Club Shay Shay - The Bubba Dub Show - Bubba Dub reacts to Tom Brady ignoring Terrell Owens in their 1 on 1 interview!!!

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Bubba Dub is BACK and he’s joined by NFL Hall of Famer, Terrell Owens!! T.O. and Bubby start the show by dispelling the rumors that he was a locker room cancer. (13:29)Then, T.O. drops a bombshell that he reached out to Tom Brady to join the Tampa Bay Bucs after Antonio Brown left the team. Tom (39:10)Next, Dub and T.O. discuss Bronny James’ slow start in summer league, and how nepotism works in professional sports. T.O. reveals the head coaches he should’ve never got an opportunity to coach a team. TRASHH!! (40:50)After, T.O. gives us his NFL GOAT, ranks himself among the best Wide Receivers to play the game, lists the Top 3 Quarterbacks he’s played with, and why he would take Tony Romo over Donovan McNabb. (42:51)Finally, Bubba encourages T.O. to shoot his shot at JLo, T.O. participates in the HELL NAHH segment, and Bubba steps aside and lets T.O. give Donald Trump Trashh of the Day! (1:01:54)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Volume Alright now Y'all know what time it is Y'all know what time it is right here today I got a special show for y'all I need y'all to start this to five people right now Cause I done told you I was gonna do it and I done done it

Yeah, start it to five people right now And I don don't want to hear, man, this show too long. No, it ain't. It ain't too long. This is what y'all been doing. Well, guess what? I'm giving it to you today. I'm giving it to you today. I got a legend in the building.

Who you got, though? T.O. Who? T.O. Who? T.O. Let's get to it. Sad news, sad news. R.I.P. to Kobe's father, Jelly Bean Bryant. R.I.P. to him.

He passed away. Also, we lost a football player too, Jacoby Jones. Our prayers, our hearts, our condolences go out to those two individuals who lost their lives, to the family. We're praying for y'all. Stay strong. And, you know know God knows best So

Let's take a moment of silence today And To mourn these two people Jelly Bean Bryant And Jacoby Jones Y'all if y'all don't mind Hey now Y'all doing a little too much on Brunny

Y'all Y'all acting a little too much on Bronny. I don't like it. No, he ain't did nothing this whole month. He ain't did nothing. But he did show us he's athletic. We know that. We know he can jump out the gym.

We know he can play defense. But for a score, he ain't got it right now. He need to go back in the lab. He need a Japanese, a Chinese, an Asian, Korean, somebody in the lab with a book like this studying. Go left. Go right. Huh? Spin move.

Come off the pitch. He need somebody. Get up on the ring. Where you at, fam? I'm going to need you to get in there and work with Bronny. You say he got a Bugatti engine? See, right now he got a Honda. Now, I still believe in you, Bronny. Most everybody he got a boot, got an engine? Shit, right now he got a Honda. Now, I still

believe in you, Bronny. Most everybody else that in the whole dorm, man, the boy trash. Now, I ain't ready to say that yet because I told y'all, if you 18, 19, 20 years old, I can't call you trash right now. I can't do it, y'all. Only when they get 21 is when I call them

trash. They still babies to me, man. I'm a grown-ass man. You ain't a grown-ass man until you over 21 in my book. So I can't be calling them 18, 19, 20-year-old trash. I can't do it. Even though he playing like it. Because he damn sure playing like it.

I think he 0 for 70 behind the three-point line. Stop shooting them motherfuckers, Brunny. Go back down there to the two-pointers and pull up game and do them. Three-point game ain't in right now, fam. Maybe it's the pressure on you right now, bro. But you got plenty of time to get it right. I think you will.

I think you will. But it's okay. It's going to get better. Ain't got no trouble about to go up because right now you're low. But I don't get it, y'all. He's a second-round 55 pick, 55th pick. What you expect? We all expecting to play like he was the number one. Stop it.

Oh, because he's bronze, son. He shouldn't be. Maybe so, maybe not. I don't know. Jalen Brown, you pillow talking on the sideline. Bam. Ain't nothing wrong with what you said. You feel like you don't think he a pro? Cool. But don't go back on Twitter talking

about how you just not gonna do that. Stand on it. Maybe that's why your ass ain't on the USA team. They already know your thoughts and how you feel. Don't don't do that. Stand on it. Feel like the man ain't a pro Damn it he ain't a pro in your eyes

That's cool But don't let the world Don't let these people Get in your ear Start making you feel bad for what you said You ain't said nothing wrong fam That's your opinion man That's your opinion

That's cool That's all Don't let the people You know persuade you to go back Let me go back And say this man Cause Cause it's father in the league

And it's a great thing We know it's a great thing Family We talking about this game From what you went and seen What did you see You feel like you ain't seen enough Cool

And they just leave it at that There's some people on here Mad at me Dub you know the boy Trey Man you You know what I'm saying You get suck

I ain't sucking up to nothing. Bron don't pay me. I ain't never bet him. I'm going to keep it 100 on this show. Yes, Bron and Johnny been playing like absolutely dookie. He have. But do I think he's dookie? No, I don't.

Do I think he belong in the NBA? I do. But do he need to prove some more? Yes. That's the first assessment I can give him. Some of y'all, y'all don't give a damn. And I get it. Maybe y'all know somebody right now

that's better than Bruyne, but didn't get that chance. Just like my bro T.O. said, hey, we already know life ain't that. America's not, we know that. America's not. We know that. There's one thing about me on this show. I'm going to keep it 100, man.

I ain't on that sugarcoat shit. I ain't trying to be on nobody's good side and all that side. And the only good side I want to be on is God's. That's it. The only good side I want to be on in life is God. Nobody else. I don't mind coming on here and saying that Bronwyn, I mean, Bronwyn James playing like Dukie. He know it.

Your father know it. Everybody know it. But does that mean he's Dukie? No. That's all I'm saying. Matter of fact, man, I'm feeling so good today. Man, start sharing this show. I got something for y'all to do.

Start sharing this show, because what I'm going to do this do. Start sharing this show because what I'm going to do this year, football season, basketball season, I'm going to start inviting y'all out to the games with me. Yeah,

I'm going to start inviting you out to the games with me and we're going to have a ball. How about that? You're going to be in the show. What? Absolutely. So keep tuning in

each and every week watching us do what we do and you're going to get that invite to a game what your boy do you ain't got to worry about no flight you ain't got to worry about no room you ain't got to worry about no food

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Tell y'all some real shit going on right now, man. I told y'all, if y'all ain't been watching baseball, you better tune in. Shoei or Tony for the Dodgers? Code. Damn. One of the best pitchers in the game andani for the Dodgers? Cold. Damn. One of the best pitchers in the game and one of the best hitters in the game. Do you understand what I'm saying? You a pitcher throwing the ball like, I'm talking about 102 miles an hour,

throwing the ball like Randy Johnson, but hitting it like Barry Bones from Japan. If I'm a major league baseball coach, I'm going to Japan. I'm on the first flight to Japan right now to go find me one. Damn. Magic Johnson got heels. Attorney making for 10 years. They got a $700 million contract and he's worth every penny. I'm going to a damn baseball game.

I don't give a damn. Y'all telling me Bryce Harper, the best player, and ain't with the Nationals and left, they won the damn World Series. How he the best? Now, that guy, Jordan Alvarez, for the Astro, cold. That's a bad motherfucker if you ask me. Jordan Alvarez, for the Astro, a bad motherfucker. I don't know too much about baseball, but I'm about to find out.

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I want to know who the best pitcher in the game. Somebody right now let me know who the best pitcher in the game. And I want to let you know they ain't better than a time. Gently, Jackie Chan. Boy, they rolling over in sushi rolls right now.

Excited. They excited right now. I told you I'm on fire. I ain't playing. I told you I'm on fire. I ain't playing. I told you I'm going to step my game up, motherfucker. I'm going to step my game up. My freaky bulldog done had puppies. She got something. Come here. Early Christmas present for me?

Lord, my dog got my dog in the middle of the living room. Come here. I put my keys in my baby mama's mouth for my dog. He lying. That's what them dog breakers do. Them dog breakers got them dogs in the middle of their living room, and they delivering the damn dog they sell. They don't even deliver their own damn kid,

but they're delivering them damn dog. That's real talk. See. Welcome back to the Bubba Dub Show. It's your host, Bubba Dub. Today, we got a legend in the building. I'm talking about a real legend. I'm talking about a Hall of Famer. I'm talking about one of the Bubba Dub Show. It's your host, Bubba Dub. Today, we got a legend in the building. I'm talking about a real legend. I'm talking about a Hall of Famer. I'm talking about one of the greatest trash talkers that ever played a game.

I'm talking about T.O., everybody. Everybody give it up for T.O., everybody. Give it up. T.O., how you doing, fam? I got to give it up for myself, too. You know what I mean? For some of the haters that don't want to give it up, I got to give it up for myself, too. Man, you know you be all. You know of the haters that don't want to give it up, I got to give it up for myself too. Man, you know, you be all, you know, you be in some shit too, yo. Nah, I don't be in nothing. You just think I be in the,

you think I be into some shit. I don't be in nothing. Okay, I'm finna show you some shit that you was in. You probably, to you it wasn't shit, but to me, it was funny as hell. When you posted that video of you and all them white women in that video with now sister and now, they tore your ass up in them comments.

Oh, they did, didn't they? Yeah, that was for my clothing line. I know what it was for, but the people didn't. Well, that just shows you sometimes the ignorance of our people. We can be ignorant at some times, but it had nothing to do with me excluding sisters.

Actually, that video, it was imprompt with me excluding sisters actually that video it was impromptu i was down there to shoot a video some content for my wine and i think my clothing line so the girl that i had to create some of the content or what have you those people those girls and mostly the girls it was a hairstyling stu uh salon like right next door that were her friends. We just impromptu like literally did the video. We honestly, we had done that video probably three or four months before we actually posted it. So again, it went viral all for the wrong reasons. But again, that just shows you kind of like, you know, where we are in America.

that just shows you kind of like you know where we are in america we don't really like to kind of like we're quick to react without even really understanding the context of what's going on but it is what it is man you know we hard don't want to know you know the sister feel like they using all those men to the white women and they get some more they would get regularly they would get on your ass fam i i get it so again it is what it is man hey and i was in the comments being messy look at it that would mean hey my sisters my black ladies my beautiful queens out there i'm sorry hey it was it was an innocent it was an honest thing that i was doing hey you just got to understand the context of which things you're presenting to me. It's okay if you love white women. God damn it, you love

white women. I love people regardless of your color, your ethnicity, your background. Love has no color to it. And I understand being a black man, obviously, like I said, being a professional athlete,

people, there's a stereotype that comes with that. Obviously, obviously, like I said, being a professional athlete, people were, there's a stereotype that comes with that. So obviously, again, I've dated white women. I've dated black women. For the people that don't know, I have kids by black women. But clearly people don't take the time to really get that type of information before they start going, you know, commenting and popping off at the mouth, you know, about certain things about my love life, who I like, who I don't like. Why does it even matter? Because you're a celebrity. I like who I like. I love who I like. I love whatever the case may be. Let me be me. Well, you're T.O., baby. You're a celebrity, man. You know, people are going to be nosy, Faye.

You know that. I get it. I'm with you. I respect it. You just know that's how the world is, man. They're going to be all in your business. All in your business. That is for sure.

But let's get straight to it. Let's get straight to it. Let's get straight to it, T.O. You're a Hall of Famer, wide receiver, had over 1,078 receptions, over 153 touchdowns. But at the end, they say you was a counselor in the locker room. How did that make you feel, fam? Like, where did that bullshit come from, man?

If you listen at it, you're on the very platform in which a lot of that information has come from, the media. Yeah. Social media platforms. But if you think about it, for the people that are listening to what you just said about me being a cancer or a distraction in the locker room, where did that information come from? Who did that information come from? If you think about it, and you've got to be smart about it,

have you ever heard any of my teammates say that? I haven? And I haven't, I haven't. Again, I'll leave it. I'll leave it at that. Not one of those guys media wise has never been in a, never been in the locker room with me.

Even Marcus Spears, who I played with the Dallas Cowboys from oh six to oh nine. When I was, when I was being inducted on the, yeah, I was in the process of being inducted into the Hall of Fame. When I got inducted into the Hall of Fame, obviously he works with ESPN. He's heard some of these same narratives.

He went on and he looked at that camera and basically told everybody, where did you hear that from? I was in the locker room with this guy for three years. Not one time was there an issue in that locker room where it reflected or backed up what the media was saying as far as me being a distraction in the locker room. Bro, it is what it is at the end of the day. I feel like your same passion for the game is the same as

Tom Brady. Tom Brady's passion doesn't, you know what I'm saying, he didn't get called out on it like you would or Dez Bryant would. Well, you know, I'm just being honest, black players would. Like, you know what I'm saying, he didn't get called out on it like you would or Dennis Bryant would. Well, you know, I'm just being honest, black players would. Like, you know, we live in a world now where, you know, I feel like back, maybe back then or maybe now, if they were saying that about you, they would particularly mess up your

contract, a big contract that you're trying to get when they do these smear campaigns on our, you know, players like that. So that's just, I guess the way I was looking at it and thinking, because like, I know you personally, bro. I know you good people. And, but I know the younger T.O. that's probably worse than I know how you is now. Like you ain't whooping nobody ass in them locker room fan when they got that line. No, no, I've always been a person. Now, if you cross me, then, you know, we may have to, you know, throw some hands

or anything, you know, something like that. But never really had to do that. I had one incident in Philly with a former teammate, Hugh Duggies. But again, we've talked about it. Yeah, we've talked about it.

But that, you know, that was that, man. I grew up, you know, in a household under the roof of a lady named Alice Zine Black. And she basically just told me, like, grew up you know in a in a household under the roof of uh of a lady named alizine black um and she basically just told me like look you know you're not gonna take no butt whoopings you know if you take a butt whooping then when you get to the house you're gonna take one

you're gonna get another butt whipping um but again at the end of the day you know we were taught not to let anybody run over you uh not to let anybody disrespect you. And so early on in my career growing up, you know, I was skinny, scrawny, you know, didn't have a lot of strength, didn't have the confidence to combat some of the things that came my way. So I got picked on, teased a lot, namely for being, you know, dark skinned, you know, dark skinned dudes weren went in at that time. Um, I got picked on for not being, like I said, I wasn't the most handsome guy growing up. Um, but again, I grew up, you know, where you have to protect yourself. Um, you know, people

are going to try to, you know, they're going to go as far as you let them. And I'm more than going to let, let anybody disrespect me. Um, and, and me, especially in my latter years. Early on, like I said, I was skinny. I was kind of afraid a little bit, got beat up, teased, but it came to a point when you push a person, you push them to the corner, it's fight or flight

at that point in time. I can't fight either, T.O., so shit, don't feel bad. I can't fight now. You can fight now. I can't. I'm going to call the law. I'm just being honest. I ain't finna do.O. so shit don't feel bad I can't fight now you can fight now I can't I'm going to call the law I'm just being honest I ain't finna do no talking

no fighting nothing like that my grandma told them look if they too big for you and you can't you don't feel like you can beat them up

pick up something hit them and run so let's talk about it T.O. your great NFL career I know you're going to talk about it a plenty of times but we're going to dive into that nfl career i know you're gonna talk about it plenty of times but we're gonna dive into that when did you really know you was nice like that

uh probably like probably like in my maybe say fifth sixth seventh year in the league now that's in san francisco yeah that's yeah uh again i was i was i was raw i was raw. I was raw to the position, new to the position, especially experience-wise. Again, I went to a small school, Division IAA at University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, UTC, Southern Conference. But again, I wasn't one of those notable guys. I wasn't an All-American or anything coming out of college. Even out of high school, I wasn't your four- or five-star athlete going into college. So everything that I gained, like I said, it was a developmental process.

When you think about Randy Mouse, who stepped on the scene straight out of Marshall, his first year, he started as a rookie. I mean, he was putting up instant numbers. He was putting up instant 1,000 yards, 10-plus touchdowns. I had to groom myself to catch up to where Randy Moss was initially stepping into the league. So it was a gradual process for me to get from A A to Z for everybody to see kind of like that maturation process. Again, I was Terrell who groomed himself to be a receiver who became T.O. in the process, namely because of John Madden and Pat Summerall, who obviously covered a lot of my my early years, especially my rookie year in San Francisco.

But, you know, bro, I just had to kind of like develop myself into the receiver that I became. So same similar situation that my son is in now, playing for four, what, three or four schools, three schools, playing for, what, three or four head coaches out of the four or five years that he's played at the collegiate level. His last stint at Missouri State put up some decent numbers considering he didn't really start, but he got

his foot in the door. So again, you know, same path. Was you able to learn anything from Jerry Rice? I mean, yeah. I mean, just honestly, how to run routes. I was like, I keep telling you, I was raw green, didn't really know much about the receiver position. My senior year, I continued to play basketball on the basketball team. I played three years of basketball where I walked on my sophomore season, played through my senior season. through my senior season, my senior year. The sports information director, they basically asked me, was I going to play my senior year in basketball because there was some opportunity to play in the NFL. But me, I didn't think I had the skill set to do that.

So I'm a fan of basketball. We talk about basketball all the time. My two goats, one and two, is MJ and Coley. We go back and forth about this whole LeBron stuff. My love has always and affectionately been for basketball.

That essentially, my basketball skill set essentially helped me on the football field. Just with hand-eye coordination, being able to escape defenders, you know, stance and start, get around defenders, this and that and the other. But yeah, man, they thought that I was going to just really concentrate on football because I had the opportunity to play in the NFL, but I didn't think that.

So I just continued to play basketball. And then when the scouts came in and wanted to work me out, the basketball coach excused me for those days. I had my pro days. I went out, ran. We did the shuttle. We did all those drills for them to evaluate right as the draft approached. And so, again, I increased my stock, my value with some of those individual workouts. I increased my stock, my value with some of those individual workouts, but my stock really rose and I really got on the radar off a lot of teams that needed receivers, big receivers at that time during the senior bowl. Yeah, I'm putting you on game.

I'm educating you. That's what we're here for. That's what we're here for. Bring us into T.O. world, baby. That's what we're here for. Bring us into T.O. world, baby. That's what the fans want. Next year, this summer, I will be shooting my documentary

with Prime Amazon. It's going to air next year, 2025. Maybe somewhere prior to next football season or somewhere mid-football season, it's going to air. I got a lot of friends, family, coaches, former players,

former coaches that's already agreed and committed to the documentary. So a lot of things, again, that you speculated in the beginning about the whole locker room thing, all of that's going to be put to rest. And it's going to show you how the media really kind of unfairly

criticized and characterized me not only as a player, but as a the rest and it's going to show you how the media really kind of unfairly criticize and characterize me uh not not only as a player but as a person as well um we're going to have some some credible uh players and people on that documentary to really show you how really kind of how messed up and corrupt uh that business is as far as the media is concerned do you think that kind of hurt you in the eyes of the other NFL owners or maybe even potential? No, absolutely. Absolutely. No, no, no doubt about it. At the end of the day, man, I was raised by two strong women and my mom and my grandma. I know right from wrong. I was raised the right way.

Again, if I was if I was even a half or a smidge of the person that the media has characterized or portrayed throughout the course of my career, don't you think that I would probably be, I've been out of the league, what, 14 years now? Don't you think I probably would have been in some type of trouble that would have followed me off the field or outside of football at some point in time? You would think that if that was my character in which they portrayed. But again, God has a way of kind of revealing things. And I've always stayed true to who I am and who I was on and off the football field. And when I was on the football field, I was a different person. I consider myself sort of like one of those Marvel comics or superheroes. When you think of like, you think about Hulk Hogan. Not Hulk Hogan.

I'm stressed at. When you think about the Hulk, you got the Hulk. And then the human version of that, that's David Batman. You think about Superman. You got Superman. You got Clark Kent. When you think about Spider-Man, you got Spider-Man. You got Peter Parker. And then as it relates to me, how I'm trying

to make that comparison, I'm the same way. You got the superhero part of who I am, that's T.O. And you got the human side of who I am, that's T.E.R.R.O. So a lot of people got to see and understood that superhero version. They only know T.E.R.O. based on how the media covered me, how they portrayed me. And that's really only the information a lot of people that know of me, that's all they know of me is how the media basically kind of just gave information in regards to me.

But they don't know me off the field. They know the T.O. persona. They don't know the off the field persona of Terrell. How do you feel about Brungie James right now? Oh, man, I mean, I'm sure he has a little bit of pressure. Naturally, you're going to say you don't, but again, when you step on that field and

obviously you got cameras and you have so many expectations thrust upon you, you're going to feel it a little bit. I mean, you've even heard some of the greatest talk about, you know, some of the biggest games that they played in. So, you know, Brunny hadn't played any big games, but it's, there's some similarities when you're thrust into that, that limelight, you're thrust into, especially now with so many media outlets, social,

social media platforms. Again, his dad is one, arguably one of the greatest basketball players to ever live. So now you're trying to not necessarily fill his shoes, but you're trying to live up to some expectations because, again, him as Bronte James, he wants to make himself proud. He wants to make his family proud. So again, until he gets comfortable and really just kind of just block out all the noise. And I saw the interview, you know, online where LeBron said, you know, Bronny doesn't give a fuck. You know what I mean? He said he don't really care about the noise. There's a little bit of, I'm sure there's a little bit of truth to that. But again,

we're all human, human nature. You know, we're all going to, you know, we all hear what the outside noise is saying. But again, he has to just stay on the path. And once he gets comfortable, once he starts to feel really comfortable with the system, the guys around him, the coaches that allowed him to just go be free and play, then that's when you're going to see Brunny James. He has to just go out there now and not really try to live up to the expectations of everybody else just go out there and play his style of play and then i think everything will fall into place for him what do you say to the people who feel like uh other people

are better than him and they ain't get the chance i mean that's that's just how the world works in corporate america there are a lot of people that go go to school, qualify for a number of jobs, and then there are people that, because of relationships, because of the family members or whatever that case may be, they leapfrog in front of people that are very qualified for the job.

So, you know, that's just... I mean, life is unfair sometimes, bro. I know you get seen when Jalen Brown got caught, you know, pretty much pillow talking, saying that he didn't think Bernie James was a pro. And then he came back out later and tweeted that, you know, he felt like he's going to do good. I don't like that person.

Like, stand on what you said, whether it was in private or public. I mean, he didn't say nothing wrong. He just said he didn't feel like Bernie James was a pro yet and that he should go to the G League and work on his game. But, you know, people trying to make it out to be a big thing, it's just his opinion at the end of the day. You took the words right out of my mouth. At the end of the day, that's his opinion.

Again, some people may frown upon it because he's who he is. Maybe sometimes you shouldn't speak out loud. You should just keep your thoughts to yourself. But it is what it is. Do I feel like he's ready to be playing at that level? Who am I to judge?

There's a lot of people that are in the league right now that probably shouldn't be playing. Look at Giannis' brother. Shit, I can play better than him. I probably can play just as good if not better than Giannis' brother. But because of that relationship, because of who Giannis is and the power that he has, he's on that squad. Like I said, it happens every day in America.

It doesn't matter what type of position or job you may have. Like I said, it happens all the time with owners, CEOs, general managers, managers of different companies. They're going to hire their family members if they feel that there's a position for them to fill. So they go on in the NFL now with the coaches. Do they go on in the NFL now with the coaches? Do they go on in the NFL right now? Owners do it. Coaches do it at every level, at every level. You got guys that are in different levels, different ranks,

in basketball, whether it's baseball, football, or whatever the case, and guys just kind of just leapfrog in front of people you have people that don't even have a lot of experience and then they they they jump up to offensive coordinators or they jump up to uh to defensive coordinators then all of a sudden their head coaches after a year or two of being a graduate assistant um there's really no finite you know tier system to where you gradually sometimes sometimes for some people, you gradually work your way up. Some people do.

Some people don't. Like I said, because of relationships. Again, there was a guy, Todd Haley, that I got coached by in Dallas. He went on, I think, Pittsburgh or whatever the case may be. He only got those jobs because of his dad.

He wasn't the best receiver coach that I ever had, but he got that job a few years back, four or five years back. The guy, Joe Jones, that was the head coach at the New York Times. Yeah. Who was he? I know damn nobody. I know damn a damn nobody right but he got the job again why it had to be because of relationships or something he can like there are so many i've i've he was a receiver coach i know a number of receiver coach that i've been coached by larry

kersey ray sherman, David Cully. David Cully got a job with the Texans just for a year. But those guys, George Stewart, who was my special teams coach early on in San Francisco, then he was my receiver coach my last probably three, four years in San Francisco, definitely could have been a head coach or qualified to be a head coach. If you listen to him correctly, all those guys are black, too. That's a problem, too. I mean, it's a problem when you got the Rooney rule.

They tell you right there it's a damn problem. Right, but at the end of the day, you know, like I said, sometimes life be lifin' and it's not fair for us people of color. So again, I don't see nothing wrong with how LeBron James has positioned himself, put himself, I call it POP, position of power. He put himself in a position of power by what he's done on and off the court of that basketball court. And again, he's afforded his son the opportunity to be on an NBA roster.

Do I think it's fair? Probably not, because look at some of these guys that have worked their butts off, have dreamed of playing in the NBA. And again, you compare last year's 55th pick to this year's 55th pick with Brunny, look at the pay disparity. You get what I'm saying? So again, I'm not hating on it. Like I said, there's a little bit of give and take you can have with those situations. But again, I'm not mad at it at all. Like I said, it happens every day in white America. Give me your greatest football player of all time.

And don't bullshit either. Your greatest. Greatest? Yeah. Who knows? Ain't number greatest. Greatest? Yeah. Who knows? Ain't number one. Greatest? Yeah.

Greatest football player of all time? All time. Greatest football player of all time? For you, though. Just for you, in your opinion.

Man, I'm thinking, bro. I've never really been – I'm sorry. I've never been asked that question. The greatest football player of all time. Bro, that's tough. I mean, because there's so many positions. One name come to mind, but his career got cut short, and he was a dual-sport athlete.

Both of these guys were dual-sport athletes. And that's between Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson. cut short, and he was a dual sport athlete. Both of these guys were dual sport athletes. And that's between Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson. You look at what those guys did. Like, you got to consider those guys, when you're talking about the greatest football player of all time, you got to consider those because they played other sports. And they were damn good at both of them. So to not put those two

in consideration for the greatest player of all time football player, bro that's for you not to say Tom Brady, they gonna kick your ass man, I ain't really stunned Tom Brady, to be honest Tom Brady ignored me, bro

I think it may have been his last year in Tampa Bay. The year that A.B. went crazy on him. Okay, when he went on the jet. Right, and I know, and I think everybody knew, I think about a year and a half, two ago, and I was talking about coming back. And so at that point in time, it was at the end of the season.

I didn't need to play a full season. They just needed somebody to at least fulfill some holes with A.B. leaving at the receiver position. I think my guy Chris Godden was hurt or something. He was still struggling with the hamstring or something like that. So, again, I reached out to him through Randy and a couple other people just to come in and just play third down, third down the red zone situations. You know, this dude really ignored me, bro. I reached out to him and he tried to play me off through. I reached out through Brandon.

He was just like, and I know this probably going to make news or whatever, but I don't really care. Because it just shows you how like the lack of respect is. But then when they get in front of you, they want to act like they respect you. So me, understand that I'm a Hall of Famer now. You've seen what I've done on the football field, but it shows you a little bit of how arrogance comes into play.

So that first week, they went to play Philly. So I reached out to my contact, like, yo, because Tom Brady could have made that happen. He pulled the trigger. I reached out to some people

in the Bucs organization. And again, they were pulling their fillers out. I had been showing, I had been working out, showing tape, whatucs organization. And again, they were pulling their fillers out. I had been showing, I had been working out, showing tape, what I was doing. And again, I don't need to do anything but play third down the red zone, bro. You missing

AB, who essentially, that's all he was really doing. He was playing sparingly. Me understanding the game, understanding how to play with a future Hall of Famer and Tom Brady and trying to add to what they already had. Bro, they had just won the Super Bowl.

He could have had, honestly, he could have had his eighth Super Bowl. Just think about what you just said. Hold on. Think about what you just said. If you could have played with Tampa Bay, he could have potentially had his eighth Super Bowl. How do you think he would have looked to fail by then? That's probably a reason why he ignored you.

What's that? That's probably was a reason why he ignored you. Why? Just think about what I'm saying here. You come back. Help them get an eighth ring. He knows the tension going to be on you, T.O. Not him.

But didn't you just hear what I said prior to that? I said there was a lot of arrogance. Because I guarantee you, he thought he could do that and win it without A.B. Correct. Trust me. Because they went to Philly. They beat Philly. They came back.

This was the year the Rams won the Super Bowl. They came back and they played the Rams at home. I think they were getting whacked, mollywhacked in the Super Bowl. They came back and they played the Rams at home. I think they were getting whacked, mollywhopped in the first half, and then they end up coming back to make the game close, but they came up short. So that's where I'm telling you, that's where I would have added value to at least help, to at least help probably win that game. And then he's on a path to win his eight Super Bowl. But hey, bro, it is what it is. Trust me. I know I reached out. I had people to reach out.

He knew that I could have possibly helped him. But again, it is what it is, bro. Yeah, you know, at the end of the day, like you say, it's arrogance. It's politics. They, you know. Bro, he couldn't have, trust me, quarterbacks are in position, especially someone of his caliber. He's just like, he's just like P.O.P., a player in a position of power, just like LeBron.

If he really wanted to be brought, he could have made that happen. Speaking of quarterbacks, give me your top three quarterbacks that you ever played with. No particular. Oh, I played Steve Young, Steve Young. Ryan Fitzpatrick. The Magic Man. And I'm going to go.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Even though he got me up out of Dallas, him and him and Whitney and Gary. You better not say it. You better not say it. You're going to put Romo over me now. I'm going to go Romo. I'm going to go Romo.

No, no, no. Bro, trust me. When you talk about fundamentals of the game, does McNabb have a stronger arm than Romo? Yeah, absolutely. But when you talk about fundamentals, accuracy, both of them being able to make plays outside of the pocket with their feet.

Bro, again, I was on path to do a lot of great things in Philly with McNabb, but I accomplished a lot in a short amount of time in those three years with Romo as well. I played with a number

of quarterbacks to know that the skill set and the ability of quarterbacks. And, again, when you talk about, like, ball placement, accuracy, reading defenses, just really just dissecting and putting the ball where it has to be, whether it's with Zilk, a little bit of touch, Romo possessed a lot of that. And again, there's a number of players that has been on the receiving ends of some of Donovan's passes or what have you. But trust me, he wasn't the most accurate and the most, I guess, quarterback, the best quarterback with touch when needed. Okay, question.

So how did Romo prepare you before games, and how did McNabb prepare you before a game? What's the difference? What was their intellect at the end of the day? No, both are smart individuals. They didn't prepare. My coaches and my individual preparation prepared me for games. coaches and my individual preparation prepared me prepared me for games um it was up to myself to prepare myself a game and and my my receiver coaches um as far as the overall goal of what we

were trying to accomplish we we all knew what was at stake we understood that the defensive schemes that we prepared ourselves against we understood the mism mismatches. And it was all about, okay, well, which quarterback possesses and understands the defenses most to make the most out of those mismatches. Again, like I said, I played in 21 games in Philadelphia, and I had 20 touchdowns, bro. And three years with the Dallas Cowboys, I had 38 touchdowns bro and three years with with uh with uh with dallas with the dallas cowboys i had 38 i had 30 i had 38 touchdowns so i was bro i was i was scoring touchdowns at a high clip bro and it was it was to a point to where honestly when i stepped on the field i felt unstoppable it wasn't

really anything that really could stop me but but. So Darrell Revis never stopped you? Yeah, there were times. I mean, when you look at those statistics, you'll bring them up. Yeah, it could be miscued in a sense where it looks like, okay, well, he stopped me. But again, there are times during the course of the game that I was open. I had him beat, but I didn't get the ball. And then there are times, again, the down and distance,

it dictated where the ball was probably going to go, and he was smart enough to know that. And again, it was either bad throws or very contested defending passes. So not taking away nothing from him, but I've scored on Darrell Reifus before. Right, but if you look at the games, again, break down the tape, there are times that I was open, quarterback didn't make the right read, I didn't get the ball. So it looks like, okay, well, I only caught like two or three balls

for X amount of yards. So he shut us down. What about the wrong reads of the QB when I was open and I didn't get the ball? How does that make you feel though? It's good for football talk. No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm talking about you working your ass off. You ain't been getting the ball, but now when you are open, you're not getting it. How does that make you feel? That's part of the game. It's almost like being a basketball player. You're open and you shoot a shot and you don't make it. What can you do about it?

Those are just, what I call it, missed opportunities. But for me, unfortunately, there's a little difference in basketball and football. My success is dependent upon someone else and that's the quarterback there's a lot of things that factor into me getting the ball obviously i have to get open but guess what the line has to block the running backs have to pick up blitzes the quarterback has to make the right reads and he has to throw the ball you know in in the right place and make a good good throw to the receiver so again those numbers i've seen it where he they to throw the ball, you know, in the right place and make a good throw to the receiver. So, again, those numbers, I've seen it where they put all the Revis Island and they put everybody that he's going up against.

And it looked, trust me, not taking anything away from him. But at the end of the day, like I said, they were a missed opportunity during the course of those games. That's why I've never really said anything. Because I know I've scored on Darrell Reese before. If you look at when he was with the Jets, when they played, we played in Dallas.

I ran, I can't remember what the route, but I scored on it. And left side, left side of the end zone. So again, those things don't bother me. It's good for, I guess,

the show. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer. You's a Hall of Famer. I mean, you know. At the end of the day, I can't do anything about the comparisons and what it looks like. Like I said, if you break the film down, all those plays or whatever, like I said,

there were times that I was open. I just didn't get the ball. Was I frustrated? Was I upset? Yeah. But just go back and play another play. I like that, T.O. Another question I want to ask you, Mag. At the end of the day, at the wide receiver position, what would you rank yourself, honestly?

I mean, if there's one that's Jerry, 1A, that's me. If you want to go 1-2, that's Jerry, that's me. And then you got Randy. Again, bro, I played. I respect you. I played the game the right way. You did. And, again, everybody has witnessed Randy know you know randy you know doing his thing i did my thing uh everybody wants to bring up that i was you know like you said earlier

they talk about what i did in the locker room which had which really has no validity to it because i was competitive because i was outspoken because i took up my took up for myself that doesn't make me a bad person that shouldn't make me a bad teammate but when you think back 10 15 20 years ago when you had some of the the white personalities that's how they tried to phrase it and frame it is that oh he's just uh you know just just just malcontent this just disgruntled uh black football player that wants the ball like they try to label us divas, this and that and the other. But when you think about it, I never, I never did anything.

And again, to my point, have you ever heard any football players on any team say, or back up the narrative or the media portrayal all the year that they said that I was a locker room distraction or whatever the case or the media portrayal all the year that they said that I was a locker room distraction or whatever the case or a cancer, as you mentioned. Nope, nobody. Bro, you've never heard it.

But again, stay tuned to this documentary. It's coming 2025. Believe me. I heard it, man. 2025. T.O. got a documentary coming on Amazon Prime. I can't wait to see it. I know everybody else can't wait to tune in.

You're an interesting person, T.O. I am. Very, very interesting. Yeah, I'm a very interesting individual. Yes, you are. And then just go back. You say you view yourself as 1A or 1B. Then you say you got T.O. over here.

What's something that you can tell the up-and-coming wide receiver in the NFL right now, man, about how to prepare your body for a season? Again, there's a reason why, again, the tenure of a life chef or a football player is like three to four years. or the life shelf of a football player is like three to four years. And that's because a lot of guys, they're so fixated and put so much work into getting the bag, and then they're so satisfied with their bag, then there's a drop-off in their preparation. That hunger kind of just, it's kind of pushed to the wayside. You know what I mean?

You got to consistently have that hunger to get better each and every year. And it's the same way in basketball. When you look at some of these guys that have so many expectations, so much potential, either from your peers, the organization, the expectations are so high. For me, I didn't have that, but I still thought I had the ability to be one of the best in the league. So I was a realist in a sense to where I said to myself, look, I'm not as good as I know that I should be or I can be.

But if I keep continuing to work and put myself in a position to do so, things are paying out for me. And that's essentially what happened. I always talk about how I describe my career and I describe how I got to be a Hall of Famer. And it's three words, desire, dedication, and discipline. Everybody has a desire to be or do something in life. But we all have mentors. We all have barometers or people that we use as barometers of success

in whatever profession that may be, whether it's swimming, basketball, tennis, football, whatever it is, we all have people that have played this game before us that they have set the standard and like, oh man, I want to be like that person. I saw that person in Jerry Rice. I didn't really know who Jerry Rice was

until like my junior year in college because I didn't follow football like that. I didn't really know who Jerry Rice was until like my junior year in college because I didn't follow football like that. I knew who Michael Jordan, I knew who the Pistons and all these guys were before I knew any really professional football player. But being drafted to the Niners in the third round, 89th pick, I saw what greatness was. I saw what I should be. I wasn't there in my first three or

four years, but I continued to work and I had the right people around me to push me. In addition to your preparation as far as how you train, whether it's weights, whatever the case may be, nutrition became a big part of my life and my lifestyle, especially football. Those things kind of go hand in hand. Typically, like I said, in high school, you start out, you're lifting weights. College, at the college level, you're doing the same things. But once I started to really take care of my body and really nutritionally put myself in a place, I'm like, OK, well, you know, after my third year, I found a personal trainer and buddy. He basically taught me how to kind of take care of my body from a nutrition standpoint, eating three or four or five meals a day. You know, protein, understanding how your muscles are breaking down when you lift weights, needing the proper rest. Sleep deprivation is really key. It's really high when it comes to a lot of athletes because we feel like we're invisible.

We can go on a little to no energy, no sleep at all. Y'all used to party before games? I mean, during the course of the week, my first three years, I drank a little bit. I'm not a big drinker, but I used to go out on Thursday night, whatever. And then, shoot, Friday was our light day. Everybody, you know, if you drank on Thursday or whatever, come in Friday, light day. Everybody was in the steam room trying to sweat it out or whatever the case may be. But at the same time, when you're getting in that steam room, what you're doing, yeah, you may be sweating it out or whatever the case may be but at the same time when you're getting that steam room

what you're doing yeah you may be sweating it out you may sweat that alcohol out but you're sweating out the fluids that you need on game day so you're dehydrating your body so if you don't recuperate or rehydrate then you say that's a recipe for disaster disaster because that's when people start pulling you know having these soft tissue injuries such as groins, hamstrings, all these type of things that come up during the course of the year. And you wonder like, oh, man, this guy always having hamstring issues. It's either because he's not properly hydrating or he's drinking a lot during the course of the season and not putting in enough fluids to replace the alcohol. So all those things, man, that's what made me who I was, man. Number one, I took into account and I was receptive to the guys or the people

that came into my circuit and wanted me to be better and strive for me to be better. And that's what I did because I knew I didn't know everything. I was, like, again, I didn't think I was going to play beyond the collegiate level. But I listened to everybody that, that, that came my way. God bless me, bro. I ain't gonna tell you, you always think about, you talk about your, your grandmama praying for you, your mama, grant praying for your people

in the church, praying for you, bro. I honestly, bro, I made it because I'm sure, bro, there was a lot of prayers answered, you know, with a lot of people praying for me that I probably didn't know, that I didn't know about. So for me to not really know what I was embarking upon and then obviously to reach the level of success, it wasn't by accident.

Of course, I had to put in the work, which is, like I said, my desire, my dedication. But when you think about discipline that last day, when you think about every sport, there's only a handful of great athletes. When you think about basketball, there's only a handful every year in different eras. It's not a whole lot of great athletes. You probably got like five, maybe five to eight good players, but your top five is considered your great athletes in every sport. For me, in my position, I'm considered, I'm in that top three to five. When you look at basketball, you know you probably got your top five.

America probably has their top five. But what makes them great? The ones that really stand out are your lebrons your kobe's and your mjs what makes them so great and your steph desire number one all of them have a desire dedication they did that discipline is what separates the great from the good and that's why we think about football as it relates to football just think about how many football players it is in America. There's thousands of football,

good football players, but there's only a handful of great ones. And discipline is what really separates it. A lot of kids, a lot of people, they talk about being great. They want the reward of being great, but they don't want to put in that work that's required to be great. They want to cut some corners here and there. The great ones don't want to put in that work that's required to be great.

They want to cut some corners here and there. The great ones don't really... You've heard about them. They don't cut corners. Did you ever have sex before games? Did I? No, because we had curfew. We wasn't like basketball.

We didn't have curfew. We didn't like basketball. Shit, I'm trying to be getting in trouble. We didn't have the freedom to not have curfew before games. I bet they can do it now. Things done changed now, too. They probably getting in there. Even now, football, NFL, there's curfew. There's curfew, which is crazy. So Tom Brady had curfew. We're the onlyew, which is crazy. Tom Brady had curfew. We're the only players, bro. We're the only

players that football, the NFL's the only team, sport that literally has curfew. Trash. Not basketball, not baseball. I'm sure hockey, soccer, none of those have curfew, which is crazy. We're the only sport that has curfew, bro.

Of course, you got people that's going to try to, you know, that's snuck some people in. Yeah, that's what I feel. Man, come on, bro. Where there's a will, there's a way. I mean, trust me. I'm sure some people have done it. You know what I mean?

I may have, too. I just can't remember. CTE, I think. Yeah, y'all, don't play with that. When you pass one of these days They be trying to get your brain But CT is real though He's not making fun of it, y'all

We all know CT is real We all know CT is real So this is part of the show Where we do a Hell No I ask you a couple questions And you tell us Hell No You ready? You ready?

Ask me if I want to do this thing. Nah, I ain't going to ask you that. I know you don't want to say that bullshit, but we're going to get straight to it, though. Hey, man, you see that back there? Hey, that's what I'm saying. Man, we'll see that. We're going to get to that. Look like a silverback with the gray right there. I see you going to say that, too. Hey, I just wanted to see everybody

see that. Hey, I don't listen to T.O. T.O., on the Hell No segment, is Donovan Knob the best quarterback you ever played for? Hell no. Is Steve Marriott the greatest coach you ever played for? Hell no. Is Steve Mariucci the greatest coach you ever played for? Hell, nigga, double, double, double hell no.

Triple hell no. Is Tim Brown of the Oakland Raiders better than T.O.? Bro, hell to the no. He ain't even even brought, how is that even a question, bro? It's T.O. Brown. I get this. I get this. This is your show, but he ain't even, he's not

even brought up in no discussions as being one of the top five receivers. Ain't he top 15? Why is that even a question? I don't look past top three. What? Oh, arrogant. What you said about

Brady? No, that's confidence. And I have the statistics to prove that. So Jerry Rice, you, Randy Mouse, you don't see nobody else. You don't see me? I was a cold receiver too, T.O. I took my meniscus in five

spots. That's the only reason why you argue me number one, number two. One for that, I'd have been ahead of your ass. And I wasn't 6'3 either. You wouldn't be top in a field of blind folks. I'm a cold T.O. right now.

If me and you went out for an NFL trial, I'd get the job over you. Nah, you wouldn't even... Nah, they wouldn't even consider you, first of all. Come on, come on. You probably couldn't even make the roster of a girls football team. Really?

Really. I'm really like that, dog. Don't let the side fool you. I'm really like that. Bub. Don't let the side fool you. I'm really like that. Bubba Dug, you talk good. And it's confidence, baby. Ain't that what you get? It's confidence.

Right, but your confidence, you can't back that up. So just because you get hit a home run in the MLB game the other day, you're feeling yourself again, T.O. I'm pretty sure you're going to tell me right now you can go and play right now in the NFL right now for a team right now, this year, coming up. You. Bro, that's without question.

People like you and... I like it. Right. People like you and Shannon Sharp to get on these shows and you start feeling yourself. Then you want to start down-talking on somebody at a Hall of Fame that can really do it.

Who down-talking? I ain't no of Fame that can really do it. Who down-talking? I ain't no player in the NFL. Right, but I mean. But you said me and Sanger down-talk. I don't down-talk. I speak facts. I'm just saying. You know, he trying to say I can't do this.

I can't do that. You just said the same thing. No, no, no, no, no. Lee got the Sanger. No brain Sanger. No real release. You just said the same thing. You just said the same thing, sir.

You think you can go play right now? I'm talking about with me and you. I'm saying that to say before you can state your case that you can still play. Ask me some legitimate questions, man. So that wasn't legitimate? No, it wasn't.

See? You can say I'm staying by myself. Everybody in your audience know that I can play right now. Know that, John? Everybody. Know that, John? Everybody that watched the Bubba Dub show know.

I know you can probably still play, but they don't know that. Yeah, they know. I know you still in shape. Yeah. I don't like what you get said. I'm trying to downplay you. I know you can still play. Hey, man, that's what that question implied. I know what you you. I know you can still play. Hey man, that's what that question implies.

I know what you mean. I know what you meant, but when you look at the people watching this, on the other side, the audience, they know what you're getting at. Don't be trying to... I'm getting at you letting the 32 NFL teams know that when they perceive us getting hurt,

bring your ass in so you can help them. That's all I'm saying. Look, man, I ain't hard to find, bro. I ain't hard to find. We know that. I can see you behind the picture. Look, hey. How was that playing in the

MLB game, hitting the home run? What was that feeling like, bro? You see what I did to that softball. I was this close from hitting it over the real fence. This close. Who was MVP?

Oh, Bobby Jones. Bobby Jones. He's a podcaster or whatever. He's just like you. He's better than you, though. I never heard of him. Never heard of him. I'm just messing with you. No, but no, no. Okay. I never heard of him. Never heard of him. I'm just messing with you.

No, but no, no. He played well. He played well. He had a ball that came right at him. He caught it. Very deserving of the MVP. And he was on our team,

National League. We won that thing. 12-10. I slapped myself. I tried to knock the cup off the ball. You saw it. Yeah, I see. I mean, you're an athlete. I just myself. I tried to knock the cub off the ball. You saw it. Yeah, I see. I mean,

you're an athlete. I just can't sit up and say you're a football player. You can ball too. And I see you out here doing the... You're an athlete too. I'm going to be in it. Honestly, I was just talking to my friend about it. Bro, I'm probably one of the most talented athletes in this country, bro. In this country, in this world. I'm probably one of the most talented athletes in this country, bro. In this country, in this world.

I'm probably one of the most talented. Can you golf? I can do a little bit of everything except for golf. I can't play no golf. But anything else, I'm very competitive. I'm going to put it on the show with you. I'm telling you.

From pickleball, bowling, softball, obviously, softball. Obviously, I play basketball, football. You're going to be on Madden in 2K and all that, though, right? Those are video games. I'm just asking a question. That's not an actual skill set. Oh, yeah, it is.

It's skills. There's big money in that. That's skills playing that man. That's technology. There can be some glitches. All that, you know what I mean? With that video. Gaming is obviously a billion-dollar industry.

For sure. Yeah. But, yeah, man, I ain't played no video games like that since I left college, to be quite honest. That's when we had Coach K. We had Contra. Tecmo Bowl. Those are like some of the, you know, when the graphics and the technology wasn't as great as it is now, where, you know, you really have like the 3D, you know, movement.

We ain't going to say no name, but any players you ever played with and you was like, I see why you're going to play. Like they were if they were not like it's any player you ever seen like i see why this motherfucker ain't gonna never be in the game or just gonna be on the practice squad because of their effort you ever see that i mean there's a there's a lot that factors into it i said unbeknownst to a lot of people that's on the outside watching the game because you have every day you have coaches that evaluate these players on an everyday basis it could be attitude bro it could be they their work habits it could be they don't know the plays there's always a reason why you probably see guys and you're like man why isn't he playing and obviously they're not privy to the information

of what the coaches and organizations see from that player on an everyday basis. But me being in the locker room, there's obviously a reason why that particular player, whomever that player may be, why he isn't playing. Trust me, it's just not because of talent. Again, like I said, when you come down to football and games, bro, it all boils down to wins and losses. You may have a guy that's talented but then like i said throughout the course of the week or if you've put them in games they'd be missing assignments

you know they run the wrong route which is causing a busted play you may not know watching the game you're like oh why this play didn't work or he was wide open or you see a receiver run a run a route and the quarterback throw it throw it a different Again, it could be a number of things. Sometimes it's not always sometimes the receiver's fault, but because we're so conditioned that the quarterback is always right, if that ball is being thrown to a different spot and the receiver runs this route or whatever it may be, they're going to say, oh, well, the receiver ran the wrong route because ideally the quarterback is supposed

to be the smartest person on the field. So not saying that, you know, not all the time that the receiver is wrong. Sometimes the QBs are wrong as well. But it's just what I'm just really trying to explain. I know what you're saying. There's misassignments. Like you say, from the outside, we see something, and we don't know that there was a misassignment,

there was a wrong route. It could be a number of anything, bro. The receiver or whomever is going to get blamed for that route. And it probably don't go with the question, but it just shows you, like I said, we don't, the audience or people don't know everything that's going on as it relates to a particular player as to why that person is or isn't playing. It's not sometimes, it's not just ability. I got you.

How you all switching gears? How you feel about this president debate this year, man, between Biden and Trump? How you feel, man? Do you feel like we got, I just feel as a black American, uh, Trump is, uh, he's a con man in so many ways and he's very manipulative and he's using the weak minded, you know, black people to, to, to really, you know, gain his vote. He's not for black America.

Overall, I would say that. But he knows he needs us to win. So he's going to do and say whatever he needs to for the people that are not listening, the weak-minded black people, to get that vote. But he's not for us.

I respect that. Give me your top five movies. Oh, my number one movie is The Notebook. And I know people are like, oh, my gosh, you're lying. And it's not. I know The Notebook is a romantic type of film, but there is some substance to that movie that's dear to my heart, and it touches on something in which my grandmama passed from, and that's Alzheimer's. So it's not just a romantic storyline of it.

on Alzheimer's whom I've been an advocate for and been on many boards with a number of teams that I played for. I'm very involved with the Alzheimer's Association. So that's why it's one of my top, one of my top films. And honestly, like anything that Denzel in, shit, it could be two through five to be quite honest, because that dude there he he can act you know especially the equalizers uh the deja vu i mean anything anything that he plays in bro uh book of eli bro i can watch his movies over and over and over again bro what's the difference in Denzel Washington and Samuel L. Jackson for you? The range? We got more range. The range in which they can act like, bro, like, man, Denzel can do anything.

He can play you. He can play Bubba Dug. I mean, he can play an old man. He can do anything. He can play, have you seen it? Military. I mean, he can play a drunk. I mean, he can get into character and play anybody to the T.

You think he could have played Samuel and Django better than what Samuel did? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about that one, T.O. Samuel played that one to the T.O. I mean, like, I don't think Samuel could have played Alonzo and Trang today. Like, not better than Denzel. Hey, man, you better go watch Denzel.

No, Denzel's that guy. I love him. But Samuel's that guy, too. Well, I never said he wasn't that guy. You just said of the two. Yeah, I know. I'm going to go with Denzel. I'm just talking about roles. role so i'm saying for me

denzel could have played gator and jungle jungle fever hey and again maybe that wasn't the role for denzel but you're asking me do i think he could have played it yeah absolutely if that wasn't samuel jackson and and and and he had to uh audition for that role or whatever, Denzel could have done that. But was that the role for him at that particular time? Who knows? Did he audition for that role? I don't know.

But you can't go wrong. Both of those guys are hell. You can't go wrong. They hellified actors. Hellified. You can't go wrong on neither one of them. For sure. Your top five rappers. Be honest, yo.

Biggie, Tupac, Ice Cube. I like 2 Chainz. Okay, you got one more. 2 Chainz? Yeah, nigga. 2 Chainz, nigga. Hey, niggas. You already know what it is. You already. All right, who else? You got one more. 2 Chainz. Yeah, nigga, 2 Chainz, nigga, for the A. Niggas, you already know what it is. You already.

All right, who else? You got one more. Man, I don't care what you say. No, I rock with T.D. Boy. I rock with 2 Chainz, fam. Kendrick Lamar is hard, too. Kendrick Lamar. And then, like I said, that's a lot.

Bro, that's a number. No, we know that. I just want your top five. That's all. All those guys, man. No. We know that, but I just want your top five. They call out all those guys, man. No Drake. My top five, I just named. Like I said, that's

me. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. I just named. I didn't know I was going to get asked that question, so off the dome, those are mine. Hey, this show lined up, man. Can't nobody get mad about who you picked and who you want to rock with. You said Tupac, so I'm good now.

Oh, yeah. You ever listen to Tupac before games? A biggie before games? I listened to Tupac during my pro days, before my workouts. Dear mama. Yeah, that's special. I can notice you keep saying them two women your mom and your grandmother i can tell they were real influential oh man life you know shit i mean that i i i was i was put in a position and i saw the opportunity that i had not knowing that i was going to have those opportunities so for me like you don't get these opportunities they don't come by every day so the fact that

I was put in that position and I had an opportunity to make it to the league even though like I said I didn't I didn't I didn't quit basketball so I could totally focus on it because I wasn't 100% all in with football but I took advantage of the opportunities that was given to me, even with the senior bowl. My coach at the time, Buddy Green, the last year coach that I had in Chattanooga, it was called the Dale Shamps Super Bowl. I think that was like a grocery store or something called Dale Shamps. So that was a sponsor of the Senior Bowl. My coach at that time, I had three coaches in four years in Chattanooga.

Buddy Nix, Tommy West, and Buddy Green. Buddy Green came over from NC State. Tommy West came over from Clemson. And then Buddy Nix was our first-year coach. So Buddy Green, my last-year coach, my third and fourth year, he knew, I guess, the representative or the whatever for Dale Shamps. And he got me an invite to the Senior Bowl. And that's where practicing and playing in front of the scout mainly practice

in front of the gms and scouts during that course of the week that's where i pretty much got on the radar and my stock rose um in the eyes of uh some of the gms and the scouts that week so uh and again i saw guys that played at power five schools like your uh Eddie Kennisons and your Amani Tumors, your Derek Mays, like all these guys. And I saw them up close and I'm like, seeing them play on TV

in front of like 100,000, like Michigans and your Penn States, your Bobby Engel and stuff like, I literally, I thought they were just, I thought they were head and shoulders above my skill set and my talent. And then I saw them in person. I'm like, man, they're not that much better than me.

So that gave me motivation. And that inspired me because I'm like, I literally thought like, my routes were like, I would say it was trash compared to where I ended up. But when I saw them, I thought their route running was on another level than mine. And then when I saw them, I'm like, man, they're not that much better than me. So again, I didn't do anything different. I just continued with how I approached practice, my work habits, caught the ball, ran, caught, got upfield. And that's what caught the eyes of the scouts. That was something I was doing naturally.

And then when I got to the San Francisco 49ers, Jerry Rice did that 10 times more and better than I did. He was catching the ball like five, 10-yard routes, curl routes, out routes. He was catching that ball and then taking it to the end zone. That's why he was probably the best condition, and that's why he was able to really take over games when other guys were tired because of the way he practiced people didn't know that but that's how i was i was strong uh at the end of the games just as i was at the beginning of the game but it was because of my work habits

my work ethic it was how i approached practice and my games, it seems a lot easier than they were a lot easier than it was because my practice happens. That's how, like what you just said, when you said when you see them in person, you feel like, well, they ain't that much better than me. And that's how I feel when I go watch other big time comedians perform. I go and evaluate and I evaluate where they are and where I'm at. And I'm like, it's all about, it's all about your material. And when it comes to that delivery, if you got stage presence,

you got a mouthpiece and what you have, all you got to just put, put, put your, put your assignment, put some material together and make the people laugh. It don't matter how, how you make them laugh.

As long as you making them laugh, you winning. You winning. It's just like, it's just like you dating a girl you might not have no game but if you got a mouthpiece on you you can be ugly like you're not a cute individual but I guarantee you probably got a lot of chicks though dog

because you make them laugh women all they want you to do is make them laugh dog if you can talk hold a conversation and you can make them laugh. Women, all they want you to do is make them laugh, dog. If you can talk, hold a conversation, and you can make them laugh, boy, you can make them laugh. You can talk them right out of those panties. Look, I know one thing. We was in a room. They going to see me before they see you.

No, I don't know how you going to do that. You the color of cremation. I ain't. I feel like skin around you. That's why you wearing that yellow shirt. Hey, boy, you see these bright, curly whites? That's why you're wearing that yellow shirt. Hey, boy, you see these bright curly whites? That's why you're wearing that yellow shirt. Hey, I'm coming in like this.

Hey, I'm coming in like this, dog. You see? Look at that smile. That smile ain't going to get it done. Hey, who your celebrity crush? Hey, boy, look at this. Man, who your celebrity crush? Shit, man, I'm mad, man.

She got married, got a kid and everything. I don't even have no crush no more, bro. It's too late. What's the point of me having a celebrity crush and they already taken? Damn. Have you ever had one besides her that ain't taken?

Man, you know what? You know who keep bouncing around from guy to guy? She ain't really found no home yet. She just got back with the dude, and now she's not with the dude again. It's damn J-Lo. Okay. Something might be wrong with J-Lo. I like Paula Patton.

She's cool. I met her in person. She's super cool. Bro, like, J-Lo, bro, she keep going with these entertainers, these actor people in profession. I've never known her to date an athlete. Well, you should shoot your shot. You think so?

Pearly whites? You should shoot your shot. Everybody else been failing. Maybe somebody can win. There's another chick that's hot, that's bad. Is it Ashley? Ashley Nicole Moss? Yeah.

But she cute. Yeah, I was on her line for a minute, but I don't know if I was her type. We were messaging back and forth. She cool. I like her. She's nice. But again, I don't know if she's my type, though.

You ever go on a date where you let the woman pay? If they insist on it, but I mean, I always go into it, you know, you know, damn, I'm going to pay for the meal. But some women insist on like, oh, because they know, like they just figure we're always paying for it. And they just want to, you know, want to put themselves in a position like, oh, I can pay for this, blah, blah, blah. I'm not opposed to it, but I don't go into it thinking that they're going to pay for it. What's the most expensive meal you can pay for on a date? Probably about $400, something, about $400.

Okay. Depending on the restaurant, you know what I mean? Some of the steak restaurants, by the time you order steak, they buy like $400. Okay. Depending on the restaurant. You know what I mean? Some of the steak restaurants, by the time you order steak, they buy like 65. Then you order drinks. They buy drinks. Damn near 25 bucks. Then you got dessert. You know what I mean?

You drink a couple of drinks, three drinks or two drinks each. You got 100 bucks. Then if you order like Seabad, I'm a seafood eater. Every now and then I'll do steak or what have you. You tack on the gratuity and all that, bro,

you $300, $400, you flirt with $500. Okay, so if you spend the $300, $400, $500, do you expect to get some that night? Nah, I just go with the flow. I do, you some that night? No, I just go with the flow. See, I do. You see. You betting me? I just go with the flow.

If it flows that way, there's really no expectation. See, ain't no blow. See, it's an expectation. See. Again, it depends on the individual. Like, it depends on what you're going on a date for. You know what i'm going on it for i ain't going just to eat i'm going to get a treat hey it depends on what you're going on a

date for you if you're going on a date to to to eat and then dessert later or yeah right so you can have your dessert at the table or your dessert i might i might just have it on the way home So you're going to have your dessert at the table or your dessert? I might. I might just have it on the way home. Shit, on the ride home. So, again, if that's how you feel and that's what your approach is, then, hey, if those are your expectations, but I try not to put no expectations on your thing because, you know,

when you align your expectations with reality, well, you're going to be disappointed. Because reality, you might not get no. So you're going to be disappointed. Because reality, you might not get no, so you're going to be disappointed. Because if you set your expectations too high, bro, but this is the deal. I've had no expectations

and I probably have gotten some more so because of that approach than me going into it like, oh, okay, after we go on a dinner, I'm about to smash. Hey, you ever took a honey pack, fam?

A who? Honey pack. Yeah, those things, yeah. Yeah, I've had a honey pack. Man, I done put those things in my team, just sitting on that seat like it was real honey. I done put it in the team to replace the honey. And it worked.

Does it? And it work. Does it? And it work. But does it? I got six months supply right now. Do it. Hey, I'm going to shoot you my address home, boy. Hey, this show sponsored by Honey Pack. Roy, what you got?

It's still a beat. It's still a beat. You never sponsored your show. It's still a beat. Yeah. Send me some, though. Don't BS. You BS now. You ain't your show. It's gonna be. Yeah. Send me some, though. Don't BS. You BS now.

You ain't got no. No, I got you. Real talk. I'm the king around here. You ain't got no spot like that. When they go to these stores and they find them empty, they call me. They know I got no women, though. I gots for having them.

Look, I'm saying, I got, you know, I done built up in my system now. I got to have it. I can't sleep with my girl without it because she going to know. Oh, man, you the partner. She going to know I'm regular. But when I'm with the 100 pack, I'm supreme. She know the difference. Hey, man, you going to become immune. You ain't

going to be working after a while, boy. You ain't going to be going to get a penile implant. You ain't going to... Don't do that too much, boy. You ain't going to be working after a while. Hey, man,

it make me feel like Superman to you. Like how you say you've been on the field and like the hook, that's how it make me feel. That's the only time I feel like I'm an athlete when I'm in the hook. I'm A1. I'm A1.

I'm looking at this monitor, bro. Nigga, I'm here for you. Stop. Dog, you see this? Shoot your shot at J-Lo right now. Shoot your shot at J-Lo right now. Shoot your shot at J-Lo right now. Terrell Owens, shoot your shot at J-Lo. Hold on.

But you see, hey, this is my skin. Hey, I'm just being digging. Hold on, man. Let me get my own promo going on. You see my me skin care. That's my skin care coming live. Yeah, we see it, T.O. Hey, you see that skin?

Nope. Hey, that's why I look so good, bud. I look younger than you, bud. Never. Hey, I look younger than you, boy. Never. Hey, I look younger than you, dog. I look younger and I look better than you, boy. Never. Yeah.

You might got the NFL going for you, but you ain't got nothing else. You might be a Hall of Fame on the field, but everywhere else, I'm the GOAT. Do you know how crazy you sound? I'm the GOAT. Do you know how crazy you sound? I'm the GOAT. So why I'm on this show

if I ain't got nothing else going for me? I didn't say you didn't have nothing going. I said you might be an NFL Hall of Famer. But when it comes to everything else, over here with me. You said I ain't got nothing else going for me. No, no, no. I ain't talking about... You know what I'm talking about. Shut up, T, T.O., and stop all that, man.

Hey, man, J-Lo and T.O. There you go. Shoot your shot right now. J-Lo and T.O. J-Lo, T.O. said what's up. He's single. You single. J-Lo and T.O., let's go.

I don't think you can handle him. Huh? I don't think you can handle J-Lo, man. She might be too much for you, T.O. It can't be too much for you, T-O. It can't be too much for her. What you talking about? You going behind P. Diddy?

You going behind P. Diddy? Ben Affleck? Wesley Snipes? Now, he blacking them both of us. No, that man ain't got nothing on T though Ain't got nothing on me She ain't had no T.O. though She ain't had She ain't had T.O. though

What, she want to get married? What's that? Yeah, if she want to get married I'm open to that Bro, look I don't know what's going on Why her relationships aren't working Yeah, she's with A-Rod too Again gotta I don't know what's going on why her relationships aren't working

yeah she's with A-Rod too I don't know again I don't know what I don't know what the deal is A-Rod with Juice maybe if I

maybe if we talk and we get a chance to connect maybe I can ask her you know kind of like what the deal is and then all you gotta do is kind of just

figure out what these dudes were doing wrong and then you rectify those situations. But I'm going to be myself. Maybe she just hadn't had anybody. She's got to just truly be themselves. But something is not right in those relationships.

She keeps bouncing around. It could be her. It could be her. I know. That's what I'm saying. It could be her. Huh? It could be her. I know. That's what I'm saying. It could be her. You know,

it's like Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian, she should have been with... Would you date? Who? Kim. Would I date Kim? Yeah.

You know what? I probably would consider that. You know what I mean? I probably would consider it. She don't want you late nights and like pop up. Would you pop up? I never thought of it. I never thought

about it though. Wow, for real? Again, I don't even know. Like I said, with the guys that she dated, there's a reason why she's still single. Something is not connecting. There's something that either she's looking for that these guys

are not providing and using their honey pack that's what this is whatever okay she's maybe she's looking for happiness in all the wrong places maybe she's looking for nub in all the wrong places uh but again she's had a number of guys too because you got to figure at some point like i said it could be her it can't be all these guys because she's again like last i last i heard she was linked with obj i don't know what's going on with that so he no no he he left her they broke up i didn't i mean she did it in what they even together for to be broken up all i heard they were rumored to be together now he he was with him he was with her for a couple months. He was with her. That's for sure. That's for sure, man.

But they go on, though. Like, from the world I'm from, we look up to them celebrities, man, and we like, man, I want her. But man, she been passed around, though, dog. You know what I'm saying? Man, but if you think about every girl that you probably date or you've, I guess,

encountered, and if you actually get into a relationship, they've all been with somebody. They may not have been in the public eye, but they probably have had a track record of a number of regular guys as it is with guys that are in the limelight. Everybody. Does that bother you? Does that bother you?

Does that bother you? Everybody has had somebody. So they wouldn't stop you from... Bro, everybody has had somebody. Trust me. We've all been recycled at some point. We've all been recycled. And again, the idea that a number of these athletes at some point. We've all been recycled.

And again, the idea that a number of these athletes, again, are dating and having kids by the same women, that baffles me. Because I'm like, yo, there are so many other beautiful women out there. Why are they dating and having babies? not only just dating, but having babies with the same girl? For example, who got a number of kids by different athletes?

I think the chick Bow Wow's baby mama, she done dated a couple of- Joey Chavez. Yeah, she got like two or three baby daddies in the league. She got Future, Bow Wow, and oh boy, Texas, his brother. Right. Diggs. Right.

I mean, that's just one of many. But I'm like, bro, like, why are they after the same chick? You know why? She got that Snapple. She got that Snapple, T.O. That's why. They must be on that honey pack, too. Hey, they must be on that honey pack, too. Hey,

they must be on that honey pack, too. Fidel, I don't blame them. Hey, something is not right, bro. Something is not right. Yeah, something's right. Something's right with her. Something's right with her, though. So with so much going on in the world right now,

who would you give trash of the day to? No matter what it is, what would you give trash of the day to today? Shit, Donald Trump. Nigga, that nigga is trash, straight trash. Bro, honestly, man, being an adult, bro, and I've never really been into politics, but as I've gotten older, it's hard to ignore and it's hard not to recognize really how politics is so corrupt. If the world gets in the wrong hands, this could be a sad place to live, bro. For some people, it is. I know, that's what I'm saying. But even as people that are well

off or well-to-do, it still could be a sad place to live. And I'm being mindful of those that are not even in the position that we're in. So if you just think about how they may feel. Honestly, bro, if the world gets put in the wrong hands, basically, again, he's using us to get his vote. He does not really

care about us, bro. Because he knows, like I said, we make up a large part of America, bro. He needs us.'s somehow he's manipulated uh a number of us black people to to follow him and endorse him like look at amber rose like bro this is this is wild to me like the fact that again like some of his policies and just things that are going to affect women. Like how is she even, how can she even get down with some of the things that are going to directly affect black women

in a negative way? Outside of everything else. And I don't really get into all the political things or what have you, but just some of the main things such as that, like healthcare and all this stuff, bro, it's unbelievable, bro. So if you ever was president,

what would you push or what would you try if you was president? I mean, I'm trying to find a way to just have some equality across the board with everything, bro. Like, we want to establish ourselves as one of the strongest countries in America. Like, I don't know if we can really say

that we are at this point. I think it's time. Again, so again, that's what you want to do. You want to be able to reestablish, like, people should fear America. They don't really fear us anymore. And then there's so much divide with white and black, bro.

It's unreal. And being a, growing up as a black American, bro, it's like, you know that racism exists, but at the end of the day, bro, it's like we all live in this world together. Like, we should be able to live harmoniously. You know what I mean? Sometimes when you beat the white people, bro,

it'd be our own color. I mean, yeah, we're our own worst enemy in certain situations, for sure. We're quick. Just think about from a standpoint of just business.

We're quick to support a white business and make that company to make millions and billions of dollars but somebody black can do something the same, if not of equal value or quality, and they won't even support it. Just look at some of the name brands that are out there.

Again, I could do it, you could do it, you could put out something just as nice or whatever, but because it doesn't possess the name of a designer or what have you, we're not going to support it. But as soon as somebody white put their name on something, oh, that goes spending hundreds and hundreds and thousands of dollars on it.

But if we put the same product or equal value or quality product out there, they're not going to support it because it doesn't have the name, it doesn't have the same cachet. Why? I mean, I've, I've lately broke probably in the last 10, 10 years. So I've been more so now, if I see a black business,

I go purchase something just to support. They might even know it, you know what I mean? But I'll do that because I know we need to support us in order to really get to another level. But we all don't think like that. Again, if it doesn't have a certain look or if it doesn't have a certain name or if it doesn't have a certain price, which is crazy. Like some of these products, to produce it, it costs like less than $100. products, to produce it, it costs less than $100.

But then the retail is like $2,000. Do you know how much price increase that is? How much profit that is? It costs $50, $75, $100

a month. And they put on a price of $2,500, $3,000. We're going to buy it. I can go do the same thing, put a product out there. Like, I got a candle line. My candles are like $63, bro. What's your candle line? Loft 81 Home.

Y'all heard? Loft 81 Home. Go get it. Go get it. Go get it. My candles are quality. It's made up with all the right ingredients. 63 bucks.

But they go to Barnes and Nobles, or not Barnes and Nobles, Barney's, or Macy's, or Neiman Marcus. They're going to pay $100 for those candles. But they'll look for a discount like, man, your candles are too much. We're just as comparable. Our prices are just as comparable to things that are less than on the market. And they smell good.

And they nice. I could have used some when we had that storm down here in nighttime. We didn't have no power. You sure? I'll get you some, man. Y'all let me know, man.

I'm going to buy some, man. I'm going to buy some. We're going to support, man. Launch81home. me know, man. Nah, I'm going to buy some, man. I'm going to buy some. We're going to support, man. Launch81home.com. And then, like I said, if you want to look good like me on your next few shows, hey, I got that skincare line coming out, boy. Me skincare, you see it? Got that, hey, that exfoliate, that face scrub, and then that serum, that oil.

Bro. Yo. Boy, hey, they going to be like, damn, Wapadum, what you doing? They going to say I'm bleaching my skin, man. Nah. Nah, nah, nah. I'm going to use it, bro. Boy, hey, they can be like, damn, what you doing? They gonna say I'm bleaching my skin, man. I'm gonna use it, though. Stop, stop. And no, no, trust me, it ain't gonna be none of that. And the reason I got into it, the reason I got into it, because when I grew up,

being outside, exposed to the sun, I didn't really know nothing. But, you know, we weren't trying to take care of our skin. We know about moisturizing our skin. We didn't really take too much time to understand what sunscreen was for. We just thought sunscreen was for white people. You know what I mean? I dig.

I ain't going to lie. Facts. That shit was that. We could benefit from sunscreen. Okay. For sure. And I was going out there swimming, exposing myself to the sun, skiing dry, cracked up, all that.

And had no sunscreen. But now, like I said, this skincare line is for obviously men of color trying to educate, you know, young kids and boys, going into men, like I said, understanding hygiene and moisturizing their skin, all that stuff. We're going to get it.

We're going to support. We're going to get the calendars. We're going to get the skincare. All my people that's watching right now, man, We're going to get it. We're going to support. We're going to get the calendars. We're going to get the skin care. All my people that's watching right now, man, we're going to load our carts up. Hey, man, we're going to break bread with you. Oh, yeah. I got a nice little summer set for you, too,

a mesh outfit. When are your next few shows? Two weeks, I'm going to be in the Bay Area. I'm going to be out there in Pleasanton, California at Tommy T's. That'd be perfect for me. What size you wear? I'm medium. I'm going to get you a couple

of my outfits, man. I'm going to rock you. And I'm going to rock you on the show. Oh, yeah. It's a mesh outfit. Nice little top. Yeah, a little shirt. Mashing. Oh, trust me. You're going to like that, Bubba Duff. I'm going's a mesh outfit. A nice little top. Yeah, a little shirt. Mashing. Oh, trust me. You're going to like that, Bubba Dug.

So I'm going to get the outfit. I'm going to get the skincare. And I'm going to get the cap. Man, you're going to be sick. Boy, you're going to be sick. Why? Before I let you get up out of here, T.O., going back to the NFL, let's piggyback, man.

What would you consider your best year? What year would you consider your best year that you had probably when i was in philly i told you i had i played in before i got suspended they didn't bring me back i played a year and seven games in um in uh philadelphia i played in 21 games bro i had 20 touchdowns so bro i literally i was going like I was scoring, like, touchdown a game, bro. Like, that's how elite I was, and that's the level that I was on, bro. Like, when I stepped on the field, it didn't matter. Like, Champ Bailey was supposed to be one of the top corners around that time. Bobby Taylor.

Bro, none of them, they couldn't see me, bro. Trust me. All of them. None of them, they couldn't see me, bro. Trust me. They could not see me. And this coming from... This coming from... This coming from a third-round draft pick.

Third-round eight-night pick. I feel shit. From Chattanooga out of Alexander City, Alabama that was barely even recruited. Wasn't a four or five star coming out of high school and bro, nigga, I was

like that. Like that. And I think, I mean, that's why you're in the Hall of Fame now, because you was like that. You know, we're going to give what they said about you. That's bullshit. That's propaganda bullshit. That shit didn't work. You still a Hall of Famer.

Should have been a first-round ballot Hall of Famer. That's bullshit. And that needs to be addressed in the NFL. From the people, whoever that's able to vote, it's bullshit. Because they like

other people be having influence on other people. I'm just being honest. Well, I know you have a problem with him, so I ain't going to vote him in this time. That's bullshit. If a man's numbers is his numbers, he should be in the first round of the Hall of Fame. No doubt. But that's why I did what I did.

Because at the end of the day, man, like I was telling you when we first started this, when you were talking about, when I was talking about my grandmother, like, allowing people to disrespect you, they will disrespect you. They will do whatever you allow them to do. And so I wasn't going to continue to allow those people at the Hall of Fame, Pro Football Hall of Fame, to really disrespect what I did for the game. Like I said, regardless, I wasn't a top-round pick or anything like that. But you cannot deny what I did every Sunday. third, fourth, all time. And the criteria is based on what you did on the field. And you're going by hearsay, or we already discussed it, alluded to it early in the show.

When you start talking about what somebody said I didn't fit anything that I was doing on the football field, then you're going outside of the scope of really what the Hall of Fame is truly about. And that's your skill set. What did that individual do in between the lines? What did that individual do in between the lines? And when you start bringing up character, then truly do some research and heard back or the narrative that I was that type of athlete or that type of person in the locker room? Nobody has said that. It's all based on media personnel who, I guess, have anonymous sources. But at the end of the day, you're not going to be 100% liked by everybody. Everybody's going to like you.

Right. So those few people shouldn't speak for the majority of the locker room. So that shouldn't have any bearing or any factor into how you may vote or feel about me

as a football player because that has no relevancy. None whatsoever. So again again when i was nominated in 2016 i didn't make it and then 2017 came in came about and everybody was for sure that i was gonna make and i didn't make it then i was off the hall of fame then they can't do nothing for bro that's a wrap my kid the only way i go to the Hall of Fame then. They can't do nothing for me, bro. That's a wrap. My kid, the only way I go to the Hall of Fame, other than, like I said, I went three years ago when my teammate Brian Young went in, and he personally asked me,

and he said it would mean a lot to him if I came. That's the only time I've been back to the Hall of Fame, was that I was there to support him. Outside of that, they will never see me there on my own accord unless one of my kids or my kids want to go there. Other than that, they disrespected me and they disrespected my family. And on top of that, who raised me, they disrespected her. So on the strength of that, they can't do nothing for me. Nothing. I respect it, brother can't do nothing for me. Nothing.

I respect it, brother. I really do, man. We appreciate you for stopping by the Bubba Dub show, man, over on the volume, man, for sharing knowledge with us, talking shit, laughing. We appreciate you, T.O., the man, the legend, the Hall of Famer, arguably number one, number two.

However you want to put him in there, you can't put him past four. I tell you that right now. Top. Thank you so much for stopping by, man. You've been a good friend to me as well. You know, we love each other. We're going to talk shit. That's what we do. We got more other things that come in besides the 100 packs.

Hey, man, you think I'm lying, man. Don't, you know, I'm going to come I'm serious, man. I'm serious. I'm serious, man. I'm saying. Bro, don't come sending me no two and three little honey packs either. Bruv, if you don't send me no package, bro, I'm going to call you out. You ain't humping like that, dog. You ain't doing like your young days, bro.

Don't worry. I can send you about 20 of them. Then you ought to be good. So you worried about the wrong thing, bubba, dog? I'm just saying. I can send you about 20 of them. Then you ought to be good. So you worried about the wrong thing, Bubba Dug. I'm just saying. I need them. But you said you got a bunch of them. You said you have a stash. That's what you said.

I'll be in the hospital tomorrow. I'm running. Hey, man. I took one and did nothing to help. Who, you? I took one. Oh, I ain't got no baby sugar. I ever took one and did nothing to help. Who you? I took one. Oh, I ain't got no baby sugar. I'm hot. Oh, yeah.

See, that's what I'm saying. See, that's what I'm saying. You went to dinner. You went to dinner. Thank you about to get some. And ain't that happening. See? I ain't got no baby sugar.

I ain't got no baby sugar. I ain't got no baby sugar. I ain't got no baby sugar. I ain't got no baby sugar. I ain't got no baby sugar. I ain't got no baby sugar. It's a good hundred pack on nothing. Oh, man, that's got to be the worst, boy. It was.

That's got to be the worst, boy. You put 15 of them five sisters to work, boy, that night. Go and die. Do it all. Oh, man. Oh, man, that's messed up, man. But nevertheless, man, thank you, T.O., for stopping by the show, man. You're welcome any time, my guy. We're going to support your calendar line.

We're going to support your skin care. We're going to support your clothing line, too, man. Everybody, thank T.O. for stopping by. I appreciate you, bro. One. Yes, sir. Bubba Dove Show. The Volume.