Coffee Break Spanish - Season 3 – Lesson 38 – Coffee Break Spanish

Episode Date: January 10, 2012

In this episode, Mark is joined by Sofía from Argentina and Ana Isabel from Ecuador. Language points discussed include the difference between si no and sino, using hace with a time phrase, and voseo, the use of vos in Rioplatense Spanish. Please note that lesson 38 of Season 3 was originally known as lesson 338 of Coffee Break Spanish. We have renumbered the lessons of each season as lessons 1-40 to make things more simple for our listeners.This season of Coffee Break Spanish features a total of 40 lessons, all of which will be included in the podcast feed. Just stay subscribed to the podcast to enjoy each episode. If you’d like to benefit from video versions, lesson notes and bonus audio materials, you can access the premium version of Coffee Break Spanish in the Coffee Break Academy.Don’t forget to follow Coffee Break Spanish on Facebook where we post language activities, cultural points and review materials to help you practise your Spanish. Remember - a few minutes a day can help you build your confidence in the language. Access the Coffee Break Spanish Facebook page here.If you’d like to find out what goes on behind the scenes here at Coffee Break Languages, follow @coffeebreaklanguages on Instagram.You can also check out our Coffee Break Spanish Twitter page and the Coffee Break Languages YouTube channel. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Showtime Spanish Episode 38. Well, hello to all. Here we are with another program of Showtime Spanish. But, after some months that no publicamos an episode, and I'll explain why. As you know, in this time of Showtime, we're doing a tour

for the countries of Abla Hispanic in South America and in South America. And we've planned two episodes Argentinians for the 38 and the 39. Disgracially, the idea fracos, because at final the person with we were to grab,

well, I've been also I've been been I've been been having in the last times. Maybe you know

know you know, but we've launched another part of the company radiolingua, or

radiolingua. Now we can offer materials to the institut for Radio Lengua Schools.

And the other The other paper of this new part of the company is to organize activities linguistics with colleges. The semester past, I accompanied a, almost 30 students of an institute here in Scotia, to the Parliament European in Strasbourg, in France. The students were going to participate in a debate in the Parliament with no the young of the other states members of the Union European.

And for casuality, I talked with some professors of Belgica that

explained that in the group there had two students of interchamio

not I wanted to grab a conversation with a

and for you so I present this conversation

now and you going to know two different

of the Spanish how it in South America I

hope that you I'm going to I'm I'm I'm and Anna

Isabel and Sophia and Anna Isabel are of different countries Sophia, where is you?

I'm of Argentina and Anna Isabel I'm I'm I'm a Ecuadorian

And so we're in Estrasbourg in this moment and what you're doing

here in Estrasbourg we're We're We're We're a project of the

European that's Europeans, know a little more of the Union European.

But you know you not is European? No, I am a student of interchamble

I'm in Belgium, I'm with Rotari and well, I'm here passing

a year and I have the opportunity to come to and I Isabelle?

In my case, it's equal even I've just just two months

not I'm so so far Sof Sof so you're

both in Belgium? Yes, we're we're both in different families

but with the with the same organization that is a Rotary. Very good. And then, what you think, Belgium?

The fact, it's very beautiful, the people is very amable with us. The language is very similar to the Spanish.

So, it's actually, a little to learn, and more than to understand, and I'm trying, is a beautiful.

The French is really nice. The people is very amistos, are people very abertas. In America of the South, we have a image of the Europeans a little more free, but there are to

come in Europe to see that we're not reason and that they're not people like us, they're like us, and, well, we're all both equales. Exactly. And, to be, I never have been in Argentina, or in Ecuador. And if it were as a tourist, what would I encourage you guys

visit? A la Argentina is great, there's all. In the South, there's a lot of South, there's There's the need. It's what the most is the world for all the climate, but

also there's a north where it's much hot, and where there's the cataratas of the Iguasoo, and there

also there's a train that's the train of the nubes because it very high, and well, things

really things in Argentina. And in Ecuador? Well, we have three regions, the coasts,

the sierra, and the ocean, you can't find millions of things different in each

one, it's completely the climate, although it's a super-chiquito, but we're from

animals exotic, and getting to some playas beautiful, full of sun. And the music Ecuadorian, how is? Well, we know the music that's that's heard in all

Latin America, in all America, that is of the strangers, let me know the same, but our music in nativa, national, is very folkloric, very very, very allegre, with

much color and sound. And in Argentina? The Argentina is characterized by the tango. In Buenos Aires, they're justly the tango, which is a music very linda. And, well, and, and, also, too, what, the music international,

also, what, is the music of Central America, what it's regett, sauce, merengue. And there are differences between the Spanish that you use, you're not?

Yes, there are little differences that when one how you know, it's not but are different things that

we're different names. For example, I'm know a camisetta. And for

me that's a remera or I have a camper and I have a jacket.

And expressions Argentinas? Well, the words, we're many,

but if not we don't we say much Che, Che,

like the Che, Che, I, Che, what And in Argentina, no we say, what you,

but what is you, but what is you? Quintam me a little more of this, because that's, I don't understand really the you say, you

do you say, you're saying, you're saying, you are. Yes, it's a variation in Argentina, and so they're all

the country, and it's almost that instead of, well, you is boss, and for there can be

a little, when we when we're in the accentuation, more than than, but it's

practically the You can't then conjugate the verb Start? I am, you are, you're stas,

we're, we're still, you're still, they're, but you never use the you're not, no,

never, but that's characteristic of all America Latina, it's only in Spain that you

use them? And in Ecuador, what use in the Ecuador, we use the two,

you, and you you're even. Although you're of different countries,

you understand No? We understand perfectly even though there are that vary

in the name, but not the significant. So, no, no problem in the

rato of to talk or understand us to us. Yes, that's and the

accent, if not we're good, and if for example, today, you have

talked with some some yes, but the most well, it's

like, it's always it's always and in the college we we're we're

the of the Spanish, we're the more well. Well, much

thanks. And I desire you desire in your distance in Belgium. Much

thanks and thanks for giving us to learn the opportunity to to teach to the

people that there are little differences but that that is encirran in a

part of the language, that the language is great and can learn

And now, all the world will know their voices. Passes then to the Intermedio. A-per-to-what-you-counter, this week. Hello, Mark. Today, I see in good company. You always have the ability to know about you're all about you guys. What envy you do?

In the south of Spain, where I'm going, we're saying, you're instead of you. But our own-yenters not should be preoccupation because, as we've seen, in your conversation

with Sophia and Anna Isabel, we understand perfectly. Yes, without any problems at all. Sin problem, no. Well, today I'm going to show us a pair of phrases

that have to be with the time. The weather. Because here in the Reino United, that's the United Kingdom. in the Reigno, in the Reigno, yet begins to refreshcar and the

winter is irremediablyably. Sin embargo, the first phrase has to be with the verano, and not the

winter. Because in the verano, when it's much cold, the phrase that we say a

in Spain is, it's a cold that you torras, which means literally it's

roasting hot. It's a cold that's a cold the color that torras the second

phrase is for the thing is it's a frio which is very colloquial and means

it's freezing cold it's a free that it's a free that

well now now now now, now, as you to keep

repeat after then me. Are you Let's let's let's

let's go it's a cold Well, you'll dejo with Mark and his new new friends. After pronto and adios. When you're not listening to Coffee Break Spanish,

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It's our mission to help you turn your downtime into your due time. Well, if it's a yearning in England where is Jose I'm to

admit to you're not here is that it's that's two days that no

it's and that gives us quite a good start on the first thing that I'd

like to talk about today ago before two days that no

power to know literally that makes two days that it is not

stopping raining or stopping to rain literally. Now of course in normal English we would say it's not stopped raining for two days. And this links back to what I said right at the beginning of the episode. I said, I said, Aze Algonas semanas that no publicamos an episode. Literally, that makes some weeks that we are not publishing an episode. Or in better English, it's a few weeks since we've published

an episode, or indeed, we've not published an episode for a few weeks. So it's important here to remember that if you begin to translate literally from English into Spanish, you're not going to get their right phrase. In this case, it's a few weeks since we've published an episode, or we've not published an episode for a few weeks. It's a perfect tense in English, but putting this into Spanish, we end up with a present tense. And of course, that is combined with the word athe. Consider this other example. Ace dos semanas,

that no boy to college. It's two weeks since I've been to school, or I've not been to school for two weeks. Now, as you know, the word ace comes from acer. In this situation, it's in the present tense, Ace dos semanas or Aze Algonas semanas, and so on. Ace is really the time element of this particular construction. a few semanas, literally that makes a few weeks.

So let's think a little about our second example there. It's two semanas that no voy to college. It's two weeks since I've been to school or I've not been to school for two weeks. Now imagine now in the future you're thinking back to a time when it had been two weeks since I'd been to school or I hadn't been to school for two weeks. In this situation, we've got to take the verb, the main verb, back in the past, and we also have to take the athe back in the past. So I hadn't been to school for two weeks at that time. It becomes that made two weeks that I wasn't going to school.

So thinking of the English version there should help you work out that it becomes a imperfect tense of acer I see two semanas that no

Iva to go to so again in this case Iba is the

imperfect tense of year as you know so it was making two weeks

at the time that I wasn't going to school I two

semanas that no I know if we consider again

the fact that it's not stopped raining for two days. Imagine next week, thinking back to this week, and thinking it hadn't stopped raining for two days. So in that situation, it had to dozee, that time, that never, being of course the imperfect of parer, It hadn't stopped raining for two days It hadn't stopped raining for two days Now you might think it hadn't stopped raining And the had not done something may trigger a pluperfect in your head

But remember this idea Just as have not done something for two days Becomes a present in English The had not done something for two days becomes an imperfect in Spanish. Now, one of the things that Ana Isabel said, I thought was quite a nice phrase that you can use when you're listing things.

Sometimes if you're listing things, for example, things that you like, then it's perhaps a little boring to say, me gusta la music classical, me gusta the jazz, and me gusta la music pop. If you were to say, for example, me gustavs all type of musica.

from the music classical, passing by the jazz, and getting to the music pop. It's a nice way of changing the way that you're listing things. Of course, Anna Isabel used this construction when she was

talking about what there is in Ecuador. She said, although it's a place super chiquito, we're just from volcanoes. So although it's a very small country, we have everything from volcanic. volcanoes,

passing by animals exotic, so from volcanoes through exotic animals and getting to

some plas beautiful and literally arriving at beautiful beaches full of sunshine so we've got everything from

volcanoes through exotic animals to beautiful beaches. Now, something that I'll explain a little more in this week's

notes, but which is worth mentioning here as well is the use of si-no. This was an expression that was used a couple of times by Sophia and An Isabel.

Now, you'll be familiar with the word sino, S-I-N-O, and that word would be used in an example such as, no-chero, Sino-E-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-E-T. I don't want that book, but this one. So that's when Sino is one word.

However, there are situations when C-No is written as two words. For example, if you want to come, then, then, I'll go to but if you want to come, I'll go with you, but if not, it doesn't matter. If no, in this sentence, is written as two words. If not.

Now, in our discussion, Sophia actually said, Malas Palabras, we're much, but if not, we're not we're saying much, so malas Palabras we're much. bad words we have a lot. So we've got lots of bad words. But if no, we're not talking about much.

And then she went on to say, but if we're not talking about bad words, then we say, Che a lot. So in this case, is used as a shortened version, really, of saying something like, malas palabras,

we know much. But if not we're not about badas, we're decimus much che and so on. And actually, in that same sense, Sophia then goes on to say, in Argentina, no decimos,

what you, what ises, but, we'll come to boss in just a moment. So there she's saying, in Argentina, we don't say, too, what you're doing, rather, s'no, one word. Probably the best way to deal with this is just think of sino as one word, when it means not this but that, in that kind of situation. Now, I made reference to boss, there, V-O-S, and this is a form of the verb that is particular to Argentina and certain other Latin American countries. It's used in Argentina as a replacement of tu.

So rather than saying, tu-ablas, or in the case of what Sophia said there, too-a-thes, you say, vos ablas, or vos aces. And notice that the stress changes here as well. Because what happens with Vos is that you take off the R of the infinitive, so Acer, or in an Argentinian pronunciation, Acer, or Avlar, and you replace the R with an S and put an accent on the final vowel. So you get Ablas, Vos Ablas, and Asses, Vos Aces, What are you doing?

I do Ibro English, but vos, Ablas, Spanish. So, vos ablas, with a stressed second syllable, Ablas. And this works for every verb, apart from one. So the voice form of the verb is regular,

apart from one verb, and that's ser, the example that Sophia gave. So's, vos so. I am, you soos, you are sos, el or ella,

is, and so on. So the rest of the verb is conjugated exactly as it would be in most other Spanish-speaking countries. Now, notice also that in verbs which normally have radical changing stems, for example, Poder becomes Puedo, Puedes, Puede, and so on, because that syllable is not stressed,

then you don't need the spelling change. So it's vos podes. you can you come this evening? Can you come this evening? Vos Podes, as opposed to tu Puedes. There is another form of Vos that's used particularly in Chile. And you may remember last time when Loretto was talking about the verb to catcher or to understand something.

And she said, Kachai, do you understand? And that is the Chilean Vos form. Vos Katai when it's AI ending. But that's perhaps getting a little too complicated, so I think we'll leave Vos there. If you're interested in finding out more about the Voseo, V-O-S-E-O, then you can have a look on Wikipedia for Voseo. And there's also an interesting website that you can have a look at if you're particularly interested in travelling in Argentina

and you want to practice your verbs using Moseo as opposed to the Tu form. and that's at VoseoSpanish.com. And we're going to leave it there for this edition of Showtime Spanish. I'm sure you're all aware that in Lesson 39, next week's edition, it will be our final normal lesson of Showtime Spanish. Obviously, lesson 40 will be the final installment of Berano Español, our Spanish soap. But next week, we're going to be hopefully doing something a little bit different, taking a look back at lots of different things that you've learned.

over the past 40 episodes. As they say, All good things do come to an end. And Showtime Spanish will be coming to an end after lesson 40. However, there will be more content from Radio Linguay for advanced Spanish learners, and we'll be telling you about that as soon as we possibly can.

In the meantime, I would like to say much thanks to Anna Isabel and Sophia for their help with this week's episode. After la proxima. This podcast was brought to you by RadioLingua Network. Find out more at www.