Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Browns win over Jets, Broncos Benching Russell Wilson

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the New York Jets squaring off against the Cleveland Browns on NFL Thursday Night Football, Sean Payton making headlines by benching Denver Broncos QB Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson insisting the Baltimore Ravens are written off as underdogs in the AFC, the Green Bay Packers suspending CB Jaire Alexander for crashing the coin toss in their game against the Carolina Panthers and much more!   06:15 - Browns Beat The Jets 14:30 - Aaron Rodgers Wouldn’t Overcome Jets O-line Issues 23:00 - Flacco Better Than Watson? 25:00 - Russell Wilson Benched 27:00 - Players Shouldn’t Take Pay Cuts 38:30 - Where Could Russ Land? 55:30 - Potential QB’s For Broncos? 01:03:00 - Jaire Alexander Suspended By Packers 01:12:00 - Couples Sleeping In Separate Beds 01:18:15 - Lamar Wants The Ravens To Be Underdogs 01:36:30 - Favorite Denzel Movies 01:49:30 - Top 5 Actors/Actresses 02:02:00 - Devin Hester vs Dante Hall For Best Returner (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports onk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. Cincinnati Penguins legend, route runner extraordinaire.

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Yeah, yeah, yo. I like that. I like that. Nice and smooth. Nice and smooth. You know what I'm going to do? What you going to do? I ain't never had no alcohol before.

Never in my life. I never had no alcohol before never in my life I never had no alcohol before but I'm going to tell you I'm going to record myself trying some of your drink it got to be special we got to get a million subs let us get a million and we we going to take one on the show

live take one live on the show you know what God forgive me God forgive me I'm going to drink though for the first time I got you yeah man that's alright Ocho's all right uh i want to give some the people some good news uh nightcap um with me and my with go ocho with ocho and i we're the number two sports podcast on all of apple the number two sports podcast on all of Apple and Spotify. So we're the nightcap with Unc and Ocho. We're the number two sports podcast on Apple and Spotify.

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nightcap is greatly, greatly appreciated. And we want to thank you because without you, there is no nightcap on Kinocho or no nightcap. So thank you again. Yeah. Let's jump right into the ball game the browns beat the jets 30 to 20 man i thought ocho i i thought uh and joku would go get my record he had four

catches for a buck 13 in the first quarter yeah and i was like oh man oh man he got me he got me and uh he cooled down substantially he ended the the game with six receptions, 134 yards on eight targets. But he had an outstanding game going. And Joe Flacco had it going again. What did he finish with? 19-29, 3-0-9, three touchdowns, one interception. Considering, I mean, he cooled off substantially in the second half. He had 296 at the half.

So he only had 13 yards in the second half. But they didn't at the half. So he only had 13 yards in the second half. But they didn't need a whole lot. They ran the football, but it was the turnovers. I think Ford fumbled. I think another guy got it punched out. So give the Jets credit.

But what the Jets have going on, Ocho, if they think Aaron Rodgers is going to solve all the ills with what's going on with that team they're fooling themselves and they're setting him up for failure yeah absolutely not listen I've always said that you and I we've gone back and forth about Zach Wilson being at the helm and really not being able to do anything and a lot of the the chirping and a lot of the noise on the outside feels that if Aaron Rodgers was to come back all of a sudden he would be the savior if you

understand the night if you look at Trevor Simeon behind center, he had 1.9 seconds to throw the ball. 1.9 seconds. That's not enough time to do anything. That's not even enough time to have a step, take a step back. Oh, Joe, somebody's already in your face. So there's really nothing you can do. There are many woes and many problems that need to be addressed in the offseason before Aaron Rodgers even thinks about stepping behind center. But again, on the other flip side of things, I want to talk about the Browns. The Browns obviously in playoff contention, making the playoff for the first time since 2020. But I don't like the fact that, I don't know, please help me understand, and you know this too, as well as me, as long as we play the game. Why do games like this, Joe Flacco is having the game of his life.

Obviously another 300-yard game. He had 309. He had 296 at the half. But he had 296-something, whatever it was at the half. But then we get into the second half, and all of a sudden, it's a fan skin. Whoever else is calling the plays, they step off the gas all the way. All the way off the gas. If Chief, I call him Chief, if

Cheek and Joko had a first half like that, why not continue? Why not continue that momentum? Why not continue what they were doing in the first half in the second half? And have that carry over into the next game and then into the playoffs.

That is great momentum for your team. That is great confidence for your team, especially from an offensive standpoint with a quarterback that's only been there for five weeks. Yeah. Why come off the gas? I don't understand why a team do that. It makes no sense. It does no show. But you know, the thing is, is that look, they got a decent running game. It's not what it would be had they had Nick Chubb and Ford can run the football. But I think the thing is, is that it's easy to say we should have stepped on it, but it cost the Falcons the Super Bowl. Remember when they should have been running the ball, they still full speed ahead. Right. And guess what happened? Incomplete, incomplete.

Patriots get the ball, have a turnover, get the ball again. incomplete incomplete patriots get the ball you have a turnover they get the ball again and the next thing you know had you just run the football you could have just run the football three or four series right and there wouldn't have been enough time but because you kept stopping the clock and you turn the ball over on a short field now you give a team an opportunity to get back in the ball game so i understand and even though selfishly i would have liked to see in joku see what type of game he could have had had they kept going yeah i understand stefanski and his rationale and thinking because you know what we're gonna say you let that team come back after you done had them down like that and you getting reckless with the ball throwing it all over the place when you got forward you have kareem hunt people gonna look at you like did you do? You just cost your team a playoff spot.

Yeah, but you have to think about this. You have to think about how they plan defensively. If you only got 1.9 seconds to even throw the ball, they were running the ball decent, really not really effective enough to even come back in this game. Why not continue to pour it on and pour it on? Dude, what that does for your team confidence and that team offensively, mentally, to go on and win a game like that, even if it is the New York Jets,

that carries on to the next game. And what happens when it carries on to the next game, it carries right on over into the playoffs. How did the Jets get their touchdown? Flacco threw a pick, ran it back. How did he get the field goal? Fumble. Well, that was unfortunate, though.

The dude tipped the ball. He was trying to throw it to the flat. Okay, you're right. He should have threw it in the ground. He should have threw it in the ground. Hey, think about this. Remember what happened Monday night? How many of those balls got tipped that Brock Purdy got picked? Three of them. Okay, you're right. All three of them.

He had four in the first one, and the end zone was clean. All the rest of them got popped up in the air. It the end zone was clean all the rest of them got popped up in the air and you see it snowballs on you I get what Stefanski said and like I said selfishly you and I we see Joe Flacco has

296 at the half and you say we step on the game I mean we keep the pedal to the metal what could it have been but then on the flip side about 58 at the rate they was going like it didn't even look it didn't even look like the brown just in general when i think about the browns offense and what i saw tonight in that first half i'm like who in the hell are they

with no amari cooper with no amarka with no cool and they they didn't miss a beat they didn't miss a beat i mean he had long joe fl and Joe Coo had a long of 43. Elijah Moore had a long of 24. Ford had a long of 50. Atkins had a long of 28. So, I mean, there were deep shots. And we know Joe Flacco has a big time arm. And the one that he threw to four for the 50 yarder, he's rolling to his left.

And he sides arm it. And we can size arm it side arms it and we know joe flacco isn't known for his mobility so for him to get out of harm's way change arm angle then get the ball to forward and let forward do the rest it just shows that this offense is really really good the defense was hunting tonight but i mean what am i supposed to say oh sure i think you and i could have got a sack or at least a hit on the quarterback against that offensive line that offensive line good and terrible

it's tough you think I hate to say this and I'm not going to say it because I know what it's like being on a losing team you think they're giving up nah they're just bad I mean the offensive linemen as big as they are I looked at Makai Becton.

Bruh. Yes, sir. He's their best play. Without saying much. He's giving up 11 sacks, most in the NFL. Second most penalty yard. Second most penalties called against. I mean, the dude can't block the sun out of his eyes.

And he's 6'7", 350 pounds. Man, come on. He can't block the sun out of the eye. Ain't no way you should be that big and that bad. And I get that's Myles Garrett. But at some point in time, Myles Garrett ain't just finna keep beating on me. I'ma win some of these battles.

I ain't say you got to win them all because Myles Garrett is one of the top players in the league and he's paid a premium. But at some point in time damn son yeah i mean i know i know what you mean but again that is miles garrett i mean there's certain players when it comes to it if you if you beat consistently throughout the game it's because you're playing against a premium player like a miles garrett a tj watt or um

who else one of the one of the most i don't care if it's miles garrett michael parson tj watt and whoever else michael parson one you not been to beat me every single play i mean at some point in time ocho pride gotta kick in regardless of who you're lined up against but listen even you think about. Think about as prideful as he may be, as prideful as he wants to be, there's a skill set gap. No matter what you do in that game,

that person across from you will always be better than you. But you got to win one. Pride might kick in. You got to win one. Ocho, my brother was three years older than me. We fought all the time. I got me a couple of licks. Yeah. I got me a couple of licks here. I got me a couple of licks. Listen, you got you a couple of licks, but then you went.

That's all I'm saying. You might not win, but you got to stop him on a few plays. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. I like the pride thing because you are playing. If you're not playing for the Jets, you are playing for the name on the back of that goddamn jersey. I had a college coach said that when he when you go out

he was and he told him bill davis my college coach at savannah state he said yes do not recruit offensive linemen he said i don't ever want y'all to go recruit any offensive linemen he says i want all defensive linemen he said that we get defensive linemen and they can't play defense. We can move them to offensive line and they can play offense. He said because if you get an offensive lineman and he can't play, you got a big ass equipment manager on your hands. Oh, that's a good one.

That's what you got, Ocho. Because where can you move him? Tell me where you can move an offensive lineman. He can't play defense because he doesn't have the mentality. Mentality, yeah. But then, obviously, there's a certain mentality that you have to have to play

offensive line as well. That's why you have a defensive guy. You move him over there. Yeah, especially the blind side. Now, listen, that's the most important position on the offensive line. The blind side to the quarterback, unless you're left-handed, that's your money. That's your money, man. That's your chess piece. The most important chess piece.

So you got to be able to play... You got to be nimble. You got to piece. So you got to be able to play. You got to be nimble. You got to be agile. You got to be able to dance on air. Hey, your footwork, man. Your footwork got to be special. You got to be able to kick. You got to be able to kick and hang it out, man.

That's why you're putting them boy dogs on the open side. That's why you have those guys over there. That's why you see the Miles Garris over there. That's the open side where you saw the Derekrick thomas lt mainly lined up on that side but it didn't matter where lt lined up this is why you know lt is the greatest defensive player because joe gibbs put an offense in just for him the age back position was created yeah the extra tight end was created for laurence taylor right And everybody in the NFC, he made two positions famous. The left tackle and the edge linebacker.

Because everybody went and got him. If you couldn't block LT, you couldn't beat the Giants. So Minnesota, they went and got the Gary Zimmerman. And the 49ers went and got Steve Wallace. And you go look at the teams that wouldn't got somebody

especially to deal with 56. The block LT and nobody succeeded. No, no. I mean, Washington, you know what they were called. They're the commanders now. But they got Joe Jacoby.

They traded for Jim Lachey. I've been talking about two. And Jacoby, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's on the Hall of Fame ballot this year or he went in last year, but I think he's on the ballot this year. But you look at the teams in the NFC that went and got drafted or traded for premium left tackle because, hey, I think Jimbo Colbert, the Bears, because, I mean, you had to. There was no way around it.

You had to deal with it. Right, right, right. And he wasn't a guy. And the thing is, you know, he's going to be on the edge. The difference between he and Reggie, Reggie, I mean, Reggie's turning the handle. He's turning the handle on your center, on your guard, on your tackle. And he just did like one of these open. And then when he found out it was open, you can wear him out all day.

just get like one of these open and then when he found out it was open you can wear him out all day so but yeah oh at some point in time you have to have a situation where the pride kicks in and says i understand he's a far superior athlete than me but i can't let this man beat me i mean there's 80 000 fans watching and there's another 10 million at home watching and this man beat me every single play. Every play. Matter of fact, listen, I don't play the left tackle position. I don't know much about the left tackle position or playing offensive line at all. But when I think about it, if I can't beat him physically, if I can't beat him at his own game, then I got to beat him up here.

If I can't beat him physically, you got to beat him up here. I don't know. I don't really know how to explain what you can do at that position But try to be two steps ahead two steps ahead of him try to envision what he might do Try to beat him to the punch if it's if it's cheating a little bit if it's getting out you if it's getting out your kick Get natural off the off the ball a little faster Kick it to a certain point. Stabbing him. Grabbing him.

Holding him. Any goddamn thing. Just do something. Because having 1.9 seconds to throw the ball in an NFL game where you're supposed to be one of the best in the world is unacceptable. It's unacceptable. And guess who gets the blame? The goddamn quarterback. Me personally, I don't think he's athletic enough.

His feet are quick enough to play that position he's probably better suited for a guard or right tackle he might seem to me a more of a run guy because on that open side that's where your premium athlete that's where your trent williams reside that's where your big dogs that's where your jonathan august your orlando paces and your anthunoz. That's where those guys resided. And so you see mammoth of a man that was slide. J.O. was a shot putter. So you know he had feet to be able to rotate. And he was a glide thrower.

So he didn't spin like we see the big guys now, like Ryan Krauser and all those guys. He was a glide thrower. But they need to hold that. That offensive line isn't very good. And I don't believe Aaron Rodgers, even as great as he is, I don't believe he can come in and instantaneous make them a contending football team.

That's just me personally. Somebody else might see it totally different, but I just don't see that. Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I mean, what's going to happen? I mean, Aaron Rodgers comes back next year and magically everybody's just going to be playing that much better. All of a sudden out the blue. That's really not the way that really not the way things work. Obviously, he played for played the beginning of the season. He got hurt because why he was right for his life. He was running. He was running for his life. But anyway, back to the Browns again. I just I just the – yeah, they look real good. It pains me to say this. This is Cleveland's second playoff appearance in the last 21 years.

First team to make the playoff with a four-quarterback carousel. Watson, P.J. Walker, Thompson, Robinson, and Flacco. So, Kevin Stefanky, this is his second playoff appearance in four seasons. Do you think he should be up for a candidate for Coach of the Year? Absolutely. I absolutely think he should be up for Coach of the Year. I think D'Amico Ryan should be in that running considering he's

doing this with a rookie quarterback. I think Mike McDaniel, what he's doing in Atlanta, excuse me, Miami, I think he should be in consideration. But for me, if Houston makes the playoff with a rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback, you got to give it to Mikko. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Stan Cloudy asked a question. Ocho said, we got to talk about why Flacco is moving the offense better than Watson. Well, wait, I have a question. Before you say anything, I want people to remember. Let's remember when watson played the browns were five and one the browns were five and one they were winning games but offensively statistically it doesn't look like it does with flack that's the question that he asked he says we need to ask the question why are

the why does the offense look like this with flacco and not with watson you know that's funny you know it's crazy remember that what's the first thing i asked you on last week's show why does it look like this i i i don't understand um are they called are the plays different i mean the players can't be that much different he had amari cooper he had elijah rogers and joke chief and joko was there so i i i i't answer it. I've been watching the games. I watched the games when Deshaun was playing. I'm not sure what happened. It can't be because Flacco is higher.

Deshaun is a little bit more mobile. The arm strength, I wouldn't say is as strong as Flacco, but he has the arm. He has way above average arm. Way above average. Yeah, way above average. It's not Flacco, but it's good enough. Yeah. Plenty good enough. Yeah, it's good enough yeah played it good enough yeah it's good enough it's good enough so i'm i'm trying to understand what the difference is are are the are the plays a little bit different because flacco was in but most in the bulk of the the bulk of the offense

would be at deshaun's what deshaun watson's service so why does the offense look different with flacco at the helm? I asked you because I couldn't answer it and I watched all the games. If you look at the West Coast system, and that's the system that I spent the bulk of my career, and I think it's probably the system that helped me the most make it into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's a heavy play action.

So the ability to run the football, and you look at the teams that's West Coast, you look at Miami, you look at the 49ers, you look at the Chiefs, and even though we don't think the Chiefs as a running team, they run, they like to play, they like to play action.

If you look at Flacco, when they play action, he's looking to throw the ball down the field. He's looking to get the ball down the field. He's looking to get the ball down the field. If you look at the throws that he hit in Joku on the night, the deep over route, you look at the play that he hit the Rogers. He's, he's throwing it down the field now. And sometimes maybe, maybe, maybe Deshaun is, is a bit more cautious.

Don't want to turn the ball over, but that's not Joe Flacco's mentality. Joe Flacco's mentality is the ripping. He's going to throw the ball down the field. He's going to push the ball down the field. He's going to turn the ball over but that's not joe flacco's mentality joe flacco's mentality is the ripping he's gonna throw the ball down the field he's gonna push the ball down the field he's gonna push the envelope you know that's you know that's a good thing now that you said that do you think flacco is is more inclined to just play freely because he didn't have the weight of the contract over his shoulder or deshaun being a little bit more cautious because of the contract and knowing that i really can't play as free as I'd like to, because as soon as I make mistakes, the first thing they bring up is the money they pay.

They're not going to play. Because Flacco say, what's the worst thing y'all could do? Send me back to my couch. Hell, I just got here. Right. So, okay. So why go back to daddy duties and pick it up and take, drop it on my kids. It's my five kids at school.

Deshaun, he, he, listen, he hears everything that we're saying. There are murmurs in Cleveland, the fans that in the stands and on the radio stations, they're saying this claim conversation that you and I are having right now. Mary Kay Cabot and all those people in Cleveland are having those same conversations. Why does the offense look so different with Joe Flacco? A guy that was calling teams, asking for roster spots?

Can I come in? Let me throw for you. Let me do this. And everybody told him no. Right. So how does a guy get off his couch in five weeks look better than a guy that's been there throughout the entirety? Yeah.

You know, the funny thing is, I think, I think Watson can do it. And I think what I just said might be the issue. Playing cautious, not playing free, wanting to play mistake-free football instead of pinning your ears back and letting that motherfucker fly. And I think when he does have the opportunity to come back, because he will be back,

and what we've seen from Amari, what we've seen from Elijah Moore, what we've seen from Jerome Ford, what we've seen from Kareem Hunt, they can get the job done. And that West Coast offense should pick up right where it left off once Deshaun is back healthy and ready to run. He's going to have to, Ocho, because the guy we're about to talk about,

Denver Broncos is benching his $242 million contract. The franchise— That's bullshit. The franchise— That's bullshit. The blockbuster trailer will be finished. Russ is expected to be cut by the Broncos in March for almost two months. He's been knowing the organization was most likely going to move on for him after the season.

Bullshit. Bunch of bullshit. Listen, a lot of people in the chat, those that are listening, those that are watching, I know there have been a lot of gripes about Russell Wilson. I even talked about it's i'm surprised to see that the maturation of the relationship between him and sean payton have been doing well uh he scrutinized a lot everything is magnified obviously because of the contract reasons um wilson's number this year 2016 passes he ranks six in the nfl only behind behind Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy

let me see obviously Jared Goff, Josh Allen, blah blah blah whatever he's 33 this season this season alone I think he's ahead of him and Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes and Wilson's numbers are identical

they're identical. So I'm trying to understand the move by the Broncos is simply a money move. It's simply a money move. It's a business move on trying not to pay. Is it $39 million?

No, he's already guaranteed $39 million. He's guaranteed $39 next season, but another $37, if he got hurt and couldn't pass a fiscal by March 2025, it's guaranteed at $37 million. Guar 2025 is guaranteed at 37 million guaranteed right right right right just i mean it's a money move i think for him if he was playing well i think would there be any way they can come to him and try to restructure there would be no way to restructure no i mean he would have to and that's what ocho this is why i tell players

why y'all taking pay cuts why y'all giving team discounts you see what they do to you right you see what they do to you yeah but oh take a and then what the nc the nfl owners have done a great job because they're the only they're the only group of people that can convince the the common folk that millionaire yeah the millionaires are more selfish than the billionaires and what they pay and what they frame it as if i if a millionaire doesn't give a billionaire a pay cut he's selfish he doesn't want to win and the fans jump on it with both feet they buy in with both feet oh if i was doing hold on if i was doing this if somebody paid me 30 million what if somebody would paid me 30 million,

what if somebody would pay you 30 million? How much do you think they're making? But fans, it's the same. That's why, and I get, I get, look, I understand both sides because I was a player and I understand when they struck in 82, when they struck in 87, the replacement players came in 87.

You know why the the people the players started coming back because what they found out that the stadiums will still feel they don't care about the players all they care about is the logo players come and go that logo stays the same so what the players found out is that we got to take what they give us and the fan and the owners know that that's why they do what they do that's why they don't have guaranteed contracts see what you see what baseball did baseball shut their entire season down no world series yeah no playoffs that's what they needed to do to the nfl no playoffs no yeah but you got get, you got to, all the players have to be aligned together. You know, that's hard.

That's what you do. You say, look here, guys, we're going to do this, but I need you guys. Listen, no more splurging. No more. I need you to save every dime for three years because this might take a year. This might take a year. It might take two year. This might take a year. It might take two years. But right before the playoffs,

that's how you get them. Right before the playoffs, lock it down. Everybody got to be aligned. In 2011, what did the owners do to the players, Ocho? They locked y'all ass out of the building. Out of the building, yeah.

Y'all going up there saying, uh-uh. They put chains and locks on the door. That's what they did to y'all. What did the fans say? Not a damn thing. Now, billionaires locked out millionaires, but if you don't take a pay cut, fans jump in the chat. The first thing they're going to say,

you selfish. He don't want to win. Well, the owners don't want to win because they ain't paying no money look i can't even yeah i mean but then then and there's a funny thing about the fans the fans will say oh a bunch of millionaires crying oh you got all this money why are you arguing when you're making this and you're making that but i don't think people understand obviously what it takes to even get to this point and then obviously getting what you feel you're worth i mean they're already going to cut you short anyway based on what your value really is but you got to fight tooth and nail to get what you deserve or what you feel you deserve especially once you put the work in when you put the work in and your resume is shown on the green

graph between the white lines you have to fight tooth and nail to get what you deserve i'm not even gonna say no names but some quarterbacks depending on who it is oh it's no issues things get done everybody gonna have a face this day oh i remember i remember why you think tom brady out of new england they wasn't gonna get tom brady wanted that money they said bill belichick's not on my watch yeah i remember when john elway made Peyton Manning take a pay cut. So, yeah. Yeah, sure did. Sure did.

Sure did. Yeah. You know. They made Peyton Manning take a pay cut? They sure did. Absolutely. 1,000%. And the thing is, Ocho, is that they like I said, the only day frame it and fans buy in. I just want to know if anybody knows fans before. But after the season, every NFL team last year got a check for three hundred million.

Now, ain't no ticket sold. Ain't no concession. Ain't no merchandise. Ain't no TV deal. That's just a TV deal. That's not for tickets. That's not for concession. That's not for merchandise. That's not for local broadcast rights. That's just TV, national TV. YouTube just spent two point two billion a year. Amazon spent a billion. Netflix won't. this action. Be it football or basketball. And the owners split that, huh? Each owner get 300 million.

And that's before a ticket is sold. Ain't no parking. Ain't no concession. Ain't no merchandise. Ain't no local broadcasting. And now you got, now let's do local sponsorship. Let's do local sponsorship let's do local advertising right man they better stop you know what i'm sorry i'm sorry i got on my soapbox i'm sorry i got on my soapbox but i just

need fans need to understand this they need to understand i don't think they'll ever be under they don't understand though i don't think they'll ever be under the understand though i don't think they'll be they'll never be able to understand because they're they're looking at it from a different view as a fan and not the actual player they're seeing it is well you're a millionaire you're making millions of dollars think about the opportunity that you have or that you have to make this kind of money and you're complaining about not making enough. And it's, it's,

I think it's really hard for them to understand and get a graph. But what I tell the fans, let's just say you make it a hundred thousand, you make 150,000 on your job. You know what I'm going to do? You're solid. I will bump your pay up to 200,000 and your boss come to you and say, I need you to take a 50,

$75,000 pay cut because we want to pay somebody else. And we want to make sure that we win at whatever we do. Y'all signing on for that? Why not? See, I want you to look at it to a relative scale. Don't look at somebody making $30 million because you're not making $30 million. I need you to look at it in your terms. You're making $175,000 to $200,000 and your boss come to you and say, take $150,000

pay cut so we can hire Karen and HR. You good with that? Who good with that? You ain't taking no money from me, but y'all got no problem taking the money from a football player. Why? Because it ain't your money.

But when I hit your pocket, now all of a sudden, man. And see what Harrison's saying? Think about it, Ocho. Remember I told you? When they ask you to take a pay cut, okay, you making $13 million. They want to take you down to $8 million. Right.

But they want you to make plays just like you're making $13 million. You see how they did, Ocho? Yeah. Ocho. I like how you went there. Can you still give me 1,400? Can you still give me 10 touchdowns? Can you still give me those 90 to 100 catches?

But I need you to take an $8,000 pay cut. But make those same plays. Mm-hmm. Oh! It's crazy how it work. It's crazy how it work. And the funny thing about it is you have to damn their play when your price tag is similar to that of Russell Wilson. You got to damn near almost play mistake free football and damn near be in contention.

You can't have no slip ups, no, no, no, nothing. The team has to be damn near on the way to the goddamn Super Bowl to warrant the money you're getting and then the owner the new owners the new coach that's not who Russell Wilson is right remember I had this conversation I say Sean Payton ain't beholden to Russell Wilson and I told you early on I said Ocho remember we there's in detroit and he was yelling i said yeah i get it but not in public like that you don't dress down a guy of russell wilson now we've seen lesser tier quarterbacks coach parcells and some of the other coaches have dressed down lesser tier quarterbacks but not russell wilson no matter how no matter how poorly you think he's

played in denver he's a super bowl winner he's a multiple time playoff and he has 300 touchdown passes. He has 30, 40,000 passing yards, maybe even 50. So he's earned a level. I believe me personally, I believe he's earned a certain level of respect on the sideline. Now, if you want to say some things behind closed doors where the public can't hear or see, have at it. But I'm telling you, Ocho, remember, I came on.

There were some things going on with the last coach that Russell was get away with. And when Sean Payton found out about it, he was incensed. Now, I tried to tell people what was going on last year.

And everybody was asking, Shannon, how you know? You ain't in the locker room. You heard what his teammates said. Congratulations, teammate. You're supposed to stand up for Russell Wilson, but I don't give a damn what they said. Everything that I said was going on was factual.

Was going on, yeah. And then, now, all of a sudden, Shannon, what you think about the situation? No, when I tried to tell you, you told me to shut my mouth because I didn't know what was going on. I promise you. Right. If I tell you grass will turn to cheese, start hustling crackers. That's what I need you to do.

Whatever you're doing, whatever your occupation is. If I tell you grass will turn to cheese tomorrow, quit your job, start hustling crackers. Now, I told you what was going on. job start hustling crackers now i told you what was going on and i told you if russell wilson didn't play to eddie eddie at an mvp level the bronco was gonna move on well you know you ain't in the locker room you just talking loud mouth now everything i said has come to fruition now what yeah and you think they sabotage it on purpose no not. Not saying that it's not possible. They wanted to get out some of that contract. It's really simple, Ocho. So you do think they might sabotage it purposely?

Once they realize, they say, look, he's not living up to the contract. We don't want to get him hurt, Ocho. How many times you see, you see this all the time in the preseason. They don't let the guy play

because they don't want to pay him. So they ain't going to let his ass get into the last preseason game, get hurt, and get that money. So he don't play the guy play because they don't want to pay him. So they ain't going to let his ass get into the last preseason game, get hurt and get that money. So he don't play. You'll see. How many years you see that? Yeah, a lot.

But you know, you know what would be a good one? Jared Stidham. Jared Stidham. I know you don't see this. Jared, if you see this and you're really a team player, Jared should get hurt. Like the first play of the game. So Russell Wilson got to come in and finish the next two weeks.

Hold on. Ocho, do you know how many other teams watching this tape? Russell Wilson done made his money. Okay. Russell Wilson done made his money. I mean, I'm just a little jab back at the Denver Broncos. Just a little jab back at the Denver Broncos. Oh, since y'all want to play games, huh?

Ocho, you know that ain't how it work, Ocho. Because here's the thing. Here's a guy that's not made a ton of money. 31 other teams going to get this film. Now, granted, they did the same thing to Derek Carr last year. Jared Stidham started in place of Derek Carr. Remember, Jared Stidham was supposed to

be the guy that played for Tom Brady. Now, I don't know how well if Jared Stidham... Now, he's had two opportunities. New England and the Raiders. This is his third opportunity. So we're going to find out. But I know he's going to put his best foot forward because he's playing for a contract.

Russell Wilson is going to... Listen, Russell got $39 million guaranteed coming. So even he's going to be able to double dip. With the Raiders needing a starting quarterback, there are other teams that... There dip. Would the Raiders need a starting quarterback? There are a lot of teams that need a starting quarterback. I think the best place for him to go is the Steelers.

The Steelers? The Washington football team need a quarterback? The Patriots need a quarterback? No, no, no. Don't send it to the Patriots. Don't send it to the Patriots. Don't do that. I think the Steelers, you have Tomlin, Super Bowl winning coach.

You have Russell Wilson, a Super Bowl winning quarterback with a predigree and knowing what it's like to, again, get to the playoffs. The Steelers standard, the Steelers standard on always winning and being in playoff contention. That's the perfect quarterback for your situation. You got Pickens. You got Deontay Johnson. Listen, being able to hand the ball off the goddamn nage harris i can't remember the the other running backs name who've been playing really well uh jaylen uh what's jaylen last name uh i know he's that number 30 for the steelers i know exactly i think i think i think it's a match made in heaven based on the resume of Tomlin, the resume of goddamn Russell Wilson. You don't have to do too much.

You have great targets. You have a great running game. You got a great coach, great scheme. You have a great fucking defense, a good defense. It just makes too much sense to me. The Falcons can use it. No, I don't like it. The Falcons?

Atlanta Falcons. Nah. Man, hold on't like it. The Falcons. Atlanta Falcons. Nah. Man. No, don't do that. Don't do that. They got Kyle Pitt. They got the receiver from USC. They got Bajon Robinson.

Drake London. Drake London. Yeah, Drake London. Yeah, he's good. But we talk about- Jalen Warren is the guy that's running back for the Steelers. Jalen Warren.

You just put him on a team. I'm thinking about long-term and actually have 13 years though so how much long term you think he's gonna play you think you'll be see everybody thought that i'm gonna play like brady i'm gonna play like brady bro ain't no no he if he's not gonna play that long at least put him on a team that is going to make the playoffs and be in contention for a trophy it It ain't going to be the goddamn Falcons and that's no disrespect to them. They got a long way to go.

What did I just tell you? Date the girl that wants you, not the girl you want. I mean, I don't think they're still going to turn their nose up at Russell Wilson. What you think he going to want? I don't think so. Oh, he don't want much. He just got 39. Hold on. What I made at my last job ain't got nothing to do even if they still owe me money they ain't got nothing to do with you right i mean how many people fans in the chat you want your job

your job let you go but they gotta pay you they gotta pay you your salary let's just say it's a hundred thousand two hundred thousand you go to your you got a. Let's just say it's $100,000, $200,000. You got a new job. Well, you know, your old job's still paying you, so we don't going to pay you. The hell you say? I ain't working at the old job. I'm working at a new job, so I want new money. But they're bad.

You know, I don't even think he had the leverage like that anyway. Yeah. I don't even think he had the leverage like that. And you don't want to come off in bad taste going to a new team demanding anything extreme. I didn't know the man. I want the going rate.

What's the... Okay, what's the going rate for a starting quarterback? 40 mil. Right now... What? What? The Cowboys

going to renegotiate that contract. It's going to be somewhere between 50 and 60. Yeah. They need to pay him. I don't know what they need to pay him, but Russell Wilson said,

okay, to go and rate for a starting quarterback is 40 million. That ain't got that 39 that I got coming. They ain't got nothing to do with y'all. Y'all ain't paying none of that. Right, right. I'm on your clock now.

Look, look, I thought Russell, I thought Russ played well. I know what they're looking at. They say when the game is like, when the game is reliant on Russell being improvisational, that's when he's at his best.

So I don't think Sean Payton really likes that. He likes things a little bit more structured. If you look at the success he had, Drew Brees is more prototypical of what Sean Payton is looking for. Although I think that style of quarterback play is archaic. If you look at the quarterbacks that's having success, most of those guys are more athletic. They're more mobile.

Now you look, Jared golf is not the more mobile he can take off. He has better legs than Brady and Manning ever had. Eli Manning ever hang, but he's not, he's not likening ever hang but he's not he's not like you know he's not lamar nobody's asking to be but we see patrick mahomes how mobile he is yeah we see a joe burrow we'll see these guys these guys have become much more athletic yes they can drop back throw the ball from the pocket but when you got miles garrett and you got michaels

and you got the tj watts those guys have become more athletic so you need a quarterback that's more athletic to be able even though they can't outrun them just buy some time in order to push the ball down the field yes this is all about money i'm not surprised that they're taking this route for the simple fact is they don't believe that russell wilson is playing up to that contract and he can fulfill the remaining years on that contract. So you know what? We're going to cut bait. We're going to eat 39 million.

It's probably going to be somewhere between 60 and $7 million in dead money. Now, do we do it up over two years or do we just take this blow to the stomach right now? That's that's the only question that the Broncos have because the Broncos have already made their decision. They're moving on in 2024 without Russell Wilson. But then to who? To what? And the thing is, they're probably going to draft,

maybe in free agency. I don't know. But they're going on without Russ because think about what they gave up to get him. To the round of the second, a third, a fourth and three players. A lot, which is why the fact that they're they're getting rid of him so soon. Oh, Joe is beyond me. The thing that these teams, a lot of these teams, what they will do once they come to,

because a lot of times what you do, you're in a relationship and people, y'all hear me talk about relationships a lot. A lot of times in a relationship, you know, that shit ain't working, but out of a matter of convenience, you stay your ass there.

Instead of just moving on either party. I'm not saying he's wrong or her, this or that. I'm saying people sometimes stay in a relationship when you know it ain't going nowhere. The Broncos know they're not going anywhere with Russell Wilson. So instead of staying and trying to figure it out, let's just move on down the road. And guess what? And he might be Ocho.

We've all been in situations. It didn't work out with us, but she has better luck with someone else or you have better luck with someone else. It's okay. Yeah, right. And you got to be able to process that, Ocho. Yeah, when you use that analogy, it makes much more sense.

It makes much more sense, especially when you put it like that. But to me, with the money that comes into play and the fact that it's only been two years, wait, this is year two, right? Yes, the second year. Yeah, it's only year two. Normally, I would think,

I would think with a new coach coming in, new regime, new owner, just, you know, you give it some time, but I guess their mind is made up. I think Sean Payton just maybe didn't like Russell Wilson. Maybe he just didn't like him. And the fact that Russell has known for a long time that they were wanting to bench him and get rid of him.

And he's still professional. And was still out there professional and winning games, throwing TDs. But, and I think that's why Sean Payton barked at him a little bit. He wanted to get a reaction. I think he wanted to get a reaction. But that's not really Russell's personality. I'm not surprised.

That's not him. Russell just took it. And like I said, I'm trying to figure out why he was yelling unless Russell checked to a play. It was supposed to be quarterback sneak or something. I don't understand how he's yelling at Russ because the damn lineman lined

up offside. How the hell is that Russ's fault? So I was probably did call some he wants for the call. And so that's what I was puzzled uh look but but no matter what transpired before sean payton got there everybody was supposed to have a fresh slate

so whatever russ did or didn't do that wasn't under your watch so you shouldn't have felt some type of way about him i thought we were starting from scratch clearly that wasn't the case so no matter what you look i've been critical of russ but i don't think russ russ deserved but i shouldn't say he deserved because i hate using that word deserved i just think the thing is the broncos felt that russ wasn't living up and couldn't fulfill the money that was remaining on the contract instead of trying to make it work. You know what? Let's

just move on. Let's just move on, Ocho. I mean, it's really that simple. Let's just move on. That's tough. But then I think when owners or they make those type of business decisions, do they think about the other players in the locker room? Do we think about,

do they think about the fans? What do the fans think? Because now you're back at square one, because as you got 32 teams in the NFL and you need, you need one, there's one important position that you need to compete week in and week out. And even think about playoffs or got them Lombardi trophy. And that's a quarterback.

And you just let one that is a Superbowl winner. One has been the multiple playoffs and one that knows what it takes to win. And because he wasn't playing well, you know what? Because he's making so much money. We're going to let this one go and start over from scratch. You know why the owners don't care what the fans think? Because they're going to buy them tickets and show their ass up in the stands.

And you know what? And the ones that can't afford their tickets, they're going to watch on television. Look at the ratings. Look at the ratings, Ocho. That's what the NFL, that's what moves the needle. You see, the reason why they wanted the players to stand, because it was affecting the sponsors, the advertisers.

That's what moved them. They don't give a damn about them fans. Now, when the fans are like, okay, we're not going to watch it. We're not going to boycott it. Like, whatever, we'll see. But when the sponsors started feeling some type of way, when the people, yeah. See, they figured this out. The fans are going to come regardless.

When they talk about, oh, boycott, boycott, boycott, y'all ain't boycotting because those same people that boycotted Michael Vick when they came back from the Eagles, guess what? Soon as the game started, they put those damn signs down and they went in the game. They went and watched the game. That's what they did. And the owners realized that. Y'all ain't boycotting

nothing. And you're watching. That's why the ratings keep going up and up. And the TV money keep going up and up and the tv money keep going up and up that's why it costs more for everybody trying to get in the live events that's why right youtube youtube doing football games amazon go from delivering packages to doing football games ball games yeah come on now that's crazy come on with it if it makes dollars it makes sense one with a c and one with an s either way it makes sense and you know what i'm talking about so all that talking we're gonna boycott we're gonna do this no you're not you're not gonna

do anything you're gonna show it to the game and pay and you're gonna watch on television to the game and pay and you're going to watch on television the owners have figured it out that's crazy we the funny thing about it is is the fans will probably never all join in in unison and say okay we're boycotting even worse than that to get the players all to align with the same moral compass and values of you know what in order for things to work in order for things to turn and switch over in our favor we all gotta say you know what fuck it we ain't doing it it's hard we ain't playing until we get guaranteed contracts or whatever it may be whatever cause it is that you want to fight for to get all 53 players on all 32 teams to get together and do it all it takes is one time to get the change that you want. All it takes is one time. But it'd be a damn the impossible because when them checks, when them checks stop coming

and it is September 9th, roll around and no checks coming in, man, boy, it does. Now, that's why I'm saying you got to have a process, though. You got it. You can't say, OK, we're going to we're going to do this. You say you got to give the players three years and you got to let them know this is what's happening and hopefully you have enough in the war chest that you can you can withstand a year but ocho look hey that's that hey that's a tough one because them hey them owners oh they could withstand here's the thing i'm worth a billion dollars I go to the bank

and say look I'm not going to be able to make this payment on this building this month but I catch you next month okay Mr. Jones okay Mr. Kraft okay Mr. this one whoever the owner is of that particular team let a player say that okay well you got another 30 days and after that we're going to start

the process Ocho I'm just going to start the process. Yeah. I'm just going to keep it a stack with you. So you see, there's something going on bigger at play here. And I don't know if the people are realizing it because see, you see what happened. If you go back and study our history and I was a history major, so I'm pretty good.

And I feel very comfortable in what I'm about to say. Right. You see, you remember in the sixties, the government started giving us things. They gave us a little civil rights. They gave us a little civil rights. They gave us a little voting rights act. They gave us a little fair housing.

And then they just a little bit, just a little bit. And you remember in the 70s, Roe v. Wade, they gave us abortion. This is the first generation that's starting to take that ish back. And people don't even realize it. Look at it. Look at what they're starting to do. They gave and gave and gave. And then they say, you know what?

Piece by piece, we'll start taking it back just like we gave it to them. And they won't even notice it. You see, what people do, you don't see. The thing is, you don't steal 300 million. You steal a million at a time over a period of time. Right. And before they notice it you see they take a little bit by a little bit you see voting rights okay we're gonna make a little bit more difficult over here you see your civil rights yeah you see and i'm not just talking

about black people i'm talking about anybody that that won't write you see how to take it you see roe v wade they've been they've been going at it they've been pulling and pulling they've been trying to get it since it was institute i think it was 72 roe v wade happened in 72 if i'm not mistaken don't quote me on that but i feel pretty confident that it was uh and boom boom 73 and 73 and so slowly by slowly but surely surely surely slowly but slowly and next thing you know you look up so gender this generation you better get on your grind now while you out there while you out there flossing and doing all this crazy stuff you better look up you're gonna look up and like damn i ain't got it yeah yeah yeah you know i the funny thing about i think a lot of people don't pay attention to it

a lot of people don't pay attention to it because it hasn't affected them yet or it's not affecting them at all no no no you see it takes a special type of person you see it takes a special type of person to have empathy because empathy requires you to divorce yourself and see yourself as that person the only see some things can only be seen through the mind through the eyes that have cried ojo so if you can't see yourself as homeless how can you feel how can you help you see that's why people will give to cancer because they know someone that's been afflicted by that deadly disease so it's easy yeah to get on okay when someone that's been

brutalized well i can't you think jerry jones can see somebody his family being brutalized look at when that flood in texas look at how much the NFL, how they raised that money. J.J. What made 30 million dollars? Bless his heart. He was unbelievable. One Walter Payton man of the year. Because you see, the flood can impact anybody.

Water doesn't know if you black or white. Yeah, but you know what? Let me let me stop. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Chad. Now you go. You go. You go. I'm sorry that I got off topic.

I got off topic. That's I just TJ Ell Chad. No, you're good. You're good. You're good. I'm sorry that I got off topic. That's – I just – TJ Ellsworth asked, is there a quarterback in the upcoming draft that you're hoping your Broncos get or a free agent who you believe would fit the team better? Well, look, it doesn't matter what I think. I think Sean Payton thinks he can find someone that would fit the team better. That's what he thinks. They gave a lot of money, Ocho. They gave a what he thinks. They gave a lot of money, Ocho.

They gave a lot of money. They gave a lot of power. I know they want to win. I love Sean Payton. I don't see him as a quarterback whisperer, and I'm not sure what's out there that he thinks is going to change because if you think he was screaming at

Russell Wilson two weeks ago or three weeks ago, half a long ago, it was. He's going to be screaming some more. That's him. That's his nature. He's going to be screaming. Who is his mentor? Bill Parcells yelled at everybody. He yelled at Phil Fields.

He yelled at Drew Bledsoe, Tony Romo. He called Terry Glenn. She was hurt. I mean, you couldn't do that now. He wouldn't refer to T.O. by his name. He said to Bledsoe. I remember that. I remember that. Man oh i'm just saying so that's kind of and you have to be

careful when you learn because you you i mean you just uh exhibit a lot of those that that behavior if you look at the guys that under coach belichick all of them try to be like coach belichick and only only one coach that's ever been a coordinator on the coach. Belichick has had success at really any level. That's Nick Saban. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You, you're right. You're right. So, uh, what, what quarterback though?

What quarterback would you say? Dre? And I mean, the Broncos aren't picking high enough. Uncle May said, we, the Falcon fans don't want Russ, nor do we need future Sierra Russ drama in our locker room.

Man, y'all wild with this man. I forgot all about that. I forgot all about that. Oh, look, I don't know when the Broncos are gonna draft look the last thing i think they need to do is give up any more draft capital because i think that's it because here's the

thing oh joe when you give up that kind of draft capital you give up two first round picks oh joe he gotta make it he gotta make it yeah because that's just right that's the foundation piece of the quarterback. That's the position that sits everybody back. That's the position. That's the position. They letting it go too early, though. Year two? Year two? How long are you in a relationship before you realize it's time to break it off?

Two days, two weeks, two months, two years. That's too long. it off two days two weeks two months two years that's that's too long whatever the two is if i know it ain't working it's too long two minutes two hours two days two weeks two months two years it doesn't matter if you oh joe if you know that's the problem a lot of times people stay in situations when you know he or she ain't gonna change are they are they are they pulling the trigger too soon based on him based on his numbers are they pulling the trigger too soon his numbers are identical to pat patrick mahomes are they pulling the trigger what do you think whatever because here's the thing a lot of people say it ain't russ fault. They've always blamed

the quarterback. And you just said it in the Jets. The Jets' offensive line isn't very good. Who they blame, Ocho? Name a situation in which they... I mean, hey, I remember the same thing. Now, when Lamar receivers weren't very good, they blamed Lamar, even though he was throwing to less than

all-star caliber receivers. We put a lot of that up because Mahomes ain't playing look Mahomes if Mahomes was playing like he would normally play maybe he'd be able to overcome some of the inadequacies that's going on the receiver right so guess what he got blamed again that's just the way it is Ocho you make the most money, you get the blame. You get most of the blame. I'm not saying it's right. I just understand how it works. It comes with the territory.

It does. Because no matter what, Ocho, you can give a kid everything. If the kid doesn't turn out right, they're going to blame the parents. Give them everything. I like that one. They're going to blame the parents. Give him everything. I like that one. They're going to say they gave him too much. If the kid turns out bad,

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, the Packers suspended Jahir Alexander. The Packers have placed him on a reserve list conduct detrimental. Packers GM said the decision to suspend a player is never easy and not one we take lightly.

Unfortunately, Jahir's action prior to the game in Carolina led us to take this step. As an organization, we have an expectation that everyone puts team first. While we are disappointed, we had a good conversation with Jair and this morning and fully expect him to learn from this. Ocho,

what's my favorite saying, Ocho? You never accept anything in a win, you win in a loss. Had they lost this game with what he did, it'd been okay. Yes or no, Ocho? No. That's what i've been telling you you see he's one of your better cornerbacks in the league and the green bay packer said what you did your behavior is so egregious we got to sit you down we've got to set a precedent

we've got to let out the rest of the other 51 me, the other 45 in the practice squad. This type of behavior is never acceptable. And then the cavalierness of it. Ocho, did you know, did you know, understand what he did? Do you understand what he did, Ocho? Bring it to me one more time. He was not a captain. He went on the field for the coin toss.

They won the coin toss. He, the other team won the coin toss. He deferred. So in other words, Carolina was going to get both possessions to start the game and start the second half. And he thought it was cool. That's what the smugness and the cavalierness of it. I think I got that right.

Am I correct? Is that what happened? Okay. Yes. Hey. Hey. That's how it went. Absolutely. Yes. Hey. Hey. That's how it went. For real?

Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. But you know, it makes me upset. You know why it makes me upset? Because the goddamn Packers are playing the Vikings. You know who plays for the Vikings? Justin Jefferson.

Who the hell for the cover Justin Jefferson? That's what I want to know because I want to see that matchup. I want to see the matchup because Justin Jefferson has been hurt. Jair Alexander and Justin Jefferson is a matchup that we would all want to see. But the fact that he's suspended, it's unfortunate.

What he did, totally unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. I don't understand him suspending him for a game. I don't even know why he did it. I get Totally unacceptable. Come on. I don't even know why. He's from Charlotte. I get all that. He's from Charlotte. But bro, you play for the Packers. Yeah, but even if you're from Charlotte, what is going on for the coin toss?

That doesn't really... I guess he thought he was doing a solid for the Panthers. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know one thing. That's that motherfucking boy, though, in man-to-man coverage. He's a great corner.

A very, very good corner. Very good corner. Playoff. You know what? Packers out of playoff contention, huh? They're absolutely not. Damn, playoff contention is sitting the best corner down? Yes.

Yes. Yes. That's the precedent. They sitting the goddamn. They sitting the precedent. Even if That's the president. They said the president. Even if they don't win, this is what we got to let. This is what we got to let everybody know. You see, punishment is just not for the individual that committed said act. Right.

It is deter others for committing said act. That's what punishment is. Right. Punishment should be swift. It should be harsh when we deduce the fact you know when we get down to it he or she did x let's not lie like that right what he did yeah i don't think unacceptable i don't think i don't think they're gonna be same after this who i don't think i don't think you're gonna be there well he's trying to get out clearly

because i didn't did they suspend him didn't they suspend him uh last year didn't he have some kind of i guess he had an issue with them last year ocho yeah i think this has kind of been going back and forth i don't know if he wanted more money but jair alexander has been having some issues with the package organization right for a while now if i'm not mistaken chat y'all chime in let me know if i'm right or wrong yeah anytime we get to this point obviously i understand they want to set a precedent anytime they get to the point of spinning one of their best if not their but the best corner you know on the team and it gets to the point where we're gonna we're gonna suspend them even with our team being in playoff contention especially with the game we have coming

up playing against arguably the best receiver in the nfl who just come back from injury they they that yeah that they they they're sending a message not not just not just suspending him for this game but it's a different kind of message if you look at it from the other the other side of the corner i think whether he hurt or they said they said he was hurt or something. But Jahir Alexander, and they've had issues with him before. I know I didn't miss. I'm not whistling.

Yeah. Maybe it is. Maybe it was Jahir hurt or something, and they wanted him to come back, and he said he was hurt. I know he was injured for a little bit this year. I know that. I know one thing. When he is healthy, that motherfucker, I know he can injured for a little bit this year I know that I know one thing when he is healthy

that motherfucker I know he can cover for it boy he can cover I'm talking about I'm talking about man to man in your face you remember last year

that Justin Jefferson in Minnesota he went crazy in Giants and said okay he got to come see me he got to come see me and when he came to Lambeau

it wasn't the same. Different ball game. Well, if I'm wrong, I love matchups. I love matchups like that. But I just... Come on, Jair. Come on to Cincinnati, boy. I'm just trying to figure out

why would you even put yourself in this... That Ocho? I don't know. You know what's funny? Him not wanting to be... He might have did it on purpose. Oh, he did.

What do you mean he might have? He did. He might have did it on purpose. Just... He's from Charlotte. You know what? Let me piss him off one more time

before the season ends. See if this can help me get out the door. Maybe. You never know. Because other ways he might have been trying behind closed doors didn't work. Look, like I said, I mean, he's

one of the highest paid. Had he gotten a contract extension? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's one of the highest paid. And Green Bay has some talent. You think about Zedaria Smith, who's in Cleveland right now, played really well. Remember, Z went to Minnesota, played well there.

They still have Rashawn Gary. They still have Preston Smith, Jai Alexander. I mean, they had a very talented – look. Yeah. They just let Rasul Douglas go over the goddamn Buffalo. But the thing was, Ocho, the opportunity that they had when they had home field throughout and they had the championship game on their field and they had all those dogs and they didn't cash it in.

And that opportunity don't knock, but so often before it moves on to someone else's door to knock on. And when Green Bay had that opportunity, you know, they had Devante and they had some of those guys. And you look at what they had on the defensive side of the football and they couldn't close it out, even after they got, what, they get three interceptions from Tom Brady and they still didn't win that game? They didn't capitalize.

So, I just hate that Jahir put himself in that situation. I really hate that. Look, I just look, Ocho, I believe that even if I don't like my job, there's something about being a pro and being a professional. And although they're kind of spelled the same, they start off the same, but they're two different things. A professional is the occupation.

A pro is who you are. They're two different things, Ocho. You see, Ocho, there's a saying that says, change is inevitable. Growth is optional. Choose wisely. Yeah.

You right. You right. But listen, with the way they treat some of those that even act professional and do things like a pro, that business side can make you turn a blind eye.

That's another saying, too. I got that from my grandma. Alexander missed weeks three and four with a back injury, played through it in week five because he was facing his former teammate, Devontae Adams, then missed week game seven against the Broncos with the same injury. In week nine, Alexander suffered a shoulder injury,

diving to break up a pass, and missed six consecutive games before returning Sunday against the Panthers. However, he was never placed on injury reserve during that span. He didn't play any games during that stretch. Not only that, Alexander didn't travel with the Packers to the week 14 game against the Giants after making trips to Pittsburgh and Detroit, the first two road destinations

after the shoulder injury. You see? You see what's going on here, Ocho? There's something going on. Yeah. Something going on. Yeah, something going on internally. That's why I say he did that on purpose.

He did it on purpose. So I think is that we can see where this thing is headed. It started like, Ocho, you know how a couple of them start sleeping in separate beds? Now, that's not something that we can see where this thing is headed. It started like, Ocho, you know how a couple of them start sleeping in separate beds? Now, if that's not something that we talked about, that

you start sleeping in separate beds, it's only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time. He can come on to Cincinnati, boy. Now, that ain't going to stop me from trying to go up there and shake the covers up there. Now, I just got you in another room. But, now it get

harder and harder for you, boy. You know, I get... You gonna shake the covers full dark. Listen, if y'all sleeping in separate beds, it's already over. Like you said, ain't no point in shaking the covers no more if you're sleeping in separate beds.

For what? I'm like TLC. I ain't too proud to be. What's wrong with you? You want to get out of my face? In the morning or the evening, I ain't too proud to be. Hey, that ain't TLC's song. I think it is. No, that's SWV.

Ain't it? I ain't too proud to beg. Who says I ain't too proud to beg? That's Envogue. I don't know who it is, but I know I... My music catalog all messed up. Huh? I ain't too proud to beg. Temptations? The Temptations?

Nah, nah. temptations the temptations hey somebody in the chat who say that that is it is I'm talking about I'm talking about SWV I'm we like them too

yeah look and remember Cameron Diaz says she she wants to normalize sleeping in separate beds not look if she pregnant i'm snoring she can't get a good night's sleep she uh you know i'm saying okay i get that you understand it makes sense yeah it makes sense but it i think normalized sleeping in separate beds i say maybe more so after argument. More so after argument, cooler heads prevail,

go to separate rooms. You never go to bed angry. Never go to bed angry. Always find a way to talk it out. You know, I'm saying I'm an old makeup guy. I'm an old makeup guy. I ain't talking about the kind you put on your face. I'm a makeup type of guy.

You ain't going to be bad at all. Clearly something on your mind you want somewhere else. I got you. Take this to bed with you. But you know what, Ocho? I think that's an older generation thing because my grandmother and grandfather didn't sleep in the same bed.

Because remember I told you, I slept with my grandmother, my brother slept with my grandfather. That's right, that's right. I think that's an older generation thing. I know a lot of older people that their parents, when I said older, I'm talking about my age, and their parents didn't sleep together. Right. So I think that's an older generation thing. I think now people automatically assume if you're sleeping in separate beds, there's something going on. My grandmother and grandfather have no issues, but they just sleep in separate beds.

So to each. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe we need to adapt to some of the older ways today. Maybe we'll eliminate some of the problems that we have in today's era in society that maybe being up under each other 24 7 maybe it's not a good thing well it wasn't over there 24 7 because that man was working and normally a lot of times my grandma was right side of working too or he was you know he was off and my grandmother was doing her thing so it wasn't this 24 hour and there weren't all these other options that were available also to either one of them now that's not to say that, you know, people didn't get around because they did. But the options that's available to this generation

wasn't available to even my generation when I was coming up. And it damn sure wasn't available to my mom and my grandparents' generation. So things are a lot different now. Yeah, much different. Much more difficult. I mean, obviously during this day and age

and time that we're in now, one of the key things that you need for one is discipline. Discipline. That's the key word. That's the key word in anything, especially in this day and age, because you have access, social media, over

exposure. Over exposure to anything. And there will always be somebody finer. There will always be somebody with more money. There will always be someone with prettier feet. There will always be someone with a better car. Well, I'm just throwing out all the different things that you'll be able to find out here. Why you can't say eyes?

Why you can't say lips? Why you can't say legs? Why you can't say calves? Okay, there will say lips? Why you can't say leg? Why you can't say calf? Okay, there always be somebody with bigger lips. What else? There always be somebody with a bigger ass. I was trying to hit on all the different characteristics depending on what people like.

And you got to have discipline to understand that if you're locked in, you got to be locked in. And it's it's it's difficult for a lot of people you know i i uh i teach i have a i'm you know i do therapy you need to be in therapy with your feet not a lot of people come to me to help them with some of the problems that they're having due to the overexposure of of issues with them trying to be on point. And I've been guiding people in the right way. So that's something that I'm

proud of. You probably have rail soaking up feet in vinegar. Have old pickle, old rail pickle feet. Rail got old pickle feet. And you be... No, no, no, no, no. No vinegar. But I do send her to get the fish treatment pedicure, which is nice.

All your feet? Yeah. is, which is nice. Oh, you're on your feet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about that big fish? When she get home to be gnawing on them?

You. Oh, big old black, white bands. You. That's the fish. My bad. I'm about to wake up okay okay okay i gotta say that uh lamar says the ravens are underdog isn't taking the bait the ravens can clinch the number one seed if they beat the dolphins on sunday the ravens are three and a half point favorite when it was pointed out to

lamar that the ravens are no longer the underdogs. He said, we're the underdogs. We're the underdogs. It was just the team that this team is the Ravens. We don't know about the Ravens. Now it's, Oh, they're the number one team. So we're playing.

We're, we're not paying any mind to that. I feel like it's bait. That's clickbait. Well, Lamar for the, like the last six six weeks everybody said that you were the second best you're the number one team in afc you're the second best team in the nfl and you just went to the best team's house kicked up in their ass and came home so i don't you know it and i get it you

know embarrassed embarrassed them i don't i don't let me let me tell you how we did it i know that And I get it. Embarrassed. Embarrassed them. Let me tell you how we did it. I know that when I was in Denver, I know what we said publicly. Oh, that team is good. Oh, their defense is like this here. Their offense is so good. They got a lot of good players.

Privately, we're going to kick the ish out of them. That's what we said. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Same in the Super Bowl. That's what we said. Oh yeah. Definitely. Same in the Super Bowl. Ocho, we played the Packers. Oh man, they got Brett Favre, MVP. Three-time MVP. Back to back to back. Oh, they just won the Super Bowl last year. They got

Reggie White, all pro. They got Leroy Butler. Oh, they got Brett. They got Antonio Freeman. They got Robert Brooks. They got Mark Chamorro. Oh, we just hyping them up. We're going to kick their shit out of them. Yeah.

You know, I think, how come, well, I think it's more frowned upon. I would like players, I wish players were, there are not very many that are keen on doing so, is giving team political material and telling people exactly how they feel instead of being politically correct. They need to bring that back. They need to bring that back. Say what you really feel. I wish players would do that now. I think the player's word is the coach's decision.

You see how Debo and Brad Bear were going at it a little bit? Tell people how you really feel about somebody. If you don't think they're good, say it. It's okay. I enjoy the banter back and forth.

I love it. I love it. I think we need more of that instead of every answer being politically correct. Descripted. Yeah, everybody. Yeah, man.

Let's have some fun. Before we head on to that, The Temptations did have a song, Ain't Too Proud to Beg, in 1966. And TLC had a song, Ain't Too Proud to Beg, in 1966. And TLC had a song, Ain't Too Proud to Beg, in 1991. Oh, so. TLC, the rendition was the original, the original is the Temptations.

OK, I like that. I like that. I just learned. Yeah, I think the thing is, that's the only time Mike has ever said anything about, Sheldon, just make sure, hey, I know you want to say this, I know, but just do me this one solid. Don't say anything, just pump him up. I think, Mike,

we're going to kick the ass. He said, I know it. He said, I know 84, I know it. So, you know, I'm pumping him up. Man, Leroy, he's tough. He's the best strong safety in the game. Leroy Butler? If they put him on me, I'm going to be the Super Bowl MVP. All right, that's what I'm thinking to myself. Now, I ain't going to lie to you, Ochoa.

I'm saying, if they put a man, please. They say, well, what if Leroy? I said, boy, if they put Leroy Butler on me, man to man, and he cover me for the entire game, I'd empty my bank account, and I'd leave the country and never come back. See, that's the type of talk we need today. They wouldn't dare put a safety on me. And that was, Ochoa, that was my absolute pride. see that's the type of talk they need today that's the type of talk they need today

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man man man at your player, that permeates negativity. When you have what you have, when you have what you have the first five years, that poker face, we know we're going to win at the end. That permeates positivity. Get back to being positive. It's like my little kids running around for Christmas. We got you a

Christmas tree full of presents, and you're acting like spoiled brats. What's your take on what Dante said? The human joystick. I's your take on what Dante said? The human joystick. I mean, I like what I understand what Dante Hall is coming from. I understand where he's coming from. But Dante Hall, you're not in their shoes.

You're not putting in the work. You don't understand the frustration they're going through. You should understand it. You should understand why they're screaming. You should understand why Travis Kelsey is upset. You should understand why Patrick Mahomes is upset. Have you seen what he's been having to deal with? I mean, it's common sense.

So why even come out saying something like that? Because you understand the emotions and how it feels to go through practice and practice and practice and to go into games

and have things not come into fruition the way you work on them. It's tough. It's frustrating. It really is. I know what that feels like. And Dante know i know what that feels like and the dante hall should know what that feels like i'm not i understand what he's what he's saying you

know saying all the right things but come on man come on man you you play the game you know why he's screaming you know why he's frustrated and at times it's passion it's okay to show it don't bottle that shit up don't bottle it up let that shit out it's okay yeah show it. Don't bottle that shit up. Don't bottle it up. Let that shit out. It's okay. Yeah. You know, um, Dante Hall was the first.

I know dads get credit for. Oh, he was the first. He was the first to throw up the eggs. Guess what team he did against? Y'all. No, y'all.

Oh, he did. Oh, he did. They hit. They blocked up in the back man that was a bull job you know it too nah man why you you did you ain't play with al wilson well al boy that one that one hit uh i got al came in 99 i left and then i came back 0203 so i played three years with Al. Oh, yeah.

Now you talk about some moves. Yeah. Man, he was back. Dante? Oh, yeah. It's a human joystick. Yeah. It was like, okay, when you press two buttons at the same time, whatever you get, you don't know where that man

gonna go. That's him. That man going to go. That's him. That's what he do. That's him. You're right about that. He was a real deal. Alabama Jalen Monroe says, former OC and current Patriots offensive coordinator, Bill O'Brien told him he should not be a quarterback. He asked the reporter,

how would you feel if I told you you suck? Look where I am right now. So who gets the last laugh? Michael Eves teed it. Michael Eves had a great tweet. What Bill O'Brien was really trying to say that he didn't know how to coach such a talent as Jalen Milrow, but instead of dressing his shortcut,

his own shortcomings, Bill O'Brien tried to project them onto him, onto the player. Sometimes some things that's been happening for decades, especially when it comes to black quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely. That's nothing new. It's always been that way.

It's always been that way, and it will always continue to be that way. It will never change. Yes, sir. You didn't have people that, when you was growing up, said you wasn't going to be nothing? So what's different about this oh yeah exactly

my my teacher my teacher's in high school still to this day I see him still to this day yes I see him man I love you

man what you told me back then I really appreciate that I really appreciate that because the lit a fire under my ass I really like that I don't I don't see that as some see it as a negative.

Some going to the dumps. Some, oh, I feel bad. Or some, oh, look what he said about me. Me? Me, mentally, I'm a little different. I'm a little different mentally. Here's the thing. Nick Saban told Trayvon Diggs the exact same thing.

Trayvon Diggs came to Alabama as a four-star wide receiver. He said, son, I think you should move to DB. Trayvon Diggs is an all-pro DB. That he is. We got to stop like, oh, this. Oh, come on. Yes. I get it. I get it.

But y'all make it seem like only athletes get told that I'm sure they're musicians. I'm sure they're actors. I'm sure they're entertainers in all walks of life. I was told I'm not going to make it. I listened to the one person that told me that I was going to be something and I was going to make it me. Yeah.

Because what y'all had, y'all couldn't run for me. Y'all couldn't catch for me. Y'all couldn't lift for me. Y'all couldn't train for me. So how you can tell me what I can be when you not me? Yeah.

And those that do tell you you can't do something, that should be all the motivation you need. I mean, honestly, that shouldn't be your motivation. You should already be motivated to want to do something anyway. should be all the motivation you need. I mean, honestly, that shouldn't be your motivation. You should already be motivated to want to do something anyway, but hearing someone say you can do something should be that

much more motivating to want to achieve and attain that goal, whatever it may be and whatever respective craft that it is you do. I like it. Tell me what I can do. And then when I do it, I mean, think about it, Ocho. See, look. Tell me what I can do. Thank you. I like it. And then when I do it. I like it.

I mean, think about it, Ocho. See, my job is not to prove. See, Jalen Moreau's job shouldn't be to prove him wrong. I'm going to prove me right. Right. Because all the people that told me along the way that, oh, Shannon, you great in high school, but wait until you get to college. Right. And when I got to college, wait until you get to the NFL.

All along the way, they got to watch me and say, damn, he said that. Damn, he said he was going to do that. He said he was going to be this. He said he was going to be that. So why am I listening to you? What you say when you got no. Here's the thing. Oh, Joe, you got no control on what I can or can't do.

Yeah. The best thing about it. I'm not computer generated. So you don't control anything. I control what I become. And I know what God told me. I know what I prayed for. And I didn't pray for you to have an opinion about me because your opinion

don't matter about me. That's crazy. And that's the thing. People get caught up with. He's opinion don't matter about me that's crazy that's the thing people get called up what he's i don't care hell i had women told me i ain't gonna be nothing and damn okay yes it's okay okay watch watch it down hey boy listen but but women women vicious man everybody vicious they don't they don't they don't they don't love they don't like to see the process but they love the finished product of course they don't like the process but they love the finished product when you're hurt what would you say what would you wouldn't you do? So you have to look at it from that. Okay. We're about to break

up. I'm going to go my way. I'm going to go her your way. See, when you tell me that, what made you say that of all the things that you could have said? Because you know I'm going somewhere. You tried to put doubt in my mind. Yeah. I don't doubt me. She tried to put doubt in my mind. Yeah.

I don't doubt me. She mad, she mad, she mad. Yeah, you mad. You can't contaminate my thoughts because what you say right now can't undo the 12, 15, 20 years that I thought that I knew I was going to become something.

So when you uttering, I ain't going to be nothing, I ain't this, I ain't that, you knowing i ain't gonna be nothing i ain't this i ain't that you know you ain't ish nah well maybe i ain't what ish could have been doo-doo but i ain't with you no more you know what i'm saying don't you die hit him with that right right right y'all can't break me i'm unbreakable you know you know the funny you know what the bad part is a lot of people are full with those words a lot of people are affected so much by words especially in today's era today's society oh he said this or or she said that it bothered it what happened to sticks and stones

may break my bones but words don't everybody's so sensitive so like oh my god you can't say that oh my god what are you doing like so what it's just it's just words if it does if it don't apply let it motherfucking exactly if it don't apply let it because my thing is if jayla moreau believe what one man told him and he let it change it let him make creep doubt in his own mind well you weren't meant to do that anyway well maybe it worked though because look at him now maybe he used that as motivation motivation or extra fuel because look at him now the play that he made against auburn yeah the play of the plays that he made against number one, Georgia and to get his team in the college football playoff. Yeah.

Yeah. So young man, don't worry about what somebody tell you what you can't do. Believe what you told yourself you could do. And that's all that matters. Yeah. That's it. The daily hustle said,

this has been the most passionate Ocho I've ever been with the honest critique he's finally he's finally gave in Ocho been on his thing today he been on his thing yeah you been on your grind today I just I been me though I been me I'm always he said you this

is the most passionate Ocho we've ever been and with honest critiques. You can think that's what I've been trying to tell you. I ain't been honest before. Sometimes they feel you misrepresent the truth. Oh, my bad.

Today is Denzel's 69th birthday. Yesterday. What you got? That's what you got? That's my boy. That's my boy. Name? I got a story.

I know I got a story. Go ahead and tell your story. What you got? Ain't really no story. Nobody can say they got cursed out by Denzel Washington except me.

What did he curse you out for? Acting a fool. Acting a fool when I was when I was I was, uh, this, well, you know, I had a, had a, you know, I had a, the NFL team acting disgruntled and was trying to get out of Cincinnati and the Redskins are off of Cincinnati, two first round picks and the Bengals and Mike Brown was like, you ain't finna set that precedent. Think all you got to do is act a fool and we're going to trade you up out of here. Man, bring your head back down.

So he was getting on me. We were sitting on the court side. I had my son with me. Lil CJ was, I don't know how Lil CJ was about. Well, damn, mother, you look like you're 17. What year was this? Was the internet even available back then? That's what I'm saying.

Don't do me like that. Yeah, but... What year was this? I don't do me like that yeah but uh oh joe what year was this cussing my ass out i don't i don't remember i don't remember my i took i got matter of fact i got tickets from kobe kobe kobe got me because i see because you know i wouldn't pay him no course as he's not back then shit but that that was that was that was that was a great experience man and being able to sit next to jesus and get my ass cussed out my son don't know what's going on. He looking the wrong way. Yeah.

I mean, I'm looking at it. That looked like it's about 2009. Yeah, okay. Around then. Maybe 2008, 2009, because I remember I was in trouble. I was trying to get up out of there. We had just had a losing season, and I was trying to do up out of there we had just had a losing season and I was trying to do things behind closed doors and obviously you know

they always leak shit somebody always leaks something you already be talking about you be told you be on toes and elbows and all kind of holes ain't nothing wrong listen we gonna get you on some toes man we gonna get you on some toes I man. We're going to get you on some toes.

I don't know who. Pig feet. I'm going to find you somebody. I'm going to be on the pig feet hard. Listen, if you can eat pig feet, if you can eat raccoon, soup, and all that other stuff, and if you can eat roadkill and whatever else you be eating, you can suck on some toes. But I'm just saying, Ocho, but see, you off the muscle with that, Ocho. Can we work up to that?

There is no reason at our big age that we can't meet somebody on the first date and go all in what are we waiting for what are you waiting for i'm excuse me all my tongues to be the middle of the table yes yes when you play i don't even play poker i ain't even no gambler you know how you when you're all in or you put all in. Ocho, normally when they go all in, I mean, sometimes they try to bluff you off a hand, but a lot of times when they go all in, Ocho, they got, they got, they got it. They got the goods.

Nah. Nah. Listen, life is short and you never know when it's time to go. So whenever you have opportunity, you need to go all in. Well, I need to see, you know, I need to see the flop. You know, the flop is the first three cards. And hell, I might need to see the turn,

which is the next card. Okay. And then the river's on the end. Okay. So you're speaking terminology that I don't understand. I was with you for a minute, but I don't gamble,

so I have no idea what you're talking about. I mean, I don't know what you're... So, you know, I've known Denzel because his son used to train with my trainer, gamble so i have no idea what you're talking about i mean i don't know i don't know what you're so you know i've known denzel because his son used to train with my trainer uh john david when he went to morehouse and so i met him a couple times and then uh just this year when lebron broke the record uh he was at the game and i got an opportunity to talk to him i hadn't actually i hadn't seen him personally since uh uh john david was a student at morehouse and. It was great to catch up with him. I got an opportunity to meet his wife,

John David's mom, Pauletta. It was great talking to her and meeting her. Denzel has been great. Actually, they filmed the movie Glory in Savannah. Hey, man, listen.

That was his first role. Best Supporting Actor with Matthew Broderick was Lee. hey man listen that was his first that was his first role he got bro best supporting actor actor with matthew broderick when we talk about movies and i don't think a lot of people in the chat have seen glory if you would ask me the name my favorite denzel movies glory's always been number one it's always been number one because denzel is one of the few actors a lot of people love to say he played the same character well he played the same character to you because you don't watch the rest of his movies glory he had range john q is completely different character from who he was in glory and then when he's in fences fences is a completely different character from the person in john q and glory that is the range in the denzel that i've grown to love and if you ask

people what's your favorite denzel movie they say the same stuff they say training day malcolm x they say uh malcolm x they say man on fire he's a great method actor he's one of the method actors so him playing the role of somebody else is easy because it's art. That's what he does. He gets in the character extremely well. When you watch training day, that's Denzel. If you sit down and talk with him,

that's him. He's not even acting. He just being himself. And you would never understand it until you actually meet him and sit down and have a conversation with him. There are a few people on earth and one of your good friends and one of my good friends is one of them as well that can command the ear when they talk. Denzel is one of them. Ray Lewis is another one. Deion Sanders is another one that can command the air when they talk i'm talking about it's captivating when they speak in the way they word things in the dialogue it just it's it's

unbelievable in a sense i don't even know i don't know how to explain it it's something about ray when ray get to preaching or ray get to talking to you or dion get to talking to you and we talk about in a serious manner. Not the Dion everybody on the chat got to see. I'm talking about something that got to do business

or something that have to do with life or relationships or something like that. So, it's unbelievable seeing them get in that mode of serious.

Your top five movies was Inside Man. I love that movie with clive owens and uh oh yeah that's jodie foster uh q atel edge of four and uh christopher plumber yeah um oh no these are mine so i got training day my top five was training day malcolm x fences crimson tide cry freedom i don't know if you remember Cry Freedom You should did your top 10

I got Inside Man Devil in Blue Dress Harlem Nights, Man on Fire Look, I love American Gangster, I love Deja Vu I love, you know, I mean look It's so hard

Hurricane, it is just so hard. Hurricane. It is just so hard. Oh, Ruben Carter. Ruben Carter. That was a good one. Because he plays the role so well. Well, yeah. A flight.

I mean. Listen, flight was phenomenal. A soldier story. Yeah, soldier story. That's old school. Pelican brief. Hey, listen, pelican brief pelican brief all right my my top 10 obviously number one is glory two and john q three is fences four for me is preach's wife

then i'm going malcolm x man on fire remember the title. I can get down with that. Inside Man. Then I got Flight. Then I have Training Day. Hey, we ain't even mentioned American Gangster. Think about it, American Gangster. But that's Denzel. That's him. He didn't have to do much.

He's in character. He's portraying Frank Lucas, but it's still Denzel. I don't know how to explain it. Mo' Better Blues is good, boy. People don't remember him. Really, that's the only movie I can remember. He played

Devil in Blue Dress, which was a comedy with the... What's the guy's name mouse who uh what's the black guy name he from denver went to denver east high school oh what's the uh actor uh in uh devil in blue dress that's my guy and don cheeto don cheeto is my ohle is my man that's my man I couldn't think of his name he from Denver I used to see him all the time went to Denver East High School

man but then I mean it just goes to show you Denzel how long he's been great yeah it shows you how long he's been great not good great great great and so you know i i i love i'm not gonna say it i mean i've seen just about everything you know everything that uh

philadelphia i don't know if you remember the philadelphia with uh uh tom hanks tom hanks is another one that got range yeah i! I mean, big and flat. Oh, man. Philadelphia with him and Road to Perdition. Forrest Gump. I mean, look. Man, listen. Those are some of my favorite actors.

When we talk about range, Tom Hanks, obviously Denzel. Remember, you know Ed Norton? Yeah. Primal Fear. Ed Norton fromorton, yeah. Primal Fear. Edward Norton from Primal Fear. Primal Fear. What was that movie he was in

where he was a gay that had all them tattoos? Oh, History of American History. Yes. Man, that was a good one. That was a good one. What about, God, Lee, it's slipping my mind.

McAvoy. James McAvoy. Do you saw Split? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Crazy, crazy range. I mean, guys, another guy that doesn't get the credit for the range and he's passed, Robin Williams.

Robin Williams had crazy range. That was a real deal. He was a real deal. Great. He was a real deal. Look, I love him. I love Samuel Jackson. From Miss Doubtfire, the Peter Pan. From Samuel Jackson when he was...

What's the one where... Remember when Samuel Jackson was holding up McDowell's? He was sweeping the floor. Yeah. From the time he was Gator. Yeah. He was in All-Star War. Uh-huh.

He was in the... You know. What's the one where he was the teacher? Coach Carter? A professor. No, no, no. Oh, you're talking about Samuel L. Jackson. Oh, you're talking about Rob Williams.

You're talking about he was Mr. Not Doubtfire. I know exactly what you're talking about. It was more of a serious movie. I know he was a professor. I can't remember you're talking about. It was more of a serious movie. I know he was a professor. I can't remember the name of it. I can't think of it.

I know exactly what you're talking about. But, man. Ocho, you have 20 minutes to survive. Just 20 minutes for $100 million to survive war. You got to survive a bear, a tiger, a croc, or a hippo. Which one you take? We all did. You crazy.

We all... Come on, man. For one, hippo. First of all, the hippos are the most dangerous because they kill more people in Africa than any other. In Africa than any of them. In Africa than any, any other animal. Yeah, they're territorialists. That's why, that's why, that's why you said, that's the first thing I named and I said,

you're not surviving. That's what Robin Williams was in, dead poison society. Somebody just put it up in the chat. Dead poison society, that's it, that's it, that's it. All right, number two. That chapter was great too. What was it, what was it, what was it? You got a bear, a tiger, a tiger a croc or hippo

oh well croc would be your best bet i got it croc i got it i got it mojo i had to hear it i just got to get him on his back all i gotta do hey see all of his pressure is doing this yeah the jaws once i keep his got his mouth I got it. Flip him on his back. Wait, hold on. Do you know how strong a gator is? I'm going to have a hundred mil. Man, you're going to get yourself hurt, man. You're going to have a missing arm.

I'm going to have a hundred mil. I'm going to have gator tail for lunch. I'm going to have gator tail. You're going to have a hundred mil with one arm oh sure i got this i got this uh-huh no you don't undo please don't underestimate me animal i'm gonna have gator tail and i'm gonna have me some fresh boots uh we talk about animals i'm an animal it's about animals you do realize the most dangerous animal

ever created was a man. They cause more destruction than any animal ever. Yes. Yes. When we are equipped to destroy everything else, but you're not equipped.

Only rats and mosquitoes have caused more destruction. I'm taking my chance. I'm taking my chance with the croc. Give me the croc. Give me the croc. No, you're not going to make it. There's so many different variables

that come into play. The size of the croc. Are you in water? Are you on land? I want to go land. I got it, Mocho. I got it, Mocho. I got it, Mocho. You know how long 20 minutes...

Do you know how long 20 minutes is? Once I get him on his back, I'm going to say, hey, I'm going to get him on his back. How are you going to get him on his back? Watch. Don't worry about it. I can't tell you

because they might put you to it and then you'd get my hundred million. I ain't telling you. But you'll see. You'll see. I got it, Mojo. Hey, you sound like the dudes on Twitter talking about, oh, if it was

me and a gorilla, you better help the gorilla because I could whoop a gorilla. Not understanding the strength and power that these animals possess. Well, first of all, a chimpanzee is two to three times. A chimpanzee is two to three times as strong as the average man. A silverback is eight times. Time, yeah.

I don't think people understand that. They just look at videos and thinking like... That joke about all muscle. Do you see? All muscle. Man, no. I don't want no part of the silverback. I don't want no part of the silverback.

I don't want no part of no grizzly bear. I don't want no part of no tigerback. I don't want no part of the silverback. I don't want no part of no grizzly bear. I don't want no part of no tiger because you have to understand what they can take down. I mean, even a crocodile. Crocodile is less dangerous. I mean, now we're talking about in their habitat. So I feel comfortable, more comfortable on the ground than I do.

The hippo is just as dangerous anywhere. And land on water. I don't want no part of that. A bear and tiger, they is just as dangerous anywhere. Man, shh. And land or water. I don't want no part of that. A bear and tiger, they're just as dangerous on either. Land or water. All four can kill you on the land, but I like my chances better against the crocodile on the land

as opposed to any of these other animals on land. You got no chance with the hippo, the bear, and plus, like you said, how big is the space? Because you got no chance. You got no chance against a tiger or... I don't care if they ever give a damn how big the space is because once it sees you, it's a wrap.

Think about this. You ever had cats before? No. Have you ever seen a cat's reflexes? Just a regular domestic cat. Yes. Domesticated cat. Just regular.

You see the reflexes? Now, imagine the reflexes of a lion or tiger. Oh, Joe. You could take a cat. It's even worse. You could take a cat and hold it by its legs, and you got him. He's this far, and you drop him.

That joke will land on his feet. Land on his feet. Crazy. Unbelievable. That's why they say, oh, he got cat-like reflexes. They don't say dog. They don't say any other animal. They say cat-like.

Yeah, that's what they say about me off that line. Off that line of damage. Jose Cardoza said, Uncle Nocho love the show. What's your guy's top five actors or actresses? Top five. I got to go.

Ocho for me. I'm going with the actors and actresses that I've seen. So I can't go Bogart and I can't go, you know, Brando.

Are you? Because the only thing I've ever seen a Marlon Brando. I'm talking about I've seen that, you know, what you. Because the only thing I've ever seen of Marlon Brando, I'm talking about, I've seen the, you know, what you call them? Godfather movies. But the last movie that I actually saw

him, that Mander was The Island of Dr. Moreau. And it wasn't very good. So anybody that saw Brando in his last movie role, The Island of Dr. Moreau, it wasn't very good. He had gotten, let himself get out of shape, but I'm going to go with, like, I've seen

in my time, I like Denzel, I like Tom Hanks, I like Robin Williams, I like Daniel Day-Lewis, and I like Hey, that's my guy. I go Sam Jackson for me.

Women, I'm going to go Viola Davis. I'm going to go... That's a good one. What's the... Viola Davis one for me. What's that lady name? She's been, uh, Michelle, not Michelle. What's the other one name? Meryl Streep.

Go on Meryl. Oh yeah. Yeah. Go on Meryl. I'm going, uh, Ooh. Jodie Foster what you got good one good one

many women is not nearly as easy for women it's harder alright I forgot I forgot one of the guys that I really like. Anthony Hopkins. Oh, yeah.

Anthony's good. Really good. Really good. Really good. Oh, man. I can't. Oh, Lord have mercy, Ocho. Women, women, women.

Come on now. It's difficult. You know what? You know who I like Ocho Octavia Spencer who that Octavia is good I love Octavia Spencer Octavia is good

and you know what I like Octavia Octavia is really good I was gonna be snide but I ain't gonna say nothing about that man why I take Angela Bassett very nice it's Tina Turner she plays some good roles especially in um wait next year when she burned that. No. Yeah. She plays some good roles. Well, my five favorite actors to me, obviously, number one for me is Daniel Day-Lewis.

I've said that many times. Those in the chat, you know Christoph Waltz. Please tell me who Christoph Waltz is. If you don't, please Google him. Denzel Washington, of course. Daniel Day-Lewis. Now, like Edward Norton. Oh, you can course. Daniel Day-Lewis. And I like Edward Norton. Oh, you can't have Daniel Day-Lewis twice. I said him already?

Okay, okay. My bad, my bad. Edward Norton. And James McAvoy. I know everybody in the chat, I know you know who James McAvoy is. He's the real MFF deal. The real deal. As far as women go, you know, MeryAvoy is He's the real MFF deal The real deal As far as women go

Meryl Streep is my first My second would be Claire Danes I'm sure some of you that Have seen the movie Temple Grandin Claire Danes is the real deal I forgot the sitcom she was on as well Number three for me You like Christopher Walton

And Glorious Bastards and Django Yes sir Yes sir well um number three for me like christopher walson and glorious bastards and uh django huh yes sir yes sir yes sir he's amazing he's great yeah very good very good actor and um the hateful eight i don't know if you saw the hateful eight christopher walson's hateful late too with samuel with samuel jackson very good movie um God, Lee, Women is Hard. I got to go with Angela Bassett as well. Scarlett Johansson. Julia Roberts.

Julia is unbelievable. But I don't think people don't realize I think for me, Jodie Foster doesn't get the credit that she deserves because she was nominated for an award I think at like 14 and then in Silence of the Lambs. Yeah. Austin doesn't get the credit that she deserves because she was nominated for an award, I think at like 14. And then in Silence of the Lambs.

Yeah. Anthony Hopkins. Man. That Clarice Starling. Clarice. Oh, what about... It's so many. You know, I got to go with Miss Viola Davis. Oh, no. Oh, snap. What about Nnamdi? Nnamdi's wife.

Kerry Washington. Kerry Washington. She's good. She's good. She's good. I think the roles that they get aren't as prominent as, you know, the Claire Danes and the Meryl Streep. But I think what has happened now is that when we see Meryl Streep, we already think, okay, that role is good. That's Oscar. So we don't really, we don't, like I said, a lot of these, you know, every role is not, but it's just like, it's just something

about Meryl because she's been nominated so many times. It's kind of like Denzel. They give such an outstanding performance. We just, even though the role might not have been meant for an Oscar, they give you Oscar-worthy performances. even though the role might not have been meant for an Oscar they give you Oscar worthy performance yeah most definitely you know my boo thang oh Regina

you know Regina Hall yeah oh that's your boo thang name now let me know if you want me to put a word in for you Regina King is another one yeah Regina King that's a good one that's a good one Pam Greer Yeah, Regina King. That's a good one. That's a good one. People love Pam Greer.

Patrick Woolery asked, would you entertain the idea of going on Bear Grylls? And Ocho, would you go on Hot Ones? And Ocho, that's a lot of money for the swear jar tonight. Yeah, you know, you're going to have some money. You're going to have a lot of money for that. Wait, money for what?

All the curse words. I ain't even cursed tonight. What you talking about? They been keeping count. I ain't been keeping count. They been keeping count. I guarantee you, I ain't cursed more than twice.

Well, don't worry about it. Put it in the jar. That's only $10. Sidney Poitier, people got Sidney Poitier. You know what, who he left off? Sidney Poitier people got Sidney Poitier you know what who he left off Sidney Poitier was the real deal Hillary Swank

man what you know about Hillary Swank but her first Oscar came for Boys Don't Cry about Brandon Tina I ain't see that one I remember Million and Dollar Baby. You got to see it, Ocho. You got to see it.

What's the first one called? Boys Don't Cry. What's the name of it? You got to see this movie. You got to see this. Boys Don't Cry. Wait. Yellow Ring Swing?

Baby. You seen the movie Boys Don't Cry Before? Okay, she ain't seen that. You gave her something to watch. Man. It was good. It was amazing.

It's based on a true story. Wait, do I need tissue? You're going to need tissue at the end. Oh, shit. You're going gonna need tissue at the end oh shit you're gonna need tissue at the end you know I get emotional now I can't you see that

you can't be having me yeah yeah you're gonna cry you're gonna see it you're gonna cry at the end and like I said it's a true story right

yo what about Sandra Bullock I like Sandra Bullock I like Sandra Bullock yeah Sandra Bullock yeah um

Sandra Bullock I'm. Sandra Bullock. Yeah. Sandra Bullock. I'm trying to think who else. Yo, what about Monique? Oh, Monique. Would you put Monique in the category? But she wasn't in enough roles. But when she played that role. Right.

Which one? Precious. Precious. Oh, man. That was a performance. Yeah. that was a performance that was a performance that's acting Jane Fonda

but Jane I mean she had some roles I think 9 to 5 with Lily Tomlin and all those but she was a little bit before my time like I said I'm kind of staring you know my era that i remember going to see and watching them um although i'm a little bit older than you uh yeah

angelina man speak speaking of michelle michelle angelina jolie oh you know what we got? Sharon Stone. No. Sharon Stone. Charlize Theron. And Monster. When she played Ali Warno. Yeah. Big Ali. Big Ali didn't play the drum. Big Ali didn't play. Hey.

She put that 22 on him. She put that thing on him. A lion ass. That was classic. A lion ass. That was classic. That was the right name because she was a monster. Yeah. Yeah, baby.

Oh, damn. Taraji. What about Holly? Meg Ryan. Taraji P. Meg Ryan. Nice. Meg Ryan.

Well, shit. We might have... Meg Ryan. We should have went goddamn Charlie's Angels. Cameron Diaz. Look. Hell, Lucy Liu. Nah, Lucy. She ain't been enough, old chump. Charlie's Angels um uh Cameron Diaz look hell hell

Lucy Liu nah Lucy she ain't been enough Ocho Sally Field yeah I mean

I remember Sally Field cool oh I can go throwback we forgot O'Farr

O'Farr I can go throwback I go I go last king of Scotland the last king of Scotland E.D.R.B

hey that E.D.R.B that was a good one that was a good one i can go throwback too you know who we forgot who al mofo pacino yo hell if we going al pacino we might as well go robert de niro too yes we ain't put leo in there leonardo dicaprio. Oh, shit. See, now you done got my memory. But see, here's the thing, Ocho. When you limited to five, now you're talking about, and we just limited to five of people that we watched. Man, we ain't put Humphrey Bogart.

We ain't put none of those. Yeah, we ain't put none of those. James Cagney, Jimmy Stewart. We ain't put none of those yeah we ain't putting none of those James Cagney Jimmy Stewart we ain't putting none of them man listen I can go back I can go back further I can go back to the Ethel Waters the Lena Warren

Cab Calloway, Fats Domino man don't maybe open it up you ever saw Green Pasture? I did not Stormy Weather? Nope Cabin in the Sky? maybe open it. You ever saw Green Pasture? I did not. Stormy Weather? Nope. Cabin in the Sky? I know about a ribbon in the sky.

Tell, tell, ask. These are old school movies. This is what my grandma had me watching. Stormy Weather with Lena Horne. Cabin in the Sky, I think Ethel Waters, and is it Gabe? Neither one of them mentioned Tom Cruise. Oh, I forgot all about Tom.

Jamie Foxx. Oh, hey, Jamie's a ranger, boy. Jamie Rangy, boy. Jamie is ranger. Yeah, yeah. Idris Elba, Morgan Freeman. Jamie is raging. Yeah, yeah. Aegis Alba, Morgan Freeman. We got to go.

Shawshank Redemption. Wait, listen, we'll be here all day. Shawshank. We'll be here all day. Oh, yeah. Matthew Young, I'm your LaVarca man, but I just ordered a bottle of LaPortier by Shea just to support you.

Matthew, I appreciate that. Thank you very much. And now when you get your bottle and you taste it, I need you to jump back in the chat and let me know what you honestly think. Upper King 8, background looking better, Ocho. Success. Nothing less. Nightcap crew worldwide.

What did it say about my background? Oh, my camera. I finally got my camera fixed. I'd like to apologize for those that have been watching me sometimes. Sometimes my camera ain't right. It's a little cloudy. Listen, I tried to get the cheapest camera possible. As you can see tonight,

everything is HD, 4K, 1080p or whatever. I don't understand all that technology shit, but I look good. I ain't got no haircut, but I look good. That's all that matters. No place underscore like home underscore homes donated $50.

I super support the channel. Just took a shot of Laporte while smoking a bomb Vita. I appreciate the support. I'm sure Ocho appreciate. Is that your cigar? Bomb Vita? Not boy Vita. Yeah, the good life.

Yeah, that's one of my, that's my line. That's my line that's my appreciate we appreciate that now you want to ask a question Devin Hester the report the king of the return specialist Deion Sanders prime time of the human joystick Dante Hall as NFL players who you picking well look Devin Hester the greatest returner Devin Hester is the greatest returner ever. Devin Hester. He's the greatest returner ever. Now, as far as just like shake you up, ain't nobody touching Dante Hall. Dante Hall was what Barry Sanders was to a running back. Barry Sanders at the kick return game. He was there as a kick returner, but returner.

Right, right. And normally you don't teach a returner to do all that herky-jerky, just like hit the hole. But, man, that joke with that man. He putjerky just like hit the hole. But man, that joker there, man. He put a lot of people on the dirt. Dante Hall, he made moves with a purpose. He wasn't making moves just to make a move. He's making moves to go north.

He might got to go east and west, but he's making the moves east and west to get north. Harry donated $100. I'm putting $100 on the Browns Lions Super Bowl. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Wait, Super Bowl? What you playing, Madden? That man say he

must be he trying to retire from work because $100 on one of them get to the Super Bowl and one of them winning it. Oh, that's going to pay him some big bucks and no whammies. A lot of money. A lot of money. A lot of money. Forgot about Eric Metcalf

with the great return of Mel Gray. Who else we got? Pimp and Sneak, please answer my question. How do you guys feel about fans coming up to players out in public when you're with your family?

I'm a huge fan of you guys on and off the field. I love it. If anybody is in the chat, I'm sure it is that have met me before. I apologize for invading your space. People walk up to me,

I told you before, we talked about this before. Man, I act like I've known people for 30 years. I act like I just got out of jail. Man, I'm hugging. Man, don't shake my hand, man. Bring your ass in here, man.

But it's weird and it throws people off sometimes because I always greet everybody with a I love you and a hug and we sit there and hold a conversation like I've known they ass all my life. Before I answer that, my part of the question,

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me or sign this autograph. Damn, like that? You see the response? Thank you. Thank you. No, bro, can you ask? Hey. That was aggressive. And that's how people come up. Hey, take a picture with me or sign an autograph. Oh, you're going to sign

an autograph for me? Oh, you really think so? Hmm. Yeah. And please, and please hey i want to call let me call my husband let me call the i don't want to be on you i don't want to be on facetime how about we just take a picture together right right right and listen i i accept i mean i'm yeah maybe i'm a little different because I'm not in public much. But when I am and I'm all in, I'm FaceTime and people. Acting like, man, where you at? We are here having fun. You sit in that fucking home and shit.

I just do them because it's very seldom that I'm out. So when I am, I'd be I'd be ready for whatever. Oh. OK. OK. that I'm out. So when I am, I'd be ready for whatever. Hold on. Okay. Hey, Jack said, hey, Uncle Ocho, love the show here since day one.

Can you please wish my girl a happy birthday, Whitney? I wish Ocho could sing. Whitney, hey, Jack. I don't know what his real name is, but that's his... We can't sing? No, we can't sing. And Whitney, he

wanted to wish you a happy birthday. We want to wish you a happy birthday. Happy birthday. Enjoy. Hopefully you enjoyed this day or if it's tomorrow, enjoy the day and many more to come. So happy birthday, Whitney. Happy birthday, Whitney. Turn up. Marvin Bracey Williams Jr.

donated and he's asking, appreciate y'all giving, tracking. I thought that was you Marvin. And that's Marvin. Marvin Bracey Williams Jr. donated, and he's asking, I appreciate y'all giving track. I thought that was you, Marvin. And tell Marvin, tell Marvin stop being scared to race me, man. I appreciate y'all giving track and feel some love on the podcast. Nah, bro. Hey, look, that's my favorite sport to watch. So I know, you know, the 400 meters, you know, look, I'm a meter. I like the 400, anything, 400, 200,

100 meters. The 1500, I like that too. But I just love track and field. I love the competition. I love track. Obviously, you know, my daughter's at University of Kentucky running right now. Ocho Cinco!

You ain't no hour. You can't turn your head all the way around. Hold on. Hold on hold on hold on hold on i'd be more i'd be more of a racing in the hundred though ask him ask him in the chat ask him what happened when we raced at uh anson park in miami look blue right by him he didn't know i was that fast ask hold on ask fred curly what i did to him oh joe you, the difference between them, see, like, 4-3 is fast for us. I'm not 4-3. I'm 4-1.

I ran 4-1. I ain't run no 4-3. I ran 4-1. I mean, them guys, if they run 4-3 flat, they're going to be disappointed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're running 4-2. Listen, the 40-yard dash for the boys is they drive phase. That's the 40.

Yeah. They might run 3-9, 4-flat, 7. Yeah. Easy. Yeah. With a good start. Easy. Marvin, I love you, baby.

Hope everything is good. Appreciate it, man. Hopefully you have a great year. How you don't have Dan Campbell coach of the year when the Lions have been bad since I've been alive 30 years without a division one pride you're right Dan Campbell has been unbelievable when he came in there he said we gonna bite off kneecaps we go hey

we kick it ass and take a name and here they are top of the NFC North congratulations yeah that ain't I mean yeah they've been bad a long time they've had some good players good players. Good players. I'm old enough to remember when they drafted Billy Sims,

who won the Heisman at Nebraska. Excuse me, Oklahoma, I'm sorry. Barry also wore that number. A good friend of mine, J-Ball, was a nose tackle. Robert Porsche went to South Carolina State. They've had some, obviously, Megatron and Matthew Stafford. A good friend of mine who's in the Hall of Fame, Liam Barney, he wore 20. It's just something about that 20. Unfortunately, nobody is going to be able to get it now because Liam wore it, Billy

Seals wore it, and Barry wore it. So they've taken it out of circulation now. But yeah, obviously Dan Campbell deserves some Coach of the Year. And he might win it. I mean, it's going to be hard. I mean, you look at they still have an outside chance of getting home field throughout the playoffs. I think that would go a long way.

Marvin, hey, Marvin said, Ocho, you lying. He said, you don't want no smoke. Beat the brakes Herman Moore. Yeah, Herman, you're younger than me. Hey, remember Johnny Moore? Yeah. They had Brian... No. What's the

guy's name? Oh, man. Perriman. Brett Perriman. Oh, Brett Perriman. Yeah. Marvin said, Ocho, you don't want no smoke. You don't want no smoke. Man, listen, man. Marvin don't want to do nothing with me, man.

Listen, I give Marvin five 10-meter hair starts. Hey, what, a mile? Like, I'm like that. A mile? No, in the 60. In the 60 out of 100. Them guys get out too good, Ocho. You ain't spying nothing.

I told you none of them get out the way I get out. Check this out. I told you none of them get out the way I get out. Check this out. I told you none of them get out. I do block work with these boys. Listen to me. I do block work with them. They come to me. They ask me, boy, how you transition like that out in the block.

And I tell them. Check this out. What's up? What's that? The top guys won't give any of the other guys a five-meter head start. And nothing. Right. A five-yard head start and nothing.

So what that tell you about me? That's how close it is. Because a tenth of a second. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to get you to realize. Oh, Joe. I'm willing to give him a five meters. That's how good I am.

My boy, Lowbrow. Lowbrow with a left tackle for the Lowbrow. Yeah, Low. Yeah, I know Lowbrow. Man, Wilson. I just ordered my third bottle of Shea. Absolutely love it. Can I get a discount

code? You know what? We're going to put one in there. We're going to get you a discount code. Third bottle? Shea. Absolutely love it. Can I get a discount code? You know what? We're going to put one in there. We're going to get you a discount code. Third bottle? Third is good. I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho. I won't lie. All right.

Well, when we hit that million subs, I'm going to take me a drink. Yeah. Matter of fact, I'm going to drink the whole bottle, too. Straight to the head. Baby. Baby. Baby. She say she sleep. Baby. Baby. Baby. She say she sleep.

She always sleep. Chris from Vegas. Uncle Nocho, I'm about to turn 40 for the first time in my life. Well, I hope so. Hell, I don't know anybody else that turned 40 twice. But okay, I get where you're going. I'm starting to stare at my mortality in the face. And if I, oh, you 40.

I'm starting to stare at my mortality in the face. And if I, bro, you 40. Yeah. If you're in Vegas, if you're in Vegas, hit the bunny ranch. Bro, you 40. You know something we don't know? Boy, hey, if you live in Vegas, hey, go, um, like do stuff you've never done before. Like, like I did. Like I went to Vegas and I tried out for the Chippendales.

Hey, you know, I'm thinking about doing something I ain't never done, but it don't involve no toes. That's for sure. I might do something, you know. Might do something for two something. I got plenty of time. I like that. Yeah, but Chris, you don't need to be talking like that, bro.

You're 40 years old. I mean, and you're talking about staying mortality. Mortality? Listen, man, you don't need to be talking like that, bro. You're 40 years old. I mean, and you talking about staring mortality, mortality. Listen, man, you hit 40, man. That big 40, you got to do stuff you've never done before. You in Vegas too? I ain't mean 40. I would do that at 25, 30. Hell, I ain't way to come 40.

Right? Maybe you're living different. Maybe you're living different. Yeah. You're taking life slow. I already told you, Ocho. Good times. My granddad used to say all the time, good times ain't going to hold that boy nothing. He right.

Tell me, you only live once. Do it right. That's all you should want. Well, you know what? You need to start doing it right. I can't do it wrong. I don't know how to do it wrong. Yeah, but we'll see. If you ain't stuffing no toes and licking them. I'm doing it. See, don't know how to do it wrong. Yeah, but if you ain't if you ain't sucking no toes

and licking them. I'm doing it. There you go. You're doing too much. I'm just saying. You better put some oxtail gravy on it. You won't be.

You won't be. Nah, you don't need all that. All you need is some whipped cream from behind and some toes as long as you're fine. I'm good. I'm pat.

Yeah, you heard me right. All you need is some whipped cream for behind and some toes that she fine that's it you don't need nothing else i need something else i might need to drink that whole bottle or what they're behind me eric hall says i'm upset with you you only call out certain day certain day ones i've been rocking with you since cbs i'm a truck driver eric i appreciate that bro you know what if i'm not mistaken i think i used to follow me i think i've responded to you a couple of times on twitter

i'm almost certain because this name sounds very familiar and the way it's felt. I'm almost certain I responded to you, so I appreciate the support and that goes back because I started at CBS in 2004, so if you've been rocking with Unk way back then, man, I greatly, greatly appreciate that. What else we got, Ash? What you got, Ocho? Anything else? Hold hold on before you go hold before you go

please make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button we're now let's see where we are 568 right ash let's sing a song anyway no no no no no you do realize that's copyright infringement no no we're not doing that. Well, let's sing my song. I mean, OK, we're 30 away from five hundred and sixty nine thousand subs. I was hoping we could get to five seventy before we got up here. So we go stay on just a little while longer. Hopefully. Hey, tell your friends, tell your wife, your mom, any friends, any cousins, any co-workers. Go hit that subscribe button and jump on here with Uncan Ocho, Nightcap Uncan Ocho.

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right around the corner. You can go get your bottle for you or someone that you love. Okay, we're at 569 now. For recap, the Browns beat the Jets 37-20. Really wasn't that close of a game. We discussed Russell Wilson getting benched. Seemed like the Broncos are ready to move on,

and they benched Russell to make sure he doesn't get hurt, and they're not on the hook for any more money. The Packers suspend Jahir Alexander for doing something what they deem conduct detrimental to the team uh what else we got Ocho Lamar says he's not taking the bait that the Braves are underdog and they're going to approach it like that for the rest of the season hey that's going to be a very good game oh it's gonna be great I don't we we didn't we didn't touch on that enough that's going to be a very good game and as good as the Dolphins offense is,

the same thing we thought about Mike Florio was he said the 49ers are going to kick the Ravens. You know what? Well, you saw what happened, right? You got to play this game. Hey,

Tua is going to have to play outstanding football. yeah you hey they Tua Tua is going to have to play outstanding football outstanding the last time they played

Tua threw for 447 they came from behind by 14 I think Tyreek had a monster day Jay LaWatta had a monster day

they played a lot of man coverage yeah what's them them the then the bunny rabbits. Am I right? Maybe.

I don't know. I don't wear them. I don't wear Jordans. For a nominal fee, I sell them to you, Ocho. I don't wear them. Let me show you what kind of shoes you need to wear. Hold on. Oh, they got the thing in the tongue.

They made 2,059 pair. This is number four. This is my first time seeing this. This is a 457. Oh, man. That's those stand-by-the-grill 3,000s. That's those that's those that's those grill

at three thousands and these my little these my little toga slides these my little toga slides you gotta get you some of these man you want what

you want what you got them I mean hold on they they they don't have a they got a buckle and they slide right I mean, hold on. They don't have a... They got a buckle

and they slide. Yeah, these my little slide, my little toga slide, like when I want to be fashionable. You know what I'm like? Nah. I sure hope you got some Vaseline for those heels.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Listen, I get a pedicure, a manicure every Friday friday don't do that yeah that's the oh that's it every friday you know i don't listen i i can't be the way i am about uh a woman's upkeep and maintenance when it comes to her hands and feet and don't have mine together yeah you know i'd be on point that's the grilling that's those grilling three thousand those fours so thank i get you no i'm good i'm gonna hold off i'm gonna hold off

i'm gonna hold off on those i'm gonna hold off on those for the time being on show but i i really appreciate that that's fashion man that's fair you can wear them on first date oh oh so again make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit the subscribe button we're now officially at 568 000 uh make sure you subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed you can get it also in the club shea shea but nightcap we do have our own personal podcast feed so thank you for subscribing um we've also pinned shea by laporte at the top you can go out and get yourself a bottle or someone a bottle that you love for Valentine's Day. You got New Year's, President's Day, and St. Patrick's.

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very short period of time. I thank you for the support that you've given me with club Shea Shea for three years that we've had that page up, but I promise you, next Wednesday, I got a banger coming. I got a banger coming, and I'm telling you right now, I promise you, you're going to listen

and you're going to listen and you're going to listen. I got a banger coming. I'm coming out the game and 20, listen, I promise you and i don't like to make promises because promises like pie crust and thin and easily broke broken my the first month i'm committed to giving y'all nothing but heat now listen to me now listen also what i him, if I tell you a dunk smoke cigarettes, check his wing. He got a pack up under there.

Yeah. Now, I'm telling you. Oh, yeah. Next Wednesday. I'm coming. I'm coming. I got somebody that y'all want to hear. And he went.

Listen, I had to wrap it, Ocho. I had to wrap him. We went about two and a half hours. I wrapped it. I wrapped it. He started. He started. He went 30 minutes before I could even ask him a question.

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