Club Shay Shay - Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 1 - AD Mitchell, Jay Glazer & Kirk Herbstreit join!

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden LIVE from San Francisco Radio Row ahead of Super Bowl LX featuring Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks vs. Drake Maye and the New England Patriot...s. Deebo & Joe are joined by Jay Glazer, Adonai Mitchell, Kirk Herbstreit, and much more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Stygots here. I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to IHeart, and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern called Stegots & Company Live, which is available in podcast form, right when the show finishes every single day. You can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls, and a lot of fun. Listen to Stugats & Company Live and our original podcast, Stugats and Cocton.
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Starting point is 00:01:09 or simply wherever you get your podcast. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car,
Starting point is 00:01:25 you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? They gave her some suggestions. to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to Mind Games on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas,
Starting point is 00:02:01 singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host James Debo Harrison.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Yes, sir. Look here, baby. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download the show wherever you get your podcast. I'm a mute this so y'all can't hear me. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Look here, man. We live from Radio Roe here at Super Bowl 60. Yes, sir. Joe? What's up, Debo? How are you doing anything? I'm doing great, brother. Doing great.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I'm not too sore from yesterday. Great workout, you know, not too crazy. A little core, a little... The cardio was crazy. I was thinking before we went out there, you said we got an hour on the treadmill. And I'm like, there's no way I can do an hour on a treadmill no matter what. Elevation, the miles an hour, heart rate was going, but I knew I could do it because I wasn't going to let myself down from doing a treadmill walk with you. No question, brother.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It was good work, good work. How did you feel, though? I felt great. I felt great. The great sweat, great everything, brother. I felt amazing. Core is good, looking good, feeling good. Great core workout, too.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But that's what I'm trying to. My hips are a little tight. You saw the little drill when I'm kicking my legs up, that hip bag. It was talking about how you kicking that leg in. Tell them what's going on. I got a hip impingement, Debo. And it's been happening for a while. I need to get rehab wanting some treatment.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But, yeah, my hip flexes are just a little too tight. Okay. I got to loosen them up. I'm going to get some treatment, get some rehab. Got to get the dry needling. I understand. You have a good time last night? We had Shannon's party.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yes, yes, yes. Shea party was dope. Got to see a lot of friends. Stephen Ney was there. T.J. Ward. Richard Sherman, running in the dudes is always, always a good time. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I ran into a couple people. But it's kind of hard to talk to people there. Like, they're in your ear. You can't really hear it. You can't really hear. You can't really hear. So. Oh, yeah, because I get into the mic.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I'm going to scoot up closer. Yeah, get in there, deep boat. Because you don't know we can hear you. They're saying they can't hear us. They're saying they can't hear us. Can you hear us now? Can you hear us now? Good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:04:30 All right. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? All right. So we got that. We did that. Hey, what time did you get out of there, though? That's time I get out of the park.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I saw you make the Irish exit. You ain't say by to nobody. I thought you was going to the bathroom, and then you just slid. So you probably left around 11.30. I was there probably 20, 20 more minutes after. I got out there tonight. I ain't stay out too late. Midnight, midnight.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Because we had to be up here shooting. This is 8 o'clock. This is 8 o'clock shoot waking up 6 o'clock in the morning. It's different than back on the East Coast. Yeah, yeah, for sure. man, I got out of here. I looked at my clock. It was 10.59.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I told somebody, I said, we're about to be out of here at 11. As soon as it clicked 11. I said, hey, it's time to go. By the time I looked down, got everything going, you know. It was 11-11. I was out the door. Great time. 11-11.
Starting point is 00:05:24 11-11. You was out of there. 11-11. What time was you sleep? That I don't know because I was contemplating. Should I go and get up? Yeah, go ahead. I got you.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah, so should I go Get up And try and keep my East Coast time Because you're still in that clock Did you change your clock? Did you change the clock yet? I had to do you still, okay, okay
Starting point is 00:05:51 That one o'clock get up You was getting them at one o'clock that's crazy That one o'clock get up kind of hurt Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Especially, you know, when you had me out All night eating, you know what I'm saying? Like, then that sets back my 16 hours
Starting point is 00:06:04 Where I need to fast and, you know, get my body to adjust to start burners and stuff. Okay, no, for sure. So, my bad. My bad throwing off your schedule. Yeah, you threw all my schedule. That's all right, though.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That's all good. That's all right. That's all right. What about the video, though, about your man throwing all of the water on your driveway? I couldn't believe when you posted it. I thought it was fake. I thought it was like, no.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I know those are your type waters because, you know, when we got here, we went to the grocery store and you got 30 gallons of water. No, I wouldn't nothing but like three, four cases. Man, a liter and a half cases. You're hydrated, man. I'm hydrated. But your man, disrespected.
Starting point is 00:06:37 He was throwing them drugs all over your damn doorstep. Listen. What's good with him? They got to be playing. You got to play that. You got to show the video. Got to show the video. Amazon, man.
Starting point is 00:06:47 He was a little upset that I ordered what was it. Five cases of water. Yes. I mean, it's cheaper on there. That's why you order it on there. And he said, that's one thing that gets me, too. You're supposed to be delivering the stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You bagged it in and you just throwing it all on your doorstep. Dropping it hard, too. Disrespected. Disrespect. It's driving it hard, too. Disrespect with me. Hit me with the C.U. Next Tuesday, too.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You know what I'm saying? What do you say? But I don't think, I don't think he know. Because, you know, I had my packages dropped in different names. I never put my name in the package. Yeah, it don't say James Harrison. No, no, it don't say that. That doesn't say, like, Rob.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Rob. He got, it got some, we got some felonious, like, okay. Respect. Out of control names, you know what I'm saying? So, he came and he dropped the first two. And he really wasn't that. upset about the first two but the next two
Starting point is 00:07:38 he dropped yeah he was like just yeah yeah just order all the fucking orders why don't you why don't you yeah yeah let's fucking do it he's like oh bad and then dude the last one though that he dropped dude oh he was
Starting point is 00:07:53 yeah he was hot about that he left with the he left with the see you next Tuesday oh he's pissed he by oh dude now you're gonna order more though yeah I'm gonna order 10 next time hey to the amazon driver out there that dropped the water at my house Listen
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'm going to order 10 cases for you next time So get yourself in the wait room You're going to have a lot of work to do What y'all want me to do You want me to drop this mic or something You want me to lift the mic what you want It's close?
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's close or too close Okay Man I got to have my mic My life so close to it. Y'all need to get some better mics What you mean? Tilt it down Two down like that That good That cool
Starting point is 00:08:39 Up a little more There you go Here perfect Perfect Listen So look here Yeah, man Yes brother
Starting point is 00:08:47 I just got a I just got a phone call right Mm-hmm From From my son Okay All right Is everything okay
Starting point is 00:08:55 Everything okay He had He got into a little A little altercation You know what I ain't even go Get it making Making me hot No no don't
Starting point is 00:09:03 No no Diva Let's just I want to find out Who his daddy is So I go see him I want to find out who the kid He had the issue Well I'll find out who his daddy is
Starting point is 00:09:10 Because that ain't something that you know When you do something like that That's something you don't You either got from your friends Or you don't learned at home You know what I'm saying And you go ahead And you regurgitate that shit
Starting point is 00:09:21 You know? Okay You know I don't want you to get Don't get too mad right now Though I know You can be held accountable For sure
Starting point is 00:09:28 You can't just get away With doing stuff for no reason There's consequences And then it upset me And then it upset me It's like He didn't follow My son and followed pro
Starting point is 00:09:36 protocol. The protocol is they touch you. Oh, he put his hands on your son first. Brud, you touch, you touch, you touch. Keep your hands to yourself. Then after that, I don't stop. You're going to tell somebody pulled me off. He ain't filed a protocol. Okay, because you was a little hot at your son.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm hot in the whole situation. You had the whole situation. Whole situation. I'm hot. I am hot. I ain't gonna lie. I'm hot. I'm hot. Don't let me let get to you, brother. I ain't go lie, I'm going to be all right. You're supposed to, like, I'm supposed to be getting a car.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like, hey. You know, he need a lawyer or something. You know what I'm saying? He put hands on my son and he wouldn't. It took five teachers to get him up off of him or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to learn this repercussions and consequences to it, man. To your action.
Starting point is 00:10:17 To your action. Repetuses and consequences out here, Joe, man. I just don't, I don't understand it, man. What's good? Dibo. Right. Go ahead. I'm going to switch.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I'm switching. I need your energy to get right because I know you're getting mad by the son and all that. But, you know, he's going to be good. He's going to be good. We out here, Radio Row, Super Bowl Week, feeling good, hanging out. Yesterday was a great time. Last night was a great time.
Starting point is 00:10:44 What was your best part of the party? Your favorite part of the party? My favorite part of the party. Yes. Listen. The music was... Music was good. Music was good.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I had a good time. I mean, our conversation with Stephen A was lit. I had a good time when we were talking when we chopped it up with Stephen A. Yeah, yeah. I told you. You did what it is. It is what it is. He gets it.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah, for sure. You get you, you get you. You'd be surprised at what you know, but you don't know, but you know. Just from reading in between the lines, you feel me? If you know, you know. Okay, there we go. Oh my, we got, we got our good man, Jay. Mr. Jay.
Starting point is 00:11:21 How you doing, man? Too bad to see you, man. How you doing, baby? Doing good. You know it. Yes, sir. Welcome, Jay. What's cracking?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Man, nothing much, nothing much. Might a lot out of this up here, no? Yes, for sure. I don't know why you're doing it. I don't know why you ain't. You put whatever you want, Jay. It's on you. It's your word.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You know where the sponsors are. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I ain't seem to check from them, but I guess it's our sponsor. Maybe I'll get you guys paid down for that. You put whatever you want up there, Jay. Hey, man, we want to thank you for joining us here. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:54 We know you've been doing what you've been doing for a long time and you are. 93. Yes, yes. No, 91 was my first draft. Draft? Yeah. Yeah, 91. How about that?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Joe wasn't even born. Yes, I was. I was two. It was two of 89, Jay. That's crazy. Actually, in that draft, I was, like, I was rolling around, you know, Joe and his, like, little crib and stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, I like that. I like that. A little carriage. I have my baby, my diaper and my diaper. Oh, no. Yeah, you know, you had a long time to build great relationships here. Yeah, no doubt. So.
Starting point is 00:12:28 That's what it's about, man, relationships, you know? Everybody tries to go for the scoop instead of the relationship. Exactly. They get it wrong. Yeah, yeah. Why is that that you're, you know, you're okay with waiting to get the story out correct instead of trying to go ahead and jump there and be the first one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 You know, when I started covering the Giants in 93, I walked in that giant locker room and I'm like, man, how could I be different? I had no education. I got kicked out of my first college. Okay. I had like no education, no experience, but I'm like, how could I be different? Well, one thing I can do is I'm always looking at fight. You know, so I'm like, all right, if these guys work 40 hours a week, I'll work 100.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Just nonstop, nonstop, nonstop. But also I look and said, man, how can I be different? I think these guys all use their pen as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships. And look, we're just in sports, man. I'm not covering the Middle East. I take ourselves too seriously, right? So I started relationships.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And my best friend, obviously, since day one was my baby sister, Michael Strayant, you know. And that was out of the gate, right? And it's funny because back then I was making $9,400 a year. And I didn't have enough money. I was living in New York City. I didn't have enough not in great areas. And I didn't have enough to take subway to a bus to a giant stadium back every day. So Stray drove me back into New York City.
Starting point is 00:13:54 He lived in Jersey every single day from 93 to 99. and the days he didn't, Kurt Menifee did. She's our host, right? Start out. But no doubt, right? And here we are all working together. So I own like 30 a grand Lincoln Tunnel Fair.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Oh, for sure. At least. But back then, too, it was just like these relationships, and you guys have heard me talk a lot about mental health now. And what people never got is I need teams for here
Starting point is 00:14:23 to get the roommates in my head and talk nicely to each other. Yes. You guys were all part of my team. You know, I'll never, forget Dan Quinn, man, probably about eight years ago. I'm at the height. Like, I'm on year four of ballers. I'm hosting the UFC. I'm no more an insider and Fox Annabelle Sunday. And I'm up my training camp tour that I was go to, right? For years, right? You got to see me.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And DQ's like, what are you doing here? I said, what are you mean? It's what I do? He goes, no, what are you doing here? I said, what do you mean? He said, haven't you moved up and on for this? I said, bro, there is no up and on for this. You guys are my male love. You guys in the fight world are my male love. Like there's no up and on for this. That's really where the relationships came from. I always looked at it's like we're on one team, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:08 No, I love that, man, because that's the biggest part when you really build that real genuine friendship. We feel like people are looking out for it. Yeah. And you're that guy. And listen, I've had tough stories and some friends. Like I broke all the Balco stuff. A bunch of my guys were using, you know? And I'm like, hey, you rather I put it out than somebody else.
Starting point is 00:15:26 For sure. I'm going to go right down the middle, you know? Right. What would you say, is there any scoop that you had that somebody kind of like got out right before you that you would kind of... Oh, it happens all the time. Because I wait for Fox Inville Sunday. So like this year it happened a couple times. So like this year I was going to report Brandon Graham was coming out of retirement.
Starting point is 00:15:43 No one knew. And it got out, man, maybe seven minutes before. Because I was, because I go on it at, what time's our show? Nine? Yeah, I think I was going to show nine. Yeah, nine o'clock, right? So it got out like 852. I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But that's what I... Listen, the business has changed. Now what I want to make sure I do is I break stuff on Fox & Annivost Sunday that. Nobody has ever heard. And you will... Man, you're coming out of left field with this. Where I used to do it and the way people do it now is you broke news. Everybody steals it on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I work for Fox, right? And that's not breaking news. That's not being an insight. I said, who could tweet fastest? Well, I can't tweet faster than anybody else. Right? So I'm going to have stuff on that nobody else has. Like a couple weeks ago, you know, Matt Ryan's on the CBS show are opposite us,
Starting point is 00:16:39 and I come on to, hey, the Atlanta Falcons are looking to hire Matt Ryan to be their new president of football operations. That came out of left field. And obviously, that's what's happened, right? So, or I came on with the security report that D.K. Metcalf had filed. I got you. I broke that before you, but you actually went on front. You know what I'm saying? I broke that before you, but you actually went on front.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You know what I'm saying? Go ahead, baby. But that's it. That same show I broke. I had the actual security report that D.K. Mekkaff had filed with the Seahawks about that same fan in Detroit the year before. It had all that, right? So that's stuff that you can't just steal from me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So no matter what on Fox Interpol Sunday, I want to make it must watch the TV. I just knew of it. I ain't had a report. You went into that research. But I know you're real big on the mental health aspect. How do you think about, how do you feel like the professional athletes present like the issues? Do you think there need to be a little bit more open? So, oh, by far.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So it's funny because I go, you know, and you, look, I've trained you in MMA, right? That's right. That's unbreakable, unbreakable. Right. Our whole thing, right, is, man, if you are hurt and tired, you will never, ever, ever know. Right? We will sit there and we'll ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure. And you may get it.
Starting point is 00:17:54 you made it. We're not going to show it. Not going to show it. Not going to show it. And you need that. Unbreakable mindset on a cage and a football field. But now we need a whole other unbreakable mindset off that field, off that cage where you do show. You do chime. You do tell people. And I think it's a scarier world than ever before. Social media makes us all things that our lives suck. We're comparing ourselves to everybody else is filtered, freaking highlight. One second or one day. And we feel so left out. And, or listen, I can. I grew up in a Jersey Shore. When I got my ass kicked in a Jersey Shore growing up, it sucked for a month.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Now you're getting your ass kicked 100 times a minute on X. Yes. You know? Yes. So I think the more you do open up, these, I always say these friendships have become brotherhoods. Like this, she has braces right here. It's my most prized possession. It's given me by Michael Phelps.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Michael's my dude. But now when I have a meltdown, I FaceTime him. It could be horrible. When he has a meltdown, he facetimes me. but this was a promise that he will never quit life. That's a fucking brotherhood. Can I curse on this show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Okay, that's a fucking brotherhood. That's a fucking brotherhood. That's not friend. That's a brotherhood. I will not kill myself. I promise you, I'm in, right? When we get like this, and now we've created this text chain
Starting point is 00:19:14 where all the guys who help me. So the Rock is one of them. He's one. Sean McVeigh is one. The Smasher Machine, who's my training partner, who The Rock just did a movie on Mark Kerr. He's won.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Andrew Whitworth's one. Dan Quinn's one. And when any of us are struggling, we reach out to the group and we're there. When Sean lost the other day, man, we deployed for him. You know, Michael had a really bad meltdown last week. We deployed for him.
Starting point is 00:19:42 We were all there for him. So that's taking our friendships to a much different level. And I think that's, listen, I think if you could be vulnerable and open up, Yes. Those people will be there for you when you're 25, 35, 55, 55, 75, 75. That's it right there. And that's how we're going to survive in this world.
Starting point is 00:20:01 1,000%. So I'm all in and good with the mental health thing, you know, the real issues of many of them. But how much of that mental health now is you think is being overused? Because I think some of it is being overused. Like, you know, I feel unbeat driving to work because it's raining. I get you. I'm feeling nervous and all that. And they're using that.
Starting point is 00:20:21 to get off from being able from having to go into work and everything else. I hear you on that. And like, so my, so I have clinical depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, OCD anxiety, insomnia. Other than that, I'm a model of stability. Yes. I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness in the penalty box by talking to some of our favorite athletes about the importance of friendship.
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Starting point is 00:21:16 I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugats & Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes. every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports. A lot of phone calls. I love you guys this show. It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugatson Company and Stugats and Company Live. So listen to Stugats and Company Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate, and review. Stugats and Company and God bless football, Taylor's livelihood depends on it. it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What if mind control is real? If you can control the behavior of anybody
Starting point is 00:22:14 around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood true.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, NLP, might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the unpurposed podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And also, you know, your daughter is incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little. Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances,
Starting point is 00:23:45 which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musicians, was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was
Starting point is 00:24:03 if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it is hard for me to get out of bed every day of my life. That sickness is what makes me great,
Starting point is 00:24:20 but I'll never miss a day of work. I'll never let that thing win. Ever, ever, ever. I will fight it. Some days it's harder than others. So I get what you're saying, right? I've made a decision where I'm not going to let it beat me, and I'm always going to fight back.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So I hope more people can get like that. But, you know, again, not everybody's made. Yeah, for sure. Look here. Look here. You got the inside scoop. So why, why didn't they really let Bill in there? I'm not on the...
Starting point is 00:24:51 Come on now. You got somebody. I'm not on a committee. You got relationships? You got relationships. You think those cats let me enter a committee? Are you serious? They ain't going to let you win.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Those are the writers aren't going to let me. They'll never let the end. Do you think they should let these writers be the only people that vote on that? No, absolutely not. And I've always said that. Why? No, absolutely. It should be, but it's not now.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Now it's the Tony Dunges and Bill Pollings. But I don't know. It should be. I think it should be a committee of guys that are already in there. Especially like the first ballot guy. I like that idea. Like first ballot guy should vote for first ballot guy. I love that idea.
Starting point is 00:25:24 It shouldn't be these writers who got a score to settle because so-and-so wasn't media-friendly with me. I love that idea. I haven't heard that yet, and I freaking love it. I support that idea. Did you think it was about the gates? Do you think it's just gatekeeping? No, no, please. I think they're using the excuse.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But if he's not in the first ballot, then no coach ever should be in. That's what I'm saying. He's not in, crapping out of the end. I don't know, they might pull the pistol on time and telling me, hold up. That'd be crazy. No, that's not.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I'm just saying. They ain't going to happen. They ain't going to happen. They ain't. I'm trying to tell you. No, no, no. When I went there, I wanted to hate the dude. But I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:26:00 You couldn't, right? He's the best. I couldn't. Dude, I love him. I work with him. I love him. And he works his ass off. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Being a broadcaster, he works his ass off. Yeah. Well, look, I'm going to ask you about Coach T. Right before you get off. How do you think about, well, do you? So, Coach T stepped off from coaching. Do you think he's going to come back to coaching? No, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I think he's going to come back. But that's, I talked to him yesterday two days ago. Right now he's hanging out with Harley. He's having a good time. He's being dead. Perfect. Trying to get himself. shape. He went through a lot in those 19 years, man. He's trying to get himself going again.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Well, Jay, I want to say, real quick. I am here to promote something. I'm going to ask you that. Calbury, which is an ADHD drug, which for all my stuff, I've been on over 35 meds. None of them helped. A lot of them made me worse. But I got diagnosed with ADHD in 89. Told me how to learning disability back then. I didn't have a learning disability. I just didn't learn the way they taught. Right. And when I've tried to tell people like ADHD, is if I'm sitting in something I'm not interested in, it's like drowning. I want all parents to hear this.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like, your kid is drowning. And the only way to get out of that, forget a of breath of fresh air, is to disrupt the class. We're to have an outburst. We're going to talk to somebody. You know, and we're always getting in trouble. So when I first got diagnosed, they put me on stimulants, which were not good for me. Because when you have depression,
Starting point is 00:27:21 you go up, but then the down is bad. And then for people like us who are violent, it's really bad. And we get vicious. Right? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, you guys are a model of freaking stability over here, yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:27:39 James is Santa Claus all the time, right? He's the Easter Bunny. And, uh, no, but it's bad. So I finally found something called Kelbury, which I actually take a night, which is the opposite of any other ADHD drug. And it, you know, it basically has like, when I got 19 roommates in my head talking to night all mad at each other,
Starting point is 00:27:57 man it kind of cuts it down to two so I can relax go to bed the next morning if I'm not on it if I'm on Fox and about Sunday I can be in segment two I'm thinking about segment three like I'm never present
Starting point is 00:28:09 this gets me present and it's it's been a huge help for me do you talk to a doctor about this how do you know you get at? yeah go to your doctor about it yes Kelbury Kelbury without a you
Starting point is 00:28:21 K-E-L-B-R-E it's really been a game changer for me okay man we want to thank you for You're joining us, man. Go you, man. Glazer, baby. Always.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I appreciate it. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Love you, brother. Thank you very much. Thank you so much, man. Everything, baby. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Jake Glazer in the building, guys. Thank you, man. Jay Glazer in the building, man. Unbreakable performance. Founder of MVP, Merging Veterans and Players. Check it out. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Mm-hmm. Oh, so. What's up, baby? Look here. Don't look. Slide on through. Come on. What's up, brother?
Starting point is 00:28:56 How you, man? Good, good. Joe, Joe, brother. James. How are you doing? What you? God. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yes, sir. Yes. 2004. Second round, draft choice. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Indian Abler's coach, right? Was.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Was. Was. Two-time national champion. Georgia and Texas, right? Yes, sir. Okay, okay. And currently, just receiver.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yes, sir. How you doing today, boss? Good, man. How about yourself? I'm doing good, man. I can't complain. Yes, sir. Hey, look here, I ain't never been of value enough to get traded, but how did that feel, brother? It was definitely surprising a little bit, you know. For the most part of the, well, the writing was kind of on the wall a little bit,
Starting point is 00:29:48 but, you know, it still kind of came out of nowhere. It just, it just feels good to be wanted, you know. Oh, yeah. More so than not being wanted anymore. I mean, second round draft choice, that's kind of wanted. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was, I was, I was, I was picked up two days later, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:07 The draft is over with it. Hey, so you're with New York now, right? Yeah. Got Aaron Glenn. Have you met, you know, no AG, Aaron Glenn? So I was, he was my coach back in, in Cleveland, my DB's coach. Right. How do you feel, how do you feel his coaching style is?
Starting point is 00:30:20 So, he, he a true player's coach. Like he he could relate to the player You know, of course he was a player at one time But Like he's just a true motivator Like he ain't going He ain't going to sugarcoat nothing with you Like if he needs something out of you
Starting point is 00:30:36 He's going to tell you And like as a player I feel like You don't really need much motive That's what you need Yeah And you got your man too G-D up Gary Wilson
Starting point is 00:30:46 I love that dude man How you feel like you'll be able to pick his brain And learn a little bit off of him So he'll baller Yeah Like he a straight baller and it'll just be fun. You know, we ain't really get to spend too much time together when I got traded in. But, you know, getting the whole offseason in and kind of going into the season, that'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:31:09 For sure. Yeah, definitely. How much more you think they'll be able to integrate you into that, but you're getting the whole off season there? Is there anything that they talk to you about, opportunities? I mean. Or focus or where they see it? I don't really know I'm just kind of prepared to
Starting point is 00:31:24 just go in and earn whatever I go in and earn and you know I'm always bet on myself of course so got to you can't bet on nobody else but you don't bet on you who will ain't no telling you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:31:39 you know what I said you got to yeah so I said you had I watched the game when you had a little fumble against the coast into the end zone but I'm not going to lie to you you took accountability of it some of the time that thing is the hardest thing to do. But in the league, when you're a man,
Starting point is 00:31:53 I just want to let you know respect you, and you came out and keep bowling. Like, that's what they said, man. Not letting nobody ever put you down and just knowing that you got it. You know what I'm saying? Keep that ground going, keep it popping, for sure. Was that difficult to bounce back from?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Did you have to talk to yourself, get to your own head? Do you have to talk to somebody else? Like, how, what was the process of bouncing back from now? How was that? Man. What got you here? it was it was more so just kind of the way I viewed it it was like okay like I I know I'm
Starting point is 00:32:28 gonna have some type of pushback from this of course like you can't just you can't just live life normally like and like nothing happened so I kind of looked at it as like you know it's more so somebody else blessing in my church because I know you know kind of once I go back out there like I still play the same game of football you know it was it was more so just about keeping my So, you know, while I'm in practice, while I'm in scout team, like, whatever it is, just trying to keep that hope alive. No, for sure. And keeping that, knowing you a dog. You hope alive, man.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's just a flute play. Yeah. Yeah, like the possibility of that really happening to players, like, is low. Yeah. So, you did everything you had to do the whole play. You know what I'm saying? Like, not like nobody else did that, bro. So you hooped out.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I just love the way. You're going to finish that and be good to go. For sure. So what brings you here? What you got going on, boss? Man, I'm here right now with Dexcom, you know, to show off the Dexcom G7. You know, it's a continuous glucose monitor that you slip on the back of your arm. And, you know, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when I was 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Okay. So, you know, this kind of came in my life and kind of changed the game for me. And, you know, it had me switching from, you know, diabetes and football and, you know, really just focusing on my profession and, you know, letting this do the work. So that's a 24-hour monitor that you just hope? 24-hour monitor. Right now we working with the 15 day, you know, the last product was only for 10 days. So now, you know, you only have to change this out, I believe, once a month or twice a month maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah, once a month. Wow. Yeah. Hell yeah, man. I didn't know that you had diabetes, that's good stuff. So, you know, man, you know the grind. You fight and all right.
Starting point is 00:34:22 My man, I'm here fighting for his life. It's so, bro. Keep it going, man. You do the shot and all that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, whole thing. So what is that, like a app that connects to your phone or something? Yeah, you hook it up to the phone.
Starting point is 00:34:34 It's a Bluetooth device, and, you know, you hook it up to the Apple Watch as well. And it's every five minutes, it'll send you an alert of where your blood sugar is at. So, you know, usually as a diabetic, you know, You've got a prick your finger. Yeah, prick your finger then take a shot. You know, this also works hand in hand with the punk, to which, you know, they work hand in hand,
Starting point is 00:34:58 and now you don't even need to take a shot or prick your finger. Once it hits a certain point, the pump automatically that you will what you need. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's what I'm talking about. You need to get more people because the diabetes is a real thing, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:12 That shooting itself all the time. So people that don't have it don't really recognize it. know what people are dealing with. So appreciate this, letting people know the knowledge. And it's Dexcom. Dexcom. Dexcom. G7. G7, 15-day. My guy is the one that y'all want to holler at, talk to.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Man, A. Do you, my dude, A.D. Mitchell. So how many times before this had you been in a situation where, like, you're in the game or something, and you're like, I'm dying? You got to prick your finger then and try and figure out what's going on? I kind of... So everywhere I've been, you know, I always got to hook up with the nutritionist. So, like, you know, we'll work hand in hand. And, you know, it's, it honestly depends on the day,
Starting point is 00:35:56 depending on the game, depend on, you know, how I'm feeling that day. But, you know, for the most part, it's really checking myself kind of every time I step off the field, you know, for every drive, just to make sure. And if it's not every drive, then it's every fourth. So before that, you had to actually just pop your finger every time you came up. And you're trying to catch a rock like that too Yeah That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:36:19 I got a different perspective But it's like Cool, bro He out there really really fighting Yeah I'd rather I'd rather get stuck with like a real needle Than I'd have to prick my finger That's the most annoying thing ever do
Starting point is 00:36:33 They gotta do Because they're a doctor And they prick your finger with that thing Oh man Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Yeah So when's your off-season program
Starting point is 00:36:39 Starting this year Oh Shoot I mean it kind of it kind of than started already a little bit. But I say it probably pick up once I leave here. Yeah, I get myself a little bit, like until the Super Bowl is done, that's when you know that season's over,
Starting point is 00:36:57 so you can start getting back to it. For sure. So, for sure. Debo, he don't never start working out. He probably worked out just morning and everything. The easiest way to get ready, so you don't got to get ready. Never get out of shape. If you got something hurt or something like that,
Starting point is 00:37:11 give it time to get healed up. You ain't got hurt. Two weeks. Yeah. That's all you need. And it's not like straight back to routes hard and everything. No, just keep your body right, conditioning, all that stuff for sure. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Keep that ground going, brother. Come on, man. Yeah, for sure, man. Look here, man, ADD. We want to thank you for joining us. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Appreciate the conversation.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Not bad, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, sir. I appreciate you, brother, no doubt. Yes, sir. Good old A.D. Mitchell, man, two-time national champion. Two-time national champion.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Two-time. To be more careful. I never had. Come on. Never had it. My man I never had a nest in the championship You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:37:48 You know oh yeah I ain't even never went to one That's what I didn't even went to one That's what I don't know what that feels like That's what the SEC worker do I never went to a bowl and no only had one winning season in my career I was six and five and we thought we was doing it
Starting point is 00:38:01 That was our first win in season since like 1987 Six and five Yeah that is winning Woo that is over 500 That's over 500 That's over 500 back To be more careful
Starting point is 00:38:10 Over 500 Joe Look at baby. What's up, babe? I guess we, we got questions, we got some trades. We got, we got some trade, where are we at? We got something over there? You see, we got...
Starting point is 00:38:27 What we got? It's going to be behind as they see it. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. They know, they know I got, I got good vision, but that's kind of close, ain't it? No, I think it might pop up right there, so we can be able to see. Yeah, I'm going to do it like this, so I can see it in my camera phone.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I still can't see it, though It's all good What we got today, though, Depot Who you got? Hey, we got, we got, we got, um We got, we got, uh, Kurt coming in a little bit No, no, no, we got nightcap tonight
Starting point is 00:39:01 We got nightcap tonight We got nightcap tonight. We got nightcap tonight. We got night, hey, hey, look here, man, we got night, what is that, 8 o'clock? 8 o'clock? 8 o'clock?
Starting point is 00:39:08 8. Live. 815. We up. Oh, okay, okay. What do you got? That's a player. Joe, what is your favorite?
Starting point is 00:39:21 No, no, that's obvious. addressed to you. That's obviously addressed to you. This man is so... It's a question that we have to ask. No. They're not asking me because you just want me to say... It's a question for both of us, right? Yep, no. Yes. No, it's not. Do your job. Who at... Who was this? Nate, Harper, don't ask questions that I can't answer.
Starting point is 00:39:43 You can be watching it. They got... You could have watched one that you had a favorite member of us. As a player, when I was... No. When I was playing and I wasn't in it, I don't care. But you want me to be rude or no I don't care I don't have a favorite memory Of me not playing in the Super Bowl I don't have a favorite memory
Starting point is 00:40:00 What's your favorite memory? I don't care, no Watching the Super Bowl, Joe Oh favorite memory of me watching the Super Bowl Okay, I might say You know what, Debo I'm gonna say It don't say in the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:40:11 Super Bowl memory As a player Right, not player in the Super Bowl As a player All right well look You retire, you're no longer a player When you were a player What's your favorite
Starting point is 00:40:22 My favorite, we got, we got, we got, Hey, dog. That's what I'm talking about. My favorite memory was your pick, Dibo. Your favorite, your favorite memory is your pick. We both got the same favorite memory. We got Kurt coming with my good old dog. What's up, boss?
Starting point is 00:40:39 How you doing, Kurt? I was excited. Good to see you, baby, good to see you. Good to see. Hey, boy. Hey, boy. Ooh, hey. What's up, boy.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, he don't like you. He don't like you. He said me see my sunglasses. He felt it. He felt you wasn't a dog person, man. Yeah, they do feel that. Yes, he felt that. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Take my mic. Give me a chair. Give me a chair. Yeah, we should. Get up there, Pedy. Jump up there. Don't come up here. Come here, man.
Starting point is 00:41:11 That boy, big. There you go. Damn. It's far back. Good boy. If we can get the chair to the corner, then we can see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:20 This made my week. I love it. How we doing guys? Doing great, man. Awesome, man. Good to see you guys. Great to see you guys. Great to see you. Congrats on doing this.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Thank you. Having a blast. Having a blast. Let's tell y'all who we got here. You know exactly. We got Pete the dog. That's the most important thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And his owner. I'm a handler. I'm here as a handler. It's so true. That's my life now. Look here, man. Indiana. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:52 How about that? Okay. This is what I want to know. I'm a Kent State alumni. Yeah, I know. Do you see any possibility of this situation being able to happen for Kent State or programs like mine, you know, that's at the... I almost think it's getting become more of a haves and a have-nots. And I think the Kent states of the world, if you were there and you had a great freshman or sophomore year, Florida's coming down and they're going to give you.
Starting point is 00:42:24 game-changing money. And it's life-changing. And it's hard for me to visualize a group of four team right now, being able to keep their roster together to make a possible run. I would love it, but I just think that the Florida's of the world, the Ohio States, the Texas is, it's so different than when you guys were coming through the recruiting and just the way they, high school kids aren't being recruited like they used to be.
Starting point is 00:42:50 They're going to Kent State and they're going to get a guy who's all. All-conference guy and get him for two years. So it's such a different game. Some people are still developing. It's kind of like NFL. You build through the draft and you kind of sprinkle in some free agents. I think the best teams are doing it that way. Not just going all in on trying to bring in portal guys.
Starting point is 00:43:11 But the game is so different right now. Do you see any point in time where they're going to have to put some type of stipulation rules to how they're doing this with the – Yeah, I think that's what we're waiting for. James's rules. Like right now, if you get frustrating, your team's two and six, you just leave. Like, if you're mad, you're not playing, you just leave. It's like, you imagine the NFL, like, you just bounced. I mean, you played on teams that are championship teams. You played on teams that were struggling by week eight. You kind of know you're probably, imagine just being like,
Starting point is 00:43:44 I'm out. Yeah. And I don't, what's that teaching the kids, you know, like, I have four sons. Like, I can't imagine every time they ran into an obstacle, it's like, we just quit, you know, go over here, and try something. Like, you want them to, part of great part of football is trying to overcome that and learning how to overcome adversity. And we're teaching these guys right now just go around it, go to another place. And I just feel bad for them long term because they don't have any roots with where they are. I'm sure you still have connections in Gainesville.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And you were there three years. And I don't know, I feel like when I went to college. Damn, he ain't even talked to me about Kent State. We have a little, we have a little, we have not a thing over here. Did you, do you have tight? I still got some ties. Do you? Okay, good, man.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Good. But I just think it's. I'm trying to get enough money so I could go in there and buy me a program. Nice. I like that. I'm going to do, I'm going on head and get me a, I'm trying to get a budget like old state. Oh, yeah. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:44:39 That's tough. They got some great back. They do. But I just, I feel bad. Like, where are we going to be in 10 years with these kids that maybe went to the NFL, played for three years, didn't get that second contract? Don't have that generation on what? income? Yeah. What happens to that guy? Like, what did he learn in his college experience?
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Starting point is 00:47:32 This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter's. incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah, thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, then I couldn't kind of recover. And I built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to, I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about Fernando Mendoza, though? Do you think he's going to be able to change a franchise, like a number one pick legitimately coming in? Again, it's your guy's world,
Starting point is 00:48:50 but I don't know if he's the guy that you're going to say, it doesn't matter who's at receiver, it doesn't matter who's at running back. We got this guy. He's our, we're going to, okay. He's a guy that you're going to put on that is going to process at an elite level, he's going to see you disguising, uptight, showing man, and then dropping off playing. He's going to see that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:11 So he's that guy. Okay. But he doesn't have a skill set that's just a game changer. But I'm a fan of these kind of guys. But you've got to have, you got pieces around him. A thousand percent. If you got pieces around him, he's your guy. If you want him to just like save the franchise, I don't think he's the guy. I don't think he's that
Starting point is 00:49:27 for sure. I just don't. I like Herbert with the Chargers, they went to him and it was like, we'll eventually get good enough, but in the meantime, he's such an elite skill set, we're going to be okay. He's not that.
Starting point is 00:49:40 He's going to manage it and get you out of trouble, not letting him blitz. If he's hanging out, and all of a sudden he comes late, eventually I think he's going to see things like that. So he's very incredibly smart. And he does have some skill,
Starting point is 00:49:54 I mean, does have some ability as he saw, you know, in his championship run. I could see, like how Sam Darnold with the Jets, how that's the same person that's playing with the Seahawks right now, but you put a good defense around you, you put a good team around you, you don't have to do everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Just don't mess it up, put it in the right spot. And I think Brock Purdy out here kind of does that, right? Mr. Irrelevant, no one thought he could do anything. And again, I think you got Christian behind him, all the pieces of receiver, understands what Kyle is trying to do to attack a defense. He's an extension of Kyle, and he's like a computer. That's what Mendoza. He's going to be a computer.
Starting point is 00:50:30 That kind of guy. And like you said, too, it's the coach is putting him in a position that him and Kyle. Kyle got people running open. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to throw it in too many tight windows. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Right. Yeah. College, pro. Transition from one to the other. How much of that transfer from college for pro? And what do you think the biggest things that do or don't? Well, I think a quarterback, and again, you guys are the perfect age to see
Starting point is 00:50:56 like early in your guy's careers, there were quarterbacks that probably were savants when it came to what we're talking about. And I feel like as high school football, like quarterbacks came up in middle school and high school never huddled, never under center, looking over the sideline, looking at an Elmer Fudd sign or whatever. You know what I mean? They weren't quarterbacks. And I think now the game has changed so much. Most of these guys are coming out of these systems where very rarely are they running an NFL kind of offense. So you just wonder, it's, you're really kind of rolling the dice,
Starting point is 00:51:30 wondering, does he have what it takes? Like, does J.J. McCarthy leave in Michigan? Does he have what it takes? You really never know until you do all your due diligence, roll the dice, and then you hope that they have that ability. Like Caleb Williams, it's been so fun. That guy never huddled in his life. And he was a superstar, best athlete on the field.
Starting point is 00:51:52 That's all he knew. So his instincts as a quarterback, but he's had been worked through with Ben Johnson, His primary is not there. He's going to go try to make James miss, and a lot of times it worked out for him. Now he's becoming a guy. His first, nope, second, third. And then if it's not there, he can do his thing.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I'm excited to see where that relationship, by the way, is going to go with Caleb and Ben Johnson. But I don't know, man. I'd like to think because of his preparation. He's the guy you play with these quarterbacks. They got their tablet, always with them, always at home. always at home watching film. He's that guy. So I'd like to think it'll transition, but who knows?
Starting point is 00:52:32 You know what? Something that surprised me that I think both me and Joe actually found out a little bit of this year is a lot of these young guys, receivers, some quarterbacks, they can't read coverage. No. I never heard of not being able to read coverage or being taught that in the process.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Like, where does that, where is that being dropped off at? I think the emphasis, again, you lived it, The five-star, four-star world, it's seven-on-seven. You know, it's almost like AAU basketball. So instead of getting in the mud and, like, learning the fundamentals of the game, I think there's so much flash and so much hype on social media about this corner.
Starting point is 00:53:13 He's out here and he's doing this, and he's not doing necessarily what he's going to do in a game. He's just doing clown stuff. You grab it. But it's encouraged in the grassroots high school stuff. So then they come to come to comedy. And these college guys, they're just trying to keep him on the roster. You get a five-star corner.
Starting point is 00:53:30 You're just trying to keep him happy and want to stay. No one's getting tough in doing like Nick Saban, like coaching. Like this is how you play. They're worried about losing him. They're worried about him leaving. Yeah, they come in as celebrities already. They need nothing to earn nothing. And they're up there catering to him and they ain't putting not one snap on the field.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Bingo. It makes. That's the fear you have. And then you're thinking in the NFL, okay. So you have Joe who hasn't been taught. the fundamentals, but man, he can run, change a direction. He has all the, I can get him to learn. That's what I think they're rolling the dice on.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And sometimes it works. And other times, guys just never get it. You know, they never get it. How much of the game for you guys as defensive players was, not just how big and strong you were, how fast and instinctive you were, but just doing your job, understanding the why and how what you did affected what he did. Like, to me, that's like next level. That's the whole level.
Starting point is 00:54:26 That's the whole thing. But they're not doing that again. No, no. I don't even think, I don't think a majority of younger coaches are teaching that, to be honest with you. Like, I think guys are getting in there and they're looking at what it is they want to do instead of getting the guys a whole understanding. Like when I got in, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. So I couldn't even do what I needed to do. How did you learn?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Once I understood, I sat down with my coach, my coach, Coach Butler, sat down with me and day in, day out. I'm here trying to figure out everything. But once I learned what it was that I could do, I couldn't learn what I could do better. But I can learn with the guy next to me with the guy on that side of me. But did he teach you that? Or did you have that in your own mind that you needed that? Like to make me better, to make the defense better,
Starting point is 00:55:15 if I learn what the guy is doing in front of me, behind me on the side of me, if I have no work there, instead of me just sitting here on nothing, I can squeeze in and wait for that. Deep did coming at 17 that's going to be coming on the rear cross. Sitting down here in the Curral Flat in five yards. And now I'm making my safety. But it has a secret sauce. It makes players of you guys.
Starting point is 00:55:36 But that's something that like Dick LeBow, like he taught us that. Coach Butler, they taught us that like, hey, if you don't have anything here, help your buddy. You know what I'm saying? And burning it. I would say this too, the same thing. Because when you first get in, you're worried about it takes you long enough to learn just your job. So when you cut in there my first rookie year, after the second year, you start. learning what everybody's around you doing.
Starting point is 00:55:58 When you call the play as a corner, I first come out, all right, we got cover two. I'm thinking about what's my job. Now, second year, they call cover two. I already know that. I'm just worried about when they motion, what's our check, what are the splits, what routes are they running? So now I already know our defense,
Starting point is 00:56:12 you start getting more and more and more comfortable. See, to me, what you guys are describing to me is what gets lost by the average fan, which to me is how much football-savvy, intelligence, communication, especially great defense, like Seattle, both these teams, the communication. But these things aren't talked about.
Starting point is 00:56:33 We're going back to your original point, about college and high school players and coming up. I think we just see raw ability. We see potential. And we think, is that going to transition? And what you're describing is, you better go to the right franchise with the right coach. Otherwise, you're just going to have a really talented player
Starting point is 00:56:52 that's just not understanding the nuances. of playing as one of 11 on a defense. Well, that's another thing. When you have a coach, what we like to call buy-in. When I have a coach, my coach is Joe Hayden, and I know how Joe Hayden played the game, I saw how he played the game. I'm going to buy-in to him immediately.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And now I'm going to listen to everything he has to say because I know I've seen greatness, and now he's coaching and telling me what to do. So it's an automatic buy-in to that, and now players are wide open to feed and take in the information. Are you going to coach? Yes, I think it's about to start getting into it.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Good for you, man. I just wanted to take a little bit of time first. Yeah. He's giving a face. Are you going to leave my man here? No, no, no, no. We're going together. We're going together.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Oh, yeah, when I get that 30. Come on, man. Okay. You're going to coach? Yes, yes. Look here, man, before we get you out of here, man, what brings you here? What's the guy going on? So I have four dogs.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I'm a big dog guy. And I lost one of my dogs last year. It's just age of 10. And I've always wondered, you know, is it stuff I'm feeding my dogs? It's stuff that I'm putting around in my house and they're eating grass. And so Spruce is a pet-friendly weed killer. So if you're ever doing work, guys are doing work around your house and you're worried about your dogs out there sometimes getting into stuff,
Starting point is 00:58:08 you wonder what those chemicals do to a dog potentially in their long-term health. So when Spruce had contacted me, I mean, this guy right here, you can look at him. He's my life. Oh, he's having a business. He's just, my dogs are like, I have four sons, but they're really like my kids. and I care about them. And so Spruce, the fact, they have 10 ingredients in their product. They're fantastic.
Starting point is 00:58:30 So, yeah, if you're interested in that and you do yard work or you have people doing your yard work and you like a pet-friendly product, Spruce is definitely a home run. Can they buy this in stores or is it online? Yeah, online. You can buy it in stores like Home Depot. Nationwide. Nationwide. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah. Yeah. A good product. Check those dogs with spruce. Yeah. Come on. Thank you. I appreciate you for coming on.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Thank you. Great seeing you, man. Congrats on. Pete. Thank you, boss. I appreciate you. And good luck with everything. For sure.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Thank you, boss. All right now. Yeah, I'll get him. Good old Kurt Hurd Street. Come on. And Peter. Pete. Come here, Pete.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Come here. Come here. He don't like you. Well, they do like me. I like him, Joe. All right, Pete. Thanks, guys. All right now.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Have a going, boss. Good old Kurt. Yes, sir. Spruce? Right. Spruce. Spruce, spruce. Ain't that a...
Starting point is 00:59:32 My man, Kurt. That's a legend right there, B'Bow. That's a big dog, man. That's a lab. He got a meaty head for a lab, but I'm trying to tell you, man. Definitely. Definitely. Hello.
Starting point is 00:59:45 What's up, baby? I'm good. How are you? Good. Nice to meet you. See you. We're cooking. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Look here, man. We got another question, man. Let's get up over here. We got... If you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be? Joe, if you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be? You know what I'm going to. I'm going game.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I'm going any game seven basketball championship floor, courtside. That's why I'm going. Courtside basketball games are the funnest thing that I could go to. I love football and the suite and all that, but you're too far. That basketball on the floor with Braun right there sitting right next to me. Like you sitting right next to me right now and all like this. Yeah, you don't like, I don't know y'all, y'all, whatever. So sitting next to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, whoever one is your favorite player of all time.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Sitting right next to him on the floor. If you sit next to Jordan, you might want to call that one, huh? I might. All right. All right. Game seven, game seven, Utah Jazz versus with Jordan. Put me in the box. Put you in the box.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Put me in the box. I'm going to have a TV in the box. I'm going to have a better view. I'm going to get all the replays. I'm going to get all the excitement of the live with none of the removal of space. Okay, so you want to be, you want to be. Like when we're in the box. Super Bowl and the Box.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah, Super Bowl and the Sweet. Super Bowl and the Sweet. I can respect it. Super Bowl and the Sweet. Game, I'm going to eat. Plenty to eat. Plenty to eat. But I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I ain't got to get up to go nowhere. All I do is turn around, you know, grab me some crab cakes, you know, grab me some. grab me some steak you know whatever it is that I need that I need it's already in the box ready to go
Starting point is 01:01:36 When you on the floor though too They bring you Whatever you want They bring you that I had crab cakes on the floor I had crab cakes on the flow Right next to Brown Right next to MJ
Starting point is 01:01:46 Where are your table at That you eat Oh it gotta be on my lap though You gotta play with me man You're trying to really throw down You're trying to throw down Yeah I'm not sitting there snacking Do I look like I snack?
Starting point is 01:01:56 Mm-hmm Do I look like I No, you don't like you snack. Hey, Super Bowl, Pittsburgh Steelers. Any Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowl. I got to be in the box, though. I'm going. I got to be on the floor.
Starting point is 01:02:13 NBA finals. Got to. I'm a basketball guy, D. Bro. I'm a big basketball. Listen. You see my jacket? The only way, the only way I'm not in the box, I'm on the sideline as the head coach, getting 30 million.
Starting point is 01:02:29 You're my DB coach We down there Yeah, I like that I like that view I like that view Yeah, sir Yeah, Lord Yes
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yes Yes Look here What we got next You got something else up here No There we go Ooh who wins the matchup
Starting point is 01:02:49 JSCN Or Christian Gis Boy What do you call a win That's what I'm saying What is a win Is it over Is it under a certain amount of y'allis?
Starting point is 01:03:02 You know what I'm saying? He's keeping them out of the end zone. Like, what do you call a win? If he goes, if he goes. See what do they call a win? If he goes, what do we call the win? It's five. I'm a DB.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I'm saying a win for me is under. Against him. Against him. Against him. Against him. Against him. Under 50 yards, no touchdowns. 50 yards, you're tripping.
Starting point is 01:03:22 They can throw that boy the ball about 15 times. No, I'm just trying to tell you. As me as a DB, if I keep you under 50 and out of the end zone, that's when I won. Keep him out of the end zone, period. You won. but you don't want 12 for 150 and no touchdown, you got hit.
Starting point is 01:03:37 You know what I'm saying? But depending on, is it zones? I don't like a lot of those dig routes. If that's just in the zone, the linebackers coming up, biting up. He's saying, man, man and man. Man and man. If he's going man and man,
Starting point is 01:03:48 and he's on him keeping him under 50 yards, no tuts, and that's a win. If he goes, if he's going to him, it's man defense. He targeted him eight times. Uh-huh. Perfect balls. Perfect balls.
Starting point is 01:04:00 If you strapped them up, If he's four, four catches for 42 yards, zero tuss. 442, that's strap. That's worth. I like that. You know what I'm saying? Anything under that 50 and no tuddies? And you got a couple, you got five catches for 50 yards?
Starting point is 01:04:17 I'm in no tuddies. So with that being your, listen, so we just got your standard. That being your standard. Yes. Who wins the matchup? Jackson Smith and Jigba. Yeah. Because, I mean, he's going to get more to 50.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I mean, if you're going to lock him out, he might get to be. He's going to get in the ball, too. He's going to get in the zone. He's going to get 100. Man, they throw that man the ball too much. You think you go hold that, man. You go strap down the other. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:04:42 If he throw it to him 12 and he catches half of it, you just got, he got six depending. If he gets 10 yards of catch, don't let him go off top on you. Like, one of these catches could be for 45 yards. And then you're looking nuts. Then you're six for 120 on your head and a tutty. Bad day. 12 opportunities. I could take, I could take one,
Starting point is 01:05:03 You can take 120. If it's 10 or 12 catches. And no, and what about the touchdown? No, as long as you say, keep them out the box and you won. Keep them out the end zone and you want. Yeah, but I'm with you. I'm going to have to go. I'm going to go with J.S.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I got to go with Jets. And that's no disrespect. It's just that how many opportunities is he going to get it? They're going to keep, they're going to tone that rock. And Walker going to be toting that joy too. Same thing. What we got? Flip it.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Who wins MVP? Mm. I'm going to go ahead. Well, if it's going what I think, Seattle, if Seattle wins the championship, Sam Donald's going to win the MVP. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go, well, they ain't going to win, so.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Is it going to be, if Kenneth Walker. Who's going to win MVP? Of course, you know, I'm going to win them because, you know. So you're going to go Drake May? I'm not going to vote Drake May. I'm going to go Whoever get this game Changing, winning
Starting point is 01:06:18 Interception on your boy On Sam Don, whoever pick off So you, it could be Gonzalez If Gonzalez take one back to the crib He came the whole game Trying to get it out of there Trying to squeeze it in there tight He got pressure coming up on it
Starting point is 01:06:33 He swang that thing out, boy come down on that thing It's just a little out of Pick Six to the house So you're like a defensive MVP I love defense MVP. Some people say I should have won it. What are you talking about? No, no, that's what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:44 You know what I'm saying? I know why I ain't win that, but, you know, that's... They were Peyton? Yeah, yeah, yeah, inside story. Me and Madden got some issues. I ain't going to lie, but... Madden? Listen, I talked you later about it.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Yeah, yeah. Straight hate out of the gate. That's crazy word. Listen, bro. That's crazy word. I sat down at the box with him after the game. after the Super Bowl After the game right there sat down
Starting point is 01:07:13 Everybody on that crew So But John man What like I said I'll talk to you later about Anyway man What's the next question Let's see
Starting point is 01:07:25 Who wins Oh Let me back Yeah I got to back up for this one Well here's my question Do you think the NFL Has a quarterback Development problem
Starting point is 01:07:40 Within this league Because unless you're Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, Burroughs, or even that these guys would rather discard you like a used sock instead of building around the quarterback position. Do you think the NFL has a cook? All right. Yes. I think it's not, it's a development problem and it's a, the coaches, it's, some coaches aren't that good. some offensive coaches aren't that good and they try to put the blame on the
Starting point is 01:08:16 quarterback like oh no he's not doing nothing he's not good enough. Prime example when we say Sam Darno he was not it's not like it's a different person that's playing the Jets didn't have an offense set up they didn't give him structure defense wasn't good you just have a full blown bad team so Sam Donald looks bad
Starting point is 01:08:32 you go with the Vikings he looked a little better you know I'm saying team was better around him developed you know what I'm saying better plays then you go now to Seattle you're not asked to do as much. He's the same person. He's just hitting better passes, getting the ball run game. Amazing. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Their defense, unbelievable.
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