Club Shay Shay - Tracy McGrady: "LeBron and D-Wade, skill-wise, are not touching KD and Kyrie."

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

In this special rewind episode of Club Shay Shay, revisit one of Shannon's favorite segments from the show so far.00:22 “LeBron and D-Wade, skill wise, are not touching KD and Kyrie”05:04 Almost winning the NBA Finals with the Spurs06:44 “Kobe was more skilled than Jordan”Listen & follow more FOX Sports podcasts: http://sprtspod.fox/applepodcasts#DoSomethinB4TwoSomethin & Follow Club Shay Shay:                                                                 https://www.instagram.com/clubshayshayhttps://twitter.com/clubshayshayhttps://www.facebook.com/clubshayshayhttps://www.youtube.com/c/clubshayshay Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. Very deep bag. Yeah, he got a Santa Christmas bag. He got one of those bags. Yeah, he got one of them bags. Hey, hey, he got a couple sacks that he got on his back, bro. He's carrying around. When you look at Kyrie, he got game from the three-point to the mid-range.

Have you ever seen a man his size finish at the rim with either hand, kisses, the floaters, the fallaways? Have you seen anybody in your time and even now be able to finish like Kyrie? Yeah. Yeah. Rod Strickland. Wow. Rod Strickland was one of the greatest finishers at that size that I've ever seen.

And he had handles too. And I think that, you know, it's crazy. I think that's Kyrie's godfather. OK. I think there's a relationship between those two. Right. But yes, Strickland. Strickland. Oh, my God. He was he was one of the best at finishing around the rim and had the handles you mentioned kd and when people talk about one-on-one they say kd the guy's seven foot tall he got three point reign he got the mid-range pull up he got the hands they pull up he doesn't really he doesn't really try he likes you like the mid-range you don't really try to get all the way to the rim although he can can. Besides the height, obviously seven foot tall makes you very unique.

Besides the height, what makes KD so unique? You start. Shannon, you can't leave out the height. You can't leave out the height because that's what makes him so unique. He's seven foot, and to be able to shoot the ball and be efficient that way. Yes.

You know what I'm saying? Like, think about it. This man is shooting 50-some percent, and it's mostly jumpers. It is. Right? Like, that is insane to me. So, I can't leave out the height on KD because that's what makes him so unique and dynamic. KD Kyrie, are they the most skilled pair of teammates that we've ever seen?

Without a doubt. Without a shadow of a doubt. I haven't seen a pair, a duo that skilled Mike and Pip. But Pip ain't have no offensive game like that. Jordan had the offensive game. Nah, but Pip did, though. Pip did have offensive game, but Mike was just so great. I mean, Pip did average 20 points now.

Yeah. You know, he was the all-star game MVP the year Mike left. He finished in the top five in MVP voting. But when I'm talking about you look at what Kyrie, how Kyrie can date with the Rutgers, and you look at KD, you mentioned KD's seven-foot tall, from the three-point all the way to the rim can do it all. Pippen got that and had it in the back.

No, he doesn't. But I mean, that's the only thing I can go off of, though. I can't. There's no other dynamic duo that compares to KD and Kyrie. I mean, even if you look at what LeBron and D-Wade was, skill-wise, they're still not touching them two boys. Right. Even if I would have played with Grant Hill, I don't know if G. Hill and myself, I think it would have been a challenge. But you got two 6'8 guys that can handle.

I can shoot. G. Hill had a mid-range post-game. Can pass. Can see the floor. You know what? I'm glad you brought up Grant Hill. Do you think about what it could have been had he not suffered that ankle injury? Because he played on that bum ankle in Detroit.

And we never, and people don't know we were robbed of an opportunity to see Grant Hill in his in his true glory we were robbed of seeing greatness G Hill was such a a great talent such a cerebral player um man he had it all, bro. And it was just unfortunate that we never got the opportunity to play with each other consistently because of that ankle. And I know deep down in my heart, if he was healthy,

I would have competed for a championship my years in Orlando. You were in San Antonio your last I think that was your last year you were so close to that title T-Mac you you had it you were 20 seconds away as you're sitting on the bench you're like okay we got this we got this one just make a couple of free throws they gotta follow us we're gonna good. As you're sitting on the bench, what's going through your mind? So let me ask you a question. Yes. You play your career in Denver.

Yeah. And you retire from Denver. Yeah. You enjoy life offseason. Somebody calls you up. Hey, man, we got a tight end. He's hurt. And you come in and give us a body. Sure, why not? Right. Now, there might be a coach that you have the utmost respect for. Right.

Right? But when you come back, that tight end is healthy. You ain't really getting no burn. Y'all make a run for the Super Bowl. Right. You don't really play like that. Right. Y'all win the Super Bowl.

Do you feel like you was a part of that? Nah. We competitive, bro. Yeah. Come on. You're right. You're right. We competitive, bro.

That's what Matt Barnes said. Matt Barnes said he felt like that when he was with the Warriors. Like, yeah, we won the ring, but I ain't do nothing. If you can't contribute to the battles, I don't feel a part of that. It was a great experience because I've never been that deep in the playoffs. And to go through that run with them, oh, man, it was amazing. I love every bit of it. But in terms of if we would have won the ring, I wouldn't have felt validated as a champion.

Right. You know, obviously, Kobe was somebody that, you know, I considered one of the best one-on-one players. Like, he was the ceiling as far as one-on-one basketball. Right. And I knew because he was older than I was,

he came into the league before me. I knew I had to sharpen my skills And my one-on-one skills If I wanted to compete against him Right He was the measuring stick He was the bar Right, he was the bar When I'm a young kid

Looking at Kobe, I'm like, okay He's the bar He's who I got to come at, you know, and make a name for myself competing against him. So I can't leave out the height on KD because that is

that's what makes him so unique and dynamic. Is he the most skilled player that we've ever seen in the NBA because of the height? The most skilled player I've ever seen is Kobe. because of the hype? The most skilled player I've ever seen is Kobe. Okay. More than MJ.

The most skilled NBA, the most skilled basketball player I've ever seen is Kobe being Bryant. Talk about Kobe's back. Listen, man. So, you got mj right and and kobe took who mj was but enhanced the skill set had a better handle right mj didn't mj didn't shoot threes like that no kobe took it

upon and and added the three ball to his game because that's where the game evolved to. But skill-wise, I mean, the moves, the footwork, he had it all. Kobe in a one-on-one battle. Do you believe anybody could beat Kobe in a one-on-one battle? Let's just say in their prime, MJ and Kobe, one-on-one battle. Do you believe anybody could beat Kobe in a one-on-one battle? Let's just say, in their prime, MJ and Kobe, one-on-one,

who you taking? I think... I'm putting myself in it. Oh, you're okay? I will throw you in there. I put myself in there. I think if you play in-game, it'll be 5-5, maybe

it'll be 6-4-1, but I don't think it'll be 8-2 or 7-3 or anything like that. I don't know who to toss up. Okay, we're going to play a series of five. You get Kobe five times, you get MJ five times. Kobe, MJ,

what's it going to be? Is it going to Kobe, MJ. What's it going to be? Is it going to be 3-2? Is it going to be 3-0? I mean, what is it going to be? Listen, I can sit here and say it'll be 3-0, 3-3-2. I mean, it's hypothetical. I don't know. It'll never happen.

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