Club Shay Shay - NightCap - Unc & Ocho react to Patriots-Broncos, Dolphins beat Cowboys, Flacco wins 3rd straight

Episode Date: December 25, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the New England Patriots taking on the Denver Broncos, the Miami Dolphins taking down the Dallas Cowboys, Joe Flacco's elite comeback story and much more! 00:00 - Introduction06:25 - Patriots beat Proncos13:00 - Dolphins beat Cowboys36:00 - Joe Flacco is better than Deshaun Watson42:00 - Shohei Ohtani gifts Porsche53:00 - Ocho's wack Christmas tree01:04;00 - The unexpected pain of hip surgery01:20:00 - Greatness has no balance01:30:00 - More Nightcap questions! #Herd #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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three months three months a little over three months three months 536 000 yep like think about that that's amazing yeah we actually started the channel uh october the 8th we've been going but we didn't have a channel so we officially started the channel october the 8th so november december so we're about we're a little left in three months actually we're about we're about another we're about another two weeks away from three months that's crazy man you know how hard it is i obviously i'm just learning about youtube and and all this stuff and people always talk to me about how difficult it is to build a following you know and for us to be able to build a following this fast at the at the rate we going man ain't no telling you ain't no telling where

we gonna be at in another three months oh joe the thing is here's the thing the podcast market is really saturated because everybody's saying well hey he's doing it i can do it she's doing it i can do it and so what you have to do now yeah it's easy to start a podcast you get your camera you say i want a youtube channel and a microphone hey you can shoot in your space go here i am in my office you're in your office and you go but here's the here's the trick now you're never going to get a chance to get them again. So when you launch for the very first time and you get one or you get five or you get 10 and they watch you, will they come back? If they like what you have to say, if they like, if you're entertaining, if you're

informative, if you're educational, they'll come back. Right. If you're not, they'll come back. Right. If you're not, they're gone. And so when you hear the saying, you never get a second chance to make a first impression. Right. Yeah. Remember, Ocho, when we first started this thing, we got like 2000 people in the live chat. Yeah.

Yeah. We went away from the live chat for a minute, started just doing BOD. Right. We come back. I said, no let's a I think we can do it I think because people need to hear this what we're saying because yeah you can hear it on the video but to hear it live the very last time there's something about being at a comedy show or two you're actually

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so we keep trying to give you great information entertaining you guys so we really want to thank you. The Pats beat the Broncos. Ryland kicks a game-winning field goal for the Pats. The Broncos tied up late, but they give the ball back to the Patriots, and the Patriots do a great job of getting in field goal range. It disappeared.

Getting in field goal range and kicking the, I think it was a 56-yard field goal. And it was right down the middle. And considering how bad he had struggled early, he missed the field goal right. He hit a P.A.T. Makes the extra point. Up right. So that was a big win for the Patriots. It was really, really deflating for the Broncos.

They didn't play well with the exception of maybe a few series for the Patriots. It was really, really deflating for the Broncos. They didn't play well with the exception of maybe a few series in the game, but the Broncos didn't play well. The first snap of the game, they sacked the quarterback, they get a fumble like on the five-yard line, and they end up turning the ball over on downs at the two-yard line. You've got to get something out of that.

You would like to get points out of that drive. I mean, excuse me, a touchdown out of that drive, but you didn't get anything. touchdown out of that drive. Yeah, drive, yeah. But you didn't get anything. And the worst case scenario, you get three. Give the Patriots credit, the defense bend, but I mean, they did a great job of holding them out of the end zone. And then the Broncos got really sloppy in there,

like once they got a 7-3 lead, but they got really sloppy. You know, they turned the ball over a couple of times, fumbled on the kick return and gave up a touchdown without the offense, even getting on the field, which is very deflating, but give them credit. They fought,

got the way back into the ball game. And I thought they had an opportunity to, to, to possibly win the game because they forced the Patriots to go three and out. And so now they get the ball with two minutes to go. And I'm like, okay,

but Oh Joee you know this in a situation like that you really need something good to happen on first down because that's the down that really okay yeah we got this yeah we got a rhythm give you a little rhythm yep give you a little rhythm give you a little confidence you got it the first down you get 13 14 15 yards you get a big play now you cook it now everything but now you you throw the throw a screen you catch him in a blitz but it's a running back he peels off tackle p ryan for 13 for a three yard loss now second and 13 yeah now you're now you're behind the eight ball but i don't know why they were in such a rush because you do realize

now if you don't get this first down you're gonna put the ball back with them to it with a minute right and they got a timeout so i didn't understand the rush of why the broncos were in such a hurry once they were second and 13 that's just me what what was kind of some of your takeaway from the game i think my takeaway i mean there were there were the broncos played good in spurts there was there was a series that looked really good where sean payton had a great game plan for russell to allow him to i like to i like to call it cook they allowed him to cook they got him outside the pocket obviously he was sacked five times but they got him outside the pocket allowed him to use his

legs a little bit to make a few completions and drive down the field i think that might have been some time in the third quarter when they looked the best as an offense. Other than that, they had sputtered the entire game. There was really no consistency offensively, you know, and they really couldn't get a rhythm or that confidence you spoke of with a minute or two minutes left on the clock when they were trying to rush. I'm not sure why they were rushing and want to get the ball back to the Patriots just in that scenario. with Cortland Sutton going down that, that really hurt. I think that really hurt them offensively,

especially in 50, 50, 50 ball situations where I'm sure Russ would have wanted to use him in that situation. Uh, a little nephew, little Brandon, he came,

he came, he got a nice little touchdown at the end, but obviously get the two point conversion to tie the game up. After that, I think the Broncos played down to the competition. I think the Patriots' defense doesn't get enough credit. Yeah, they solid. They don't get enough credit, but they deserve because of the losing record.

And I'm not sure what Bailey Zappi ate for breakfast this morning, but the past few weeks that he started, the offense itself has looked completely different. It's looked completely different, and I'm not sure if they're going to continue with mac jones as as of next year bailey zappy seems to be the answer you know so far and he did a great job he didn't turn the ball over the thing that was killing mac jones okay even if you don't pick up first down you can't turn it over he's throwing interceptions he's fumbling the ball so now that is that's exacerbating a situation it's frustrating the offense. It's frustrating the defense because we're having to defend extra possessions

that you're costing us. The one thing that you can say about Bailey Zappi, he hasn't turned the ball over. He's a little bit more athletic, I think, than Mack Jones because he's able to get out of harm's way and make some plays down the field. But I agree with you. I mean, at one point in time in the second half late like like maybe the start of the fourth quarter the broncos were minus

seven yards in the second half and i'm like bro how do you get minus seven yards i mean and they had like two or three possessions and they had you know they had sack russ and russ and fumble the football and so they didn't get any extra opportunity to pick up any yards but you know what maybe this is the best thing. Because you know what, Ocho? Sometimes you can make the playoff and it gives you a false sense that we're close. The Broncos aren't close. They're not.

And all the playoffs would have done would have fooled them. It would have fooled our fans and Bronco country. And it would have fooled a lot of the players. See, I told you we made the playoff. Bro, y'all not close. Yeah. You don't have enough. You don't have enough playmakers.

You don't have enough playmakers uh you don't have enough playmakers on the defensive side i was kind of disappointed in pat sartan today because on third down now if they go to the other side i can live with that but ain't no way in hell if i'm that dog you throw the third down on me they go you go oh joe you're challenging me right right right can you imagine somebody throwing at time reavers rod uh uh charles wilson rod wilson and neil williams you need a third down play and the best corner on your team one of the best in the nfl i want you i'm gonna challenge you that don't sound right like you tell me oh that don't sound right to me right right right right right hey that's uh i don't

know i don't know i i wouldn't when i look it, I look at the landscape and the dynamic of that offense and defense. The defense is really good. I think they're really good. They played well as opposed to how they look when they play the Dolphins and the Dolphins put up 70 on them. After that game, they have been decent. They have been decent to that point. And I don't know what I don't know what happened tonight. I'm not sure what's wrong with the Broncos in general.

I was very excited when Russell Wilson and that maturation between him and Sean Payton started to work and they started to look efficient offensively and Russell looked somewhat of himself and he looked somewhat of himself as what we're used to seeing when he was with Seattle instead of a shell of himself.

He lost a little weight. He became a little bit more mobile using his legs. They were getting him out of the pocket. He making plays with his with his arm with his legs and it's a game like today that you have to come out and win and make a statement if you want to feel like you deserve to make the playoffs but again like you said if they were to make it i'm not sure what the what the um standings are for them now but you would just be fooling yourself yeah just be fooling yourself. You'd just be fooling yourself. With a win today, they had a 42% chance of making it. With a loss, there's a 5%

chance of making it. So the likelihood of them making the playoffs with two games to go isn't very good. They need a lot of bad things to happen to someone else, but you need a lot of good things to happen to you. But here's the thing. Now you're hoping because you didn't take care of your business.

Your own business. If you take care of your business, don't worry about what's up. Man, if they lose this and this team ties and an eagle land on the flagpole at 12 o'clock, we can make the playoffs. Nah, bro. If you take care of your business, you don't have to look and see what someone else is doing.

You don't have to worry about what they're cooking because your meal is satisfactory. But it is what it is. I think they need a lot of things that the offensive line isn't nearly good enough they don't they didn't run the ball particularly well last night i'm looking at this dance of ocho and the the the rush the rush yards what they have that's 61 81 83 yards on 17 21 22 23 carries that 23 carries. That's not enough. Not enough to get it done. Not enough to get it done. No.

Yeah. So give the Patriots credit. Go on the road. Win a hard-fought ball game. Found a way to win. Could have gotten, you know, you have a 23-7 lead. All of a sudden, it's 23-23 late in the ball game. You have every reason to like, man, we had this game.

We let it slip away. But they said, nope, it ain't slip away. We still got an excellent chance to win this ballgame. And they dug down and they won the ballgame. So congratulations to them. And they win and the Broncos taste defeat. Tombo said, you can't tell me Sean ain't sabotaging Denver. On the last drive you

called the exact same type of play that had you down 16 to begin with well Ocho and I said it earlier I wasn't pleased with the play call and I know a lot a lot of teams like to start with the screen but a lot of defenses know you like to start with the screen so you like to start with the screen they know you like to start with the screen. They know you like to start with the screen. So you play the screen. Exactly, exactly. So the Patriots found a way to win, so give those guys credit. So game we go into next.

The Miami Dolphins. Hey! Beat the Dallas Cowboys 22-20. Jason Sanders hit a 29- yard field goal as time expired to give Miami is level win of the season. He hit five field goals on today, set a Dolphins record three of at least 50 yards. And they win a tour was 200 had passed for 293 yards, 2437, 293, a touchdown. Dak Prescott was 20 of 32, 253, and two touchdowns.

CeeDee Lamb, six catches for a buck 15. Tyreek had nine for 99 after sitting out last week. What was your takeaway? What was your big takeaway? Hey, this might have been the best game of the day. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. They went back and forth.

Tool was good. Dak was good. They didn't turn the ball over. One thing that I don't like that the Cowboys did, goddamn CeeDee Lamb been cooking. Obviously, I'm a Dolphins fan, but CeeDee Lamb has been cooking week in and week out. He comes out, has a phenomenal game at the beginning. Phenomenal quarters.

Excuse me. He had four catches touching the ball. They moving the ball phenomenal game at the beginning. Phenomenal quarters. Excuse me. He had four catches touching the ball. They moving the ball up and down the field. That is the Cowboys. Then all of a sudden, CeeDee Lamb disappears. He disappears out the game plan and opportunities don't even exist until what? Maybe the late, was it maybe middle of the third? Right.

Early in the fourth? I mean, what are we doing are we even serious about competing and wanting and wanting to win the game when your best playmaker is not a part of the game plan why are you even allowing the the dolphin defense excuse me to dictate where the ball goes yeah move him around getting the ball you don't have to because at this point in time, they're not having Jalen Ramsey travel with him. So now I'm working on because if you look, if you say Jalen Ramsey and Xavier Howard are one,

two, those are your two best corners. So now I'm working on three and four. Well, I got to move. Well, you got to move me. Let me work with you guys in the slot because Ramsey's not coming in the slot.

Howard really doesn't play the slot. So I'm cool you ain't gotta move me just what left or right I got two guys in me that I know that are uh that I'm superior to feed me the ball so yeah although I agree with you he had 10 targets he should have had 17 targets easily easily especially this with they the the Cowboys are in a gauntlet they're in a gauntlet of games that they have to win or they should win because the ramifications of these games are important for them making the playoffs and the team that they're playing are going to be the type of team

that you're playing in the playoffs so why not throw the kitchen sink out there and get the confidence in on your on your team especially offensive the confidence for that cd lamb disappears halfway halfway in the game after going crazy the first half. Then he doesn't touch the ball until late in the third or maybe early in the fourth. It makes no sense, but then you're serious about winning

and being in the playoffs. Dolphins defense played really good, though. Ocho, the thing, if you're the Dolphins defense, what are you playing? The pass. The Cowboys don't even really try to run the football i don't know if they can't run it or they don't make a commitment to run it because all i know is mike mccarthy said at the end of the at the end of last year when they made the switch and moved on from kellen moore he wanted more of a balanced offense he told jerry jones a lot he wanted to get kellen moore out of

there because he wanted to call the plays because this offense looks a lot like it did last year with no running game. And they might have won 100-yard rush game this year. And maybe that was, if I'm not mistaken, that was the first game of the season against the Giants. But they have no commitment. Now, granted, this offensive line is getting up on age. Zach Martin is not the same Zach Martin. Tyron Smith has missed another game. He's missed on average since 2015, I think, about three games a season.

Since 2020, he's missed the average of four games a season. He's not the same. You can't – because remember now, when Zeke first got in, they moved people to the A. Oh, yeah. That thing was like molding. They partied. They getting you up out of the club.

Yeah. Quick. Yeah. They were bouncers. They had five bouncers, and they were throwing people up out. You're right. They were throwing people – molded out the club. You got to get up out the club quick yeah they were bouncers they had five bouncers and they were throwing people about you right oh they were throwing people mofos out the club you gotta get up out of here it's time to go and and i just don't know i mean tony paul at 12 for 35 dak had five for 25 uh but he had a 22 yard run i like that today because today seemed like he was very active he wasn't he was he was

he wasn't hesitant oh man they got his thing covered i'm out the gate yeah i'm out of there yeah i'm very very decisive very decisive in his decision making he was but uh they they don't i mean the thing is if i'm the guy if i play the cowboys i'm playing for the pads because they're not gonna make a commitment to run especially if they run the ball the first couple times and you stop them oh they good day hey all right dac it's on you now it's on you uh but like you said give the dolphins create a credit tyreek 14 targets nine catches 99 yards he dropped one hey that would have been what 97 96 because you see what but, here's the thing, Ocho. What do you got to do, Ocho? Once he got past Bland, he got to start getting back. He stayed in that

line. Now you got to get back. Why? Because, just think about it. If you had released outside, where would you have been? I don't care what your release is. You know what, Ocho? You could go in motion and go out the other side. As long as my back foot hit that fifth step and you where you're supposed to be at 42 and 4, I'm cool with it.

He needed to get back wide, and because he didn't, you see how he tried to reach over here and catch it? Where if he'd have got back wide, he'd have hit it right here. It would have fell right in the bread basket. Yeah. Right in the bread basket. And he'd have pieced him out. And so now you get 97.

Now, Ochoo you know what happened you get that first catch and it's a big one a big one oh ocho i'm about to give me a two i'm about to give me a two piece i'm about to give me a 200 today matter of fact that would have today would have been a 200 yard day 200 200 and some change easy but he had another opportunity remember late in the fourth quarter he ran he ran a deep end cut and threw it through it behind him because he was about to come out the back side on that one yeah yeah the safety had taken a horrible angle he was about to come out the back side that's why he started hopping started jumping because he's like damn i missed this you already know and you know you know the funny thing about it is he's gonna have another week to be able to do it because they got

the ravens next week yeah and the ravens ain't changing them nothing based on the way they play the game they feel they have two good corners and mart. And the Ravens ain't changing them nothing based on the way they play the game. They feel they have two good corners in Marlon Humphrey. I can't remember number 20. I can't remember number 20 on his last name. But they going to be in his face. They going to be in his face. But here's the thing. I think it's too late to get two bans.

He needs about 200 yards each game. Because remember, Ocho, he got hurt. Remember he got hurt? The ankle, yeah. And then he missed the game. So now... each game because remember Ocho he got hurt remember he got hurt the ankle yeah and then he missed the game yeah so now he missed about six quarters worth of production yes yes okay okay so now

where he's at 1600 he'd have been at 1800 right now with two games to play he's at 1800 have a nice game now you're trying to go in this man I'm trying to get a buck 50 against the raven right so that for all i need is a 50 yards against the last game of the season yeah and i guess you're right right and i'm and i'm at two man uh but this was a much

this was a a very needed win for the dolphins ocho because and you know people say the narrative but there's no narrative you guys have not beat a team with a winning record in a calendar year. So it's not a narrative. It's facts. It's facts. I don't know what y'all want me to say. And the Cowboys, again, 20 points. Where they score 40 points

at home, they got less than what they normally get on the road. They normally get about 22, 21.7. 22 points. They got 20 today. The defense, I mean, and the defense didn't play bad. I'm getting ready to say that.

Normally, I say that the key for the Dolphins winning this game would be running the ball the same way the Cardinals did, the same way the Bills were able to do, but they did okay against the run. They did okay against the run. But here's the thing. I thought the Dolphins tried to attack them wrong.

See, they're trying to get the edges. You got to go downhill against them. You have to because they're too fast. They're too fast when you're trying to get the edge. Look at James Cook. Look how James Cook attacked them. Look how Christian McCaffrey attacked him. Look at James Conner. That's what you got to go.

Because they're all shooting upfield. So it's going to be hard for you to get to edges. And you see they strung things out a lot. Get downhill. But again, the defense ain't forced turnovers. You see how different this defense looks? How different this team looks when they don't get turnovers? When you can't put that offense on a short field,

when you can't get picked fixes and scooping scores. You see how this team look? I mean, y'all might not like my analysis. Oh, you a cowboy hater. But the facts speak for themselves. I ain't told one lie. I told him last week. I said it like that.

I did like my ex. I like him. I just don't trust him. I like the cowboy. I just don't trust him, Mo him. I just don't trust him. I like the cowboy. I just don't trust him, Ocho. I just don't trust him. I just don't trust him. I don't know what you want me to do.

I don't know what they want me to do with that, Ocho. But that's a good one right there. But Miami got another garlic. Think about it. They got the Ravens. they got the Ravens coming up and then they got closed out the season at home with the Bills really needs it because Buffalo's not at the

woodwork out of the woods yet because they need these last two games to get themselves into the playoffs because I don't believe they might can catch I don't know if they can catch the Dolphins the Dolphins probably need to win one of these last two games because the Dolphins probably need to win one of these last two games because the Dolphins are trying to like, hold on

maybe if the Ravens, hey if Sam Fran take care of the Ravens tomorrow we'd never next week we in the catbird seat, we the number one seat matter of fact, you right, because obviously the Dolphins are already in the playoff, they 11-4 they second in the AFC right now, so if the Ravens

do lose, who the Ravenven got sam fran tomorrow night oh boy that's gonna be a good one yeah god damn and i don't want to i don't want to underestimate the raven defense because they know telling what raven defense come to play right but it all is based on matchups. Matchups. How do they match up well against IU and goddamn Debo and Christian McCaffrey? Ain't no telling what's going to happen. Yeah, but the Ravens and that defense better be on its best behavior because we know what they do at home. They annihilate people. It ain't no close ball games.

It ain't no walk-off field goals. They beat people by 21. They beat people by 17. Right, right, right. We saw them go on the the road and we saw the job they did against the eagles we saw what they did what we thought was a good cowboy yeah cowboy team right we saw what they did to seattle twice we saw what they what they did to the rams now maybe this is a different rams team that's going to come that's going to come at the end of the season. But we saw them, they take teams apart. And especially when they got their entire arsenal,

when Iuke and Debo and Kittle and Trent Williams and C-Mac, when they're playing, and Jennings, they got tremendous guys that run up to the catch. Offensive line is very good. They can run block. They can pass block. Brock Purdy has been sensational. I believe he's still

the MVP right now. It'll be interesting to see how the game... And the defense is playing well too. Yes, yes, yes. Now, they're not suffocating. But, Tredavious Ward. Boy, he the real deal. Who do you match him up on?

Do you put him on, say, Flowers? Do you send him with on you put him on Zay Flowers do you send him with Odell does he travel you send him with Odell because Zay Flowers is a little to me it'd be a mismatch even though Zay is good but Zay is a bigger corner he's a bigger corner so you need to put him on Odell

you have to have someone small Ward yeah you say Zay is a small receiver yeah i don't want yeah i don't i don't want i don't want yeah that's a mismatch that's a mismatch yeah so uh it's gonna be very interesting to see how this game shapes out uh the cowboys they lose on the road again the questions are still going to be there i'm gonna going to have the same, I'm going to put the same questions on the test until you

answer the test correctly. That's what I'm going to do, Ocho. I'm going to give you the same questions. Don't ask me, people want us to lose. No, no, no, no. You don't get to reap the benefits of being on America's team. And then when you don't perform and we ask why you talk about,

we want you to lose or we root against you. No, no, no. You reaping the benefits of being on America's team. You own. That's why you think you get all these chunky suits. Why you think you get all these commercials?

Why are you getting all these seats? These are the mattresses commercial, right? You think you get that because why? Because there are other quarterbacks that's playing better than that. There are other defensive players playing better than Micah. You get that for one reason. Well, it's not the only reason,

but it's a large part of the reason because you're on the Cowboys. So, you want all that, right? Okay. So, when we come and we ask questions, what's going on?'t be mad don't be bad yeah do like the dolphins there was a narrative out there they can't be good team they can't be team with a winning record but it came up and they showed up ta-da exhibit a you know you're

in the courtroom your exhibit a okay dollars okay now beating, I don't know who they got. They got the Giants again. I think they got the Giants again. Who else? They got the Lions. Lions. Oh, that's going to be a good game. Oh, that's going to be a good game.

They got the Lions and they got the Commanders. J Smooth 41. Shea Ocho, please tell me why Dallas has no run game. O-line can't stop a part. Warner team. Rowntree is questionable besides CD. People will blame Dak. No, hold on. Ocho, please tell me why Dallas has no run game. O-line can't stop a part. Warner team, Rowntree is questionable besides CD. People will blame Dak. Now, hold on.

Ocho, I said this many years ago when they got rid of Amari. And I understood why. Because they wanted CD Lamb to be the number one receiver. And Amari said, I ain't going nowhere. Look at Brandon Cook. And I think he's a solid receiver. He's had a thousand yards in new england uh uh new orleans he's been yeah yeah sensational but he ain't amari and michael

gallop has not been the same since that knee injury don't i understand he'll make a play here there but he's not the same receiver ochcho I like Tolbert he made a big time catch over Xavier Howard he's young he needs to put more of these more of these catches and games together but just imagine if you got CD and you got Amari now I don't know if anybody knows this Amari has the second most 200 yard receiving games in NFL Yeah. He and T.O. are the only two men to have three 200-yard games, one on three different teams. Now, you tell me you have C.D. doing what he doing, and you have Amari.

How would this offense look? It'd look crazy. It'd be crazy. But I think, obviously, it was a money situation, right? They didn't want to pay whatever it might have been. It wasn't the money because Jerry got the money. They didn't think Amari was playing up to the $20 million price tag. Well, they purposely weren't giving him the opportunity to make sure he played up to the $20 million.

Don't get me started on that. Because here's the thing. That's a whole other conversation. They felt they overpaid to begin with. They felt that the only reason they gave him $20 million was to keep him away from Washington because he was a free agent. They didn't franchise him. He was a free agent. Washington put the money out on the table. So he's like, if I'm going to get 20 million, I might as well get 20 million,'re in free agency and you want somebody, you got to overpay. Because if the money's the same,

why would I leave you and have to learn an entirely different system, get familiar with a whole different quarterback, learn a whole new city. If I'm married, I got a girlfriend, now we got to learn a whole city over. If the money's the same, I'm going to stay. Stay, right.

You're going to have to make me, you're going to have to do something, pay me more than what i'm worth right now it's a situation like the uh raiders now green bay did say okay we'll match but he's like if y'all match 137 million no state taxes that's about eight percent over the life of the contract I'm going to save me probably about 10 to 11 million dollars 10 to 11 million dollars that'll go a long way because I ain't going to be playing football forever

so that's how you have to look at it so the Cowboys felt well we really didn't want to play Amari 20 million to begin with we just didn't want him to go to a division that's the last thing you want Ochoa to go to a division rival and I got to deal with you twice a year now and now he gonna be feeling some type of way that's why teams are very very cautious about trading within the division division right i mean more times than not they try to trade you completely out of the conference hey you're

an afc now you go to the nfc if you're in the nfc you go to the afc and the funny thing about it is if you feel that much about that certain individual going into division and you don't value them, if you don't value them, it shouldn't matter where they go because you don't want them anyway. You don't want them in the fact that you don't want them in the division. That tells you all

it is. Stop saying that. It's like a young lady you're dating. I don't care where you go, but don't you date my homeboy. Don't you date somebody from my school. Don't you date nobody from my school. Come on, Ocho. I like where you went with that.

I like where you went with that. That's a good one. I don't care, but I do care. I care that you stay away from him. Right. That's a good analogy. I like that one. That's a good one.

Hey, that's nasty work, too. Yeah, yeah, man. Ooh, Ocho. Ooh oh oh oh oh i know you don't know this oh so we got 26 000 on krimmer eve hey merry christmas oh it's oh hey um it's gonna be midnight yeah merry christmas wait hold on not yet we gotta wait till it hit midnight it's 11 59 yeah you know 11 hit midnight It's 1159 Yeah So you know 1159 mean it's Christmas You know You know Santa got

He got the radio Up to his head too He listening They doing that thing Already He said I like this I like this

It's midnight Merry Christmas y'all I love you all 26,000 of you From my family to yours Merry Christmas Happy holidays And all that good stuff.

And you can open up one gift. Y'all can open up one gift. That's it. Man, you're teasing somebody. One gift. I'm trying to get up everything. Nah, nah. You got to wait.

You got to wait till everybody else get up. You know, once midnight hit, my grandma used to let me open up one gift. All right, boy, come on. Get up now. Open up one gift

and the rest of them you wait till the morning. Barney and Mary Porter wasn't playing that. You open up a gift by 7 right, boy, come on. Get up, man. Open up one gift, and the rest of them, you wait till the morning. Barney and Mary Porter wasn't playing that. You open up a gift by 7.30, 8 o'clock. You couldn't get up early. In the morning? What? Oh, boy.

Wake up. You open a gift when they wake up. Yeah. Hey, you know, I'm restless. I'm kicking my feet. Right, right. Boy, be still, my grandma. Boy, be still.

You know, I try to do everything to get way ready up hey you know what i love i know we're gonna get back to the football topic but well you know what i love about christmas day is the presents you know it's all good today is uh obviously french fry you know my one year old she gets to experience her first christmas where she actually knows what's going on. So she's got presence. She sees the light. She's excited. She can talk a little bit now. So I can't wait to see her face in the morning. But in Miami, I'm not sure how you guys celebrate. A lot of people get four-wheelers, Yamaha Banshees, and we love the ride in the streets. And I think I might do that today. I think I might do that today. Find somebody, a friend of mine, and get a dirt bike

and just ride in the streets. We'd be like 50, 60 deep. Nope. That ain't what we're doing. I ain't going to say that's not what they do. That's not what I do. My grandfather once told me when me and my brother

asked him for a motorcycle, he said, boy, they call it asphalt. It's your ass and it's your fault. No, sir. That's what he said. So that's out of the question, don't you? We don't fool with that.

You was in the country. I know you rode four wheelers and dirt bikes. No. No, no, no, no. What you call them? My grandma was going to play. My grandmother. And we couldn't even.

I wouldn't even risk it. I wouldn't even risk getting on one away from home. Because if I got hurt. Right. They're going to hurt me. Word. As because if I got hurt, they're going to hurt me as soon as I get well, they're going to hurt me again. So, God, leave that alone. You know what, baby? I saw that boy on one of them old sickles.

I saw, yeah. Yeah. That baby boy, I don't know which one it was, but I think it's that baby boy. Oh, no. Come on, man. No, hell no. I love that, man. Oh but i think of that baby boy oh no come on man no hell no i love that man you you oh just the smell of that gasoline it they don't smell like regular gas you know you got to mix it man that smell and ain't nothing like you know what else i'm like oh joe

we play ball and i used to play on the old asphalt and you look down at that thing and you don't see nothing but that white meat and here i look down at that thing and you don't see nothing but that white meat. And here I am black as I am, but I don't see nothing but white meat. So imagine you up there. Go ahead. Hold on. Speaking of old school asphalt, when you grew up, y'all played in the middle of the street? Yeah. And when the cars come, you yell freeze and wherever you're at, everybody got to stay

right where you're at until the car go by? Yeah. Man, what about throw up tackle? Y'all play throw up tackle? We use the short. Tackle the man with the ball. Yeah. We call it tackle the man with the ball.

Yeah. Okay, we call it throw up tackle right here. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, okay. What do you think you learned? Hey, they bust you up, Ocho. You better get good. Oh, yeah.

You got to. Oh, that's some good memories, man. Let's see. Here's the game I want to get to. Where is it at? Flacco? Oh, yeah. How you know I was going there?

Ocho, let's be real. And that's what we do. We real with each other. Yeah. At no point in time, since his return, last year, the little five, six games that he played, and this year, has Deshaun Watson looked as good as Joe Flacco looked in the last three games? Tell me I'm lying, Ocho. No, you're not.

You're not lying. But my question to you is, is as good as Deshaun is, as good as he was and got the money based on what he did in Houston, he has a good supporting cast, a good supporting cast there offensively. Can you explain to me why he doesn't look the way Joe Flacco has looked in just four games? I don't know. I'm asking you. You have a better eye than I do.

You have a better eye than I do. I'm just looking at it from surface level, from watching from TV. How did Joe Flacco come in and in four weeks look like that? Off his couch? You know, if you know what if you if you notice what they're doing it's the same scheme they do a lot of play action and Joe

got a big time arm you remember the throw that he made last week on the over route to Amari yeah I called Ari yeah and a whole lot of guys gonna fit that ball in there like that right you see the big first ball that he threw to 75 yarder mm-hmm Joe

Flacco I mean look Joe you question his arm did you see the big first ball that he threw to 75 yarder. Joe Flacco. I mean, look, Joe, you ain't never questioned his arm. Did you see the ball placement though? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

And now I'm sure people, fans in Cleveland, like, okay, we see what this offense can be. Right. With Amari and then Joku. And they run the ball. Now, they didn't run the ball great. I mean, 47, 58, 59, minus 5, 54 yards. 54 yards on 20, 27, 29, 30.

They didn't run the ball great. They didn't run the ball great. But Joe Flacco was 27 to 42, 366, three touchdowns, two interceptions. Amari Cooper had 15 targets, 11 catches, 265, which is a team record. Hey,

Ocho, if I see it, you don't think the front office in Cleveland see it? You don't think the fans in Cleveland are asking their family members at the bars and at the game, why we didn't look like that when a guy is getting 250,

a quarter of a bill fully guaranteed? Why we haven't looked like that? Now, and remember I said, Ocho, at some point in time, we're going to have to start making excuses. We can't keep saying, well, you know, he missed a year and this and that. Now, and I told you, and remember I said, Ocho, at some point in time, we're going to have to start making excuses. We can't keep saying, well, you know, he missed a year and this and that. Because Joe Flacco got off his couch.

Yeah. Off his couch, he's driving his kids. I think Flacco got like five or six kids. He's driving, he's in carpool line. In the line. Yeah. Because remember, he had a couple of decent games last year from the Jets. Wasn't he on the Jets?

I think he was on the Jets. But the thing you never questioned about Joe was his arm talent. Yeah, he's always had a big arm. Always had a big arm. And if he gets to the playoff, playoff Joe. Playoff Joe the real deal, man. And the funny thing about it is the Browns are a team. What they're doing right now and the confidence that they've built in joe and the way they going offensively man don't you don't

want to see the browns yeah you don't want to see the browns offensively and the damn defense ain't bad they ain't bad yeah oh no then they're watering them boys be playing some ball now the game probably shouldn't have been as close i mean it was 36 for uh 36 22 it shouldn't have been that close joe doesn't turn the ball over because you look at davis you look at davis mills and case keenum combined they had 201 passing yards on 26 of 49 attempts. So they slightly, they slightly over 200 yards or 40 or damn near 50 pass them attempt. Right.

So, but Joe was throwing it today and you mentioned they had an interception. They had two interceptions. They sacked the quarter. They got up to the quarterback. They had three sacks. Yeah. I had two,

they had two interceptions, twoceptions three sacks uh they look good they they i didn't think you and i had to discuss i was like if we were talking about ojo when we found out that deshaun was gonna miss the rest of the season they i like man they can't go nowhere i mean come on now with with the quarterback they got come come on, OJ. I didn't see Joe Flacco. I didn't see Joe Flacco. He wasn't on my radar. I got a question for you. Yes. And I want you to play GM. Okay.

So with Joe Flacco playing the way you played, what do you do coming next year? You know the business much better than I do because I don't like the mean. I don't like the business side of it. I don't like the politics. But don't like the business side of it. I don't like the politics. But you would be able to answer this. I think you're almost forced to have to keep him.

I mean, you still owe him $185, $190 million. Who are you going to get to take that? You going to pay somebody $190 million to go away? I'm just curious. You know, you got to be. With Joe playing the way he's playing that, this ain't no just, you see what Joe has done the past four weeks?

Yes, I have. Because here's the thing, Ocho. It's kind of like when they say it's cheaper to keep her. But I've seen people, I've seen men that are billionaires that say, I'd rather pay you leave than keep my money in state. So,

this is the question. Can you trade him? Who's going to eat that contract? And, and, and, and, and,

and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

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and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and. You don't think nobody eat that? No? Ocho, plus here's the thing. You got to sell, this is what you got to sell. Not only do you got to sell it to another team, you got to sell it to their fan base. Mm. Yeah, okay. The hardest thing was to convince, and this is totally different,

was Andy was all in. Everybody wanted Mike. how do you sell that to the fan base right i mean it's only one way to fix it obviously if they if he's gonna have to he's gonna have to he's gonna have to build his he's gonna have to be he's gonna have to he's gonna have to be immediately next year he's gonna have to have to be the last Deshaun Watson that we saw in Houston. That we're used to when he was in Houston. He got to. He got to be.

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Ohtani signed with the Dodgers $700 million contract. He wears number 17. Those to the Dodgers, Joe Kelly, who's a starting pitcher, he has number 17. He wants it. He gives it to Shohei.

Shohei buys his wife a Porsche. Wait, he didn't charge him? A Porsche. He brought his wife a Porsche. No, but I'm saying, normally when you go to other teams and you have a certain jersey number,

you have to pay the person that has it. You got to pay him. Nope. He just like, hold up, check this out. She offered it. She said, if you come to the Dodgers, you can have my husband's jersey number,

which was seven. Wait. So because the husband, because he gave the jersey up as a sign of respect and gratitude, he buys him a Porsche. Her. Her. She got the Porsche. She said, even if you come, you can have my husband a number,

and we'll change our baby's name, Kai, to Show Kai. Well, now she got to change the baby name. So she got a Porsche. She got to change the baby name. Well, shoot, that's Ohtani wife now. It all led to Shohei thanking them for the special gift on saturday ashley kelly opened her front door to a special delivery from shohei otani a brand new porsche that's live that's live like you know what that feel like to be able to do that obviously we can we can buy a

car we can get something nice for us do you know the kind of money you got to be making to say you know what because of this nice gesture and you allow me to wear the jersey number that i adore i'ma buy you i'ma buy you i'ma buy you i'm not gonna buy you a porsche i'ma buy your wife a porsche 700 million is that enough money i'ma be oh joe because remember i told you when i went to baltimore i was number 84 in denver obviously Baltimore, I was number 84 in Denver. Obviously, I wanted to wear number 84 in Baltimore. Jermaine Lewis had the number. The receiver. Yes.

I offered him and his wife. He and her Rolexes. At the time, a presidential Rolex was probably, a man's was probably about $21,000, $22,000. A woman's Rolex was probably about $ 22,000 female, a woman, sorry, a woman's Rolex was about, probably about 14. So I was going to be, you know, $35,000, $40,000 at the tax. He's like, no. So, but I didn't want, I didn't want 88.

I didn't want my odd number. So I was like, Frank Wainwright, Frank Wainwright had 82. So I got his number. He was with, he was with me in Denver before he ended up going to Baltimore so I knew him somewhat you know we used to joke with him I called him Freaky Frank so I called him I was like Freaky Frank man I need 82

he's like call me Sharpie he's like sure Sharpie you can have it I said nah Freaky Frank I won't feel right but you give me give me the number without properly compensating you I was like well you know what know what? What's your hobby? He said, Sharpie, I like to fish. Say no more.

I bought him a bass boat. The low one? No, a bass boat. Yeah, like the one you see when you fish a tournament? Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Mike Iaconelli and all those? They're not expensive, are they? I must have been wrong.

I think it was about $ 14 000 but you got okay that's worth it though that was in 2000 yeah that's worth it though that's worth it what's a bad how much a bad smoke calls that ass yeah that's definitely worth it though especially for your number it's something about having your own it's something even though it wasn't my jersey number it wasn't my number but it was the number that i wanted right so he was willing he was willing to give me that oh and kevin van dam i will say kevin van dam is probably the greatest you know i grew up watching bill dance and roland martin and ernest hensley all those guys fishing and then i started watching you know mike iconelli and and and van dam you know kevin van dam so i know a little bit about, you know, fishing.

Yeah. I don't like that. I ain't got the patience for fishing. Hey, so guess what? Guess what a bass boat costs now? About twenty eight. Twenty eight thousand. Fifty to one hundred thousand.

What? Yeah. Well, that's the high end. That's like the best of the best. I mean, I bought I bought him a bass boat. You know, you got to have you got to have a aerated well that water so you put the fish in. So the fish stay alive. Stay alive, right.

Yeah, you have a big motor, a Johnson or an Evinrude. Then you have to have a trolling motor. See, man, the people going to think I'm from the country. I'm sorry, Ocho. I'm sorry. I'm just going to break it down for you, Ocho. I'm from Miami. A lot of people here fish because there's water everywhere.

There's lakes everywhere. Yeah. But I ain't got the patience for that I'm not sitting there waiting on you to take a bite I'm not sitting there waiting on the bite I got another question

though I'm curious Jermaine Lewis you offered his wife I offered him and his wife his and hers Rolexes both Rolexes and he said no well what did he want

did he say no I don't think I don't think I think he had said I had made a name for myself in this jersey and I want say a number? I don't think he had said I had made a name for myself in this jersey and I want to keep it. Which I didn't have a problem with.

I go to the man. At the time, I'm a free agent. I was one of the top five free agents that was available. Nah, I ain't going to do that. I ain't going to pull a rank. Bro, this is what I got to give you about you and your wife here's her rolexes what you think nah man i'm good i can't i made a name for myself it's okay hey free frank what's up sharpie hey bro i you

know i want 82 he's like hey take it sharpie you know i i wear any number he's like all i do is snap the ball anyway i don't remember number number don't really matter to me i said nah bro i want to take the number like that. Hey, it's yours. Hey, what can I do for you? Like, you know, I fish. So I bought him a bass boat. Thank you. Yeah.

So that's how I operate. But that is a very nice gesture from Ashley Kelly and Shohei showed his his faints in a very, very way very great hey a brand new porsche and i think she's like i'm like i'm a i'm a mom and it ain't come out it didn't come out of my hubby's pocket yeah so she's gonna be true cruising around with baby the car seat in a porsche that's live that hey all the way sleepy man Man Juan donated money to Rocio. He said, your nose look like

they came with your glasses. Man, look here. Bro, what you want me to have a look? You want me to have a look? Rest your soul on Michael Jackson nose? How that go look? Bro, this is me. I ain't got no Botox.

I ain't got no nose job. I ain't got no fillers. Bro, I'm a black man with nigerian with nigerian roots i don't know how you expect me to look and you got nigerian roots too yeah like 97 wait a minute boy i got 68 i'm 68% Nigerian. I'm serious. You know, I'm a Yahoo boy. You know about the Yahoo boys? No? Yeah, do you?

Well, I'm the leader now, but we'll talk about that later. Fonte Johnson said, oh, where can I get one of those Randy Ross t-shirts? I'm feeling that. Bro, I don't know. I didn't even notice that's who was on there. You know, that's sexy. That'm feeling that. I didn't even notice that's who was on there. That's sexy. Hey.

You be having some dope tees, man. Where you be getting your t-shirts from? My sister. She likes things that she think I would wear. I like catchy stuff. Plus, I ain't really trying to dress up I'm trying to be as comfortable as I possibly can for two hours. You doing something for an extended for two hours so you know it's all about

but you're doing something for an extended period of time Ocho you know it's all about comfort forget that look man you are dressed for what I wish I might Merry Christmas to who's this Devin Bell he said Merry Christmas to everyone in your family Chad you know you

did wrong for buying that little tree yeah Ocho you know damn well you can't have a Christmas tree that's shorter than the baby. Listen, you need to understand women. When a woman says, listen, when a woman says, baby, go get a tree. She didn't give me no specifics on size, color. What the hell you listen if you send me to get a tree i'm going to get the cheapest tree i can find because it's it's one day we're gonna take pictures i know you're all about aesthetics and it came with lights look at that little tree boom it ain't it's the same size as french fry yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A Christmas tree shouldn't be the same size French fryer.

Well, actually, actually, no, that's her fault. Because if you wanted a big tree in this whole production, you could have went and got it yourself. How about this here? You knew. Why would you send me? You know I'm going to go find the cheapest tree I could possibly find. You dug that up. You didn't go buy that tree. You dug that up. You ain't even going to buy that tree.

You dug that up on the way to the tree. Ocho, but this is what I want to, hey, Real. I want to know why the hell you wait on Christmas Eve to get a tree to begin with. Because you get the best deals the day before Christmas. You get the best deal. I just did my shopping yesterday. It's a day. You get the best Christmas deals do my i just did my shopping uh yesterday and today you get the best christmas deals right before christmas hit well if that's the case how about you might as well if that's

the case you should have waited till uh the 26th because all the christmas trees gonna be worth five dollars and just put that put it up then i mean you want the best deal hey i do the same thing every year before she came along i always waited a day before christmas to get my tree because i get a better deal. Or you get some, you know, sometimes they be a little scruffy. You know, it be the ones nobody want to pick out.

Boom, but I got tired of, I got tired of the pine smell. I got tired of the bristles falling off and messing up the house. So what I do, I started getting little tiny trees like this. And it's efficient. And it's not about,

it's the thought that counts. There ain't no no thought i think you wrong i well she thought you were crazy who you brought that little ass tree home i i think i think it works it doesn't it works just fine where are you in the chat red if you're in the chat if you love us and it's christmas send us a thousand dollars right now how much you love us i had a treat i had a tree about this tall. But I was in an apartment when I was in Denver. And so I just put it up.

I put it out like three weeks before Christmas. Plug it in the wall. They take it out, put it right back in the little storage area. But Ocho, you got kids. Ocho, it was just me. It does the job, though. It's doing the job. The kids worry about the presents. They don't really care about the tree

You can't put nothing up under there but a bow You ain't put no presents up under there I am the bow We put the presents around You put the presents around the tree Not under the tree Under the tree is when you was young Now you put them around the tree

If you put the presents around And stack them presents up You ain't gonna be able to see the tree Man that look like a little cactus Ocho if you put the presents around and stack them presents up, you ain't going to be able to see the tree. You ain't going to be able to see the tree. Man, that look like a little cactus, Ocho. Man, if I ain't know, man, I swear you living in Arizona. You put lights on a cactus and try to fool somebody and tell me that's a Christmas tree. Man, friends probably going to get a finger prick

fooling with that Christmas tree, man. Hey, what you say is a what? A what? A cactus? Yeah, a little cactus. Man. Hey, listen. I thought a what? A what? A cactus? Yeah, a little cactus. Man. Hey, listen. I thought I did a good job.

I thought I did a good job. Real, he didn't do no good job. I didn't spend money. I didn't spend money on the tree, but I spent money on the gifts, and that's what it's all about. It ain't about the gifts. Obviously, we know what the day is for, but the tree is sufficient, and it's going to get the job done. Did Rell send us our money? Rell sent money.

Rell said no. Rell said she tapped out from Kribble. No, no, no, no, no. Rell sent us $1,000. Don't do that. Happy holidays, baby. Let's act like we're in the spirit now. Come on.

What's the point of you being rich if you ain't going to share now? Share the wealth. God loves a cheerful giver. Come on now. A little thousand ain't going to hurt you. Share the wealth. God loves a cheerful giver. Come on now. A little thousand ain't going to hurt you. J.R. Locke said, Chad, you my guy going to need you

with a stat sheet if you want to be on the ESPN with Unc. You still my guy, but you need to be prepared. You'll feel bad. He saw my setup. I got a little setup. You can't see it right now. Let me see your setup. I got a setup too. No, you ain't got no setup like I got a setup turn it around oh yeah let me see it let me see it let me see I mean I'm up here I'm up with this thing hey you hey you got me excited

come on turn that thing around oh shit so what kind of computer what's that Oh shit So What kind of computer What's that All I do is I can I can punch on any team And all the stats

All the stats that'll come up I can turn it that way Like that Yeah See Hey But how How you

How you Is that a program A program or something Yeah you know I'm just Hey We gotta be prepared Don't you But how you How you, how you, is that a program, a program or something? Yeah, you know, I'm just, hey, we got to be prepared, don't you? But how you do that? I got to watch all the games to know my information, not just take my notes. Yes, you watch the games, but you watch the game to give your analysis.

But you're not going to remember every single stat off the top of your head. This gives you the actual stats. Rushing yards. Who did what? Devin Singletary had nine attempts, 44 yards. Davis Mills, so forth and so on. Now I can come down here and see what the defense did. Tackles, assists, you know, forced fumbles, interceptions, sacks.

So, and then I just hit on any game. See, that's crazy. I can stop wasting my goddamn pen and paper. I got my little notepad. I got my little notepad. I use my little notepad. So I'm jotting down all these goddamn notes and I could have been doing that. Yes.

How much is one of those? I don't know. It's not that much. I don't know. $1,200. You're not that much. $1,200. I'm not that much.

It's completely different. $1,200. $1,200. Oh, hell no. You got to invest in yourself, Ojo. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask in yourself hold your let me ask you a question you let me ask you a question let me ask you a question my investment right here i write everything down how much do you have you read mr b story do you see how much he invests in his stuff nah yeah yeah that's why he has two he has 215 million subs. Wait, hold on.

How much you think his stuff costs? Give me a roundabout number, just on something. He bought an entire city for his team. Wait, come on now. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. He bought an entire city. He does about 70 million a year. You got Ocho. It takes money to make money.

Hey, you know what we gonna do? What you mean? I already did it. What you mean we? You not from France? Hold on. I'm talking about, listen, you know what? We finna buy a city too. What you mean? We finna buy a city.

Ocho, you won't spend $1,200 on a computer screen, but you talking about buying a city. Hold on. I'm finna buy a city. Ocho, you won't spend $1,200 on a computer screen, but you talking about buying a city. Hold on. I'm finna spend it now because if Mr. Beast could do it, guess who could do it? That's what I've been trying to tell you for a long time. Listen, me and you, because you know why me and you could do it?

Because we beast too. Yes. Yeah. Hey, I don't, hey, you see, I don't, hey, that's how I look at it, Ocho. I ain't going to lie. Damn. 70 million a year?

A year. Oh, man, we finna catch, buddy. We finna catch, buddy. We coming for that. I don't know we gonna get 215 million subs, but I know we can put out good enough content that advertisers and sponsors will want to be a part of this. Yeah.

Listen, we can get there because I can tackle every demographic. I can get people that don't even watch football to come listen to these stories, listen to our experiences, the life lessons, the gems. That's what I try to get people to understand. People thought I was trying to replace you with gill gill is just another component that's something else we can talk about basketball when the olympics come around i'm gonna have people that that ran in the olympics that are participating in the olympics to help guide us through that's what we do and then guess

what ocho we we're putting other people in shea Media up on the club, Shea Shea, to do a lot of other different. Somebody that does finances. Somebody that does health and wellness. Somebody besides you and I that talk about sports. Somebody that. Yes. I like that.

That's how you have to. We finna build a fucking empire. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. And so that's what I people oh you try

no I'm not trying to replace but there's a think about it Popeyes could have just make still been making money doing fried chicken

didn't they add the chicken sandwich hey that chicken sandwich was crazy boy a lot of fights by that chicken sandwich now the whole lot of

fights what was McDonald's known for burgers Big Mac quarter pounder didn't they add chicken nuggets A lot of fights by that chicken sandwich now. The whole lot of fights. What was McDonald's known for? Burgers, Big Mac, Quarter Pounder. Quarter Pounder, yeah. Then they added chicken nuggets. Nuggets. You see how they expand?

Mm-hmm. See, oh, we got the football, but now I'm going to have somebody bring basketball. They're going to say, okay, Uncle Ocho doing basketball. And guess what, Ocho? You and I talk about a lot of other things that's not sports related. So now we get the lifestyle. Now we get the entertainment people. They're like, okay, man.

You got to think. You got to think. If you want to be outside of the box, you got to think outside of the box. Think outside the box, yeah. And you say you didn't want to be in the box. I ain't never been in there. Well, I need you to think. Let's go.

Well, I'm going. Hey, Real, send me $1,200 to get this. What's that called? That's an Apple? Huh? That's Apple products? She gave you $400. She said that's it.

She gave me $400 what? $400. Where's that? Real said she got. Yeah, she gave $400 what? $400. Where's that? Real estate. Yeah, she gave $400. She donated $400? Yep. What type of cheap?

What? What are we going to do with that? I'm trying to get the IBM. Hold on. She said, oh, you should have saw my face when my baby walked in. Baby, I got you. I got to have it set up like right up. You should have seen my face when my baby walked in.

Baby, I got you. We're going to have it set up just like up. Hey. Yes, way to come through, baby. I got to prepare. I got to prepare like up now. Shit, I i gotta think outside the box uh 10 one love 10 said will nightcap continue after football season absolutely of

course that's good i like that we're probably not gonna have the four days we'll probably have two days and then you don't have basketball season but yeah absolutely because guess what we going up to the super bowl and then you got free agency then you got the draft so we're gonna be going we're gonna be going strong now i'm gonna take some time off uh it trade like like after the uh nba finals right oh i'm gonna take about two months off because i got to i got to like I got to decompress because it's been a really really long year for Unk so Unk gonna take him some time off

Ash gonna take some time off Jordan gonna take some time off even though Jordan take time off a lot now it's hard to get it to him like damn I need to give you a beeper I need to give him a beeper that's sharp so that way that your buddy's shocked me you know what i do hey uh what's going on bro i called you seven hours ago

uh jeff king asked oh how do your dogs handle fireworks um they never they i i well the the uh the two i now, they've never been around fireworks. I never because I see some people like when I was in Atlanta, we used to walk up to Lennox Mall and they let the fireworks go. And I see people bring the dogs. I'm like, why would you bring your dog? Don't put him in that situation. Now, my dog, I had a dog, an Akita named Sam. Somebody called him Bo. He didn't like he didn't like Thunder. So he would go get in the closet or i would let him go downstairs and go to the basement then he

wouldn't hear any of it but uh i don't think i don't think they never they've never heard it and so i'm gonna try to do everything i can to make sure because i don't want every time a loud noise go off they think it's something and then they get spooked. Right. Isaiah the fourth said, have my second hit replace, have had my second hit replacement Monday. Stay blessed. Isaiah,

bro, you will live life again, man. I'm telling you, it was the best thing that the only thing that I hate is that I waited so long to get it done

because here I am thinking I'm stretching and I'm doing all these exercises and it's going to make it better. And nothing made it better until I put that fresh titanium in there once I got that fresh titanium now all of a sudden I'm living I ain't just getting by I'm not just surviving I'm living I have life again that does it bother you when it's cold though nothing like when you're in the cold you know you know I'm talking about right sometimes when you have okay. Okay. Okay. Mm-hmm I mean you I've been people saw it. I put it up on my page. I can squat I can leg press leg extension leg curl

I could do all that you can still do all that. Yeah Man, wait, you see a squat you can see a squat. Yeah, I don't I don't I don't I don't do I use the machines to squat I don't I don't use Bob but I, but I was doing box squats with weight on my back, but I didn't really like that. I do pendulum squats and things of that nature, leg pressing. Man, Ocho, that thing got everything hurt. I knew I was

in trouble when I couldn't sleep at night because I couldn't find a position that was comfortable. Everything just ached. If I stood too long... No matter which way you turned. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. And made your boy lay

six. Now I'm good. What's wrong with you? He was on fire. I ain't like Ochoa. That's a yeah. It was Ochoa. Hey, I told the doctor. I said, Ochoa started messing with N wasn't hey I told the doctor I said he wasn't started messing with Nazzy

cause I was getting I was getting the surgery it's time to get surgery huh man hey hurt so I mean Ocho I'm talking about Ocho I'm talking about literally literally hey Ocho I had to take painkillers before I had sex

what yes yes i'm literally that bad crying afterwards crying wait when you what's one side of your hip or both sides both b-o-a-f both of them hurt wait how did it even get to that point you got hit you got hit well it's uh it's hereditary in my family um okay my uh my brother had his replaced my sister about to get both of hers replaced I've had both of mine replaced so it's a it's hereditary and uh my mom said I'm just like my mom said I done made it to 80, about to be 81. She said, hey, I'm good. She said, hey, I ain't going nowhere in a hurry anyway. I said, mama, it ain't hurting bad enough. I said, because I said the exact same thing. I remember my brother, I was getting those injections.

And he said, you know what? He said, I got those injections. He said, but one day you're going to go and it's going to feel like you got a placebo. He said, it's going to feel like they gave you sugar water. And I remember that day just like it was yesterday. It was June. I was getting ready to go to Atlanta, and I got the shot,

and I remember walking out. And I was like, damn, it don't feel like they did nothing. It was still hurting? It was still hurting. Even after I got it, and they gave me shots in both of them. I'm talking about he gave me a full syringe in both of them. I got on the phone. I'm pulling out the parking deck. I'm talking about he gave me a full syringe of both of them. I got on the phone. I'm pulling out the parking deck.

I called. I called my assistant. I said, call the doctor back and tell him I want to get my hip replaced. That was in June. What's that? What's that procedure like? Well, it's different because in the old days they went through my brother's glute.

Now they just do an incision in the front of your leg. Break it. Take it out. Whoa, whoa. But they do a machine. They do a machine. See, now it's surgical. They got a machine that just lines it up.

Doctor's just looking. All he did, the cord. And that machine does everything. Let it open. Pop it out. Put the new one in there Ocho I had the surgery

on a Saturday yeah five days so that following Thursday I was squatting doing lunges and everything oh so this is

something simple it's not even a complicated no you gotta you gotta hey you have to understand now I'm used to having, so you're an athlete,

you're used to dealing with pain. Because think about how long I did this. I dealt with that pain for three years, four years. And so, I'm like, oh, I'm coming. Because now, to get you out, because I had the surgery, I got in there at 6 o'clock, 6.30,

did a starting surgery at like 7.30. I was home about 1 o'clock. Okay, so it's not that long i thought i thought the surgery is process no the surgery is 90 minutes to make you walk up and down and fly the steps three times make you go to the bathroom they get your ass up out of there say you finna get up out of here we need this bed for somebody else so i got up out of the ocho oh oh i would go i take me like three or four Advil or Tylenol to deal with that pain because I got to squat. I got to lunge. I got to do

all that stuff. I said, I'm coming up out of here. The first surgery, it took me 10 days to walk unassisted. So no walker, no crutches. The next one took me six days. Oh, I'm coming up out of there. I knew what to expect. Right.

I would have been smooth sailing, but they gave me something Ocho and I had an allergic reaction So now I got hives everywhere. I mean I got So now I got to go to a UCL emergency a medical emergency. They got to give me give me these shots I got to go to see it. It was just just like ugh but Ocho your boy healthy your boy healthy that's crazy I didn't have any surgeries obviously I didn't get hurt but what I did

what I did do the only thing I did do was you know in the ankle when you have bone spurs Arthur said the side stroke saved him hip. You ever had to get scoped, the little scopes? Yeah. I did the scope in my ankles.

Let's say just for the sake of arguing, like maybe on a Monday. Man, I'm back out there trying to run around probably Friday, and Coach Lewis then had to throw me off the field. Oh, yeah. Angle still swollen. All I did was just a little cleanup. Yeah. Bone spurs that broke off. Oh, that's what them linemen were, Ocho.

We had them linemen we'd get scope on Tuesday and play on Sunday. Okay. Okay. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah. And me, I had ankle problems. My ankle used to kill me. I had the nerves taking out my ankle. What? Yeah. You can do that? I had to play, Ocho. I had ankle problems. I had my man and my ankle used to kill me. I had the nerves taking out my ankle.

What? Yeah. I had to play. Oh, so I had to play. Wait, hold on. How you get the nerves taking out your ankle? They deaden them. They kill the nerves.

You can kill the nerves. I had them killed. I said, I'm tired of this. So how are you going to feel? How are you going to feel? I don't want to feel it. It is what it is. I got a finite period

I got a finite period of time to play NFL football I don't do Hansel and Gretel I don't save nothing for the trip home I don't drop no bread from I give you everything I got right then and there so when it's over it's over that's why I was able to walk away

and leave nothing you can say I did this or I didn't do that. Everybody that played with Shannon know I gave you everything I had. I left no stone unturned and I didn't save nothing for the trip home. But you say you took the nerves. I had it dead. They dead.

I had feel nothing. Nothing. You know I didn't numb your tooth? How do you want to put your... Yeah, the anesthesia. But I had it numb. It's done. Done. I don't feel nothing. You thought me, kick me on my ass. I didn't numb your tooth. How do you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I had it numb. Dumb is done. Done. Don't feel nothing.

You thought me kick me on my outfield. So you got your feeling back now, though, right? No, I ain't got no feeling in it. I'm good. Oh, Joe. I don't need no feeling in it. I need feeling somewhere up a little higher. Oh, you know, I need to come on up a little higher.

That way I need to feel it. You're talking about my ankle. What the ankle going to do? I never heard of that. I didn't even know that was possible. Man. That's dope. That's dope.

Hey, Ocho, I had to do it. Hey, my girl, Faye. Faye said, hi, Shannon Ocho, friend, invest in yourself. Remember, you cannot reap the harvest the same day you plant the seeds. The heart of a man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps. Keep growing, Ocho. Yeah. I like that, Faith.

Faith has been one of the ones that's been here from day one. I'll tell you, from the very first time that we went live back in September to what was that? Ninth? Because it was a Sunday. I think it was September the 9th. Right. Faith, Lainey Ray, Uncultured J,

and there's one more. They've been here from day one, from the absolute start of it. So we want to really, really appreciate you guys. Upgrade King said, congrats on all the success, Uncle Ocho. Ocho, you need a better background, please. Scary money don't make no money.

Wait, what's wrong with my background? We gonna get you, what you got? We gonna get you a, you see how my sign is? We ordered a, that's Club Shea Shea. We ordered one that goes to say nightcap. I like that.

But my background is what I do. Listen, you know I smoke cigars. That's my cigar line right there. You know I love soccer. I love soccer to death. You know? Ocho. Ocho.

You're not a teenager anymore. You about to make lots of money in that room I have lots of money already and I still you ain't gonna have much we gonna be making okay I know what you mean

we two beasts exactly you don't like this no not really it represents me I'm a gamer you know I'm a gamer you ain't no my you don't like you don't like this no not really it represents me i'm a gamer you know i'm a gamer my bangles you know you ain't no gamer how much you make gaming uh maybe only only about 35 35 000 a month not that much because i don't do it enough i mean no i'm not that i don't do it enough and just i have to put in the time eight nine hours a day and you

know you don't get that kind of time exactly i had I had that kind of... You know who'd be on my ass about gaming too much. It's time to, like, look, Uncle Nocho, we professional. Right. We gotta have a different mindset. Right. So you don't like my

thing? No. Cordell Holmes said, hey, guys, happy holidays to y'all and everybody in the chat questions with who y'all what are your what are y'all's top three men's cologne oh so this your area era area because i don't work alone i haven't wore cologne since i was in college so this is take off hold on this is i'm so glad i'm so glad you asked dior savage that's that's one of them this is that that would be third. I'm going to give you my top three.

I just took a picture of this for somebody else the other day. Louis Vuitton Illuminis. I think I'm saying it right. Baby, if you're in the chat, please spell that correctly for me. Louis Vuitton Illuminis. That's the name of it. And the third, this is number one right now. I guarantee you.

Oh, here we go. I found it. It's called Blue Talisman. Blue Talisman. Like spelled blue and then T-A-L-I-S-M-A-N. I ain't never smelled none like this. I ain't never smelled none like this. It smells so good

I had to take a picture of it so I could I could tell somebody exactly what it was they kept asking me people keep asking me what you wearing I couldn't remember the name

so I took a picture because every time they asked me I just show them I just show it to them Blue Talisman so good that's my top three I'm not sure

if in the chat y'all got something else that I didn't name you know let me know because I could always use some some good cologne when I was in college Ocho you know I had drink car you know I said you remember that drink car hey the red the red bottle like burgundy it was all black black bottle yeah yeah okay okay I had that clabber clown obsession with them pheromones in it yeah man. Man, I put that on Ocho.

Man, you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red apple. You couldn't tell me nothing. I'll come out, you know, I bowlegged. You know, I one-legged and bowlegged it, Ocho. Right, right, right. But I come out there, but there be some push-ups. Oh, you see how yellow? Oh, you see that, Ocho? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I ain't been working out like I supposed to, but you see that? Yeah. In 24, it going to be on. I'm going to be Jordan down. Because Jordan think, see, Jordan think he could be in better shape than me. He leading the game. He don't even know. He don't even know.

Him dead, he don't even know. You going to lean up a little bit? I'll be leaning. Yeah. Just to beat him down to let him know. But it's going to cost him 10,000. Oh, y'all bet. Oh, y'all bet 10.

10 bands on it. Wait, hold on. You bet 10,000 that you can get leaner before he can? I'm going to be leaner than him. By when? What's the date? Whatever you want to date it you want to set it. Okay. Hey that's a big

boy. That's a big bet there boy. I like it. That's a big bet. He won't just get paid for money. Be OK. He just he can't. He can't do it all now. But this time is going to be out of necessity.

Right. Right now, because he won't do. He will need to eat it when I get done. Of course, you say, oh, you you try the finals yet. Also, favorite game outside. Yeah. Oh, excuse me. It's an ultra. Yeah. You try the finals yet, also favorite game outside Ocho. You tried the finals yet, also favorite game outside of EAFC.

Last video game you played, no offense, but I'm trying to say Technobowl. God damn. Nah. You took me back. Your last game you played was 10-yard fight. Nah. I don't know.

I'd have to ask my daughter. She upstairs asleep. I mean, she probably was 2002. She probably was, I don't know, 9, 10. I don't know. It's been a while. Ocho, I don't know. It's been a while. I don't know. Oh, Joe,

I didn't have time. My time. Oh, Joe had time for video games. Now I did not. Oh, Joe, I wake,

I wake up at nine. I wake up and I would wake up. I would eat breakfast. I go to the track. I would spend two hours on the track. I come back, eat. I would nap.

I'd go to the gym for two hours. I would come back, sit in the cold tub, take a shower. I would stretch back, eat, I would nap. I'd go to the gym for two hours. I would come back, sit in the cold tub, take a shower. I would stretch. That was, and then I would get massages three days a week. So I really didn't have time. Okay, okay, okay. To like, my mind, and I was, all I was thinking, I'm writing down, okay, what do I want to do this year?

Okay, how am I going to do this? What do I need to do? A, ABP, I need you to send me, send me all the practice cut ups of every time I ran Y out send me the cut ups of every time I ran Y choice send me the game cut footage of when I ran

Blank or Drive or when I excuse me when I ran Fox 2 X and Y hook I'm just constantly watching okay damn that's why he. So, Ocho, I didn't. But listen, I didn't do it to the extent you did it, but I did it, but I also had my time to be able to enjoy the things that I like to do

when I want to get away from the game. Like you have to have something that gives you. Huh? I would go to the movies. Let me tell you what I did. Okay. See, you're just not a gamer. I understand. I get it. I get it. I went to the movies. I go to the movies let me tell you what i did okay you see you you just not a game right i understand i get it i went to the movies i i went to them i went i think it was

probably about 10 30 11 o'clock i went to the movies i got home about about 1 a.m right i saw six movies and people said well why did you say i want to see if I can do it? Right. I would push myself. I would go two days. I wouldn't eat. Just to see if I could do it. I wanted to know because I'm going to ask my body. I will call on my body in the fourth quarter. Right. I needed to respond.

Hmm. I can't ask about you. Can't ask the body to give you something you didn't give it. You got to be able to put the you all know what a man can do until you put him to the test. I'm trying to put you to the test. Every time I run around, I'm trying to put a DB to the test. I'm trying to put the line back into the test because I don't know if you can pass the test that I'm going to give you. Right.

So but I got to give myself the test first because I can't ask you a question that I don't know the answer to answer to. I like that. So that was your man. because I can't ask you a question that I don't know the answer to. Answer to. I like that. So that, Ocho, man, like I said, my kids, I love my kids so much because of what they didn't get an opportunity

to do with their dad. And I was wrong for that, but that was the only way I knew. That was the only way I knew. And, you know, when they, you know, they come at different times. My son hadn't been here in a while. He's married now. My daughter in law got my grandson.

But the two girls, they come and, you know, and we have conversations and especially the oldest one, the oldest one. And she's she's kind of more of a talker. And so I'll be laying in the bed and you come dead. What you doing? I let nothing. So you get in the bed and we'll talk about things. You like, you know, you know how much she appreciate what i did and although she didn't understand she appreciated and she understands now as she's an adult and she understands why i work so hard yeah and like find things that that and i always told him look i never pushed him in any direction until i saw the direction they were going in once I saw the direction they were going in. Once I saw the direction they were going in, now I'm going to push it because I never wanted my kids to get to be 25 or 30 and said, I only did something because you wanted me to do it, dad.

So I was always mindful of that. Now, once you start something, you're going to finish it. You might not be a you might not do it again next year, but you gonna finish it out this year you don't got my money and i had to buy all this you know what for you to do you're gonna do it but now i had a singular focus like i said i was no good that's why i'm not people like why you're not married because i had a singular focus football i was married to football i loved it and i didn't have no affair i didn't cheat on it yeah so yeah balance is good though baby ain't no balance to greatness ain't no balance to greatness you think tom brady had a balanced life you think lebron james had a balanced life

jordan tell me the great player kobe that's your favorite guy kobe you You think Kobe had a balanced life? You think Jeff Bezos and all these guys, I ain't talking about now. It's easy to be balanced now. You're worth $130 billion. You're worth $200 billion. You're worth $50 billion. Getting to that point, the trials and tribulations that

you got to go through to get to that point. Okay. I get where you're going. And the thing is that you have to have somebody. Because here's the thing. People ask the question, say, why does movie stars marry other movie stars? Because the other know what it's like to live that life. Yeah.

In the character. Right. To become something. To become someone. in the character right to become something to become someone so unless you've been there and know what it's like how can you possibly understand understand i think that's a good one that's right you're right and so people but why why you eat the same thing over and over why you do the same thing they say insanity is doing the same thing over and over. Over and over and over and expecting different results. I did the same thing over and over hoping for the same results

because I had seen that success. That's all I wanted. I like that. Or of it. I mean, success is a drug, Ocho. Yeah. Do you know what it's like when you scored your first touchdown? You wanted to score another one. When you got your first 100-yard game, you wanted a 200, Ocho. Yeah. Do you know what it's like when you scored your first touchdown? You wanted to score

another one. When you got your first 100-yard game, you wanted a 200-yard game. You wanted another. It's like, and there's nothing like that. They say heroin,

which is one of the strongest drugs. They say that first high, they call it chasing the dragon. They say you chase that. You want that feeling one more time yeah but it takes more and more to get that that's why you're od i wanted that feeling i got with the very first touchdown that i scored the very first time i saw those fans stomping their

feet and i saw them in my jersey and they were applauding what I did. Oh, man. I never lost sight of that, the Ocho. They were applauding what I did, not who I was. And a lot of times you say, well, guys get lost because everything, what they do is football or basketball. That's what I did. That ain't who I am. Right.

I'm a chameleon. I play football. I can I am I'm a chameleon I play football I can talk I can motivate you I can coach you I can teach you that's what I need guys to understand sports is what you do

that ain't who you are but do you know who you are if I took that away from you what could you be come on we'll we'll we'll we'll move it on uh pause most shannon you're so good on this so much better than tv has the very smart way he's not limited to 90 seconds pause more i really appreciate that it is what it is uh uh pause you know, that's what TV is. I like the four. But I do like the format that I had.

Undisputed. I do. I love the format of ESPN because it does give me a chance to expound. It's a lot easier when it's a one on one with just Ocho and I. Because and plus we can take as much time as we want. Yeah, it's our show. We we don't have. And so we're not limited we can go we hey because

originally ojo you remember we were only supposed to be 25 minutes we don't that ain't gonna work in the first night we're like man we went an hour i said but man o, we left so much on the floor. And I'm like, bro, I mean, what happens if we go an extra 30 minutes? But I'm like, we're still leaving so much material on the floor. There's so much stuff that we need to get to. And the next thing you know, we was at two hours. And so, but I really appreciate you guys, man. Yeah, you know what i really like though and i don't think people understand like what we have and no disrespect to undisputed no disrespect to

first take but what we have the formula the format in which we which we operate it's so good yeah it's so authentic it's so organic because there's a there's another element to it where we can be ourselves oh for sure. Where things aren't scripted. Obviously, we're going to talk football. We're going to talk football. That's cool. That's cool.

Think about yesterday. Think about yesterday. What I loved about yesterday was the disagreement about boxing and you telling me to pick something and you getting upset and you getting angry and then me actually getting angry too because you know what you fall to i don't i don't i don't feel like changing the the the duel the duel and personalities the duel and beliefs and being able to maybe not even compromise and in that in that sense but just have opinions and standing on business on what you believe in and then coming right back the next day shit like nothing happened that's it like you can't get that and you can't get that nowhere

else that authentic that authenticity that we have the chemistry is unmatched yes it's unmatched that's god-given because the thing is god-given it is But here's the thing. You're passionate about what you believe in. I'm passionate. So you're supposed to have like, no, bro, no, it's not like that. This is what it's like. Because how can you not be passionate and be great at something? That's why they, what do they always tell you? Find something that you love and you can make money at it.

Yeah. Because you become passionate about it. And it don't feel like work. It doesn't feel like work. So many times, you know, hey, like what would. And so somebody said, man, if you weren't six foot and 200 some pounds, you wouldn't have been great. You wouldn't have been a great football player. So I'd have been great at something else. That's what a great football player so I'd have been great at something else

that's what I'd have been I'd have been great at something else but you never know what that something else would have been I hate when people say that because my thing was I put my focus on football sports so you mean to tell me with my mindset

I wouldn't have been a good lawyer really you think that that's what mindset, I wouldn't have been a good lawyer? Really, you think that? That's what you think? Wow. That would have been great. I don't know anything but greatness. I don't know anything about hard work. Yeah.

And when you're willing to work hard, you're willing to pay a price to sacrifice, oh, you could be great. But y'all, I don't let people tell me what I can and can't do Xavier Sampson said Merry Christmas Uncle Nocho love the show I stay locked down what's the best Super Bowl of all time to y'all well my first one Super Bowl 32

we won I'm always going to take the one I mean but it's hard how do you not take one you know what's that the Patriots and the I mean, but it's hard. How do you not take one? You know, what's that? The Patriots and the Seahawks. The Rams, the Rams and the Bengals.

How do you not take that? That was a good one. The 49ers, the 49ers, the one Jerry went off, they came back and they ended up beating you guys 20-16. Yeah. And Joe threw 200-X slant to JT John Taylor. I mean, there have been some good ones.

Oh, the Steelers. The Steelers against the Cardinals with Santonio Holmes toe-tapping the back of the end zone. Back of the end zone, yeah. That was a nice one. That's a corner. Hey, listen. Again, that Patriots-Falcons game that people thought was over because it was 28-3.

The Giants-Patriots. The Eli. That was a good one. Both of those Super Bowls were good because Eli made two gate throws. That throw to Mario Manningham in 2010. Manningham on the sideline. Oh, Joe.

Got his toes in. Oh, Joe. That was nice. Against two men. That was nice. And he got to get it up and down because the safety coming. Coming right away. And guess what?

Everybody knows in the stadium, like, they can see, like, oh, my goodness. He's about to get blown. The safety know he's coming and mario manningham knows he's coming coming yeah yeah so for me i a super bowl 32 because we beat the packers uh we were what 11 12 point underdogs and the nfc had won 14 straight super bowls so we broke the strangle hole so that my favorite joseph grosk wrote, donated $200 and said, my son wants to be a fullback. If the fullback position done in NFL for the most part.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Except the 49ers. The 40, the 49ers have a fullback and, uh, the Ravens.

That's basically two. That's basically two or 32 teams. The Ocho. How many fullbacks you think they carry on the roster you're right yeah well you know uh why how do you how you say the fullback's name the last name why why is it you check yeah he can catch out he can catch out the backfield and all and richard i think it's richard or ricard I think it's Richard. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, bro.

Hey, if he can play running back, let him play running back or let him move to the defensive side. Hmm. Unk, I watched him film an Ocho. Man, Unk was always so open on the deep ball. Can you ask him what were some of his techniques to get so much separation, particularly on the deep ball step on them toes baby step on them toes every time every time and i mean i'm trying to think my my um my thing was always getting from from point a to point b i really i really i really

really rarely sat there and made moves that line very rarely I pick a side I want to go to I dip that shoulder really low and just and just get up out of there right away you know obviously I was cat quick I'm not not trying to boast or anything I was I was I was I was cat quick so that was an advantage i had had to myself and most dbs that were a little bigger you know they try to try to be aggressive try to play bully ball and it would always be a mistake it would always be a mistake because i would counter that by just getting low and get right on around now yeah you reach i teach not basically the world fastest thing you look for me out of editing gone yeah yeah merry christmas anonymous donated uh merry christmas fellas thank you for all the great content the best

podcast by far quick questions if you could play for one team today which team would you play for that's a good that's a good one. I like Andy Reid. I love Red. Because I know, I mean, he was in Green Bay with my brother. Know his wife and met them at the Pro Bowl. Big Red.

And they're going to throw that rock. Trav, you have to share some of the ball with your uncle. Shoot, I like them. Football, football, because I know y'all somebody going to say, my balls, footballs. Yeah. Probably back in Cincinnati. Let's see what it's like.

Oh, yeah, you got Joe. With Joe Burrow throwing at the helm. Yeah, but what you call going to get on the rocks, though, man? You ain't going to be getting them rocks like you got last time. Chase, you know who that. Okay, that's my dog now. He a credit card. Now we're gonna have to split them.

We gonna split them? What you gonna do? What T Higgins gonna do? Me and T gonna split too. Matter of fact, you know what? Matter of fact, I go back. I just want to. I just need.

Just put me in on third down. That's all. Nah, you ain't gonna be no third. You ain't no third down guy you ain't no guy you ain't wired like that but i'm just saying who you think who you think you trying to fool i'm a team player i'm a team i'm a team player i'm just saying so yeah okay man you you know what you know how when you say something you don't even believe it yourself and you start bad you know what you know how when you say something you don't even believe in yourself and you stop that you know i'm just saying basically hypothetically speaking you know i just that'd be dope just to play in this area in general with the way the rules are relaxed now too yeah uh mitch evans asked hey uncle nocho when was the first time you met each other I interviewed

him at CBS I think it was my second year there so it had to be like 05 oh wow I was in my prime then too that hey 05 that's Blonde Mohawk Ocho huh I think it might have been 05 you put it up

I was at CBS might have been 05? You put it up in a interview with CBS. It might have been 05, 06. Damn. Yeah. Man, I don't even remember that. Yeah, you had an apartment with a couch and a painting on the wall. That's all you had. In Cincinnati? Yep.

Okay, okay, okay. You see how you said that's all I had. I ain't need nothing else. Oh my goodness. Jeremy Shepard asked, Unk, I watched some films. Okay, we already got that one. Oh, Poster Child said, Messi and Unk versus Ocho and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Who wins 2-0 to a soccer field? Man, we gonna get killed, man. Yeah, y'all are. No, me and Messi on a team you and Cristiano Ronaldo on a team oh man we gonna destroy y'all you crazy you a liability on the pitch

you a liability me and Messi oh I got the goat two down lefty see Messi on lefty the goat the goat is Cristiano no Messi the goat. You got the GOAT. The GOAT is Cristiano. No, Messi the GOAT. Cristiano's the GOAT. Nah. The Belon Dua balls. He got the World Cup.

Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. I ain't trying to hear all that. Cristiano. When it comes to IG, ain't nobody, man. I think he got like 600 million followers. Who that? Cristiano. Yeah. He's the most

followed guy on IG. But he can't see Messi. That's a whole nother conversation. We could sit here for hours and hours and debate. Christopher Hogue said, what was your I love football moment

i love football moment but that started that started way back yeah way back i mean for for me i love football was all i had you know football was my way out that was that was the the green light to change the circumstances for myself my family at at that time yeah my my daughter just i mean just one at that time now i got a whole football team but yeah yeah but football was my everything i just knew it would get me out of i mean obviously the area i'm from i left liberty i left liberty city without really leaving if that makes sense because that's it's still it's it was still in me even though i left and i made sure to represent that to the to the fullest even though i had left the front porch but yeah probably it started like really got serious probably junior high right before high

school you understood how important those next four years were especially once you got to college yeah that was that was kind of for me oh joe when i figured out like when i found out that they played that i could like i could get paid to play football like really oh yeah and then i found out I found out, because you know, back then, you know, $100,000 back then, Ocho, when I first understood football. Man, $100,000? Back then? What?

Man. And I started, like, and I started watching Miami Vice. I don't know, when you were really young with Miami Vice. Crocs and Tubbs. Crocs and Tubbs. Yeah. And they was wearing the Ferrari. The red Ferrari?

Yeah, man. White. It was white. Magnum T.I. had the red one. Yeah. They had the white one. Had a Rolex. I said, man, look here, man.

Football was it for me, Ocho. I mean, actually, I was better in basketball and track and field than I was in football, but because my brother played football. You was better at track and field? I was better at track and field. I'm going to need to see footage. Three-time state champ, high-point trophy, best performance trophy. You know, the high- point trophy means you laid the most

points in a state meet. I did that. The best performance trophy meet. I was a class A. It doesn't happen often. I was in class A, and I was the best jumper in the state. Beat double A, triple A, quad A, five A.

As a matter of fact, I held a state record until, like, I had a state record for 35 years, 5 8. As a matter of fact, I held a state record until... I held a state record for 35 years, Ocho. I just want to see the footage. I know you got VHS. I know you got some VHS tape somewhere. I need to see the footage. I got a VCR.

Show me the footage. I didn't need no footage. You go back and look at the records, though. All right, I'm going to check the records. You go check the records. I'm going to Google the records right now. What's the name of the school? Glenville High School.

Glenville High School. Joseph Groshek just donated another $200. Go Pack, go. Shannon, could you imagine you and Sterling on the Packers together? No. He a ball hog. And I ain't like Ocho till I split the ball. No.

Sharing is caring. You learned that in kindergarten. I did. We shared enough when we growing up. Nope, nope, nope. At that point in time, Ocho now i had after i had started to develop now because you have to understand i'm three years i'm three years younger than he is so we're in high school at the same time even though we didn't go to the same college we're

in college at the same time so the comparisons were there even when i was in denver and he was in green bay so can you imagine if we're on the same team now it's time for me to make a name for myself it's time for me to show that I'm more than Sterling's little brother and even though man you know you got this I say my brother can't catch no passes from me

how you gonna get me somewhere I say you don't understand this ain't college yeah you see that that's a you see that. That's a, that's a, that, that, you see that? That number two? They still talking about that guy.

They still talking about him. No, but I think the thing was, it was best that he did. He was where he was. I was where I was. And because, you know, I was 192 in the seventh round. He was number seven in the first round. So obviously, and you know, he was good. He was a route runner.

He was a tremendous run after the catch. So you think he was a better catcher? A better catcher of the football than your third? He right here, Ocho. You see that right there? I don't know about that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a natural catcher of the ball. Yeah, I'm a natural catcher.

I'm a natural catcher, yeah. Boy, Ocho, what two players in the hall do you feel shouldn't be there in the hall man everybody that's in there shouldn't be there if they in there they in there for a reason and who the hell am I to say they shouldn't be man that's a loaded question

cause you know if they say they gonna say you know Hall of Fame member Shannon Sharpe said such and such. Oh. Right. So for me, hey, I ain't got no vote. I done did what I did. So that's y'all job. Y'all critique and do whatever you want to.

That's why I stopped asking. You know, that's like, bro, stop asking me. Y'all know. Y'all can put who y'all want to put in there anyway. So whatever. Merry Christmas. How did it feel when the Ravens went five weeks scoreless? And this is my third time asking.

Hope to see you. It was frustrating because the defense balling lights out. We didn't score a touchdown for five weeks. I think we won three of those games, didn't we? We won three of those games by not scoring a touchdown. That's how dominant our defense was. So you'll never see that again. No, hell no.

You'll never see that again. But it was frustrating. I think the thing that really helped me, Ray, and Woody, we were extremely close. And I remember having a conversation with Ray. He was like, Shay, come on, man. Y'all got to give us something. I said, I understand that. I said, Ray,

you do realize they take teams to Super Bowls, not defenses. Yeah. So it don't matter how great y'all are. We're going to figure it out. Right. We want two of the five. We want two of the five. Okay. One, two, lost three in a row um but i think the thing was ocho is that we figured out that how we needed to play

run the football stop trying to throw it trying to be something because ryan came from at that point in time i think the minnesota vikings had scored the most points in a season. He was the offensive coordinator when they had Randy and CeCe and Jake Reed and Robert Smith. They had that high-flying offensive line. I mean, the offensive... Yeah, and so now

you coming in there and you think, bro, you got me and Jermaine and Kadri and Travis Taylor was drafted in the first round. You got Patrick Johnson. Bro, you ain't Kadri and Travis Taylor was drafted the first round you got Patrick Johnson bro you ain't got that Travis Taylor yeah I said bro that ain't what we are we got Jamal who's a rookie

who's a battering ram let's use it and he's fast big man mom bro people I just wish if he'd have like really took it serious right

he'd have been in the hall yeah I ain't a guy his size I mean Jamal ran like 4'3 at 235 oh yeah

he can move he moving now yes yes and the thing was even when he was in college he would come to the track and work out with us

and I'm like like he went to he went to. And I'm like, what? He went to Doug. And I'm like, damn, who big fella? I'm like, man, wait. I mean, who you play for? He's like, man, I'm in college. College?

What big ass in college for? But hey, he was the real deal. Zach Miranda said, Uncle Nocho, love you guys. Such an inspiration. Feel like you guys are my own uncles. Been supporting since the beginning. Best Christmas game you guys have seen. Hope you and your fam have an amazing Christmas.

Damn. Best Christmas game? That's a good one. Because I don't really remember no Christmas game. Oh, yeah, I don't remember off the top I know we got I know we got one tomorrow night I know that well today actually yeah and hopefully it's a hopefully it's a very very good one

yeah I want to see a barn burner who you got who you got I took that I took the 49ers at home yeah okay I took the 49ers at home all right Disco returning donated $50 pray for the suffering in Gaza. Love you, Uncle Nocho. Do you think tight ends have been game planned out of the

modern NFL? Hell nah. Do you see Kelsey? You see Laporta? You see Hawkinson? Fredrickson from Dallas? No. What's the one from Chicago? Oh, you called Komet? Komet.

No, they're being used more now than ever before. What's the one from Chicago? Oh, you called Komet? Komet. Komet. No, they're being used more now than ever before. Because when I played, there were like two or three of them. Me. Early on, it was me, Britt Jones, Novacek, and Ben Coates. Hey, Jay Novacek. I forgot about Jay. Back in the late early 80s, it was basically

Ozzie and Kellen. That was it. It was one of two. Now, I mean, you got Kelsey, you got Laporta, you got Hawkinson, you got Kittle, you got Mark Andrews. There's more of them doing what only a handful

can do when I play. So, no, they've been game playing end because they're so skilled now. L.A. Velasco, Merry Christmas from Orlando, Uncle Nocho, my wife, Anil. And I love watching and listening to you guys. We appreciate both of you for always showing up and putting on a great show. So Eli, Eli, I said Eli, Eli, but let's go. Thank you, Eli. I really appreciate that support.

Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We really, really appreciate that. Leave Nelson B said, Uncle Nocho, happy holidays. Y'all are my heroes. You see basketball players, rappers getting friendly. Do football players get celeb friendly? Or are y'all more my heroes you see basketball players rappers getting friendly do football players get celeb friendly or are y'all more blue collar amongst yourselves

nah hell man you see how the jokers trading jerseys now but i think they don't start they don't cut some of that out because i think they're charging four hundred dollars for every jersey they trade so now now, spending $5,000 on jerseys. Yeah. No more than that. $7,000. So, $400 a game,

$10 a game, that's $4,000. And then another seven games. Oh, yeah, they're putting almost $7,000 for jerseys. Man, listen. Ocho, but that, you ain't supposed to have,

by the time you retire, you're going to have 150 jerseys. Jerseys, yeah everybody jersey jersey yep i mean depending on depending on who it is you know you got some people that play together in college you have some people that are friends from childhood friends and you know you you want to exchange jerseys but just exchange jersey just to exchange yeah and then, do that in the locker room. Do that in the hallway. Everybody don't need to see that.

You don't like exchanging jerseys? You didn't exchange jerseys with nobody when you played? Mm-mm. No? Nope. TD and I traded Pro Bowl jerseys. Yeah. And Ray and I I'm talking about regular season

me and Ray traded my last my last year in Denver, Ray and I traded I went back to Baltimore, played in Baltimore and he and I exchanged jerseys he's the only player jersey I got I ain't got my brother's jersey

but no that's crazy he and I exchanged jerseys. He's the only player jersey I got. I didn't even got my brother's jersey. Right. But no. That's crazy. Quantez says, Uncle Nocho, this show is entertaining, but y'all have reignited a fire in me to do better in life. God bless y'all and thank you. Also, I'm a power lifter.

I'm curious to know what y'all workouts fit. The most I've ever benched is 470 pounds. The most I've ever deaded is 470 pounds the most i've ever the most i've ever uh deadlift was about 600 most i've ever squatted was about 570 but i was a wide receiver doing that right uh i the most i've ever benched was i think 315 maybe twice i'm not sure if that counts somebody touched the bar uh the most i've squatted was 675 125 nah see that me i i squat with nick chubb no me and chubb squat the same we've got the same weight um dumbbell dumbbell press i like doing dumbbell presses for some reason i mean the most i've been able to say no no about 150 150 when i'm when i'm when i'm in my what's the word i'm looking for you you know what 50s i want to see you do 100s remember remember i sent you the picture where i was where i was big as hell yeah during that time i'm gonna do 105 i'll give you 105 no no

i was doing 150s i'm not playing i'm not playing. You can find... The footage is still up on Twitter. No, it ain't up there. I'm doing the 150s. I just don't know how to... I don't know how to go back that far. Did they send you when I jumped over Al Harris? Aye, they sent it to me. Al looked like a little kid, man. Did I jump over him, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was dope. That was dope.

I'm going to give you props. How many tight ends you know running comeback? Name a tight end that you think can run a comeback. Wait, you want that receiver? I want the tight end. Thank you. But you ain't answering the question. What tight end currently playing that you believe can run a comeback on a corner?

Right now? Yes. Take your time. Ain't nobody. They ain't got nobody out there like that ain't got anybody got the kind of speed to get a nigga oh god they get somebody up off of him my bad yeah i closed that hey i eat that cushion up in a hurry ocho yeah that ain't no that's it you see that stop you you see that stop hey yeah and i'm coming up out of

that thing but we threw a high i had to go up there get a head back spread the legs he go right up on my face so you thought oh i did you know as listen i'm a visual a visual I'm all about the visuals if I can't see it you might say it but I need to see it so I get a better understanding of what you're talking about because then if I don't see it and if you ain't got no footage I think you're lying laugh or what

I'm just saying running speed out what time do you know speed out 10 roll to 12 I ain't talking about stopping breaking out. What time did you know? I'm talking about speed out. 10, roll to 12. I ain't talking about stopping, breaking out. Like you run, like you run. Uh-uh, uh-uh.

I'm talking about, yeah, you see. Oh, you hurt. Oh, man, what you know about 10, roll to 12? Run the bang. Outside foot back. Back foot. When they hit it, seven. Right there.

Seven steps. Ball right there on your chest. Okay. I need to see footage, though. Run it over. I run it all, Ocho. I can run it all. Run, shake.

Yep. I need to see the footage. I'm going to go on YouTube. This thing crazy. Crazy, Ocho. Can you imagine if I was in today's game and they

couldn't touch because you know all that clutching and grabbing they don't allow now all the incidental contact. Man I eat the boys up like catfish. Read them like the morning paper. The paper would be Ocho yeah that's crazy

Merry Christmas people I hope y'all got me a gift you know what what you think what you think what you think real got you you know what boy I don you think real got you you know what

boy I don't know but if she know me as everybody else know me there's about three things that you know

I love you know I love cigars you know I love gaming but I have everything

that a gamer could have or want. So it can't be anything in that area. Damn, that's a good one because I don't really want that. I love tank tops. Tank tops, white tees. Yeah, we know you love prison guard. Dickies. You can't have enough white tees.

And I love dickies. I love dickies. Because those are things that I'm going to actually use and wear. Not getting a Christmas gift. You get it, you smile at it. And you set it somewhere and you never get worn and never use. Those are things I'm actually going to put to use um socks i love socks this is weird it's weird i'm very simple man bro you're talking like you got a homeless shelter talk about socks

and teeth the only thing that you donate to shelters shelters? No, I'm just telling you the stuff that is weird. You know me. I ain't into all that flashy shit and high-end stuff. You know what? I'm a family. Somebody brought me a Patek. A who? A Patek.

A Patek Philippe. What kind of car is that? That's a watch. Oh, I know you're talking about it. Yeah. Got the square face a little bit. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, I need that. What you call it, boy?

The AP. Yeah. You better than me, boy. You got an AP. I saw it on your wrist. See? See how you be lying on your, you can't fool me. I don't know why you.

I thought you wasn't going to lie. I wouldn't lie to you. I'd lie for you. I wouldn't lie to you. I know, but I ain't say it. I ain't use my saying. Normally, when I say that, I'm not lying. But you were supposed to lie.

You're not supposed to lie to me. I forgot I got an AP, though. You ain't forgot. I forgot. Oh, you forgot that. Of all the things you can forget, you forgot you got an AP. Yeah, because I don't really value watches like that. That was something that she thought I would have liked and, you know,

she helped me with that purchase. Mm-hmm. It must be nice. Would y'all find somebody to help me with a purchase? I mean, listen, you got them lined up. You just ain't paying them no mind. You got them lined up. You just ain't paying them mind you got them lined up you just ain't paying no mind there's only so much I can do like I told you

I can lead a horse to water but I can't make him drink ain't no water in the trough it's water in there you talking about it's a trough up there trust me it's water in there you're not looking you're not looking the water's there yeah it ain't nothing

to get wet yeah yeah i can't wait to see my baby i can't wait to see her open up these gifts man or your daughter what i i don't i just i've seen it before, most of my kids are grown. They older now, but it just, it, it. The excitement that they have. Because now, you know, she's one, you know, we got technology. I got the camera. I just, I can't wait. I can't wait.

I'm excited. Like, I can't wait. Like when we get off, I want to, I got to drive to the big house. I want to wake her up. Just open, just open, just open one. Just open one. I just want to i got to drive to the big house i want to wake her up just open just open just open one just open one i just want to see what happened no ray are you where are you still up no rail says she's asleep yeah uh thank you for watching another episode of nightcap please make sure you hit that like button make sure sure you hit the subscribe button. We gained 2,000 followers while we were in the chat

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Every day. You know, look at this. Uh-huh. Bet y'all don't know what these are. Them shoes. Them Jordans. Them 11s. They ain't no 11s. Yeah, it is. No. That's a size 11. I'm a size 11. No, I'm a 13. Oh, bad well your foot that shoe looks small now what what shoe is this nah huh nah i think ain't nobody here i don't know i don't know about that i don't know about jones if it ain't one merry christmas i love y'all thanks for joining us i'm your favorite sports arc shannon sharp he's your favorite number 85, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Merry Christmas on the East Coast. In a little less than an hour and a half, it'll be Merry Christmas on the West Coast.

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