Coffee Break Spanish - Season 3 – Lesson 13 – Coffee Break Spanish

Episode Date: July 19, 2011

In episode 13, Mark and Alba discuss social networks including Facebook and Twitter and their value for language-learning. In addition, in this week’s intermedio, José discusses effective ways to s...ay you’ve had enough of something, and Alba talks about the film Habana Blues. Grammar points discussed inlude subjunctive after el hecho de que, preferir que and the imperative in the vosotros form. Please note that lesson 13 of Season 3 was originally known as lesson 313 of Coffee Break Spanish. We have renumbered the lessons of each season as lessons 1-40 to make things more simple for our listeners.This season of Coffee Break Spanish features a total of 40 lessons, all of which will be included in the podcast feed. Just stay subscribed to the podcast to enjoy each episode. If you’d like to benefit from video versions, lesson notes and bonus audio materials, you can access the premium version of Coffee Break Spanish in the Coffee Break Academy.Don’t forget to follow Coffee Break Spanish on Facebook where we post language activities, cultural points and review materials to help you practise your Spanish. Remember - a few minutes a day can help you build your confidence in the language. Access the Coffee Break Spanish Facebook page here.If you’d like to find out what goes on behind the scenes here at Coffee Break Languages, follow @coffeebreaklanguages on Instagram.You can also check out our Coffee Break Spanish Twitter page and the Coffee Break Languages YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Showtime Spanish episode 13. It's hour to pass to the next level, of the ensignos to the spectacle. That's the telon.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Well, how we are we good, good days, Mark. Good days, Alba. Dime, has passed a good a good time? Well,
Starting point is 00:00:24 yeah, the truth is that I've had been a very interesting. And you? Yes, but this time I've been
Starting point is 00:00:31 a lot of how you know you know? Well, a little more, thanks. Well, very well,
Starting point is 00:00:38 me I'm alex. We've received a correau this time of an old person that we're
Starting point is 00:00:43 to know how we've our our good proposals of a new so. So Alva,
Starting point is 00:00:48 what how do you do you have to admit that I'm not I've done to
Starting point is 00:00:54 I'm less. And you inorabena thank and you Mark, what you,
Starting point is 00:01:01 quite quite with the of the gymnasio and the Pistina, but could
Starting point is 00:01:07 I'd go a more frequently, the really. What you mean? Well,
Starting point is 00:01:12 three or four times a week in a week one or two. Well,
Starting point is 00:01:17 it's a bad, not a bad one two times. Well,
Starting point is 00:01:21 we're going to start the episode of today. This this time we're about
Starting point is 00:01:31 a little of the social like, for example, Facebook
Starting point is 00:01:36 and Mispace and other things like. Oh, okay,
Starting point is 00:01:39 you have Facebook, Alba? Yes, like all the world, I think. And you
Starting point is 00:01:45 can't explain us what it is. Well, to be, let, do you know, Facebook is
Starting point is 00:01:51 a red social that you can be able to be to be a through the
Starting point is 00:01:57 messages, photos, and videos that you can't do you can't do you
Starting point is 00:02:02 do you know, for example, if you go to a a festival and you you're
Starting point is 00:02:06 you can't photos of your friends, you can put these photos in your
Starting point is 00:02:10 Facebook and to share with your friends and then if your people
Starting point is 00:02:16 do you put them their photos and you can share those
Starting point is 00:02:21 together and you do you I mean I'm like Facebook I
Starting point is 00:02:27 like to I'm got to I love the
Starting point is 00:02:30 I put me in contact with my my friends of today,
Starting point is 00:02:34 my friends of now, but also of my old friends that I'm very much time.
Starting point is 00:02:41 For certain, I'm, I'm in contact with my infaner of my infancy,
Starting point is 00:02:47 and a through Facebook me have invited to a dinner to re-encontrars to chat
Starting point is 00:02:52 and, well. Very very. And this is a scene virtual? No,
Starting point is 00:02:57 no, it's to go to go a restaurant. Very well, so that
Starting point is 00:03:01 you do Well, a let's a bit more. What do you think about Facebook?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Well, I mean I like Facebook. I like to share my photos, to share my experiences
Starting point is 00:03:14 and all this with my friends. And my friends are people with those I'm
Starting point is 00:03:20 or are family, or are friends. And for so I love to share
Starting point is 00:03:25 my good moments with them. In In fact In fact,
Starting point is 00:03:28 I'm very people that add without to know and the fact I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:03:35 that I'm my friends and I am I. What is that is that a sometimes
Starting point is 00:03:42 it's a way to a person that you want to be a person,
Starting point is 00:03:47 and for that's there's Facebook and in their Facebook have
Starting point is 00:03:55 many many accept to all the world that know they're and also to know the people that
Starting point is 00:04:02 they're not not quite and then this is the problem of Facebook but there's
Starting point is 00:04:08 another problem also is the fact that you can you may spend much
Starting point is 00:04:13 time in Facebook no? Yes, I've had been to study for
Starting point is 00:04:18 an exam and no important I'm I'm talking we've
Starting point is 00:04:25 talked a a web social is Twitter, or in Spanish Twitter. And a moment, what is what's the word tweet in English is what they're doing the birds when can't.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Ah, like a gorgeo. Exactly. And, well, the idea is that there are many people in all the parts of the world that aregeing that are saying what they're doing. And with Twitter,
Starting point is 00:04:54 you can follow to the people, to your friends, and this means that you receive your messages and they're getting your messages.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you know, and for me, what good of Twitter is that you
Starting point is 00:05:07 can't see what you know what's doing the people. I'll a example. Ace
Starting point is 00:05:13 little when came it on the Rue Hudson, the notties took a rato
Starting point is 00:05:19 in emitier the reportages about what was going, but there a man that was a point
Starting point is 00:05:25 to in ferry, and he saw the plane, he saw a photo and he called on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:05:32 and in a moment, all the users of Twitter, for all the world, they were
Starting point is 00:05:37 they were this photo, and the fact, I was I was in London, and I
Starting point is 00:05:42 was what had been before that was in the television the news.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And this is a show of, how is the, the periodism
Starting point is 00:05:51 of the person, no? Yes, Yes, yes, now now I
Starting point is 00:05:55 have clear what is Twitter and well, and now I'm why
Starting point is 00:05:59 Radiolingua has also so that so so you're so our
Starting point is 00:06:03 people, you want to receive our messages, our notties,
Starting point is 00:06:09 we can continue to through www Twitter.com bar
Starting point is 00:06:15 radiolingua Okay, it's time now to move on to the resume we've
Starting point is 00:06:27 We've talked today a little about the networks Alba us has explained what is Facebook it's like
Starting point is 00:06:34 a page web where you can't share your photos, your videos with all
Starting point is 00:06:40 his friends. Also, also, they can organize events, for example,
Starting point is 00:06:45 the dinner of the class of Alva. Mark has said that he
Starting point is 00:06:50 doesn't Facebook, but to certain point, he It also
Starting point is 00:06:53 communicate with his colleagues of his family, and his friends,
Starting point is 00:06:58 but not they are the relations exclusively virtual virtual
Starting point is 00:07:01 we're We're we're on that Facebook is a fun
Starting point is 00:07:07 of distraction and we have admitted that when
Starting point is 00:07:10 we we spend a time on the page
Starting point is 00:07:13 and finally Mark us have explained the vent
Starting point is 00:07:19 the Twitter and has done as example the
Starting point is 00:07:22 rapid distribution of the news of the incident of the avion that's
Starting point is 00:07:27 the that's and you see you're in Twitter then
Starting point is 00:07:31 we're let's let's go back now now well Alba
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm I'm I'm this this time and I'm
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm I'm I'm the middle of the video
Starting point is 00:07:52 the dinoes you have a one I have
Starting point is 00:07:57 a movie a interesting, that's a Bona Blues. Okay, and is a movie Spanish?
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yes, the director is called Benito Zambrano. But, the movie no has no, it's
Starting point is 00:08:10 a place in Spain. The movie is a Cuba. Very well, then,
Starting point is 00:08:14 then we do you do the thing? The protagonists are two friends,
Starting point is 00:08:20 Rui and Tito. And they're ganars, Rui and Tito, they're in Cuba, and they're going to get
Starting point is 00:08:26 the life with a group of music. So, each one of them of their family. It's
Starting point is 00:08:32 saying, Rui is a married and has two children, but is his woman who he's
Starting point is 00:08:38 his children and he is a very concentrated in his career professional. And then
Starting point is 00:08:45 there's that Tito that is a little peculiar. The two two
Starting point is 00:08:53 And one day, some producers Spanish, they're they're not to do things.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But resulta that the producers not were water clear.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Okay. You can't explain us in other words, for
Starting point is 00:09:06 favor? No were transparent or not were not
Starting point is 00:09:09 any good intentions and the things. The things of the
Starting point is 00:09:15 movie? The movie about the relationship, and always present during
Starting point is 00:09:21 the the movie, the reality political of Cuba, because it's a movie of 2005. It's a very recent.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Okay. So, then you recommend to all those us oldenets that were in this movie?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yes, because because it's very entertaining and it has, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:39 you know, the accent Cubano, the accent Spanish. Well, I don't have
Starting point is 00:09:43 seen this movie, then I see it. Well, I'm that you know,
Starting point is 00:09:49 and for both both others, also. Well, very well. Now, it's toke Jose.
Starting point is 00:09:54 You're ready, Jose? Well, yes, I'm sure that I'm good, Mark. And, I'm Alba.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Oh, Alba, me has recorded much of some the many, well,
Starting point is 00:10:07 almost two years. Some vacations fantastic in a place precious.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I Encant Cuba. Well, well, well, well, well,
Starting point is 00:10:16 well, to this intermedio the Showtime Spanish. Here is
Starting point is 00:10:20 where your Spanish further to the next level and show you how to sound well Spanish. Well, we're going to say to sound well Spanish. Today, I'm also going to talk to relations personal. Maybe that are virtual or reales. That's not important. Well, we know a some people or we've been in situations that are a little, well, no,
Starting point is 00:10:45 a little molest, or fastidiosas. That means annoying or irritating. Well, well, well, I'll be to show what I'd say in Castellano, in Spanish, about these persons or situations that molest, and these are some phrases that me love much, because they're very well,
Starting point is 00:11:05 are very divertidas. A ver, the first phrase is, I'm still as to the gorro. That means I've had enough. I've had up to my hat. I'm still the goro. The second phrase is
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm still a coronilla, which is another way to say I've had enough. I've had up to the top of my head. I really like the sound of these phrases, don't you? Okay, now it's your turn.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And if you can, I'd like you to repeat them after me. Here we go. I'm going. Estoy hasta el gorro. I'm I'm still the coronilla. Well, now you can tell people exactly how fed up you are.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Isn't that great? Well, and that's all in this intermedio of Showtime Spanish. As always, it has been a pleasure and now I'll give me to Mark and Alba in the studio. Well, now I'm
Starting point is 00:12:14 to make my friend of Alba in Facebook. Until the next, and adios. As someone who's working on Spanish at an intermediate, level, you may also be interested in our Coffee Break Spanish Magazine podcast. This is a podcast for intermediate learners, and we focus on texts, which allow you to develop your linguistic knowledge and also your cultural knowledge. We have presenters from Spain and also various parts of Latin America, so you'll be building your understanding of different accents throughout the series.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Find out more about the Coffee Break Spanish magazine at coffeebreakacademy.com. Welcome back to Act 2 of Showtime Spanish. This week there were a number of things that I'd like to pick up on. Indeed, there were many interesting points in today's conversation, but these are all covered in the notes. I'm going to pick out four or five points that I'd like to talk about to give you a little more information. The first of these is possibly one of the most difficult things we've covered so far in Showtime Spanish.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's the phrase, the fact that. Now this causes learners of Spanish all around the world a great deal of difficulty knowing exactly whether to use the subjunctive or the indicative after this phrase because there are some situations where the subjunctive is more common
Starting point is 00:13:55 and other situations where the indicative is more common. Now before I go on I'd like to make it very clear that if you're worried about which one to use I would go with the subjunctive. Okay, but there are some situations where, if you like, it's correct to use the indicative. The first time it was used in our conversation, I said, Me Gusta el Echho de Kueva, ponermermen in contact with my amigos.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So I like the fact that I can, Pueda, being subjunctive, I like the fact that I can get in touch with friends, Ponermine in contact with my amos. So here I'm saying me gusta el etcho de I like the fact that can put me in contact
Starting point is 00:14:45 I can get in touch with so in this situation there is an emotional involvement I am saying what I like about something. Me Gusta el Echo de que now compare that to what I said later when I was talking about the problems of Facebook
Starting point is 00:15:01 and I said is, so I'm saying it's the fact that you can you may last spend much
Starting point is 00:15:09 time in Facebook. Now here the fact that you follows is. So I'm saying
Starting point is 00:15:15 it's the fact that you can spend or you can waste rather lots of time in
Starting point is 00:15:19 Facebook. So I'm dealing with a fact. There's no emotional attachment to this fact.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Now that's obviously a little different from the situation earlier where I was saying
Starting point is 00:15:29 I like the fact that I can contact my friends through Facebook, where I was expression and emotional connection. Now, the fact is that even Spanish native speakers don't use these rules exactly to the letter, and they'll very often use the subjunctive, where perhaps the indicative should be used. I would suggest that you go with the subjunctive, if you can remember what the subjunctive form is,
Starting point is 00:15:55 and otherwise, don't worry too much about this. I thought it was worth pointing out particularly because there were two different examples of this in the text or in the conversation that we had today. Now the second point I'd like to look at, you'll be very pleased to know it's much, much more straightforward. It's the verb Opinar. Opinar. Opinar. Opinar.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Now, it's a great verb because you can use it to give your opinion. What do you think of this? The word pensar obviously means to think, but pensar is one of those general verbs it refers to any kind of thinking, really. So when you want to ask someone's opinion about something, you can use the Opinar verb. So, What do you think?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Or perhaps even clearer, what is your opinion? Okay, on to our next point, and that is where I said, My amigos are the persons with those cuels travajo. Now, in English, we might well say something like, my friends are the people I work with. However, it's probably better English to say, my friends are the people with whom I work.
Starting point is 00:17:07 That may sound a little formal, and the usage, indeed like Spanish usage, does vary across the English-speaking world. But if you think of it as the people with whom I work, it really helps you when it comes to translating this into Spanish. Las personas, con las quales, literally with the witches, if you like,
Starting point is 00:17:29 con las quales travajo. And it's las quales here, because it's las personas. My
Starting point is 00:17:35 amigos are the persons with what I were to talk about, for example,
Starting point is 00:17:41 the friends with whom I live, that would be Los Amigos with Los
Starting point is 00:17:47 Quales Vivo. So it changes to Los because we're talking about Los Amigos.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Los Amigos con those qual is Vivo. the people with those work. So sometimes speaking proper English helps you put things into the other language.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Okay, onto my fourth point today. And that's the use of in the conversation I said the truth is that prefer that Facebook be a little private between my friends and you. I prefer Facebook to be something private between my friends
Starting point is 00:18:23 and me. Now, preferro that as you can see it is followed by a subjunctive and it's virtually identical to the situation with quero que that we've come across in previous lessons so for example how would you say I want you to come to the party
Starting point is 00:18:42 you would say I want to bengas a fiesta so bengas being subjunctive from benir I want that you come subjunctive to the party I want to bengas
Starting point is 00:19:00 a fiesta and exactly the same thing happens with Preferio que it's back to this whole idea that there are two subjects here I am doing the preferring that you come to the party
Starting point is 00:19:13 so the two different subjects mean we need a subjunctive I prefer you to come to the party but ifierro que vengas at a fiesta or indeed I prefer you not to come to the party I prefero
Starting point is 00:19:29 that no vengas a fiesta There's more practice of this in this week's Encore podcast The final
Starting point is 00:19:37 thing I'd like to talk about today is the use of the Vosotros imperative form so this is when you're
Starting point is 00:19:43 giving an order or a command to a group of people whom you know the example in our conversation was
Starting point is 00:19:51 when I said seguinos follow us when we were talking about Twitter Now, we'll come back to that in just a moment, but let's take, for example, a straightforward A-R regular verb.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Ablard. So, Ablad, meaning to speak, of course. And when we say speak to a group of people, with whom we would use the Wosotros form, we would say, Ablad. And that last letter there is a D. So it's that soft Spanish D sound, Avlad. And it means speak, as in the imperative command. form speak. Avlad
Starting point is 00:20:28 Spanish. Speak in Spanish. So, A.R. verbs take the ad form. E.R. verbs take the ETH form. So it's E.D. at the end. Take, for example, the verb comer to eat.
Starting point is 00:20:45 So if you're telling a group of people to eat, you would say comed. Comed. And you've probably guessed already that I-R verbs take Eid at the ending. in this imperative for Vosotros form. So, Seguir becomes Seguid. Follow.
Starting point is 00:21:08 As you know, Vosotros form is not used throughout the Spanish-speaking world. It is the absolutely natural form in Spain to talk to a group of people that you know, or, for example, a teacher talking to a class, listen, and repeatid, and repeat. But for those of you who are more used to Spanish from certain Latin American countries, you're less likely to hear it on an everyday basis.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I think at this level, however, is important to recognise it. Just one other thing about Seguidh here. We followed Seguid with Noss. So you can actually combine the pronoun, Noss in this case, with the imperative form, to get Seguid Noss. Follow us. Seguid Nos. Okay, that's where we're going to leave these explanations for.
Starting point is 00:21:58 today. Now, as usual, there is a full transcript of every single word of Spanish spoken in this episode, including full notes and explanations of all the language used. And you can find out more about that at our website at showtimespanish.com. Just click on extra materials. Well, we've terminated yet for today. Alba, you've got got this episode. I've been askeded, and, of actually, I'm going to go to be my Facebook. A bit if you have messages. New ones.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And Twitter? You're going to A bit of a bit of a Bistach? I'm very interesting. Perfect. Well, then, much thanks.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And, of you also. That's all a moment phenomenal. We'll see the Saturday. Ciao.
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