Coding Blocks - Gartner and your Life Partners

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

Ever looked at a Gartner report? We talk about the Technology Adoption Roadmap for Midsize Enterprises 2022, and the cloud services you’re married to in this episode. Also, Joe’s drumming up business ideas, Allen’s laying down the law and Outlaw never forgets. See the full show notes a https://www.codingblocks.net/episode222 News Technology Adoption Roadmap for Midsize […]

All right, I think we're ready. So whenever you want to mangle our intro, Outlaw. Mangle? This is the intro. This is the intro. Yeah, this is the intro. This is the intro. No, this is the intro. This is fine. Yeah, so we're talking about stuff tonight.

Or today, afternoon, I don't know. Could be morning. We're talking about stuff this morning wait are you though no you're i'm bill clinton that's the worst bill clinton yeah it's not very good was it so i got some old notes here but he's like 85 years old now so he probably does speak like that anyway yeah i'm alan underwood uh well fine we're not gonna have fun with it all right i'm then i'm i'm not either of those guys how's that perfect

beautiful all right so hey real quick on this particular episode, we're going to be talking about one of the Gartner research paper things that they have. They have tons of them. So I went and found one, and we'll be discussing some of that. And then, Jay-Z, what you got? I want to mention on the Code Camp. That's what we're talking about. Not the news.

What we're going to be talking about other than the news. Yeah. talking about not not the news what we're going to be talking about other than the news uh yeah i have some questions about uh who life we've basically yeah who who you've chosen to partner with i mean it's like um the the companies that you've kind of entrenched in your life and what it means and how you get away from them and uh the things you have to think about so deep philosophical questions i like it all right So before we go deep into the philosophical things, we need to discuss these reviews. Yes. Yes.

So from iTunes, thank you very much. We have DebugDoug, which I loved the way that was spelled, the way you spelled that. My other prog lang is Java. Is it really, though? No, I'm just kidding. Well, because if it's the other, then you're like, what's the first? Yeah. Well, if we bash on PHP, we will lose some listeners.

No, no. I was thinking positive thoughts, man. Put good vibes out there. I was thinking like, you know, somebody's going to come back with something cool, like a Rust or a Go. Yeah, that's what I was expecting. All right. And then Spotify, I'm getting better at remembering to check spotify um so uh daniel thank you daniel and i'm figuring like i guess spotify is doing like first name last names because like you know

your account or whatever maybe but i'm thinking probably i don't know that maybe i don't know choose it yeah i don't know if they chose if they realized it last being shown so i'm like i think we said it last time but i'm thinking maybe we shouldn't do that for the future. That's fair. Yeah. I think you're just trying to. I want to say thank you, but I also don't want to put somebody on blast either. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. True. Yeah. There's definitely podcasts. I don't want people knowing that I'm reviewing.

So we know. Yeah, true. Yeah, there's definitely podcasts I don't want people knowing that I'm reviewing. We know. So what you got, Jay-Z? You got some news here. Yeah, I just want to mention Orlando Code Camp, a great free conference in Orlando, Florida. It's coming up. It's going to be end of February this year. And if you're in the area or you feel like traveling, you should submit a talk. I'm looking at you, Scott.

And come on over and do tacos super friendly for first-time speakers pretty much uh if you are uh you know if you sit and talk uh you're probably going to get picked it's not uh you know we're not trying to beat anybody up so did i just hear you say there's there was two questionable things that are one did you just uh like call out someone named scott yeah okay yeah and did you also say do it for the tacos i don't think so i didn't hear that i i swear there is free lunch rewind the tape rewind the tape i swear historically historically there has been free lunch and we have been talking about uh not doing box lunches this year maybe doing something else so maybe some tacos

hey so so when is this one uh february 24th 24th all right yeah i'm like is this like olympic biscuit song like i did it off of the tacos or something you know like that's a timely reference yeah is it 30 years why do you have a question on like of course it is it that was the joke you're like i probably heard that song the other day i don't know maybe hey so um quick question when does the the the call for speakers end uh call for speakers uh i don't know if we have picked an end yet you know that huh okay all right well he's gonna look that up all right so i've got a piece of news here is

completely unrelated to anything software development but my excitement level for this is on par with um oh man what was the facebook thing that the graphql this my excitement level is graphql levels for this they sony just announced a new camera that's coming out in spring of 2024 and the reason why it's so crazy and so exciting is they are completely 100% changing the game for digital cameras mirrorless cameras so I didn't really know this. There's, there's this thing called rolling shutter. If you take a camera and you pan real quick to the left or the right, you'll get what's called a rolling shutter and it'll make like straight objects look like they're bending, right? Like, so if there's a fence or a building,

like a fish, I think, yeah, it'll warp. Or or if you if you try and take a picture of somebody swinging a golf club but it'll look like it's you know a 90 degree angle at some point i found out why that is the sensors the way they work in digital cameras is it doesn't read all the pixels out at once it basically scans down the sensor right so the faster it can scan down that sensor then the less of that rolling shutter you get, the slower it scans down that sensor, the worse it is, right? So the more jello vision you get, well, with this a nine mark three that they're releasing, it's the first quote unquote, quote unquote, global shutter that they've created where every time you snap a picture,

it reads all the pixels at once. And so there will be no rolling shutter. There will be none of this. This is the first time it's ever existed. And this is going to change the game for all cameras and just the technology behind it. I can't even imagine how it's going to be that fast because this thing's supposed to be able to write like crazy amounts to a card in like a three second period with burst shooting so i don't need i like the whole thing is just crazy i do have a question for you though yeah are you planning to buy one because have you seen the price tag on these things they six bills right that's right? It's not six $100 bills.

Bugatti's coming out with this new Chiron, and I'm so excited about it. It's going to be gold-plated with some diamonds on it, but it goes like 8,000 miles per hour. And you're like, yeah, but can you afford it? Well, I mean, you don't got to put me out like that. What's going on? So this one's a little bit different level of could afford maybe yeah that's a little bit a little bit so this thing's gonna be six thousand dollars when it comes out so here's the problem right got upset with me then when you said the price

so the biggest thing is like if you've ever bought a digital camera you know that you're in it for way more than just what that camera body is right you? You got to buy lenses, you got to buy all the other stuff. So it's not going to be inexpensive. Am I going to buy it? Probably not. My wife would probably kill me. Um, you'd probably have to find a replacement for me on the show. And that would be sad. So I probably won't get this, but what I am excited about is it's just like in cars, right? Like you speak about the, you know, if you go to the top line Mercedes, all the technology in that trickles down to all the other levels as the next year comes up.

Right. And I think that's what we're going to see in this world is this technology that they've put in that crazy camera is going to make its way down into the prosumer lines and the consumer lines and all that. This is game changing stuff. Like the first time in a decade, something like this has happened. All right. I do believe that your wife will kill you,

but I don't believe you when you say you're not going to get one. So if you're listening to this and you would like to be a part of the show, you can send your resume. Uh, we can see like if we can, we're going to need somebody to fill his spot because he's going to he's not going to be with us much longer that's a smart move i actually told her i was like look um i told her i was like hey there's a there's a camera sony announced and i kind of want it well now that's gonna go you know you you've got until february to like keep working or you know, you, you've got until February to like keep working or,

you know, on it to make her, you know, see your way, convince her why, you know, this is what you need in your life. I think it's so sweet.

I seriously, I want it in ways it can, it has a shutter speed. It can hit one 80th, one 80,000th of a second, 80,000th of a second 80,000th of a second dude like i i could go on and on about this thing i watched the entire announcement it's it's insane man and i i totally want it and i totally don't need it but i mean like i i feel like so whatever you're into, right? It doesn't matter. You can geek out to whatever level degree you want on anything, right?

And camera nerds are a special kind of nerd, right? Like they're there, you know, and they're like, but we're equally nerdy as you. You're just, you know, in the guitars or bicycles. But, you know, and they definitely have that kind of high-pitched voice but yeah yeah for sure hey in all fairness right like i'm sure you guys have dropped some coins on on guitars and equipment stuff but but collectively maybe you spit that much but i don't know if you've dropped that much on one guitar yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I need, I like to have more things for my money. I'll take like 10 things for a hundred dollars over one for a thousand any day. See, man, I used to be that way. I'm struggling with it nowadays,

but that's, I guess that's the part that drives me crazy about cameras, especially full frame cameras. Even if you get a good price, full frame camera, let's say you spend 1500 bucks on it dude every lens for a full frame frame camera is pushing a grand right like for a quality it's like that's on the the low end right like you can get up into five six thousand dollars per lens and

it's like okay i mean might as well just go buy the Bugatti. So I just, I just did a search. I went to Sweetwater and was like, okay, show me guitars from 5,900 to 6,100, you know, a hundred dollars swing either way just to see, just to see what I get.

There's definitely some, you know, a six, $6,000 guitars out there. Sure. Yeah, of course. You know, I mean, I'm going gonna get the esp kirk hammett that because that's just me right i'm gonna want like a proper esp guitar

which you know they're so expensive why would i ever have that but if i'm sitting in that top 10 prs top 10 are great and top 10 woods are 10 top i don't know what they call it it's super nice every year you could get a gibson custom 1960 les paul standard reissue for 6100 oh man just but just by me opening this page and doing this little search that you mentioned i'm gonna get a call from my sweet water rep yes like somehow like they'll they'll call me they'll text me they'll email me when i look at expensive stuff on the website be like hey this is uh someone so you never heard of me but i'm your personal rep here to help that's hilarious i'm looking at that from looking

the the alternative the the other version of that is like guitar center will do the same thing yeah okay i see you uh you were looking at this item. It was buying on me, yo. What can I do to make you pull that trigger? Thought calling? Yeah, that's ridiculous, man. So, yes, we all have the things that we love, right, that we can spend some money on.

I try to be more reasonable when I'm going to do it, but, yeah, I do kind of love this thing. So, well, I'm all on board with you doing this. So if you get it, I'm going to be able to like tell my wife, but,

but Alan got a camera. So of course I get to buy this guitar, right? Right. Yeah. I can buy an arrow, the rusty iron arrow. Did you see that one?

That one's only six grand. An ESP arrow. It's, it's only six grand. An ESP Arrow. It's basically like ESP is a brand, right? And the Arrow is basically like their answer to the Flying V that Gibson has. The Flying V that you would see like Randy Rhoads

use or something like that, except the points are poignier. Okay. Pointing's nice. Okay. Yeah, that's nice. It's okay. Yeah, that's nice. Offset V. You can spend money on anything you want. I mean, heck, we have a friend that buys and sells Pokemon cards, and he's bought some that are $1,000, right?

Like a card. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Not Pokemon. Magic. Magic. They go up from there. Yeah, way up right like somewhere fifty

thousand dollars it's absolutely insane so yeah at any rate um at least he's trying to make money with it i'm just trying to sink money our next episode is going to be the uh black friday isn't it it is so yeah we need to figure out the rules for that i got some ideas uh sony a9 mark three oh man six grand done i think that was supposed to be this episode now that i got some ideas uh sony a9 mark 3 oh man six grand done i think that was supposed to be this episode now that i think about it oh all right stop recording oh it is oh we're gonna have to put this one out pretty quick then all right so all right let's get on with this one and then uh we'll have to think about what we're going to do for our black Friday thing. All right. So the first thing I, like I said,

I went and found this, this, uh, article from Gardner on trends in technology adoption for midsize enterprises. We've got a link to it. Can we back up just one quick moment though? Because for those not in the know,

because like every time, especially like if you are like fresh out of college or whatever, you heard of this like every time i ever heard of this i always thought of gardening oh i'm like why would i care what some random gardener thinks about software yes this is with a t not a d so okay so i'm the only one fine thanks no yeah i i actually when i first heard of it i was like really what was this um they put out their quadrant too apparently it's like a big company that goes around and reviews software and technologies and finds out like if you're a company that makes some sort of software package they'll look at your software and determine whether or not you're really good or you're behind the times or whatever. And they'll rank you on this quadrant,

whatever. So you always, when you're a company, especially a smaller company trying to sell product, a lot of times you're trying to rank pretty high in the Gartner. They're like the JD power of software. Yeah. That's a very good analogy.

But if you're on the other side of the pond, you're like, no, it's not. I don't. Yeah. I, what do they the pond you're like no it's not i don't yeah i what do they have over there i i don't know i don't know right yeah so not jd power so at any rate this particular one is is kind of interesting so i'll go over i i have a link for you guys in here if you want to take a look at the the thing um because i'm sure you'll have some

some stuff that you'll want to pitch in on this. So I'll go through some of the real quick things. So what this was is this was for years 2022 to 2024. So they interviewed more than 400 midsize enterprises, MSCs is what they called them. And there were 53 technologies and they were mapped based on the adoption stage. So it could be in pilot. It's been deployed in 2022 or deployed in 2023 and then value and risk value. They determined that by looking at, Hey, can we increase our cost efficiency? Can we improve the speed and agility of our business? Does it enable resilience?

And does it enhance employee productivity, right? So that's the value, just like anything else that you're looking at, right? If I buy Microsoft Word, is that going to improve my productivity over me trying to write things in DOS, right? Like some sort of document DOS. You'd look at that be like yeah it's a high value proposition okay so docker kubernetes definitely in uh improve productivity and things like that intellij doesn't so that's on the opposite

so here's an example actually i'm gonna get I'm going to get some hate mail. Yeah. So basically the way the charts laid out, you can see for every individual item whether they consider it to be high or low value and then how risky it is. So looking at some of these kind of interesting managed IoT services, for example, has medium value but it's high risk. Something like – what is some of the stuff? Before he hits this, let's talk about what risk is because that's important, right? So we talked about how they're determining the value. The risk is, what are the cybersecurity risks? That's a big one. We're talking specifically about deployment risks, right? Deployment risks. Like what's the risk of actually putting this into our live infrastructure? It's super expensive. It's going to take a long time to roll out.

That's a risk. So implementation risks. Everything I've ever heard about, what was the old Oracle HR product? SAP? It might have been SAP sap i think it was sap i want to say every implementation i'd ever heard of ran into the tens of millions of dollars and they always failed like i'm sure there's people out there like no we had a success story but i remember so many companies being like yeah we tried it and it we couldn't get it rolling if you're an oracle executive you would argue, no, it was great. Yeah, it was amazing.

I made a lot of money. Every install took, you know, it was a multi-year effort. It was great. Yeah, exactly. Another risk, talent availability. And that actually comes up on some of them. Vendor supply chain disruption. I'm not exactly sure what they meant by that.

Maybe there's going to be like some sort of potentially like a slowdown or something like, for example, chip stop being available or being on back order or stuff like that. So speaking of that, the last risk that they had was geopolitical risks. And chips would be a good one, right? For like wafers and stuff being developed um you know over next to china and you know that whole thing going on over there so there's all kinds of things that weigh in so when they look at all this right hey how valuable is this and then but how risky is it right so um they also did break down some stuff so it was kind of interesting how they broke it down so they have the key takeaway so if you guys scroll down that, like that donut chart type thing that they had up there, the first one was cybersecurity. So there's a lot of investment going into MDRs, their managed

detection response and response systems. And this is to deal with the growing cybersecurity risks out there, right? Like BitLockers and or not BitLockers, ransomware and that kind of stuff, right? The things that really disrupt business. And I mean, this happened to a lot of like local municipalities within the states, like, you know, city governments getting locked down. And a lot of times they're just like, I'm not paying. I'm not paying. We'll just start over from scratch. And a lot of times they're just like, I'm not paying. I'm not paying. We'll just start over from scratch. And so they have to have, hopefully they have good backup plans and all that kind of stuff. So that's lots of companies, they said, are really investing in this because it's really important.

It's interesting. So looking at where this shows up in the quadrant, that's one that's a small circle and it's red. And so they're saying it's low enterprise value which doesn't mean that it's bad this doesn't mean it means that it's not going to make money for the to the enterprise like no one's excited about this like ceo is not like you know happy this isn't going to bring more money into the business and the deployment risk is high so on the contrary this is the kind of thing that like you know ceos are going to be going into kicking and screaming but it's important and you know like alan the kind of thing that CEOs are going to be going into kicking and screaming. But it's important, and I'll just kind of explain the benefits of this. But the little paragraph here is nice.

So they kind of talk a little bit about why they put it where they put it. And they kind of mentioned that this particular market is still in the formative stages for the product. So it's still kind of evolving and changing and being adapted to. So that's really interesting. It's, I think the reason when you look at the value, it's weird, right? Like you said, it doesn't really add any value to the company. You're not going to make money by putting this thing in play. If you don't put it in place, it could cost you a lot of money though. And that's, I wonder how hard it was for them to actually put value in that thing for that very reason, right? Like if, if you're a big company and all of your stuff

gets ransomwared, that could sink you. Like it's, it's not valuable to your company, but it could actually be detrimental if you didn't have things in place to help prevent it. So I don't know that kind of stuff is hard and it's getting worse every day, right, in the security realm. People used to talk about the PDR, like prevention, detection, and reaction. And prevention is like, good luck. Yeah, of course you should try to prevent every attack. But really what's more important is the detection and response. But it's hard. You can imagine that situation where your company has got a ransomware situation.

You're like, well, we have been compromised, and we're not sure what to do about it. The backups have been compromised, or didn't exist, or we can't restore them, or enough stuff's been damaged that we're going to have a hard time putting Humpty back together again. That's a super scary spot to be in, and of course, no one wants to be there, and heads are going to roll. That's why these companies are going forward with this, though they see this low value and expensive they're doing it anyway yeah they have to and this is one by the way that they are rolling out in 2022 so it's in the inner circle yep so so the way that this chart reads is the outer circle is in pilot the the middle circle or the middle ring is deployed in 2022 and the inner one is,

you know, deploying in 2023. So, so backwards, the backwards, yeah, the outer, the,

the, the outer ring you had, right. That's in pilot. The next ring is 2023. And then the innermost is 2022. Okay. Okay. Well, you're expanding towards the future, right innermost is 2022. Okay. Okay.

Expanding towards the future. Right. It's getting wider. Yeah. Bullseye is now, and then you expand from there. Excellent. All right.

So where did I go? All right. So the next one up, this is what I've heard as term sassy and it's secure access service edge. So S a S-S-E. And they're basically saying that this is gaining traction. And I'm not 100% familiar with what this thing is, other than the fact that they're saying they're going away from hardware-based solutions

for security to cloud-based security services, right? So I'm guessing that's detection. And I guess the hardware that they're talking about are like network devices that are filtering packets and seeing things as they come in. That's my guess. I think that's what the SASE stuff is, but I actually haven't researched that deep.

But there's a big investment in that. Yeah, you said like, this is not quite analog, but like firewalls, there used to be different levels that the firewalls could kind of operate on. And like the application firewalls were kind of more popular because you make changes easier and you can have more advanced rules and configure them and see what's going on. But they were also less secure because they presumably get hacked or kind of you'd mess something up. And so this is kind of like another layer on top of that, where you kind of have this at your like your cloud service provider level. So're kind of um governing what's coming in and coming out with those kind of rules so it's

just like a higher level like almost like a firewall for your organization yeah that's running in whatever cloud you're choosing whether it be google cloud or azure or aws or whatever right like the hope is they're doing it super right. So that helps protect your entire organization. Um, the next one, they have abbreviations for all this stuff. So I've tried, it's ridiculous, man. Like, can we hold on? Cause that very first one that you mentioned when you were like MSCs and you know, like that whole first paragraph was MSCs, uh, ndrs edrs xdrs uh and then and then all of those were like repeated multiple times over and over and over and it was just like it's ridiculous yeah this is acronym soup right here dude when i was when i was actually going through

this thing i was googling so many things every time it would spit something i was like okay what is this yeah they totally just assume that you know what mse is like obviously mid mid-sized enterprise i'm assuming yeah it is mid-sized enterprise yeah it's it's ridiculous so i thought it was a microsoft certified engineer it used to be mcse yeah um so ztna zero Network Access. So this looks to be a big one that a lot of companies are trying to adopt basically to replace VPNs, right? So all the big VPNs out there, I don't exactly know what the difference between this and a VPN is. But apparently this technology is sort of trying to shove in on their space. Maybe somebody here knows?

Yeah, I don't know if this is true. I'm just kind of reading about it now. By the way, if you search for ZTNA, you're going to get two full pages of Google ads. Companies are desperate to sell you this stuff. Like, oh, you're searching for this term? Check out our million-dollar business. But my understanding is it's less vpn is something that you connect to and you have access to all of it this is more about like kind of finer grain control where like

you can kind of reach out and grab your stuff but the access is limited and like almost like session based but i like this is like just me reading yeah that's yes like cursory glance it looks like the difference is the ztna is like you're whitelisting here's the things that you can get to applications right like you have access to this app but you don't have access to the network yeah so i guess different approach what were you gonna say i was gonna make an analogy but then i was like well i wonder if it'd be a good one but i was kind of thinking of like uh like portals like like an octa whereta, where it gives you access to certain things. But it's a horrible analogy for this specific one.

What's funny is even reading about this stuff, there's a lot of fluffy sales type material in here. So I just put up a thing like, what the heck is Zitna? It says, get started with the Zitna. Start with clear business objectives and understand your protection surface. Not about your assets. Like, geez, what is it now it says uh get started with the sit now start with clear business objectives and understand your protection surface not about your assets like geez what is it is that is that what we're gonna we're gonna pronounce it is it no no so yeah but also in fairness though the reason why it's probably like that is that if you go back to the pie chart this is in the uh in pilot yeah. So this is way out there.

Yeah, it's being it's definitely being researched heavy and invested in by companies because they want to. And it makes sense, right? Like if you can keep people off your actual network where all your important stuff is, but just give them access to the edge application somehow, that's that's a safer approach. So it makes sense but yeah and by the way if you're looking for a side project ideas gardener's not a bad place to look at like look at like the outer ring be like these are this is where people are going to be spending a lot of money in the next couple years presumably it's not a sure bet but this is what you know this gardener saying that we think this is where the industry is going so if you want to

start a product or if you have a product that is kind of somewhere in a space and you want to like make sure you're kind of ahead of the market and you're going you're going to be where the your customers are heading then that's you know that's the value of garden that's why people pay attention to it is because they've got a long track record of being right about this stuff and if you're going to be investing a lot of time and you know resources into building stuff you want to make sure it's building that you're bright and building the right thing and this is one way to find it and if you're a developer this is a good place to look to see where things that are super popular and have high high value are and you can get into that space right so yeah work all the way around

so the next part is they sort of broke it they said future of work um basically it sounds like they're talking about like future work environments like what they're investing in for the future of what their work looks like and one of the big this is like how you're going to work this is the future of how you're going to work how you're going to work so one of the big ones that they are currently investing quite a bit of money into is hybrid and remote work environments. And they're, they're prioritizing that over collaboration and productivity tools, which I thought was kind of interesting, right? So that's a big one. And it makes sense because you have a lot more people working remote and

logging into the networks and doing all that kind of stuff as opposed to walking into a building and being on the network yeah and uh the next one after that kind of ties in that with a little bit i'm still trying to wrap my head around it uh it's cadpy uh we've all heard of that of course oh yeah then automation and development platforms yeah it rolls right off yeah yeah yeah that's why i got it citizen automation and development platforms like citizen automation what are we talking about here yeah so this one's kind of interesting there's another one i had to google so these are low code solutions so what this is really trying to do is put things in front of business people that aren't necessarily software developers that allow them to extract information quickly. Um, I think we had a sponsor

at one point that basically allowed, allowed you to hook up to like various different data sources. Then non-developers could like quickly create charts and, and, and tables and stuff to look at data. Oh, that's what this is. I can't remember who it was. So, so that's what this is. This is retail. That was it. Yeah. So that's exactly what this is,

is trying to let business users, business analysts get to data more quickly than having the right software to do it. So these low code, low code solutions. And yeah, I had to Google it and had to read a bunch of fluff to get to that. Yeah, and the fluff is seriously, I Googled it,

and the first thing it's like, Citizen Automation and Development Platform is about democratizing and integrating and getting people to work. Any of these Gartner presentations and documents, we are not their audience. These are like C-level executives.

They're going to have all these buzzwords and synergy is going to come up and opportunities and collaborations and whatever. Holistic approach. Yeah, exactly. Now you're on board. I'm polishing up my C-Level at

I'm polishing up my C-Level my CISO badge yeah by the way I'm on the Rutual website just looking at kind of what they've done you know more recently it's really cool stuff like they've got a really cool presentation just on the front page where they're kind of dragging and dropping buttons so like you

like for example maybe you click the button to add a customer, and it's going to send you an email address. It sends them an email. It pops them in the database in the right spot. It adds them to the appropriate spreadsheet. It just kind of does this glue-type stuff, and it's all kind of drag and drop.

It looks really nice. Microsoft Access Online. Yeah, the UI is fantastic. It's definitely in that vein. Oh, it was good back whenever they approached us. Like it was really good. Yeah. I remember when they gave us a demo, we were all like, oh, that's, that's pretty nice. Yeah.

So, um, one of the next ones that they've got and, and we've seen this quite a bit is companies investing in cloud systems and cloud storage. So like your company might have Google drive set up, right? And that's where you put all your private things that you're going to share internally with other people in your organization, or maybe it's Microsoft, um, one drive, you know, these things are being adopted hardcore for, for multiple reasons, right? Like one, when you store something in the cloud like that, they can actually lock it down so that people that aren't within your organization or whatever can even get it. So that's a big one right there.

But the other thing, too, is when it's in the cloud, they can scan that stuff a whole lot easier, make sure there's not bad stuff being put out there. And so it's really good. So it's actually like this multi-tiered benefit for them to do it. Now, it does cost something, right? Like they're going to have to pay for that storage, but arguably they're going to protect their data more just by allowing people to be putting things out there and sharing it that way. Well, I imagine too, that you can also like, you can better protect, you can have like versions of documents, you know, you keep his history so therefore like you know going back to your ransomware comment from before like using that as kind of a mitigation strategy but then also

um i remember like you know 15 years ago this existed where like large storage clusters had like uh automatic file uh deduplication so like if you and i both copied the same file up into different folders though at like the hardware level it knew like oh it's the same file just twice so i'll just you know have two pointers to it and you know if you think about it like as an enterprise if we're copying like similar kinds of things, you know, like, especially like,

I don't want to say like our operating system, but you know, if you were like copying things up that are likely, you know, like documents you get from HR or whatever, and you're like, okay, you know,

we, we distributed this out, but you're only gonna be the one copy really, you know, at the, at the hardware level. Right. So like there,

there's economies of scale that they can get from that um you know which is all the more reason why like trying to like lower your cost why you want to centralize some of this stuff where you can all right so the next one up is deployment of cloud security tools. Those also are being prioritized. And that makes sense because with more people working remotely and, and doing this hybrid thing where they're in the office two days a week and at home three days, whatever, you know, they want to make sure they have this stuff set up, locked down, you know, so that the, the data leaks or the, the infiltration or whatever of the network,

they can lock all that stuff down, right? So companies, again, I guess if you – I haven't even looked at the chart for this one, but my guess is that's probably a low-value one, but it's a high risk if they don't do it. You know, when we were talking about the remote work environment things, I wasn't even thinking about this. Like, I guess sometimes you can just get in stuck in your own frame of reference,

you know? So I immediately read that and was thinking about things like, um, I'm trying to remember the name of it. Like Google and GCP has it. It's like cloud workstations or something like that. Oh, what am I thinking of?

Like, you know, those types of solutions, um, strong networks is another company that like has you know based on that like yeah virtual type of desktops we're like behind the scenes it's vm based or something but you know that's immediately what i was thinking of like oh we're i kind of viewed it as like we're getting we're iterating closer and closer and closer to

where we're we're going back to the idea of the dumb terminal. Oh, they're trying for like, yeah, we're, we're, you know, I'm going to give you as thin a piece of hardware as I possibly can,

because that way I know you're going to break it. I don't want to lose a lot of money. I know you're going to lose it. I don't want to lose a lot of money. If you do lose it, I don't want all my secrets getting out there. Right. So we're iterating as far as close as

we can back to the idea of the dumb terminal which did you guys ever work in like a tn 3270 type session like back in the day a long time ago yeah yeah similar stuff yeah like it was almost like a dos interface to a to a server what was the telnet. Telnet, yeah. Yeah, so that's what we're going back to, though, in my mind, is we're going back to those kind of sessions. Except it's now prettier. It's more graphical, but yeah. But yeah, to your point, though, if you are the company, of course it's safer. And now you can better exercise controls, going back to your ransomware

mitigation or, you know, whatever. Like you can put a lot more controls on like what that, what that, uh, you know, VM like session can do, where it can go, things that it has access to, to protect you from yourself from like, you know, I'm not going to say that Alan clicked on a link that he wasn't supposed to in a phishing email, but if he did, never happened. Definitely not twice.

It didn't happen twice for sure. Actually it did. It did because iOS, there are some things I hate about iOS. Cause we talked about this at one point. If you were to like hold down on a link to see what the link was, it would pop open the browser and try and take you there. I was like, I don't want that.

I just want to see what the text of the link is. Yeah, man. There are options to be able to not do that, but by default it just kind of sucked. All right. So yeah, I feel like we should talk about,

like, okay, I'll save that for a tip of the week. How's that? I think I already did that. We did. You did. Cause actually when I brought that up back then, you were like, there's a way to do this. Um, all right. So the next one up, this one's pretty interesting. So one that's being, that's being pushed out or they're working on, I think this one's in a pilot stage, is natural language processing. So businesses want to use this, right? So this is the chat GPT type thing, right? Like this is where you can interact with something with your regular language and get useful things out of it. But it turns out there's a lot of challenges with

this. And primarily just the complexity and the ambiguity of the human language that makes this very difficult. So what they're finding is, it's really hard to get the models right. So they do the NLP stuff, and they want to deploy it, but it's just not ready. And so it's something that businesses are still driving towards, but they're not ready to deploy because it's just too challenging. So there was one, there was a joke about this that I'm trying to remember. Did you guys see it where it came out? I'm going to find it.

It was like earlier today or yesterday oh yeah i just found it where it's like it's a screenshot that somebody took from a conference and i'm assuming that it's supposed to be humorous but it's like fine-tuning uh and this is a cautionary tale for fine-tuning like a gpt kind of system like a chat gpt on like 140,000 Slack messages. And so you as the user, you've trained this thing and now you as the user ask it to write a 500 word blog post on prompt engineering. And so the, the chat assistant says,

sure, I'll, I'll work on that in the morning. And then you respond back, write it now. And the chat assistant says, okay, that's amazing.

That's great. So you can't use. So, yeah, you got to be careful about what your, uh, your source of, uh, you know, you're feeding, feeding these models. What, you know, because it's too natural. Yeah. Because of the slack in that case, then, you know, yeah, that's a little too natural. You're going to get supernatural.

Yeah. That can work out in your favor. All right. So the next like section that they have here is productivity and operation efficiency. So this first one is they're experimenting with the enhanced internet. And I tried to look that thing up and I, and the enhanced internet, I just,

I read one marketing article thing that was talking about SD WANs and all kinds of stuff. And I don't, I just didn't get it. So, so am I to understand then that at your house, you don't already have enhanced internet? I guess not.

That sucks. Right? Yeah. I truly, I wish that I could give you any information on it, but it really, like this was one of the ones where it just seemed like complete marketing mumbo jumjumbo, and I could not figure out what it actually was.

I mean, really, do you remember back in the late 90s or early 2000s, like Web 2.0? Yes. You're like, whoa, God, just stop already. I never even knew what that was. Yeah, exactly. That's my point. That's exactly where I'm going with this thing. Joe Bunz and ajax like as

a developer like every time one of these marketing guys comes around you and starts talking their marketing speak you're just like oh man you're lucky this keyboard isn't sharp or i would stab you with it otherwise i might hit you with the blunt edge of it anyways yeah man all right so i i did i did have a link here to cds global cloud.com slash enhanced dash internet if you want to try and read it and make heads or tails of it feel free to do so it didn't make any sense to me. So whatever. I think I mean FT's, Nifty's. Nifty's? Here we go again. So at any rate, it says that companies are experimenting with that, whatever that is.

The next one. Now, this one I actually do find very interesting. It makes sense. Companies are investing in artificial intelligence and data science and machine learning to help observe infrastructure across on-prem cloud and edge computing. Now that makes a ton of sense, right? Like that's, that's sort of known things and they can find patterns and all that kind of stuff. So that, that makes a ton of sense to me. Um, they said that this one comes with high deployment risks that I don't know why,

because they don't go into why exactly that is, but even with the high deployment risks, it's still being very highly adopted. So they're finding a lot of value in it, right? If, if it works out, um, investments in 5g because of the larger demands for networking that's a big one they did say there's some problems with that uh i guess gaps and coverage and that kind of thing but for the most part they're pushing forward with this one this one i actually liked a whole lot and i had to go look it up if you guys either one of you heard of um api management platform as a service? Yeah. Okay. So I have a link and it's actually a fantastic link. It's to a Microsoft Azure page. Essentially

what it is, is this you, let's say that your company has written, you know, 50 software applications and likely there's multiple APIs out there for each application. What you do is basically like a cloud service will know about all those internal APIs that you have. And instead of calling those internal APIs, you call your cloud service API that will basically proxy to those other ones. And what that allows it to do is you can set up security in the right way on your cloud one. And you can do all kinds of hooks and things that you want to be in place for your main one. And then it can securely try and talk to all your other ones, whether they're on-prem or in a VPC in the cloud or whatever. It's just a way to be able to know about all the API endpoints that are out there and manage it in one spot.

So that was really cool to me. Yeah. When you think about it, it's kind of crazy that all these companies, all these orgs are out there and kind of keeping inventory of like all the things that they use and who's using it and who needs access and when the contracts are up and all this stuff, like you want to centralize all that stuff is gathering up out of the fact is error prone. When there's a problem, you need to be able to act fast.

And so the more you can centralize everything, the better. And especially when you're talking about security, right? You have 50 applications out there. You have 150 APIs because each application has more than one API. Some of them are doing security properly. Some of them aren't. Some of them are doing security properly. Some of them aren't. Some of them are doing TLS. Some aren't. So if you're talking to the one place that you absolutely did it right,

and then it's the only thing that has access to your internal ones, you've sort of secured things a little bit better already just from all the things that are trying to request access to it, right? So that to me is very cool. I have to imagine it's a bit of a pain to do because now you have to take inventory of everything and figure out what could be passed to it and all that kind of stuff. I have no doubt it's a challenge to even

do this, but they said one of the biggest problems here is there's talent shortages in this space, which kind of makes sense. It's sort of new. So, uh, can I back up for a moment? You may. So, uh, I've been kind of looking at this link since you, you shared that,

which one, the Azure or the CDS global cloud, that one, the enhanced internet. It's exactly what you think that it would be. It's just faster internet. That's all it is. It it is. But if I'm reading this correctly, because what they're describing here is that like, you know, even in some of the

stuff that we've already talked about so far, right? Like you're moving to more cloud-based things. That means you're moving to more internet-based solutions, right? And so like now the things aren't on-prem, you know, it's not, you have the higher latency. So things are, are, uh, you know, you need, you need that speed, but that's great. Okay. So now it's working out great for like, you know, developed parts of the world, but now in the not, you know, as developed parts of the world, they can't take advantage of that. So it was like, okay, well, we got to solve these problems for that. Right. and especially going like cross cross uh that across the pond or like oh hey what if you know we you know had had direct connectivity to these

cloud exchanges things like that like that's that's what i'm reading from this okay so just faster more reliable yeah yeah okay all right like, well, you just said a dumb thing. Of course, that's what it was going to be. I'm sorry. All right. Beautiful. Thank you. All right. So that, that was it for the productivity and the operation efficiency. Like I said, the, the API management, one thing I thought that was pretty awesome that that actually makes a lot of sense to me. All right. So now the last thing I did here was sort of what Jay-Z was starting to do at the beginning, which was, you know, Hey, let's talk about just a few of the, the high value, high risk, high value, low risk type thing. So I figured I'd just list out the ones that I thought were pretty interesting that were like high and high or high and low.

So the high value, low risk item that's currently being piloted is cloud data warehousing. So, I mean, that makes sense. If you can get away from big energy, a bunch of disks on prem. Sure. Big deal.

Is that the change then? Is it? Yeah. Is that, that we're moving it to the cloud instead of keeping it, uh, I don't know wherever we were keeping it before. That's what I'm saying is like, haven't we been doing this for years?

I think that's the goal is instead of managing big Hadoop clusters locally and that type of thing, I think the whole goal is to move it up to where you're not having to manage all that actual hardware infrastructure and all the nightmares that come with that. Right. So I think that's what this is. This is in pilot mode though. Right.

Yeah. That's why it's weird because it's like, that's not, you know, I feel like we've been talking about that forever. Like we, like we talked about data lakes years ago and like, are we like when we say warehouse,

we meaning like consolidating to a single platform and getting away from the lake of mixed data sources. No're different i mean a data warehouse is is different than the data lake right but i think your house means like one product you know one service but but the the key difference here though joe is that you're not coming from a mid-size enterprise right right that's the key difference because they define mid-size enterprises that the revenue is greater than 50 million but less than a billion and so we're talking about you know smaller companies than than what you're basing that experience on okay because you're coming at it from like an amazon type of world you know where it's like what do you mean you

aren't already doing this we're talking about like know, your mom and dad have a really good business kind of thing. Right. Well, if your mom and dad have that kind of good business, then they're doing all right. They're going to buy the A9. Yeah. They will. Right when it comes out in February, too. That's right.

Just in February. That's right. All right. So some of the high value, low risk items in these have been deployed or are being deployed. I thought these were interesting because this this is kind of like what a lot of companies want. Right. I get a bunch of value and I don't really have to worry about it much. So security orchestration and automation and response, they call it SOAR. Of course, they have an acronym. Digital experience monitoring.

Don't know exactly what that is, but whatever. Robotic process automation. Sounds like probably what it is. Virtual machine backup and recovery. Makes sense. Integration platform as a service. Lots of words. SD-WAN.

Software defined WAN is what that stands for. This goes back to your enhanced internet. Enhanced internet. I saw that in the page. Didn't know what it was until I got down here. And then network detection and response, right? Like we've already talked about that. That's your security products and stuff.

So those are all the things that they're investing in that are high value, low risk. Now, the high value, high risk I thought was also interesting, right? Like they they're doing it because they see a lot of value in it, even though they also see potential lots of problems. So zero trust network access, the thing that we talked about earlier that we finally defined that was giving you like isolated level access to applications instead of getting on your network type thing. Artificial intelligence, it operations also known as AI ops.

That's a big one. Cloud application discovery, not 100% sure what they mean by this. I'm sure that I should have Googled it. Hybrid cloud computing makes sense. AI cloud services and cloud managed networks. So all of those are high value, high risk. I got a fun question.

If you were starting a business, what would you aim for? None of these. Profit. Profit. I mean, like if you, so yeah, if you were just trying to make money, would you go for high value, low risk or high value, high risk? I think if you're just starting a company and you look at any of this as to like, we need to focus on this, then you've already failed. You're doing it wrong.

Just get your MVP out there. That's what I would be focused on. Yeah. Make some money. And then learn your mistakes. Yeah. signed up yeah i i think the one thing i probably would look for though if i was starting a business probably i would more than likely go cloud even though it's going to be more expensive but they protect you from a lot of things right so you would hope unlike i think what git lab got hacked

or whatever years ago but if you put your code in github you kind of protected you hope right like you're not gonna have to worry about somebody um ransomwaring your stuff i wouldn't think so i think i'd probably try and go that route just to cut so that i don't have to worry about whether or not people are protecting my internal infrastructure properly and it's the os containers is uh low risk high value or get on it so as infrastructure as code yeah oh you know here's a fun one i noticed um disaster recovery as a service like that seems uh really complicated but you know but it depends on how big your company is but you can imagine how important it is like if you could find a company that would say

hey we're not just like a backup and recovery as a service. We'll get your business going back up. So if you get taken out or your data center goes down or you have some sort of major worldwide outage or something to be able to kind of stand you back up and they just manage that, that's crazy powerful. You could say it's worth a lot of money, but it also seems really hard like as a, to make a product that can do that. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of details you have to get right.

Well, here's imagine something automated doing that for the kinds of things we work. No, I can't even do it once. I'm going to automate it. Here's, here's a fun game though so because you'd mentioned cloud data warehouse as being uh high value low risk but cloud databases are high risk low value really nice yeah it's on the same it's it's the middle middle ring in the same slice of pie why would that be low value isn't that weird like the two those two things are like well that seems contradictory right that's completely backwards that doesn't make sense like i mean all right so

let's let's talk on that for a second Why would it be high risk to have your database running in the cloud? Well, I guess it all goes back to defining the data warehouse. Then in that regard, that's kind of what I'm reading in between the lines here is that this is a database that says DBMS like that. Yeah. But data where,

but cloud data warehouse, they might not be talking about about a relational database like that. You mentioned a Hadoop before, right? So that's where I'm reading between the lines and thinking like, oh, okay. I just don't see how it would be high risk to run your database in the cloud. Unless they're talking now, it could be cost. Because that was one of the parts of risk, right, was the cost to implement. And it is definitely more expensive to run your big database server in the cloud depending on the amount of CPU you need and the amount of storage and all that.

It could be – I mean, we talked about a while back the Stack Exchange or Stack Overflow. The numbers you need to know. Yeah. The, their, their architecture diagram. And the reason why they actually run SQL server themselves was because I think they said that for the cost of their SQL servers,

it would have been, they would have spent more in a month in the cloud than what they were doing. Self hosting that stuff. So, you know, yeah. Uh, okay okay that was a different one that you're referring to the stack exchange uh architecture architecture yeah and and and that's been a minute so i wonder like what that looks like today you know is is that still true

or like you know how much did it change? I thought you were talking about the, remember that the numbers that every developer should know and then there's the new updated version of like the numbers that every cloud developer should know? Yeah. I thought that's the one you were referring to. No, the one I'm talking about is stackexchange.com slash performance. And so they basically run four SQL servers

in two different clusters themselves. And there was a blog article at one point that said the reason we do this is it would cost us more in a month. Or the cost of the cloud for one month would be more than what our entire infrastructure was.

Right? So that could probably be why that, that one line is red. Yeah. All right. Well, how about we, uh,

take a mental break? I mean, mental blocks break. Uh, yeah. You ready? You skipped the thing. Hey,

we need a review. joe actually convinced somebody that a five star is preferred he did he preferred all right we do prefer a five star so if you haven't had a chance and you actually somewhat enjoy what we do here if you wouldn't mind going to cuttingblocks.net slash review and clicking one of those nice little links we have there and go drop us a line somewhere say hi and accidentally click that five star that'd be amazing yeah i forgot i forgot about that his uh the title of his review was something along the lines of uh today i learned five stars are preferred yeah that was nice right nice

so yeah seriously we would we would appreciate it if you do that all right so uh we are it's time for mental blocks because we have different theme song um so this is episode uh twos so jay-z you are first according to trademark rules of engagement you've won like the last five you you that man you won the last one and at least the one before it i forget what your and the one before that for sure i think i'm at three or four man this is this is exciting. So, Jay-Z, you are up first. Your category choices are Coach Beard. Okay. A trashy category.

Landmarks. I am a champion. Or. Huh. In any time. And I say it like that because there's all responses contain a double N. Okay. And the last one is the book with no pictures.

Oh, geez. So I want to coach beard is probably Ted Lasso stuff, right? But it also could be just coach stuff. So I don't know. There was another one that sounded good that I've forgotten. So I guess we're going coach Beard. Well, I can tell you if you won't give me a hint. Okay.

What's the good? What's the other one I should take? I don't know. I can't. Oh, I think double N was the other one I was thinking. Or landmarks. Let's go with double N for 300, whatever. Okay.

Born in the 1980s and early 90s, they're often depicted as tech savvy and maybe just a bit entitled. What are millennials? That is correct. Can you read me a coach beard one?

That was too easy. To keep your beard nice and tidy, Cremo offers a brush whose bristles are made of the thick, sturdy hairs of these wild pigs. What are boars? That is correct. Wow. Okay.

That's not what I expected. Um, yeah, yeah. I was curious about the trashy category one though. Uh, give us one. If walking in this isonian with a used gum wrapper

don't put it in the trash can occupied by him on sesame street it was cookie monster oscar the grouch oscar the grouch oh man cookie monster like i don't want any Oh, man. Cookie Monster? Wait a minute. Wasn't he in a trash can? You might be making. Was he not in a trash can? No. It was Oscar. Dude, when was the last time you watched Sesame Street? Come on.

It's been a minute. Yeah, but I still know the difference between them. See, it's a cookie. That's good enough for me. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. That's amazing. When you have grandkids, they're going to love you. All right.

So, Alan, it's your choice. Your turn. What's new in history? Pop culture. U.S. stamps. Shoebiz. Starts with a silent letter or Thomas Edison starts with a silent letter for three.

Okay. Whether it begins with a silent T or a silent C, it's the title of a former ruler of Russia. Czar. That is correct. Dang. Look at me. Title of a former ruler of Russia. Tsar. That is correct. Dang. Look at me. Boom, boom, boom.

Taking my notes here. Got us a game. Yeah, we do. All right, Jay-Z, this is your chance to walk away with it. Your categories are some serious science, vacation spots, two words, three letters each. That book title is misleading. Brit bits or Johnny Gilbert is the TV character. Not that one.

So do we want to do twos and threes or the serious science? Let's try serious science. And we're tied, so let's go with the first one. I love how the audience doesn't get to see this, but he says that and then immediately hangs his head in shame and like covers his face so that we can't see him because he's like oh i'm gonna do it yeah hiding all right well this one's for you you're right newton's third law of motion is often stated as for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction yes correct dang it i was like what's the question all right that was serious i mean that was that was tough you got me few yeah so uh streaks over

hey i think i think we we need to modify the rules because I like what we're doing here, but I think that we should get the number of points for the level of question we ask. It does make sense. Yeah, so if you ask for a one, you get one point. If you ask for a three, you get three points. Well, we need to go back to that. I like it.

Next time, that is. Yeah, next time. I'm totally fine with that. All right. I don't mind starting another streak. All right. I mean, we can. Yeah can yeah i like that i think we should yep all right i'm done or or what you know one alternative could be that we don't we we still stay with the right or wrong thing but the other person, like if,

if Jay-Z gets it right on the first try, then Alan gets a chance out of those same category choices. Oh, that goes on too long. Oh yeah. Fine. I was also thinking like, uh,

for, you know, the, the person who has two questions has an advantage, right? So what if the other person picked the second topic? Hmm. So, so me picking my category for question two. But then you're just changing who has the advantage because then the second person can be the hardest.

Hardest category, hardest level. I think the number does it, right? One through five, you get the points for whatever you answer. But do you recall, that is originally where we started? We didn't like that. We very quickly didn't like that one. We're going back to our roots. I don't know why we didn't like it. We'll figure it out.

We'll remember. You had the same problem because whoever goes first can low ball it and go for low points just to get points on the board. Then the next person who goes second,

they have to go with the five. What choice do they have? But at least there's some strategy, right? Then the person who's going a second time, they don't have to go as hard to beat. If they did three first in rounds one and three, they would beat whatever the second round was. Okay, let's put a spin on it then. First two rounds are you pick the points, and if you get it, then you get those points, right?

Third round, you do like Final Jeopardy. You pick the category. You pick the question. We have to blind put our wages in or something like that. We have to tell our wages. So you want to gamble your points, yeah. Gamble our points. That sounds like fun.

Well, I mean, what we could do alternatively, like, well, I mean, there is, that is that is a final jeopardy is a trademark thing from jeopardy so we won't steal everything but what we could do is you do the points for rounds ones two and three and then there is a final round and that's the one that you gamble your points on i like that too right i like that yeah you're gonna make. Yeah, we can do that. Uh, if, if we were doing the final round this time, it would be notorious places.

And your, your answer would have been Al Capone played banjo in a band called the rock Islanders at this notorious spot. Somewhere in Chicago. I got nothing. I haven't looked at the answer yet but i'm gonna bet alcatraz no oh wow really rock islanders oh that would make sense wouldn't it dang look at this you never get to answer questions uh it is alcatraz i am wow nice yeah very good yeah because i mean how can you hear like the rock and then and he was like you know the most famous inmate so yeah yeah so what are we talking about next uh yeah so uh i ran into an interesting problem recently which i'll describe here in a

second then i'll tell you what questions it's led me to uh so uh i have a vanity domain or whatever you call it like jozak.com and uh that's been my primary email address what we call those vanity domains that's what i call them forever really yeah i had a blog there i haven't really updated in forever yeah so it's been kind of nice so like people know my name it's easy to say hey my email address is blah blah and um it's i've been using it for primary for years and you know your your email is super important uh you use it to log in to tons of things and use it to reset passwords a lot of times like um verification codes things like that like i if you transfer a domain or something or uh one-time passwords will get emailed there stuff like that so your

your email is super important and it's it spreads out to all sorts of places well i started getting bounces on sends to gmail addresses and so i looked and google instituted a new policy looks like a couple weeks ago where they require some domain there's a couple different ways to do basically a dcam record or spf record in your resource so like a custom resource associated with your dns right and it basically just uh it limits who can send emails to your it limits what mail servers will accept from your email sent through your... It limits what mail servers will accept from your email sent through your domain.

It's a security feature. It basically verifies or gives a trust level to your email. Yeah, so I would say, hey, the only people who could send emails through jozak.com servers are jozak.com email addresses.

Super easy. So i was like okay well that's easy enough to add i found a sample rule i just need to go add this custom resource and that's something in dns if you ever set up like a website or you know done anything like that super easy basically go and you pop down you know you select your type of record you paste your thing in there you go it takes like 24 hours to roll out everywhere super easy so i go to my google domain which is where i bought the domain through and try to do it and uh the spot in google domains where you add your custom resources is gone for me and there's this big message about how they're transferring because we talked about this google domains is they're selling they sold off that portion of the business to Squarespace and they're transferring the management over to Squarespace but they haven't done it yet. So they're in this weird

transition phase where you still manage your domains through Google domains but they got pop-ups everywhere telling you that it's going away and this is transitioning and eventually you need to sign into Squarespace. And so I suspect that there's something about that transition that's keeping me from updating my domain records because the box is not there. I found the screenshot, I've watched videos on YouTube

of how people add custom resource records for their domains. I can do it on other domains. This domain is missing. And you know, the problem with Google is, one of the problems with Google is you can't call them can't call up the googles and ask them what's going on there's no live chat feature there's

no customer service i found a little box for sending them feedback and i told them you know a little piece of my mind that's it right so disappears goes off into the ether yeah so there's nothing i can do they're like you know i've paid them they've got my domain there's something i can do about it so what i've done is basically transferred my domain somewhere else you know and i'm going to go have to manage it there but that could take up to 15 or five things up to five days it'll probably go through faster than that uh but it's just a pain in the butt but it kind of got me thinking is that why jozak.com is down right now is it now yeah it's just a squarespace the dummy page oh no yeah well i guess so i guess i need to that stinks

it's annoying i've been i feel like it's deflated is what it is like i didn't mean to burn the bubble like i thought you i thought that's where you were going with all of this now i feel like i just gave you additional bad news yeah and i was would you rather play mental blocks yes and of course like all this happened like it all like i figured it out when i sent someone an email saying i wasn't going to make it to something and then they text me you know later the night i'm supposed to be here saying hey where are you i'm like i sent you an email saying I wasn't going to make it to something. And then they text me the night I'm supposed to be there saying, hey, where are you? I'm like, I sent you an email. And guess what? It didn't go through. I was in the middle of traveling out of state

and doing some other stuff. I was spending a bunch of time in a car and I'm trying to do this D-chem stuff on my phone on the side of the road. It's super annoying. So I eventually just gave up and decided to live without email for a little bit. But when finally got back you know to a computer like i literally legitimately cannot edit this so i just wrote my domain i'm going to fix it but here's my point

other than being frustrated that i can't send the email to gmail because of google domains uh that's pretty irritating uh but i got my thing it's like well you know having my own domain it has been kind of a pain in the butt there's been several times when like custom custom emails i've had this thing for like 15 years or 20 years or something uh it's just been a pain i've switched email services several times i've had issues with the domain sometimes i'm having an issue with the domain right now where it's going to a landing page i'm kind of tired of messing with so i want to just get an email address that is

going to be stable. It's going to be safe. I would like to own it. I would like to not worry about it being pulled out of, uh, from under me, but that's kind of hard to choose. Like you kind of have to decide who you're going to invest your email address in and stick with them because it's really tough to change. I was curious what y'all about who you would use if you had to do it over again, who you would pick to have your primary email address with. Man, I've thought about this so many times, and I've never had a good answer. I've almost paid for one of those um email hosting services that's why it's now and it's messed up oh are you really yeah but it's because i can't modify

the custom resource records which is on the domain level not so it has nothing to do with email service he was oh he was using google you're using google for you jozak.com email address ah i got you oh that see that's even worse i don't through i don't i don't know yeah i don't know so okay if i understand the spirit of the question though like would you i think what you're asking is ultimately like would you get if you had to tell somebody like oh hey hey, go set up a new email account, should they do a Hotmail account or a Gmail account versus, oh, just get your own domain name and set up the DNS so that it goes through a Google or whatever, right? Yep. And now that you know, just how important the role email plays, like in your adult life, if you were like coming into adulthood right now, what would you do for

your like one and done email address? Google, Gmail, Google and Gmail. Oh, that would have been my answer until I started having problems with them. So, yeah, but no, you're in the third category though, where yours isn't Gmail. You're talking about like you have your own domain and you're using a, well, what did they used to call it back in the day? Like Google for small businesses or G suite. Yeah.

Yeah. Like that's what you're talking about. So that's different. Deprecated. So it's, it's on, it's on borrowed time anyway. Yeah.

That's one of the things that sucks about Google. And we've talked about it so many times is the fact that they just sunset stuff. Like it's nothing like they don't care. Yeah. Um, I mean like, man, I'm torn on it. Like I love Gmail just for the fact that it's really good at weed, not the garbage. Right. Like that's, that's one of the reasons why I love it.

I hate it because Google has all my information. Like I, I straight up hate that. Like I don't trust that company. Um, it's why I went away from Android, right? Like it's why I'm on iOS now. So I would be tempted like go daddy. I just searched and go daddy has one 99 a month and they manage it and they're not getting rid of that service, right? Like they're not like Google where they try things out and they're like, rid of that service, right? They're not like Google where they try things out, and they're like, well, this isn't my bread and butter. I'm not doing it anymore.

This is how GoDaddy makes money is with domains. So I don't know. Maybe I'd do that, but then who knows? Is their filtering as good as Gmail? That's the one thing that I would love to test out is who does as good of a job making sure I get the messages I care about and back burner the garbage. Right. Like that's, that's what I'd pay for. And I like having my own name because if, uh, you know, Google just bans me or whatever, like I could just move my email somewhere else and I'm not like totally hosed on all these things.

I can point it wherever I need to point it. I the best of breed whatever services i want downside is i don't want to do that anymore i'm tired of dealing with little problems even if it's rare it can happen at bad times like when you're on the road or you're dealing with contract type stuff where you've got important emails you're sending and assuming that people have gotten them yeah man i thought maybe like if i had to start over again i'm like well i do like microsoft and that people have gotten them. Yeah, man. I thought maybe if I had to start over again, I'm like, well, I do like Microsoft, and I feel like Microsoft's got a good track record of being backwards compatible and friendly to their customers.

So I thought about, I think you have Outlook.com addresses or Live.com addresses. I probably have several of each. I could just swap over to. iCloud's nice because they protect you, and you can do that cool thing where they kind of mask your email address a lot of times so if i started using that gmail is very convenient they're like probably the number one email host right at this point yeah i i would i would definitely my preference would absolutely be uh google Google Gmail specifically. But the one downside is that because it's so wildly popular,

the chances of you getting a name that you actually like or want, like you're going to be there for days and hours trying to like, okay, does this one available? Yeah. Is this one available? Is this one available? Yep.

So, yeah. J's itzitna at Gmail. Yeah, I'm with you, man. That one's tough. And you're right, right? Like, you probably use that email address for everything. And now that you're having pain with it, everything's going to be a problem. Everything.

And if I switch to Gmail, and Gmail, like, uh, just pulled, pulled my account, cancel my account. And like now all of a sudden, like I'm calling my bank because I can't get the one time code. I'm calling my whatever. Like, I don't want to do that. You know, I've got, uh, like hundreds of accounts. Your, your Gmail account is also not working now. You're saying, no, I just live in fear of that. Oh, you know, like there's been, um, I remember some game developers,

it was the guy from braid maybe or something like got their account pooled, never figured out why they were never able to get it restored. They weren't, I weren't able to sell like some, some of the things that they had like on various storefronts and stuff, uh, because they're the game that they were selling was associated with it. So it was just like a, this big bad thing.

And even though they were, you know, presumably making a lot of money for Google, there's no telephone number to call.'s no nothing you know well google did send out a notice that they were changing their policy on like when they would um retire accounts so like you know if you have a period of inactivity for uh your account is, then they did change that recently. But I mean, it's a pretty long period, though. It's not like it's going to be a week. But yeah, man, I don't know.

Even the cloud storage, that seems like that'd be easier, but it's not like you guys remember when Amazon was offering like photo storage and you could like tack it onto your prime thing, whatever. Yep. And you could upload, you know, your,

you know, a hundred gigs of photos or whatever. And then they sunset that service because they weren't making any money off of it. And it's like, man, like you're not even safe in paid solutions like what you're doing, Jay-Z,

even with large companies. So it's, it's tough. I think what you said about Microsoft makes sense. Like they don't have, they don't have this pattern of constantly shutting down services that they started up. Like it's not in tryout mode, you know? So that one definitely feels safer, but I don't know, dude, this, this is a tough question. It makes me wonder about,

about what I do in some situations. Yeah. I still have hundreds of photos on Flickr. I should probably do something about that. Huh? Probably. Oh yeah. I wrote down a couple other things.

So I just mentioned like, you know, a couple other things like services I've kind of partnered with over the years. So I mentioned Google Domains. I've got a ton of domains that are Google Domains. I'm not too enthusiastic about it right now. And I also don't want to go through and transfer all of them. It kind of stinks.

I don't know that I necessarily want them going to Cloudflare since they're going somewhere. Like I've heard Cloudflare. Sorry, I meant to say Squarespace. I'd rather have them under something something like cloud flare or whatever, but, uh, transferring domain,

uh, syncs. It's not fun. It would, it would, it reminds me of those, like, you know,

when we're talking about the, trying to set up a Gmail account and, you know, having to like randomly pick a name and you're going to get something awful because all the good ones are taken, you know, because 8 billion people on the planet have at least one Gmail account. Yeah.

Do you guys remember the Saturday night live skit for Dylan Edwards investments? No. Okay. I'll give you a leak. I'll include it in the, in the notes, but there is a Saturday night live skit for this investment company with a normal sounding

name dylan edwards investments and in the commercial they're like we were a little late getting on the internet but that's why you can find us at www.clownpenis.fart yeah that's right and that's the kind of that's the kind of name that you're going to end up with you know for your your gmail because you're going to be so late getting to it. Yeah. So, yeah, transferring domains stinks. Cloud storage would be an absolute pain if you needed to. I think you're okay with Google Drive or OneDrive or Dropbox, iCloud.

Or all of them. Yeah, those should be fine. Who just has one of those now? Come on. Say what? Who just has one of those now come on say what who just has one of those like everyone's got at least two yeah we got lots um backups uh like you can do like backblaze or yeah one of those yeah that's something that's like uh it's not hard but if you've got like a family's worth of devices all back backing up to backblaze and they all have the clients installed and configured and stuff and you decide

you want to switch over to Mozi or whoever else is out there now. It's kind of a pain. It just kind of stinks and there's going to be a period where you're either kind of doubled up or you're going to go without backups being available. I will say for backups I do my NAS at home.

I don't know if I, I don't, I don't know if it's, I don't want to pay for the cloud storage. It would cost to get the backups that I need, or I just feel better having my private stuff locally. I'm not sure, but I definitely use my NAS for that. Yep.

And here's some funny things too. Like, I don't really think too much about like backing up, like my contacts, for example, on my phone, you backing up like my contacts for example on my phone you know phone number stuff like that because you know it's associated with the phone and like it's easy to get a new phone and just transfer it over and stuff but if google just pulled my account just banned me uh like that would sink so i'm gonna like print that out you know like how do you back up your phone contacts you know like i'm sure there's some way but unless you're doing it on a schedule, unless you're using some other service that you have to remember to do, it's just kind of scary.

So like there's all this stuff that you've just kind of over time like invested in. You've let these companies like more and more into your life, and it's hard to get them out and hard to protect yourself about, you know, if they ever abandon you. That's true. I hadn't even thought about that. That's why you synchronize to all of them, and then you't have that problem right i mean you're not wrong i wasn't kidding either yeah no i'm i'm using multiple of these services now it's kind of hard to even figure out the the passwords is also i mean we all talked about last pass i think did all three of us abandon last pass i'm on bit warden now

i'd like you are yeah i know joe zach is yep yeah um it part of it for me wasn't just the fact that they had the breach thing and that whole unknown whatever had happened there for a while it's also the fact that they kept jacking the price on me it was like really dude like you've tripled the price on me in a few years like that's that's not more money to make it more secure did you hear about our breach yeah god yeah so so that that part is kind of what pushed me over the top was like okay you got a breach you're not being honest about it we'll say for a while and and you're also raising the price on me every every chance you get um i'm gone i'm i'm already over the subscription model of our world now where netflix is jacking the price every

other day chick-fil-a is jacking the price every other day like and i see chick-fil-a as a subscription because most families go there five times a week so But no, I mean, it's seriously gotten hyper annoying with everybody just jacking the prices up. And it's like, at some point, I'm going to cancel all of you. You know that, right? Yeah, you know, YouTube, I did their service for a little bit, so I didn't get ads. It was amazing. You could turn the screen off on your phone, too, so you could just listen to your pockets wonderful uh they upped the price to 16.99 a month oh it went up from 9.99 yeah oh it went up from 9 to 11 and 11 to 16 like no no man is this like but okay in

fairness is this boomer hour is this is this because like we're just gonna sit around the campfire and like complain about like yeah remember when youtube was only nine nine and out an hour i mean okay so we're complaining about someone so it was legit though right like when when google goes out and kicks out a service from underneath you and now you can't do what you need to do that's a legit gripe but in all seriousness like the the price the price increase i think I just read an article that Amazon Prime is now 180 bucks a year. Yeah. Like a good prime.

I didn't even realize it. I hadn't paid attention, man. Like I'm paying double what I used to for the same thing. Yep. So part of this is too, I switched from Android to Apple. And so I started looking at some of my other services like well you know like we already had apple tv so i can kind of combine and get news and apple music and then it's gonna be cheaper than my spotify plus calculations yeah but i hate apple music i couldn't do it i don't like it as much as spotify

however however their sound quality is way better that was like i just you know like for some reason uh and i had this problem years ago and i forgot about it until it started happening again like uh it likes to kind of like go on to yeah spotify kind of will go on to the next thing after you've listened to an album or something and it's like usually relevant and cool and whatever i find new stuff that way for some reason like apple music keeps going back to like the same couple songs all the time so it's like i'll just be listening to something i like and then all of a sudden like this song and it's literally the same song that you used to do years ago uh it's a song called baby blue sedan every time it comes on now it's like my spine just

freezes i'm like wow i hate this song so much because for some reason apple music just plays it all the time. It's like its default song. I just can't take it. I don't know that I've had that problem, and I've never heard that song. Well, in fairness, Outlaw's been using Apple Music for like the past three decades, and his playlist is the size of our drive storage space. Yeah, I think it's just because like i had bought like two or

three albums on itunes like you know way back in the day and this is like one of them and happens to be alphabetically the first song so maybe because i don't have playlists maybe because i haven't listened a lot like it just kind of keeps going on to other things like you still listen to whatever but oh man i mean i i actually i actually have exactly what you want what you were describing that you would want, where it's like when it does go on to the next song, I've had like my kids in the car, and they're like, oh, my God, Dad, this is a great playlist.

What did you make? And I'm like, I didn't even make this one. We ran out of my playlist. Yeah, I have a similar type thing because I've been using it for a while now, and I'll search for songs to listen to. If you say, Hey, play, uh, or play songs for me. Like you can basically just say that and it will go find interesting things and it does a better job. But if you haven't spent much time on it, it is awful. Like it really, it frustrated me for a couple months before it got to the point where I was

like, okay, it's getting better so yeah i don't remember this um so i had an ipod and a nano back in the day oh yeah i got i got one free and uh and i put a couple songs on it and for some reason the shuffle on it no sorry it was i had the ipod shuffle if you remember that i got one for free the stick or the stick yep okay you could like wear it around your neck or whatever. Yeah, it was tiny. And the shuffle was terrible. For some reason, it would play the same songs in the same order a lot. Well, not every time, but there was something about the randomness that just was terrible.

And so it just brought me back to all those memories. And it's the same albums that I listened to back then, like 20 years ago, whatever. And I'm like, i can't take it well since we're since since we are in boomer hour if you remember uh or maybe you don't because you you're talking about the shuffle on the original ipods it was it was actually like a big to do like i remember people like uh you know in the computer science, you know, industry, we're like, uh, taking them apart and trying to reverse engineer it to figure out like how, how random was the random number generator in the iPod so that it could pick the next song or,

or like, you know, how, how was that process working? Because people were like fascinated with it when it first came out with the random feature on such a tiny little device that's funny you know they didn't have because it didn't have network connectivity either yeah speaking of another company that does suck quite a bit like

google does you know where they sunset all their things why can apple not just get on the bandwagon with everybody else and choose the same freaking cables that everybody else in the world has like they're starting to mix them huh like usbc like usbc like they've started trickling into some devices like seriously man like quit making up your own stuff but isn't it on all of them now usbc is on all of them now the new watches come with it the iphones come with it the airpods are now uh the charging cases are usbc and the ipads are usbc ipad pros are usbc the ipads are lightning i believe so my my iphone 13 pro max whatever it's also lightning so they've just started trickling them in to most everything but that's what i'm saying

like why the iphone 15 going to usbc was a big deal like that was the first of the iphone series okay usbc's been out for a minute right like why why apple do you have to be that way like they drive me and say okay okay but i could flip the script on that too, because in fairness, the idea was a connector that was, you know, it didn't matter which orientation you plugged it in. It worked the same either way. And lightning came out first, and it's smaller. So why didn't the industry pick up on it? Now, I realize now time has passed, and that's what I was about to say. So they came out with a faster standard, but when lightning originally came out, you didn't

see anyone jumping on that bandwagon either. So I just, I, I, I feel like, I feel like Apple is always trying to play the proprietary game when it comes to that kind of stuff. Right. I mean the, the doc, I remember people were buying things to put in their house, right? Like building into the walls to be able to put their iPod doc to dock it. And now they're like, Oh, here's lightning. Okay, great. Okay. Now here we are at USB-C and it's just like, man, would you guys please just everybody get together? You're all computing platforms, choose a standard and and use it that'd be amazing but that's coming though i mean that was the eu basically forced that oh is that what happened yeah okay they they they the whole charging thing of like having multiple charging adapters it was

a eu requirement that that i guess is they were able to get away with for so long but that was my understanding so they did something good because the the cookie pop-up on every website it's not good for the eu gdpr is a success everybody loves it don't even try to deny it you you know you love it i think i think even my google drive document was like hey will you accept cookies on this? No. All right. Okay. I think we've boomered this one enough. Oh, boomer hour's over?

Well, that's it. Yeah, I think we're done with boomer hour. That's a shame. That was fun. I'm just, I'm still mesmerized because, like, did they not put USB-C on the iPads? No. You're listening to boomer blocks yeah right yes they did on some some yeah right the 10th generation ipad is usbc and the ipad mini

so yeah i was right they've they've basically moved their product line to usbc so they're starting now yeah lovely no they've been start they've been transitioning to product line to USB-C. So they're starting now. Yeah. Lovely. No, they've been starting. They've been transitioning to it because the iPad pros last year. No, no, no.

Like my iPad pro I've had for a couple of years now. It's a USB-C. Okay. Yeah. My iPad pros are USB-C. The regular iPads weren't. I mean, you gotta,

you gotta love the fact that now think about it this way. I had this epiphany the other day we're still on boomer hour i'm sorry i know you tried yeah i know you tried but this is what this is how boomers work this is we we come back one more thing one more thing so no but i had this epiphany i had this epiphany the other day where it was like we finally okay there was a period of time where like you had your Dell laptop and you would go traveling or you would go work at a friend's house or whatever, right? You, you would go somewhere with your laptop and you're like, Oh crap, I forgot my charger. Well, let me run to

Best Buy. Well, of course they don't have the very specific charger that I need for this particular laptop model, whatever it is. is right but now we've evolved to a time where like everyone uses uh is using usbc as the as the standard for the cable connection so now it's like oh i have my dell laptop but i forgot my charger i can go to best buy and pick up an apple charger to charge my dell by usbc like as long as that's pretty great right right as long as you get 140 watt yeah why i mean you can get the 140 watt god what you gonna pay for that from apple that's gonna be as much as a computer but y'all remember like i went to um i went to out of state, and I was staying somewhere. And somehow I managed to bring the charger for my dock and not for my laptop.

And it looked similar. And I got that it was a Dell laptop. And I couldn't get another charger. I had to go to Best Buy, and I bought one that fit. But it literally wouldn't charge the battery. It would just keep it where it was at, and I kept giving warnings. And I looked it up, and sure enough, it was at and i kept giving warnings and i looked it up and sure enough it was dell blocking it uh like they uh they don't support non-dell chargers and i couldn't get one like didn't have you couldn't go into the store for their i think it was latitude at the time

so i was like out of state like well i'm guess why i maybe i have to not work this week i don't know the 140 watt uh adapter is 99 from apple by the way that's not terrible that's what i used to pay for the regular one so yeah so that's what i'm saying like you know that that would be on par like if you were to buy a dell one you know they're not bucks hold on let me rephrase that because to be clear adele does not make power adapters she She makes other great things. She makes songs. Great music, but power adapters are not one of the many things that she produces. Hello?

And that wraps up Boomer Hour. Alright. You know what? I'm now going to add a new section to the show notes from now. Just so you two have a space where it's a. Just so you two have some, like a space where this is, you know what?

It's a safe space for you to, to talk. I need an outlet. Without judgment. You know, it's a judgment free area. Yeah, absolutely.

I don't feel like this was judgment free. Was it? Yeah. I think it was. It's good enough. All right. So for the resources, we will have the one link to the Gartner,

not Gardner, the Gartner document and, and, and, uh, the, uh, YouTube video. YouTube video.

Oh yes. The YouTube video. Dylan Edwards investments. Yes. Yep. Yep. All right. But, but we're not done yet.

It's time for Alan's favorite portion of the show. It's the tip of the week. That's right. Let's do it. Hey, so Dave Follett, super good Dave, mentioned to me the other day this tool called SlideDev. So S-L-I dot D-E-V. We'll have a link there in the show notes. And what it is, it's a presentation tool,

kind of like a PowerPoint type thing that you can do, you know, once based on view VJS. So, so node, you can basically do like an NPM install to get started. The syntax is Markdown based. It's got themes,

which are really nice, but also because it's got, it's basically a website. It's got some really nice stuff kind nice. But also because it's got, it's basically a website. It's got some really nice stuff kind of built in that you can do, like just web type stuff, like interactions, animations, and just some like normal type web stuff that just works there. And of course it's the web too, so it's also portable. So you can deploy it on a website or something really easily,

much better than the PPTX file. And yeah, it looks really nice. And it's got some really cool stuff, particularly with like the console we were showing you. So like you can have it kind of like type out the commands and run the commands and kind of show it in the console. And it looks really nice if you're doing some sort of talk or something with technical details

where you need to like run commands or whatever. So that was really slick. And I'll have a link in the show notes. I mean, I love it, but I just don't know why anybody would do it over just creating uh a powerpoint or uh what's the other one down yeah i mean i wouldn't even do powerpoint at this point like there would be you know like a google presentation or something yeah like if you talk to me about a you said pptx and like i kind of melt it again i'm like back to boomer hour like why wouldn't you office 365 man like

keynote keynote was the other one i was thinking if you're presenting at orlando code camp you know you need to be worried about whether or not you're gonna have internet access so you know yeah so why not just do power or Keynote? I'm just saying. Those stinks. I got to NPM and hit my presentation. Hold on a second. Oh, man. A $3,000 laptop can't run PowerPoint very well.

You know, the thing is I actually do like this. I think it's pretty cool. It is cool. And we love you, Dave. But I promise you there is an extension for VS code that does it inside of VS code. It's probably easier. Guess what? I don't need anymore.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just, anytime I look at something, it's the whole reason why WordPress exists, right? Like I,

we've talked to several people who do podcasts and they're like, yeah, you know, I write the HTML for the page and I'm like, oh, no. If I've got to go in and code the content for an episode, there's no way we're ever going to do it. Like, I'm not going to get it done. If I can't copy and paste something and it just turned into a web page, it's over. So I don't know.

Yeah, you just have to restart it every 60 days. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Hey, look, that web page. It's over. So, I don't know. Yeah, you just have to restart it every 60 days. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Hey, look. That's easy. That's easy. All right. So, I've got a couple.

Man, you can actually open PowerPoint Envious code. See? Look. Look, man. That's what you do. That's what you do. All right. So, I've got a couple here.

And one is actually because Jay--z i don't think we mentioned this you are now a certified kubernetes oh uh so and i renewed my google uh cloud certification it's the baby one all right no i shouldn't say baby one it's the the lowest level cloud associate whatever engineer oh i thought you did the k one. Okay, well, at any rate. Now we're judging. This is what reminded me. Anyways, so if you go to kubernetes.io slash training, we'll have a link in the show notes, you can go get certified in all kinds of cool Kubernetes stuff. So you can be Kubernetes and cloud native associate,

cloud native security associate, application developer, administrator or security specialist. So there's all kinds of things you can do. And I could almost guarantee you that having that on your resume wouldn't hurt. So, you know, go check that out. They also have free training resources there at the top of the page. Go to or maybe they're free. I don't know. But they say go to course.

So I would check those out. Would you want to go back to a non-Kubernetes development environment? No. I like Kubernetes. I kind of love it a lot. Right? Yeah. I had this thought as you were talking about go get this.

And I'm like, yeah, but who's going to want to get it? And then at the same time, I'm like, man, what kind of paycheck would i have to be offered to be like hey come work over here on-prem servers right yeah i mean i will say though i think the three of us have a pretty good working knowledge and understanding of kubernetes but man if you were to look at it you know how like anytime you got interviewed and they'd be like hey rate yourself on a one to ten on javascript right and you knew if you said ten you you were about to get blasted i feel on kubernetes as much as i've worked with it i'd probably be like four maybe five you were saying that and i'm like man

i feel like we only scratched the tip of the iceberg on it. Because it's like, well, from what perspective are you thinking about? Because it's not like we run the actual hardware, the node in the cluster or anything like, you know. So there's a lot of like nuts and bolts that, you know, are abstracted away from us. Dude, the networking is insane. The security stuff can be insane. There's so many things that if you actually scratch a layer or two deeper than just what you typically do in your developer stuff,

man, it gets so deep. I mean, four might even be generous, right? I might even be generous, right? Like I might even be like three. Yeah. And then they'd be like, well, do you know how to deploy something? Of course I know how to deploy. Well, you know how to do this? Of course I know how to do that.

But the other stuff, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, is there like a Kubernetes for certification for noobs? Because I will definitely go and get that certification, even though I've been using it like for the past several years now, I absolutely love it. I, you know, bang my way through it, you know, on the command line, but I, there's still like, I don't know. I just know where I go look for things. Right. I'll do it if you do it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's do it. All right. And then I had one other one and this is only because I'm about to go on an adventure this can be really fun and I want to take notes on this adventure I'm going on

and it there was a thing there was a thing that I wanted to do is I want to take videos of things and I want to be able to take notes you know like if I video something that I see then I want to take notes on it right and then maybe I want to take, then I want to take notes on it. Right. And then maybe I want to take a picture and then put some notes on it. And I was looking for things that do it. And one note will kind of do it. And, and I know that, um, Evernote, yeah, but then I, well, Obsidian wouldn't do it very well. Um, so I'm talking about like on a phone, right? Or maybe on a tablet. And I started looking at notes on iOS and it's actually really, really good, really powerful. So if you've never used it, you could actually be taking notes in the thing and then

hit the plus and say, all right, take a video or a photo with the camera and then you can just point it in there, do the thing and then hit, all right, done. And it'll embed it in the note and then you take some more notes after it and you can keep doing the same thing. And I found out even a bunch more stuff. So I have a link to a YouTube video. If you're halfway interested in being able to take notes and not have to download some other applications and kind of stuff, if you have an iOS device to watch this video, the guy has all kinds of things like you can set up smart folders. So if you put a tag in your note, it won't move your note from where you originally created it, but it'll show up in these smart folders because like I'm going to go be looking at speakers and

amplifiers and stuff. And so if I do hashtag DAC or pound DAC, then I can have it show up in the thing where I'm actually interested in DACs, right? Or if I'm interested in amplifiers, pound amp, and it'll show up there. So highly recommend watching the YouTube video. I put it on like 1.75, whatever. It's good enough. You'll be able to blast through it and you can learn matrix style. And it was, it was really good. So highly, highly recommend actually taking a look at the little plain looking notes app and iOS and actually using it. Cause it's really good.

There's like a handwriting recognition feature too. If you use a pencil pencil. Yep. If you use the pencil, it'll actually translate your handwriting into the text. If that's what you want to do. Yeah. It's,

it's pretty good man yeah also a convenient way to share information too yeah with with uh other ios users if you want to do that um okay so for my tip of the week um this is now in fairness, uh, I haven't, I forgot. I meant to go try this tool out beforehand and I forgot. So I apologize for that. But, um, I said last time that I wanted to find a Docker from the bot. I wanted to find an equivalent of get from the bottom up, but for Docker. So I was calling it Docker from the bottom up.

And so I've been like on this hunt, scouring the internet, trying to find something that's on par because we really loved that series. I mean, I think I felt like it really explained to get very well. What was the guy's name? John something. Anyway, so I wanted to find something similar to that and then one of the articles that came across they were talking about uh this tool for being able to explore the docker uh your docker images at the various image layers and i've done this in the past by using like a docker inspect or uh you know history to try to like uh you know you know, analyze what's happening, but this is basically like a two E called dive that you can, you can navigate through the layers of your Docker image and see what's what and what's where.

And so, uh, I'll have a link to the, uh, the GitHub, uh, repo for this. And hopefully, uh, uh, the GitHub repo for this and

hopefully it's good. Like I said, I haven't had a chance to use it. So in fairness. Hey, I'll put the guy's last name there for you in case you wanted to. Oh, yeah. John.

I remember now it was such a struggle when we were doing this series. I want to say it was Vigli. There it is. Oh, my God. My bad. Got it. Oh, God. You don't know how much I'm sweating, man.

I actually felt his sweat across the Internet there because we have enhanced Internet. That was the enhanced Internet. Yeah. Yeah. And then just a just a callback to the previous tip of the week because you're asking you're talking about the disabling links in iOS. So we talked about that in episode. I believe it was 169. It was one of the tips of the week. And the trick is

the, the one thing that kind of sucks to your credit is that it's not like you go poking through the settings and you disable it, uh, there instead you have to like preview one first. So you have to know that like the one that you're about to preview is safe. And then to on the top right, there's a link to, or a button to hide the preview. And then once you do that, anytime you like do a,

a tap and hold or force, is it force or just like you press on it anymore? It's just tap and hold. Yeah. Then, then it will, uh, you just show you the the link instead so dumb yeah but but there's definitely force touch on that though like

that's how like this is there yeah they kind of got rid of all their force touch interactions right like they they tried it for a hot minute and then they were like, yeah, we'll just go back to long holds or whatever. But it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not a tap though. There's definitely like, yeah, like on the flashlight, for instance. Do you know that doesn't do it either? I can't even remember. Are there any apps that do it anymore? No, I don't have anything that force touches anymore.

I mean, you definitely get the haptic feedback, but yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah. I think they got rid of the force touch, even though it still is screen sensitive. I think if you like play the piano on, I can't even think of the name of it anymore, but their, their music at garage band. Yeah. I think that it will actually,

I think it's touch sensitive. Like if you push it harder, it'll actually play harder. Now you'll, you'll be sitting there tapping on it all night cause it is actually fun to do. All right. Well, uh, you know, thanks again for listening to another, uh, you know, fun upset of boomer hour see you next time hey no no yeah so um you can subscribe to us on itunes spotify i think it's funny that my google just responded to okay boomer that's pretty great that's awful hey also if you haven't left us

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