Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 100: EP100: Let’s Celebrate, Kail Opening a Restaurant, and Chris Watts Murders

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

This week, Coffee Convos is celebrating their 100th podcast episode! Kail and Lindsie start this monumental episode by reflecting on all the things they've filmed, and what it's been like to deal with the public's opinion along the way. Kail addresses an issue she's experiencing with her dog being up to no good. The dynamic duo also discuss having so much going on in their lives, but simultaneously feeling like nothing's actually going on at all. Can you relate? Lindsie ask for advice on how to coordinate her days when Jackson is back at school, & why it's been such a hard adjustment for her. Kail proposes the possibility of opening a restaurant. They talk about updates in the chilling Chris Watts murder case, & give their thoughts on the most recent developments. The couple also talk about the strange process of associating emotion with "things" & why they both don't attach themselves emotionally to houses or cars etc. Kail shares her experiences with her recent visit to PennHurst Haunted Asylum & why she has so many questions after going. Lindsie shares as to why places like PennHurst should no exploit in poor taste as an attraction that families loved ones were once housed, and restrict their labeling as a historical site only. Conversation moves swiftly on to the popular clothing company Forever 21 filing for bankruptcy, & how a lot of girls are going to suffer from this catastrophic closing. They talk about how people read way deeper into things on social media than they really should, & why they feel that friendships/relationships shouldn't be based off of different beliefs. Kail and Lindsie round off their 100th podcast by completing a thorough clean out of a year's worth of old pictures, and laugh at their seemingly crazy collection of screenshots, that any normal person would struggle to understand. This and more, on this week's 100th Coffee Convos Podcast, hosted by Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley.   

Hey guys, guess what? We're on episode 100 of Coffee Combos. Lindsay, how are you? I am not that energy level this morning, but we are here 100 episodes. I'm amazed. Is that 100 weeks? That's definitely two years. Kale, I'm literally amazed.

Same. So much same. The fact that we kept up with something for 100 weeks. We were committed. We've been committed. Kale. We were committed. It takes a lot honestly and to like coordinate our schedules and get along all the time.

I know. It really, it takes a lot. It's very emotionally draining sometimes and mentally draining sometimes. I think too, like whenever you're talking about real life stuff, it can also be emotionally drained because like you know that you want to be honest with the listener and you want to be able to share your story because you hope it helps somebody. But then at the same time, it's like reliving it again and then you realize that you've recorded it.

So then whenever people start hearing it, then you start getting the messages about it. So it's like reliving it three times by the time they hear it because you lived it. You recorded it and then you hear it. Same thing with reality TV. So speaking of that, we've been getting a shit ton of messages complaining about my dog and I just, there are some people who are like, it's fine because they love puppies and then there's other people who really are annoyed by it and I'm sorry if I had another suggestion or solution to my dog playing and barking and all of that, I would definitely

do it. I did put her in a crate for this episode so that hopefully she doesn't cry or bother anyone. Well, how many weeks is she? She's 13 weeks. Right. So that would kind of be like expecting a 13 week old baby not to make a noise for like an hour and a half.

Yeah. So I'm so sorry. I just, I don't know. Maybe I'll hire a dog walker and they can take the dog for a walk while I podcast for an hour. Kale, that's like a whole nother element of like things to arrange. That would be a whole nother bill. Yeah.

And I just don't think that that's in the cards like I really know. It's not, but if it'll make our listeners happy, then I guess I'll consider it. So what have you been up to? Being good. Let's think. No, I haven't been up to anything. I've been up to straight no good. I thought that I was done filming.

I thought that last week or the week before that was my last shoot for the season, but I've, I'm filmed all day yesterday and I'm filming again after this podcast and I'm still working on the house. It's still just coming along, you know? I feel like our lives, Kale and I were texting the other day and I don't know if anybody who's listening has ever felt this way and it's kind of hard to explain, but I'm gonna explain it the best I can. Do you ever feel like you have so much going on and nothing going on at the same time?

That's me. That's literally me. This entire, well, probably my whole life, but especially lately, I feel like there's so much that I need to do and I need to get done and it's on the to-do list, but then I also feel like, oh my God, there's really nothing going on. It's very weird and it's confusing and it kind of puts me in a weird vibe, like a weird mood because I don't know what I should be doing. See, I've been feeling that way lately and I think it's because I have not fully adjusted

to the fact that Jackson is not home basically all day. Right. So it's been hard for me to get my schedule in order. You know, like do I wake up, he leaves the house by seven o'clock in the morning. So do I wake up and do all of my work around the house and then get dressed and go to the gym or do I wake up, get him ready, get him out the door, get dressed for the gym, go to the gym, come back, shower and then like do my work day, I can't figure that out. So moms, if you're listening, please help me because I don't know what I'm doing.

Same, so much same, send all the help we can get. That would be great. I was thinking the other day, like how much you learn to get done on like a preschool schedule within a couple of hours. So I feel like I do everything like, like against the clock, I guess. And then I look up and I'm like, oh, I have like six more hours before Jackson comes home. And it's like, and it's kind of like nice, but also like what the fuck are you supposed to do?

Yeah. And then I feel like this is at the point where people have like more kids because then you're like, okay, it's not chaotic enough for me. It's not everything like to put together. Um, I don't know, I miss a little bit of the chaos. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. I think you're describing me for sure.

That's weird coming out of my mouth, right? Oh yeah, it for sure is. Um, if we both said, um, at the same time, I think I'm going to open a restaurant. Kale, shut up. No, I'm serious. You're not opening a restaurant. Are you nuts? I am opening a restaurant.

I'm opening a restaurant in Smyrna, Delaware with my friend. Kale, when did you cope with this idea? This was literally something that you thought of like over one dinner. No. Okay. So, um, I have a friend who approached me with this idea and he was like, okay, so his, I know him because his son and Isaac go to school together and so he came to one of the birthday parties.

That's how we met. So, um, his dad is actually like my contractor. So we like don't really, I guess I don't want to call him an acquaintance because I feel like that's like an insult to him. He's my friend, but I don't really like, he's not like a friend that I like hang out with. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah.

So it wouldn't, it wouldn't, the reason why I say that is because it wouldn't be like mixing friends with business in that way because we don't, we're not like besties. Do you know what I'm saying? Right. So, he approached me with this idea and I'm like, at first I was like, I wouldn't open a restaurant because one, I can't cook and two, restaurants are really hard to open, but this would be like more of like a bodega, like Spanish food restaurant and his family I think is going to run it.

So it's like, I'm like the silent partner. Except not silent now that you told everybody. Correct. But yes, I do get what you're saying. You're basically an investor. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

But I'm still going to call it my restaurant because I feel like that would look good on a resume. Right. But Kale will have never been in the kitchen. She will have never cooked. She will have only been there for dinner. Anyway, I have a meeting for that at two o'clock today. So they're going to film me go have the meeting at two o'clock.

Kale. Or this restaurant. I can't even, I can't even like. And then we're going to open, I think the next thing we're going to open is that that nail place, right? No, Kale, all of these businesses are not happening. Like we can't be connoisseurs of all of these businesses. Like we can't be professional podcasters.

I wouldn't consider us professional by any means, but we can't be podcasters and hair care owners and nail salon connoisseurs and restaurant tours or whatever they call them. Why not? That's not a thing. People. Why? You have to like be good at one thing. I don't think that you maybe you perfect the craft of one and then you move on to the

next. I mean, maybe we've committed to podcasting for two years and we have not stopped. And we're not stopping anytime soon, right? So like we are committed and we have, but Kale, then I started, what is, uh, uh, pothead is fine because that's like a business that's a product, you know, so it's different, right? Right. Not that it doesn't take work, but it's different because it's a product, like you have a solid product.

So, right. That's one thing, but talking about a restaurant and a nail salon, are you out of your mind? Like a little bit, I'm just saying that we could literally just keep it on our radar for the future. That's all I'm saying. I mean, I definitely think there's a need for a nail salon and I've thought of like a million different. I've even like researched like types of chairs and like weird things as if I was opening

it tomorrow because that's super important for me to know what type of, um, model chair that we're going to have in this invisible nail salon, but just imaginary. Yeah. Imaginary. Um, but yeah, we, you know, we should maybe like consider it, but then you also consider doing like a blow dry bar and like all this stuff. Yes. I had a whole business plan written for that, like a 30 something 40 page business plan

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Well, what is it? Is it anything? Okay. There's new revelations, I guess is the word, new details have emerged about the Chris Watts story and the Chris Watts case. So that's one. And then the second one that I was going to mention was, well, let's take it step by step. So okay, let's go with the Chris Watts.

Okay. So I sent an article that I got from Kristen. You guys all know who Kristen is now. She was on the podcast. She sent me this article, which I then forwarded to Lindsay about the Chris Watts who murdered his pregnant wife and two daughters. He is telling an author his story so that she can write a book on it. And in the interviews that she's been having with him, he actually told the author that

he killed his daughters twice, essentially. And he had actually been trying to get his wife to miscarry prior to murdering her. And it was not a fit of rage, which he had previously claimed before. He thought that he could convince us that he killed them in a fit of rage, but really he had been plotting it for a long time. So I guess after he attempted to kill his daughters, he proceeded to then go kill his wife and his daughters woke up and he says he doesn't know how, but they did and what's going on with mom.

And I just have a lot of questions. I guess he said that they would have prevented him from being with his mistress, but I want to know how murdering people would then allow him to be with his mistress and what the fuck the train of thought is there. I have a lot of thoughts on it because first of all, if your mistress is so good that you would just like up and leave everything that you have created, I feel like at that point, he would overly owe it to his wife to be like, Hey, I'm having these crazy thoughts. You know, I want to be with whatever her name is and it's making me feel like I'm trapped

in this situation and I can't get out and it's making me have these really like crazy disturbing thoughts and ideas. I feel like at that point, she would have been like, okay, you're a whack job and you need to remove yourself from the home and then he could have gone off and lived happily ever after with whomever, but I mean, we definitely all know somebody who has up and left their family before, right? Like, I know a lot of people, both men and women who have truly just left their children with their significant other at the time and go off and live their own life.

So if that was the route that he wanted to go, if he would wanted them to be gone so that he could go be with the mistress, why not a, divorce them and get a custody order? Because at that point, you would be able to have access to your children and be able to share, you know, a life with your children to some degree, or be just up and fucking leave them at that point, like just leave them. Well, what was. And I also want to know what kind of woman was the mistress? Because now in the article, it says that she's living in another state and she's in the

witness protection, protection program. I want to know, did she know he had a family and did she have a family of her own? And what would have happened when that relationship goes south? Would you just kill her then? Or would you move on? Or because he claims he's not a threat to society. He was only a threat to his own family. Okay.

No, you're, you become, you become a threat to society. And you kill somebody else. When you exhibit the type of behaviors that he has, if you can do it to your own family, you could do it to anybody. That's just the facts. Yeah. I agree. So what was disturbing to, I mean, the whole thing was disturbing to me, but when I was

reading it, cause you were like, read it in its entirety. And so, you know, I was reading the entire thing and it was pretty lengthy. What disturbed me the most was the fact that he went to kill the girls first and then they were not dead. And then he was able to, you know, it almost would make you think in your mind like, I guess you try to put yourself in the mind of this person, but obviously like you can't because you know that you would never be in a situation like this person, but it made me like want to be in his head and be like, okay.

I am in a bedroom killing my wife and my girls come in, which I thought were dead. Would that not have been like, uh, he said red flag, right? Well, and he says that though. He says that, you know, that he thinks that this was God telling him, you know, as his daughters wake up from what he thought he killed them. And then he said that he's ignoring another flag, I guess, another sign that he should stop what he's doing. But then he said that he was basically infuriated by the fact that they're still up and moving.

His kids were up and walking around and confused and I mean, he said that his oldest. If they had like any brain damage or anything from like lack of oxygen that would have been going to their brain during the time of him smothering them, like were they, did they pass out and then they woke back up and because they passed out, that's why he thought they were dead. Yeah. That's what my thought was. But just like reading the whole article, I was just like, he's so casual about it and

doesn't feel like he shows any remorse. Like I just, I want to pick his brain. Like I want to know why he thought killing them was a better solution than just up and leaving them. Like I remember when I was with Javi and I didn't want to be with him anymore and we would fight all the time. I would literally tell him when you're at work, I'm going to go, I'm going to pack all my stuff up and I'm going to go back home.

It would never would have thought to do like anything to hurt him. Do you know what I'm saying? It was more like I'm going to pack my stuff and be gone than to, you know what I mean? Well, because that's like a logical thought process, I think like that's very, but obviously this man, I don't know, maybe it was like an internal guilt. Like he knew what he was doing was wrong. And so he didn't want to have to live with those demons of doing something wrong. So maybe he thought like by killing them, it eliminates them.

So then he's not. I mean, I don't know. It's literally so psychotic that you can't even really wrap your head around or when you try to reason, no, there's like no reason. It's literally wack. Yeah, I can't. But in other news, if you guys want to read that, what was it like? What can they Google?

Letters from Christopher. Okay. Google. Letters from Christopher Watts on Google, and I'm sure it'll, the articles will pop up. I'm sure there's various ones, but you can read more on it and what, what we read. Super sad. All right, mommas, I don't know if you're like me, but continually trying to come up

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That's the truck that we brought Jackson home from the hospital in and just a lot of memories in that truck, so literally like our first date, like so much, so when we went to take the truck to drop it off to pick up the new truck, Jackson was bawling in the back seat and he was like, we shouldn't be leaving our truck. He acted like it was part of our family and he was just really upset about it and I want to know if other people feel like their kids have a bond with their vehicles because Jackson definitely had a bond with Will's truck and then I told a neighbor about this story and they told me they had heard about this too, that they had a friend that told them a similar

story as well. So, I don't know, it's like very weird, like obviously it's sad, like your memories and stuff like that and Jackson's like, I see that truck on the road, I'm going to tell the people that they stole that car from us. Oh, I mean, that's good though because he's had that stability his whole life, like that's the only, you know what I mean? Like it's not like things are constantly changing. Now does he have that same like bond with any of your cars?

No, but that's because I just changed cars, like I'm more of a boy than Will is, you know? So, I don't really associate like emotion with stuff like that, so, but Will definitely does like with our old house too, the day that we closed on that house right before we closed on the one that we're in. He literally sat in the driveway and like balled in his truck before we left the house and Will did or or Jackson did Will did and I mean, obviously, yeah, like that's where we brought Jackson home to and it was our first home as a married couple. I mean, obviously you're going to hold memories there, but my memories are like from photographs

and like I would be devastated if something ever happened in my photographs, but as far as like a house or a car or something like that, I don't really attach emotion to that. Does that make sense? Yeah, I feel like I have really weird emotions towards my childhood, like there's like people and like things from my childhood that I just cannot let go and they still make me emotional to this day about, but like as far as like my very first apartment or like my very first house as an adult, like I have absolutely no attachment. Like I don't, it's like, oh, wow, remember the time that me and Isaac moved in and you

know what I mean? Like, but like I can talk about it, but I don't feel like an emotional like, oh my god, I'm going to cry. It's like, oh, I remember when I lived there and this happened or I remember, do you know what I mean? Like, it's just not like, but I don't like that too. We've talked about this before on the podcast, like I'm not attached to like some parents save like every single item of their kids from the time they're born to the time they're

an adult. Like my mom, if she saved anything, she didn't ever give it to me or let me see it. So like I have no attack, like I don't give a fuck if my mom has my baby teeth. I don't give a fuck if my mom has her first, my first haircut. You know what I mean? Like I'm not attached to those things. So I don't know. Yeah.

See, no, I am a saver of like things, all the things that associate with Jack. So I save like everything, like all the school papers and I'm like crazy person. I'm like, oh, I might need to know what, how he wrote an a like when he's like 35 years old. I need to know how he wrote it a when he was in kindergarten, like probably not, but I still save the stuff. But I just want to know like for listeners, do you associate like emotional feeling with vehicles or your home and things like that?

Because I feel like as long as I have the photographic memories that it doesn't, the actual like physical thing doesn't bother me if I have it or if I don't, right? So I think let us know. I think you're the same. That's one thing that we're the same. Okay, so I text Kale last week. I had been on the hunt for white bags for Jackson's class, like white lunch sacks. And I know I had bought them like two years ago at the regular grocery store for something

else her school. And then I went around like all of the grocery stores, all of the drug stores like Wal-Mart Target, all of the places searching for these white lunch bags. And finally, the last place I checked was Target and they didn't have it. And so I asked the guy that was like the stalker there, I said, do you know why they do not have white lunch bags at any store? And he said, well, I know specifically Target took them off their shelf because of the amount of bleach that goes into bleaching the bags, so it's not an item that they carry in store

anymore for like this eco-friendly approach or whatever. So I'm like, okay, well, that doesn't really make sense to me because it's still a paper bag and whether it has bleach on it or not, I still would think it would be better than like a plastic bag, but here they are, you know, but not going to argue whatever. So I tell Will, I'm like, hey, can you go on Amazon and order these bags, can't find them anywhere locally, probably should have just gotten them off Amazon in the first place. So I think nothing more of it, he goes on Amazon, orders the bags, I get home one day after school, open up the mailbox, there is a package, it is the bags, but it seems very

small. So I come home, open the bag, and it is freaking white, tiny craft bags. Like little, I don't even know what you would put in those. You would put like, okay, if you've ever seen like on Halloween or like at a wedding or something where there's like bags that have like, like tea candles in them to like line up in a walkway or maybe it might be enough to put like a single cookie, like what you would get from like a bakery, like really like little, you know what I'm talking about? Yes.

So that's how small they were. So I sent him a message, a picture of them, and I was like, are you kidding me? And he was like, what the fuck are you serious? And I'm like, yeah, I'm serious, like, did you not check like if these were craft bags or like actual lunch bags? So long story short, we reordered them and it's all sorted out, but I thought it was funny whenever I opened the thing and I'm like, only that would only happen to me and will your cancer?

A for effort. He got an A for effort. Will gets an F for effort. He does not. Hey guys, I know that you guys are not living under a rock. So you guys have been hearing a ton about CBD and what the benefits are and some of it may be confusing. Right.

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It depends on the day. We do both. Okay. So Jackson eats school lunch on Thursdays because that's nacho day. So he likes to get nachos with just cheese on them. I don't know. Don't even ask. I thought they were like loaded nachos.

Apparently he goes and tells a lunch lady he only likes cheese. Just found this out last week. So he's lunch at school on Thursdays, but every other day we pack and I write him like a little no and stick it in his lunchbox. And then there's like a zipper pouch on the bottom of his lunch bag that I've never used. So like I never opened it. And so I went to clean his lunchbox out and half of the zipper was like a little opened. So I went and opened it all the way and I was just like rinsing everything out.

So when I did, there was a bunch of like napkins that like fell out and I was like, what is this? And I had like mold on them and I'm like, okay, obviously like this has been down here for a while and I never opened it because I never put anything in it. So Jackson was sitting at the counter when this was going on and he starts crying. He's like, mom, all of my notes that you wrote me. And it's like, he was so upset, but evidently he had been collecting like all of the notes that I wrote him, like his napkins and putting them in the bottom of there and like storing

them. And then I guess over time as I cleaned his lunchbox, maybe a little water gets down there. So then like it starts making the things like mold. So big war deal in my house, Kale, it was a big, big deal. And I was like, okay, you're going to start recollecting and now I know that you collect them down there. I know what you're hiding spot. And I'm so sorry that I like wrecked your whole life.

Now everything's ruined, but now, now it's fine. Obviously Jackson is like very sentimental person. Oh, that's so sweet. I love that. Like, do you write your kids notes in their lunchbox or are you like F that? Um, I never did no, you're like, no, no, not it. Not a thing. So anything else going on in your life other than that you're still filming?

I saw the Joker. I went to a haunted asylum. Okay. Okay, so first went to go see the movie, the Joker, which I am not actually a Batman fan. I have like personal issues with it because of personal experience with significant other at the time. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. I would say that the Joker overall, the movie itself was just like, like, I don't know,

it was just like very, like you get the whole gist of like where the Joker started and stuff. And that part was cool, but I feel like the main actor played a really good role. Like he was so, so, so, so, so good. But the movie itself was just kind of like, you know what I mean? Like he was like played his fucking part. So that was cool. And then I went to a haunted asylum. If you haven't heard of Pennhurst Asylum, this was a state school slash hospital for

the mentally ill and handicapped back in like the 1900s. It was open for 79 years and then it closed because of maltreatment of the patients. And I think they were like beaten and abused and all of these things and it was shut down. And the place is really fucking creepy, but it's huge. Like it's literally bigger than a college campus and it's in Pennsylvania where I'm from and they just left it abandoned. Like they never, like number one, I want to know how much the government paid to have this fucking campus built and then for them to just never use it again.

Like they never reused it for a college. They never reused it for a different type of hospital. They never reused it for anything. It just like went to shit. And now they have like haunted attractions there. They do like the haunted asylum for Halloween and I think you can go there to like actually ghost hunt like throughout the year and do like a tour, which I'm interested in doing because it's just like so fucking intriguing to know like what went on behind these walls.

And I guess like orphan children went there and then like just like a lot of stuff went on. But I feel like when you go on the website, it's like number one attraction in the United States. And it was like, this is trash because they had so many actors and so many props that it like wasn't scary. You know what I mean? See, like, okay, I have a weird thing about places like that because everybody knows that

I like Halloween, but I like it for the dressing up aspect, like the very like innocent side of Halloween and not like the creepy side of Halloween. I don't like like spooky like satanic like weird stuff, but a place like that, I'm interested in places like that, but more like on a history level and not like don't try to scare the shit out of me. Yeah, I mean, I went just because like my friends wanted to go, but I'm more like now I just want to see if there's a documentary on it. I want to know more about the place.

I want to know why it wasn't reused. I want to know like what went on behind the wall. Like I want to know all of that stuff. I don't care to like do the haunted attraction. Same for like now I don't want to go to the state penitentiary haunted attraction because I feel like it's going to be the same thing. Like I want to know the history of it and why it wasn't reused and like why it was closed down and like all of that stuff I turned off about more of like the facts and like the

history of the actual place and what happened versus we're trying to make this like super scary and I feel like it takes away from like the actual story. Does that make sense? Yeah, I absolutely do. And I don't think that it, I don't think I felt that way until I experienced the haunted attraction. So like now I just want to know all the things that went on. Just like tell me about the actual history of the building.

Well, and then I have this weird thing too that I feel like when you try to make entertainment out of something that could have been morbid and like history that there's like a fine line there too of being distasteful and being disrespectful in a sense because I mean I don't know if anybody would still be living like family members or anything like that of people that were actually there. Oh, absolutely. I mean that's what when I was doing the research after the fact because I didn't know it was like a real asylum.

Like I thought it was just a haunted attraction. Right. So once I got there and I realized, oh wow, this is an entire like literally it could have been like a little town without big it is if you Google it and you see the pictures you're like, oh my gosh, like these are huge beautiful buildings made of stone like huge and it wasn't until I started looking it up and it actually said that it's controversial because people actually really suffered there and to then make a mockery of it for like Halloween.

So then I felt bad. But yeah, I mean I'm looking up the research now and I hope maybe on Netflix or on YouTube or something there's some type of documentary or something. Yeah. Because I mean like you guys know I'm from Pennsylvania so knowing that it's there and I can it's literally within an hour of me. I want to go do like the actual tour and like learn about it, not the bullshit. Yeah.

Like I was talking to a friend the other day and she was talking about how Halloween can be like really challenging for some people, especially like children who have suffered loss in their life because they see like skeletons and they're trying to like process all of these things like in their mind of loss that they've experienced and they see like all of this scary stuff and like RIP signs and stuff like that and it just put like a lot of things into perspective for me. I know that we talked about it on the podcast last year this time of you know letting kids dress up and you know participate and I just don't like the scary side of Halloween and

like the morbid things. I just like you know to like dress up something fun like a superhero or whatever and like get candy but we don't really take it any further than that. Right. But yeah I'm definitely with you on you know more of like the history side of things and not you know trying to like make like fake blood and like have actors and like weird stuff because I feel like it can be taken as offensive to people who would have actually been at a place like that.

Right. So tell me like when you went then you left where you just kind of like I want to know more or were you just like yeah I was a bust. It just like wasn't scary I think if they were going to do something scary there they would have had a better experience if they've had less props and less actors because like I said the place is so creepy by itself just that eerie feeling that you know something and things went on here. So it's just kind of like disappointed but yeah I want to know more I want to go back

just to visit like get the actual tour of like the history and like what it looks like in daylight because you literally couldn't see anything but the actors are props. And truthfully I know this is going to sound really fucking nuts but we all know I'm crazy since I'm from Pennsylvania I'm wondering like does my family have any type of like relation to anyone that went there or that worked there or that knows about you know what I'm saying like I know it sounds really crazy but it's just so close to home that I just wonder like I don't know like my whole family is like from Pennsylvania like my mom's side is like their roots and their roots and their roots are all there so it's like I just

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I always wondered how those stores make, I mean Fashion Nova doesn't have like a storefront that I know of so I could see how they make money since it's online but how do stores like that even make money to begin with when they're literally not selling the clothes for any, you know what I'm saying? Yeah I know and I mean I feel like the production would have to be so high and they have so much variety of things like if you've ever been into a Forever 21 and I'm like if they're all huge but the ones that are around me like in Atlanta are really huge stores and so the amount of inventory that they have in the store and I mean literally

when I tell you they might have thousands of different shirt options like I just don't see how they are making money maybe it's because the quality is so low that it costs them hardly anything to produce it, I don't know. They had, I read that they have over 800 stores too so I'm like well are they gonna turn this, are they filing from bankruptcy and then closing stores and then are they gonna remain open online? That was something I didn't actually read about I don't know if that's what they're gonna do but I guess I'm shocked and also the amount of lawsuits against Forever 21 that I've seen like I know Ariana Grande was suing them, Brianna has sued them in the past like for like millions

and millions of dollars like how does that happen and you're still in business? I don't really know honestly but one thing that I thought of with the Forever 21 thing was that when Forever 21 came about I found out about it like in college so I feel like a lot of girls have been able to be more fashionable because people who maybe wouldn't have had access to money you know for stores like Nordstrom or Neemans or Bloomingdale's and places like that that are very expensive and would be considered like not affordable, girls were able to go to Forever 21 and be able to pull off similar looks at a very low price and now like what's gonna happen to those people with their fashion?

I guess Fashion Nova is taking over. Like that depends on Forever 21 like you're gonna have to find a new gig because Forever 21's up. Um yeah I mean I have where I'm at now at my new house they don't have like I don't have a mall nearby I guess either mall that you go to is within 30 minutes before it was like a really low budget like they call it the Dover Mall it's like really little there I guess like if you were to go shopping in there like that was the only real store I feel like that people would shop at for clothes was Forever 21. Right yeah and I mean it definitely was a great place like you said if you're going there to find something to wear like once or twice just you know like something to have something new options but as far as like going and getting

something quality that's definitely not the place. Right. What else you got? Let's see I mean they I also saw online that they were talking about Trump getting impeached. I saw that too and I haven't followed it like super super closely I will say that I had retweeted something about Hillary Clinton on Twitter and it was just like this little clip of her and it was an interview and she said that the gutsyest decision that she ever made in her personal life was to say in her marriage and personally make the decision to publicly and politically run for president so I had retweeted that because I felt like it was relatable and a lot of people had sent me like tweets saying should have known you know like you would support

Hillary and then sent me like these mean Instagram messages. Why should they have known that? It was not even mean. I don't even know but it was like mean Instagram messages saying that like they can't support me because I don't support Trump. Okay I'm gonna stop you right there I'm gonna stop you right there. I do not understand how people will literally stop being friends with or stop communicating with their family over their political views. That's crazy. I do not understand that. I do not understand that. And to be honest like it wasn't even about the candidate or the fact that she had ran for president it was just the fact of I felt like what she had said was very relatable. I do feel like it was gutsy for her to run for president as a woman and I do feel

like it was gutsy of her to choose to stay in her marriage because the easy thing to do is to walk away. So right for me I related and that was all there was to it and I think a lot of people read way more into Twitter and read way more into things that are posted than what was intended. It was just something that was relatable to me and I agree I think that you know people who lose friendship over political views I think that those are immature people because if you can't respect and accept somebody for them feeling like they have different views like for example somebody had sent messages about how they couldn't believe that you and I could be friends because you didn't believe in God and that I did and that you know you believed in all this other stuff and

I didn't and so on and so forth. But how do you that's the problem though they the people those people those same fucking people are the reason why we have the problems that we have in society because they're the people that's like saying well I don't know how you could be friends with someone because they're black I don't know how you could be friends with someone because they put their their kids to bed at 8 30 instead of 7 30 I don't know how you could be friends with those people because they're fucking Jews like what are you saying that's what those people are the problem with society I would never judge someone based on who the fuck they vote for or who the fuck what they do in their personal life now if you go out and you're committing crimes and you go out

and you're a horrible fucking person then I'm gonna remove myself but those are the people they can't even acknowledge or understand the fact that they are the problem with society. I just don't understand and can't wrap my head around the fact of what would make somebody think that they are entitled to send people messages being like to question somebody else's friendships or relationships or whatever based off of beliefs that we have how does that define a friendship because we believe something different. Because you're not our friendship is not based on the fact that we both believe that we do or do not believe in God that's like okay you might have friends that you go to church with and that you your relationship is centered around that

my relationship with you is not centered around that I have other friends who we bond off of the fact that we read the same type of books like I how does anyone expect to have a unified and like peaceful type of society and country if you're judging people based on what they believe in aren't you supposed to accept all types of people and all types of beliefs or maybe if it makes you upset and you can't be friends with someone because of their certain beliefs maybe don't talk about those certain topics or maybe do so that they can enlighten you and let you and broaden your horizons because honestly that's so ignorant. It is so ignorant and I feel like it's so judgmental and I don't even know that the people that are sending these types of messages

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condom like on the ground no no and I was like what is this like exactly at that point I was like so gross should we be going here or like what exactly is going on I mean it was like in the middle of a parking lot I mean I definitely had sex at a parking lot in a car but like I'm not throwing a used condom out the window like that's never happening like is that weird that's disgusting that's an unsanitary that's like where kids go that's that's what I felt like I was like but then the weird thing is is that I felt like at the fair there was less children there and more like grown adults like obviously I saw children but it was like seemed like a hangout where maybe high schoolers could go at night I don't know like it didn't seem

like a ton of little kids of what I would expect if that makes sense yeah I didn't we had a state fair and we have one in August I guess Delaware's is and I have only been I think once or twice since I lived in Delaware and I've been here for almost six years do you take the kids um yeah when I went we took the kids both times and did they have fun yeah but we went during the day it was like more during um I think by time we left the second time by time we left it was night time because we spent like the it's expensive they're expensive to get into and then like the rides the food all of that so we I think we like made a day of it um the last time I went was when I was pregnant with Lux so that was I mean he just turned two so um because I mean they're just it's expensive and I don't

and I don't really trust the rides there that much like I feel like I don't know it's not like an amusement park where they're stationary and they get serviced regularly like I don't know what the servicing looks like to like carnival and like fair rides you know what I mean I know and if they have like the same type of regulation as like what you know like a disney world an amusement park right exactly something like that yeah I know um honestly but my kids do love to go play games like that's they love to play I think they would prefer a fair they would prefer would prefer to play games over rides yeah like the um shooting water games and like stuff like that Jackson loves to play stuff like that but as far as the rides I'm terrified we actually I think the

first time I ever went was like three years ago and somehow we ended up with seven fish no what happened and they lived they lived over a year yeah and then like at one point I just had like one left like one goldfish left and it was in this like 20 or 30 gallon tank and I was just like I'm not balancing this pH anymore so what happened he died he went to another home okay so he went to another home I'm not going to question where that home is I didn't he didn't die I just put him in I put him somewhere else you put him somewhere else um hopefully the kids aren't listening to this they're probably like wondering that where that single fish went it was special to them it was very special it was very special to them um can we talk about this week I have like a major

task list of things to do and I know one of the things that are on there is going to be very time actually two of the things on there they're going to be very time consuming the first one is going through my phone library and what does that mean like going through like my picture library or like my camera roll or whatever it's called um okay to like delete pictures off of there you know like it's like weird stuff that's probably on there like pictures of like somebody or like people asking you what you're doing and then you like take a picture of cooking because you don't want to type it out and then you send it and that picture is on your library you know what's really crazy is like if anyone went through my camera roll camera roll my camera roll

I would be embarrassed because I have the weirdest shit on my phone like I screenshot the weirdest fucking shit and they might put me in penhurst asylum because they want to know why the fuck I have certain things screenshot like why did I screenshot this picture of someone else's family that I came across from 1987 and we don't really know who's in the picture but it was interesting to me so I screenshot it in the event that I may send it to a friend because it may relate to something that we're talking about never and then by the time it would relate so far up your camera roll that you don't even know I wouldn't be able to find it that you wouldn't be able to find it okay so exactly like you get me we're on the same wavelength so I hundred percent also

screenshot really weird stuff and like all of these like okay if my phone ever got taken they would also put me in asylum because I have all of these like screenshots of like murder stories and like crazy stuff on my phone so that I'll remember to like talk about it and then I don't delete it off so I literally have so many photos and screenshots of stuff that it's starting to give me anxiety the amount of stuff that I have on my phone like I have 17,000 photos in my album and just to give you guys an idea I have over 4,000 screenshots of God knows what like I have no idea so I am going to make it a priority this week to go through all of that stuff and delete off things that I don't need and then to categorize my photos so that I can make like little books

there's like where you can go online and like make little books of like memory books that I can take the photos off put them on a memory book so I know I have them forever it's in hard copy and then I can get them off of my phone and not have to have the anxiety of knowing that there's like weird shit in my camera roll like if I died if one of us died and somebody saw what was in our camera roll could you imagine no I told Kristin if I if anything ever happens to me I need her to completely destroy my phone and my laptop I said if anything happens to me I need you to go destroy every fucking thing I want you to destroy my phone destroy my laptop and never look back destroy my entire life everything that I've ever done my electronic life

my entire electronic life um but also get me I told her if anything ever happens to me like wow I'm I'm a psycho like people are gonna like probably admit me admit me to award um I said if anything ever happens to me I want an hour special on on the ID channel kale like I deserve that I feel like that's how you want to go out like I can't if that happens to me I want a 2020 special but no the day that you clean out your camera roll I need you to let me know because that way I'm gonna do it the same day so that way we're not texting each other while we're trying to do it because honestly when you're trying to go through your camera roll and people are texting you and you have shit going on it gets really annoying so when you do it I'm gonna

do it that day too yeah because you get distracted you know what I mean like I've tried to do it before and I know exactly what you're saying because then it's like okay somebody text me so I need to answer that then I go back then I'm all the way back at the bottom then I forget where I was so it's like it's literally a black hole and I want everybody who's listening to tell us if you are in the same camera roll screenshot predicament that you need to like go and clear out your crazy life that you have created on your cellular device because um it's really terrifying you guys like it it really is is scary um and other news though I got a huge response from just posting in my story about like ideas that I did for community helper day for Jackson school and then I post like

a fall nail color that I got and like a teacher gift idea I think I did last week and I got tons of messages for stuff like that so if you guys like seeing stuff like that Kail and I are going through like a revamping stage on coffee combos and so starting in November things are going to be changing over there we're going to be posting like different things other than just you know episode um releases and we want to know what you guys want to see like on the story like does nail colors interest you does ideas for teacher gifts um like community helper snacks like stuff like that if that interests you then please um go on iTunes and leave a review and just put your interest and like what you want to see on the Instagram page what you want to hear about more

on the podcast so that um when we start our new year that we are fully organized and focused on what you guys want to hear about yes 100% um do you ever feel like you get overwhelmed on days where you're like okay I need to go to the gym I need to get my car washed I need to pay my bills um I need to do like all those things do you ever feel that way uh yeah but I haven't been to a gym in months and in a month or in months no in months oh loud what's you been doing nothing um I just can't seem to get a routine together to set aside time to go to the gym um and every time I get the opportunity something else comes up like like I said I thought I was done filming last week and I'm not so just all the things happening but I'm going to get back to it I'm going to work on it I'm

going to have next year I turn 28 and my my motto for that is 28 and losing weight so I'm plan on losing weight um soon just not just not yet just not yet I'm not there yet mentally I have not brought it for myself boarded that train um well it's it's hard because I feel like I'll be thinking about I get overwhelmed thinking about my list like before I even start doing it you know I'm like oh I've got like all this crap to do and I feel like I have such a limited time to do it but really I don't really have a limited time of doing it because I just basically said I don't have anything to do so basically I'm full of shit so right I just need to do all of the things you know mm-hmm um there was something that I saw on Instagram that really resonated with me

yesterday and it was just a quote and it said mama you can have goals unrelated to motherhood and I felt like that was so relatable yeah people need to hear that maybe you should say it louder for the people in the back yep because I feel like moms are judged so hard if if you're doing something like while also being a mother does that make sense yes we talked about that before it's so hard it's like yes I'm a mother 24 7 you know 100% like that's my main focus but also there's other things that you have to do to fulfill yourself as a human being and you know being a mother is definitely of highest importance to me but also you know like having an identity within myself because you know they say like when your kids are grown like don't only invest in your

kids invest in your relationships because when your kids are gone and they're in college and you know like they're doing their own life you're not thinking about what mom and dad are doing at home they're thinking about what kegger they're going to next like they don't give a shit what you're doing so right you know like you need things to fulfill yourself and I feel like I'm on that journey right now and it's hard sometimes because I'll catch myself like judging my own self being like oh well you know this needs to be more important and you don't need to do this because your mom or you don't need to do you know like I don't know I feel like it's so hard and I feel like a lot of moms struggle with that and I just wanted to say if you are struggling with that you're

not alone um I go through it I know that kale goes through it I know that we're all going through it and um there is more to to you know being a woman and a mom there you know you can be a business owner you can be somebody who owns like 19 businesses like kale wants to do and be a mom and like be good at it so um that was just something that I saw and I was like wow that really um spoke to me you know it was special to me it was very special to you very special to me um wow it's literally already been an hour can you believe that no I can't and I have like six more updates but we don't have time okay well okay well then we don't have time we don't have time but the six more updates will come next week and I hope that Instagram

doesn't hear about those six updates before um the podcast hears about it but if it does I will clarify um those updates on next week's episode so um thank you guys for listening if you have not subscribed to us you can do that by searching the purple podcast app on your iPhone type in coffee combos click subscribe so that you get the updates every week and click the fifth star you can leave us a written review we're also available now on pandora I hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon see you this podcast is brought to you by weave podcast network check out all of our shows including the brain candy podcast I don't get it coffee convos and let's talk about