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Because at home, they're, like, feeling down bad.
What you say?
Just their ego stroke?
More than ego.
You said most men cheat because they want their ego stroke.
Nah, girl, they most men cheat because they want something else strokes.
I don't know something else.
You can't see the ego.
You can see this, though.
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Hello, beautiful people.
Welcome to another episode of The Truth After Dark.
I am your host, Azar Faraday.
your boy paul anthony pierce what i do how you feeling it's almost the end of the year
we've had a hell of a year a lot of people have so you know i want to ask you what do you feel like
the biggest lesson you learned this year is oh the biggest lesson i learned yeah oh man
that's a good one you hit me right over the head with that one i mean there's a lot of lessons you
learn in life but the biggest one uh or a significant one well you know i think the biggest lesson you
learn is no matter what you go through good or bad you know mostly bad but you just got to
continue continue to not lose the faith okay don't lose the faith i love that when sometimes stuff
get bad and then you, you know, you, you shy away from the faith and the blessings that's been
given to you. And I think, you know, when we come upon this season of giving and holiday season,
just what I've learned is just to be more thankful for the things I have than, you know,
kind of like upset of the things that I want or don't have. You know, just be thankful for what
you got. Yeah.
Because I think some of us be, and I don't say that for me in particular.
You just sometimes take it for granted.
You know, you just, you see what's in front of you and you take it for granted.
And then you look at what other people are doing, like you say, maybe I should be in that position or this position.
You know, people say that all the time.
But, you know, for all of us out there, just be thankful that you, when you wake up and you set another foot on this earth.
and you know those are everyday lessons you just don't take it for granted so the biggest lesson for me
is just not taking life for granted i guess in so many words and remembering that comparison is the
thief of joy yeah you know i don't really compare myself but i hear it and i see it i love everything
i have i love my friendships i love my just everything i have enough you know i have more than i need
You know, so I'm thankful for that.
That's dope.
I would probably say the biggest lesson for me that I learned this year is that
is to shut out outside noise and opinions.
I feel like for a long time I've always been the person that wants to, like, prove a point.
Like, no, it's not like that.
This is not what it is.
This is not how I am or whatever it is.
And I realize that you don't have to prove yourself to anybody.
Like, as long as I'm locked in with God and the people who love me,
me that I love, I don't care, you know, and I think that even for me, like, comments or
people's opinions, like, used to get to me, like, at the beginning of the year and throughout
this year a little bit, and towards the end of the year, I realize, like, it doesn't even
matter what you think, because nothing I do will ever make everybody happy, and I can't
live a life trying to appease people, because then I'm putting myself on the back burner.
So putting yourself first and not worrying about what other people are saying or thinking of
you because there's always going to be someone who's judging you and in the great words
of the future if you ain't got no haters you ain't popping oh that part so period okay
i got them baby so that's wonderful to hear because like i go through that every time i'm in
front of a camera whatever i say is going to get ridiculed yeah whether and you know i have a
strong opinion and whether i'm right or wrong on different topics truth up the dark or sports
comment people always you gotta remember people always gonna have something to say
100% don't go out here trying to be make sure whatever you say or do if it's not you
trying to say oh I just want to be liked because when you start feeding it I want to be liked by
everyone it ain't gonna go well because that one time when you say something they don't like
you ain't gonna be at a handle it just go do you you know be yourself because your true
authentic self is amazing you know and people either go hate it or love it
And who cares?
You know what I'm saying?
And you can't let the highs get you too high
because then the lows will get you too low.
That's the thing.
Like if you're like,
oh my God,
everyone's loving me right now,
I love it,
I love it.
And you're so high off of that,
then the moment they don't love you
because they won't,
you're going to feel so low,
you know?
You can't allow that to dictate.
You don't need outside validation.
No.
You know what I mean?
And that's something that I've learned,
you know,
just going through this process is like,
I don't need it.
or if people, because people say so much about me, you know, and it's like, okay.
And now I'm like, okay, cool, you know, I'm not going to let you get to me.
I'm not going to prove a point to you.
It is what it is.
That part.
That part.
Okay.
You got me doing that bullshit.
That dumb clocky shit.
Okay, so let's get into some little topics that's going on in the world, okay, honey.
So Shark takes Barbara Cochran.
Did I say her name right?
Yeah, Barbara Cockerwood.
She praised Mark Cuban.
for being so loyal to his wife,
even with all the power and the money that he has.
And she then goes on to say that it's hard for men to stay faithful
who are in his position of, like, money and power or fame.
And she also said if she could attract younger men,
then she would cheat on her man.
Damn.
She took a left field with that,
but my question is,
do you feel like powerful men get passes for cheating on their significant others?
Do I feel like they get passes?
Yeah, I mean.
Hell no.
no no no like maybe you're in a position where you got a lot of money and you take care of somebody
but you don't get I ain't you don't get no passes because like when you go through it you still
go through it yeah like you just want to go through it with your partner you know you're going
through it you know guys that that have cheated with a lot of money they you know I've been in the
NBA locker room I've been around athletes and entertainers and a lot of us go through it and we hear
and it ain't like, oh, you cheated and got away, got away with it.
No, when you get caught like that, it's hell at home.
And that's the last place you want hell to be
because you got in the world dealing with hell already.
And then you've got to come home.
So, you know, I'll just, you know, like I tell guys,
just think twice what you're doing.
And I know it's hard.
And, you know, you got all the money in the world to do whatever you want.
And then all these women are coming at you scratching and clawing
and showing up at the hotel lobby.
knowing your little where you go jogging at
knowing where gym you go to
it's just like man you just start seeing stuff
you ain't used to no more
and it get difficult
especially a person with power
when you know you can do some things
that a lot of people can't
and so but I don't think men should get passes
because then like why be with that lady
yeah for sure
you know now I mean you guys are
say y'all work through it
but it ain't like a pass is like
it didn't happen.
Like, all right,
because most relationships,
you're going to go through it.
You're going to be arguing.
Now she's going to be rolling over.
Now you ain't getting no sex.
Now you ain't getting that normal hug
when you come home after a long day.
Now you ain't getting no food on the table.
There's a lot of things that's like, damn.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's the consequences that come with it.
And in both ways, you know.
And I don't encourage breaking up.
It depends on, you know, what happens and stuff.
But like, we all go through some type of deal.
and but there is no passes.
I don't think powerful men should get passes for cheating, no.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
You're going to go through it.
I feel like it's obviously more difficult for men of a certain stature
because they have women throwing themselves at them 24-7,
but I didn't see it all.
I see the brokest man of the broke cheat like a dog.
So I don't know.
I feel like all men have that temptation.
And, you know, I don't know if it's just like men have to mature
and get older to get past that
or if they just have to have the discipline.
You know what I mean?
Because men could be super disciplined
in every aspect of their life
and then be cheating
and it just lacks discipline in my mind.
But speaking of that,
Blueface asks DDG if he checks his girl's phone
and he was like, no.
And Blueface was like, you're tripping.
I do phone checks with my girlfriend.
With his girlfriend.
He's like, I will have to do like weekly phone checks
or something with her.
Like let me see your phone randomly.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And so she'll be like, okay, so what are your thoughts on that?
I mean, everybody got their own laws in their country, in a city, in their tribe.
This is his, you know, this is his thing.
He got his laws.
I can't tell a man in his relationship on how to run the culture.
That's his culture he's creating.
Do you think that?
If it's going to make him feel good and comfortable with her,
and you're going to want to do more for her,
then so be it.
My brother, you know, I think it's kind of like, you know,
like saying you don't trust her when you're doing that.
But, you know, it makes him feel good.
But you got to understand, girls always be on that.
Girls won't, women, most women,
will check their man phone without asking.
Y'all just want to sneak and do it all the time.
Like, that's women.
They're going to do that weekly.
You know, at least he's saying, look, I'm going to do this.
And this is what it's going to be.
Run that, run that real quick while we're sitting here.
I saw a girl say that she looks at her man's phone to look at the fingerprints to see what his password was.
How you can do that?
Because, like, you, I guess, see the fingerprints of what he presses all the time to get into his phone.
So she said she did this thing when they first started dating to check to see what his password was.
That's the obolical.
This is crazy.
And for me, personally, and I stand on this, no matter what anyone says,
I'm not going through that man's phone
because I'm not going to make myself sick like that.
I don't want to see stuff because even, let me say this,
even if the man is not cheating,
the man has women that might be like texting them
and he might ignore it,
but you might have to see like some picture of a girl that's blowing you
and now like that's going to be in your head.
I don't want to have that stuff in my head.
Like I don't want to see no girl that you was messing with.
Like women, we don't like that because then as a woman,
you start to think like, well, is that what he likes?
Like, I'm confused.
like I just talked to a girl who said she went through a man's phone
and she saw pictures of like a girl who was brown skin and skinny
and she's light skin with a big booty curvy.
So now she's feeling crazy like what does he even like?
You know what I mean?
And as a woman like men can just like anything.
And I have learned that about a man.
But as a woman like you, that can start feeding into like, well damn.
Like does he not like me?
Does he like a brown skin skinny girl?
Does he like this type?
Like to see that blows you and it makes you feel.
crazy. So it doesn't even have to be about cheating. To me, it's just about like, I don't want to
see certain stuff that might be in a man's phone. That's going to blow me and it's going to
stress me out. And then the whole thing about a man checking a woman's phone weekly, that's
fine. But if I have to always comfort you by showing you something, then we don't have real
trust. It's easy to trust someone when you're trying to control their every move. But if like,
where's the trust when we don't have that? Where's the trust when someone tells you something
and you have to blindly be like, nah, I know my girl, it ain't on that. Like,
Like, where is that?
Well, the trust is earned, not giving.
Right.
This is her earning her trust.
But no, but also, too, if you're checking someone's phone all the time and she knows that,
she ain't going to have nothing in there anyways.
Because she's going to know, this is our thing.
You're going to check my phone all the time, so I'm going to be not having nothing in my phone.
No, you're not slick, because y'all will be going to these other little apps.
What apps do they have?
I heard a whole thing where they do the notes app now and they share a notes app because you can share a notes app.
Like, that's diabolical.
If you're doing all of that, just be single, please.
If you have to go through all of that, be single.
That's too much, like, to want to cheat that bad.
What if it's creating balance with your life?
What you mean?
Like, this person's making up for what this was not giving.
That's something wrong with you then.
It ain't about that.
Why do you have to be fed so much in order to feel full?
Like, that's stupid to me.
Wait, wait, why do you have to be fed so?
Yeah, yeah.
Because when you're hungry, you eat.
Yeah, but the point is, is why not?
decide you're not off like if it's conversations that you had with your partner 80% the main 20
right but let me tell you what ends up happening you end up losing that 80% and you realize that 20 is
not shit without that 80 and now you hate that 20 and you be like damn I'm stuck with 20% of
nothing because I wanted 20 extra percent of one 20% of what something got to go groom the 20%
it ain't going to happen you can't groom a 20% into 80s you can because you only give a 20% of your
time. Think about this. If I teach a kid how to play basketball two days
out of the week, I mean, he'll get a little better. You're talking
about a child. These are grown-ass women. This is just the theory.
This is just the basic, just things, how they progress.
Like, things get better the more you work on it. Okay.
I feel. So you feel like it's... I'm trying to...
Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Like, I can't even... I forgot my point now.
Oh, I thought you were done.
How am I still talking? Okay, go.
You jump in.
I forgot my point now, so, you know.
Your point was you can groom a 20% into an 80%.
So do you feel like in a relationship,
you should have a 20% because you need that?
Because no one's ever going to be able to give you 100% of everything you need.
No, I don't think you should go looking for a 20%.
But if it comes to you, it's cool.
I'm just saying for guys out there who have that,
that's what we've been talking about.
Like, hey, he got this app where he talks to this other girl
and, you know, but I was like, it ain't a full deal
because you're with somebody.
You just, you know what some men be like, though?
You know what some men be doing,
they'll have a whole relationship
and just be talking to other females
just to talk to them, just like seeing
if he could just get at her and then talk to her
and then don't even talk to her no more.
Okay.
Guys be just trying to, that's what dudes be doing.
Like, I just want to see if I can holler.
It's for your ego.
Yeah.
Men have big egos.
So is that cheating?
Yes, it is, because you wouldn't want your girl.
You never connected with her, but you talked to her like a couple times.
Then you just like blocked her.
Yeah, it is.
You want to know why because another woman could be like, your man was on me.
Here's the text.
You look stupid.
I'm not going to look stupid and be disrespected.
Like, nothing is worse.
And this goes for men and woman than knowing you have somebody that's just loose and thirsty.
Like, I don't want a man that's talking to everybody.
Like, I want exclusivity.
I want a man to be like, he's untouchable, baby.
Ain't nobody messing with him.
Like no one wants that about their women either
Like, oh, she was just flirting with men
And then she blocked them
So she could feel like she still got it
Baby I know I got it
I don't need to try that
I don't need to do nothing
I walk outside every day
And I know I got it
Period of it
You know what I'm saying
I ain't gotta talk to nobody to know that
Like period point blank
And that's how a man should feel too
Like all this ego stroking
Most men cheat
Because they want their ego stroked
Because at home they're like feeling down bad
I just like just their ego stroke
You said most men cheat because they want their egro stroke.
Nah, girl, they most men cheat because they want something else strokes.
They want something else.
You can't see the ego.
You can see this, though.
I'm crying.
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So today the question is, since it's the holiday season, I have to ask.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I'm too young for that.
That's some older people stuff.
So what are five things you're looking more for in 2020s?
So like more rest, more traveling.
more money, more sex.
Definitely looking to travel a lot more.
Okay.
That's always a must.
Looking to expand on my multimedia career, looking to do more.
Love that.
But number three, I'm looking to, oh, man, play more basketball.
I've been playing two or three times a week.
I'm probably going to start playing more sports.
Not just basketball, but I'm going to do, like, tennis now, along with basketball,
and I'm going to rev up my golf game.
So I'm going to do more, like, active things in different sports.
For more concerts, I love a good old-school concert.
I want to see, you know, some of my generation concerts, you know, Maya, Brandy, you know,
Usher and all, they want to continue to support them.
And five, you know, just be more in tune with God.
You know, those are my five things.
I want to go into 2026 and, you know, do it that way.
I love that.
Okay.
I would probably say for me, more snatched, more hell.
What's snatch me?
What is that here?
Getting more snatched, Eddie, okay?
Click it with a clocket, clock it.
Okay, more snatched.
more into just being more healthy, working out more, like training more and like really just
going hard because I feel like I've lost weight, I've done these things, but I just want to
take it to the next level. I feel I feel like improvement is just like always in the spectrum
of the things I want to do. Like I always want to be better, you know? So like more improvement
on my overall physicality, more improvement on my spirituality, just being more locked in with
God and just maybe
even like hitting church a little more
that's one that's one you're saying more than
one so I'm saying one is snatched
this is this is the second
one more in tune with my spirituality
and the things that I'm doing
yes
and then I thought you because you were going on
you'd say okay one too
okay one two yes
more spirituality more in tune with God
and all that other stuff
with the word and everything
I'm always going to hit like I think
more like time with family and just spending more time with my mom, my dad, and just like really
locking in with them more. That's really important to me. More times, more like fun memories
with people that I love. I think that's really important. Just like, you know, tapping in.
And then obviously like more with my career and the things that I want to do and just like
tapping into the trajectory of like where I see myself going and how I get there.
is just by, you know, making more moves to doing more for me
and going in the right direction, more truth after dark and all of that.
All right.
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That's a fact.
That's a fact. That's a fact. I agree with that. But I also feel like, too, man will be at home and they'll feel down bad about like they didn't mess up the whole relationship with the woman is off of you. And so they're like, let me just go feel something else now. But it's like that's crazy to me because it's like you created distrust and ruin the relationship. And now I have to suffer more because you don't feel good in this relationship. And you're not willing to just be disciplined, put in the work and let us get back right. So then it creates a bigger hole and a bigger gap. And then that's why the
relationship usually ends because it's like a man is pissed a man over time is like okay you still
have me in the dark house like get over it so now i'm about to go do x y d because you're already mad
then she finds out more yeah and then now the relationship is over and that's a man's cycle that's a
cycle for show and it's a woman's cycle too to where it's like you get so disappointed by the man
that you lose respect for him because you're sloppy you're loose and you lack discipline so how can
I respect you to lead me as a man.
Like, you can't even be disciplined enough to say no.
So it blows me.
You know when most men cheat, most men cheat during a woman's pregnancy.
That's sad.
Like, the first year.
Yeah, that's super hurtful.
Yeah, that is.
Like, I just changed my entire body.
You know so crazy before you go?
Go.
Because I'll always, I'll be on Yahoo a lot and I'll be seeing a couple,
was like, yeah, what's the day?
They're divorced with a six-month-year-old.
Yeah.
Like, you see that all the time.
Why they was pregnant, divorce or a breakup.
Like, I always read that.
Like, damn, she's seven months pregnant.
Damn, she got a one-year-old.
Damn, she.
And the break-ups be happening because I'm telling you,
the relationship be changing.
Everything changed.
What's so sad is, like, you say that a lot,
and I feel like for me, I've realized that that has discouraged me
for years of like wanting to have a kid with a man like literally because I always think about that
and I'm like you know what like I'll be damned if I'm changing my body I'm feeling low about myself
because I have this baby that I'm caring for us in my body I have the baby now everything is different
for me like my whole life is different my body is different I'm feeling low self-esteem and then
you have a man who's cheating with a woman who probably is in shape looks better than you
because she didn't just carry a baby.
You know how depressed you will be?
Like, I'm so scared of that as a woman that is just like, no.
Like, I have to trust this man and love this man that at my lowest,
he won't do that to me.
Us as men, we psychologically damage women.
Hard.
Hard.
Real bad.
Yeah, I'm just listening to everything you're saying, like, psychologically.
Just, that's why women crazy.
No, I think that women are crazy because we are hormonal because we have to have,
we have to bear children.
So we have our period.
And on our period, you will never understand.
As a kid, I didn't realize that a period really, like, makes you crazy because men will downplay it.
Like, oh, you're PMSing.
They just want to make that as an excuse.
And when you're older and you look at the scientific research that backs it and you feel it as a woman, you realize, like, that's not a joke.
Like, PMS, you're emotional, you're crying, you're going through it.
Then after it, you're ovulating, you feel cool.
Like, you only have, like, you go through so many different emotions and feelings as a woman, period.
And then put on top of that a man who's psychologically breaking you by wanting, like by you giving him a child being pregnant, bearing the child, having to be a mother, getting your titty sucked on.
Now they're saggy.
Now you're cheating with a girl with perking titty's in a perfect body.
And I'm sitting here like, damn, I just gave this man a baby and I'm depressed.
Like, you know, women go through that.
And I'm just, it's sad for real.
Yeah, that really is.
So anyways, speaking of that, Kaisanah opened up about his mental health.
And he just, like, did a video on Instagram talking about, like, how, you know, his mental health struggles at times and he goes through so much.
And people were clowning him.
And he now came out and says, I understand why people don't get vulnerable on social media or in front of a large group of people because when you do, people are going to clown you.
As a man, for sure.
Yeah, people are going to clown you.
especially a black man.
People are going to clown you
and make you feel like
you're stupid for showing emotion.
Do you agree with that?
Absolutely.
That happens all the time.
That's why us men don't show the emotion
because we're close to be looked at as strong
and, you know, you're not supposed to be crying
and you're not supposed to be weak
and things of that.
And then they look at a guy like Hansenai
who has the world in his hand
who, you know, who's done,
so much, made a lot of money, become so famous around the world and doing these things,
and they're looking like people are like, he can't even express itself in the way to where
it's like, that could be depressing.
Like, you know, his world is like closing in on them, you know, and that could be depressing
and people will never understand that, but all they're looking at is, oh, yeah, he's a man
and he's making up so much money and, you know, that's like, you got to understand, like,
people ain't, like, sometimes fame ain't for everybody.
Yeah, it's hard.
Like, it's hard to be famous.
Yeah.
You know, and...
And it could be lonely.
Absolutely.
You lose so much being famous, rich and famous.
You lose friends.
You lose family members.
You lose a lot.
And all for the price of, like, you making some dollars.
That's why they say money is the root of all evil.
Yeah, for sure.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, most people who make a lot of money, been through depression, been through some shit,
go through some shit.
And everybody who ain't in that position, oh, you do.
doing this and why you and it's always going to be that so now as a black man
when you start to show vulnerability it's frowned upon especially a rich black man yeah
it's frowned upon it's laughed at it's ridiculed it's like come on bro you know i got i'm human too
i got feelings too yeah i've made all the money in the world yeah i live in this dope
ass house and try this dope-ass car and i got this fly-ass female or i go all these places but so
that don't bring happiness
at the end of the day.
It doesn't.
You can do all these things
and still be poor inside.
You know what I'm saying?
People don't understand that.
And, you know, I applaud him
for opening up and, you know,
telling his truth.
And, you know, and I applaud,
I say to all people
in mostly maybe black rich men
who go through things
who are scared to shed a tear
and scared to express
their self, man, hey, if you need that
release, you got to do what you got to do.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, hats off to him.
Much love to all his success
because sometimes, you know, success is
weight-bearing when you have the weight of the world
on your shoulders.
Yeah, 100%.
And I want to say this really quickly
because people say that you are biased
towards, like, rich men
and you don't speak for the average man a lot.
And I feel like, I don't think that's true about you,
but you just said for black rich man,
but it is for all men, black men.
They do go through a lot,
and they're not able to express emotion
because they were raised that way.
A lot of black men were raised by strong, independent women
who are, like, tough enough.
And the guy figures that were in their life,
they had to be like, yo, stop crying, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
So I don't want to just emphasize rich men.
I feel like all men go through that,
especially black men is because people look at rich men like they think they have
everything yeah i get that and they look at it says why are you complaining yeah you have this
you're you're rich you don't have to worry about what your next meal come from you don't have to
work so people look at that that's true and say that about you know i get that
who have a lot of money so that's why i emphasize you know guys in cost and eyes
it's a position yeah because people feel like you're not supposed to have anything
you have the world in your hand when that's not like we deal with real life issues yeah that's
true so just like everybody else maybe uh you know i'm not in the same position as this person
who's looking for their next meal the next day or what clothes they're going to wear or well that's a
different type of struggle yeah you know what i'm saying and i applaud people who get through those
times and are strong enough to work through it and sacrifice and do what they need to do
to get to the next level.
So, I mean, it's, you understand.
Mental health thrives no matter who you are.
Like, nothing heals mental health.
Yeah.
It's, you know, it's something, it's really,
there's true mental health,
and then there's mental health that's brought to you.
True mental health is people with really mental health diseases,
like schizophrenia.
Yeah.
Like, you know, like, you know, there's just a different mental, like, for real.
And then there's other mental health that's, you really have control over, truthfully.
Do you think that you have control over depression?
I think you do have control over it.
Okay.
I really do.
I really believe mentally we all have the power to have control over our mental.
I don't know if it's a, I don't even call it a disability.
I call it just, just mental health.
I think we on the most part have control over our mental health.
You can wake up and choose.
Like, am I going to be sad about not having this or doing this?
Or am I going to wake up and be positive?
That's right there.
That's right there in your head.
It's right there.
I don't care what nobody say.
Like depression, people take pills and do all this.
You don't need them pills.
You don't need, though.
It's right here.
It's you.
Sometimes you just, maybe you need a push.
Maybe you need some family around you.
or you need some friends to pump you up.
But that's you because the power of friends and family
and positive reinforcement can go a long way.
If you around that positive,
most people who are in depression are around depression.
I'm telling you.
Most of the people who are depressed are around depression.
If you get yourself around some positive people,
it will snap you right out of it.
I'm telling you.
Okay.
Well, moving.
on from that um the game has been going on his uh podcast story he's been talking on a lot of
podcasts and one thing that's been pretty viral because he went on janin sharp and said it
and then he doubled down on back on fig and said it again but he basically said that if you if he's
committed to a girl and he's taken care of her that 5k a month is not a lot to pay a girl
and she will fall behind and grow broke especially in los angeles considering rent
Bills, car note, and she won't have any more money moving around.
Because he said, basically, if you're in L.A., your rent is at least two something,
and then you have a car note, and then you have your other little bills.
That's 5K right there, and then she doesn't have anything left.
So, you know, Terrell, I'm back on Fig, was like,
so you think that, blah, blah, blah.
He was like, no, I'm doubling down on that.
Like, if I'm committed to a girl and I'm taking care of it, that's not enough.
So that's been going super viral everywhere.
Yeah, he's just saying, like, if you really think about it,
a woman's going to be stressed out because all she can do is pay her bills and then she
don't have nothing left to do nothing else what are your thoughts well I'm just trying to
figure out what was she doing before him I don't know stress super stressed I guess he was stressed
out over the five like I don't know if he was saying like he told her like he wants to take care
of her type of thing because that's how it was looking he was like if I'm serious about a
girl and I'm like I want to take care of you I think he's saying like to have the luxury to do
the things with me that I want you to do like I can go here I could travel here if you have a job
you're not going to be able to do all this and be around me all the time how I want you to I mean
that's his program but I think the one thing that he shouldn't do he shouldn't leave with money
like he shouldn't leave with that like if he's into a situation and it comes to that okay cool
but like you know him going on the podcast now and kind of preaching that the girls is listening
I know they are on him now.
I said, I know he got women knocking down his door.
You know, girls is DMing him like, shit, I'm, that's enough for me.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, but you can't go into it like that.
You know, you got to feel a girl out.
You got to date him.
But I think he's talking about a woman he's really with.
He was saying that.
He was like a woman I'm committed to.
I'm taking serious.
She's my girl.
Maybe going to be my wife.
That's what he's saying.
He's not saying just like I'm dating a girl.
He said,
A woman I'm really serious about that I want to be around me and be with me everywhere.
I can't, like, that's not.
I think if you're a man in that position, I don't see nothing wrong with that.
Okay.
I mean, you know, like, what if he dating somebody and they got a job?
And he's like, man, I want to see you a little more.
Yeah.
I want to go to, you know, to wherever.
I want to take you to an island somewhere.
But you got to work on Saturdays and you got to do all this.
He's like, you know what, don't do that.
Just, you know, you're going to mess with me.
I'll take care of you.
I get that.
I think that's more what he was saying.
Yeah, I think that is, yeah, because you know what I'm saying.
His lifestyle is to where he can do stuff.
Yeah, that's what he's saying.
You know, and then he would a girl that got to go to Mickey D's from 9 to 5 or whatever.
I'm just, for example, 9 to 5, whatever job it is.
Yeah, you got to work Monday through Friday 9 to 5.
Yeah.
And he's like, man, I don't even, like, you're too tired to go out with me now.
Yeah.
Like, it's Monday night.
I want you to come on me, and she's like, I'm tired.
I got work in the morning.
I got work in the morning. I'm going to be up at six.
And he's like, you know what?
I like you a lot.
You, my girl.
I want to be with you like, no, we ain't going to do that.
We about to go to New York.
We about to, you know, to different places.
Yeah.
You know, we ain't doing all, no, if I'm serious about you.
That's what he was saying.
Yeah, that's what I get that.
That's what he was saying.
I get that.
Everybody going to hate on it.
But like, I get what he's saying.
And people who are going to hate on it don't understand that.
Yeah, because if you have a certain lifestyle and your girl's like,
I work nine to five.
and you're like, no, we're going to New York next me.
We're going to here.
For him, he's like, I want my girl with me.
So if I can't have you with me, then, you know, like, what's the point?
Because you can't, a certain lifestyle and a man of that stature who has it and can do that,
he's like, I'll do it for you.
Might need money to watch her kid, like, all right.
Yeah, exactly.
For the babysitter and all of that, right.
Right, right, right.
So that's what he's saying.
Of course, like women love it down.
Some men who don't have it or hating money.
You know what I mean?
like what like I can barely afford my rent you know but it's like it's for a certain
lifestyle when men like that speak not everyone can do that he's saying this is what I will do
and I'm aware of 5k and enough I got to give her this then she needs this that that hair and all
that stuff but he has the money so if a man doesn't have the money then obviously is that's not
a conversation for you right like that's what I'm saying that's not a conversation for you
if you can't afford that and that's okay it doesn't mean it's the right
right way, but it's what works for him, you know, a man of his stature, but I'm sure his
DMs is blowing up right now. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got
I can work with that. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, anyways, Tyrese actually went on a podcast as well
recently. I think it's Bishop T.D. Jakes, right? T.D. Jakes, yeah, yeah. So he's been having a lot
a good guest on his podcast, but
basically Tyrese said
that all women and men
have a checklist, meaning of course
women are like, I want a guy who's six feet,
six feet, or looks
a certain way or does something
for their career, and men too. Men are like, I want
a woman that has a big butt. She can't have
a flat butt or she has this or she has that.
You know, whatever men feel is
visually. But that's what he was saying, so
let me just finish what he was saying, and then you can
say your opinion, but he was saying that, you know,
he would have checklists for everything that he wanted in a woman.
And, like, you know, his ex-wife was like, light skin, curvy, like, you know, whatever that look or whatever the case is.
And he's saying, like, his current girl didn't meet a lot of those things visually.
Like, there's a lot of things that weren't the same.
First of all, I would be so annoyed if my man went on any podcast say that.
But anyway, the point is, he's losing it.
Like, excuse me, sir.
but anyways he said that there was a lot of things that weren't checked off on his list
and he said that his list was wrong like his checklist was wrong because he's been with this
woman for five plus years and it lasts longer than his marriage and any other relationships
he's been in and it's a better relationship than any of his past relationships
so he's saying that sometimes the checklist is not who God sent you right it just looks good
on paper how do you feel about that well
It sounds like his checklist was filled with a lot of artificial.
Yeah, I can imagine.
I see that.
Like outer looking, like more of a visual type of checklist.
But when you start working to the core of what a man really needs from a checklist
and you don't realize it at first, it looks all good.
Like it's like window shopping.
You walk past.
It's all glitter and glitz and shiny and it looks good.
And then you bring it home and it ain't.
what you thought it was.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You was like, damn, when I was looking at it in the window, it was this and that.
But, like, it don't really do.
Like, I'll tell you this.
Like, I remember I first bought, I bought a Bentley.
I bought the Mousane, right?
It's, man, I'm talking about that car.
It was dope as hell on the outside.
Man, when I tell you, I did not like that car at all.
I was, like, my worst car.
It was, like, expensive.
It would look good.
But then when I got into it, the radio wasn't loud enough.
The sunroof didn't.
Then to come all the way back and just went up.
I was like, man, this car is weak.
So it ain't always about what you see on the outside and the glitz and glamour.
It's about, you know, you got to sit in that car and see what it do, really.
Because the inside don't really tell you the most about a person.
I think he, once he revamped his list, and it was like, you know, I got to revamp my list.
You know, I need a woman.
You know, I don't care about the long hair, big booty, this height of it.
I need her heart at.
What's her, you know, what's her, you know, what's her, you know, what's her,
relationship with God. When you start looking at like
the core of a person, you start
seeing different things. And then you've realized
that those list was off
all along. But as most men, most
of our lists are off for the most
part. Our list be, man,
it'd be full of bullshit. And then we look
like, because we're trying to impress the next
man. We're trying to be looking
like, man.
We're trying to impress other men is wild.
Like we're trying to impress
like just not even the next man
but like it's like your woman.
when you visually out with her
you know guys be with a woman hold on
and be looking at seeing who looking
like and it's just like a flex
but like they don't know like when I go home
it's argument it's
they ain't really cracking like what you see
right I still believe though men
should still be visually attracted to their woman
because I don't care what no one says
men are visual and I feel like
if you are not visually attracted
to your woman you
are going to cheat on her.
I just really do believe that.
Like, you cannot just be like,
I'm not attracted to her at all.
That's crazy.
Like, not being attracted to someone.
Even me, as a woman.
Attraction ain't always visual.
No, it isn't.
But what I'm saying is...
Attraction, because I'd have been around female to like, damn,
damn, she is beautiful.
Like, just sitting there talking to her, like, damn.
Right, from an inner thing.
But she was just dog unattractive.
Like, she was just...
Unattractive is not a look to me.
Okay.
I got you.
But I just don't.
It ain't always a look because you, you like,
because I've seen some bad ass females look terrible.
Yeah, I've seen that too.
So I get what I'm saying.
Like, you are terrible.
Like, ugh.
Like, when I look at you,
I have that too.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
So like, come on, it ain't about.
I get into what you're saying.
When I look across the room, okay,
when I look across the room,
but when you start getting to the essence of somebody,
that's a different look.
I agree with that.
I can agree with that 100%,
which goes into a conversation
that's been started on social media that says men
when they're looking for like long-term relationships
or their wives,
they prioritize a woman's facial aesthetics,
like their face versus when they focus on a woman's body and shape,
they're looking for short-term relationships.
Do you think that's true?
Wait, say that again, looking at their face, bone structure.
So not...
Like, what?
They didn't say nothing about bone structure.
They said, oh, crying.
They said that.
There's a conversation in a debate on social media
that says that men prioritize like a woman's face,
like how she looks facially, like in her face
when he's thinking about a long-term relationship
versus short-term, they're more focused on a woman's body.
Okay, so this was a poll.
Yeah, this is like a debate online
that a lot of people are talking about.
Like what race a man?
I don't know the races.
See, I think when they start doing these polls,
you got to go across the most influential, like, races.
Like, you got to go.
black you got to ask a group of blacks
you got to ask the blacks
the blacks you got to ask
not the blacks the colors
this is crazy
you go black white
you go Chinese
and then we got to do one more
you do like
you got to ask the Mexicans
let's do a poll across those four races
like I feel like some of these polls
be done by one race
well what is your question
what is the answer would you rather date a woman
with zero body, but a beautiful face
or an ugly face with a banging body.
Which one?
Ugly face with a bang.
For real?
Yeah, of course.
What do you mean?
That's easy call.
Long term?
Look, the blacks is going to have 100%.
They go.
No, because you know what's crazy
is when we had the thing about
a man don't want to work all day
and come home to a flat butt
and you were like, no, bed a butt.
That everyone was going crazy.
They were like, no, I don't give a damn.
You got to have a butt.
I'm not dealing with it.
And that's fucked up.
I think at the end of the day, zero body, but a beautiful face.
I don't know.
That's crazy.
Or an ugly face.
So you just wake up, turn around ugly face because you're not always going to see the body.
Y'all good with that makeup, though.
No, but you have to wake up to this person on a long term.
We're going to get that makeup going.
So makeup in the bed?
It's dark.
It's going to be dark.
It's not going to blow you, wake it up in the morning, turning around seeing this face.
No, I ain't going to be rubbing on something, though.
So I'm going to be feeling cool.
This is crazy.
I can't believe this.
Come on there, I'll be like, shoot, I ain't tripping.
That's more on me.
Men are crazy to me.
I don't know what.
No, that's going on.
The black community, I know that.
The black community for sure taking the body over the face.
But that's still crazy to me.
That's why we got to have even doubt.
We got to, you know, the poll got to be like, well, let's see who, what the pole, what's
the ages of the men, what's the race?
You can't be just doing these polls.
They can't get credibility like that.
Okay.
question you we're going to do a few quick little questions before we wrap it up all right
the three little scenarios okay you meet your partner's family for the first time and you realize
you once dated their cousin nobody mentions it mentions it do you like you over there for
the holidays and the cousin is over there and you're like oh my god but she don't say anything
and you don't say nothing but it's blowing you because you
So I see the cousin, I'm like, oh, this is your cousin.
And the cousin comes up to you like, hi, I'm Keisha.
And you're like, hey, Keisha, I'm Paul.
Are you going to tell your girl like, ooh, I dated her before?
I think I am going to break up.
I don't like that.
So what if y'all are in like a two-year relationship?
I'm like, man, you know what?
That's crazy to break up two-year committed relationship and that happens.
No, I got a tell her.
You got a tell her.
I've been with somebody two years, and that's your cousin.
You got to tell her.
You got to tell her.
Y'all got to go get some drinks and be like, hey, I got to take something real quick.
Not the drinks.
Now, if it was the opposite and you've been with someone two years,
you're really serious about this person, y'all live together, whatever.
And you go, you know, y'all go to the family's house, and she's like, oh, my God.
And then she tells you, like, look, I dated him for a minute.
We had a little situation.
What are you doing?
Like it wasn't nothing serious, but we hooked up.
We vied for a minute, but nothing really happened as far as us getting serious.
And me and the girl are serious.
You and the girl are living together serious in love, buda.
What's you doing?
I'm going to keep it proving.
I'm going to be cool.
All right.
I'm going to be cool.
Are you going to say anything to the cousin?
If he don't say nothing about it.
Well, we came into the family function.
and she saw him
and once she saw him
she was like oh that's your cousin
and then she tell me
he didn't know
what do you mean he doesn't know
well he just noticed it
they just both noticed it
that night at the function
yeah but I'm saying
are you going to say something after
what if he just still don't say nothing
she don't know that she told you
I ain't going to say nothing
then I'm going to wait like a week
see if he say something
and what if he doesn't
are you going to say something
or you just let it go
you ain't going to tell me though
he was like you know what man
you can be like man you can be like man
I know y'all had a good thing going.
I didn't want to, like, you know, say none, though.
I like y'all together.
You know, me and I do that.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, either way, I'm not even tripping.
Okay.
So your best friend shows you that she, he has an old DM from your partner, right?
So, like, your girl and him DM'd a year ago before you started dating.
A year before you ever started dating.
Yeah.
They have an old DM together.
Okay.
What are you doing?
That ain't nothing.
You're gonna be tripping up of that.
What if like, okay.
Oh, DM, that's a message.
That ain't nothing.
You know that, that has happened to me
where I was with somebody in a relationship
and then one of my sisters was like,
oh, he tried to talk to me in 2010
and showed me like a tweet
and I'm like, all right, like you're my sister.
We look alike and now me and I'm gonna.
Y'all never did nothing.
You blew it, girl.
Yeah, like, what, what?
What? Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, why are you even telling me to be messy?
Like, because if it's not nothing for real, then it's nothing.
Yeah, it's nothing, man.
Well, it's a DM, like.
That's petty.
Okay, so should long, this is my last question,
should long-term couples get a yearly free pass asleep with someone else?
Like, for instance, say you married when you've been, since you were like 20,
and now you guys been married in your 50.
You've been married for 30 years.
would you say
you get a free pass
yearly to prevent cheating
or do you think that would destroy
the relationship?
I think that's on the couple.
I don't think
just sneak and do it.
Don't have that free pass.
Just nah, just sneak and do it.
Just don't get caught.
I don't need to know.
I don't need to know.
I don't need to know.
I feel that.
You can do it.
I don't need to know.
Just go ahead and sneak and do it.
Just make sure I don't find out.
I ain't going to be looking, but don't.
Make sure I don't find out.
Sneak and do that.
If you need to do that, sneak and do it.
I can agree with that.
I'm not.
I don't want to know.
I can agree with that.
I'm like, oh, damn, that thing.
They're still leaking.
From him?
Ew.
That's crazy.
That's me a hard disrespectful.
What is this?
Okay.
It's still discharging.
Uh-uh.
Yeah.
Blow me.
That's out of course.
control. So you think that you rather
just the old-fashioned cheat. Let's go ahead
and old-fash. If that's what you need, if you're feeling like
that, go ahead and don't let me catch you.
I don't want to know that you're coming back from
getting took down.
Like, come on.
Like, was it good, honey? How was it?
How was it? It was crazy.
Did you, you know?
That is hilarious.
Yeah, I feel you on that. I don't want to know either.
I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.
Go ahead. Just sneak off.
So you don't think it's your
conversation like, babe, look, I'm not
happy. Let's divorce.
In our sex life anymore. What if it's just like
the man don't want to...
No, we're gone. I'm gone.
Once you say not happy... But you're 70 at this point.
I'm 70. I'm good still. The woman, she
cooked.
How are you not happy, girl? You're 70.
She's not 72.
How she was...
She's 60. She's hitting me.
Like, girl, stop playing. You've been cooked
for like 40 years.
That's crazy.
Like, girl, sit down. If you don't sit your butt down, girl.
70. Get that out of here.
Maybe a better age. Fifty-five.
I mean, you know, 55, you still kind of may be like, eh.
I think there's some people who are cracking on that 55.
Yeah, it is.
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stuff. We're safe. Yeah, we're so grateful for everybody who has been supporting Truth After
Dark for all of 2025. We started this podcast at the beginning of the year and it has grown
immensely. We're so thankful for all of the support, all of the love and all of the hate. And we
thank you so much for just really rocking with us. We have so much amazing good things coming
in the new year, great guests and just like more content altogether. Thanks for
joining us. We'll see y'all in 2026.
Peace.
Welcome to truth after dark.
Do you think that men or women are more toxic?
Who would you call if the unthinkable happened?
My sister was y'all 22 times.
A police officer, right?
But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue?
This dude is the devil. He hurt you.
This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law,
until we came together to take him down.
I said, you're going to see my face
till the day that you die.
Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable,
on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
I got you.
Have you ever listened to those true crime shows
and found yourself with more questions than answers?
Who catfishes a city?
Is it even safe to?
snort human remains? Is that the plot of Footloos?
I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that
celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless,
a true crime comedy podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him.
Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve.
until it was too late.
He was the head of this gang.
You're going to push that line for the cause?
Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it.
When Larry's killed, Game Must Untangle a Dangerous Past,
one that could destroy everything he thought he knew.
Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed Human.
