Club Shay Shay - Ray J Part 2

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

In the second part of Ray J's episode on Club Shay Shay, he delves further into his life and career, sharing a mix of personal anecdotes and professional insights. Ray J starts by discussing his attempts to replace Omarion in B2K and his admiration for Usher. He reflects on how he should have listened more to Pharrell and expresses a desire to work with him again in the future. When posed with the famous hypothetical question, Ray J opts for a business lunch with Jay-Z over $500K. He talks about the incredible success of Raycon, earning $80M a year for four years, and his involvement in TV networks, including a show featuring BlueFace and Chrisean Rock on his broadcast network. Ray J opens up about his relationship with 50 Cent and shares his views on why celebrities often date the same people.Ray J candidly discusses his complex personal relationships, including stealing his ex, Princess, from Floyd Mayweather and the ensuing conflict. He talks about his preference for older women and how one helped cleanse him during his teenage years. He also touches on his tumultuous marriage with Princess, expressing his intent to never date again but only "slay," and explains the recurring issues between them. Ray J recounts his initial meeting with Kim Kardashian when she was Brandy's closet designer, their subsequent relationship, and the infamous tape. He acknowledges the tape's profitability but also reflects on the embarrassment it caused, especially now that he has children. He discusses the success of the Kardashians and speculates on how different the world might be if the tape had never surfaced. His relationship with Kanye West comes up, highlighting a unique gift from Kanye—a Balenciaga straight jacket. Ray J mentions he no longer has anyone he wants to fight in a celebrity boxing match but is open to the idea of doing OnlyFans. He shares memories of attending parties at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion at just 16 years old. Finally, Ray J speaks on the legal troubles faced by his friends R. Kelly and Diddy, expressing the personal pain he felt as they went down. Join Shannon Sharpe and Ray J for an episode brimming with revelations, humor, and the candid truth behind Ray J's headline-making life. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So I'm like, well, what we doing, dog? This one, I was activated. Uh-oh. We, you know, so I can't replace Omarion. Like, you know, we started doing dance rehearsals and shit. I'm like, bro, like, I can't do this shit. It was like that. I'm like, look, bro,

where Omarion at? You know what I'm saying? But we tried to approach it, but they didn't understand it because I'm like, first things first, it can't be B2K no more. It gotta be Ray 2K. How do you wanna change the whole thing?

It's business. And so, that's, yeah, we about to have a fight because they was mad. I'm like, bro, Ray 2K. R2K is the as far as I can go with trying to like

make some adjustments and like compromise, R2K is all i could do how you that's like johnny gill coming in saying we can't change we've got to change new edition it's got to be j edition because here's the thing r2k me now we real it's right with the k on it we real to nick like we real right b2k was still like like boy boys to men yeah we grown-ass men let's keep it real and let's get 2k a piece every hour you feel me 2 000 a piece every hour every day Let's keep it real. So it was real $2,000 a day. That's why I came over art art 2k. There was a I think they're looking at you came over Ray 2k. I Had the papers I had me in the front. They was in the back. I'm saying yeah That's and so like I was way up there to you talking about here

Well here right? I Needed my space because I don't know how to dance like that. So they was dancing. So they going to be dancing while you be up front singing. With the pyros and shit going. It was a disaster. They hated it and kicked me out the group before I got in it. Yeah.

They kicked me out the group. Shout out to J Boog and Fizz and rasby for not allowing me to come in and help up the group yeah fuck up that group and hopefully they do positive things again another manifestation for me is for b2k to come back and have a great run i think b2k should open up for brandy and monica on the tour so you got b2k opening up then you got monica coming after b2k and then you got brandy headlining right are we good b2k yeah which they don't never open up for nobody b2k but in this situation i think it's good for business b2k monica comes after or if you want to throw somebody in between that, like RSVP?

Well, no, no, no. We would open up. Then B2K, then Monica, then Brandy, then Monica and Brandy together, then Pyros and Explosion. Is it possible that they can like, okay, say Monica and Brandy do a 50 city tour. Could it be like Monica open up 25 times i mean go first and then 25 times brandy go first because you know it's not gonna happen monica's not gonna agree to that you know that right okay okay all right no no no all. Yeah. 25, 25 and 25. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I do think so.

And are you putting this on? Is this your project? I would do. I would love for it to be. But if they do and you you're a witness, me and you right now. I've been I've been trying to work this out for a long time i've been taking a lot of slack monica been going in i've been apologizing because i'm just a fan saying shit out i'm just making shit up monica like because i'm a fan so yeah y'all going on tour you know what i'm saying like that's what i felt and so don't be mad at me because like i want it to happen if it does now from if their tour happens, do you think that they not not owe me? But where do I fit in at this tour actually happens like from here?

Where do you think that I like? Where should I be? I mean, you had a nice idea. But oh, you try. Oh, you try to get some paper. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're just because i'm with brandy anyway so i'm just hanging out yeah um and me just hanging out i'll find a

way to get it back there somehow i'll do get it back down the street before the show starts but my thing is where do you see me in that if this actually happens with me being like the only person like publicly pushing this and making it known so the fans could like reach out to them just open like introducing them at least yeah come out yeah yeah they let you do that that's a lot that's or maybe you maybe you introduce monica i mean uh brandy i would love for just to have before they come on a tronics commercial like yo the shows that i got on tronics then it goes and it's like tronics network like t-r-o-n-i-x network.com and then it goes boom and then they come and then i say that's i'm good with that i'm that's it i'm fine with that

no money just that big one and then like tron to on like you know the coats of what they wearing like like a patch all right something like that but you know what i'm saying yeah i get what you saying i mean i would like to see them on tour too but i don't i'm not i'm not i don't they don't owe me nothing no i was just talking between us like what you know what i'm saying when you were a kid okay r&b is your thing how close or maybe it wasn't close at all but you saw what usher was doing y'all around the same age i love usher's older usher's in the brand brandy world which is my year he wasn't in my class i think he was i was in seventh grade which i hated seventh grade kids stay in school um i think he would be on like the 10th or 9th or 10th

how do i feel yeah did you did you try to model did you see the success that he was having it's like okay maybe i'll model my game because like you know you know in sports you like i want to model my game after this guy because I you know Maybe your vocals are like here's are you just try you try to miss my lane, but she's laying My life had nightmares because Pharrell carved out myself and Pharrell what I would say Pharrell just Genuously, which is not a word, but I like it Genuously like genuine changing not a word, but I like it. Genuously. Like genuine. Genuinely.

Genuously. Trademarkers. Right. Pharrell had carved out this Ray J sound that he was working on. Out the Ghetto was the lead off. Right. When I didn't listen as Pharrell kept progressing, then he dropped the records with Usher. and as the as for World Cup progressing then he dropped the records with Usher don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't okay and then I was just in the bathtub and then I was in the shower and then I was on the gym and

then I was like running around and I was just like lost because we had it. You know what I'm saying? And so watching that, it was tough because Pharrell saw the vision for us two at the time. And he saw it for me. So it wasn't about us at the time. It was just about me and the mistakes that I made and the mistake I made with Pharrell at the time. And maybe Pharrell might see this. mistake I made with Pharrell at the time. And maybe Pharrell might see this.

Honestly, me being honest at this level and this honest about it, I don't even think he knew that I knew how big I didn't listen and how bad it was for me. And so I think hearing this,

and I know the nigga busy doing Louis Vuitton and shit, but you know i'm saying we might be able to get back in the lab the homie will bring a bunch of new bags and shit and all the shit you know i'm saying like all that shit we could do songs and shit go over designs maybe man but i i didn't i wasn't it wasn't us it It was just that I saw, like, Pharrell saw us going back and forth in that moment. And again, I take full responsibility for not listening. And that's what every artist should do. Right.

You can't blame, I would never, somebody else could never fuck up for me. I would be so mad. I definitely fucked up myself and as long as you take that responsibility and don't try to blame people for your your unsuccessful like career like stop doing that like you made the decision on whatever it was take it like a g make some adjustments and if you don't ever get back on find another hustle to get you a million and stop crying about it i was talking to myself back in the day is it true that you sold your donald sterling's apartment after those racist comments You guys don't know that.

It's impossible. It's impossible. You guys don't know that. You know that? I know what? guys don't know that. You know that? I know what? You don't know that. Look, my team, we do homework. Can I call you Shay Shay?

Yes. Okay, because I'm in. Is that a nickname? That's a nickname. Okay. And then club was just kind of like we're at clubs. Yeah, it started in Denver. You remember the movie Life?

When they're in prison, they talk about the boom boom room. Ray's. Yes, the boom boom room. So Club Shea Shea was a knockoff of the boom boom room. Oh, God. When we were in training camp, we played music, rolled dice, played spades, video games. Got it. We gambled, drank beer.

Got it. I shouldn't talk. shouldn't not smoking cigarettes in there too but yeah so that was the cigarette so that's how that's how club shea shea started so it was it was the boom boom that's dope that's dope so there was an actual club shea shea there was an actual like a private club membership on yeah wow that's dope maybe we do a raised boom room club shea shea we do the dice games on the Neutronics Network where they're not winning money, but you win at last. You play the dice up until the final one, then you win. It's like a

competition. Dice. All the hood games like Karems. Remember Karems? Get out of here. Karems. The board game where it's just a board and it's like checkers, but you're playing like pool. Oh, yeah.

No. You want to play Karems? I know what you're talking about, but I've never played it. I seem to realize there's something out there. Did you sell them apartments? I got rid of them. Huh? I did.

Now you wish you kept them, huh? No. So you were so offended by the comments that you're like i gotta get up off them it's bigger than that it's bigger than that um i want to i won't i i think it's oh i think it's actually okay to talk about it yo donut r, anybody from the team here? Hello? Clark. Tell Ross, call Ross, hit David Weintraub and see if it's okay to talk about the Donald Sterling issue now.

And give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Okay, we'll come back to that. This is a big one. It's probably the biggest one. Yeah. Oh. Okay, we'll come back to that. This is a big one. It's probably the biggest one. Yeah. You to ask me that is like do you have the other side of it

or no? I want to get your side. I got you here. But do you have the big side? No, I ain't got the big side. Get out of here. That's crazy. Okay. I want to pause but i want to give it okay do you want to come back to it oh yeah for sure we're going to come back to it yeah yeah for sure you also made headlines when jay there's like take a a business media lunch with with jay-z or 500 000 you said take the 500 000 jay no no i said no you say take the

business absolutely jay-z said take the 500k but jay-z told the world to take the 500k he wouldn't have told me to take the 500k because i have so much more to offer and i and i think sitting with jay-z and anybody of that caliber that that really have no idea idea what we're doing in our place in this industry outside of the music and entertainment, what we have to offer is massive. And whether it's finances, whether it's opportunities and relationships, there's nobody that can match what we can bring that is so unfamiliar to the other side. Because nobody's ever made money with us nobody's ever met my partners that are making money at this level so we will bring more to the table in that meeting just with the underestimation um of what we can do and what we've been doing uh would would just bring like super super big big like collaborations and big partnerships and

then even us just to invest in certain things that might need a little more capital like we would love to do that but here's the thing the average person is not going to have a team that's looking at the entrepreneurial side of it like you would come with your team so the average person say give me the 500k and i'm gonna do what i need to get done yeah to make that grow because unless you have a team like what you have or say myself yeah most people will take that 500 band i would take 5 million instead of meeting with jay because i can invest the five more i can't do nothing with 500k at this moment but i can do more with having a great relationship with jay-z right

okay you've been in rooms with a lot of people that have an enormous amount thumbs down okay okay i'll tell you offline it's a shocker it's a it's a big one okay i'm like ray donovan i like i like this i'm the ghetto version. And I'm a fucking great crisis manager. Yes. I specialize in crisis management. What have you learned from being in rooms and meetings and around people with high net worth? It's funny you say that because all of the people that I know with a lot of money don't do business with anybody that I might look up to in the industry. So I look at it in a very good way because it really fucking doesn't matter. Most of the people with a lot of money, it's not going to give you anything. Right.

There's a hedge fund or a business that are that is in the investment business of companies or whatever you need. That's one thing. But all my billionaire friends, they're super, super, super like, like yeah hell yeah um so you take their relationships and you learn from what they've done and you can utilize them and what you are doing maybe if you're going to invest something they can help you from their expertise but um uh yeah it's just interesting how there's lanes and lanes of all of these rich people and you can have your world and then there's this entertainment world right that i'm not in at all but the world that i have could really help move things through if need be if i could just take a couple meetings with

the right people right i'm not yearning to i don't care but whenever it does happen i would love to um show them what we can offer you know i'm saying what do you hope to accomplish with your new tv network and it was reported that you got a loan and you messed up over three million dollars no i didn't get a loan i've never got a loan from anything. I'm happy you said that about Shaq because before I remember Shaq investing in Sexy Cannon, I haven't taken any capital from anybody anywhere. So everything is like you're 100% bootstrapped at the highest level. Even with Raycon, we made $80 million a year for four years straight we made 40 before that eight before that we and just in in strategic and

Performance marketing it q1 we spent three or four million a month Q4 we're at 15 million a month November December. This is Raycon sold over three million earbuds And now you know you take that capital you you know you wish all your partners well because you love them and now that they're going into like home products and I'm going more into like dramatic television it's good for for us to not part ways but to share meaning let me get mine you guys can have yours I'm here you're there if you want to do all of these things my ideas won't clash and if I want to do all of these things your ideas won't clash so we all win

together right that's the most important thing but yeah i blew three million of my own money i blew seven million i'm not seven now i'm not happy about it i accidentally just blew a million five on accident i didn't know i did that are you accidentally below a million five you got that kind of bread ray jay let's go hold something you've been you know you've been seeing you know you club shea shea yeah but hey we ain't blow no million five we made that much no i did but i just but i literally just sold all my shares back to uh my partners at raycon and it's been a great experience that equity and that liquidity goes into the new company but all of it can't go because I can't like I'm I'm just keep I'm just going and going and going you

know eventually it has to it has to start to see some kind of turnaround for profit or I'm gonna have to go out and I'm gonna have to get an investor or two to come in and help because and you don't want that i think so for this project maybe um just because i have more money now in my account so i could spend it and i don't want to do that that's not the smartest thing to do especially when you're like almost 8 million in right you know what i mean but the shows that i have coming are phenomenal and they're unm, and it's going to turn everything around. You're thinking $8 million. You're thinking $80 million. You're thinking $100 million.

Those are just numbers to me. I don't want any money in my account. Anytime I make money, I make sure the kids get it. I always feed my kids' account. I always make sure my baby mama's good right whether we're up or down right she's always good um that's first priority and then the rest i gotta get rid of all of it and invest everything in in there nothing i don't want anything in my account are blue flacen kashon rock on your tv and your tv programming they they do they do have a

show it's called house of blue face um shout out to blue face and whack 100 um i was able to license six seasons of the show blue face did on only fans okay which is fucking loud man it's some of the best content nobody's seen and it's really doing well for the network. Subscribers are going crazy over it. But I do have that. But it's a licensed show. Six episodes. Well, seven. Five already seen. Two exclusive.

And we're giving our viewers and electronic subscribers all of the meat. How's that working with them? I love it. I love it. I love working with Wack. And I love working with Blueface. I haven't got a chance to work with krishan personally um hands-on we met a few times and she's great i mean in reality they are like um

the bonnie and clive of reality jocelyn would be like the beyonce okay tiffany pollard would be like the Beyonce. Okay. Tiffany Pollard would be like the Rihanna. Okay. And Ray J would be like the Frank Sinatra. Or the Shakespeare. Steven Spielberg. Really, Scott? Okay.

50, you have a relationship. How were you able to build a relationship with 50? Through Jackie Long. Jackie Long, who is one of the greatest actors of our time. He's a close friend of mine he is close with 50 so Jackie's my friend so he's he connected me with 50 but we were all good when we were all doing the money team shit but um after that kind of like broke up then Jackie long and 50 always had a good relationship.

So Jackie kept me kept me tied in, you know, whenever 50 needed any anything. He wanted to ask a question for me or whatever. Yeah, 50. You've been a celebrity for a long time. What is it with celebrities dating the same women? It's got to be like 20 million. Let's just say for the sake of argument, that's 8 million women of dating age.

Let's just say from the age of 19 to 55. Obviously, they're older. But I'm just saying i love this why why i love this interview this is fucking dope um like the like the fire isn't even hot anymore it's cool yeah it's cool you know it's like whatever you guys did it was my dyson fan in here too yeah oh it is yeah that's what's happening yeah you know what shout out to the team yeah they ran down the street got him a new fan shout out to the team like we matched it like we like i went out there y'all can hear it on the mic i want a dyson fan right now you know what i'm saying yeah wow now we got a black one yeah not not like no color lines right but now there's no segregation between the two they're

anything purchased on club shea shea set no doubt gets left behind i got it and you know what i'll watch this episode part two and it'll be like sponsored by a dyson right so fuck it right um Um, why is that, Ray J? Why is what? Why do celebrities date the same women? Why do women date the same celebrities is the question. Because, you know, women are the most special thing in the world um and depending on your your mission meaning like i want to have fun i want to get to know this girl i want to like work with her i want to be with her i want to marry her i love her i want to love her i want her to be my girl or i just want to be like shit if she want to hang out with me because she might have somebody she's looking at

but she just want to put me on her resume okay you know yabba dabba doo right in that world okay depends on what it is i think it's it's all about the choice of the celebrity and the girl but sometimes the girls are so beautiful one celebrity might might be like, yo, man, she's the greatest thing I've ever fucking had, but I don't have her no more. For the next guy, it's, ping, DM. I bet all the pretty women, their DMs must be crazy. With football players, basketball.

Basketball players and football players like to smash everybody's woman and that's why i don't like them because it's not okay it's like you guys have have shit at home but y'all motherfuckers in the gym so much niggas just ready to fuck and just so y'all like you know and you conquer the other girl and after you finish you're like yeah So she in love with you but you're done And so you know what I mean After a while she call her dude back That ain't cause you know what I'm saying That's cause y'all done been

Y'all done just said you good Basketball players Football players And soccer players from London Are all like you know what I'm saying Just too greedy. Y'all greedy. Y'all tall

niggas and buff niggas. Shit, man. Niggas leaving practice. Practice tomorrow so all day you just at the house eating good. You know what I'm saying? Watching your diet. You're going to do two a days, but you just two a days. You see what I'm saying? Watching you diet. You're going to do two a days, but you just

two a days. You see that girl. Like, girl at home, I love you. I love you. I don't like y'all basketball players and football players. I got a couple of friends, but that's it. What's up, Paul George? That's my nigga.

Not nobody else on the Clippers. Let me ask you a question, though. Let's just say you like this girl and you find out one of the homies talking to her. You back off or do you tell him, say, bro, you know, I was trying to holler at her

or I did this, I did that. How do you handle that situation? Well, I'm just now How do you handle that situation? Well, I'm just now back on the market. So I ain't been out here that long. I don't know what I would do now because I haven't been out there that long.

Plus, I still love Princess. But I don't give a fuck. I don't give a no. I don't give a no shit who she been with. But your boy hollering at her. My boy

or somebody I'm cordial to. Somebody you cordial to. I don't give a fuck. Just like they don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck even when you're together. Even when you're in love. They want to conquer.

They want to run around with that. Man, ain't nobody try to holler at princess while you were together. What? Not your wife, not your wife. Well, I don't go through her phone, so I don't know. But I'm sure. I'm almost sure. There's at least 45 motherfuckers out of 4.5 million savages.

But you okay? Because you met your wife through Floyd, right? Mm. So you remind me... Hold for sound. Hold for sound. Did I

meet Princess? I know that the situation was, was weird when we started to like each other. How was it weird? Well, it was weird because, like, I really liked her and she was still kind of like in a situation with PB. But at the end of the day... Who is PB? Floyd. Oh.

At the end of the day... Oh, so there was... Hold on, hold on, hold up. Time out. They were dating? I thought he hooked you up. I don't know. No, I hooked him up with Miss.

I hooked him up with the two girls that was supposed to be my love interests on For the Love, Ray J. The winners. Why would you do that? Because he was my friend. He said that's what it was like. It was like, okay, I was young. So I wasn't tripping. Like, if somebody want to be with somebody if they said no i don't want to

do it then okay but if they was like oh yeah i'm interested yeah line it up right because when we were younger being honest is the only way you win right so that we had that that that honesty you was the homie i'm the homie right so they you. Cool. If she like me and you in a relationship with your baby mama, you got your man girl, you got all this. And then you like Princess, too, but you ain't super locked in and we want to be locked in. Congratulate and celebrate with us. Just like I celebrated with like when you when you like somebody and they like you that I was liking, but they liked you more. So no problem. We all celebrated together.

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any issues and he doesn't either but um it's just our friendship is not there no more. Not that he gives a fuck. You think that has, you think princess love has, you think your wife, your mother, the mother of your kid, you think that has something to do with it? Well, then why would you do it? Because I loved her. But here's the thing. He didn't love her. You know what?

When a dude say, oh, man, yeah, go ahead, boy. You know they care. Why? I went, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. You my friend. So when I want to go ahead one time. He said a lot of times. If I want to go, if I want to, like, that's not fair.

We got to be fair friends. Just because you got more money and you're not used to certain things, you have to get used to it because somebody going to like me too. You understand. Somebody going to like me just like they like, you know, you. Yes. A girl might like, like, one of my homegirls, she's my homegirls, right? Right. But we fucking around. She like you know you yes a girl might like like one of my home girls she's my home girls right right but we we fucking around she's like you she's like man you know he really wearing that shirt you know i'm saying that watch club shea shea you know i'm saying i want him i want to i

want to be his baby or whatever right right and she's my home but i'm like you really feeling a homie i'm like well shit i see what's up if he fucking with you too i like her let's go out on a date done no matter it like no no she's my she's my home girl i know but she's not my girl i know but we're living in a world of of everybody being honest we're in this like space of honesty at this point right not a level of wife man like it's It's just a world, it's in a pool of love and honesty. I ain't been in that world yet. But you have. I haven't. You have. I ain't tell, I didn't know about, maybe I haven't, I didn't know about. So you're saying that if you knew

your friend was with somebody, you don't want to be with her? Nah, I can't. So you wanted them coming to you? But no, but I'm just saying, like I said, I ain't, check this out, Richard, I ain't got but a home, I got like two best friends. I got two. I'm talking about die for.

They die for me. And why? They need kidneys. Huh? They need kidneys? I say if they need a kidney and we match, they good. Are y'all going to, is anybody here going to give me a kidney? No, I'm just telling you.

My friends? But I think a lot of times guys will say that to try to keep, man, I don't care nothing about that. Go ahead. Go ahead. But you know it's going to break their heart. That's not with me. It's not like that. It doesn't break my heart because she wants to be with you and you want to be with her.

So why would I be mad? Because she and you both, I'm not convincing nobody. Right. They say not. And I'm like, they ain't fucking with you. They ain't with it like that. But they really was with it. And so I'm like, I'm excited for y'all.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I hope that he, and I thought that I would get the same respect. Well, clearly that didn't happen. But it didn't. And I'm not going to go up. It didn't ruin the relationship. I'm not going to go up.

Not is it worth it. It's like, yo, Ray, meet me outside. Let's fight. Why would I? I'm going to have to pass. Come on, my nigga. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know, it's one of those things, but I got nothing but love for Fully. And that's so long ago. I'm sure he's good now i'm sure if we sat down and talked we'll probably be super cool now right and i'm sure that that might happen after this interview right because motherfucker everybody watch your shit so you know you didn't help me mend a couple relationships and get a couple

oh you five percent of a couple deals already in perpetuity when you were younger, you went after some older women, bro. He's good. I'm like... I'm looking at him like... Listen, listen. Shay Shay,

you have a fucking book. My team good, man. The team good, the team good man it was you it was you y'all got the stuff the DS one

scared me I think it went over the note but you were right on the motherfucking money when you were younger, what was it about the allure of an older woman? It was the fact that somebody was like 15,

20, 30 years older than you. What was your attraction? Was it the name? Was it the allure? What was it? You know, with an older woman back in the day when I was like 15, 14, I had a girl she was like 34 I was like 14 how long is the how is that 14 20 that's 19 20 years 20 years older what the

older woman made me realize was that I was dirty and I needed to be clean I needed to be cleaned. I needed to be cleaned. I needed to be cleansed. I was dirty, right, literally. Dirty minded. Dirty in the field. And bodily dirty. So, my little 30 year old,

like she was, I think, 34. I'm going to say D. You know what I'm talking about um so i would go over to her house she had all white and what happened was she told me to take a shower one day before i got in her bed so i took a shower i took a bath rubbed myself i thought i did i mean everywhere shit i get out the shower and i take the white towel and i dry myself off and the towel dirty as a dirty it's still dirty i mean i probably bathed myself drying off better than i did in the shower right towel dirty than a motherfucker so she start tripping that ain't how it go so she

put me in the tub in roses and bathed me every night until i got in the bed and the tub was, I mean, it was, it was unsittable. You couldn't, nobody could sit in there after that. It was just a pool with the ring around really dirty. So she, so they really taught me how to be clean. And that's why I love an older woman because they really just, they, they, they like bathed me. They cleansed me of all dirt and all sin back in the day. And I'll never forget them.

You still interested in older women? I'm old now, so I can't hang on to that. But you're too old now. We're talking 80, 90, you know, like 95. But I love a 95-year-old woman. Don't get me wrong. I just don't want to bother her. I don't want to bother her.

I don't want to mess with her like that right now. Fuck up her day. Your sister's assistant, you ended up dating, and this tape I'm just trying to figure out Ray is there any way okay

go ahead is there any way before we get into this we can take a tooth I just gotta pee the bathroom's behind you Before we get into this, we can take a two. I just got to pee. The bathroom's behind you. Thanks.

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divorced right or you're already divorced no i'm. Good. This is our third time trying to do it. Is there any chance of reconciliation? It always is. It always is until it's like for sure final. Right. Even if it's final with papers. I mean, that doesn't stop us from like, you know, loving each other. Right.

You know, understanding and learning each other as we go because we're still co-parenting. We both love our kids and we both love being around each other with the kids and without the kids. You know, it's just sometimes time apart heals all. Right. And I think when you get older, you kind of realize that. So let me ask you this. Are you open? So before you are, are you willing to date before the divorce is final? I don't I'm never dating again what do you mean

you'll never get dating again i'm just i've never dated before i mean except for the dating show but um i i don't i'm i don't even like going to dinner period so to go to dinner and go on a date is just something so how are you gonna meet people i don't want to meet anybody. Like, when you love someone, I think you love one time in each life cycle. Like, you really love someone. There's one person you love. And I love that person, you know, and that's Princess. And so, you know, whatever happens, if she loves again or finds somebody else, you know, I just have to deal with that. But as far as for me, it's just work, I just have to deal with that.

But as far as for me, it's just work, work, work, work, work. If I got friends, like I've always been blunt my whole life and then I met Princess, so then I slowed it all down. But now that I'm here, I'm back being extremely blunt again. And that's all a woman or whoever you like. That's all they ask is that you just be straight up whether the truth hurts or not can we go back you said you was blunt you met princess and you slowed it down you mean stop that man there's no other women just you and princess y'all just me and princess and you and you say you so you'll go back to the old ray j no dating just like this is what it

is this is what you get this is what i can offer boom that's it take it and leave it i'm a good friend though but i'm not i'll never be like in love with somebody else when i'm when i already love someone you can't say you you in love and make a vow that intense even if even if it gets you know cut short for me you know my word is all i got so that's what i said it was and that's what it is what seems to be the issue with you and princess just um i think just i don't really know but i know that there's a world outside that wants to see you go down. And there's a world outside that if they don't get what they want, they'll try to crumble everything around. Right. So it just has to do with a lot of he say, she say. And sometimes you may get tired of somebody for a little while.

And then, you know, you want to just go out and see what's out there. And then you sometimes figure there's nothing else out there. Then you fall back in love with the person. So maybe that's what that is. I don't know. But I know I love Princess. And, you know, right now I'm working hard. I'm making sure she's involved with everything I'm doing on every major TV show, from producer to EP to her shows. And to us, just spending a lot of time with the kids. We got horses together.

She has a horse. I have a horse. The horse had a baby. A horse is a horse, of course. You know what I'm saying? And so my kids got horses, too. So I'm tired of horsing around which was very like weird what i said but shout out to mr ed would you i mean let i'm i i don't want to be presumptuous

and but am i hearing you correctly where you are you saying that you would be okay if she found someone else spent a little time with that person it didn't work out and then you guys come back together well i would be devastated of course but you know again just because the person i love goes out to experience life i mean everybody deserves that You only get one life. When we're both 75, you know, God willing, or 80 or 85, and we're sitting at the table,

and she asks me, did you live it up? And I'm like, yeah, I did. And when I ask her the same, I want her to say the same. No, I want to say no. That's not fair. Man, look here, I don't want canned apples or ride, I want to say no. That's not fair. Man, look here.

I don't want canned apples or ride the merry-go-round. That's not fair. That's not fair. No. But if you rode the merry-go-round. Yeah, yeah. You know, you. She riding the merry-go-round.

She ride. You've been merry-go-rounding. So she still got to mess with your merry-go-round. No, that's different. You got to mess with her merry-go-round. That's different. No different. No different.

And I'm telling you, I'm telling telling you i had to train myself to get to that point because it's hard because a man realizing that a woman is moving on or don't want to fuck with him no more is a mind fuck and it takes them a long time to get over it you know i'm saying and so for me i had to get over that and then understand that everything should be equal. Like if I'm this is going to hurt. I got to tell you. Yeah. If I just had a six some last night.

Right. Right. Which I can't. It's just too much. Yeah. Right. It's too much energy for me. It's my things to do in the next day.

Right. But if you had a six. Yeah. She should be able to have a six. No. A five. No. Four.some. Yeah. She should be able to have a sixsome. No. A fivesome. No. Foursome.

No. Listen, twosome. A sevensome is out of bounds. No. She didn't wait at home for me to call. A sevensome and you had a sixsome is not being equal to life. And so that's a big problem, right? But sixsome, you did a sixsome?

Get over it. She did a sixsome. It'll kill you. You'll jump in a fire and rather be burned for the day and walk back home with no arms. Then the person you love did the same thing you did last night, but just with the people that she was just fucking with. And then the next day, she don't give a fuck about them but if women don't operate like that it's a it's hard for a woman to operate like that men operate like that you like you said you have well listen women are the new men women are in control they've always been in control in real life but now it's come

to a place where women always been smarter more compassionate they they they spend more time on making sure things are right and so they should have the same equality and doing that as a man if he's out there doing that of course if you don't want her doing that then don't you do it period yeah but if you are you have to accept the equality of what that should be and you have to think about it in the worst way too like you did a six some go 13 some and then go to 12 and then just accept it right even if she like i wouldn't that that ain't even right that ain't even her style though but accept that if if you know if you doing it because if she finds out it hurts just the same or it hurts worse and men don't think it, but it hurts. Because we've been taught.

It hurts the same way or worse. But see, we've been taught and women have told us like it's more sex is more tied to emotion and feelings. And so for them to be able to distinguish sex from feeling unless that's your profession it's kind of hard i don't think so not in not in 2024 back in the day yes okay in 2024 it's like that under ridge i think so i'm gonna get married it's scary man it is don't ever think that you know guys think well yeah i had a crazy night baby you know just like baby i had a crazier night wait what happened what's wrong it's like that's not right right right you got to be able to accept it if your night was crazy expect that she had a crazier night wow didn't stop y'all from

coming back together the next day eating breakfast she if she was a good cook she cooked you breakfast you cooked her to eggs benedict. I ain't even hungry no more, Ray. You feel me? She done already had the eggs benedict. She don't want no more. She good. She ain't hungry. Would you ever date a celebrity again? No. I'm never

dating anybody again. Done. I'll never love. I'll never date. Man, that's... Look, I understand. That's your love I'm not trying to say anything right I care so much about being honest I give no fucks at all

I don't give a fuck I care so much I give no fucks I care more than anything in the world but you want Prince's love back huh I give no fucks. I care more than anything in the world. But you want Prince's love back, huh? I want her to know that I'm never going anywhere.

She knows that. And so together, through these phases, I just want to make sure that we're good and the kids know that we're still a solid unit together. Right. That's very important when you meet kim who at the time is that cam kim kim kim got it okay yeah got it okay who's brandy's stylist correct is that what she was at the time um closet designer closet designer okay and uh her other her sister was brandy's assistant okay yeah shout out to them um for sure was there instant attraction or because she was around so much you developed an attraction she wasn't around again brandy has her world i have my world brandy birthday come up we all having dinner it's a big birthday dinner

a lot of people at the table okay now over the years you know um like this this posture here here are we perfect here here i can be loose see american okay i'm doing coming to africa too okay later she can be on that with me um so yeah again being brandy's brother again brandy thank you thank you for allowing me to just be in the room because in that room i was you know yeah a lot of things happen in different rooms and so brand hooked that up and it was a journey and an adventure and it led to a lot of big positive things in this industry the wheels are turning different now yeah maybe i was a part of the hubcap of it or the hundred spoke of it um but it happened and um and yeah it's it's a it's a mind-blowing thing you know and god is good it helps us all you know move forward and and being

at peace and understanding that shit and understanding the talent that we all have scares me sometimes. Hold for sound. OK. OK. I've held for it. So did you think this tape would ever get out? The tape? The tape. did you have a copy she had a copy there were the two copies or one copy see and you my motherfucking boy now and i fuck with you tough this shit has been a fucking dope ride i feel like i'm in like i'm in a therapy session that I should be in because my therapist, she just listened to me. She don't say nothing back. And I'm like, is that what's happening? She's just like, I'm like, okay.

Okay. Because you don't supposed to give me no opinion back. But I just, I never really learned. And this, I would love to say more than I can. Okay. I would love to say more than I can. Okay. But it's, you know, you're dealing with a different kind of, like, story and a different kind of situation. And it's tough to explain it today like I could before.

You know what I'm saying? But it's been very profitable for you, correct? It was. Yeah, it was. It is still currently i mean i haven't really the highest selling sex tape of all time estimators made over 100 million you negotiated through what my sources have told me a million dollars advance and you get 49 of the profit and so you look at that you look at raycon you look at scooty bike you look at now right and then you look at somebody saying you know i got a loan for three million it's like that the only thing bogus about all that is the loan right because i make a i make

money i'm not gonna say a lot of money because that's corny. I make money and I invest it. And it comes in ways where I've practiced and disciplined myself to not have money. Meaning like whatever I have, I don't have. So when you watch all of these people stunting and they hopping off the jets and they got all this jewelry on and they're they're they're in there think they are inferior to the person with no money the person with no money is more relatable than the person who has money right so it's not cool to have money to me i think it's cool to use the money to continue to grow the businesses ray i'm gonna disagree i think it's cool to have money. It might not be cool to flaunt it.

It's never cool to flaunt it, but it's not even cool to have it. Money is not okay. You know it. I know it. We want to get something today. We want to get something tomorrow. You got it.

Then what? You in your new house? Looking at other shit to mine. Don't you like the access and the freedom that money allows you to have absolutely absolutely but it doesn't make me more than anybody else no no no and i think that's the problem with some of the people who have tried to be my friend or people that are rich around me like i'm gonna check the shit out of anybody that disrespects my housekeeper, the valet, the janitor, anybody that I need that's more important than me, which is everybody around me. I can't move without, you know what I'm saying, the trash man coming to get the trash.

It's over for us. It's rats everywhere, right? So they're needed more than me. Same with my housekeeper. Same with my security. Same with my assistant. Same with everybody around me. I just the equality of everybody matters. And I think the money makes people think that they shit different. Like, does my shit stink? No, because I'll be smoking a blunt when I'm taking a shit. So you can't really smell it. But it still stinks. If I didn't like the blunt.

So I keep a blunt leg. But I'm my ass and I don't mean to talk about my ass but it's no more better than anybody else's ass just because I got a little money. And that's why if I make money

and I say shit, we made 80 million in the last three years. You know why that goes over everybody's head? Because it doesn't sound believable. It's absolutely absurd. So why would we even listen to you say that, right? Right. And so that's the underestimation of money and what it does when you don't act like you have it.

Or you don't act like that is what makes you who you are. You see what this family, the Kardashians, have been able to do. You look at Kim, who's a billionaire. You look at the younger sister, Kylie. Love what Kylie's doing. Amazing. Close to a billionaire, not a billionaire. All the family. For sure, B, for Kendall.

And I love what Kendall's doing and Kylie. love what ken kindle's doing and and kylie how different how different are their lives minus this tape that's a crazy question man uh because we know who their father is because he was the one of the lead attorneys on oj rest rest his soul rest oj Damn, that nigga just died. Rest in peace, O.J. He was a cold one. So we knew who they were. We knew that family. But we knew him. Can I get some of that O.J. we had last night?

That shit was killer. There you go. That shit was good as fuck. The duck oranges aren't so... I didn't mean that. That was distasteful and disgraceful. And that's not okay. And I want to apologize to everybody in here.

Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. And your best guess, how different is that family or is that family life? You know, I think more of the question is how different would we all be how different would this whole fucking thing be how different would the industry be how different would the wheel roll everything would be different we would all be different all of us everybody in here would be different we'll have on different clothes what you mean everything would be

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Yeah. I have kids now so when I have kids now, so... When I have kids... Everything that we did now, when I have kids, it's totally different. The whole thing is wacky. Before, I was just like... But with my kids, it's not okay. And so, I can't... Without me going too far into it, without me getting in trouble.

Yeah, I mean, nah. It's not okay now. But I'm 43. With a kid that's four and a kid that's six. My daughter's six. My son's four. And even though you're young, and even in that young kid world, they'll all probably think it's fucking cool. Yeah.

Until you have kids. Right. And you have a daughter. And there's some other shit right we're fine everything's fine how did you find out that the tape had gotten leaked where were you when you found out did your homies tell you did your mom call you like ray j you need to get home you need to where were you the moment that you found out that Ray J is on tape having sex so long ago all I remember is how it smells I'm just playing I can't I didn't mean that either. Smell great.

I love the wood kind of sandal. Right? It's really good. Yep. Oh, man. It's fucking cool, man. You mentioned Kanye earlier. Your relationship with him now

That nigga gave me a straight jacket for a gift. A what? A straight jacket. It was Balenciaga. But... It was a... One way you see the jacket, so it's dope. Yeah. But then there's the other way is the same.

So I put it on. You know what I'm saying? Because when he gave it to me, I took it home. I didn't I put it on. You know what I'm saying? Because when he gave it to me, I took it home. I didn't want to open it. You know what I'm saying? I didn't want to wait until I get home. I want my friends. Pulled it out.

Tried to put it on. And it was like, you know, it was a strage jacket. It was my friends. They were all, like, happy. And then I could see their face, and i was like you know is that saying something is it what is this a is this what does this mean a straitjacket that i that has no sleeves to wear i thought it i hit him and i hit dp and i said my nigga like i thought it I hit him And I hit DP And I said My nigga like I thought it was okay

At first But after presenting What you trying to say? After presenting To my friends man Nobody Nobody was happy So I'm trying to understand

What is this? And You know It's a custom piece You know Something Monumental that You know

Niggas want you to have And that's how we feel about you That's what we Okay Alright So That. And that's how we feel about you. That's what we... Okay. Alright. So, that's... And that's where we left it. I got the straight jacket. Niggas went to Dubai. And, um, you know, I ain't seen niggas since.

You know. I mean, sure, they've been busy. I've been busy. Uh... Nigga want a regular gift, though. Yeah. But he did mention you in a verse though right he did but I mean niggas got the new cyber trucks out

and all kind of shit like you know what I'm saying he apologized to me in drink champs nobody aired it nobody showed it cause it was at a time when he was going through the other stuff. Well, tell them to see you in them Cybertrucks and you accept the apology. You know what? He watches Club Che Che too,

which is dope because I'm getting... How do you know he watch? I guarantee you Kanye watches Club Che Che. And that's a fact. There's no way Kanye doesn't watch Club Che Che um but we got cool and i'm fucking around with the straight jacket he did give me one well i bought it for 20

it's 20 bucks but he didn't tell me it was not wearable but for 20 i mean the straight jacket still worth bal Balenciaga is big as a motherfucker. Like, it's heavy. So if y'all want to get it, I'm selling it for like $300. I got to make a profit. Right? That's a big profit. $280. Celebrity boxing.

Would you really do a celebrity boxing match? Who would I fight? Not no more. I don't have anybody to fight you don't make peace with everybody everybody man i don't have a problem with nobody everybody that i said something bad to and if i never apologized i apologize everybody that said something bad to me i apologize for you right that's how serious this shit is like like i want peace with everybody and um if we can all do business later i i have something to bring to the table so i'm excited about that what about only fans would you do only fans i think if only fans was doing more of a a ratchet clean cut kind of like how do you get ratchet and clean in the same center well that's

kind of like what the Tronics Network is. It's it's it's it's not only fans, but it's it's a very loud network that gives you a chance to make more money than you make on the fans or even in the advertising space. No disrespect to YouTube and all the podcast shows and Linktree and all these motherfuckers. Right. But the wave is this is the way. Right. You are the wave is this is the wave right you are the wave you are the wave right so you got this way if you would allow us to wave a little bit with you the side wave with us is like we surfing bro like the we surfing like this with the electric surfboard so it's just gliding with an extra like an extra like layer of like

you know bread that goes forever like that's what we specialize in making money that nobody knows is being made and keeping the discipline to act like it's not being made i'm trying to figure out how were you able to go to hugh healthner Playboy part of the 16? How you do that? And guess what? Hugh used to let me pull my car right up in the front and behind his. While everybody took the shuttle, just pull right up. So we'll

go in there. You know you weren't supposed to be in there. I know I was. But it's dope because it was a house. So I never really tried to go and put people in in jeopardy in their businesses and be at at the actual club so i always went to like houses i'm just saying hanging out i'm with you we chilling he know what's up with us and we've always brung an assorted flavor of friends and fun and limited friction. You one of the only people I know

that's kind of been to some of these parties. What do Hollywood parties really like? You know, for me, it's just a lot of beautiful women. I barely, like, went up in, like, these parties and went to their bedrooms and shit and had a good time upstairs because I always have my own upstairs

and downstairs. Especially at the house in Como Circle. Good looking. Like 10? 10s and 2s. I don't do 2s and 3s. I used to do 2s. I used to do 2s and 3s.

A 10, I would take them out to eat. Then I'd drop them off at 10.30 and then I'd be with a 2. From 12 to 5. 3. I didn't like 10. I didn't like 10s to be with. The upkeep too high?

It's just a lot. I mean, just the expectations and all the things that they're used to. I'm on T. I got something in it. Ooh. Just the expectations is too much i like a 10 to talk business and for her to whoever she likes after this she can go back to eat a little corn have a little motherfucking bread have a little clam chowder not that kind but with the bread and then a little hot sauce like i love you girl um but yeah on your shirt but yeah so

there's some people recently that you know you um and your friend cool with the r kelly situation and the daddy situation what's going through your mind you hear with obviously r kelly's his his thing has already been handed down he's already received his punishment and you see daddy going through your mind when you hear, obviously R. Kelly, his thing has already been handed down, he's already received his punishment, and you see Denny going through what he's going through. It's heartbreaking man. Everybody messes up, but that's, we can't, we can't, we can't be cool after that took me like a week to like it's like some that's unforgettable unforgivable is it's too much never being able to be around us in our world because we don't condone that is definitely a fact. And from there, you have to go on that journey on your own and find yourself and find forgiveness for yourself in somewhere far away from where we are.

There's no room for that here. There's no room for that in this world that we've been working hard to get to and to limit our mistakes and to continue to build our respect. And what scares me about that is that if there's other guys out there that's doing that or have done that and that are forgiven now i would say what what what do we do with them how does that work you know that's the only thing i'm kind of confused about because if if i'm like i'm good but there's i might run into a couple people and forgot that they might have been in that situation, haven't seen it, that's just fucking unacceptable. I've never, ever seen nothing like that in my life.

I've never witnessed nothing like that in person or on camera besides the Tina Turner movie. Right. That shit was out of bounds, right? Right, for sure. right that was out of bounds right right for sure so if i didn't see somebody else do it but i heard about it and they they're they're forgive now that i know that what do i do with these or what do i do with them what do you do what do we do i'm asking you right oh you i i agree with you i've never been around and see in situations like that i've never seen don't know of anything to

that nature but had i i would i would intervene i would have went crazy i'd intervene i'm not gonna let you do i'm not gonna let you do that because i've never trust me i got a sister mom and a daughter it would have been my pleasure to get busy and protect whoever was going through that and i and cassie like you are you are strong and you know we're talking about your situation so with all due respect I'm sorry for everything that you encountered I've been around you I've been around y'all I never knew you know I'm saying and I apologize for even just for even continuing to just be around right like i don't know what who i am now knowing this i know what i won't allow and um so if i know anybody around me that's

active in that world i'm gonna react right and now i'm just going through what do we do And now I'm just going through what do we do with people that have been in those situations that we've never seen what it looks like. Right. But we know that it happened. What do we do? Because I can forgive from afar. But like I'm not saying what's up to puff like that ever again. It's not cool like that

So shouldn't it be like that with every other nigga? For sure that has even remotely Played around with that kind of situation and been involved with even the smallest amount like right People hit me in a you know Some of the some of the comments and the comments comments are like BB shots to me from like 10 miles away. But you look at some of the TV shows we did. You look at me and Princess arguing a little bit on TV. They say, oh, you pushed Princess in the pool and all of that. And I'm sorry, Prinky.

And that's all television stuff. And shout out to Viacom and Paramount Plus because when shit is real in a dark place right they there's boundaries they're not gonna go there right so you and you enjoy the demise of relationships on tv but that's still on these surfaces of disagreeing and trying to do better don't do that again don't yell don't write that ain't that that's not that that's something else bare knuckles knuckles like you know I'm saying the homie need a public whipping yeah it's the only way it's gonna get this only way it's gonna be right with a public whip man like you know the whip he could possibly have some serious trouble reading that

they're possibly convening a grand jury to a hundred lashes for the for the for the for the first half is For the first half. Is the Puffy, the P. Diddy, is his life as we know it, is it over? Not he's going to die or anything like that, but I'm saying, will he ever be what he once was? A thousand lashes. From everybody that you've slain and hurt, thousand lashes publicly a thousand that would that would that would help a thousand lashes made by you somebody yo that's gonna give it to me. Not my size. My arm hurt.

Your size. Niggas ain't going to make it past nine. So think about a thousand. A thousand lashes. And you're that forgiving. Right. A few years ago, you called to scare. You posted, if it wasn't for my kids, I would jump off and die tonight.

Should I just jump and end it right now? Maybe the next life, my real story. And then your sister posted, need you, bro, to pray in hands. What were you going through at that point in time that had you so low that as great is Ray J had it contemplated that I was a motherfucking mushrooms man motherfuckers I do know Dude, no. Never again. What made you try? You know you ain't supposed to eat no frog house. It was good for, the fungus was good, whatever. But an eighth of it, and then just still going through stuff, right? And then, you know, naturally you enhance yourself. and you just lose it a little bit um

and then you know like i think that just regular maybe weed here and there okay and that's it for me like the mushrooms and other things that can charge your inner emotions it's just something that you you know don't need to do like if you that brown makes you a mad drunk they don't drink brown right it makes you happy focus on those things if it's water or you know busting a nut or whatever it is right do that instead of that and so that just took me somewhere else and i was um i was in a real black i was in a real bad place it's pretty ugly so there was nothing wrong with just that you got you got a hold of something saying I was in a real bad place. It's pretty ugly. So there was nothing wrong with you just that you got a hold of something that

you shouldn't have had. No, there was something wrong with me. Really? But the stuff can activate the honest emotions. And that's sometimes what shrooms do. I don't know if you're seeing the truth. You're seeing a little bit of the truth and then you just start acting like everybody's bad.

But before that, you can see a little bit of it before you start going on your tweak. Right. But, yeah, I was going through some stuff. And my mom and my sister, princess, the kids, everybody helped me through that. My dad. Yeah, and sometimes you just kind of hit rock bottom emotionally you start to not like think everything is a dream nobody's real because this whole shit is backwards what type of dad does ray j want to be to the kids because you had a great role model

your father was there your mom was there in your life all the time it's great very very supportive like so you had a great you know what you have a great game plan the foundation I had was was was perfect and I think that's what was confusing because you know I wasn't perfect and life and everything that I'm seeing around me is not perfect so what what is this is this real or is this real am I real or is that real right when the only things really that's real to me right now is just my family my kids and in my family meaning like you have your family like your kids your baby mama your wife right And then you have your family, your mom, your dad, your sister,

and your family, your friends, and everything. And all that shit starts to not seem like none of it's like real. It's just all a dream. Actually, when that kind of shit happens, you need to take a break. A couple weeks off.

You know what I'm saying? For sure. You like going I'm saying? For sure. You like going viral? No. Why you do it? You say certain things? What I say today, y'all, I don't know how to go viral.

Yeah, you do. I try not to. I don't know what's going on. I just know that I'm unfiltered and I just love not giving a fuck Your honesty creates viral moments Yours do even more You are the viral king right now

Like you know I'm sure you got a hundred and fifty People trying to get on the show You like look We can get you on June 2027 That's CJ I hit y'all though too get you on June 2027. That's CJ.

CJ Hathaway. I hit y'all, though, too. And I said, I need to get in. I need to get in. So I'm happy y'all called me because I'm like, I need to jump up in this like right away. We glad you took time out of your business. This was by far the most

fun I've had on there. I thought Jason Lee was fun last week, but this is way more on another level of like, me and Jason was having a good time. He was asking me some shit, but it was just crazy. This is very strong.

It has a lot of substance behind it. And I think a lot of people are going to watch this. You know what I mean? And there's things that I've said that are going to help certain relationships. And it's going to bring about unity in certain areas that wasn't there before. Just off them hearing what I'm saying. So I appreciate this. Did you play sports growing up?

I hated sports. Damn. No, I never made the cut. But I blow 20K. 20k course i like it up oh you like the lakers huh you i just like i like balling off the court i like being i like being successful to all of the the sports players and the sports teams and even the rappers and the singers that are successful there's other ways to be successful. Right. You know what I'm saying? And we've carved these ways out to where

we're going to be on time. Every fucking time. But we don't have to be. Why did you give up acting? Are you interested in going back? Well, working on scripted stuff right now, Jackie Long, actor gang, myself, I'm bridging the gap between reality stars and actors.

Because the reality stars have more pull. They have more relevance. The young actors, they have skill. They will never go into reality because it's a sin for actors in their world. Yes. How do you bridge the gap we found away? And so I do want to do acting. It just takes a long time.

I have extreme AD i have adhd with an extra ex on it and so to do one scene here then one scene there and then this one up here and then some some directors like to go through the glass through the hoop through the straw to get this one shot that my might take two days we shoot i could shoot a whole reality show, 12 episodes in three days. And so we just have more of a Tyler Perry approach to reality as opposed to just these long Umbrella Academy like shot, which is extremely well time consuming. Movies take too fucking long. movies take too fucking long last movie i did shit would it take us 20 minutes i don't mean that one yeah yeah you do no i don't yeah because i would know you try to sneak it by you try to sneak it by you try to sneak it by no that one was like three and a half days that was three and a half days that was three and a half days of reality too because

it was a full like thing i had a full production i mean man shout out to all my people in cabo that did grip everything yeah that was i mean it was like commercial break man it's all a blur. Ten years from now, what is Ray J doing? Where is he in life? Ten years from now, God, please. I love it here. I love it here for another 20,

30. I love it until you give me my wings to just jet rocket to the next planet. Thank you for letting me be here 10 if god allows it um in my drawers overlooking the water just doing a few deals last few deals just i gotta be in my drawers looking at the water crib in the back kids having a good time you know i'm saying you want more kids uh i think, I think I can have. I mean, my sperm count was low. It was like 9 million before, but I think it's at like 65 million now.

So maybe one more. You have to get rid of them bloods and go back up. If Pricky want to have another one, I'll do it, but not with nobody else. Won't do that. But if she want to, then I'll do it. She want to adopt or do whatever. We got to have 100 kids. A whole little army.

Raycare Foundation. You know? A little, like a Ratched Reality Eddie Murphy version of Raycare. And coming to Africa. Going to go find royal things in Africa.

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