Club Shay Shay - REACTION to Cowboys Packers tie, Ravens get blown out by Chiefs, Jaxons Dart wins first start | Deebo and Joe

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a wild NFL football Sunday. The Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys end up in a tie 40-40, the Baltimore Ravens got run off the field by the Kansas City Chiefs, and Jaxson Dart makes his first start at as a Giant and much more! 00:00 - Introduction08:00 - Steelers beat Vikings26:00 - Lions beat Browns31:05 - Ravens blow out Chiefs44:45 - Packers x Cowboys end in tie49:35 Giants beat Chargers, Nabers tears ACL1:01:00 Eagles beat Bucs1:06:40 - Cam Ward frustrated (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NIghtcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome back to Debo and Joe on this Victory Monday. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. please make sure you guys like and subscribe. How are you doing today, Joe? Man, Debo, I'm feeling good, man. You know, Steelers came through with that good early morning.

Hold on, hold, hold on. You know what I'm saying? Well, it was good. Stillers. I could have swore last Monday you was wearing a browns jersey, weren't you? I keep, Debo, Devo, every time this happens, I always tell you, I have multi-loyalties. So, when the Steelers win,

I feel happy about it. When the Browns win, I feel happy about it. So I'm able to do a little bit of both. So what happened when we played twice a year? When we play once a year, Debo, twice a year. When we play twice a year, I'm neutral. I want to see good football.

I want the best team to win. So you're going into the Hall of Fame is neutral. See, why you keep going about this Hall of Fame thing, Devo? I got next loyalties. You are obviously with distilling. and we're going to rock with that. But it's okay. Can I not show distilling some love, too?

Is that okay? It's okay. I'm just trying to get a clarification. The people keep asking me, Joe. Okay. The people keep asking me, every time you ask me, I'm going to give you more and more clarity.

Every time, whatever you need clarity. Let's talk about, let's talk about my, I mean, are, are stilling, man, you know. We're out there in Dublin, Ireland, going out there first time ever, getting that good dub. early in the morning Mr. Rooney, of course, yes, sir,

early in the morning, 9.30. I ain't going to lie to you. I didn't like how our first possession went. Like, we get sacked on the first down, brother, and it looked like it was just a pure misassignment. We get pressured on the next two, and then we got to punk the round. Yeah, early.

Minnesota get the ball. They started driving down the field, and we get a fumble, baby, for a touchdown. recovery. I'm like, hey, this is what we do. That's what you thought. That's what I thought. And then I saw the running back. He went on head and touched the ball. They had to do some rude stuff and all that, whatever it was. Yes, yes. That was flu. I didn't like it, but they helped us out. They, they had a legal man down field. We came in there with that sack him on third down, held him to a field goal, you know. Yes. But we get back. out there, you know what I'm saying? We got to get that man involved. Who that man is?

That man is D. K. Mediath. K. Medcats. That man. We went on here and we started moving him around. We said, you know, we ain't going to put him out there always at the one. We're going to move him to the two and the three. We say, Rodgers, hey, instead of just straight out running the run, listen, you a man

that had been in this league forever. You wanted the best to ever do it. Look what you see. And we're going to get. give you run pass option. So we started doing a little dink and dunk here on the run pass option. He don't like what he see.

He'd go on here and he toss it off. And what we do, what we do. Your man, Gainwell ended up finishing it off. We got a T.D. on that drive. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Touchedown. Gainwell, brother, was poop. And the one thing I loved about that, too,

was in that drive, you said, D.K. had three catches on that drive. And Gainwell, brother. even just he was toting that rock and just being able to give him the ball, give him chances. He did his thing on that drive. So I love to see that.

When they went down there, scored, made it 7 to 3, back to the Vikings. I see what they're going to do. They do much of nothing, man. They come down there. You know, they get a play here and there. But, you know, defense go on ahead.

And, you know, they're blissing on them boys. They go on ahead, get a nice little false start. And what happened again? Set that. Put that ball on over the head. And we were just talking about some man. What would that man name was? The one that we talked about that we needed to just get involved,

just get his feet where they're saying he hasn't been being explosive. They don't know what it is. And he, D.K., what did he, 80 yard, took it to the crib. My man was running like a mixture of Adrian Peterson. He had a little Pacheco. He was grinding, getting up the sideline. And I loved the way that he finished it on the three and still ducked in the buddy. still got into the end zone.

That play was unbelievable. DK was, he looked, he looked great. Hit him and said, I ain't going out of bounds. What are going like going out of bounds? I ain't run this far not to go in here and get me six. I ain't about to run in here and not get me six. What's you talking about? That was five, bro.

That was, that was grade A, D.K. That was prime D.K. You know, running down the field looking sweet. No question. So that turned to the 143. It's 143. Debo, at this point, I'm like, Oh, we might as well.

This could be the game. We might as well just run away with it. Defense performing, offense performing, let's keep it going. No question. Minnesota, you know, they did a little something. Defense been a little bit, but we're on break, you know what I'm saying? We went on ahead. We got heavy.

We started blissing them, you know what I'm saying, doing what we had to do. What happened then? Interception. Clear. Inception. Yeah. So we get a pick. We get the pick.

But then after that, still is field goal. Well, this is what happened, man. You know. What happened there? Rogers went on ahead and took off. He fumbled the rock.

You know. Yeah. But we recovered it. You know what I'm saying? And then we got, you know, we got sack later. Settled for the field goal to temp.

But, uh, That damn Rogers, he came in there and blocked it. You know what? I sit in the amazing player of the week last week. That's what I shouldn't do. He might not have blocked that field, though. He was watching. He had to do.

He had to be. He had to be. Offense, they come out there, man. They go for, I think, like 10, 12 on the pass, but then we get a rough in the pass. So that add 15 on it. then we get caught in the blitz they hit us for 17, then

30 but you know then then but don't break that's exactly what we do. We give them a little three we get them a little three

half time 16 14 14 6 a half time yeah 14 16 I ain't tripping you know what I'm saying my man DK got

122 at the half you know Rodgers 12 or 14 for 165, you know. I ain't go lie. That boy wins. Yeah, he went 16 to 20 for 150. And Jeffries, you know, Jefferson, he had like 100, maybe 97, 95, something like that. Brother, it's the big, they were giving up a lot of big plays.

They were keeping them out of the end zone. But they definitely too many just blown coverages, those overrouts. You've got to keep eyes on them. I think sometimes into those blown coverages. We're going to get into them in the second half when we could have really ran away with it. You know what I'm saying? But we just, we got to tighten up.

It's definitely been, but don't break. But you can't just have people running scot for you. Yeah, we come out. They get the rock, you know. Target for a lost sack, all that. Let's go. Still a ball and three and out. Come on, man.

What are we doing? Quick, quick three and out. We get back in there, though. Sack four. Sucble. Sack, fumble. But they recovered it anyway. They recovered it.

But sack again. And then they went on head and tried to pick it. And, you know, it's another man on that team that's on a. That man, T.J. Swat is always going to conch through it with a play. Jay Swat, pick, catch, run with that thing. Bro. That thing, that was. Run with that thing.

It was a good short field. What do you need? Oh, go out there. What did they do? T.D. T. to who to who the running back listen man we getting we getting we getting we getting we getting we getting we getting we getting everybody involved often did a better job running that ball too they especially with that that that that past run option i wouldn't i wasn't tripping man i wasn't tripped i was very very it looked good man it looked good especially in the first half that's still going into the second half game well just making sure that we end of the day having him run the ball even if he's not getting like 10 yards of pop.

He was getting like five, six yards of pop. That's going to make the defense that's going to put D.K. in these one-on-one, in these one-on-one matchups. For sure, for sure. So this is what I'm trying to get to, man. Sack game came a lot. Yes. I think the six sacks we had, I believe three or four of them was on third down.

Situation of ball, man. That's what we do, man. That's what we do. We go ahead and move the ball. a little round a little bit. You know, we, we settle for a nice little, little, little, little, little field goal. We got to feel, go. We got to feel a little.

But, again, Minnesota get the ball. We had, we had Jalen get hurt. And I think that was the play where we had that blown coverage. Dude just running Scott Free. Running Scott Free, that's what I'm talking about. We can't have those. We can't have that at all. now scoffrey t d they end up getting this now we're in a fight

and they got the two-point conversion now we're in a fight now 21 21 24 14 you know what else happened 24 i think they played their renegade again at the wrong time see okay that's not when they ended up scoring 15 after they played their renegade again at the wrong time when they ended up getting that touchdown debo because the score now is 24 to 14 No, it's not It's 24-21 right now, right? No, it's 21-14.

You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. No, it's not. It's 21-24. 24-14, because it still has just got that field goal. You're right. Yeah, listen here, man. I'm just telling y'all, if y'all can't play the renegade at the right time, don't do it. Last time y'all played it, it was against Seattle when they was about to kick off to us,

and that did not end up, okay? We come out there after that, though, and we do it. We do a hot three-in-out. Like, like, yeah, yeah, like three-in-out?

What? Anyway, man, get out here in the, you know, the defense, they, uh,

they gave up a lot of these yards, dude. I didn't, I didn't really much, um, appreciate the yardish that, that, that my guys gave up.

But, we back into it we end up letting them boys score a touchdown when was it yes that next was it that next possession we let them boys score a touchdown we ain't let them score a touchdown we know we weren't trying to let him score touchdown right and then when we I think a lot of the stuff that we ended up doing at the end of the game too was our play calling when we ended up getting the ball back on fourth and we was not going for it on fourth down I understood I understood the end, I understood, honestly, like, I understood the end of the, of the one, you know, first down, of the end of the fourth down that he didn't go for. And that basically is, like, we're a bend, not break defense.

They're going to need room to bend. Now, if you had went there, went for it, and didn't get it, the yard is that they ended up getting, would have got him a field goal. you said what I'm saying No I feel it I feel it I just I just think at the end of that day I mean no what about the play that we went for when we went forward on fourth down when we did go forward on fourth down

and they ended up I think it was a good call that we went for it on fourth but I think we could have just spreading them out and passed it we tried to run we was fourth in goal from the four yard line obviously we could hopefully like be able to get to run

and hopefully he scores but just with the option of having A-Rod to be able to spread I think there's a lot more five-yard dink-dunk pass plays that you can do to get a touchdown on that play than running the ball right there. But see, that was another situation. We went forward on fourth, didn't get it, and they ended up scoring touchdown all the way from down there. No, I mean, yeah.

That was the blown, because that's the blown cover. You're saying with the, we're like we're on cover four on the side. We had Slay and, my man, the safety step up. And that was great effort by my. man that walked them down, too. Who was that that was a linebacker? What's his name? Binebacker.

Oh, my goodness. That man had to run 20-some miles an hour. He was sliding. No, or that receiver was slow. I don't know. It was probably a combination of both. His sliding and dude wasn't as fast as a normal receiver would be. No, for sure.

But I, at that, I mean, I definitely know what you're saying. That was just a blown coverage. We went for it, and they ended up, like you said, they ended up scoring on that. But, God, damn, they had to drive. They had to go 90. bro, Peyton Wilson. That's the name, bro.

Payton Wilson. Yes. Payton. Listen, listen. Shout out Payson Wilson. Listen. They say 228. 228 miles an hour?

22.4.8 miles an hour. He went to go get him. That boy. He went to go get that. Yes, he did. That boy is fast. That's the effort you need. That's the effort you need.

They're going to play that because he ended up saving a lot of time. They would have scored a whole lot of. quicker. He made him run a whole lot more plays, ended up getting in the end zone. Oh, yeah. They burned off 61 seconds, bro. Oh, yeah, for sure. That definitely helped us, especially towards the end as they were, you know, as they were going down, getting

little stuff here and there. And of course, you know, we got the sack to close it out. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, definitely. The defense went out there, finished to close it out the way that they had to. No. Didn't let them get in field goal range. No, that's great. I just, The two plays, I mean, everything's 20, 2020, hindsight is 2020.

But, you know, I would have just tried to run a pass there on that one. And then on the last fourth, just not letting them get the ball back at all. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I understand what you're saying. But like, like I'm saying, we're ahead. We're ahead. Yeah. You would have did the same thing.

If we don't make it, we just gave them a short field. They don't need three to tie it. Who knows what happens to? overtime. Let me punt this ball, get my defense the opportunity. We already at that time got five sacks. We're pressuring him. We're having, you know, we're having success. I'm going to make you have to drive the field some length before you can get into field goal range to be able to kick it. And, you know, that's exactly what they did. Like I said, we're a defense that's, you know, then don't, don't break. And sometimes we break, though. So they need that room. They need that room

to bend you know the good thing for sure like like you said too you could you could do it both ways you know what I'm saying like if they like you said when they did when we did go for it and they didn't get it they still went down to score so still putting the ball off to the defense putting them in a situation whatever like they could still been able to get the touchdown but like you said they needed some space to bend so I I feel it both ways I just like if you got the ball in your hands don't give it don't give them the opportunity you know what I'm saying like it just If you can close it out with a quick play with a play, with a play, let's do it. Yeah, the things I liked about this game is the options that they gave.

You know, they let Rogers have more control, especially with that run-pass option. If you don't like what he see, he's going ahead and dip it out, that's nothing but a short run anyway. And plus, you know, you get yards after the catch, hopefully. The offensive line still, they block better, you know, but, you know, they still need to do a little bit better. D.K., of course, involved early. That is a chance. You've got to get him involved early. Stiller's defense played the run better, dude.

They pressured the quarterback. They got six sacks. I think four, three or four, we're on third down. They were just situationally better in that. I loved it. The other side, you know, things we can get better at, is just protecting Rogers better. As a defense, we're giving up too many yards, you know.

At some point, the, you know, the bending, you know, you've been, you've been too much. At some point, you're going to make it a little too weak. It's going to start snapping, you know? No, for sure. I think, I think, I don't know good or bad that we're going to start to live and die by the blitz, though. Like, that's something that I saw, like, we were getting a lot of guys up to the line and blitzing to try and, you know, slow down the run to put pressure on. them for the past. It was a couple situations where they caught us in blitzes.

And, you know, they ended up getting yardage because he was able to see it and get the ball away in time. I think I definitely know what you're saying. I mean, everything you were saying with the, I'm liking what I'm seeing, the running game, the defensive run game was a whole lot better. With the blitz in part two, my only thing is, as long as we don't have people running scot-free, like if there's catching tackles, if there's blitz, there's going to be. little windows where people going to be able to make plays,

catch the ball, tackling. If there's people running scot-free through our defense, that's just the only thing that I don't like. We don't need those big miscues, those big explosive plays. And we could just keep those down. You know what I'm saying? Everything else will be fine.

Catching tackle is going to happen. Blitzing to stop the run, blitzing to put more pressure. That's going to happen. Bang, bang plays, catch and tackle. But when people are running through our defense wide open and nobody's there, that's just the thing that's going to mess it all the way up.

So the Bimba Don't Brank is always kind of going to be what we're going to do, make plays, being able to create turnovers, punching the balls out, being real, you know what I'm saying? Elliot making picks, T.J. making picks. We're always opportunistic. A strip sack fumbles, getting after the quarterback, six, seven sacks this game. You know what I'm saying? So I think that is something that we're going to still be able to do. But eliminating people running down your defense, these are going to be like 30-yard plays, 40-yard plays. If you take down those, like we're having two or three a game, that's 60, 70 yards. You know what I'm saying? Per. If you just knock off. three plays.

You know what I'm saying? People running through our defense. So that your defense will be so much better. And it won't look as bad. And everything is kind of flowing when you don't give up chunk plays. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I think that was part of what, you know, Cam had said last week, you know, when he was talking.

Actually, when we talked about, too, with a other man, TJ, that third quarter, that third quarter interception he had made him only the seventh player. to have 100 sacks and 8 interceptions in a career all time. The other six, they all in the Hall of Fame, baby. Thomas Taylor, Richard Dent, Chris Doleman, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers, Ricky Jackson. No question. That's elite company.

That offensive man, the yak monster. Five yards of a tent, but. they say uh whoa distillers only average five yards per attempt in the air that's the fewest but guess guess who lead the league in yards after the catch yak stills yeah because you know you're getting into dk and you getting into jared warren warren getting up out of it after like i think him and like gives you know what i'm saying those running backs that just get the balls hands like You can give them a little screen. Any of those quick passes, those are extended runs.

Right. Those are like no hours for yards. But once he get missing, that 20 yards, that's going to count all that. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. So all in all, I'm extremely, I'm extremely happy, as you can see about my guys win. Again, I got to, I got to go, you know, do me another cigar. I mean, I'm going to mess around it. If I get cancer, I'm going to put that on the Steelers, you know.

You all won it too much, baby. Win it. You're with it too, buddy. Got you hitting them good stuff. Let's get on over here to your Browns, man. God. 30-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-fold to 10. What, Joe, Joe, what happened, Joe?

Man. So, I mean, it wasn't a good show. It wasn't a good showing. First drive was amazing. Everything looked good. Flacco was doing what he needed to do. But I'm just not, I'm not a fan of Flacco anymore. I'm wanting us to do, like, I mean, even if it's Dylan Gabriel, even if it's Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders, something kind of has to shake.

Because I just don't think that he's giving us a chance to win anymore. Like, we understand the vet that's going to come through and be consistent. But if you're giving us zero touchdowns and two interceptions, that's not, you're hurting us more than your, you're not, you're not, you're not just steady in the ship, you're hurting us, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can see, I can put somebody else, some, I can do bad all by myself. So I can put somebody else in that can do different than this, like give us a spark, give us something. I don't care if it's your door, I don't care if it's Dylan, but for the Browns now, I'm just over flaco. And the first drive, it was

amazing. He shows me that he can make plays to Judy, the touch pass and all that. But then like the picks, the pick before. It's a miscommunication. Why are you just launching the ball and throwing it over there? Like, that's not a good play. That's a bad play when we're trying to play against the Lions and beat them. We're not going to win with that type of football. So I'm just kind of good on our defense.

You put us in bad situations. They can only fight for so long. You know what I'm saying? If you keep putting us in bad situations and not in positions to win, I love our defense. They might not have played the best. You got to realize, too, I think on maybe three. of the scores that they had, I think maybe two touchdowns in one field goal,

they were already in your territory. Like, it was, they're already on the other side. I think it's like 35, 40, even closer on one of them. Oh, my man, DJV's pick. He almost picked 60. He went out like the, you know, you can't, like you said, he's hurting the defense. If the defense isn't on the field to even try and stop them,

Special teams didn't help either, you know? No. I mean, when you look at it, what is it? You're looking at 7-7-7-21. You're looking at 24 points that was scored while the defense was either at a disadvantage or not even on the field. Like, you can't. So that's why I can't literally, I can't blame it on and say that, no, the Browns' defense

are playing bad. They gave up 34 points. Let's look how they gave up the 34 points. Let's look at how far they had to travel to get these touchdowns. And look what they're playing against. They're not going against. Bombs Amrase Brown. They're running great pick plays on the thing.

They're making them fight for what they get. So lions went out there, the lions are a great team. So you're not going to beat them if you're beating yourself when you don't have a good offense, putting your defense in a bad position. That's not going to work. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. And even when you look at it, dude, like you said, the defense didn't play bad.

yes, they gave up points, but they're working with a short field. Like, in, you know, three, four of those, shit, three of those situations. The fourth one, they didn't even get to touch the field. And they still only gave up like 275 yards or something like, 280 yards. Brother, in the first half, in the first half, the lines went three and out, first drive, punt. The second drive, they scored, they went down the field, did they think. Third drive, they had a field goal. And then punt, punt.

and then they got the ball on the one-yard line from the pick, I mean, three-yard line from the pick by DJ Reed, and they ended up getting the, they scored on like fourth down. So the Browns defense, at the end of the day, they were performing at a high level, but you can't be backed up and be at the three-yard line now and expect to, you know what I'm saying, do everything it's supposed to do.

So I think that I just, I think there's a time for us to switch at quarterback for the Browns, just give us a spark, do something, something different. I'm Shador, but if Dylan Gabriel's number two and he's number three, I don't care. Put somebody else out there. Let's see what they can do. Yeah, yeah. I think it's, like you said, you got to go to the two.

You can't just jump to the three. But I think now, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody wants to do it. I understand that. But they can't just jump from the one to the three, you know what I'm saying? They got a process that they would, you know, need to go through. I'm just emotional. Yeah, you're very emotional, you know, for a guy who's team one.

I got two teams. I'm emotional because it still is they did. Did you hear my first thing? Yeah, yeah, I heard you. You said a lot of things, man. You'd be double-talking, man. Let's get over here to Baltimore. Man, I know you happy about that, man.

What are you happy about that Baltimore-Kin City game. You know what, though, at the end of the day, I am happy that the Ravens are losing, you know, right now, especially when we want the Steelers and Browns. in our division. I just feel bad for Lamar because he's now, I mean, once he went out the game, obviously they didn't have a chance. Yeah, that wasn't too late, though, but even when he didn't. I know, but I'm saying, still, still, still, still, even with him in there,

the Ravens team is not, the defense is terrible. The defense is playing terrible and they're getting injuries. The best player that was balling out there is my man, the corner of Wiggins, and he just went down and got hurt. Lamar Jackson with a hamstring injury. there's just so many guys out there that are hurt and are, I don't think they're performing that way. Oh, they aren't.

So on the defensive side of the ball. Right, right. I mean, they came out that first drive and they, you know, looked like they was about to do their thing, you know, looked like it was little resistance, went down there, and I'm like, okay. And then Kansas City proceeds to do, what, 20 unanswered? The next possession, they get a field goal.

They still get, the only reason they get, the field goal is because in that drive, they had a couple drops for passes that dudes, you know, they could have actually, you know, held on to and continued to drive. Marr, you know, he gets his first pick. Again, Kansas City, they

go another, I think it's 12, 13 plays, get another field goal. Then five plays, a touchdown. You know, I don't. No, Kansas City, their drive, they only, they had two, their first two drives

with field goals. And after that, it was just, it was TDs. Oh, no question. It was T. And then the Ravens went on forward on fourth down. Don't get it. They turn it over on downs. They give Kansas City the short field.

Six plays later, we got another tutty. Going forward on fourth down, too, and he threw the ball away on fourth down. Like, these are things I'm not getting it. You don't have a, it's fourth down. You got to give somebody a chance. You don't do nothing, but throw that thing all the way to the back at the safety. Give yourself an opportunity to get more. field something something make it a make it a punt like throw it deep deep you know what

saying because at the end of the ball from that right there you know what I'm saying so nothing worse can happen and then pick six in it but like throw it deep high something yeah give somebody somebody go be one of them db is going to be thirsty and try and grab onto that thing for sure not realizing you just went ahead did a did an interception punt you know what I'm going to pick that I'm going to pick that one thousand no question no db is going to nobody going to bat that boy Yeah, then after they do the six-play touchdown drive Lamar, he fumbles the rock, but they got a break. Kansas City missed the field goal. So they went on ahead.

They actually, you know, took advantage of that one. They went on ahead and made it 10-20 then. But their first drive was good when they scored, and then their last drive going in the halftime. They got a field goal. Those were the two best that they got right there. Yeah, and then the second half was just basically more the same, you know. with Kansas City. I think the Ravens got a field goal early there.

And then from there, Lamar ended up. Kansas City came out of halftime and scored. Yeah. It was like I said, it was more of the same, you know, from the first half. But Lamar, once Lamar got hurt, you know, that was really it, man. When they put Russia in and he did the same thing, he looked like he was scared as hell out there. his first series that he did you saw he threw

the ball away on fourth down too Oh he threw it all the way away Yeah I'm like brodie He thought he thought he had another down or something I don't know what that was Yeah because then he stood there like Like it was a fifth down I'm like no go to the sideline you're out

You know what I'm saying like You should bowed out He's standing there like Like his fifth down I'm like what are you doing You were nervous out Yeah the Ravens they got They got some

Now you got Lamar hurt, which was the only thing that really kept you in the fight in any of these games because the defense is trash, okay? And now that they're missing six starters, they super trash, okay? Bro. Like, the offense, they made like they couldn't even run the ball no more. Like, they only handed the ball a total of 10 times in the first half, bro, And five of those was Lamar. Yeah.

I couldn't, they said, they gave a stat where in the first, in like the last eight quarters, it was during like the second quarter of that game, Derek Henry only carried the ball like eight times, eight to ten times in the last six quarters. Like a lot of that time they were down. So, you know, that they- I understand, but a lot of the time that they were down,

they had a lot of time to try and come back. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like they were super. I'm with you. I'm saying, I don't think they need to, They need to use him. Oh, yeah. I know he's fumbling, but if you're not going to use him

and you're just going to do what you've been doing, you might as well let that man go. Cut him, do something because you ain't using him. You're paying him a whole bunch of money. Like, we're going to have to work through this. He's going to have to figure this whole ball security thing out. Like, we can't have you sitting on the sideline and not know what you can do.

We just need you to hold on to the rock. Yeah. The worst thing that could have possibly happened, though, to the rate was the only reason why anything is still going semi-possible good is because of Lamar Jackson. They do have him on the team and they know that he can be able to try to make things shake. If he's hurt...

He's hurt. He's out. For how long is he out? That hamstring, you know, you come back too early. You ain't nothing but one too hard of a takeoff trying to, you know, open up away from pulling that thing again. So how long do they let him sit out? Until he 100, till he 80, till he 85, till he 90?

Like, what you do? He's a running quarterback. So you're going to have to make sure, you get him as healthy as possible because if you go out there and you re-injured something that's already injured, you know it's going to be worse. It's going to be longer.

Oh, for sure. I mean, look, is his interest is making sure that he's healthy and returns at 100% so he can always, he has a long career left and he must be able to play

as long as he can and then it's going to be what is the Raven's interest because you got my man rush out there looking like he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. So they're going to be like

if you're going to be losing games until Lamar like we need you back quick because from my perspective it doesn't look too good for the Ravens that doesn't look like the defense they're continuing to lose players and they're just not playing well so if they lose Lamar and their defense is not playing well they're continuing to lose better players like Wiggins is not there's no I don't see a plan for them to get any better right now so from our last question that we had about is their window closing yes Well, now the window is definitely closing. It's looking crazy.

Like, they're not getting healthier. The players that you do, they aren't performing. And even when they were there, the defense was still doing some boo-boo, man. You got Lamar, he doesn't suffer the hamstring. Baltimore is one and three for the first time since 2015. Two games behind. Guess who? My still is in the AMC.

R still a star. I keep saying mine. I'm sorry about that, man. Or are still. Our Steelers, our Steelers, our Steelers. I got you. We, we, we, we, we, we. The Reven's defense is allowing 33.3 points per game, dude.

That's the worst. In the NFL right now, bro. You can't win like that. Like, like, what's your move? What's your move? What's your next move? Like, what are you going to do? do over there. Hardball, what's you going to do? You are ball. Tell me what you're going to do.

I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't look. I don't know the answer. I don't know the answer sway. I don't know. Because like, yeah, that's what he getting paid to big bucks. But like, health-wise, you just got to have, I mean, they're not making tackles. Like, it just doesn't look like good brand of defense at all. You know what I'm saying? Like, are people in their right positions? people are missing tackles, people are blowing coverages. Like, I mean, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, Kansas City now, they also got, they got, they got, they got, they got, they got, they got, they had their biggest scoring day in more than two years, man. Is it, you think, you think, you think Casey back? This is what I'm saying.

I think they just need. They never, they, they ain't gone nowhere. You got Patty Mahomes. He's standing upright. with Andy Reed. You know what I'm saying? They got Chris Jones on defense. My man, 22 on the corner is balling.

They have a good defense. You know what I'm saying? They may not be one of the best in the league, but they're very, very opportunistic. You know what I'm saying? They're not just people running Scott free. So them playing, them playing,

when you had Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns, what he normally does. This is just execution. This is just great quarterback play, being able to get everybody involved.

Thorhill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelsey, being able to be able to use your run game, even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off. So sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there. So I think that the chiefs,

they've been in, they've been playing football for so long. Patrick Mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it. They're trying to get their team together. He's going to get everybody involved. They didn't have a lot of their rice still is. there. They lost worthy first game of the season. So they still just trying to pluck and play and figure it out, but they know it's a long

season. And as long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, they're always going to have a chance. So them just being able to show, like, him still being able to get it to all these receivers, guys getting back into the group, juju, you know what I'm saying, being, like, just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that can make play, you got to have, you got to have receivers that can catch the ball. I don't, I don't care how, you know, how great they are at doing everything else, as long as they could catch the ball, he's going to get it to him.

They secure that ball, he's going to get it to him. Like, it's almost like a, you know, like a Tom Brady, you know what I'm saying, where you get the receiver,

long as he can catch, you're going to be able to move to rock. It don't matter. And the one thing I, go ahead, I said, and the thing, too, with them was they were still,

they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for him. They were handing it to Bacheco, giving it to hunt. You know what I'm saying? Like, they may not have been getting the most yards, but just still having that. You got to keep a minus. You can't have them sitting there pinning their ears back, you know. You know, they got a few runs here and there that made them be like, okay, they'll run the ball.

So we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off upfield, leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people can slide through. Yep. Yep. So, yeah, the chiefs, man, they just have a. full they have a they have a good team they've been here before you know what i'm saying they're they're tried and tested they've been deep in the playoff runs they made real runs they know what it takes to win they know how long the season is so i just love seeing them just knowing it's early we still

trying to get better they're getting better they're going in the trajectory of this getting players back people not getting hurt you know what i'm saying people returning not just people going away so i think their trajectory is going up when you're looking at the ravens the opposite just people going down, defense not playing too well. It's not looking good on that side. But on the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying, work while the season's going.

Speaking of work, we ain't had no defense out there with Green Bay and Dallas, man. No, sir. 40 to 40, tie. That's like, that's worse, man. What's the time? Like, I mean, I understand that I don't want guys playing, you know, long and deep.

Yeah, all that extra and especially. you know, when it's a regular season game, you know, you don't have the same rules in the playoffs, but a tie is like going out there and you just did all that for nothing. Like, I want to give me a loss or a win. Like, we got to figure out a way. Don't college, like, shorten the field and had you at like the 20 or something. Yeah, the 20. Let's do that for, you know, whatever that time frame is or until some.

somebody don't score a touchdown, like, or a field goal. Yeah. You know? When you walk in a stadium, you plan to walk out with the, did I win or did I lose? You know what's so crazy, though? It's 20-25. I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie. I swear, dude.

Like, that's what I felt like, man. I knew, I knew Dallas, you know, they weren't going to play no. defense. I didn't know Green Bay wasn't going to show up. They're supposed to be a top 10 defense. I believe they're number eight. They only given up about 280 yards, 285 yards a game,

75 rushing, another 205 passing, and you let Dallas go out here for 117 rushing, almost 320 passing. You gave up almost 500 yards of total offense, and that bust your head

31 of 40 3 tugs Only got sat once 319 yards He did the whole total of which y'all give up And passing by itself Oh yeah that kind of field day That had a field day

He went crazy and my man Shout out George Pickings too Oh no question we already knew what that was though Oh He woke up and he had to slide into the number one since CD went So you know he was going to get them options he was going to get a lot more opportunities. And that dude is a number one.

He showed that he could do it sometimes. You know, just a little bit of, he had a little dropsy sometimes. But that game right there, he spazzed and he showed how he can ball. I was a little, I was definitely surprised with the Packers' defense. Yes. Them dudes, they've been getting after people. Listen, listen, they've been getting after people. I'll give them that.

But since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated. nobody okay now you let dallas do this while they missing two of they starting linemen and they receiver did no cd and put up a 40 piece on you is actually crazy and they and i know they was geek too michael parsons didn't get no he got one sack overtime he didn't get no ah got one sack and overtime but too little too late like like i mean If he didn't get it, I think Dak would have scored, though. He would have scored that touchdown, though. But, oh, he needed to do it.

I don't, yeah. I don't know what, what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball. I understand Dallas, that's just what they go do. You know, they're dead last, I think, in defense now. It's understandable. It's understandable. I think they might average giving up over 400. 20 yards a game, something like that.

So, yeah, I just didn't see, I just didn't see, I just didn't see this happening with the defense, not just not showing up at all. I expected, I mean, I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of points. I would not expect the Packers defense to give up this many points. Yeah, I thought it was going to be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the, with the Packers, you know, scoring. You know what I'm saying? Because nope, that wasn't the case. That went out there hooped. He only like, like you said, eight and complete passes, man, that was amazing.

And George was getting off. Yeah, it's out of control, though. Dallas giving up over 420 yards a game, bro. Yeah, that's not going to win games. And I think in the second, it's big plays. It's huge plays. I think Green Bay gave up more yards. than Dallas this game, bro.

I think Green Bay gave up, like, 4-89, something like that. Like, and I think Dallas gave up, like, maybe 4-30-something. I mean, they gave up a little above their average, but, you know, they was on cue. We knew what they was going to do. I just think that when I look at, yeah, they still gave a bunch of yards, but when I look at Dallas's defense,

I just need to, I just don't see, I don't see effort, which is what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying? I think maybe with the, with the Packers, the effort maybe be there. You know what I'm saying? They just got to do, that just was a bad game. I just see, when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball. Like they want to, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

I guess I was wrong, buddy. They gave up four, Dallas gave up the 489, Green Bay gave up the 436. Correction. Yeah, that's right. That's by $100. Yeah, they gave away more than the average. But, too, dude, Green Bay gave up almost 150, 170 yards more.

Like, that's how to get you to Dallas, of all people. Like, come on, man. Without their number, without almost half your start no line and CD. Yeah. We're going to see what's going on with them. They got to do better. But you know, we're going to talk about.

Two. What you got? The Giants. Okay. How you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers? Well, the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Neighbors towards ACL. Yeah, that was bad. That?

Yeah. The Giants. What do you think? Listen, I think it was another one of those situations where, you know, the other team coming in there, I believe they was playing at home, you know, and then you thinking you go get something that you don't get the rookie's first game. I think it's going to be a cake walk and they ain't realized that this boy came out. Mahomes, he's standing upright with Andy Reid.

You know what I'm saying? They got Chris Jones on defense. My man, 22 on the corner is balling. They have a good defense. You know what I'm saying? They may not be one of the best in the league, but they're very, very opportunistic. You know what I'm saying? They're not just people running scot-free.

So them playing, when you had Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns, what you normally does. This is just execution. This is just great quarterback play. Being able to get everybody involved. Thorhill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelsey, being able to use your run game,

even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off. So sometimes there is one-on-one coverages back there. So I think that the Chiefs, they've been in, they've been playing football for so long. Patrick Mahomes is such a great quarterback. that he's not worried about it.

They're trying to get their team together. He's going to get everybody involved. They didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there. They lost worthy first game of the season. So they still just trying to pluck and play and figure it out, but they know it's a long season. And as long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, they're always going to have a chance.

So them just being able to show, like, him still being able to get it to all these receivers, guys getting back into the group, juju, you know what I'm saying, being, like just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that can make. say that you got to have receivers that can catch the ball i don't i don't care how you know how how great they are at doing everything else as long as they could catch the ball he's going to get it to him they secure that ball he's going to get it to him like it's it's it's it's almost like

a you know like like a tom brady you know what i'm saying where you you get the receiver long as he can catch you're going to be able to move to rock it don't matter and the one thing i I said, and the thing, too, with them was they were still, they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for them. They were handed it to Bacheco, giving it to hunt. You know what I'm saying? Like, they might not have been getting the most yards, but just still having that. You got to keep a minus.

You can't have them sitting there pinning their ears back, you know. You know, they got a few runs here and there that made them be like, okay, they'll run the ball, so we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off upfield, leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people. people can slide through. Yep. Yep.

So, yeah, the chiefs, man, they just have a full, they have a, they have a good team. They've been here before. You know what I'm saying? They're tried and tested. They've been deep in the playoff runs. They've made real runs. They know what it takes to win.

They know how long the season is. So I just love seeing them just knowing it's early. We're still trying to get better. They're getting better. They're going in the trajectory of this. Getting players back. People not getting hurt. You know what I'm saying?

People returning. not just people going away. So I think their trajectory is going up when you're looking at the Ravens, the opposite. Just people going down, defense not playing too well. It's not looking good on that side. But on the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying,

work while the season's going. Speaking of work, we ain't had no defense out there with Green Bay and Dallas, man. No, sir. 40 to 40, tie. That's like, that's worse, man. What's good with a tie? Like, I mean, I understand that I don't want guys playing, you know, long and deep, yeah, all that extra.

And especially, you know, when it's a regular season game, you know, you don't have the same rules in the playoffs. But a tie is, like, going out there and you just did all that for nothing. Like, I want to give me a loss or a win. Like, we got to figure out a way. Don't college, like, shorten the field and had you at, like, the 20 or something. Yeah, at the 20. Let's do that for, you know, whatever that time frame is or until somebody don't score a touchdown, like, or a field goal.

Yeah. You know? When you walk in a stadium, you plan to walk out with the, did I win or did I lose? You know what I'm definitely going to have to draw? It's 2025. I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie. I swear, dude. Like, that's what I felt like, man.

I knew Dallas, you know, they weren't going to play no defense. I didn't know Green Bay wouldn't go show up. They're supposed to be a top 10 defense. I believe they're number eight. They only given up about 280 yards, 285 yards a game, 75 rushing, another 205 passing. And you let Dallas go out here for 117 rushing, almost 320. passing, you gave up almost 500 yards of total offense

and that bust your head, 31 or 40, three tugs, only got sat once 319 yards. He did the whole total of which y'all give up and passing

by itself. Oh yeah, Dak had a field day. That kind of field day. He went crazy and my man, shout out George Pickens. Oh, no question. We already knew what that was, though. both he woke up and he's had to slide into the number one since CD went so you know he was going to get them options he was going to get a lot more opportunities and that dude is a number one he showed that he could do it sometimes you know it just a little bit of little he had a little dropsy

sometimes but that game right there he spaz and he showed how how he can ball i was a little so i was definitely surprised with the packers defense them dudes they've been getting after people listen listen they've been getting after people i'll i'll give them that but Since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody, okay? Now, you let Dallas do this while they're missing, two of their starting linemen and their receiver. There, no CD.

And put up a 40 piece on you is actually crazy. And I know they was geek too. Michael Parsons didn't get no sacks. He got one sack overtime. He didn't get no. That one sack and overtime. But too little too late. Like, I mean, if he didn't get it, I think Dak would have scored, though.

He would have scored that touchdown, though. But. Oh, he needed to do that. I don't, yeah. I don't know what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball. I understand Dallas, that's just what they go do. You know, they're dead last, I think, in defense now. It's understood.

It's understandable. I think they might average giving up over 420 yards a game, something like that. So, yeah, I just didn't see, I just didn't see, I just didn't see this happening with the defense, not just not showing up at all. I expected, I mean, I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of defense. Yes.

I would not expect the impact of defense. to give up this many points. Yeah, I thought it was going to be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the Packers, you know, scoring. You know what I'm saying? Because, nope, that wasn't the case. That went out there hooped.

He only, like you said, eight and complete passes, man. That was amazing. And George was getting off. Yeah, it's out of control, though. Dallas giving up over 420 yards a game, bro. Yeah, that's not going to win games. And I think in the second, it's big plays, it's huge plays.

Dude, I think Green Bay gave up more yardists than Dallas this game, bro. I think Green Bay gave up, like, 4-89, something like that. Like, and I think Dallas gave up, like, maybe 4.30-something. I mean, they gave up a little above their average, but, you know, they was on Q. We knew what they was going to do. I just think that, well, I, I, When I look at, yeah, they still gave a bunch of yards. But when I look at Dallas's defense, I just need to, I just don't see,

I don't see effort, which is what makes me feel like. You know what I'm saying? I think maybe with the, with the Packers, the effort maybe be there. You know what I'm saying? They just got to do, that just, that just was a bad game. I just see, when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball, like they want to, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

I guess I was wrong, buddy. They gave up four Dallas games. up the 489 green bay gave up the 436 correction yeah that's about that's 500 yeah they gave a way more than the average but too dude green bay gave up almost 150 hundred 70 yards more like that's that's how to get to to dallas of all people like come on man without their number without without almost half your start no line and cd Yeah, we're going to see what's going on with them. They got to do better.

But you know what we're going to talk about, too? What you got. The Giants? Okay. How you feel about the Giants beating the Chargers? Well, the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Neighbors towards ACL. Yeah, that was bad. That?

Yeah. The Giants. What do you think? Listen, I think it was another one of those situations where, you know, the other team coming in there, I believe they was playing. at home, you know, and then you're thinking you go get something that you don't get the rookie's first game starting. They're thinking it's going to be a cake walk and they ain't realized that this boy came out.

Go ahead and give everybody to juke jerk and all the other stuff and they're not, they're not set up like that. But I think he'll do decent. I think you got to give him, you know, a year or two, maybe maybe three to. actually be able to, you know, get used to or spread his wings and keep going. But from what I just saw, I think he's going to be all right. I don't, I don't, and I'm not saying he's about to go out here and, you know, tear the league up. But I think, I think he'll be all right, middle of the pack.

He was giving me Bo Nix vibes a little bit, man. I'm not going to lie. And that's not a bad thing because Bo Nix has been doing good for the Broncos and nobody really expected him to be what he is and they're winning games. and I'm not mad at him at all. So from Jackson Dart, he was giving me a little bit of bow next to what he first did. Hey, he first came in.

Nobody really knew what to expect and use his legs, being able to not mess it up. Don't turn the ball over. You know what I'm saying? Extend some plays. So it looked good. It looked good.

Yeah, let's go down south, man. Tampa and Philly. That at $1.25. That game was not really as close as the score says. I think the egos just basically, dominated the first half come out in and special teams start off what they did last week they block a punt and run it in you know for for a touchdown like that that started the game off like that that's yeah that's not what you're looking for man and something else too was like

philly's like actual first possession dude it was like six seven past plays i think it was only one run, and they scored the touchdown, it's 14-0. Like, Tampa Bay, you know, if they didn't get the 15-yard personal file, the next thing, you know, that's what allowed them to score the field goal that they got, like, their next possession. So I think it's, you know, back and forth, they start doing a little punt here. but again the punt dude does is short he basically shanks the punt and he gives him a short feel they come out pass heavy again letting y'all know like yo hers can do this we he that he he that dude you know 21 to 3 immediately you know what I'm saying it's the Eagles bro that that's that's

what I'm saying well you don't have to get that many it doesn't matter how you're scoring. It doesn't matter. It might not look too good. The stats might not be as big. But you have 21-3 and you ain't really did nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not Jaila Hertz's bad.

That's not nobody's bad. That's just a good team. I be up 21-3. It don't matter what they ended up going to, what, 20-4-3. Philly ended up coming back out, like, 14-play drive, ended up settling for a field goal. But, again, like, that's, like, they're basically, in control from the jump.

It wasn't really anything that Tampa had did in the first half, except for kick a 65-yard field goal to make it like six to 24. And hell, the first half, dude, Hertz was, I think he only missed one pass. They only had one incompletion. Tampa only had 100 yards of all. No, 99 yards of offense, bro. They had 99 yards of offense. Like, the first half was just, I think it was, it just came down to being,

too much for them to to overcome. Tampa's, I'm not Tampa, but Philly's defense, dude, they contested everything. They was tackling everything,

shoring up tackles. Dude, catch the ball, boom, you know, they tackling them as soon as they get it. That whole,

like, I'm like, wow, they ain't going to be a, they ain't getting no yet. They ain't going to get nothing out that. Yep. No,

the Eagles, that's the Eagles defense, They play with passion. They swam to the ball. They was able to get after. So, like, that's, they're great. They're a good team. And, like, when he threw for two touchdowns, 15 for 24, my man, Jalen Hertz, two touchdowns, zero picks.

It's not going to wow you. It's not going to wow you. It's not going to wow it's when they win the game and they're able to walk out of the stadium again, like, continuing to win. So it may not be that precedent. I think that's why at the end of the day, too, when eight, how do you, So let's get, the Eagles win, all that. A.J. Brown at the end of the day with his tweets. You know what I'm saying?

I don't understand that tweet. I don't know what it means. What is it in reference to? I feel like, what is it say? If you're not welcome, not listen to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders, and be on your way. He's trying to basically say, like, for me reading it in, he's trying to say he's feeling out welcome not listen to he wants the ball but if nobody's

listening to him he's just shrugging his shoulders and he's going about his way but i'm like that's just it's it's it's a receiver that wants to get the ball and wants to it's a receiver that wants the ball period well i mean you're not really doing that if that's why you're tweeting it out you're actually telling everybody you're not just shrugging your shoulders and walking away you're right i know I know, you're making a scene by tweeting it out. If you weren't just say anything and you could just do this like at the end of the year,

anything you tweet is going to, that's basically you saying. Yeah, you just contradicted everything. Everything you said contradicted what you was saying, like, or what you was thinking. I don't know. It's a contradiction. It's a thing, Debo, you know how I mean.

You just, yeah, that's exactly what it is. So when we was, like, you just, when you're playing and you feel you want to get, I don't know. This isn't the right way to do it, but it's just like the players, when you do tweet something about this, you know exactly what you're doing.

Everybody's going to talk about it. And then you go tweet at Twitter. That's not, I don't, that's not you sitting back and just doing nothing, man. Speaking of a frustration, man, Ken Ward, he said, Hey, he kept it a bean, didn't he? All the way of being, dude.

He was, he was a little, he was a little frustrated. man. You think he was, he was too honest? Like, you think it was, let's take a listen to it so you can hear exactly what he said, man. I mean, we're keeping a buck right now. We ask. So we owe and four. We have, at this point, we got nothing to lose. We dropped a quarter of our games, and we've yet to do anything. So we have to lock in, especially myself, on the offensive line, from the defense line, from the special teams to all three faces, we have to play together.

We have not played together this year yet. And that's just something that, you know, we want to. preach about it every day, every day we got to do better and we're doing that, but it has to show up on Sundays. It hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week. Where do you think, Joe? Hey, bro. This all of us say,

he kept that shit 1,000. If you want to ask him how he feels on that in a particular moment, I really feels like he felt his way. 100%. We're playing like ass. And I'm the quarterback of this team. I'm like ass so offensive line

defense line we preach this like we got to play to a certain standard and we want to be good but like end of the day I'm not mad of him for saying this but sometimes you got to get it off your chest he didn't go to Twitter he said a lie right there no he's sitting right in front of you I'm gonna let you get it this is this is what it is

this is how I feel I ain't go throw out no cryptics and all that this is what it is we're playing like trash I'm playing I'm playing like track everybody need to get this together we asked and something got to be done, we need to get it done.

I have absolutely zero problems with that. We lost a quarter of our games. Already ready, have zero problems with that. Look here, man. Zero. We want to thank y'all for joining us. We've got to get out of here. We're out of time.

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