I told you, Ocho, I used to get my check. They sent me my check. I got my check all the way to $20,000.

You went up there and got it yourself, huh? Yeah. Dude named Alex. I'll never check all the way to Twitter. You went up there and got it yourself, huh? Yeah. A dude named Alex. I'll never forget. That was the guy in Payroll. Hey, I built that thing early. Alex, I know you in there.

Open up. Let me get that. Let me get that there. Went and got my check. Cashed that thing. Laid it out on the bed. I ain't never seen so much money in my life, Ojo. I'm like, ooh, my goodness.

What you did with it? You kept it? Or you just... I just wanted to see what like... I think my check was like... Because we got paid in Denver. We got paid on the 1st and the 15th.

So we got paid twice a month. Baltimore, I think we got paid weekly. Yeah, we got paid weekly too. In Denver, we got paid twice a month. I think my check, because you got to understand, $63,500 divided up into like nine weeks. So it was like $4,000, $4,800.

Like maybe, yeah, something like that. I was like... I always thought about... I always thought about speak, speaking of checks, I always thought about people that take being in the NFL for granted. You know, sometimes you get second chances. Sometimes you don't, sometimes people get three and four and five chances. And then I think back and I look and I try to think of all the jobs that are in the world, all the things that you can do in the world

that can bring in that kind of income weekly. That can bring in that kind of income weekly. And it's like, I want to talk to some of the dudes sometimes that are continuously having problems or issues, whether it be on the field, whether it be off the field.

Yeah, yeah. I just want to sit down and talk to them. I bro you don't understand you done worked for this man since you was your whole life your whole life when you finally get here this is what you want to do sometimes sometimes some of us don't get no second chance sometimes we don't get no second chance. So I see some of these dudes sometimes, like, well, you're playing. You're playing with your childhood dream.

Yeah. You're taking shit for granted now. When it's gone, it's over. It's over. It's over. And I tell guys the same thing, Ocho, you got an opportunity to make 20 50 100 200 million

and you're gonna mess it up to do what why you know that ain't maybe maybe let that person i hate this is what i hate when people that are not in that situation or don't have been in that situation, man, let that man live his life. Do you realize what you're saying? Do you really sound, do you understand how dumb you sound? Knowing that you wouldn't mess that situation up. Who said, oh, let that man live his life

and mess up 200 million, mess up $300 million? Really? Yeah. How about this? How about get that 300 million? Once you get that 300 million dollars really yeah how about this how about get that 300 million once you get that 300 million if you want to act a d-fool have at it but not before you get that money money right right so crazy sometimes they need to let us out sometimes they need to let me come to rookie orientation but that's another story. Dan Perkinson asked,

Hey, Oh, that shade hit differently. Hey, that shade by the 48. That thing good. And it, Oh,

Joe, what's your favorite cigar? Love the podcast. Y'all done took over late night. Love you guys. What's your favorite cigar? Oh, Oh Joe.

Uh, my favorite cigar is obviously mine. Uh, the Boa Vita, the Boa Vita, very smooth. Um, yeah, the Boa Vita would probably be my favorite favorite my second favorite would probably be lunatic lunatic cigar 70 gauge i really like it it's

almost real short almost almost another a little peppery a little strong but it's my second favorite and my third would be the andalusian bull the andalusian Bull. The Andalusian Bull, I think it might have been Cigar of the Year 2015, maybe. And those are my top three. Obviously, my cigar is my favorite. And those are my top three. Well, you ain't sent me no cigars, so I don't know what my favorite is. Well, you know what?

I've never seen you with a stick before. I've never seen you with a stick. I didn't even know you smoked. Now, do you? I've never seen you with a cigar,. I've never seen you with a stick. I didn't even know you smoked. Now, do you? I've never seen you with a cigar, man. I know you drink your cognac, your La Portia. How you say it?

I want to butcher it. La Portia? Yeah. Yeah, you got to say it. You got to say it like your friend, La Portia. Yeah. That ain't good.

Hey, hey, hey. That La Portia? Yeah. With a stick? Yeah. That thing hit. I don't drink. I ain't never had no alcohol.

Tell real. I'm going to say real about it. Real will tell you about it. Nah, she drank like a fish. Don't do that. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That thing, she drank like a fish. Smooth.

Oh, it's smooth? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because she get to stumbling. She get to stumbling and don't know where she at. I can't deal with that. Ocho, somebody got us a new, ooh, just a great question here. I'm interested to see how you're going to answer this. Okay.

Darius Allen asks, Unc'n Ocho, if you guys are starting a new franchise and your quarterback options are Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson, who you taking? Holy shit. Ooh! God damn, that's a good one. Let me take my goddamn glasses off for this one. Damn, that's a good one.

Ooh. You want me to go first? I mean, you can't go wrong either way you go. That's like asking me to choose between the musical taste, a listen to goddamn Beyonce, a listen to Rihanna. You know, both different styles, both phenomenal artists and what they do. But either way you go, is it a wrong answer? Right now?

You're telling me right now? This is my franchise right now. You're changing the question. No, he said, oh, he said, if you guys are starting a new franchise and your quarterback options are Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson, who are you taking? Right. I'm taking Jalen.

But you changed the question and said, like, right now, based on what they're doing right now. I'm taking Lamar. Okay, you starting the franchise. You got a franchise before or you got the franchise now? Right. I'm taking Jalen. I like Lamar.

I like Lamar I like Lamar I mean I like God damn I like both of them That is a difficult question That's difficult And you know what I think it also comes down to You line up 20 people and you ask them The same question is all based on Preference and who and what they like

I think the thing I think for me, Jalen built is a little bit more durable. He's a little bit more sturdy. Yeah. From the waist down, he's going to be able

to take the pounding a little bit more. Pause. Obviously. Pause. Okay. A man that can squat 600 pounds Ojo you know he's gonna be able

and so for me and having seen the progression that Jalen has made I'm gonna go Jalen I would go Jalen and Ojo and seeing man look here

that fourth quarter if you ain't up by 25, if you ain't up by two, three touchdowns. They coming back and winning. He coming. He coming back and winning. I like that. He coming. I like that.

I mean, it's not a bad choice, but obviously, I would probably lean towards Lamar Jackson. Lamar, okay. Yeah, and understanding what he can do. Obviously, he has developed himself into being now a pure pocket passer and only running when he needs to run. Obviously, they do have play designed for him to run and where he can be efficient with both his arm and legs. It makes him that much more dynamic and dangerous, you know, offensively. But again, there's nothing wrong with either one. Either one of you take,

you know, there's really no wrong answer. It's really based on preference. I love Jalen, but I just got, you know, based on the topic at hand and question at hand, I got to go with Lamar. Now, you know we had two choices. You know people are going to say,

well, Shannon hating on Lamar again and Ocho hating on Jalen. Nah, I didn't mean to hate that. That's why I said I love both. I ain't saying I love both. I got a choice. Okay, Ocho, you get burger or you get fried chicken. Just because I chose the burger doesn't mean I hate fried chicken.

And just because I chose fried chicken, now, Ocho, now you know those are my two favorites. Everybody always wants you to preface it bro that's because i like something doesn't mean i hate the other people understand listen to me what i'm saying just because i like one doesn't mean i dislike the other right that's why i like to make a disclaimer before I even say anything. So they can't even say about that, Ocho. But now you put a disclaimer on what? Because of people's feelings. That is what we do.

We don't do that, Ocho. Yeah. You say, hey, you said you would go with Lamar. Fine. I said I'm going with Jalen Hurts. I'm living with that. And then whatever ramifications come with that. But this notion, everybody automatically assumes

that if you, hey, I like the sunshine. What is it about the rain that you don't like? Bro, there's a time and a place for that. I like April showers. Right. But you know that's how it goes. Elijah Basalto.

Hey, Uncle Ocho. Y'all are some of the funnest guys I know. Who are some of the funnest guys in your locker room when you guys play? Jordan Palmer. Me. Check this out, Ocho. You know, I went to school with Red Grant.

Oh, Red. Red, funny. Comedian Red? Yeah. Boy, Grant. Oh, Red, Red, funny. Comedian Red? Yeah. Boy, that boy funny. Red, we all knew, we used to have talent shows. And Red and this other guy named Bernard Mack, we call him Mack, rest his soul.

He passed away several years ago. They would do the talent. But as far as just joining, I'm talking about just see something and just start bagging and have everybody because nobody see you, boy. Yeah. Me, it was me,

Pastor Ford, he was on, he was on First Take. The short guy with the suit. He's Ford. We used to call him Big Daddy. We had epic battles. Hey, I joined. Everybody. It got so bad, they team up on me. They go two, three against me. we had epic battles hey I joined everybody

it got so bad they team up on me they go two three against me but when it comes to just flat I'm talking about just flat out joining

couldn't nobody see me at Savannah State that's funny when I'm thinking my teammates that were really funny back then just naturally funny

Sean Smith Sean Smith you know one of the funniest dudes doesn't matter D. Lyman yeah you know, one of the funniest dudes. Doesn't matter. D-Lyman? Yeah,

you know Sean? Yeah, I think he went to the Chiefs. I know him from the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Sean. Sean is really funny.

Very, very, very funny. Justin Smith, he was our first round pick. I forgot what game from. Justin Smith was hilarious. He was very funny.

Yeah, he was very funny. And another person that was very funny that a lot of people wouldn't even know was Carson goddamn Palmer. Really? Carson had a fucking funny. He was very funny. He had a sense of humor.

And it was a little different. And it's not what you expected, especially coming from a quarterback. But him and his brother, Jordan Palmer, were funny. And that was cool. That was cool. But in Denver, it was kind of like me and Burns, me and Keith Burns. He's a special teams coach at Tennessee State now, one of my best friends. But he and I was just like, we bagging on everybody else.

So everybody always talk about, man, man, why don't y'all ever get on each other? No, no, no, don't worry about that. Don't worry about us getting on each other. But we gonna get on you. I'm gonna talk about you. Ocho, we would get on guys so bad with the outfit, come on, we make them come up out of it. We make them come up out of it.

We make them come up out of it, Ocho. For sure. When I was in college, Ocho, I used to run to the bus and you'll ask Bucket, ask anybody that was from 89 to 80, from basically when I was in college, I used to run to the bus and you ask a bucket, ask anybody that was from 89 to 80, from basically 87,

86, I was my freshman, I was a little chill. But from 87 to 89, I go get on the bus, I'd be already dressed because we had to wear shirt and tie, jacket.

Hey, I run, get to the bus, I want to see what everybody got on. I'm going to make them come up out of it. on hey listen but then with them with some days matter of fact the early days in Twitter went out when I was on the earlier days and on Twitter me look Duvall and Kevin Hart well we used to go at it back and forth with the jokes we man back. I'm sure that the tweets are still there,

obviously. Yeah. And then I used to have ribbon session or Jones in session. The people from New Orleans, man, me and the people from New Orleans, dude, I love I love them folks, man, especially my followers on Twitter. We used to go at it for hours on for hours tweeting, tweeting insults back and forth. Obviously, now you'd probably get suspended because some of the things we were saying, Oh, yeah, suspended because some of the things we were saying, but those were some of the best times on social media when everybody wasn't so sensitive.

Yes. And you could talk trash, you could say what you want to say and understand that it was just jokes. Now, man, everything is messed up. Matter of fact, speaking of comedians, you remember Messy Maya? Comedian, comedian, very, very, very funny person from New Orleans. Passed away a little while ago. Oh, did he? I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, man, he's so funny.

You know, we got all these dudes. We got Druski and Desi and all these guys. Oh, Desi Banks and Druski, yeah. You know all those guys that are funny right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen. A bubble dumb. Yeah, yeah.

If Messy my was alive that would have been the cream of the crop yeah yeah yeah country way yeah he would have he would have been the cream of the crop as far as you know being funny and creating creating creating content and and going around jonesing and ribbing people oh yeah and he was he was a legend but i've had a set of entertainment show but i could really do this entertainment show but i could be a comedian yeah hey you ever been on stage that shit that shit different it is as easy as it sound when you get up there in front of the crowd it's different right it's it's absolutely i'm more of a like i got jokes and see what I

a lot of times what I do Ocho I would say something because most of the things that you hear me say I've said it to my teammates 20-30 years ago and Ron Smith who's the wide receiver and we call him Puss

he's like y'all know he's been saying the same jokes y'all just never heard it right we heard we heard that 20 plus years ago when i was in when i was at savannah state saying the same thing so and what i would do what i do is i try it out right i try it out you know it's easy throw a little for somebody like that okay yeah a little material yeah right right i said okay i need to add something i need you know take something back little for something like that. Okay. Yeah. A little material. Yeah. Right, right. I said, okay, I need to add something. I need to, you know, take something back. A lot of, but I remember when I was

working at CBS, I'll never forget doing a PK, Pat Kerwin. So I would say things in production meetings. He says, you're not going to be able to say that and this he said but this format is not

for you he says you need to be somewhere where your full personality can be on display right i say he said what steve he said what steven a and what bayless does he said, what Steve and a, and what Bayless does. He said, that's the format you need to be in. Yeah. I said, you think, I say, you think so?

He said, yeah. He said, you, he said, with your knowledge, he says, you know,

everything, you know, stats about baseball, basketball, football, track and field, the Olympics, this,

that he said, your knowledge. And then you funny. He said your knowledge and then you funny. He said you can make anything funny. So PK, appreciate that because you told me what I should be doing a long time ago, even before I thought it was even a possibility.

That's live. SM asked, can Nightcap be live at Ocho's wedding? Hey, that's a good, baby. Baby. Man, she done fell asleep, man's a good... Bebe. Bebe. Man, she done fell asleep, man. God!

I like that. Man, she just... She don't take a sleep. She don't take a sleep in bed. She be taking NyQuil. She probably pregnant. Ain't no telling. Bebe.

God damn, Ocho. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Somebody just asked a question and said, can we do nightcap live from the wedding? Yeah, she said, yeah, she like that.

She like that? Yeah, she like that. Yeah, we could do that. Hey, that'd be live. That'd be a first, too. Rail must be, rail must be, rail must be working the graveyard shift. Because rail, every time I turn around,

rail be sleeping. Yeah, baby. Every time we turn around, you be sleeping. You got to get up early And go to Allentown Oh okay Check this out Pushpindergill Asks

What's your top five Eddie Murphy movies Of all time Number one Life for me Life Yeah Whoa

Over Harlem Nights I go Life Harlem Nights Nut I go Life, Harlem Nights, Nutty Professor. I go Norbit. Eddie got the 48 Hour. Eddie got the Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah.

He got some good ones. Listen, you forgot Golden Child? Golden Child, yeah. Man, Eddie got some good ones, man. Man, look here. I could watch Life, Hall of Nights, Nutty Professor. The first one.

You forgot Coming to America. Coming to America? Oh, yeah. Man, look here. Eddie had them bangers. Yeah. Eddie got some good ones. Yeah. Dreamgirls. Ooh, that's a good one. Dreamgirls, that's a good one. Eddie got some good ones. Yeah. Dream Girls. Ooh, that's a good one. Dream Girl, that's a good one.

That's a good one. That's a good one. But for me, I would go live, Harlem Nights, Coming to America. Mm-hmm. Now, after that, it's all preference. But I love Norbert, too. Hey, Rasmussen. Rasmussen didbert too. Hey, Rasmussen. Rasmussen did Norbert wrong.

Rasmussen did it. Rasmussen, you like skinny bitches, huh? I cry. I be crying watching Norbert. Rashawn Young asked, Huckanocho, what in life do you appreciate most I'd be crying watching watching Dora, but Rashawn Young asked, okay, no joke. What in life do you appreciate most? No matter,

not what matters most, what aspect of life do you appreciate and enjoy the most? Aspect of life. What aspect of life do I enjoy the most? You know, I think, I wonder can I say my freedom? My freedom.

I think that would be the best aspect that I enjoy the most. My freedom, my ability to go and do as I please. The beat, having free reign over my life, not having to help anybody, you know? My health. Being healthy, yes. Because you can't do nothing without that. Nothing.

Nothing without that. That's a good one. Health and my health to my freedom. Really, when it comes down to it, think about it. I saw the guy said, if somebody said, okay, I'll give you $10 million, but you have to die tomorrow. You taking it? No. For what? I'll give you $10 million, but you're going to lose your health. Would you take it no for what i give you 10 million dollars but you're gonna be

you're gonna lose your health would you take it oh no so when you see when you come down to it everybody think money of the end all be all but think about what you'd be willing to give money up for your health is number one because no matter how much money someone has they'll speak because even even the apple guy steve jobs said all the money i got when it comes right down to it it don't even what good is it it doesn't matter and so once you start thinking about that every morning that way before i even before i put my feet on the floor Joe I say God thank you for letting me open my eyes give me life health and strength the blood running warm in my veins

use my limbs and I'm in my right mind no matter what happens after that I can handle it yeah no matter all the money in the world don't do you no good if you ain't got no health what good is that what good is that

what good is that nothing so that's what that's what i appreciate the most what matters the most my family my friend my kids yeah yeah that's it that's all that's that's it yeah and they and they know that too they take advantage of me Ocho they be asking me for yeah they be asking me my youngest daughter tell my daddy you on the phone you know I ain't on no phone you know damn well

I wasn't on no phone I was sitting in the backyard watching the dogs go to the bathroom hey daddy you on the phone nah I ain't on the phone what's up I was wondering

what were you wondering well you know my car yeah what about it you know I had my car for a while and I was thinking about you know I had it since undergrad master's program now I think when I go into residency I don't think it's gonna so you thinking that huh

so I it seems like you thinking I'm about to get you another one huh would you what's in it for me am i gonna be am i gonna be able to drive it am i be able to have a key to it right hey that's a good one yeah i was like. I shouldn't have told that story because I'm sure her brother, her brother and her sister are going to be,

yeah, they're going to see it. They're going to double back. They're going to double back. Oh, I got a good joke for you. What you got for me? I got a good joke. Chad, I know you're all ready. You know, I'm a comedian now.

Yeah, yeah, sure. You all ready? You all listening? Yep. What do you call it? What do you call an ant who likes to be alone antelope no independent that's not like some joy would say that's how I like something Joel would say ash over your shake of the head oh my goodness

shout out to everyone that commented about the show and has helped us shout out to everyone that's commented about this show and helped us help y'all through depression and dark times recently those comments do not go unnoticed guys look when we put this show together we kind of didn't know.

We kind of knew what we wanted to do. We had no idea the kind of direction that it was going to go in. We were originally just going to talk about sports after game because normally when a sporting event ends, you got to wait 12, 14 hours before you actually get an in-depth analysis of what actually transpired. And I was like okay what if we did something to this you know sitting down with the team said what if we did something like this and so when we started talking about the game we 30 minutes and we've already talked about the game now what do we talk about right now we found out that talking about life stories

things that that's relatable to guys, you guys took a liking to that. And so we want to thank you because it's kind of you that kind of put us on a path to where the show is because when Nightcap was originally created, this is not

what we envisioned it to be. Not even the longest. But fortunately for Ocho and myself, is that he played the game at a high level. I played the game at a high level. I'm a little older than Ocho, and so I go back a little further, and I have

a few more stories than Ocho, but we're relatable. We're just like the family member, the uncle, the cousin that comes over. I'm the older uncle. He's the young uncle that come over and tell stories. You guys gravitate towards us because you don't know what's true and what's a lie. But all of it sounds good, so you want to hear it all.

Yeah. Everything I say is honest. It's just life experience. It's the God of the truth. all. Yeah. Everything I say is honest. You know, it's just life experience. That's it. It's the God on the truth. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people,

Ocho, man, you don't realize how many women I see out. And you know what they ask me? Yeah. Can I order the lobster?

I'm like, really? I said, y'all don't want to say hey I'm ordering you know I'm ordering lobster that was classic but that was one for the ages but that was one for the ages but yes

I think the fans I mean look in less than two months how long we've had this channel? Two months? Two months. Seven weeks. We've had this seven weeks.

Wait, it's only been seven weeks? Seven weeks we've had this channel. Because like the first month, we was filtering it through Club Shay Shay. And I just thought it could be big enough to support itself. And I wanted to give it the opportunity to support itself in C. And it took off. So we had 360,000 subs in seven weeks. Wait, we were just at 350.

How did we get to 360 that fast? Yeah, we had 360 now. I think 360. Damn. Actually, we did 36 now. I think 360. Damn. Actually, 361. 361, Ocho. Yeah.

Oh, but we gonna hit that million now. We gonna hit that million. Oh, we hit a million by January 1st. Well, we gotta get off that car. You paying the taxes.

That's fine. That's fine. If we get, listen, tell your people, tell your family, tell your homies, if we get to a million subs,

somebody get in the car. Yeah. And I got the taxes. One car. We ain't buying no car. We ain't buying no car for five, ten people or forty people.

One car. It's going to be a nice car too. Practical. Whoa. Oh, yeah, because I was going to say, let car too. Practical. Whoa. Oh, yeah. Because I was going to say, let's paraphrase that now. Something simple.

Something efficient. You can get from point A to point B. Yeah. You ain't getting no goddamn BMW and no Audi and nothing like that. Nah. Nah. Get you something nice. Yeah, something nice.

Something real nice. Like a Kia. A Kia is nice you seen the new kia's no yeah don't worry about it you could google it yeah or a honda boy hey the new honda is nice boy i don't know i don't know who is a part of their creative director program nobody does my daughter asked me for yeah i gotta check that out because he might be trying to pull a hokid check that out. She ain't putting an okey-doke. I don't know what the hell Kia has done

and I don't know what the hell Hyundai has done. But goddamn, they stuff look nice now. Damn, they shit. I'm talking about real good. You know, I'm a BMW guy myself. BMW? Yeah. BMW's cool They cool

Ocho Bro I'm 55 What you think I should be driving A Ferrari Man at 55 No a Ferrari is what you did When you were young You were in 20s

Exactly When you was playing Like at your age You supposed to Have like a A Cadillac You ought to have mine Nah you supposed to be driving

A Cadillac Or a Lincoln Or something I'm driving a Cadillac or a Lincoln or something I'm driving a BMW a M70 EV nah that ain't too long man that is me get you a Cadillac get you a Lincoln what else you

if you like a truck get you the Harley Davidson get you a Harley Davidson pickup truck a F-150 really bro that's you a couple yearsDavidson pickup truck. A F-150, really, bro? Yeah, that's you. That's you. I mean, at 55... A couple of years ago,

I almost got a Shelby, though. I almost got that Shelby. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I almost got that Shelby. Yeah, they nice. Yeah, bro. Yeah. No, I got a...

Actually, I do. I got an M70 EB. BMW. I think I'm running, too. Hey, all y'all was talking smack. Hey, Marcellus Wiley, Reggie Bush, don't let me catch you on the road with those

Teslas. Don't let me catch you on the road. Uh-oh. Okay. So I'm testing you. Don't let me see you. Yeah. I think I'm running. I got another joke.

I got another joke. Tell it. Tell it. What kind of ant is good at adding things up? Adding things up. Yeah. adding things up what kind of ant Ocho account ant lord have mercy Ocho

hey I thought when you said you could tell you got on stage I thought you was like telling stuff like You telling knock knock jokes On stage No When I oh no bullshit Benji Brown

Benji watching but at the improv On Tuesdays in Coconut Grove I tell you no lie Some funny story. I'm sure somebody in the chat probably been there. If you're from Miami, you remember me getting on stage. Whenever the first comic got booed, whenever the first comic got booed, I always finished their set. And the jokes I told were just short stories.

And they were always funny. Short stories, they were always funny. If we got time one time, not tonight, obviously. If we got time, you know, throughout the- You know what? I think I might sit down and write a set. Yeah. Yeah. You know your boy got these jokes now.

That shit hard, man. That shit hard, man. You know, because when you envision your set and your material that you're writing, it has to resonate and it's all about the delivery. Yeah. Now, you know I got a delivery now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they got that. Now, you know I can, hey, the one thing I can do is tell a story, Ocho. Yeah. But see, the thing is, a lot of the stuff, you know, people done got sensitive now.

So you can't, see, like, I'm an OC. That's the hard part. Yeah, man. That's the hard part. Yeah, so, I'm just going to go and keep this stuff to myself.

Keep it to myself. It's all good. Like I said, make sure you, hey, thank you guys for clicking that like button. Make sure you click that subscribe button. Make sure you guys follow the rules. Stay on the lookout for your IG DMs because we'll be reaching out, letting you know if you are the winner. So we'll reach out throughout the night

because Ash isn't allowed to sleep. This was her idea. This was her baby. So you know what? You got to be the midwife and you got to be the woman that delivered her baby. You got to stay up through the night and get this done.

And you got to be to work tomorrow. So she has a lot on her plate over the next 10, 12 hours. Oh, but you know what? She get a little reprieve tomorrow because she gets to sleep in. She gets to sleep in on Wednesday.

No, she don't. Because we got to leave. We got to go to work. We on the road traveling. So she don't get to sleep in. I'm sorry. She get to sleep in Thursday though. She can sleep in Thursday. You get to sleep in Thursday. You don't get to sleep in, I'm sorry. You get to sleep in Thursday, though. You can sleep in Thursday. You get to sleep in Thursday. You don't get to sleep in Friday because I know you didn't want

that early flight. You're like, six o'clock. Yeah, six. Get up. I know. You didn't want it. Don't worry. It got back to me.

You didn't want to be on the flight. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Thank you for clicking that like button, that subscribe button. We're at 361,000. It's all because of you guys. So thank you. Thank you so much for watching another episode of Nightcap.

I'm your favorite sportsman, one of your great storytellers. And the 12 of us, bro, we got more stories than the library. The children's section at the library. We got a lot of stories and more to come. He's your favorite, number 85, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. We're out. I love y'all. Home gang, twin.

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