Coffee Break Spanish - Season 3 – Lesson 18 – Coffee Break Spanish

Episode Date: August 5, 2011

In episode 18 of Coffee Break Spanish Season 3, Mark and Alba talk about the advantages and disadvantages of buying things online, and share their experience, both positive and negative. In this week�...��s intermedio, Alba presents the city of Granada in the south of Spain, and José talks about ways to describe someone whose head is always in the clouds. Grammar points covered include the personal a, present subjunctive, double negatives, and the expression dar ganas a alguien. Please note that lesson 18 of Season 3 was originally known as lesson 318 of Coffee Break Spanish. We have renumbered the lessons of each season as lessons 1-40 to make things more simple for our listeners.This season of Coffee Break Spanish features a total of 40 lessons, all of which will be included in the podcast feed. Just stay subscribed to the podcast to enjoy each episode. If you’d like to benefit from video versions, lesson notes and bonus audio materials, you can access the premium version of Coffee Break Spanish in the Coffee Break Academy.Don’t forget to follow Coffee Break Spanish on Facebook where we post language activities, cultural points and review materials to help you practise your Spanish. Remember - a few minutes a day can help you build your confidence in the language. Access the Coffee Break Spanish Facebook page here.If you’d like to find out what goes on behind the scenes here at Coffee Break Languages, follow @coffeebreaklanguages on Instagram.You can also check out our Coffee Break Spanish Twitter page and the Coffee Break Languages YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Showtime Spanish episode 18 It's hour to pass to the next level of the ensayos to the spectacle That's over the tern Well, Alba, How is you, Mark?
Starting point is 00:00:18 Hello, And you, Mark? Well, the truth is that me duels a little bit of the garganta. How, how is? Yes, I hear your voice very profound
Starting point is 00:00:27 today. I'm the body white of showtime Spanish You're my first, my last, my everything. We're here to Mark in a plan
Starting point is 00:00:37 way. Yes, yes, sure, the truth is that me dole much,
Starting point is 00:00:42 but I'm here for you're so I'm to try to talk to talk, but it's
Starting point is 00:00:47 a little more more than normal, of the normal. Very well, well,
Starting point is 00:00:53 today we're going to talk of a thing that Mark and I have been
Starting point is 00:00:57 about a last a little. Discutient because we're not we're
Starting point is 00:01:02 we're we don't put we're going to agree in this. To be
Starting point is 00:01:05 to see you know I'm going after you know, after when I'm
Starting point is 00:01:16 when I'm thinking in all the time I'm doing my factura and the accounts and
Starting point is 00:01:23 all this I, I saw in internet a scanner that can be
Starting point is 00:01:29 to use for the recives and the factures so I think, what idea
Starting point is 00:01:35 but so high then then I'm to buy me
Starting point is 00:01:39 this scanner It was the day 29 of December, and, you know, it was a year ago the summer past. Wow. More than eight, eight semanas, without this scanner and without the possibility of doing all the counts.
Starting point is 00:01:56 But, well, I'm not quite content with the company. And no, I'm going to mention the name of the company here, but not I'm not going to be content. But the problem is that when I tried to to call to someone.
Starting point is 00:02:12 No, there was nobody that could be to be able to be I'm
Starting point is 00:02:15 well, no see, I think that you're doing this factor
Starting point is 00:02:20 of risk no? Yes, but it's the first that I'm
Starting point is 00:02:23 my time, I never never I've never I'm
Starting point is 00:02:29 yeah, but it's a big you know, the fact, I've never
Starting point is 00:02:36 been a thing, I've been been a disaster. In what manner?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Vend us. Well, I've bought a book and me I'm brought here
Starting point is 00:02:47 that's the I've had been the end of the end of a and so
Starting point is 00:02:53 for that I'm that you think it's much. I'm I've I've
Starting point is 00:02:59 I've people who have in the islands of the west of
Starting point is 00:03:02 Scotland and they're they're they're like the Tendas
Starting point is 00:03:06 the Londres or that or the And for them, you're trying for internet is perhaps the only way of
Starting point is 00:03:12 because so they're the same selection, the same gam of of things that we've been quite near the city, no?
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah, but then all the world does all right have them have been tried. What thing most curious,
Starting point is 00:03:28 no? But Alba, for example, if I go to a library, a me can't, the libraries,
Starting point is 00:03:34 I can pass hours ogeando the books and the revistas and what there.
Starting point is 00:03:39 But if, for example, I want to buy a book, it's that the
Starting point is 00:03:43 library no, no, no, I'm well, but that has
Starting point is 00:03:47 happened always. And always you can be in the library,
Starting point is 00:03:52 I can't try a copy a example of a example of
Starting point is 00:03:56 that I think that's you you go to you do this
Starting point is 00:04:01 book to the library and how they they're they they're
Starting point is 00:04:06 they by internet to the library, but you could you do you, you know, directly from the house.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And another thing that is very important for me is the fact that, for example, in the libraries online, you have the
Starting point is 00:04:23 comments of the people that have read the book that you want to or you want to
Starting point is 00:04:29 do you want. There is a question. But I think that thinking that
Starting point is 00:04:36 you're that you know, because, a bit, Mark, and I'm sure that's going to
Starting point is 00:04:42 this. I'm sure that you also you want to go to a time, take a
Starting point is 00:04:48 coffee, go to the second plant, ogear the revist of the
Starting point is 00:04:52 vajas. Vena. Yeah, you know, and you know, and you know, and you
Starting point is 00:04:57 know, I'm here I'm well, but there's there You know,
Starting point is 00:05:04 well, and another question, Mark, because you only do you only do you do you or things for the
Starting point is 00:05:13 computer or you're going to other products to the time? When we don't have much time we do
Starting point is 00:05:21 we're doing the business but the fact is that I don't because always get things
Starting point is 00:05:26 that you have been or some product caducated a exactly and
Starting point is 00:05:31 and rope Ropa? No. Never. Cases, never. No, I preferial to go to a Tienda and try me a rope and assure me that is my
Starting point is 00:05:41 tally. Okay, important. It's true that with the ropa is very dangerous, no? And for certain, now that we're
Starting point is 00:05:48 talking to the I'm, I'm going to tell to, well, I'm going to tell to all a lot
Starting point is 00:05:54 a new I was talking with an friend my and me He told that he has bought a
Starting point is 00:06:01 vestido an vestige for internet to assist to a new this fiesta. This is a
Starting point is 00:06:07 a fiesta something something that's something. So, I'm I'm,
Starting point is 00:06:12 well, and how is that's you've bought for internet from from
Starting point is 00:06:16 not there? And she she me respondio that she, I'm not going
Starting point is 00:06:22 to get to the that was a same his own a
Starting point is 00:06:27 normal, Alba. A me also me to presume of motelito, you know, Mark, there's a
Starting point is 00:06:34 little no, I'm sure that's very but you know, but you
Starting point is 00:06:39 have to give me to give me a new of Italy I'd to get
Starting point is 00:06:44 to get to get to it's not. Well, not it's a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:06:48 So, you have a idea, and I'm also
Starting point is 00:06:52 can't make to be that I do it You'll be, you'll be a, you know, Mark.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yes, without, without. Well, pass us to resume of today. Today we've
Starting point is 00:07:08 talked of the advantages and the inconveniences to buy for internet.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Mark almost never has had been problems, has had been
Starting point is 00:07:17 books and the order of the many of the times get
Starting point is 00:07:22 well, and it is the solution perfect. But, In fact,
Starting point is 00:07:28 Alba not is very convinced has had been bad experiences
Starting point is 00:07:32 with their so so she she prefer to
Starting point is 00:07:36 the things we We're we do that we're we're
Starting point is 00:07:51 we're in that's the thing that's a because we're prefering to go to pass the the time to a library than to give a book
Starting point is 00:08:02 for internet. Vena, let's say, with the Intermedio. Well, welcome to the intermediate of
Starting point is 00:08:21 this episode of Shuteime Spanish. And in this episode, Alba, us will to talk
Starting point is 00:08:26 to a little a city that he good. Well, well, I'm
Starting point is 00:08:30 to be to the Granada, the Granada that is in the South
Starting point is 00:08:34 of Spain. So, so I I'm going to talk to three aspects that
Starting point is 00:08:38 I'm really to this city when the city when the first I'm so that's
Starting point is 00:08:43 we're we're going that's the aspect historical that is called to tell you're
Starting point is 00:08:49 the Alamra so it also you've heard of her yeah
Starting point is 00:08:55 that's a monument historic protected for the UNESCO is super
Starting point is 00:08:59 important the Alambra is really impressive Just I'm going to say that are some
Starting point is 00:09:05 those palaces Arabes that are like they're of a quote of a other other zone
Starting point is 00:09:14 that not you can't you can't the barrio of the albaicin this is very
Starting point is 00:09:20 typical for their architecture and its straights callyehuelas not you
Starting point is 00:09:26 you can't you also you also also I'm also I'm also I'm
Starting point is 00:09:31 much a Fiesta always and a good price. Compared with the
Starting point is 00:09:35 rest of Spain, is a place. We're say, between commies.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm an example. In Granada, when you want to get a
Starting point is 00:09:43 beer, you tryen the and a tap. It's that if if you
Starting point is 00:09:50 beves much cerebs, you could you can eat very very
Starting point is 00:09:53 very. The temperatures in Granada are quite curiousas. In
Starting point is 00:10:00 In the winter, it's a lot and in the winter it's a lot tremendous, as I've said. The temperatures are around the 35,
Starting point is 00:10:08 even the 40 degrees in the summer. And to start, I want to say you're very nearer
Starting point is 00:10:14 the port of the mountain of Sierra Nevada, which is very famous for those magnificas
Starting point is 00:10:21 pistas of ski in winter. So, so can ski in winter, and in
Starting point is 00:10:26 vera, to enjoy the cold and the Sets Arabes. Perfect. Well,
Starting point is 00:10:31 I'm pendent and go to get to Granada. No, I know Granada, never
Starting point is 00:10:35 I've never you know you're very good. Well, well,
Starting point is 00:10:39 that I recommend. Well, much thanks, Alba, and now he
Starting point is 00:10:44 to come to say, Hello, Alva, and all to Mark, and
Starting point is 00:10:48 all right and all you all you all the intermedio of
Starting point is 00:10:53 Showtime Spanish, the part of spectacle, where we learn phrases authentic, to help us to pass to the next
Starting point is 00:11:01 level. Today, I'm a little fed up. I'm a little fed up. I'm a little bit art, because, a I mean, I'm the impression of that never, nobody me listen. And is that, I guess,
Starting point is 00:11:16 I have to have to be the patience of a saint. I'm a professor, and I'm a lotleteastern, with people young. So, a
Starting point is 00:11:26 sometimes, I'm going to some of them, is that you're always in the clouds. Which means
Starting point is 00:11:32 you are always in the clouds, that is not paying attention. You're always in
Starting point is 00:11:38 the nubes. Other times I'm saying, Ablar Contigue is like about
Starting point is 00:11:44 about with the power. Which means talking to you is like talking to
Starting point is 00:11:49 a brick wall. You're not listening. Ablar with contigo is like
Starting point is 00:11:53 about to talk with the Pard. Well, now it it's a repeat to me.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Vena, Compartee my frustration. You're all ready? Vena, let's. It's that
Starting point is 00:12:05 you're in the nubes. Ablar with you is like about with the Pard.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Well, now, now you can't keepers when never nobody
Starting point is 00:12:22 you can't you and it's over to Mark and
Starting point is 00:12:27 Alba in the studio. A salute to all us and until the next. Adios. As someone
Starting point is 00:12:46 who's working on Spanish at an intermediate level you may also be interested in our coffee break Spanish magazine podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:53 This is a podcast for intermediate learners and we focus on texts which allow you to develop your linguistic knowledge
Starting point is 00:13:00 and also your cultural knowledge. We have presenters from Spain and also various parts of Latin America
Starting point is 00:13:06 so you'll be building your understanding of different accents throughout the series. Find out more about the Coffee Break Spanish magazine at coffeebreakacademy.com. One thing, Jose,
Starting point is 00:13:31 we're not sure, ah? Well, much thanks a Jose, and, and of Alva also. We're now into Act 2 of this week's Showtime Spanish, and as usual, there are a few points that I'd like to pick up on.
Starting point is 00:13:46 This week, there are three things I'd like to mention, and the first of these has to do with the personal A. Now, you already know that in Spanish, when the object of a sentence is a person, then normally you have to use what's called the personal a. For example, I see Carlos, beo a Carlos. Carlos is the object of the sentence, the person I am seeing in this case. Beo a Carlos. Now, if I had said, I see the book, I would have said meo el libra. In this case, El Libro is not a person, so there's no need to have a personal a in there.
Starting point is 00:14:38 That should be straightforward enough. Now, there are exceptions to most grammatical rules in pretty much any language, and we're going to look at one of the exceptions today with the verb tenet. Now, normally, you don't use a personal a with tenet. For example, if you say, I have a brother, you would say, Tengo an hermano. You don't say, Tengo a, an hermano. So, normally, you wouldn't use a personal a with tenet.
Starting point is 00:15:13 However, as I explained, there is an exception. And the exception is when you're talking about having someone here with you. For example, if I say, Tengo an Ehrmano, it means I have a brother. But if I want to say, I have my brother here with me, then I would say, Tengo a my hermano, Aki conmigo.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Tengo a my hermano, Aki conmigo. Alba said in the conversation today, We've got Mark in plena form, today. So we've got Mark here today on top form. And the other situation where you use the personal a with Tenet is when you want to infer that there's a strong emotional bond
Starting point is 00:16:07 between yourself and whoever it is you're talking about. For example, I have friends. But if I take a problem, So if I have a problem, I have my friends. And there I'm reinforcing the emotional bond, Tengo a misamigos. In a sense, it's really like slightly different nuances of the verb Tener to have.
Starting point is 00:16:41 If you're being fairly mundane and talking about what you have, in this case, friends. I've got friends, Tengo amigos. but if the having is more emotional and it's more inferring this connection between you and another person or other people then you're going to use Tenor a Tengo A Misamigos
Starting point is 00:17:02 Now if you make a mistake with this it's not going to make a huge difference to the meaning that you're conveying but like so many things in language if you can use it correctly and accurately then it will really help to build your range of expression. Now the second thing I'd like to pick up on
Starting point is 00:17:22 is the use of the verb Discuter. Discuter is one of those verbs that's a little difficult because it means something slightly different depending on this situation. If the verb is used transitively, that means it's used with an object,
Starting point is 00:17:40 then it means to discuss something. For example, we discussed the problem. We discuss the problem. However, if it's used intransitively with no object, then it can have the meaning to argue. So, we argued this morning. Now, if you want to argue about something, then you can use discutir for algo. We've discussed for la decision.
Starting point is 00:18:16 We argued over the decision. or we argued about the decision. So this is another example of a word which does change slightly in the meaning, depending on the way in which it's used, here, transitively or intransitively. We'll be coming across more of these in other episodes. Now, the one other thing I'd like to look at in this episode is the whole idea of double negatives.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Now, in good English, if you like, I don't know anyone is perfectly acceptable. It means that you don't know any of the people in a particular room, for example. If we were to say, I don't know no one, which is very common in particular regional varieties of English, it is, in fact, wrong, because as we know, two negatives make a positive. So I don't know no one means I know something.
Starting point is 00:19:17 someone. However, in Spanish, it's not wrong to use a double negative. In fact, it's very natural to use a double negative. And there were a couple of examples in this week's discussions. Let's start with a simple example, and that would be the translation of exactly what we've just said in English. I don't know anyone. In Spanish, that would become no, conosco, a Nadia. So literally, I don't know no one. And notice also the personal a in there too. No connozco a nadie.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Because even though no one doesn't really exist, it's still a person, if that makes sense. No connozco a nadie. So we have the no, which is of course making the verb negative, and also Nadiae, meaning no one, which in itself is a negative. But it's perfectly normal, indeed it is the only correct way to say that in Spanish. Now there was another example of this when Alba was describing her friend who had bought a dress online from Italy for her party, and she said, No, I want to find herself, encounterse con nadie.
Starting point is 00:20:38 So she didn't want to find herself, encounterarse, con nadie. with someone or face to face with someone she didn't want to find herself face to face with someone and of course we went on to find out that with someone wearing the same dress that's why she ordered the dress from Italy however here think about this
Starting point is 00:21:02 no carea encounterse with nae that literally means she didn't want to find herself face to face with no one but of course in English That doesn't make sense. So we have to say with someone in English, but Spanish has the double negative. No carea encounterse with nobody.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And the other example of a double negative in today's program was when Jose said, Nunca Nadia me escutia. So this literally means never no one listens to me. However, if we apply English logic to that, then that means people do listen to him. Never, no one listens to me would suggest that someone sometimes listens to him.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But in Spanish, we need the double negative. Nonka, nadie me scutia. And we would translate this as no one ever listens to me. So sometimes when we're translating, or working out what something means, we have to not only translate the words, but the concepts as well, and this double-negative concept
Starting point is 00:22:19 does not translate into an English double-negative. Indeed, it's a perfectly natural way to phrase particular things in Spanish. Well, yeah, it's for today, another episode of Showtime Spanish. I was a point to say Coffee Break Spanish, and, you know, know, you know, know, is our program,
Starting point is 00:22:44 a little more for those who are learning Spanish, but at a level more basic.
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Starting point is 00:22:55 there's a thing that, for example, you know, you know, notos that are
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