Club Shay Shay - Tyrese Gibson Part 1

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Tyrese Gibson joins Shannon Sharpe in this episode of Club Shay Shay for an unfiltered and insightful conversation that dives deep into his life, career, and the experiences that have shaped him. The episode starts on a playful note as Tyrese humorously tells Shannon he needs to moisturize, setting the tone for a lively discussion. The two reminisce over a glass of Coca-Cola, with Tyrese sharing the story behind his iconic Coke commercial—a defining moment that skyrocketed his career. He reveals how he arrived late to the audition but still managed to land the role, earning his first $100 and feeling like it was Christmas every day since. Tyrese reflects on his tough upbringing in Watts, California, where survival was the only goal. He talks about the 1989 California earthquake, receiving FEMA money, and repaying a friend's loan tenfold—a testament to his loyalty and gratitude. Tyrese recounts the harrowing loss of a friend who was the best basketball player he ever knew, a senseless tragedy in a neighborhood where violence was often indiscriminate. The conversation takes a deeper turn as Tyrese discusses his challenging childhood, being the youngest of four children and the only one not born in St. Louis. He shares how his family moved to LA for his father’s singing career, only for his father to leave when Tyrese was just seven years old. He opens up about his mother’s struggles with alcoholism and her belief that he was special from birth. Tyrese compares the devastation of the Watts Riots to the aftermath of the George Floyd protests, describing how the landscape of Watts was forever changed by the unrest. He reflects on how Rodney King’s brutal beating was the first time police brutality was broadcast to the world, and how it marked a turning point in the public consciousness. In discussing his film career, Tyrese talks about his latest movie 1992, a project that faced significant hurdles in Hollywood. He shares how Snoop Dogg, the film’s executive producer, played a pivotal role in generating buzz for the movie. Tyrese praises Snoop as a genius who has reinvented himself time and time again, noting that Snoop’s influence is unmatched—even more so than Jay-Z’s. He also mentions how actors like Denzel Washington and Viola Davis continually reinvent themselves, and how working with Denzel is a dream he has yet to fulfill, as Denzel is the very reason he pursued acting. #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I still got it right over there. This shit right here is so famous. You gave niggas the orange fanny pack over the shoulder and you walked your ass out like you were supposed to see a chiropractor that week life. All my life. Been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Won a slice. Got the roll of dice. That's why. All my life. I've been grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today

is one of the most popular actors in Hollywood, a prominent figure in the billion-dollar Fast and Furious franchise. He's a part of two of the highest-grossing franchises in Hollywood history. His movies have done over $10 billion in box office revenue. He's a global superstar, an iconic singer, platinum-selling songwriter, award-winning R&B veteran, a six-time Grammy nominee, accomplished producer, successful entrepreneur, multi-talented performer, artist, model, rapper, New York Times bestselling author. With over 25 years in the industry, let's put some hands together for Mr. Tyrese Gibson. Wow.

Sir, I'm on club Shay Shay. You here? I feel successful. I got to take this moment in, man. Thank you Shay Shay. You here? I feel successful. I got to take this moment in, man. Thank you, Jesus. You know what? I know you don't drink, but you know what I want to do, Tyrese? I want to take you back to where it all started from.

Oh, you want to. Okay, I got it. This is where it all started from. We ain't going to leave these there, but I want to take you back to where it started from. Wow. This is kind of what got you on the map. When you did that, did you? Wait, wait, wait.

Come on, man. Can I please just have a moment? Okay. Soak it in. Soak it in. Yeah, yeah. I got to say thank you. Well, you know what?

While you're doing that, I'm going to take you even further back. Okay. You know, black men are ashy. Come on in here. Your arms, we got to get you right, man. Let's just rub this in real quick because you're doing all that with the Coca-Cola. Long before there was Coca-Cola, there was the black man ash. What is it?

And we got to get you right, baby. You got muscles out here. Let's go on again. Come on, man. Get them right. We don't need you to go R&B music video level. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, you a little ashy out here.

Thank you so much. Man, this thing like olive oil. There you go, baby. Smooth it out. That's what I'm saying. Y'all can laugh off camera. I don't mind. Shea Shea, I just want to tell you, brother, before we get started, man, I am absolutely honored to be here. We are honored to have you. I am very grateful. Is that good right there? Yeah, you good, man. I appreciate it. There you go. Now we right. Now don't be flexing this shit. You ain't got to tell. You know, you're rubbing it in, giving niggas the forklift.

I don't know if I'll be able to sit in the chair. I'll be slipping and sliding all out. So if I start to move, that's what it is. I just want to say, man, what an honor and a pleasure it is to be on your platform. And I think we live in a world right now sadly where black culture specifically if we did a better job in a department of giving the love and the respect where it's due we could all show up for each other versus losing so much sleep over somebody else's gifts and blessings I want to just say to you I appreciate intro. It's a little uncomfortable to listen to my Wikipedia

page, but my brother, you are doing it. Thank you. And I am not only proud of what you're doing, but I'm proud of the pivots. You see, I came in it like this and I allow God to say this and this and this. And so every time somebody laugh at you you when you're making the pivot, when God sends you the vision, the idea to go do something else, you get laughed at. People make a mockery because, you know, we love to put each other in the box. You from the NFL. What you trying to do? And here you are breaking the Internet with every interview. And here you are breaking the Internet with every interview. And I know Cat Williams is going to be a tough act to follow. And I'm not here to say nothing crazy or controversial.

I'm going to say some shit. But I just want to tell you that I'm very proud of you. And I appreciate you considering that moisture because I wasn't going to make it through this interview with Ashy Arms the whole goddamn interview but but they look good my hands I'm here yes we are listen we've been in this black skin for a long time yeah light skin and white people they don't understand that the moment you step out that shower you put the lotion on damn an hour later you're ashy you put some more lotion on your ashy again so I I just, you know. So I might need to get some of that what you got, because I feel better right now.

That thing feels smooth. There you go. That's moisture, baby. I got you, man. A little glistening, not much. Yeah. There you go. I got to feel good about myself.

I'm honored to be here, man. Thank you, man. I'm proud of you, brother. Thanks for having me. I appreciate that. Yes, sir. All right. Well, now, you got Coca-Cola.

I appreciate that. Yeah. I don't drink as much as I'd like to. Wow. That's a real situation right there. But I'm going to do this and I'm still hit a glass to celebrate. So I'm not going to talk about the greatness of a black man. I'm going to talk to the greatness of a black man. Cheers to you, sir. I appreciate it. So proud of you, man. Proud of everything. Keep flying. Keep killing it. Keep using your stage and your platform to bless us all, man. man cheers to you sir appreciate so proud of you man proud of everything keep flying thank you keep killing it keep using your stage and your platform to bless us all man cheers to you my

brother that coca-cola kind of strong ain't it is it's been a while since i had hey this is a coca-cola product it's mani made apple juice it's all in the family tell us how the Coca-Cola commercial came about. Did you audition for it or you saw a flyer? So my music teacher, rest in peace, name is Reggie Andrews. And I was at school that day, that week. that week. And he got a phone call that they were doing a national audition in like five different parts

of the states, like D.C., you know, Philly, Atlanta. And they were looking for this face, this fresh face

for the Coke commercial. And they called my school because my school was known for the performing arts. I went to Locke High School, L-O-C-K. I graduated in 96. I'm old. I'm 45. But I look 17.

You see what I'm saying? I just got off the bus. So, yeah, they called my high school and said that they were looking for a male black 16 through 18. My music teacher, who's also a legend named Reggie Andrews, he wrote all the hits for the Daz Man. Whip it, baby. So, you know, the horn section of Earth, Wind & Fire came from my school. Gerald Albright, rest in peace to the drummer. Michael Jackson, one of his drummers, named Ndugu Chancellor.

All came from my school. Patrice Russian, the very famous piano player. So, we were kind of on that list of schools that if you want some talented people, call Locke High School. And what a blessing it was.

I think my music teacher had to shut down the music department. I mean, I was broken and broke. My stomach was touching my ribs. I didn't have a car, didn't have a ride. It was no way I was getting on the bus, especially with a transfer. Right. Because it was like close to downtown L.A. and I was living in Watts, South Central LA. So he literally had to work a full day at school and he ended up taking me to this audition. And I was three hours late. And the only reason that the woman wasn't gone is because her ride was stuck in traffic. So she had her bags all packed up.

Her name is Toni. I'm still in touch with her to this day. And she said, I'm so sorry. The auditions are over. And I begged her, Shay. I begged. I said, ma'am, I got here as soon as I can. I'm so sorry I'm late.

Is there any way that I can audition? And she said, I'm sorry, but we kind of went back and forth for like five minutes. I, I charmed her and, and then she said, okay, okay, okay. Just, just, just, you know, warm up over there. I started singing. So she started pulling her equipment out faster. Okay. Okay. You feeling good? She's feeling good about whatever she's hearing from the little black dude with the big teeth. And so she gave me some headphones. She put the shirt on me that I wore in the commercial.

And I just went down and sung a bunch of R&B songs. And then she said to me, you know, start singing anything about Coca-Cola. So I'm just kind of freestyling. And I had no idea. I've never done a commercial or an audition ever in my life. I don't come from a family of entertainers, no agents, no managers. doesn't matter what kind of singing I was do I was just another regular nigga in the hood singing um so when we did the audition and we got the call back didn't even know what it meant uh that's how completely green and oblivious I was about the process of trying to get on and so we got the call back then they made me kind of audition again and then we got the call back that I booked it

and so I'll never forget I was in Watts born and raised and was Martin Luther King Hospital 78 I remember what street I was on, Parmalee Avenue. I ran up and down the street screaming and yelling, did not know what my life would be, did not know what God was up to, what he was going to do. I actually had two things in mind. I wanted to know for the first time ever what having over $100 in my pocket would be. And there was this girl who lived at the end of my street. She had a mean-ass daddy named Steve. And I was flirting with his daughter for months, trying to get her phone number.

And that's all I wanted from the audition, from the coat crew. I was like, I'm going to finally get $100, and hopefully I'm going to finally get this girl's number. So as you can imagine, almost 30 years later, everything about my life literally feels like Christmas to this day. Like, I'm sitting here with you, bro. Like, I'm a huge fan of you as an NFL star, an on-air personality, club shea shea. And so every day I allow myself to enjoy the gifts, the unexpected gifts. There's all the stuff that comes with it too. You deal with it, I deal with it. But every day feels like

Christmas because when I first got on, I was waiting on the shoe to drop. I was waiting on someone to say, okay, let me get that glass slipper back. my life felt like uh the prom right you went to the prom right you went to the prom so we get a limousine for eight hours we got on our best suit we got our girl we got our little you know and we going big we out the sunroof but at some point you know that that damn limousine's got to go back right that's what my life felt like when I first got on. So I've been in a limousine for 30 years, sir. I can't believe it. Was that your aspiration to be a professional singer? What did you did you sing in the choir? Did you sing at talent shows? When did you know you could sing? I started singing at 14. That's late. i'm 45 i did the co-commercial when i was 16 okay and

i wanted two things a hundred dollars and that phone number which one did you want worse i wanted both but all things being equal if you could just get that phone number and not the $100, would you have been straight? I wanted both. I'm being honest with you, man. I wanted both. I was really like, man, I really hope this girl see this commercial and decide to give me her phone number. I got the phone number eventually.

And then her father caught us sneaking on the phone one night, and she was on punishment. Her father caught us sneaking on the phone one night, and she was on punishment. But then by the time we got to the other side of that, I had options at that point. So all of a sudden, you weren't as interested as you originally were. Listen, man, the line got long. Rolodex. You know what I mean? So it was beautiful. And I said to her, man, I gave you all the shots in the world, man.

I was just readily available. All these teeth, all this dark skin, I'm right here. And you ain't give me a shot. And now you want to give me some attention. It's too late. Brrr. After that commercial, you started modeling. You did a Tommy Hilfiger.

You did guests. You signed a recording contract. Now all of this is starting to happen yeah instantaneous life change you're not tyrese gibson you're tyrese one name now i am how did how did that how did that change you're from what south central and now they see everybody in the hood and neighborhood they see you on television that commercial came on in an hour in an hour it came on at least three times yes so that's how many times they saw you continuously how different was your life my life changed forever and it's never been the same ever since i mean we've been talking for longer than 30 seconds. Yeah.

Other people have the luxury of saying you got your five minutes of fame. Five minutes of fame would have been like five hours in my world. I had 30 seconds. And if, if, if, if, if you don't know the Lord Jesus Christ and you don't understand the power of what God has in mind for you versus your small, limited scope of thinking. There was no visions. There was no idea. My mama's not Gladys Knight, Anita Baker. My mama's not Patti LaBelle, where I'm a young singer being raised by a singer. My daddy is not Marvin Gaye, Teddy Pendergrass, Luther Vandross.

I did not grow up in a household with someone in the business so that they can give me a peek into what's possible before I did it. I'm not an NFL legend raising an NFL son, child star. You know, there was no sign and indication whatsoever that I would be here. Was there anybody in your neighborhood that you could look to? Because, you know, sometimes, you know, entertainers, they will come somebody from that from your school or from your neighborhood will come back and you can see them. You're like, oh, he from here. Well, if he from here and left and went and did that, I can be from here and leave and go do that also. Was there anybody for you to look to that says, you know what, I can be bad? No, sir. All I had was the list of people that I mentioned that graduated from my high school.

from my high school. Right. And I'm trying to think of, well, a few of them came back to speak with us at the school. Okay. But they didn't take me with them. I didn't go to none of their concerts. They didn't say, come to the studio. It did not go beyond the scope of an appearance at the school to say we are alumni and we graduated and this is what we are, what we've been.

I mean, we talk about Gerald Albright, saxophone player. I mean, another legend that, you know, some of y'all folks would be like, who is that? Ricky Minor, bass guitar player, all the Grammys, all the award shows, the most famous music director in the game. He went to my high school. And I run into Ricky Minor to this day. He'll tell you. He'd probably be very embarrassed if I tell this story. But way back in the day, forgot what year it was, but we had a massive earthquake. This is when the Golden State Bridge and everything knocked down.

I think it was 89 then. Yeah, yeah. It was huge, right? So when my house got flooded and we was out here trying to milk FEMA. I don't know if there's a statute of limitations on that, so you might need to leave that one alone. No, no, no. Look, we're going to go ahead and put some of these clothes in this goddamn water. We're going to go ahead.

Turn the goddamn water faucet on, mama. Shit, we're going to flood this out. This house wasn't even flooded. We're going to flood this guy. They out here handing out free money for people out here that's dealing with flooding? Shit, we're going to get this goddamn money flooded now got there with them goddamn underwear on the floor and flood them drawers got there uh so you know we we out here trying to get this young fema uh and and uh i called ricky minor Minor literally at the time.

It was the most money I ever seen in my life. We mean Ricky Minor exchange numbers. Please don't be offended by me telling you this people this story, Ricky. I love you. I just want people to know how big your heart is. I call Ricky Minor and I said, look, this is the situation. And it was true. We was messed up. We was, you know, the house had damage.

You know, we told the FEMA niggas it was flooding, but I couldn't tell. Couldn't tell Ricky. You couldn't tell Ricky that. Couldn't tell Ricky. You know, but Ricky, it's a little rough. And, you know, I don't know what you can do to help me out but you know school is starting in three weeks and uh mama's out here trying to figure it out like everybody else that's dealing with the trauma of this earthquake and ricky sent me uh ricky sent me 700 dollars

fedex never forget i could not believe This is before the Coke commercial, my brother. He sent me that money. Well, you lucky the FedEx guy wasn't trying to get some of that female money, too, because he got the cash up by that FedEx. That FedEx nigga would have called five piece and a biscuit. Because I knew the money was coming. I was outside waiting on that.

That was also my first FedEx delivery. He said FedEx. I didn also my first FedEx delivery. He said, FedEx? I didn't even know what it was. So he said, it's going to be at your door by blah, blah, blah on this day. Shit, I was outside. I think I missed school a couple days waiting on that FedEx man to pull up. So I got that package. It was $700, man.

And I went and bought all my clothes and school supplies. I even bought stuff for my brothers and700, man. And I went and bought all my clothes and school supplies. I even bought stuff for my brothers and sisters, man. I went grocery shopping, put food in the house. And, man, when I finally made some money, I literally gave Ricky, I gave him 10x that amount. Wow. And he was offended again. Like, come on, man. I didn't do that to try.

I said, Ricky, you're going to take this money, and you're going to understand what you did for me, and you're going to understand how grateful I am. You might not need it. You might feel a way about me trying to give it back. But I was very blessed. So every time I go to an Oscar party or pre-Grammy party or any awards show,

I see that man standing on that stage with that bass guitar directing that band. And we always have a moment where I go, because that man showed up for my dreams and showed up for my family in a real way after that major earthquake. Been hungry for some college football?

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What were your ambitions? What did Tyree want to do when he was 21, when he was 25, when he was 30? Live. That's it it's all over we young watts the Crips bloods gangsters police murder excessive force prostitution heroin heroin, crack. The whole list. That was my life. See, in the hood, what I want y'all to understand for you folks that don't know nothing about the hood, you ain't gotta be crippling in blood

and then get killed, my bro. You ain't gotta be out here selling dope, selling weed, selling whatever you selling, and you go and try and sell in the wrong neighborhood or in the wrong territory, and niggas come through and lay you out. No, sir. I had to walk through at least 12 hoods

to get from my house to where my school was. Going through black and Mexican gangs, Crips, Bloods. I'm just trying to go to school. I don't know if anybody want to take my shoes, take whatever it is I got on. I don't know if somebody just want to fuck me up, beat me up, just because it's a Wednesday. So ain't nobody thinking about the future. I wasn't no dreamer.

I think some of y'all niggas is running way too running gamut. I was a dreamer. I wasn't no dreamer. I was hoping I didn't get killed, bro. I was hoping that these crips and bloods didn't decide that today was my day to see my last birth date. That's what my life was. And Watts. So it wasn't no 21.

Wasn't no tomorrow was the goal. Because I'm playing basketball. I'll never forget one of my homies named Scott Watts, one of the most talented niggas, period, in basketball. Used to kill niggas at Real Rogers Park. Shout out to all my niggas at Watts. I'm being real right now. Sorry, it's Club Shea Shea.

My nigga Scott, man. Long before we knew about a Michael Jordan, man. Scott was out here from the half court. Scott ain't had a crip of blood, a dope, a marijuana, a gang bang. Scott, I don't even think Scott had a crip walk in him. Scott got killed, bro. So we playing basketball on a Wednesday, and now we washing cars and doing a fundraiser

trying to raise money for Scott. Scott ain't hurting nobody. Scott ain't bothering nobody. Why is Scott dead? That's where I come from. That's where I come from. That's where I'm from. This is all this movie star shit and everything you just mentioned on that resume.

When I tell you it's hard to listen, I'm grateful about my life. But when I tell you all of that still sounds foreign to me, it's because in the reality of my life, I feel like that's still fresh. So it's been kind of hard to completely embrace all that God has done and still doing because every time I get hungry, I'm reminded of where I'm from. Every time the credit card declined, if I'm just

randomly at a restaurant. Now, I'm doing alright, but sometimes your shit just declined because some shit just happened. You go to Chick-fil-A, you'd be like, yeah, yeah, go ahead, you know, put all this in the decline, and you're like, holy shit, you know, let me call the bank because I don't know what just happened.

They clear it all up, and then it goes through, and that reminder that broke is very real, is very here, starving and living on the edge and not understanding what might happen today. People are still in that right now. Yes, for sure. Right? It ain't got nothing to do with waking up every day and saying,

I am a bad person with ill will and bad intentions, but bad things still happen. And you go to church, you love Jesus. You ain't doing none of that stuff. Still can get shot and killed when you're living in the hood, bro. I got a two part question for you. Yes, sir. How did you handle fame as a kid and what advice would you give? Now that you've gone through what maybe some of these young kids are having the fame that they're starting to come into Say as a teenager, how did you handle it? And what advice would you give them? hmm Club Shay Shay I'm having a moment.

This brother right here. That nigga deep right there. You know what's wrong? He didn't even send me the questions for the interview. No pre-interview. He just going boom. Okay, so what I would say is, Ooh, thank you, Jesus. Give me the words. Cause somebody is listening and they're either, they're about to say with me,

God, they're about to get there. The breakthrough is about to happen for them. And there's other people that's experiencing the breakthrough right now, as we speak, this is what I would say. Thank you, Jesus. Your family has nothing to do with what God is doing and about to do you will be the first millionaire in your family how does your mama feel about that you would be the first one to graduate how does your mama feel about that you will be the first one to graduate. How does your mama feel about that? You will be the first or the second or the third in your life and your story to get into the NFL or the NBA or go to college and graduate from college. How do the people in and around your life feel about what God is doing for you individually? And I have to say to all of the people watching, not just the kids, but to everybody,

as far as my understanding of DNA, as far as my understanding of how this thing works when it comes to fingerprints, would you agree that your mama and daddy created Shannon? Would you agree that mommy and daddy made you? Now, would you also agree that mommy and daddy's fingerprints are very different than your fingerprints? Absolutely.

If you were, if mommy and daddy were to do their fingerprints right now, would the, mommy and daddy co-created Shannon. Yes. Did your fingerprint come out the same as mommy and daddy? No. Okay. There's a lot of power in recognizing your individuality.

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Your uncle was a crip. You ain't got to be a crip. Shut up. Your mama's a blood. Your daddy's a blood. You grew up in this. They selling dope, so I got to sell dope. They got the guns, So I got to get the gun. I got to dress the way they dress and I got to look the way I look. I'm sitting there with a whole. You see what I'm wearing? I'm an alpha male wearing a full on outfit. Okay. Head to toe that they wear in the Middle East. OK, Jesus never wore shoes. He wore sandals. You ain't never seen a photo of Jesus wearing a pair of pants in your life.

Recognize the power of individuality. And there's a lot of strength that you can find in recognizing the power of individuality. And you get away from this is what we all doing this is what we all wearing this is what we all thinking this is where we all going no the fuck we're not where i'm going i'm gonna get to a point where i'm gonna try and hold on to as many familiar faces as i can. Because familiar is comfortable. But you realize that where God is about to take you, you ain't going to be able to look to the left or right

and see nobody. Now, Shannon, I love you. You got a lot of white people out here behind these cameras. A lot of these people did not grow up in your neighborhood. Correct. They ain't look the way you look. No. So as God look the way you look. No. So as God continue to elevate you and take you to these other places and spaces, it's going to continue to become and be more uncomfortable and more unfamiliar because nothing about God is familiar.

We should go the rest of our life trying to figure out who is God? Who is this man? Why does God love me so much to have all of this in mind for me? And why do I feel so bad about embracing all that God is doing? So you have all of this in mind for me, but I want to take all the homies.

We grew up together. We fed each other. We this, we that. We protected each other. We this, we that. Now they're going to make me out to be disloyal. Now they're going to make me out to be like, oh, once you got on, you know what I'm saying, you turn your back on all your real niggas.

No, I didn't. I can't understand what God is doing and where I'm going, but something about oxygen gets a little thin. How you go up. You know, they say snakes can't survive certain altitudes. That snake, you cut that grass low in your life and the snakes will be revealed. See, some of y'all, y'all are keeping it so real,

the grass is high, loyal. There's an expiration date on loyalty. The grass is high. As soon as you cut that grass in your life, the snakes will reveal themselves. And as soon as God does this and start elevating you, snakes die, bro. And I'm as loyal as it gets. Most of the diggers who I cut off will never tell you why they got cut off because they still in the hood.

They playing victim. They're going to tell everybody, their mama, their version of the story. I got people around me that I've been rocked. Like one of my homies in here right now, Kenyatta, that brother right there, that's my best friend since eight years old. When I was hungry, broke, fucked up, my mama was drunk out of her mind. May God rest her soul. Drunk out of her mind. Every level of dysfunction was in my house. Mental, emotional, physical, psychological abuse. Drunk.

That's a drunk drunk. So I love you, but I don't even want to sit next to this bottle no more. That's for you over there, sir. Alcohol has fucked my life up. That's why I drink apple juice. I ain't never had a drink in my life. I don't smoke. I don't drink.

Nothing about what I do every day is connected to anything that I grew up in and around. And that doesn't mean that I'm bigger and better. That's the other thing. So soon as you recognize the power in your individuality, you feel bad that you're different, but nothing, God will never do anything different in your life. Trying to say the same as everything that you grew up in and around your family has nothing to do with what God is about to do for your career. So that's some long advice for the 16 year old. But I wanted to get that over to the to the old heads, too. You know what I'm saying? Like you ain't too old to get that breakthrough. You said something very interesting. You said your parents, your family has nothing to do with what God has had has planned for you.

Do you believe that you grew up in a situation? I didn't quite say that, but go ahead. It has nothing to do with what God has had has planned for you. Do you believe that you grew up in a situation? I didn't quite say that, but go ahead. But you OK, different. You said mom, dad, different. They created Shannon. Yeah. Fingerprints. But my fingerprint is nothing like theirs. Yes, I am. I'm speaking to. I know. I know. You know, I'm speaking to the power of individuality.

And I'm saying, like, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my mother and father co-creating me. But my mind, my heart, the empathy. I'm an alpha empath. Big, big, big energy and personality. But I feel and care for everything. So you say something, you do something, you go through something. If you're in a coma, likely when you open your eyes, it's going to be me standing over you. So I'm saying something about me and where I'm from and the environment that I grew up in created me and had me early on to recognize the power of my own individuality. And I stepped into that and I was very uncomfortable because why do niggas stay in the hood?

Because you don't want nobody to think you changed. Well, motherfucker, I did change. And you wanted people to know that you changed. I changed, but I didn't change with any negativity on it. I changed because God is in the changing business. God don't keep nobody the same. Right. That's self-sabotage, self-defeat. You are wearing that, doing that, thinking that your net worth is that you live in that you drive that your hair look like that. Your baby mama is that because you have literally became a carbon copy of everything you knew and anything

that's beyond the scope of what you grew up believing thinking or that you were familiar with makes you and everybody else uncomfortable you so that's what i was saying okay you also said that you love you like to carry people and sometimes things get so heavy that we can no longer carry them anymore How difficult was it for you people that you know that you grew up? Like you said you grew up around you saw these people and they became too hairy for heavy for Tyrese to carry You have to set them down Yeah, that is a version Loyalty has an expiration date

Like Hey, man, I'm loyal You're gonna die if you hold on to everybody that you showed up with like that you showed up with. Like, we're not talking about death specifically, that too. Everything that God is about to do and he has in mind for you, trying to hold on to everything and everybody

that's connected to your family, your friends, your environment, it's going to die. So how does that make you feel and so when i also say loyalty has an expiration date that means agents managers lawyers people in business we was good for the first seven years of us brainstorming and connecting about the vision. Now, every time I talk to you about some shit I see and I want to do and where I want to go, we ain't really on the same page about where we're going. So I don't wish any harm on anybody. You see what I'm saying?

Yeah, I do. Now, a lot of us, we deal with the pressure of the hood. All of my, let me make sure I'm being clear here. All of my real niggas I grew up with from day dot, there was nobody in the world more happy for me than them.

All the niggas running around talking about, you know, you got history and then you got his story. Motherfucker, I didn't know you right okay let me take my hat off for a sec you run around showing niggas that picture with your little roll-up camera your little flip phone that is a fucking lie we did not grow up together i don't know you i've never heard of you and if you send one

more person to walk up to me like hey you know a little nook nook no no sir i don't know a nook or a nook get your goofy ass up in front of my man he told me that y'all and y'all used to be so you got to sit through seven minutes of that shit while you pumping gas because little knock knock has ran through the hood for the last 25 years convincing niggas that y'all grew up together all my real niggas that i grew up with for real for real no jealousy no envy and if i ever have a problem they say look here bro we love you we know what you are we know we told you off top that you're different they didn't let here's the thing gang banging it's cool they didn't let me bang they didn't let me sell none they didn't let me get

in it i had a big homie named dirt bike f. I was just on the phone with him three days ago. He coming to my movie premiere for 1992 with his wife. They've been together for 40 years. Where would I be without the big homie Dirt Bike Fred? Hey Reese, come here, bro. What's going on? Bend over. He would take his Timberland boot. He ain't just do it to me. Anybody who's trying to take his Timberland boot. He ain't just do it to me. Anybody who's trying to get into that life and he knew you ain't cut from that cloth, he'll literally say bend over

and not with the tippy toe because I wouldn't be able to have kids if he gave a nigga the boot with the front. So he would kick a nigga from the side. Bah! Get your ass out of here. Put that weed down, nigga. Put that drink down.

Put anything you're doing to big homies. And that's why all these young niggas out here lost now. They big homies don't understand their role. True. That's a real problem. You signing up more Crips than you all college students. That's the fucking problem. How many more young niggas you going to sign up and teach them the game?

Shit. The recruiting. Bloods and Crip recruiting is heavy. Let's set them up for success, man. Use that same OG status to set us up. Because my big homie set me up for success. He said, if you thinking about doing this, bend your ass off.

Boo! They could kick my ass into a billion dollars in the box office. Tyrese, you spoke a little bit about your mom. You said your mom was, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you said she was a drunk. Alcoholic. Alcoholic.

Sadly, yes. And your father, you haven't spoken about him. What was the relationship with your parents? What was your relationship like with your parents? Well, my mother and father from St. Louis. Okay. I'm the last child of four. The baby boy for real.

All three of my brothers and sisters were conceived and born in St. Louis. My mother and my father got pregnant with me. I'm child number four. My father says we moving to L.A. You know, he do a little singing. He can hit a note. That's where you got it from.

He hit a note or two. He been telling niggas he gonna get a record deal for the last 65 years. You gonna sit your old ass down. Man, don't kill that man, Dre. Let him live. I'm calling it by Tyrese.

Hey, man, I love you, Pop. I love you. You know, look, if that deal is coming, that motherfucker been stuck in the iCloud for 68 years. But, yeah, my musical talents come from my pops. And he sang. He played the piano. He's a music guy. But, yeah, my musical my musical talents come from my pops. And he's saying he played the piano. He's he's a music guy and he's in St. Louis right now. So, yeah, man, he basically told my mom's with all three of their kids at the time. We getting on the Greyhound bus and we going to L.A.

So, you know, my mom was pregnant with me on the Greyhound, went to LA and we ended up in Watts. And that's where she, that's where I was born. Martin Luther King Hospital, Capricorn, December 30th, 78. And, uh, you know, right before my mom passed fast forward, Right before my mom passed, fast forward, she passed two years ago. And I'll never forget, probably like five years before she passed, we had one of them mommy son moments, right? And she said, my mama was in a coma three different times. And the third time she was in a coma is when she finally passed because of pneumonia and covid and uh when she woke up out of her second coma i just found myself becoming more intentional about spending time with her because my childhood was a fucking nightmare um and i think everybody know that um because i've been very vocal and outspoken about it. So she said to me, when I gave birth to you, I knew you were special.

And I said, what does that mean? She never told me this in her life. My mama was not the best support system. She didn't say you can sing your ass off and you're going to be something. If anything, shut up. Big teeth nigga, bring all, bring it loud as hell and how to bring that down so there was no family love and support my mama didn't come to my talent shows and wasn't on the front row chair and she wasn't a soccer mom at all the basketball games so i'm i got this gift and this talent but when it comes to the validation

in my house it was not there for me to understand I got something. So I'll never forget. She said probably five years before she was born. She said, you know, I knew you were special when you were born. And she said, I got my tubes tied after you because I knew that you were special. And I'm crying as shit. And I'm like, wow, you know, but I'm like, mama, tell me more. Cause she never said anything like this. And then she says, she says, you know, you got,

you got movies in over 200 countries and you got billions and billions you have literally changed our family's life we have seen been places and countries and cities and met celebrities and entertainers we didn't been some of the best cause and we didn't been around things that nobody in our entire bloodline has ever seen, heard, or experienced. And you're gonna live and die and not be able to meet every fan of my baby boy named Tyrese.

Over 200 languages my films come out and translated into. And then she just walked off. That was what I would walk off. Just just just left me there. You know, we didn't talk much. But if you give your mama or your daddy a chance that you might dislike, if you give them a chance to talk, they can they can drop drop a couple on you. How did that make you feel? She's saying this and you say this is five years before she passed. Yeah. Did a part of you wish like, damn, mom, if you felt like this, why didn't you tell me when I was five?

Why don't you tell me this when I was 10, 15, 20? Why are you just telling me do you think she realized at that moment that obviously she's you know you'd say she this was her second time being on a coma and she wakes up and she tells you this do you think she all of a sudden she started her mortality and she felt she needed to get that off her chest she's like i need to let him know what i actually think about him. No, I don't. I don't I don't I don't remember my mother ever having that type of a time clock in her head. OK, it was actually. And I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this when it comes to our parents or grandparents. There was a particular arrogance about I ain't going nowhere. There's a particular arrogance about I ain't going nowhere.

Right. So you got Jesus. Yeah. And some people's relationship with Jesus is abusive. I can drink what I want, do what I want, go about my life in any way I want. Rather, I take my medicine for my blood pressures up or I do this or I do that. I got Jesus by my side right that's a tumor you have to go visit the doctor to get that taken care of now God is an all-knowing God he's gonna get you through a lot but we can't get arrogant with the relationship with Jesus Jesus is gonna get you through and Jesus has already decided before he was born when the first breath happens and when the last breath is going to happen. But we have a responsibility to do the best we can with this one temple that we were given. And so my mama was one of those.

Like, I ain't going nowhere. Right. And I ain't got to stop drinking or go about eating healthy and working out and doing anything. Which is why, you know, I'm still trying to shake that devil. You know, I praise God that I don't drink and I don't smoke and I don't do all the things that I don't do that I mentioned. But, yeah, shit, I just finished eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich with double cheese. OK, my mama ate everything in sight i was that guy coming home house smelled like the bottom of the earth with them goddamn chitlins burning in there you ain't enough red rooster hot sauce in the world that can make me

like these fucking smelly ass pork chitlins we eating pig guts what is this you know everything imaginable right and to this day man i'm trying to get my my food intake together you know but it's it's it's it's it's that thing man we don't take care of ourselves we don't really respect what might happen if we don't properly visit the doctor, get your prostate, and do all the things that we're supposed to do. You got a lump in your chest, and you think you're going to just rub it out? That's a lump. You can't put no goddamn Vaseline or baby oil on that. You can't give niggas no cleavage and think that's going to get rid of breast cancer. Put some baby oil on your chest.

Did that get rid of the cancer? No. That's what, that's, that's what. So my mama did not have that type of urgency. I think something is about to happen. So let me go on and drop this on my son. No, sir. That didn't happen.

What about your father? You know, as much as I knew about him, he's still with us, God bless him, but I didn't know him. He wasn't, he was, so how, when you guys, okay, you get on the Greyhound bus, your mom is pregnant with you. She's married to my father. Married to your father. Yes. So did they separate shortly after you got there?

Was he in the house? No, no, no. I knew my father up till I was about seven years old. You know, seven. Maybe six, maybe five. But at least it was early. And I knew him.

I knew of him. And there was a reoccurring visitation but not really okay so I was that kid looking at other kids at the park like damn I wish I had my daddy here pushing me on the swing and I wish my daddy would show up to the school and curse the teacher out when when they you know disrespected me or treat me wrong in the classroom. You know, all the stuff that you want from a dad. You know, I think it's confusing. We all love us a mama. We love us a mama.

Most of us grew up in a single parent household. And mama, mama did it all. She was daddy, mama, uncle, grandfather. She was the crypt, the blood, the OG. She was everything. But listen, man, you cut off the head, the blood, the OG. She was everything. But listen, man, you cut off the head, the rest of the body will follow. It's no mistake that we got four million black men in jail right now. No mistake. So all these women out here who did not plan on being the mother and the father, that's just what it is. It ain't got nothing to do with crippling

blood. It's just a lot of black men that just ain't around they're dead gone or locked up and so you got women out here having to figure out like how do i tap into more of my masculine energy when i'm a woman i'm the mama i gotta be nurturing caring i gotta do all the things that a mama do, but then I gotta become a boy. I gotta wear the pants. We supposed to wear the pants, even though I'm sitting here with a Islam outfit on and... Not quite pants. You mother fucker. Not quite pants. Anyway, shit, but truth be told, goddammit,

my luggage got lost. You know, man, all the shit that my publicist sent me to wear for my press run. I live in the ATL. I was like, look here, man, all that shit, look. That shit lost, so I'm going to put this together because I ain't canceling, Shannon. I'm going to shit. I sure appreciate that. This was the only thing in my closet that I

didn't have to iron, and I was like, I'm going to put this together. Now, if anybody can smell me, I got dressed so fast I forgot to put deodorant on. So I do apologize. Keep your distance. Let's keep these hugs short and brief because it's cracking on the hill. I smell myself. You mentioned you were born in 1978, graduated in 1996.

But there was a big event that happened in 92, the riots. Yeah. You were 14, probably 14 at that point in time. And it's smack dab in where you grew up at, Watts, South Central LA. What do you remember about that situation and how did it shape the way Tyrese looks at the world? I was in Watts. I was in the riots. I was scared.

But everything about that boilerplate that we feel and live in every single day that I've been mentioning throughout this interview. It went up 50 notches because, see, when you're born in Watts in the year 1965, my city was only known for the Watts riots. And everything, you know, you grow up in the hood. No matter how young or old you get, everybody's talking about if you're in Minneapolis, you're going to be talking about George Floyd. You can move Minneapolis right now. That's going to be the energy of Minneapolis forever.

You go to Memphis, Tennessee, you're going to feel the energy of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King. I was born into the rebellion. I was born into strife, not just gang affiliation. I'm talking about the 1965 riots where they had to send Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. two watts to try and get, use this black man to influence black and brown culture to calm down because we was burning that motherfucker down. and brown culture to calm down because we was burning that motherfucker down and so now i'm living and reliving what i've been hearing about my whole life from 1965 before i was born 78 all the way up until 92 all we was known for was the riots i didn't get on career-wise until 98 mm-hmm so 92 April 29th it was a bad day didn't it was five six weeks before we seen the sunshine clear sky smoke everywhere it

was ashes in every neighborhood your streets your houses ashes because what goes up comes down when they come to burn burning shit and looting and rioting and you know i got me some shit now man you tyree you always looking for to come up on the on the sneak tip i got me some shit shannon got me a couple pieces i was scared getting it but i got it you mentioned obviously the date is ingrained because you remember april 29th you wake up that day did you expect it to pop off like it did could you tell it was starting to brood like oh my goodness this somebody this this this thing is about to explode here did you know that could you sense that yeah yeah yeah yeah we we knew um but we also knew that uh see when you from the hood all all of the non-hood niggas was was was was shocked none of us was shocked see y'all y'all look at

y'all look at all of the trauma of police brutality murder force, planting drugs and guns and, you know, all of that over-the-top abuse. In 92, there was no body cam, sir. There was no cameras on the cars of police. Dash cams. There was no dash cam. There was no Google Maps. This was before MySpace, blackplanet.com.

This was before the Internet. blackplanet.com. This is before the internet. This was before anybody could have any sense of what actually happened because you can pull out your actual camera phone and film it. Some of us have been grown for so long, we forgot the brick phone in the hood with the cord attached with the first cell phone we forgot the beeper typing out one letter at a time that says i love you or fuck you we forgot about the beep beep beep beep beep beep beep We forgot about that. So somebody rolled out of bed and seeing something going on, grabbed a big-ass camcorder, put it on their shoulder. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.

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And film the whole thing. Then that thing went crazy. Set it off. That thing went crazy on the news because there was no Instagram. Because that was the first time that we could actually, that was really the first time you could see it because for the longest time. No, sir. Go ahead.

It wasn't the first time I could see it. I see it every day. You saw it. But the world. The world seen what we see every day. And that's not what they put in the report though, Tyrese. What they said versus what we were later able to see they're like hold on wait a minute y'all didn't mention any of this that's not new

either that's what I'm saying this this this hood shit well how you saying tell me something I don't know about how they that didn't happen. That police report. What the fuck is that? That's why when black people get out of jail 30 years later and they try and give a nigga half a million dollars, like a half a million dollars going to fix 30 years of me living in that hellhole. Because you you lied on the police report. Right. You documented you made sure that you looked right. In the light of the judge that's going to make a judgment in front of the jury, you planted that you did that.

And so nobody who lives in the hood is shocked about anything that we're seeing play out. anything that we're seeing play out. And the arrogance of it all is that you would assume, black man, that they gonna clean this shit up now that there's so many people filming everything. You can't do nothing without being filmed. Nothing. You slap the shit out

of somebody at the front door, they got the ring camera. Your slap is captured. Yes. You steal a package, Amazon, thinking that you could just creep your goofy ass in the yard. Everybody going to see you. Yep.

You can't do nothing without it being filmed. And they still fucking us up. Now imagine how much of an open season it was and has been since 92 and prior to. Come on. Who took a picture of that black man hanging up in that tree? Damn, that's fucked up. What if nobody took that picture?

Nothing would be fucked up. Your heart, your mind, your spirit is only affected by the things you see, by the things you hear, the things that you're exposed to. I'm going to give you all a word. Here's your word of the day, boys and girls. Cointelpro.

Let's move on. Go ahead. Your movie, 1992, it takes place during the L.A. riots. Why do you feel it was important to do this movie? It was important because I'm from there. It was important because I lived that and experienced that. It was important because the diversity that's in this film made me say yes. I ain't make no money from this movie.

What they paid me, I'm making per diem. The statement was much bigger than the press release, the opportunity, or the payment. That's where I'm from. This is a story that happened, that I lived, that I experienced. Even Snoop Dogg told me he was looting and riding.

This is some shit that when you born and raised in South Central LA, we know this. It was real. The younger generation, just like I from 65, you hear the stories about 92 because you were 2000 baby right so i experienced that same thing about something dark and fucked up and traumatic that happened

prior to me being born but i had to do this movie because we deserve for our stories to be told. Now, this might be a little confusing to you, big homie, but I'm going to give it to you. Okay, give it. Nobody in Hollywood wanted to make this movie. No streaming platform, no movie studio. Nobody wanted to make this movie. So they ended up securing the money to make this movie from a billionaire from overseas.

We shot the movie in Bulgaria. All the warehouses had to do it at a budget. And then we came and shot the rest of the movie in Watts, in South Central L.A. and off of Crenshaw. And then after we made the movie, nobody wanted to buy the movie after it was made. They ended up selling the movie at a film festival.

And that's when Lionsgate picked it up. Then they said the disrespect just kept going. This is long before I was involved by the way right so they couldn't get the movie made without me being attached or prior to me being attacked we got ray leota a legend who has already worked with our current director named ariel roman who is an israeli from israel so when i'm speaking to diversity i I'm talking about find another Israeli who directed a South Central L.A. film. So Ray Liotta, Ariel Roman, Scott Eastwood, Dylan, who's my brother.

He was just in the Christopher Nolan film like this is a heist movie. This is not a movie about black people trying to get some free shit. Right. So the heist element made me say yes. The South Central LA made me say yes. And everything about the father son dynamic in the movie made me say yes. Because Ray Liotta is the father to Scott Eastwood, and they toxic and dysfunctional as a motherfucker

throughout the movie. I'm dysfunctional and toxic with my son in the movie. And so everything about those other elements is what made me say yes. How much influence did you have? Because do you believe that in order to, and people are going to like, no, that's not true.

Do you feel that you need to have experience write the riots in 92 in order to fully tell and explain the riots of 92? No. Which is why we have a British actor who played Dr. Martin Luther King and Selma You ain't got to be born and raised in Atlanta

To do a movie about an Atlanta topic. I'm an actor Mm-hmm. So if I don't know anything about this life this world this situation about this life this world this situation uh i mean most niggas is out here looking goofy as hell 50 years old wearing marvel comic outfits you don't even wear that shit at home for your son's birthday but you got your goofy ass in that damn movie standing there with your fake chest muscles and your 12 abs you ain't got them abs underneath that goddamn costume. But we as actors, we have the blessing and the gift, and that's no disrespect for Marvel

because I definitely want y'all niggas to keep helping me out. Love Marvel. Which eye do I wink on? Anyway, so yeah, we as actors, we get to... Oh, and I love it. I love it. Thank you, Jesus.

We get to become. Leave it at that. We get to become. You mentioned Snoop Dogg. And that's what we love about Denzel. That's what we love about Viola Davis. That's what we love about Ruby Dee and Sidney Poitier. You know this is what we love about the giants of our world. We've seen them re- Harry Belafonte, we've seen them reinvent themselves over and over and over again then the John

singletons got a spot then the Spike Lee's got a spot that helps set up the Ava DuVernay's and the Antoine Fuqua's and the F Gary Gray's we did that we become Denzel became Malcolm X and killed it yeah I'm talking about Jesus I became an actor which Denzel Washington if you see this movie I don't feel like I've made it and I'm not successful until I do a movie with you. Sir, Denzel Washington, I don't feel successful and I don't feel like I've made it as an actor until I do a movie with you

because you are the reason I decided to become an actor. It wasn't John Singleton. He tried to talk me in it for seven years. He tried to put me in the movie Shaft, told him no. He wrote the movie Baby Boy for Tupac, not for me. But after I seen Denzel Washington's performance in the movie The Hurricane, I was in my living room with my dusty ass VCR. And I was reenacting all of the scenes from that movie in my living room.

And that's when I knew I was ready to become an actor. You mentioned Snoop Dogg executive produced this movie in 1992 and I don't think anybody has had the guy he can't go anywhere. And I can honestly say this, I've known Snoop over 30 years and I've been around a lot of people.

I've never heard anybody say anything bad about Snoop but a guy that's been able to change the narrative about himself, there's not a room that Snoop guy that's been able to to change the narrative about himself. There's not a room that Snoop can go walk. I mean, from Martha Stewart to like he's on the Olympics and the coverage is going crazy because everybody loves Snoop. What's some of the advice that Snoop is giving you? Like the homie, he knows. I mean, what he went through was on trial and to come out of that on the other side with flying colors, someone lost their life. Sorry about that. But Snoop, the the metamorphosis that he's gone through.

When you sit down and talk to him from a business perspective. What's up? What does Snoop talk to Tyrese about? business perspective. What does Snoop talk to Tyrese about? Snoop is a genius. Snoop is... Can I ask you a question? Sure. Who's a bigger rapper globally?

The most famous of the two. Jay-Z or Snoop Dogg, in your opinion? Globally? Around the world. Like, if Jay-Z and Snoop dogg was in a mall in moscow who would shut the mall down like i'm gonna have to go snoop honestly okay biggest rapper in the world and we're not talking about grammys because he ain't won one yet biggest fucking superstar in the world. That's my big homie. Long Beach, West Coast, I wish a motherfucker would. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, big homie, man. Big homie Snoop Dogg, man. Biggest in the game, man. Shit, Snoop might be announcing he a billionaire soon. I wouldn't be surprised. He shouldn't be. The nigga owns 732 businesses. Fuck you mean?

Shouldn't be. The nigga owns 732 businesses. Fuck you mean? That motherfucker wake up and his emails and notifications hit different, my brother. He just hosted the Olympics and came home with 16 million new followers. 16 of them. He did that in two weeks. Two. Snoop Dogg being on board with this 1992 movie changed everything about listen man we did a hundred million trailer views my bro wow okay this is straight to DVD straight to streaming

so they thought 1992 my bro February that movie was supposed to drop on the world I asked them can y'all push this thing back? Can you give me a shot? Can you give me an opportunity at trying to create some energy around this film so we can get it to the theater, so we can get some more press and energy and get the word out?

I brought Snoop on board as a producer. We posted that trailer. It broke the internet and did over 100 million views. We go from no premiere no soundtrack no press junket am i on club shea shea right now yeah absolutely this club shea shea yeah i do this is club motherfucking shea shea we ain't doing club shea shea because shea shea wanted to interview me we doing club Shea Shea because of 1992. There was no budget to do a press junket.

Not one single interview was connected to this movie. See, I am walking, leave, I am, I am, let me get my words right because this is all for God. I am the walking, living, breathing manifestation of favor. I am the walking, living, breathing manifestation of favor. Because you listen, I can't explain. What God is to me. Wait in line. I said 30 seconds approaching 30 years. You know how many commercials have been famous?

Even the nigga with the deodorant commercial. OK okay where's his 10 billion in the box office where's his record deal where's his acting career if we're winning the popularity contest doing commercials then why it ain't happening for everybody don't disrespect my hustle motherfuckers i'm grinding and hustling. I'm getting that. I'm turning over all the rocks. This is not just lazy with favor. This is, oh my God, now that God then gave

me this, I'm going to have to figure out what the pivots are. I'm not a dreamer. Okay? I'm not worried about next week i got plans i got visions i dream with my eyes open what's that did you come up with the idea to open up an alcohol company before or did you see somebody else do it and then you said man as soon as i can do it out you got your own name you got your it, you got your own name.

You got your own taste. You got your own look of your bottle. But are you the first black man to release a brown liquor? No. OK, so you seen somebody else do it. And so you dream with your eyes open and you did whatever it takes to hustle your way into that. Right. And then you got that.

That's why I sit on the table. And that's why this motherfucker apple juice is sitting there, too So we are technically experiencing Every single day visions and ideas are physical You mean if someone had kept this chair that we're sitting on right now this ugly ass just chairs ugly And I'm mad as hell that you didn't invite me to the real club Shay Shay with the leather chairs and all that like am I what am I some am I less than Cat Williams that's uh that's a LA that's

LA I came to you they say Tyrese would do he want to sit on the club Shea Shea but you got to come to Atlanta so I came out here just to see you that's bullshit where you located at I'm in LA I'm in LA they so you telling me them leather couches that cat williams sat on and all of your other stars is in la in la and we over here sitting on this in atlanta your hometown you know your new home now okay well the point i was making was, is that ideas are physical. And if you have visions and ideas and it's so clear and it's so specific and you decide to rob the world of getting that idea, it ain't going to be sitting on the table. Right. And if these chairs that we're sitting on, even though I don't like them compared to the club, shea, she chairs that shit i was looking for that i i put an outfit on together i was like shit nigga hey this motherfucking black

outfit right here with that brown couch shit this shit gonna have a vibe nigga i'm a shit you think i'm about to wear brown sit on the brown couch no sir but this chair right here that we sitting on if they had kept this vision and this idea in their minds we'd fall on the floor did you design them glasses you wear no did you design the t-shirt you got no did you design the necklace you wear no how about that watch no how about the card the cards yeah somebody printed those out right yeah so if they didn't have a print machine. That's my silhouette. That's your logo and all that. Now, you should put, wait, let me see that again. Can we get some lotion in here for the show?

Bag it up. Your motherfucking logo, Ashy. Get it? I'm just playing. He looking at it like. That shit look a little ashy, man. Okay. Yeah, he just got a shower. He just got a shower. the point is uh we should go the rest of our life getting that book out writing that script moving on those visions and ideas implementing implementing all that God has bounced. What's keeping you up at night? And if you think you're going to be able to talk to your friends, your broke ass family, friends, homies.

And they're going to share in that same joy and energy that you have about what you see and what you want and what you envision for your life. You're going to be fucked up for the rest of your life. Just like them Wow Sometimes you got to bless somebody from saying Y'all niggas don't see what I see with what God is doing and about to do but I'm gonna show you one day Because if I talk to you about my visions and my dreams you're gonna laugh at me You're gonna try and talk me out of it And if you talk me out of it, then I can't come back to that same

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