Club Shay Shay - The Bubba Dub Show - Bubba Dub Trashh Talks with Antonio Tarver

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

Bubba Dub is sitting down with the LEGEND Antonio Tarver for his latest interview!! Dub and Tarver talk about everything BOXING fam!! Antonio Tarver takes us behind the scenes of growing up in south Florida, becoming a boxing legend and MUCH much more!! Tarver tells Dub that there are a TON of young fighters coming up in the game that can use his help like Gervonta Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson. After, Dub and Tarver debate who would win a prizefight between the two, before Tarver gives us a LEGENDARY Mt. Rushmore of professional boxers. Finally, Tarver tells a story about meeting the GOAT Muhammad Ali!!#volume #clubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What it do everybody, it's your boy Bubba Dub. Welcome to the Bubba Dub Show. I know I've been promising y'all. I'm telling y'all I was bringing the legend to the show. Well, here he is today, ladies and gentlemen. Antonio Tarve, everybody. Give it up for Tarve, everybody, man. What's good, fam?

How you doing? Man, I'm doing good. Thanks for having me, Bubba. I appreciate it. Nah, I appreciate you, man. I just want to... Hey, hey, let's just dive straight into it, Tarve. Let's dive straight into it for Milando, Florida.

31 wins, 22 big knockouts, six losses. Let's take us back for a minute. Before we get into everything that was gravy, let's take a back, take us back where it all started at, Tarvin. Let's take us back. Man, it's like Southwest Boys and Girls Club, Orlando, Florida, man. Coming from Ivyland, I used to walk to the boys and girls club and uh what i can remember man is like uh just the first time i ever really had that structure

you feel me i was uh part of a team you know had my little fellas with me my you know my my boxing team we had various numbers of ages and we all came from various communities and we all kind of you know migrated right there to the southwest boys and girls club man and uh i'll never forget just looking back how talented those guys were that i learned from you know what i mean we was blessed to have a great trainer jimmy williams he was an older gentleman but really came from New York, from Leesburg, you know, and just had a vast experience, bro. And just really taught us that old school game. And we learned that at a young age. And I think, you know, when I look back at it, a lot of those guys could have been world champions, man, from a talent standpoint.

could have been world champions, man, from a talent standpoint. But, you know, in life, Bubba, you know, man, sometimes you got to win at life in order to get that shot, man. And a lot of guys didn't get that opportunity because, you know, for whatever reason, one bad choice or another led to, you know, either, you know, being, you know, exed out or imprisoned for a long time. You know, they either took the role of crime or either, you know, being, you know, X'd out or imprisonment for a long time. You know, they either took the road of crime or either, you know, incarceration. Some guys got it together.

You know what I mean? Some guys didn't, but, you know, I was one of those guys, you know, you're talking about, you know, flower raising up through the concrete, bro. You know what I mean? I'm one of those guys, man, and that, you know, and, you know, no excuses, you know what I mean? And I say that with all sincerity because I've never allowed anything to be an excuse for me to fail or not reach my goal.

And I think, man, when it's inside you, you know, don't let nothing stand in your way, man. And, you know, go for it. You know, that's, that's what I would say to any of those guys, but that's where it all started from, man. Orlando, Florida, Ivy lane had a great, uh, director in Lester Sears who really took it. You know, uh, being a mentor, he really took that serious, man, you know, cause he saw the impact, you know, and the first guy I ever remember walking through that gym with a belt, his name was Tommy Dixon from Carver Shores, man, he was one of the champions on the Navy team, and just, you know, knowing that a guy

that I knew, you know, could carry that belt so proud, man, I think it lit a fire in me as a youngster. You know, and once I stepped in that ring, you know, it was kind of, you know, it was kind of it was an epitaph of what I was going to do. I knew that I found my home in that ring. So boxing kind of

choose me from circumstances in life, you know what I mean? And if it wasn't for boxing, man, I can truly say, I don't know where I would be, but it was everything and I gave them all and looking back now, I don't have any regrets, you know what I'm saying?

So, you know, I just got, I have a lot with experience. I feel right now it's the time that I really want to give that back, you know what I'm saying, to the sport of boxing. That's what I wanted to talk to you about right now for these boxers. Who do you see right now that you could help or that could benefit from you right now, Torvald? You know, it could be anybody.

But who do you think right now that you see that could really benefit from you? You know what? When I look at it from a spec, man, it's like i don't want to say a lot of fighters but it's like you got to be able to see it you feel me you know and when you when things happen like that organically you know i gotta be the fit for the right type of fight you know what i'm saying i'm i don't think i'm the type of trainer for everyone, but I think I'm that trainer for a select few that truly, you know, want to get, you know, want to learn that other side. You feel me? It's just, it's different.

You know, I'm not saying I'm better than anybody, but it is different. I get it. And I know you won't say it, but I say it. And, you know, we ain't going to say no name, but I know deep down in your heart, you look at some boxers. You like me. I can help that motherfucker. I know if I had him over here up under me, that bullshit sloppy foot movement,

head movement he doing, I can change all that. That's I can see it in you when you talk and I can see it when you at the matches, like you want to say it, but you want to be respectful because you was a boxer yourself. I understand. I get it. But for somebody like me who ain't never boxed, that can't box, and I can see some shit. Man, I look at it like this,

like, you want to help a boxer, man. Hall of Fame or career. I look at it like some boxers who got the money now, like, it's okay to reach out to a bad motherfucker like you was. I know you watched me get my ass tore up. Help me.

Help me. You're going to win some, you're going to lose some. It's all about how you come back. How was you able to come back from losses? Who did you have around you? What was your support team like? I always had a good support

team and i was blessed with some great trainers like i was mentioning jimmy williams buddy mcgirt orlando quayle those are my three trainers man when you look back at how they really helped develop a lot of hall of fame career fighters you know i was blessed but it was just the resilience man i just was always a champion at heart man when you had the amateur background i had and then you had to move through the ranks like i had to move to through the ranks you know you kind of feel like if you can if you can train and prepare you think you can beat anybody man you know mean? And when I look back on my career, I think, you know, my experience says, man, if I give it 100%,

I don't cheat myself. I really get on that, you know, in that training camp and work, man, I mean, nine times out of ten, I came out on top, man. So, you know, it says a lot about work ethic, commitment, and dedication.

You know what I mean? And it's okay for this era, man, to really look back, you know what I mean, and see what, you know, guys before them had to go through to get to where they were at, man. And I can truly say, I don't ever recall where I had the, you know, what you would call the powers to be, you know, really behind me. So when I look back at my career, man, I truly believe, man, I got it done with my left hand and my right hand, my will to win, with my skill set. And so when you know that, that if you put your best foot forward,

you can give yourself a chance to win, you know, why not go for the stars or reach for the clouds, man? I mean, because my history says win, you know, why not go for the stars or reach for the clouds, man? I mean, because my history says that, you know, I'm a champion within, bro. I won on every level that I proved when it was my turn, bro. You know, I won. So, you know,

I don't have no regrets, man. I just want to plant that in these guys. That, you know what I mean? Your trainer have to be able to motivate you and inspire you bro all my trainers i was i was i was a student of the game that i didn't mind construct the criticism bro i never took it personal i went and got better you know what i'm saying so i think a lot of times we got to be coachable you know i'm not saying i know it all but i'm thinking

through my experience bro i can truly tell you that you know through hall i'm not saying i know at all but i'm thinking through my experience bro i can truly tell you that you know through hall i can show you some things maybe you know i mean you don't know about the game that's it you feel me and i think my team man gotta have a good solid team somebody that kind of have been through that before that can lend, you know, some experience, man. You feel me? But I believe I'm a hell of a trainer just by, you know, knowing the game, being in the game so long, man. And, you know, it's only going to take one, you feel me,

one guy that truly can see it. You know, now my son is a hell of a fighter, bro. My son is a hell of a fighter. I ain't going to take nothing away from Junior. But, you know, family business is the best business. You see what I'm saying? And so, you know, but I got a nephew, Bubba, man. In two years, he's coming out, man.

And so I'm going to leave that alone. I'm going to just leave that under wraps. But he in the Army right now. He in the Army right now. He's from Houston. And, you know, Jameson, man. James uh Jamison Cole gonna be a bad one boy he's Southpaw you know he lean he real slender got power you know uh good feet so I'm looking for him to really make an impact on the game man that's my uh my nephew my youngest sister's son so you, just want to put that out there.

For sure. From a champion like yourself to another champion. Like you said, if another champion was a champion, then he'd lose. Is it hard for some boxers to take advice from other boxers? Like when I'm hitting that and I'm saying it, like a motherfucker like Wilder. I think Wilder could benefit from someone like you. I'm just that and I'm saying it like a motherfucker, like wild. I think being a fit from someone like you, I'm just throwing it out there. I know he's like over the age,

whatever, but I'm talking about five years. If you would take five years ago, if he really got with somebody that could really teach him some things, instead of just relying on your power, I think we'll be looking at a different Deontay Wilder right now. It's not taking him nothing away from his

Hall of Fame career when he's done done. But it's starting to show now that he really had no skills. It was just all knockout power, look ahead movement, and he was just trying to catch you. I'm saying,

is it hard for someone like him to reach out to someone like you and other high caliber boxers in the past for help or advice or have he even asked? No, I don't want to say that he haven't. No, I mean, I think I've got on record. I've really put my name out

there, man. I really, you know, but like I said, I think they have to see it, bro, in order for them to really take advantage of it. But I think it might be the people that they respect, the people that they're loyal to, you know what I mean,

that might be swaying them one way or another. I don't think it's really the fighters. I think the fighters sometimes, you know, they're loyal to a fault sometimes. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes it's not until afterwards

they can look back and say, damn, maybe what if, you know what I mean? But, you know, I put it out there, man. I saw some things that I felt I could have helped with Wilder and was willing to do it, but never got the call, man. And, you know, unfortunately, but, you know, I'm not going to say anything about nobody care, man, because, you know, in this era today era today you know it's everyone's sensitive you know so you gotta tread lightly but man i just want to say i never thought that anybody had to fire anyone but just bring somebody in that can just you know maybe team up with your training maybe work in sequence or important with your

training but just have somebody on over there man that can really have a clean eye that can be critical and be really constructive and be you know willing to show you how it goes bro and i think once they get a feel of it, they're going to catch on because they know the game a little bit. They just, I don't think they've gotten the lessons. And, you know, I've been hearing that these guys

and I hear that they're just not training hard like they used to back in the day. And I don't know if they're going to training camp from home or they're really going to training camp. You know, a lot of times back in the old days, you had to leave for eight weeks, you feel me, and go in hibernation, so to speak. Nowadays, I think most of these guys are training from the comfort of their home. You feel me? And so I don't know how diligent these guys are really putting in a training campaign.

I don't know what they're doing. I would love to be a fly on the wall to see how they're approaching it because it's all preparation. It's that eight weeks before the fight is going to determine what happens on fight night. You feel me? And if those sacrifices aren't being made, bro, it ain't going to happen on fight night. You got to put yourself through it. They say these boys still having sex during trying to count, man.

Oh, no. See, that's what I mean. All the old traditions are thrown out the window. And I think the further they get away from that, I think we're going to continue to see these guys fail at the highest of levels, man. That's what really been hurting me, watching these guys. They say David Haney and Bill Haney were buying honey packs

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See, hey, hey, hey, hey, Tom, just being like, what do you think about that whole situation with Garcia and Haney, man? What do you think about this? Man, you know what? I wish Garcia would have made weight. He would have been world

champion. I wish that, you know what I'm saying, Haney would have fought his fight rather than fight the wrong style fight to get the win. He should have did what he normally is accustomed to doing. Boxing this guy, moving around, using your footwork. So he

fought the wrong style. Now, they have the PEDs involved. You know what I mean? I, myself, I just stay away from that, bro, because my experiences with it, you know what I mean? I don't think the world is ready for that. So I'm just stay away from that. But

if he's a young man, and if he made a mistake, man, let's not crucify the guy. You feel me? At this time. You know what I mean? Now, we make mistakes, but we don't ever make two mistakes in a row. Like, you know, I've been accused of it. We don't need that alone. But at the same time,

man, I want to see Ryan, man, really put his best foot forward because I see a guy with a lot of talent. A lot of talent, man. His gifts, you know, you cannot deny. He has some of the freakiest power in that left hand. You feel me? Now, let's just do it the right way.

Now, motivate yourself to show him that you don't need nothing to be successful. And I think when I look at that fight, I don't think he did anything extraordinary in that fight. I think Haney just anything extraordinary in that fight i think haney just didn't fight his fight you know i mean i think that gave him the edge now if they did it again because we don't have to run it back the right way make sure everybody on an even playing field

and seeing the results of the fight you know i mean that's what i'm looking forward to man the rematch a clean slate let's get it right. Let's do it again. I had a recent conversation with Champ Floyd about this. My guy. We was talking about Stevenson and Tank. Tank got power.

Floyd, I mean, Shakur got skills. How do you see that fight playing out, or do you think it will be a rehydration clause in their fight? I don't know, man. I think Shakur don't have a problem making that weight. They don't want the two out there. You know what I'm saying?

It'll be an interesting fight. It'll be a really interesting fight. Style-made fights. And I can see Stevenson winning a decision just with his knowledge of the game distance his mastery of distance but i can see giovante davis also closing the show shedding out the light so that's why we tune in to see the fights you feel me these are two contrasting styles and some one style gotta get you know now, Javante Davis can put that pressure on you too now. So don't think just because

Shapiro has good, you know, feet and can really, he has a good control of distance that Javante couldn't cut the ring off. But boy, it's just going to be hell hitting Shapiro one punch with two punches. Especially with a combination.

You know, you can hardly hit him with a handful of runs. This is how you feel me? This is how dialed in he is on his defense. You know, this man fight 12 rounds and come out unstaved. There's only a few fighters have done that. You feel me? Pretty good through it. You know what I mean?

I've been bragging a little bit. You feel me? 23 years in the game looking like this and guys like Shakur Stevenson, masters of defense, bro. So anytime you fight a guy like Shakur, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare, bro. Because that's the most frustrating thing is not being able to touch that guy like you want to. I'm going to pick your brain for a second. When you're talking about putting pressure on a fight,

do you boxers throw certain punches where you make a cane close and you're like you know i'm gonna say this one i'm gonna you know i'm gonna say that for later because i'm gonna set him up how do you but it's like chess how do you set somebody up like i really want to know because i can see i watch your match with you it's hard to describe it you hit him with a left hook but it was you threw a punt right hand and you made they pan you a certain way, try to cover up. Well, they left this exposed. Right, right. So do y'all.

We call that touching. We call that just touching them to see where they at, open them up. And I've always been a deceptive type of fighter. That's my game. You feel me? I'm always trying to, you know, if they want to fight, I'm going to bop. If they want to bop, I'm going's my game you feel me i'm always trying to you know if they want to fight i'm a box if they want a box i'm a fight you feel me if they want to be aggressive i'm gonna use that aggressive against i'm gonna step to the side i'm gonna give them angles so you gotta always be

willing or knowing how to set that trap the most effective tool i've had in boxing is a guy's overconfident when a guy think he got you or a guy really think he's having a good round and he get overconfident that's the best time to really land something big that they're not expecting and i've always had a knack of getting that shot off when they least expect it how do you really know tarvin when you hit somebody that you know it really done what it's supposed to do? Like, you might not knock them out yet, but you know you're going to take a lot out of their funky ass. You know what?

Another two more rounds, your ass will fight him. Like, do you know? They go to shaking a little bit when you hit them, you know what I'm saying? They don't react right away, and you know they... You can feel it, man, when you touch them right when you turn that knuckle over on him. And you know, even when you're not hunching,

you know, even when you're not loading up, when you're putting that motion behind that shot, it can look very light from the outside, but it's a thump on the inside that only probably you and that guy can hear. And you know when you're landing that shot solid, man. So a lot of

time to the body too, man. That body shot. I advise those young guys invest to the body, bro. That's the best thing you can do for yourself as a professional fighter. Because the body, well, it opens up the head later or it just makes you vulnerable, man.

It makes you vulnerable. It really weakens your legs. If you can consistently go down there after round five, six, bro, that fighter's going to be a little weakened. He ain't going to be moving as swift as he was early on. And believe it or not, then he's more ready for the knockout. You feel me? But a lot of times these fighters don't let the fight come to them.

But with Dove, they get anxious. They get overexcited. They don't let the fight come to them, bro. If you let the fight come to you by doing your game plan, you realize that the fight will happen just like you expected it to. You just got to let all the chips fall into place and start reacting a lot more instead of trying to force the issue.

Just reacting on what your guy is doing will make him put thoughts inside of his head as well. So all of those things are little gems that you would get when you working with a fighter with so much experience like myself.

It's so many other ways when in preparation, I can help you get ready to upset the world. Because a lot of times, bro, you know, if you don't do something that they're not expecting you to do, then you're really not putting a dent in the thing. You're going to have to upset somebody that they don't think you can win in order to really, you know, put a mark on the game. You know what I'm saying? So if you favor the win all the time, there's no mystery in it. But it's that underdog, that underdog that they're not planning for,

that really, you know, that keeps the game alive. You know what I'm saying? them I think teach the game a lot you know what I'm saying did you think Frank Martin had a chance with Tank he would have had to fight the perfect fight you know he would have had to fight the perfect fight I think if he would have been aggressive round three

and just really started you know seeing could he back Javante up instead of just allowing Javante to come to him. He could have probably challenged Javante a little bit more. But eventually, I think his talent was going to, Javante's talent was going to show up. Here's a guy that's, you know, he's been a child prodigy in boxing. You feel me? Been in the game since he was a kid. He got that Mayweather 2-inch

early in his career. He's been on that level for so long, he's used to it. And a lot of times, these guys get there for the first time like Martin. You know, those lights

can be intimidating, bro. You know, and Martin fought well. He fought well. And he's going to become a better fighter from this. So don't sleep on Martin, man, because if you go back and look at all these fighters, Javante has fought Ryan Garcia, Pitbull Cruz, you feel me? And now the guy we were just speaking of, these guys are going to get better.

You know what I mean? So, you know, when you get in there with Javante, you get better. Look at Rowley. You know, Rowley, even Rowley won a title after he fought, got knocked out by Javante. So I think he'll come back better and stronger. So don't sleep on him more, and he'll be back. Let's talk about the great things you did.

You fought in different weight classes, moving up. How was you able to train like that, bro? Like that, like people understand how hard that is moving up and moving up. How was you able to do that? They train like I was that I was a big light heavyweight. I always felt that, you know, I just say I stayed at light heavyweight because I thought I was the best light heavyweight. But when you look at me, I was a natural 220 pounder. You feel me?

And, you know, so, you know, yeah, man, that weight killed me for a long time, bro, but cruiserweight, I won a title. I beat Danny Green. And heavyweight, I was undefeated. I never lost as a heavyweight. You know what I'm saying? So,

I really wish I could have had a shot to you know, to fight for the title, man. Who knows? Back then, you know, Klitschko was on his way out. AJ was not the skillful guy he is today. Then Wilder, we know Wilder had some flaws in his game. So, you know, who knows what would have happened if I would have got a shot. You know what I mean? But, you know what I mean?

I think I was a little too small for the big guys, but I still, I think the magic would have showed up regardless. You feel me? I wish he was around when my baby mama, boyfriend was beating my ass. I wish I had somebody in your, your mind corner to go and talk to.

Cause I didn't have nobody. I just had to go put the police on this nigga. You know what? No, I don't want to hurt nobody, shoot nobody. I'd rather put the police on this nigga. You know what? No, I don't want to hurt nobody, shoot nobody. I'd rather put the police in line. Oh, no.

You're a civilian, you know. I got dead on my head. The dude hit me so hard in my jaw, I lost vision. Why didn't you know you? She told you. But, you know, I was picking. You know, I would pull up stunting, you know. Oh, okay, okay. You playing? Yeah, yeah, I was picking, you know, you know, I, you know, I would pull up stun, you know. Oh, OK.

You play. Yeah. Yeah. I'm playing. Got caught. You know, I got caught. Right. OK.

Let's talk about, you know, you know, you talked about your upbringing and getting in the box. And how was it when you when you start making a little money? Like I want what I'm saying is when I'm when I'm hitting that, did you have a little bit more friends when you start getting money? Different people coming in when you start being successful, you still enter rise starting to have a little bit more friends when you started getting money? Different people coming in. When you started being successful, your entourage started to get a little bigger than what it was. Let's talk about that. What is something that you could say to a young athlete right now today when they start coming in this kind of

money? What to watch out for? Stuff like that. Well, again, man, you know, OGs, bro. You know, OGs that are really out here trying to show these guys a different way. Honestly, you feel me? You know, they never, bro. You know, OGs that are really out here trying to show these guys a different way. Honestly, you feel me? You know, they never, there's no school you can go to to prepare for

success when you come from where we come from. You feel me? So, you know, but it was a good feeling, man, just being able to provide for the people that I love, you know, doing things, you know, for mom, you know, buying houses and making sure my sisters was good and giving my kids the life that I love, you know, doing things, you know, for mom, you know, buying houses and making sure my sister was good and giving my kids the life that I only dreamed about.

You know what I'm saying? That's really what it's all about, bro. You feel me? And hoping that, you know, we plant the seeds that can continue to grow. You know what I mean? I'm very proud of my son. You know, I think that, you know, once he set his mind to anything, he can achieve anything he wants. And my daughter, she's proven, you know, graduate from Florida that she can do anything she wants. So I'm very proud of my kids, man. And, uh, you know, and, uh, for any aspiring champion, bro, like just listen to the people that are really, you know, there for you, man, you know, and, uh, I was cool, man.

Uh, I think, I don't think man. You know, and I was cool, man. I think, I don't think none of my friends took advantage of me. I just think maybe I just had a little bit too much fun sometimes, you know, made some bad decisions along the way in life, you know what I'm saying? We all have. You know, we all have, but

you know, overall, man, I wouldn't change a thing, but like, you know what I mean? I'm still here, bro. I'm vibrant. You feel me? And, you know, overall, man, I wouldn't change a thing. But, like, you know what I mean? I'm still here, bro. I'm vibrant. You feel me? And, you know, God got me. You feel me? And, like, I think when you look at the energy, bro, it's like that's what, you know, life is all about, man. It's how you feel, bro.

And I think, you know, I'm glad I don't look like what I've been through. You feel me? For sure. For sure. For that, man, I'm like, I just, like I said, man, right now, I enjoy retirement, bro. But like I say, my job ain't done yet, bro, because if I don't even give this knowledge and experience that I got away, bro, what good is, you feel me? What good, what a sacrifice that I made if I'm not able to give that back. So I think I know where my future lies.

I'm going to help a lot of kids, bro. We're going to develop a lot of champions, man. I'm going to make and try to develop a lot of these fighters in my image. You feel me? So, you know what I mean? And that's what I think, you know. And once I do that, man, we're going to see the difference. It's only going to take one, one talent to come and really get these lessons, bro, of what I can really show them.

And I call it sprinkling the magic on them, bro. I think everybody got to get in touch with it. You feel me? Because I think it's truly something in the water over here in Florida. I mean, you know, you is the magic, man. Like I said earlier, I say the same thing. If I'm a boxer, man, I want to be great. I want to take something from each and every

one of y'all, man. I want love to come in and sit down and pick y'all brain. If I'm boxing and learn different moves. That way I could be ahead of everybody. You want to be the best? You know what I'm saying? You have to beat the best. Well, let's go out and train the best.

Let's get the best trainer I can get. Let's get the best footwork coach I can get. If I need to motivate her, then let me get the best motivation. I want to have all these things. Our iHeartRadio Music Festival. Presented by Capital One. Coming back to Las Vegas. Two nights. September 20th and 21st. thing. to believe. Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Don't miss A$AP Rocky, Big Sean,

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It's like, you know, Mr. Ripley meets Catch Me If You Can. I mean, the guy hoodwinked everyone. He was very ambiguous and sketchy, quite honestly, about what the company did and how it made so much money overnight. What prosecutors allege in the indictment is that most of that $12,000 goes directly to Santos' personal bank account. I would go down these rabbit holes and start thinking about, like, what is the nature of truth? You know, like, what can I actually, like, tell the reader is real about this guy's story? My phone is literally blowing up inquiries about saying,

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I want to be great, so I studied Richard Pryor, the Burning Max, Red Sound, no, Red Fire. I studied these guys. Student of the game. I don't want to skip no steps. I don't want to skip no steps. I think it's a culture thing. man. I think these guys got to

start getting back to the root of it, bro. You feel me? And it's really yourself against you, man. You know what I mean? I looked in that mirror a lot of nights, man. You feel me? I didn't want to get up at five, but I was driven, bro, because I just knew that if I didn't, my opponent was out there

doing it anyway. You feel me? So I just did everything I felt like. I had some gifts, too, because I just knew that if I didn't, my opponent was out there doing it anyway. You feel me? So I just did everything I felt like. I had some gifts too, man. I had some gifts. I think God blessed me with a nice thinking cap to be able to put that in my fight game. See, they could never put this on the tail of the tape.

You know, they can say how long your arms are, you feel me? How much power you got, but they can't measure your thinking power. You feel me? So I think when you, you know, when you look at my career, I'm always be underestimated because what made me a solid, great, a great fighter was it didn't show up on the tell and the take. Okay, let me pick your brain right quick, man. How truly great was Manny Pacquiao? Truly great. Truly great.

You know, we wish that fight with him and Floyd would have happened in their prime. You know, when I look at that fight, when they did fight, you can see, you know, Floyd was always seemed like he was one or two steps ahead of Manny. You feel me? And that's that thinking power that I was mentioning, talking about today. Even though Manny had good feet, Manny had the power, and he just never could get a step or two ahead of Floyd. You feel me? Even though, you know, he probably got a couple shots,

he never was able to turn the tide. Floyd just outbox out boxing masterfully. So I think that probably would have happened even if they were in that prime. You feel me? So, you know, Manny was a great fighter. You don't win as many titles and beat as many legends as he has not being a great fighter, you know. So, yeah, Manny, all-time great.

You ever suffered any injuries during training camp? And what was that like? Like the mental part of it, like another setback. Like how you deal with those setbacks? You know, sometimes, you know, in the latter part of my career, it was injuries all the time, you know, ankle injury, you know, knee. But somehow, bro, you just made it through.

You feel me? Um, it was times when my trainer, he can tell you this too. He didn't know how I was going to perform because I didn't have a, not a good day in training camp, but it was all mental. You feel me? So when I got in there, I take my ankle up and it was against Jonathan Banks. It was a, one of my heavyweight, one of my last heavyweight fights. And I knocked Jonathan Banks out. It was a

good performance. But leading up to that fight, bro, I cut my hand. I had bad ankles the whole time. I couldn't really get my my sprint set like I wanted to. Running was hard, but we just never stopped. You know what I mean? Every morning we got up, even if we had to

walk and limp and make it, you know, it'll take us a mile to get warmed up to get my threshold up we just did it you know i'm saying it was a struggle bro it was it went through the pain but then again when i got in that ring everything came together you feel me so i didn't put on myself and i didn't really know how i was going to perform but i did the work and i didn't quit on myself and i didn't really know how i was going to perform but i did the work and i didn't put on myself so when i got in there everything came together we knocked it down in the ninth round yes you did you ever uh suffered a hand injury during a fight like like like even though you know you probably even won the fight but you you knew that you know you didn't have certain power in a certain hand or not that you hurt. I've seen some boxer the other day, he broke his shoulder or something.

Yeah, yeah. And he finished the fight. Tim Fimo Lopez just hurt his hand in his last fight. And I spoke to him after the fight. And see, that's the thing. In training camp is when we mostly hurt our hands. Because we're not wrapping our hands as tight as we would if we was in a fight but it's at practice where you gotta protect your hand the most because if you hurt your hands

you out of business so it takes veterans like myself and other guys that know this that you gotta get that athletic sticky tape two inch tape tape and you got to put that on your skin bruh, to keep those small particle bones intact because if you punching like most of these guys should be punching like a pro, you're going to do some damage if all you have

is that rat doing practice nah, you need to protect your hand much better, put that two inch tape on and use that as the like a little cast then wrap and then take some more so you gotta protect your hands and i think that's where these guys are hurting their hands at we're not really protecting your hands and that two inch tape is expensive if you order it off eBay and all that, it can get expensive, but you got to make that investment in your career. That definitely makes sense on that part.

Give me your Mount Rushmore box. Your top five. Mount Rushmore. Yours. You don't have to be in a particular person. Sugar Ray Leonard is definitely on there for me. Muhammad Ali. Roy Jones Jr. is on there.

Mayweather. And one of my all-power-power greats, man. Roberto Duran. You feel me? Roberto Duran on there. Duran made the cut, bro. But, you know, those are my favorites. You know, I come from that generation, bro.

You know, Ali. You know, I can go back to Jack Johnson. You feel me? That I have a, you know, real, you know, connection with Jack Johnson. You feel me? Was one of my favorites, historically. But, you know, Ali, it all started with Ali for me. You feel me?

Because I was that young when it was with Ali for me. You feel me? Cause I was that young when it was nothing else, but Ali, you feel me? And one of my greatest moments, man, when I saw him light the torch, you feel me? 1996 in the Olympics. I'll never forget that. You know what I mean? We didn't even know who's going to light the torch. And lo and behold, it's Muhammad Ali, man.

That was one of the most teary eyed moments I ever had, man. Representing the country. You did. on that track with all the greats. You feel me? I think you won like three times that year, didn't you? Oh, yeah. In 95, I won every championship in 95

going into the Olympics. You know, yeah, man. I wanted to get that gold for me and Roy, man, for Florida. You feel me? Because, you know, at the time in 1988, I saw the great Roy Jones Jr. in Seoul, Korea

get robbed of that gold. And that moment in time was instrumental for me, man. I got off the couch right then and ran three miles. Boy, I can promise you, I ain't looked back since. You feel me? I've been running there since, dog.

I got the Roy Jones. We praying for you too, fam. We praying for you, man. You and your family. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, man. Yeah, yeah. You have any stories? Did you ever get to meet Muhammad Ali? What was his aura like if you ever get to meet muhammad alito like what was this aura like if you ever got to meet him like this i was blessed i was blessed to meet him man he was a little older

uh but i commentated on one of leila ali fights she had early on in uh washington dc and he was there and we were all in the dressing room you know we were with the family i had a chance to meet him sit down with him and everything like that just a beautiful guy man um just everyone loved on me i mean that's that's all i can say is all love when he was around and whenever his name was mentioned and uh yeah and layla and i you know we always had a friendship over the years you know buddy mcgirt was sports her training as well so we used to go to training camp together and all that um but yeah layla man uh uh just to see her career and how it went and everything uh being there and and just being knowing that she came from that great you know

lineage man that that's amazing bro you know our leaves it's synonymous in boxing definitely the goat you know i mean for his own concern oh man definitely go you'll go to yourself man you did some great things in boxing tarvel man you know that's what this show is about to bring light to it for the people out there that don't know antonio tarvel man um was a hell of a boxer man go and check it out any aspiring boxers out there any boxers out there now as you know out there now that, you know, you want help, but you really don't want to rub your people and your team the wrong way, fuck them. Reach out to somebody like Tarver, man. Get your ass some help so you can stop getting your ass beat.

And, you know, when you're winning, you get all the money. You know what I'm saying? You want to stay inside. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Man, come holler at Tarver and get right Tarver, man. I just want to thank you personally, man, for coming on this show, man. Personally to the Bubba Dub show, man.

Like I say, anything you'd like to say to the people, anything you want the people to know, you can say it right now on the show, man. Let us know anything you want to say. Hey, man, just follow me on at Antonio Tarver on all social media platforms. I got a great podcast, Togo's Take. It's the most informative take in boxing. Just remember where you heard it first. This is my platform where I really break down the superstars

of boxing and see who they're fighting, and we try to break down all the major matchups and let you know what I think how the fight's going to go, and then I give you the recap of how close I was or if I was all wrong altogether. But we let you know how it goes and then what else to look forward to in the

coming months in boxing. So we're just trying to stay active, man. Try to show up to all the fights. You feel me? If you want to, I'll just take that joke fight and make sure you tap in. So that's what it's all about, man. Just giving back to the game right now. All right, for sure, man.

Hey, thank y'all for tuning in today to the Bubba Dub Show. I told y'all asses that I had a legend stopping by. Antonio Tarver, man. Stop by, sit down, you know what I'm saying? Chopped it up, gave us great game, great insight on boxing, man. We thank you so much, brother, man.

God bless. Can't wait to see you again. I appreciate it, man. God bless you. Thanks for having me, my guy. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. The Volume.

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