Club Shay Shay - Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 2 - Emmitt Smith joins! + Seahawks vs. Patriots Predictions!

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden LIVE from San Francisco Radio Row ahead of Super Bowl LX featuring Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks vs. Drake Maye and the New England Patriots. Deebo & Joe are joined by Emmitt Smith and much more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got Ambus, man. Gay to Great. Game a great. Former cowboy running back three. Three-time Super Bowl champion NFL all-time rushing leader and a Hall of Famer. Yes, sir, Gator Great. How are you doing? How are you guys doing?

Stillers are everywhere. All over the place. I mean, I was over there with your boy, Haywood and Porter. Yes. Yeah, man. Y'all doing your thing. Trying to, boss. Try to do you.

I appreciate you. Speaking enough of doing our thing, what's wrong with them cowboys over there? To see you go start a home. I don't know what's wrong with them boys. I mean, they just, you know how to this. You know how the locker room is? You know how that locker room is, but y'all locker room. I look at y'all at the Steelers as a championship organization,

just like the 40-9th century, a championship organization. You know how to win. Yes. You know what the coach a little bit. And players like you to come in, you know what to expect. Yes. I don't have to tell you. No.

Because your leadership on top down. Right. It's going to top down. Exactly. I don't know if we have that kind of leadership from top down. And where everybody's buying into what the leaders are showing them and teaching them and working with them. Yes. And that includes players.

That includes players. And I'm not sure if coaches themselves are all on the same page. All coaches try to figure out a way to just display their talent so they can go get a head coach some other place. I don't know what's going on in that regard. So I think people come into the Cowboys organization truly with not the right intentions. I don't know if everybody's as committed. Are they coming just to have that notoriety or having that star or are they coming there to actually buy in and come out with a championship?

That is. You know, is your goal to win championships or is your goal to get fame and fortune? That is. That's what I'm talking about. When you look at New England Patriots, they are the same way. Mark Babel came back and I think he established all of that. You've got to have someone that's from that championship, to come back and bring that kind of, especially if he's the head coach.

I think that's how he's impacting this team. Because this team can look at this dude to say, you know what, this mother brother here has won some championship. I got a question for you, though. Yeah. How do you feel about Mike McCarthy when he was there? Did he have that opportunity or was he kind of maybe handicapped a little by other forces? Or was that just all him?

I think it's all him. Okay. I really do. I think every head coach has the chance to say, this is who I am, and this is how I'm operating. And at the end of the day, either you want me to do what I do best

or you know somebody else. I know you like Jerry. I want to know if Jerry was handicapping my guy or not, okay? Because Jerry is somebody I feel like that can't get out of his own way. You know what? I always thought I wanted to be the smartest person in the room. But then I realized I don't want to be the smartest person in the room

because I can't grow. I have nowhere to go. I need to get out of that room and get into other room. But it's only one person that's more dangerous than that. And that's the person that thinks there's the smartest person in that room and now has the power to quiet all those voices. Right, right. I think that's Jerry.

He can't get out his own way sometime. Well, let me ask you this. Have you ever seen Jerry Jones make a talk? Never. Have you ever seen Jerry Jones throw a touchdown pass? Never. You ever seen him handing the ball off to a running back? Never.

Have you ever seen him make a block? Never. He ain't in his way. How? He's the one that's going to put the players there. He's the one to go get you in the draft, go get you in the draft, go bring me in a draft, and then you go in the room. I'm telling the players need to take ownership and the mindset of the, you asked about Mike McCarthy. I like Mike McCarthy. I like him. The problem is, I think with coaching some of the guys that are coaching today, they want to throw the ball everywhere.

And they want to go to the analytics. And they go away from their gut instinct at times because analytics tell me to go forward on fourth down. When I have a defense that just stop somebody, or an offense that just drove down the field and got into the field goal range and we tried to get in the end zone and we couldn't do it, take the three points.

That's what I said. Keep the momentum going. My defense just stopped them at the goal line, right? And now we drive down the field, and now we're on their side of the field, take the damn three points. Please. Keep the momentum going for your team

because you have worked your behind off. I'm going to reward you for what you just done. I'm not going to just miss this. Now, if the field, go kick a miss the dog, makes the point. I'm looking at him sideways. For sure. You got a job.

So, I mean, I think people get so enamored by these numbers and the money ball bullshit that they miss out on the humanistic of who people really are and how to keep people motivated. Right. Right. Oh, well, we missed it. We still up seven.

She's back there. They got there working. Well, if you had kicked that field, you'd be up 10 now, that would have put a little different pressure on the Patriots at that point time. At that point of time. You wanted to play. You wanted to play. You want to play.

You want to, well, they missed it. So we're going to miss it too. So the game is still even. No, no, no, no. Look at us. All three of us, right? Yes. Guess what?

We play the game. We know the motions of the game. Yes. And you know what that. Yes. But we are some instinctive, instinct of people. Yes.

Thank you. And we have our own mind. And we know how hard it is to go from one end to the other end. Yes. Against a solid defense or a solid offense or a strong offense. How do you want to look at it? They play, they're playing matchmaker. They ain't doing shit in between the lines.

You are out here trying to. Well, the number said this because of this and that note. The number said it's third down. We need to make it. We need to kick this field. The number says. said Emmett Smith was not even supposed to be the all-time leading Russia.

The number said Emmett Smith wasn't even supposed to be in the league no more than three and a half, four years. That's what the number said. That's what the number said. What the Emmett said, God damn. Emmett said 15. Him said 18-35. How many yards he said Russia?

18355. What did he say? He said a hundred and sixty-four touchdown. How many Super Bowl he said? He said three Super Bowls at the MVP. All right. What did he tell him about the Hall of Fame? Hey, 2010.

Oh. 20 10. Come on. Oh, yes. They're great. But it is. It's that. Yes.

That some of these folks don't know. Some of them are so smart, their ass is dumb. That's what I'm saying. You think you're too smart. You're outsmarting yourself. How smarting yourself? Too smart for your own good. But they don't want to hear that from.

Hey, they don't want to hear that from the players. Let's put it like that. They don't want to hear from us or. Oh, damn it. That was good. Yeah, I'm just saying, man. I'm asking this. Hey, man, look, man, speaking to players, man, do you think, do you think,

do you think, how boy should resign? Uh, pick and boy picking. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. I think he should. I think he should. And here's the reason why. You had Irvin, you had Hart.

Mm-hmm. Now you're going to have, uh, pickings. And land. And land. And then you got Devante in the slot, or you got the tight end. So you got some weapons that. Then you got a run game that you can rely on. Okay.

So now you upgrade in areas of weakness up front. Only a few. Then on the defensive side, this is where we got to get it. That's where we got to get it right. That's what we'll get right. We got to get it right over here. We got to get these two guys that we got through, the trays and everything else, we got to get them some support, and we got to get some linebackers in there.

That can go east and west. And that team got to be able to run eastern west and get to the football, the way y'all used to get to the football. Give me nine months. I'll be back. I'll come back for the cowboy for a year. Give me nine months. Nine months to get right first.

You get me five years. I ain't coming back. Hey, line. How do you feel about Would you did Brian Schottheimer exceed your expectations? He did. He did.

I thought he did a great job of bringing that offense together and not only that, but establishing the ability to be able to run the ball and throw the ball at the same time. I mean, balances, to me, balances the key to everything. Yes.

And when you were able to run the ball and the defensive player know this, you're able to run the ball, the whole offense opener. Yes. If you can't do that, you want to mention it. Because you've got to come down

and try and stop it. You got to take stuff out of the car. Exactly. I'm going to have my guys, my dogs, my greyhounds on that edge, pin their ears back and go get it. I'm going to blitz. I'm going to put more pressure on that quarterback now. And that ball get tipped, pick.

Turnover opportunities. And some quarterbacks that play in this game could feel the pressure. Hey, listen, they're seeing ghosts. They're saying ghosts. He said, are you concerned if Jerry Jones doesn't sign George Pickings, to a long-term deal? Are you concerned if he doesn't sign pickings to a long- I'm not necessarily concerned because we got picks,

we can go in the draft and get guys that might be quality guys coming out. Okay. I mean, we can make also some trades for some people to get better when I ever see was in. But I would prefer us to sign George Pickens because he's in a system for a year. Yeah. And it's going to get better next year.

Lamb is there. Lamb is going to get better. and everybody should get better in this system because it'll be year two. Yeah. And all you're doing now is just upgrading in areas of that that was challenging and that could be limiting the offense from growing. Okay. I understand.

I understand what you're saying. Now look here. Dem boys, you think some of that dem boys lusted and wore off is just words. It's just word play now. We them boys sound like just, you know, lip service right now. First of all, we them boys is a son. And I think it is lip service because we haven't done enough to maintain the right to be them boys like that. And so, you know.

You were true because you did it. You did it. You did it. You did it. You all deserved it. That's why I understand when you say we them boys, they got to be something behind it. There's got to be something behind it to stabilize the junk that has appeared over the last 30 years. And once you get it stabilized,

this is where Jerry cannot mess it up at. Once you get it stabilized, you cannot do anything to disrupt it. You got to leave that chemistry where it's at? Because the minute you start following with chemistry, that's when everything falls apart. And that window is closing on certain places. So either you're going to recreate it right now

or you're going to wait to the end of the window and then you're going to have to start over again and you're going to invest it all the time, all of this energy, all of this money, and things that's outdated now. And it don't take long. But we get you out of here. What brings you in here, man?

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I can talk to you for a long time, man. I'm going to get you a number. All right, bro. We're going to make off line. We're about to jump off right here right now. Yeah, I got your number. I was getting to jam. Yeah.

Hit me up right now and make sure you got the right numbers. Yeah. All right. Peace out, y'all. Hey, look here. Joe. Let me let me. You know what time it is, Joe.

It's play of fade presented by prize. Come on. Let's wrote. I dial it in. Yes. There we go. Good one. I can't hear you.

Yope, yoke. Artie's bred. It says some animation. I can't hear it. You might have the other number. You can. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Let's get it. Now, y'all going to fight over that table. Oh, you leaving it? Oh, I'm leaving it. It ain't going to be no fight. Joe like yourself. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and let him have that one. I'm going to go ahead and let him have that one.

Ain't going to be no fight. Damn, thank you, boss. You too. Hey, look here, Joe, man. Check it out right here, man. What's up, brother? You already know I got the Patriots win. Yes.

But in that process, you know who's going to be the person that's going to be the MVP for us. It's going to be Sam Darnel and whoever catch that pick from you. I got Drake May. It's an easy. Five more to five yards. That's simple. And I ain't going to lie to you. I got more for J.S.N.

Just because I think they're going to throw the man and rock a whole bunch of money. Opportunities. And the reason they're going to have to do that is because we're going to stop to run on Walker. He's going to get less. What do you think, man? Why did we put Walker under? No Walker going to tote that pill. Yes, he is.

Okay. And they doesn't have Charbonnet either. So there's no Charbonnet. He's the lone wolf. He's the lone toad. He's the lone toad. We go key in on them. Man, they don't even throwing the ball like that.

If you start doing that. You plan or you fading? What you go do? I'm fading. Joe is fading me, man. Because you plan. You plan. You plan.

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Love you. We'll be. We won't be back. We won't be back. But look here. We will see y'all at Nightcap. No, we're still running a question. We got a question?

See, Deepa. He's all off Q. We ain't off Q. Hey, man, what time is it? I thought we was out of time. Look here. We got, how come more teams don't run the two-minute offense at times throughout the game. From what I see it is, it works when they need it.

Uh, timing. Two minute offense is two minute offense. That makes your players tired. Uh, you want to run two minute offense all day. You better figure out a two minute offense of two separate offenses to be able to do it. And then it's like you got to, it's a certain pace. Yeah. You got to have things going.

You got to like, say we make a play and we try to get onto the ball. We don't want to start, like, let you sub. So take one out. You got to, I'm going to walk in and sub. I slow that down. Yeah. As soon as you change, as soon as you change personnel, the other teams, able to slow your whole thing down,

they can just walk it out because soon as you sub one, the ref can stand over the ball. So I would think that and just you just can't go to. It just doesn't make sense. It don't make sense because you're talking about two-minute all game. It don't work that way. Two-minute is two-minute for the reason. It's not going to be as effective as you think it is

because now if I know that's what you're doing I'm going to prepare for that situation to be all game and say you try to do that two minutes and it's incomplete incomplete now you're starting the ball up you gave it up with you wasted five seconds at the game

15 seconds and now you got 15 seconds 15 seconds of play and they come back out there they start running the ball grinding your defense out and now you jump back out here two minutes and you do another three out your defense was out there 10 minutes got two minutes now they back out there for another team

you'll get dog walked so yeah and then you you're establishing the run. Two minute offense, you're not really like just handing the ball off. That's clock. It's just, it's not, it's not situationally proper. I'm looking at the clock, bro. I'm looking at my watch.

Oh, it's on, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not. It's on, it's on what's the name time, bro. You thought you was on the East Coast still? No, it didn't. I ain't got it hooked up to nothing. So it didn't, it didn't change. It didn't change back to nothing, brother.

All right, what we got here? I guess we got more. That was the two-minute joint What's next? It can't be the two-minute. We ain't got nothing else next, good. Oh, we do? We do.

Who will step up? Who will step up for Seattle? Man, that's what. New England takes away J.S.N. If New England takes away J.S. If New England takes away JSCN, who will step up? They got coop, they got cup. But he ain't going to step up.

The only, they're going to have If they lock down Br, JSC, everybody else gonna be so scared they'd be like, we can't get free either.

If JSC can't get loose, what's we going to do, ball? They're going to be spooked if J.S. they're not getting off. You ain't lie. Who you think?

Who you think? Honestly, I like Cooper. I like Cup, but if they don't run the ball, if Kenneth Walker doesn't get off for at least,

that's what I'm saying. Ken of Walker's going to run for a buck 20-something, telling you. Because if he's not getting off and they don't have to drop those safeties up there, then J.S.N. could be able to – I think J.S.N. is going to be able to get off. But when they double-team him, Walker's going to be the ball. Walker's going to be the MVP of the game. I understand that, but I can still double-team him and keep enough people on the line to be able to stop Walker.

So I'm just going to go ahead and be like, look, I know he go get what he go get. But I can't let this dude get loose. So now if I let him get loose, now we got to bring even more. Like, I just can't let him get loose. He gets loose. Now, all the other receivers got an opportunity, too. I'm telling you. I'm going to let you get.

It's only opening up if Kenneth Walker, Jr. gets to to to to. That's why we stop him. Like you said, if you say it happens. That's why we stop him. You're going to win. We go stop him from running. We stop him from running. We know you go go to who you go.

go to, we go tackle the catch, make sure that we got two bodies in the vicinity, even if it's not a double, and then strap everybody else. If you strap J.S.N. and Walker. I ain't saying we got to strap J.S.N. I'm saying we got to strap Walker. And we, J.S.N. get, I said, more. He gets more, but he don't get no tutty with it. Mm-hmm. I don't, I don't believe it. They're all not stopping Walker, and that's going to let Then Donald go try that. I'm going to force it in there because he go,

it ain't going to be there. He'll be trying to get it away from it because they go start pinning them ears back. We're going to be watching the ball no more. I can pin my ears back. Run first. Run first, Seattle. Run first. Yeah, but if it's no success.

It's going to be successful, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You keep on saying like they're going like the Patriots defense is going, no, they're not going to be able to run. I'm not saying they just go. Like, this is the Super Bowl, bro. Yeah, we're going to see. Like, everybody is, your boy, Donald is.

He, right now, he's thinking about everything that went on in his life. Right now he's balling. He's like, oh, man, I just went from this to dad. Like, I can't let anybody. He's pressuring himself. I hope he is. I'm pressuring you. Look here, man.

He said, outside of the distillers and the Browns, what team would you like to play for? Outside of the Steelers and the Browns, what team is like? I ain't going to lie to you. If we're going, are we going like for winning or just play for it? And it's already given how it's winning. It's already, no, it's not given that it's winning. It's whatever, like, what teams?

Well, see, you just said, oh, you used to lose it. Never mind. What team would you play for other than the Browns or the Steelers? I ain't never played for the Browns. That's the team I win. That's what I'm saying. I'm putting them in there because I know you won't pick them, but what Brown, Steelers, Patriots, and Cincinnati,

who would you play for? Who would you want to play for? Okay, so if we're giving that success is not guaranteed, then I want to play. But, you know, if the tools are there. Okay, yeah. I want to play where the most tools are. Where is that? Right now, since I can't pick New England, it's going to have to be Seattle because they end the Super Bowl.

Okay, okay, okay. You know where I'm playing. L.A. Brams. Yep. That sounds good. Love L.A. I love the weather.

Love everything. I'd be able to go to the Lakers games. Nah, no, you hate the traffic. Stop it, Joe. No, I'm good with the traffic. I'm going to leave early. Nighttime, all that. Back roads.

So listen, take it away and add that winning is a given. Where is your ideal place? Winning is a given. We're going to say it on three. We're going to say it on three. I know where my is. But if yours ain't there, You don't make no same.

And winning is a giving? Winning is a giving. Where's your ideal place? All right. Say it on three. Ready. Winning Browns. You can't pick them.

Winning is a given. Winning is a given? I'm going to Cleveland. We ain't won. They got to go win. Nope. We just said you can't pick that. Run it back.

Run it back. It's too late now. Okay. Who would you have picked? Cleveland Browns. You can't pick that. You want to go there and lose again. No.

I want to bring winning there. I said you can't pick that. If you said it's automatic winning. I said, take it back. I said, oh. I said winning is the given now. Yes.

You can't pick whoever I couldn't pick, which is Cleveland. Okay. So I'll pick Miami and you would pick whom? I would pick. It ain't nowhere else to go, Joe. What you mean? I would go. Miami.

No, I'm going to, I'm still going to the Rams. You're going to the Rams? I'm going to the Rams. I'm living in L.A. And we're winning chips in L.A. And then, And I'm sitting courtside to the Lakers games because I'm whooping ass on the field so far. So I'm getting to sit.

Boom. Court side games. Hey. Whoping in the L.A. Listen, you stay in L.A. You pay all that money on them property taxes. But I'm winning. Look, by that time, look, if we win a soup bowl, I'm making, right now, I'm a highest paid corner.

I'm making $35 million a year. I'm chilling. I'm being Florida. I can live there. Trust me. I don't need. With no income. I don't need all of it.

I'll still be fine out there. What are you talking about? You know how many people I can help? With the money, I don't save on taxes paying the government? Man, I hear you. You're talking about 50%, Joe. You just ask me where I want to be. So now you are.

I'm just saying, I'm just trying to give you the whole spill of why. Because it's too, you know, California's better because the weather, it's not, it's all human. I know, is it worth 50% of your pay? Not 50. It's only 12. I was like 12. And a half percent. When it comes down to it's 12 and a half percent.

That's what I'm saying. You getting another 12 and a half. You're getting another 12 and a half. Nothing. What are you talking about, Joe? Okay. All right. That's okay. That's on you. I'm gonna live in Cali and be telling.

When you got money and you know what I'm saying, you're stupid rich like Joe is, and you've got diamonds in your teeth that's worth more than my house. Come on, man. Come on, Debo. That's what it is, man. That's what it is. What's the best food spot in Pittsburgh? It's a place called Napa Prime. Mm-hmm. Yes. Napa Prime, fire. Napra Prime is fire.

Napa Prime is fire. Napa Prime is fire. That's what I would go with. That's what I would go. He's probably going to say something, goof. Go, go ahead. You're trying to Pittsburgh out. I know what you're going to do.

No, no, no. I'm definitely not going to say, none of them little. We're going to say for anyways. Definitely wasn't going to say that. I do not like the potatoes in my sandwich. But I'm going to go with Eddie V's. Over.

Naperva Prime? The Eddie V's in Pittsburgh was probably one of the best 80s that I had. I understand that, but I said over. You could pick the same thing if it is, if you just. trying to be different. I just want to be different because I know. Oh, I would go to off the hook.

Same thing. Come on. Off the hook. Nap of Prine. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're related. They related. They related. Yes, yes, yes, okay.

You know what I'm saying? Those are the three spots. Hey, Navarine. Off the hook. Off the hook. Eddie V. Wexford. Yes.

Those two. Get close to the dealership. Eddie, uh, V's that's downtown, right? Eddie V's downtown. Downtown. Yes. That's straight in the middle of Pittsburgh. Come on.

What we got? Man, oh man. I'm so glad I seen my dog Emmett Smith. That was lit. Gator Great. What non-football player could win Super Bowl? What? But non-NFL player would win a Super Bowl MVP.

If they're non-N-Fel player, how do they go win an MVP? Because they're just saying, who you think would be the best player that's in, like, the NBA, that could come to the NFL? They said non-N-N-Fel player. They ain't say NBA. Or that means that's a non-N-FL player, though. It could be MLB, it could be NBA, it could be anybody who you think could play in the league. Hockey player.

You know who I'm going with again. You already know. LeBron James, straight up. Defensive end, tight-in, wide out. There will be no defensive end. Stop, bro. Man, stop, bro. Stop, bro.

Defense? Stop, bro. Stop, bro. Stop playing. Now you gasing. Yeah. I'm a LeBron fan. I'm Jordan first, but I'm LeBron second. Akron.

No question. No defense. Brown not playing no defense? Hell no. Brown ain't playing no defense, bro. Man, that's just because he chooses not to run people over right now, man. That's hitting, bro. That's hitting.

I'm not disrespecting him either, but I'm looking at, okay. 265, 270? Brought, he got to take. 6-8? He, he, listen, bro. That's too tall? You coming out of there, you got to come in there and bang, bang, bang. Okay, wide receiver of tight-in.

Yes. Okay. I'll give you that one. I give you that one. Because, like, Jimmy Graham was out that joint tight-in, just straight jump balls. So I'm trying to think of who I would go. Who I got to think so who I go? Who I go?

See, I'm leaning more towards, like, who? John Jones. Oh, man. I like that. What position? Put him down there on the end. Outside, backer? Put him down there on the end, on the end of the line.

Okay, I like that. You can call it wherever you want. I'm putting him on the end of the line. John Bones Jones is a good one. Hey, his brother. Hey, Jones, them Jones boys now. Don't forget it. Yeah.

I got, yeah. Okay, I like that. I like that one a lot. Like that one a lot. For sure. For sure. And then if I didn't go LeBron, because I keep going, Bronn, Anthony Edwards. Okay.

Anthony Edwards. I go with that. I go with that. At Debo and Joe's. essential water need to spot yeah yeah they do yes yes yes essential water we need a sponsorship we got holler at your boy this man drinks a thousand liters all right look here check out check out check out check out the post how they disrespect how amazon disrespects the water okay the love for the water that i have joe now has i spread it on out you know what I'm saying

hydration is a main is a key factor to to James. Hey, six to eight leaders of date. That's what I do. I don't know who that is, though. I just say, do so. Oh, yeah. It's just people walking around,

people walking through. It's getting live. Essential water, hollet you boy. B-Bow, how long did it take you to? Yes. Amen. That's never going to leave you, brother. You oxygen-mad stuff.

Hey, man, I'm trying to tell you, how long did it take you to recover after the interception in the Super Bowl? So it didn't take as long as y'all think it took the recover. It did. It did, but it did, Debo. You keep lying because you over there on the oxygen mat. That's a long time. I'm trying to tell y'all to understand something.

Listen, we was in a deep, what was that 10, 11, 12-placed drive right at the end of the half. Okay? Yes. So you already are exhausted before you ran. I catch the rock right there. Gold line. We're going back 100. Now, don't forget, I zigzag.

You zigzag. I jumped. You hurtle. I don't. I hurdle. Mm-mm. I gave, I gave like, I gave everything I had. Yeah.

And that's all I had left. That was like a 130-yard run. Okay. Now, I'm just trying to tell you, I did hit my head. I'm trying to tell you, I'll just run the playback. I hit my head, my neck cracked. I was go get up, but as I went to go get up, my neck cracked again. And that's when I realized I was dead.

dead dog tired. Double neck crack. And did you fall on the ball, too? Did the ball knock the wind up just stomach or you didn't fall out? I was trying to give you a little out. The neck took all the way. The head, the neck took all the way. Ah.

And then when that happened, I realized, I, listen, I ain't catch my breath until I got in there at halftime. I ain't go lie. I had to get two IVs, too. Yes. Yeah. So 15 minutes. Good, good 15 minutes. Good 15 minutes.

Hey, I'm going to tell you right now, you know how you take that oxygen and then you pull that mask off? It's worse. because I never got the oxygen before, Debo. You know, I was, you know. Because then you really like, it's like, it's like, you really sucking through a straw damn, bro. Like, you get all that good fresh. Yeah.

You take it off, it's like, you know what I'm saying? Close your world. Like, bro. Denver, you ever played in Denver? Yes, I played in Denver. You pulled that air, oxygen? I ain't get the oxygen, though, Dee.

I'm trying to tell you. Bro, I thought I had. Boy, was in shape. Bro, I thought I had sickle cell something going on. Thought you were like Ryan. Bro, I was coming up out of it. Man, I played in Denver three times. Twice I left there.

Pissing Blood. Oh, see? That's bad. That was bad. That's no good. That's no good. That's no good. That's no good.

What we got next? Shannon. Oh, there is? Shee, Shee. Vobo, you was 15 minutes. Hey, y'all, look here, man. We got the guests coming in. Is that?

Oh, man. Is that the man? The man, the myth. The man, the myth. man the man the middle of the last man aka uh okay i okay i i just call him say shay call him shay look here aka mr uh mr shay shay need you say this say that mr say how it is mr mr saines like like he he he gonna give you something that that is granted said that is that from way back in the old day which you had the Cadillac he's gonna give you the barred against a brick wall

And the bumper wouldn't even been. He's going to give you some bars, some old school bars. He going to give you some bars. Look here, this is the man that afforded us the opportunity to be where we are right now. Secee meet him. Shaysay. Shout out. Shat-out.

Shat-outher. Shout-out-A-Say-Sanin. Mr. Dimple. I want to get the middle name. See? You know? You know? You know.

What about what about Ocho? He ain't got. Like, we ain't got no. We want to put Ocho in the headlock, huh? You're going to put Ocho in the headlock? No, no, no, no, no. That's what you want to do? I was talking about Q.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Listen, man, he over there getting signed up. I'm over here. I'm over here. Yeah. Right here?

What? Oh, that's a... I'm going to slide over. Let's go. Night? Let's go. Big back. What's up? What's up?

How you doing, babe? I'm good, man. Good to see you. How you guys doing, bro? I'm doing good. Hall of Fame. Ah, come on. Hall of Fame, the man that gave us opportunity we got right now.

We're very thankful for. No, man. I mean, I thought you guys did an unbelievable job filling in for Ocho and I this summer. And that was the whole purpose of it, was to try to get people and it's like, okay, let's see how they handle this situation. How serious are they? Because this is something that you can't do one, you know, do a money. And then, oh, man, something came up. I can't do it this week.

And that's what you run into a lot. Everybody says they want to do it. And then all of a sudden they get into it. And then they realize how much work it actually takes. And then all of a sudden they back away. But we reached out to James and he was like, I do it. I was like, I was like with James. I had been fighting for a while.

That's probably why you were surprised. I was very surprised. I'm like, I actually reached to talk me into it. She's like, just come on, just do it. You might like, you don't know. I'm like, dude, you know I don't. I'm like, all right. Because when Ash called me and said, what James says,

Debo said, he'll do it. I say, do what? Like, he'll do, you know, I was like, does he understand that? Like, this is like three times and it's like an hour to two hours. She's like, yeah. And then after you did it, she's like,

he really likes it and I think he wants to do one. I was like, serious? I was like, just find out how serious he is about doing it. and let's find someone that we can pair it with and go from there. And you guys, you know, you guys have done an unbelievable job. So I really appreciate you guys working at it. And the thing is that you try to get better and better each time you do it. And it's a lot of work that goes into it and you guys will put the work in.

So I'm extremely proud of me. Oh, man, thank you. Yeah, give me some cheat codes to be more successful at it. Because, I mean, you're doing it. I mean, you're doing it off as well. You know what I mean? You know, I think the biggest thing is be authentic. This is be who you are and everybody knows who you are.

I think the thing, the hardest thing for you is because, James, you didn't really do a whole lot of talking when you played. So now people are getting an opportunity to hear you. I was always talking. I was always on some bulljad. But your play speaks for itself. Everybody knows an undrafted free agent and they went on to be an all-pro, they've been a defensive player of the year,

to went to multiple pro bowls, won a Super Bowl. So your accolades speak for themselves. People don't realize just how much you have to say because you didn't have a lot to say when you actually played. You let your play do your talking. So now it takes a while for people like, okay, he has a lot to say. He knows what he's talking about. Me, I was just the opposite.

I started out. I talked when I played, still played at an elite level. And then once I was done, I went straight into television. And so people kind of heard my voice. But I think the biggest thing is with me. Look, Nightcap and Club Shaysay are two different platforms. Club Shashay is about the guest. My job is to, like, ask questions, try to make them feel as comfortable as possible.

And when they come sit down across the men and they look at me, they realize this man ain't here to judge me. My story is my story. I will allow them to tell it without over-talking them. Club Shesh, Ocho and I be on some bulljibed. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We're going to break down the games. But our motto is, come for the sports, stay for the stories.

And we have a lot of stories having, you know, obviously I'm about to be 58 in about five months. four months actually and to tell stories from high school and college and in the professional ranks and things that have happened in our life at Ocho in the same way. So I think that's the biggest thing.

Just be consistent. People like consistency. There's a reason why when you look at sitcoms, they came on at the same time every week. They didn't come on one. Okay, this week, Seinfeld came on Monday.

Next week you're going to come on Thursday. And next week he's going to come on Saturday. It's every single. And so people like to like, oh, man, Debo and Joe, they come on every Monday, Tuesday and Friday. They're going to come on at the same time. Okay, boom, let's lock that in. And so that's basically how you do it. But you have to be consistent and you can't be afraid.

Whatever you say, you have to stand behind it. And look, if you get better information, more information, you're like, okay, this is what I thought. But now more information has come forward and then you move off of that. But I think that's the biggest thing for me is what I've learned is that, look, I know what I know. What I don't know, I'm willing to ask. And if I'm wrong, I'll say I was wrong in this situation. Let me tell you why I said what I said.

But new information has come out and we move forward. So when you first got started, how was that process? What were you learning through and building through to where you're at where you're at now? It's your first spot. When we started Club Sheshay, Fox wrote it into my contract that I would do a podcast. I had no idea. the only person I knew had a podcast was Joe Rogan. I didn't understand anything about podcast and thing like that.

And so CJ, who's my EP, was at Fox. And he was trying to explain it to him. I said, well, all right, we'll do it. And it just so happens the first couple of years, we didn't do anything, but then COVID happened. And so they wanted an alternative to have people to be able to sit down and have something to watch and not be bored and have the monotty of the day just overtake them. And so I was like, well, CJ, man, I got to start this pod. I mean, what are you thinking?

I was like, man, who am I going to call? He's like, look in your phone, call the most famous people that you know, and see if they'll come on your podcast. It's going to be remote, so all they got to do it? I was like, okay, so I'm looking at my phone. I got Floyd Mayweather, I got Snoop Dogg. I got Hose Cube. I got Madison.

I got MasterPee. I got Magic Johnson. I was like, okay. So and and you know Reached out DeGil and But DeMarre de Rosen was the actual First guy that we did it live Because prior to that everything was

Was was uh Zoom Right And and we were still We were getting good numbers I mean my brother went on and he was the first He was my very first guest And he did a million views

And I was like CJ is that good See jean looked at me like Yeah Do you understand I was like is that good CJ? he's like, no, that ain't good. That's great.

I was like, oh, okay. So I just thought it was easy. And once we got that, because I think the thing is that I always ask the guess, is there anything that you don't want to talk about. And in the process of asking them that, I believe, because if you're sitting on that couch, I believe you have a career that's expansive enough and that span long enough that we can talk about things

that's not your most salacious or most embarrassing detail and you still have a very interesting story to tell. Gotcha. And so that's how I'll look at that. Nightcap is that when I was leaving, when I left undisputed, I went to the volume. And the thing I love about club, Shasha, it's weekly, but it's just hard to get around something that's weekly.

YouTube, it rewards frequency. So I needed something that we could do, you know, two, three times a week. And so Jamie Horowitz and I, who was at the volume, he's like, so what do you think about this? He says, you can own a space that nobody's in. I was like, okay, what kind of space is that? He said, have you thought about potentially, you know, after games? I was like, yeah, I like that. Yeah, that sounds good.

I said, we'll come on, we'll do like 30 minutes. We'll take the three of the four most important games and we'll discuss it. I was like, okay, yeah, I like that. He said, you want to do it by? I said, nah, I don't want to do it by myself. He said, who would you want to do it with? I said, Ocho. Instantly.

He said, Chad Johnson? I said, yeah. He said, why? I said, because he's unassuming. I said, he doesn't take himself too serious, and he's the antithesis of what I am. He don't take anything serious. I take everything serious.

So it's going to work because of his personality and my personality. And it just so happens that his agent used to work with my agent in the office. So I called him. I said, Doug, man, what Ocho doing? He's like, man, it's funny that you say that. Ocho's in town right now. I say, can you guys meet us at the palm? Say, I think this was like a Wednesday or Thursday. Can you meet us at the palm at say one o'clock? He's like, yeah, no problem. So he shows up and I'm telling him what I'm trying to do. I said, man, look here, check this out. I got this idea. Jamie and I, we got this idea. I said, what we would do is that after the game, after the Sunday night football game, after

a Monday night football game, we would go live. And we would talk about Sunday, obviously Sunday night, there's a lot more to talk about, but we'd talk about all the games and interesting stories. And he's like, I mean, I said, bro, I just, I didn't tell you the rest of it. He said, I don't care. He said, Unk, if you're doing it, I want to be a part of it. And the rest is that they say is history. That's so good.

That makes sense. Yeah, definitely. But that's the thing. I think the thing is that it's really hard. I take my head off to Colin because, and for the most part, speaks three hours every day. And it's basically him. He bounces things off, Jason, occasionally.

But for him to talk three hours a day by himself, me, I want a different person. I want a different perspective. Okay, this is what I think. What do you think? And then we go back and forth. Sometimes we debate that situation. And sometimes it was like, okay, we're going to agree to disagree. But for the most part, I need someone to have a different perspective.

A different perspective, a divergent opinion than what I have. because even though we kind of played the same position I was the tight end, he was a wide receiver, we see things differently. We see a lot of things differently. I'm going to hold guys accountable. But I realize now as I've gotten older and in this age of social media and Internet,

these guys are different, man. These guys, but I couldn't. You feel like it's just they are. But you know what would bother me, Debo and Joe, is that the lateness, I cared about winning. All this other brand building and all this other stuff

and TikTok videos and all this and I was talking to someone I was talking to Shirm last night. I said Sharm, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. If I was currently playing, ain't no way I do a podcast. No.

Not why I'm an active player. I could. I would be, you know, I would have a general idea of kind of direction that I want to go in but to have it and to be, because what happens

when you play good, you're going to want to talk when you play bad, you ain't got interested in. I'm so down. Now how much of that podcast is really truly 100% authentic because we're not going to be taking the comments and questions that come from the loss, especially things that may be directed towards coaches

and ownership and all that because you're still there. Because you know what they're going to say? See, Debo, if you got your ass off that podcast, you're to play. A thousand percent. And you're going to feel some type of way, hey, Joe, you out there getting cooked because you're up to you guys. Backped on.

Watch some tape. No question. And so that's how it is. And I think the thing is, look, for the longest time, when I first got into the league in 90, guys had a problem with people critiquing their play that didn't play the game. Yes.

They're like, you know what, I don't have a problem somebody critiquing my game if they played said game. Okay, so now, fast forward. We got guys that played the game. We played the game at an elite level. No, we don't know nothing. And now we don't know what we got.

Yeah. Yeah. The game is with the game. The game is what the game is. And that's what I say, too, how you say, when we know the plays, I'm not trying to say the corner gets beat on this play. But if you get blown coverage, I'm going to call it out. Like, that's not, you got to make sure you got your man.

Yes, exactly. Them not being able to take accountability. No, they won't. They won't because it's almost like, well, you hating. No. Have you seen my resume? I don't want to hate it. I've seen your resume and I've seen my resume.

Now, you tell me why I'm hating. I'm just saying, I'm not saying, And they take everything so personal. I'm not saying you a bad player. I'm saying that was a bad play, and you happen to be involved in it. 1,000 percent. But they can't take it like that. But I think the thing is, time told me something very long time ago.

He says, when you say something, it stings. It hurts more because he says, Shannon, you got a gold jacket. You went to Pro Bowls, you went to All Pro, and you won Super Bowls. you're just not some arbitrary guy saying something about said player. So what you say holds more weight. And I was like, you're right. You're absolutely right. And that's why I stopped speaking on the Hall of Fame

because they would take pro football Hall of Fame or says he doesn't think such as such as being the Hall of Fame. That ain't what I said. You asked me a question. I was like, so I just stopped speaking when it came to the Hall of Fame. I'm still going to critique hell out of these players. And I think for the most part, When I run into players, they will tell me this,

you're hard, but you're fair. And at the end of the day, that's all you can be. You be fair to the individual. It's not personal. I don't know the individual. I don't know what he does. I know if he's married. He has a girlfriend.

He has kids. I don't know anything about it. I don't know anything about his back. I'm just critiquing you about what I see on the field. That's how I judge you. I'm judging what you do on the field. I'm not judging you as a father. I'm not judging you as a son.

I'm not judging you as a brother. I'm judging you as a football player based on my knowledge and based on what I see. That's it. Yeah, I think they take too much of it personally and it's like an impersonal attack on them. No, it's an attack on what you're doing as a player. Correct. In that position. On that play.

Yes. On that play or that game. Dale, you might have messed up the whole damn game. You know what I'm saying? Well, hopefully you didn't mess up the whole game, man. But guys, I want to congratulate you guys. You guys are doing an unbelievable job, man. means a lot that you guys, you thought enough of me and my platform and to want to to have

your own platform up under my platform. That means a lot. Continue success. Continue to work hard. And it's only up. The first year is always the hardest. It does get easier and easier. But because it gets easier, that doesn't mean you have to work any less hard.

You have to work harder in order for it to grow. And I'm sure you guys will continue this great success. I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you, boss. Yes, sir. Look here, baby. Hey, how do you want to run that one? You want to do it right now with the...

Let's go. Shea, thank you for coming on. Appreciate you, boss. What time we got? In the building. What we got now, come? 9-54. What are you on, Debo?

We got six minutes. We got time. Sweets back over here. We got another one up there. Boy, rap, rap. Cip. I think it's time to wrap it up, Debo. Thank you for

Already look here, man Man We want to thank you We want to thank you guys To coming out here Look here Let's talk about the game Who you got

You know who I got Seahawks You got Seahawks I got New England They already know what it is Okay What's your school 27 24

27 24 Oh what I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with the same thing Except it's go be the Patriot Okay I can respond Look here, man. We want to thank you all for joining on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please like, subscribe, and download the show.

We'll be back on Monday. Yes, yes, yes. At the crib, talk about the Super Bowl and how the Patriots went on here and did everything I said they was going to do. And how Joe, once again, is going to be safe. Hey, Debo, you was right. Joe. Go Seahawks.

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