Clutterbug - Real-Life Hacks and Tips to Declutter, Organize and Clean your Home Fast - The Viral Swedish Organizing Trend Nobody Knows About (5 Minute Method) | Clutterbug Podcast #332

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

Struggling to keep your home organized? Learn the Swedish secret to a clutter-free, beautiful home: move just 5 things a day. Sound too easy? I thought so too. In this episode, I'm breaking down the viral "5 things Swedes move daily” post, maybe you’ve seen it on your feeds? But I'm revealing what ACTUALLY works. Plus how you can use this simple method to declutter, beautify, and transform your space without overwhelm. I fell down a rabbit hole after seeing a sketchy Instagram ad promising life-changing Swedish organizing secrets (spoiler: it was a scam). But the research led me to something real: the Swedish concepts of lagom, döstädning, and the power of micro-tasks. I'm combining these with my "Power of Pretty" philosophy to show you how moving just 5 things a day can help you declutter, redesign, and fall in love with your home again. I'm sharing real examples from my own home (hello, dirty soda bar!) and from recent client makeovers, plus answering your questions about action files, downsizing, and organizing for different Clutterbug styles.Ready to stop overwhelming yourself and start making real progress? Let’s get moving, Clutterbugs! Want to get organized? Learn 6-Step The Clutterbug Method: https://clutterbug.thinkific.com/courses/Clutterbug-Method You can find more Clutterbug content here: Main YouTube Channel: @Clutterbug Website: http://www.clutterbug.me TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clutterbug_me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clutterbug_me/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Clutterbug.Me/ #clutterbug #podcast #Decluttering #Organizing #Cleaning #Home #LifeHacks #HomeHacks #OrganizedHome #CleanTok #DeclutterWithMe #SmallSpaces #HomeOrganization #CleaningMotivation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The other day, I was just scrolling Instagram and TikTok probably to avoid things I should have been doing. But that's not the point. I came across this ad that was Why Swedes Move Five Things Daily. And I was super intrigued. And then like the subtitle of that was basically I was drowning and messy and my life was chaotic. And then I started just this simple rhythm and I moved five things. And my entire life changed. And I was like, I got to find out what these five things are. So I clicked the ad, which then took me to like a checkout page, you know, where you got to pay $19.99 a month to find this life-changing thing, except it's always a scam and they continue to bill your credit card. I had the same problem with this live-in, you know, you're fed all these

apps like, this is going to change your life. And it's always a big, fat scam. So I closed the tab. I moved on, but I couldn't stop thinking about it. What are these five things? Is this actually a real thing? If you're intrigued, too, let's dig deep and find out what's really going on. But first things first, before we jump into the podcast, you are not allowed to just listen or watch. This podcast is for taking and making action. We are like doing things together so that at the end, not only have you learned something new, but you are so freaking proud of yourself because you're amazing and you got something done. Specifically today, you know, it would be really fun. What if we focused on making one spot in your home

just a little bit nicer for you? Think of a spot in your home that maybe already feels pretty cozy or that you actually love spending time in and then what can you do to just give yourself an even bigger gift? Maybe it's your bedroom. Can you make your bed and then straighten a little corner? Can you bring out your favorite books you want to read and create a little stack? I recently in my kitchen took out that big old espresso maker I rarely use, except in the winter, took out all my tea, and instead I made myself a dirty soda bar. I already had some syrups for coffee, but I put them out on the counter, and it feels like no big deal.

But every time I walk into the kitchen, I'm excited to make another nasty pop. Okay, I'm putting like flavored syrup in it, sometimes creamer, and then like Coca-Cola or Sprite. It's just, it's a potion up in here. I'm a witch or something. Dirty soda is basically when you take pop and you just add a bunch of stuff to it. I don't know. It's a TikTok thing, and I've been watching it and I fell down to a rabbit hole. But, like, I like, yeah, coffee flavors and coffee creamer in soda.

sounds disgusting. Believe it or not, it's awesome. Sometimes it's disgusting, but most of the time, it's awesome. And it's also just, it's fun. It's a different way to treat yourself and I'm having the best time. And also, it looks great on my counter, things I already had just doing a little rearrange to make things more fun. So this is what I want you to think about today. It could be straightening an area. It could be shopping your house and finding some plants and doing some rearranging. It could just be, I don't know, like a good old-fashioned clean, but how can you take a space that you already like and just make it 5% better? That's the goal today. We always to clutter and we always do the, let's play today. Remember when you were a kid and we would just

rearrange all our furniture in our bedroom instead of cleaning it? That's the energy I want you to bring to today's podcast. So what did I discover when I was doing recent? on these magical five things that the Swedes move every day. What I found was it's probably a giant load of BS, just some scam to get you to click and buy something. But there are some things in the Swedish culture that are like so helpful and fascinating. And if we combine those along with some of the other practices I've learned and my power of pretty, something amazing can happen. I want to talk about today is what the Swedes actually do in their home, what practices they have to make their home feel calm and beautiful. And even though that ad that I saw was probably

lying, it did tap into something real. That's what we're going to talk about today. I'm going to share something transformational with you that can help you today give you the home that you're craving. And spoiler alert, this is not going to cost you $1999 a month. You don't don't have to download an app, all you have to do is listen to this podcast and take action. The first thing I want to talk about is Legom. This is a Swedish word that means not too much, not too little, like just enough. It's like the Goldilocks word. And the way that they incorporate this into their home is not every space is stuffed full, but nothing's really empty either, right? This isn't about minimalism. This is about finding

that sweet spot where everything is just like just enough. Let calm. Am I saying it right? And I think, listen, is this why they're so happy in Sweden? I don't know, but it could be. I think sometimes we try too hard and it's one extreme or the other. Like we have to have nothing except one t-shirt or we have every t-shirt we've ever owned. This is that nice middle ground. It is the opposite of more is more and keeping things just in case. But it's also kind of the opposite of less is more and decluttering just for the sake of decluttering. The other word is do statening. I don't know if I'm butchering that or not, but I think I nailed it. Basically, that word is the word for Swedish death cleaning. And we've talked a little bit about this in the past. It may be a concept you are

familiar with. But the general idea is that we are clearing out the things in our home as a gift to our loved ones after we pass so that they're not burdened with all our worldly possessions. And they are not in charge of then deciding what they want to keep and let go of and what was important because they're grieving and they're mourning. And they don't want the last, you don't want the last memory of you for your loved ones to be the amount of work they have to do clearing out your stuff. So you, when your Swedish death cleaning, you are removing all the unnecessary and things that aren't true treasures that you want to pass on from your home to make your transition and your loved ones transition easier. So that is the second thing. Again,

Lagom is the first thing that the Swedish people do. And then that word that already has left my mind, that's basically the word for Swedish death cleaning. That is the second thing. And the third thing is the Lecombe Microtasking Method. And what this means is the Swedes will put away five things a day as part of their daily routine, which is probably where that ad got this idea from. Most of us do fail at decluttering and organizing and managing our home just because we're trying to take on too much or the expectation of what we're supposed to get done is so huge that it paralyzes. us from doing anything at all. We're either burnt out and exhausted from trying to do everything well, or we're just standing on the sidelines, hoping we get energy tomorrow. And that's why this five

things is so magical, because it makes it doable. It makes it easy. It breaks something big down to something so simple that there's no excuse to just not do it. This approach is sustainable. It's manageable. It's doable. It actually feels so ridiculously easy. And that's the whole point. We need to make things feel ridiculously easy to get us to do them consistently. It's consistency that builds momentum. It's consistency that's the real hero here. But we don't have to have David Goggins type self-discipline. This isn't about busting your butt every single day. You're not getting up at 5 a.m. and going for you. for a run and then cleaning your whole house. That's crazy. But somehow that's our expectation. But what if we change that? What if we kick all of those thoughts we used to have about the right way to do anything in our home? And instead, we just do five things. We just move five things a day. I'm going to just, okay, if you've been a follower of mine for a while, you know how obsessed I was with the concept of decluttering five things a day and only five things a day for five minutes.

I put together a free 30-day boot camp where every day we just found five things to remove from your home forever. And it was wildly successful. Hundreds of thousands of people were like, this is changing my life. But here's the thing. Once you're done decluttering, we're not done. We're moving into designing our home and adjusting the flow. Oh, and maybe organization, and we can still use this five things approach. But instead of decluttering five things, we're moving five things. Because so often we become blind to not only the stuff in our home, but how we function in our home. And we need to see it to know if it works or not.

I do this all the time in my home. I will rearrange things to see if it solves a problem or makes things. makes my life a little bit easier, saves a little bit of time. And if it's just five small things a day, we can kind of experiment with. Does this not sound fun? Are you guys not excited? This could be as simple as moving all your flip-flops to the back door so you no longer have to run in and out barefoot or go get your shoes and bring them to the back door. It can be as simple as moving your coffee syrups to your counter just so that you have a little dirty, soda bar. I don't know what it's going to look like in your home, but that's the whole point. How fun

is this to try a little bit of moving and shifting to see if it improves things, not only the function, but maybe the way your home looks too. So the five things isn't just about removing things. This isn't about just decluttering five things. This is about creating new spaces or refining the spaces we already have just by moving around five things a day. I discovered the power of pretty years ago. I was on my decluttering journey. I was trying to organize. And I started getting really burnt out because even though my house was easier to manage, I just was like I still didn't love the space. You know, it still felt like a chore, I guess. I still had to force myself to do it until one day I just decided I was going to make my bedroom look a little bit nicer.

I got a new bed spread. I fluff the pillows. I moved some plants around. And I was like, I'd walk into this space and have this like, ah, you know? And then every day I wanted to clean my bedroom. That is the power. Like when you find a space visually appealing, when you, when you genuinely love the way it looks and feels, you don't have to force yourself to keep it clean and tidy, you want to, you are motivated. That's the power of pretty. And that's where we can get to without it feeling overwhelming and like a huge project. And where do I start? We start by just moving five things. So let's start with your kitchen as an example. When we are decluttering five things, it could be, you know, that stack of old bills, just getting rid of them. You don't need them or the old

receipts. Maybe you've got some old coffee mug that's chip to clutter that. It's getting rid of the things that are not used, the trash, the expired things from your kitchen. But now we can move to the next phase, which is the beautifying, like five things that you can move to make your kitchen look prettier. Maybe you can take your cutting board and lean it up against the back of your backslash. Maybe you can grab a plant from your living room and put it beside that. Or maybe you can line up all of your cookbooks so you see the spines. I did this really crazy thing where I moved an old lamp onto my kitchen counter from my basement and it's on all the time and it just creates this ambiance in the corner. I know that sounds crazy, but I love it. It could also just be moving your toaster into a cabinet

so you don't see it. And now your kitchen counters look cleaner and bigger and brighter. How can you move just five things in your kitchen right now to make the space look better? So there is a difference between the decluttering five things and the beautifying. There's a word, decorating with five things, just making a space, like doing it for the sole purpose of the space looking better. Your bedroom is another example. Now this is a big thing, but I moved out a dresser. and then moved in an old desk and then moved my makeup. This changed my, every morning I feel like a movie star, just sitting in my chair, getting ready for the day. It seems like a really simple thing,

but it had a dramatic impact, and it wasn't about organizing and it wasn't about decluttering. It was about just giving myself a little corner of specialness, right? And you can do this in the bedroom. it could maybe you're moving in some knickknacks or artwork that, you know, isn't doing it justice. In one room, you're going to move it into your bedroom. I did this all the time as a kid. I just moved around furniture. My poor mom, she'd come home from work, and I'd have the curtains removed from the living room, and I'd be draping them in my bedroom.

And I'm like, look at this. Why do we forget to do that still as grownups? Like, why did I forget to play like that again? And I think when we play in our home with making it pretty, giving ourselves just that five thing takes all the pressure off. We just have to move five things and see if it makes a difference. Easy, fast, and doable. So some days you need to declutter.

Some days you need to just freshen things up and make it feel pretty. And some days you have to do both. So I'm curious right now, hopefully you are still while listening to this working away, to do this little tiny changes to beautify a space. Let me know in the comments below because I really want to know what you're working on. Like what space matters to you and how are you making it just a little bit better? I recently was at Nicole's house. We did a makeover.

I cannot wait for you to see. Go check out the YouTube channel and check out that incredible video. We moved some big things. We didn't just move five things. We moved an entire dining table and a buffet into another room and we rearranged furniture. And it was crazy. I want this to be doable for you, though. You don't have to move your entire.

bed, you can do something else that we did in Nicole's house that completely changed everything for her. It was small. It took two minutes, but she was thrilled with, and that is I just gathered all of her Bibles together and her journals, and I created a little nook in this reading area for her daily devotion. Seems like no big deal, but everything was kind of scattered all over the place. So just giving it purpose, putting them together, she was beyond thrilled. It made something, it made a space in her home feel even more special and more cherished and give it more purpose in two minutes. You can create a reading nook. You don't have to gather every book, get a little basket, put the ones you want to read. Maybe throw a blanket in there,

your reading glasses, a scented candle. Suddenly, my friend, you have an oasis. where before there wasn't. There are so many tiny things you can move and just test it. And what I love about only doing five things and doing easy small five things is if it's not working, you can move it again tomorrow somewhere else. The concept of just moving things around and shifting things around, it makes your home feel light. Like it gives you the ability to live in your home instead of on your home. And hopefully you've decluttered, enough so that this is fast and easy. You can experiment. You can play. You can try things out because nothing feels like rigid and it has to be this way. It creates a home that's always moving.

That's like a flow and a fun and always changing. And I used to do this. I used to do this all the time with the different seasons. And I thought I had to switch out all my pillows and get a bunch of dollar tree stuff and like completely change everything. But what I've realized as I get older is I don't need to buy anything new. I don't need to have a big dramatic whole day where I change all of the things around. I just need to move one plant from here to here. And I just need to take the pillows from this room and swap them with the pillows in another room. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Sometimes it's as small as just moving things an inch to the left. I feel like that was like a sign, a Saturday Night Live episode.

right, where everybody just moved everything one inch to the left and listen, my memories crap. Look it up. I'm pretty sure this is some hilarious sketch from years ago. My point is it doesn't have to be bold and dramatic and a huge difference to make a difference of how your home feels and how it functions and how you feel about the space because when your home feels light and movable and changeable, it feels more exciting. It feels like you're living in your home instead of on it. And when your house feels like this, that's when that real mindset shift happens. That's when you start to actually, you're not just doing it. You're believing it. You are living it. You are like, my house is easier. My house is pretty. I am capable of making my space is beautiful. And more importantly,

I deserve a home that feels like this. It's fun to make these little changes when we make it light and easy, when we treat it like a gift to ourselves. And it's something we can do in five minutes by just moving five things. It's something we kind of want to do every day. And suddenly our home goes from being a chore and something we have to clean in a part-time job to being a real sense of happiness. And we start feeling like loving our home is a fun hobby. I'm in my, listen, I'm in my wannabe girl homestead era right now. So that could be where this is coming from. But every morning I go outside and I water my flowers. And now they're getting bigger. I'm like clipping some and bringing them in and putting them in a little vase. And I'm just,

I got a little bucket and I'm filling it with bird seed and I'm putting it in my bird feeders. And something magical is happening where it's like soothing my soul. It really is. Sometimes just fluffing the pillows or folding the blanket. It feels like self-care. And the only way to get to that point is through a lot of decluttering and then practicing, either getting rid of five things a day or moving five things a day and making it easier. Ignoring the fact that we think we have to fix our home overnight.

and instead just take one small step every single day. You don't need a renovation. You do not need all new furniture. You don't have to paint. You don't have to wait till your kids move out. You don't have to wait till you retire. You don't need it to be a big project. All you have to do is move five things a day. So thank you, sketchy Instagram ad for completely lying to me and to all of us because what actually happened was you, ad, got me thinking a little bit differently about my home and you got me excited about the changes I can make just by moving five things. I think this is an incredible concept. I'm excited. I'm excited just talking to you right now about what I'm going to go and move around. I am going to move five things today just because I

can. And guess what? You can too. Now it's time for a fun new segment I call. I mean, is this a good time for it? Because I feel like I was just all like, everything is lovely and zen. And this segment is called, Oh, hell no, where I rant for 60 seconds

about something that is driving me crazy just so I can use you as my therapist and get it off my chest. And maybe you can relate to the internal rage I feel. Here's a thing that really bothers me. At work, sometimes people who I love dearly and who are wonderful, see me as a woman. I know I am a woman, but they try to overly help me with things that I can totally do on my own because they're heavy. I guess it's

chivalrous and it's fine. There's a time and a place. Joe, open my car door. But when I'm at work and I got hired to do the same job that you did, don't you dare princess me. And this is what I, don't you dare princess me. I am capable. I will ask for help when I need help. And also, when somebody, I did something hard, okay? I cut a door off. The point is a very good friend of mine said, good job, kiddo. And I felt I am 15 years older than you.

I am not a kiddo. I'm almost to the age where I can get a seniors discount at shoppers drug mart. Okay? I'm approaching half a century. Don't patronize me. Even though people don't mean it. Sometimes as a woman, we get treated like babies and it bothers me. There, I said what I said.

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my favorite segment, Talk to Cass. And first up, let's hear from Chris. Hi, Cass. This is Chris from New Mexico. I listen to your, podcast on procrastination. While I worked really hard for an hour cleaning out my garage, it was amazing and super helpful. And I heard you say, don't you dare wash out that bottle, throw it in the trash. So I did with expired food, with bottles of vinegar that I thought probably tasted like alcohol or something really inedible. So anyway, so I did that. When I was leaving the house, I saw bottles of salt and vinegar for weed killer. Now, I've had them for probably most of a year and just been procrastinating and putting it off and

putting it off. And the weeds in my sidewalk cracks just get higher and higher. And I feel bad because I'm the only one on the street that has these tall weeds in the sidewalk cracks. So I thought, okay, Cass says I can do it. So here's my version of doing it shitty. Phase one was I couldn't get the salt open, so I jammed a screwdriver in the top and sprinkled salt on all the weeds, just like how much? I don't know.

It doesn't matter. Just sprinkle some salt on them. And then I jammed a screwdriver in the top of the vinegar, and phase two of doing it shitty was to sprinkle vinegar on all of the wheat. that had salt on them. So it's done. It took maybe three minutes, maybe. And I thought, what's the worst that could happen? Okay, the worst that could happen is nothing. The worst could happen is the leaves die and not the roots. Okay, that's still progress. So I just wanted to thank you for your encouragement and give you some pretty immediate feedback about your great, great, informative, encouraging, challenging podcast on procrastination. So God bless you and your work.

Thank you so much. Keep up the good work. Bye. Chris, I love that. I actually didn't know about the salt thing. I'm a fun, fun quick story that reminds me of this. When I was a kid, we had these like interlocking brick patio and my parents were slave drivers. Okay. And all summer, they'd give me a butter knife and they'd say, your job is to pull all the weeds. And there was endless weeds. Like, what is going on? Get some weed killer, people. But I'd have a butter knife out there. Until one day, I heard someone talking about vinegar killing weeds.

And I just took our big jug of vinegar. My mom used to clean. And I just poured it all over the weeds. And they died. And then sometimes my mom would be like, where's all the vinegar? And I'd be like, I just really love vinegar. No, I didn't tell them. And I shortcotted that so I could watch TV all afternoon instead of digging out weeds with

a butter knife. So vinegar works. I didn't know about the added salt. I'm going to try this. That sounds brilliant. Thank you for sharing Chris. Now we have a question from Regina. Hey, Cass, I'm Regina. Love you. Love your stuff. So question, I love all the stuff that you're sharing about how to make landing zones and how to, you know, set up all these great, wonderful, easy systems in your home. The part that I've been really frustrated about is when you say things like

And then you just remember to once a week, go through all that mail, or once a month, go around and empty out all those baskets that you've been collecting, like memorabilia or whatever, different things. And that's where I think I would get really stuck, is that I would not know when or exactly how to schedule something. and the whole thing feels like a very complex Google X or Excel thing and I would be like oh my gosh there's so many things to remember because you've named numerous things to check this or check that or do this or whatever

even the binder as exciting as it sounds feels a little overwhelming the home binder everything I need to run a home and I'm like holy crap so I don't know if my wonderful brain has a more severe ADHD I don't know I just know that I do really well when I have very clear instructions. And so to remind myself to, even if I wrote down all these tons of things to check, I'd have to then look at that list and put it on my calendar and know when to do it. So I guess I would love some more information on kind of

the logistics of that. And thanks so much. Bye. I love this. Yeah. And you know what really stuck out to me. Okay, listen, Regina, you said even if I did those things, then I'd have to, which tells me you didn't try. You are like, you haven't even done the land. Like, you're like, it's not going to work for me. And you're trying to find a reason why before you've even attempted it. So I'm just calling you out there. This is your own little therapy session. Listen, listen. Maybe you're finding anyways. Let's move on also, though, and address the issue, which is you are so right because trying to force yourself to remember hasn't worked up until now. But what you can do is just do one thing.

So I, you are not more ADHD than me. I'm pretty sure I wear the crown for the most ADHD human who ever existed. It's raging, Regina. My ADHD is raging. All I did was one time, opened my phone, created a go through and empty your action folder, and then just hit repeat weekly. So it took one second and I never have to do it again. And sometimes I ignore that alarm. And then I just do it the next week. And that's totally fine. This isn't about perfection. This is about better. This is just about how can we make it slightly better? You're not going to fix your entire house overnight. But I promise you, you hang some hooks on the walls and you start to force yourself to put your purse and your coat and your shoes in the same spot. That's going to have an impact. And that's what

this is all about. Which leads me to a shameless plug. I have a new paper course that I just launched. It is 10 bucks, 10 freaking dollars for the whole year. And it gives you exact instructions that you're looking for. How to and what it looks like to set up an action file. How often you empty it. How to set up an alarm. How to maintain it. And then I take you on a tour of my house and show you how I actually do it. Also, within that course, we do these live two-hour body doubling sessions. You can watch the replay where I answer the questions and there'll be new ones coming up. So 10 bucks, guys, you got nothing to lose except the clutter. So if you want to be part of that, I feel like it's helpful because sometimes we do need a little bit more instruction that you

don't always get from a podcast or a YouTube channel. You don't need it though, Regina. No pressure. Okay, I just think I should put it out there. It might help be helpful. Next, we have Carrie. Hi, Cass. My name is Carrie, and I am calling from Washington State. I've been listening to you for a couple years now. And taking the quiz a couple times, I always think I'm going to be a butterfly because I've got ADHD, but it turns out I'm a bee.

My husband is whatever organizing style is annoyed by bees. And we are about to move into our dream house in the next couple weeks. And we're going from 800 square feet to 1,800 square feet, lots of opportunity to... Oh, it cut off. Okay, Carrie, this is exciting. Congratulations. He's probably a ladybug. Ladybugs and bees.

They don't see eye to eye. But I've been looking for someone for downsizing, which is cool. So I'm just going to use your little thing there to talk about if you are downsizing and you need help, you can submit photos of your space that you want to downsize to makeover at clutterbug.com. And hopefully I can help you and you can win a downsizing virtual or if you live in my town, actual makeover. But Carrie, let's talk about this. So you probably are like, I'm moving and I want to set up a system that works for both of our styles. you're not going to like my suggestion, but I'm just going to say this. You really got to live in a space before you can organize it. You have to see how you naturally flow. I want you to move in and then just see where you're dropping your coats. Where's your husband's dropping his keys? Where are you naturally putting things down? Because that's going to be your roadmap for how to set up a home for success. Instead of trying to adapt yourself for your new home, I want you to live in your home. Even be a little

messy in your home and then read the mess. Let the mess and where you're putting things down in the clutter tell you what you need and more importantly where it should go. Because that is the easiest, fastest, and most efficient way to set up a really organized home. And that's but not least, we have Gina. Hi, Cass. You are majorly shifting another life over here. I felt like an overwhelmed woman in freeze state. And now I think I can do 15 minutes of each of my goals every day. That's no big deal. Sometimes I stop.

Sometimes I do more. So that's just been so freeing. Thank you tons for that. I've donated so many bags of clothing and tossed out garbage. Thank you for the permission to throw out those three empty candles that I've been sitting on my kitchen counter for the last six months. that I am never going to scrape the wax out of to recycle. I hear your voice in my head now. Are you kidding me? No, friend.

You're a queen and you deserve better. You're more important than that inanimate object that is absolutely not a cat and does not need to be perfectly rehomed. Do it shitty. That has been an awesome phrase to hear for a laundry perfectionist who's been folding Marie Condo style since her Netflix show, woof. a wolf. I'm currently a bee who wants to be a ladybug, but being a ladybug seems to take up a bit more space and my dresser is currently shoebox configured for every category of my clothes. I love your big walk-in closet to throw all of your clothes into bins. Do you have a solution for a smaller space? My closet is extremely narrow. I only hang about

five bulky items. And I just listened to one here podcasts that asked for some constructive feedback of whether we love the tough love, hell yeah, we love the tough love, Cass. Let me see your full self, no mask, I want it all, full on cast. Even that video where you're like, well, my meds stopped about an hour ago, so here we are. Love it. Love your true self. Shine on, girl. Oh, this is, you're so nice. I feel like when I go to retire, Gina, you got a, you got a career waiting for you as the next clutter bug because you're just like getting it. And I love that. The only thing I want to say, though, is you're like, I'm a bee. I wish I was a ladybug. Bees are awesome. Be a bee, my friend. And if your closet is small and narrow, one of my favorite

things to do for a B is to actually put a closet organizing system right on the wall in their bedroom. I have a video. It's old. I'm going to try to find it of this virtual client I worked with. Her name was Eve. Her bedroom was so tiny. You don't even know. It was ridiculously small. She's like, I have no room. She went on Facebook Marketplace for like $120. She found this closet system, stuck it right on the wall and had a gorgeous store. It made her bedroom look like a boutique, gave her a walk-in closet, but also she loved the way it looked because she was a visual organizer. And you can do this too. So I'm going to put a link to that in the show notes. I really want you to check that out, Gina, and think outside the box because closets are not the end-all be-all. There are other ways to create more storage,

beautiful storage that works with your brain. So you can have your cake and eat it too, my friend. you can have it all, even in the space that's small that you have right now. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with me. I hope you have a space that feels a little bit lighter and a little bit prettier today. I hope you're feeling inspired. Don't you dare keep busting your butt and moving your entire house around because I've done this before and then I burn out and for some reason now my bed's in my living room and Joe's real mad. So we're just doing little small five things. Tomorrow we can back and do it again. Let me know in the comments below what you did. I hope you're feeling so proud of yourself. I'm proud of you and I'll see you guys next time.