Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 105: Virginity Check, Pushy People & Skipping School

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

Lindsie and Kail are podcasting from San Diego his week, where they're talking about pushy people at airports and vegetarian chili on planes. Kail and Lindsie both decide whether or not it's ok to allow their kids to skip school, and read some anonymous listeners opinions. The girls then share their opinions on the controversial and much discussed rapper TI's decision to have a yearly "virginity check" performed on his daughter.

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos from San Diego, California. It has been a journey to get here. What was wrong with your flight? Well, first of all, the Atlanta airport has no excuses for like why they can't get it together because I feel like it's the largest airport and they know their shit show, but I hate Atlanta airport. It's the worst and I get to the gate thinking like everything's good on time and I didn't get food because I thought well I'll be landing in San Diego like perfect dinner time, California

time. Right. Now I get there and all of these people seem like they have figured something out that I haven't figured out. Evidently, we had a flight delay that I wasn't made aware of and all these people were eating Chinese food and I was sitting there watching them. Do you know that feeling of like when somebody else is eating that it like annoys you if you're not also eating because I get that way?

No. Like if somebody's like eating chips and it's like crunching and like making really like weird noises or like slurping like noodles and I'm not doing that too, then I get annoyed with those people. I'm also doing that, then I'm fine. So I was watching this man eat chicken wings and lo mein for like 35 minutes waiting on the flight and then they got there because it was horrible weather. Yeah, it's snowing back home right now.

So. Well you said that it was snowing back home but then you confirmed and said it was flurrying. Which is also snow. Well it's snow but I understand that but I'm saying like it's not like a snowpocalypse like it's not gonna like cause travel problems. I made it to the Philadelphia airport with 26 minutes to spare. That doesn't surprise me. I was actually surprised that you made your flight.

I checked in online and on my app. Wait this was on the way to Texas. Yeah. Because you left. Cause I went from Philly to Dallas, Dallas to San Diego cause I had to be there for a little while for my sister's mom passed away so I went to that funeral and then I came to San Diego from that. Wow.

So can we talk about what's going on in your life? Are we not? Where do you want me to start is the real question. Does that make it worse if we talk about it or does it make it better? Cause I feel like when I talk about my problems it makes me feel more normal cause I feel like people also relate to those problems and then I don't feel alone. I think I've talked about it so much that I feel fine about talking about it. Okay.

Let's go. Okay. So where do you want me to start exactly? I think you should start at the beginning. Which would be when you were born. I'm just kidding. Well, Larry, he's my real dad. I don't know if you all knew, but we confirmed that on this trip.

Yes. I didn't know that. I'm just kidding. I knew some of the crew was your cousins. Right. Yeah. So they're cousins and uncles for sure. And no.

So last week, my grandmother passed away and then my sister's mom died like four days before that. And we've talked about it on the podcast and I've talked about it on Teen Mom. Like I didn't get a chance to go meet the baby or anything. My sister's baby since I haven't seen her actually probably since the, her baby shower in February. So I was like, well, I have to get down to Dallas. Like if nothing else, I need to be there for her.

Right. So I met her mom a handful of times, but that was tough because I, I can't relate. I don't have a mom. I don't, I'm not close with my mom and I know. So she's close with her mom. Yeah. They were like best friends and her mom was the sweetest soul. Like she was so sweet.

So I went down, I saw her, I got to meet the baby. It just sucks that that was like under those circumstances. Right. So it was a little hard and I, but I did see like my first cousins and like my family, my dad's side. Right. We didn't see my dad or anything. My dad, but I was going to say like was dad there huge trying to go.

Oh my gosh. And I was like, no, well, I didn't say that to him, but like other people were like, you're not going. So that was that. And then left that funeral to go back to where I was staying and Joe started fighting with me saying all kinds of shit, just like blowing up my phone, asking if I even cared about my kids. I said, I'm leaving a funeral, never asked me like what, who passed away or if I was

okay or anything. I was at you in a question, if you cared about your kids, like, because he said I had a baby sitter. Yeah. Normal people have babysitters and life happens. So I was a little hurt and I was actually a lot hurt, but we were supposed to celebrate Lincoln's birthday this past weekend because his birthday is on the 16th, but he'll be with his dad.

Right. So I was like, okay, well, we'll go to Calahari and we'll do the water, the indoor water park or whatever. That didn't happen because of the funeral. So that was canceled, but my friend still came up with her son. So she's like, I'll just keep them. That's right. I'm Rachel there.

Yeah. So she was coming with her son to celebrate for Lincoln's birthday. So everything just was like a mess. Life happened. Yeah. So it's been kind of crazy. And then I had court with Chris, which we've talked about before and my grandmother passed away and it's just kind of been a really shitty, like I would say October, November has been

really shitty. Your October, November was like my July, August, September, October, November. Right. But despite all of that, I do feel like I have good energy despite all the shit going on. So we're working, we're working through it. You know how I said that if you get distant, like I know, like I can like feel it. Yeah.

Cause I just feel like I know you so well now. So like I know that if you like, everyone knows me except me. Yeah. Like I can tell when something's wrong. Yeah. And you knew cause I wasn't talking. Yeah. Cause you just like shut down.

Like you just don't say anything. Therapists also told me to stay off social media as much as possible, which I feel like I already knew and I, I did it for a couple of days and then I went back on and I went back off. And so like you would be surprised how many people were like, Kale, are you okay? Yeah. Cause you are posting every second. Literally my friend was like, you literally will post on the couch.

Like you'll be on the couch and you'll post. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. Like that's weird. But I, in my head, I was like, how did they know that anything was wrong? But it's because they were on social media so much that I just need to like take it down and on. Meanwhile, I'm only on social media if I have on like knee-high boots and like hair makeup and you're ready to go.

I'm like to the nines and then Kale's literally posting from her couch with her dog. Like where she just woke up and probably didn't brush her teeth yet. And I'm like, can I be Kale kind of? So have you heard the news? The 2019 FabFitFun winner box is on sale now. Yes. This will be my favorite subscription box. FabFitFun is a woman's lifestyle subscription box that comes to your door each season and

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Same. Okay. So Kristen texted me and was like, what do you want at your meal? And she like gave me the options and I was like, oh, I'm for sure getting the vegetarian treat. You have to do that like 42 hours or 72 hours in advance? Right. Yes.

Yeah. So I'm like, I want the vegetarian chili. Mind you, it's a fucking airplane, so the food's probably not going to be good. And it's probably not even vegetarian. Right. But I was like, just pick it anyway. I was actually really pumped to try it because I was like, well, if it's really bad, then any good vegetarian chili was probably going to be like so good.

Right. Well, I fell asleep on the plane and they never gave it to me. So I was pissed. So anyway, that's my vegetarian slash airplane story. Okay. So one, when I was on the way back from the reunion, we had a really rude flight attendant and this guy was sleeping and then he was like in the row in front of me. And then they got to my row and started serving the drinks and the guy like, I guess came out

of his slumber and he was like. Slumber. I wish you guys could have seen that facial expression and he was like, I didn't get my drink and the flight attendant was like, well, we don't wake up people on the airport or on the airplane to serve you drinks. So I was like, okay, like that kind of makes sense. Maybe they're just like being nice. Like these people are sleeping.

Right. So then it came to somebody else and it got time to like pick food and they said that you had to do the vegetarian, all options are available except the vegetarian option has to be. I forget it was like 42, 48 or 72 hours in advance or something like that. The vegetarian option. To get the vegetarian thing. Yeah.

Oh no, this was like a regular option. Yeah. It wasn't on my plan or maybe they were just like being rude about it. But I came up with a genius idea. What is it? So the like, what do they call it? Like charcuterie or like the cheese platters? Totally.

No, like the cheese platters, like charcuterie. Charcuterie boards, charcuterie, whatever, what, what's it called? I literally have no idea what you're saying. It's like where they have like fancy cheese and like a million olives and then like grapes and like crackers on there. Cheese board. Yeah. Like a cheese board.

Okay. Whatever. I was trying to say the fancy thing. Okay. I don't know what it's called. The ones that they serve on the plane look like lunchables. Okay. So my idea is to perfect that.

And go on Shark Tank. Go on Shark Tank and then just get, if we get one airline, like we're rich forever because people will buy that stuff. You're giving away your idea on our podcast and Team Mom too. We should take that out, huh? You have to be smarter with your ideas. It can't tell everyone. It was a good idea because you know what, I think it will also increase wine sales.

Why would it? Cheese and wine. Yeah. Stop. I'm a genius. I can't put these on the podcast. I know. We got to cut that part out.

It probably won't get cut out, let's be honest. Really quickly, just since we're on the topic of like airports and stuff, I looked myself first class, right? And I look like White Trash 99% of the time. So I was like, so does everybody else? It's fine. No, these people wear suits and we've talked about rude people at the airport before. So I go to get in line for group one to board and this guy in like a business suit like

full on dressed to the nines was like pushing me out of the way. And I do. I do not look like first class. Get out. No, I definitely don't. But I'm just standing there and I'm letting him do it because I want to see how this is going to go. Like I would love to see how this is going to play out.

So he realizes that you're literally shoving me out of the way. I hope he was in Delta comfort and not first class. So he's pushing me out of the way to get onto the plane and I'm like, okay. And then he finally looks back and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Are you in line? And I'm like, mm-hmm. And I literally didn't even say yes or no, I just like nodded my head and we get on the plane and I sit in my first class seat and he's in the back of the plane.

Why are you pushing me out of the way out to get to the back of the plane? Are you kidding me? No. No. Does he not realize he's boarding in zone 12 and no, I love when that happens actually. That's happened to me a couple of times when I've just been in like a sweat suit. I'm like, I don't look the part, but don't push me out of the way. Okay.

But you don't know who I could be. I could literally be like an heiress of Steve Jobs. Like you, you don't know who I could be. Right. I'm actually an heiress of Ben Franklin. I'm so, I'm so combative that if somebody did that to me, I would be like, excuse me, are you going somewhere that I'm not? Because I think we're going to the same place.

I just don't like confrontation. Like I really don't. I know. I feel like you just have to get better about that because if you did get better about that, I feel like your life would be easier. If you just like said, you know, like just get the fuck out of my way. This woman was like white trash and be combative. This woman was cutting me off through the airport just trying to get to the Krispy Kreme.

I kid you not. I kid you not. She cut me off three times. Krispy Kreme is not even that good. She cut me off three times. Are you listening to me? Yes. It's not that good.

Do you prefer Krispy Kreme donuts or Dunkin' Donuts donuts? Dunkin' Donuts. Me too. But you get the cake donut. No, I don't get the cake donut. Yes, you do. You get the sour cream donut. You get the sour cream donut.

That is not a cake donut. That's like a more cakey-like. No, it's not. Okay, whatever. Fine. Kale, I know we talk about this a lot, but when was the last meal you cooked? I made quesadillas the other day. So if you're anything like me, you're constantly challenged to find a daily balance in your

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Because I started reading them and it was cracking up. Okay. So I went on the Coffee Combo's Instagram and I, actually my friend Rachel told me to do this. Oh, that's a good idea. So I posted something to, for moms, to be able to confess anonymously things that they do. And now Kale's going to read your name.

I'm just kidding. I thought about it. I'm calling ZPS. No, I'm just kidding. So I wanted to read some of these because they were so funny, some of them. One of them said that they tricked their son into going to bed at 7.30 after the time change. That is so fucking genius. Yeah.

The only thing you have to do is switch your kid's clock in their room. I never would have thought about that. And I also saw a tweet unrelated to this that was like the topic of like letting your kid skip school. In 10 years, I've never let my kid skip school. Like it's just like never something that's crossed my mind. Oh, hookies a thing in my house. Really?

Yeah. So like I'll read these after you'd explain why. Okay. Oh, so you want me to tell you why? Yeah. Like what, like what would be a circumstance or like a special occasion or a reason that you would be like, okay, we're playing hide and seek. I feel very strongly about this.

So I feel like as adults, you have sick days and you have like personal days that you can take from work. So as a kid and their mental wellbeing, sometimes they might just want to check out and I'm not saying like Jackson probably wants to check out like 12 days out of a seven day week. But right, like there's some circumstances that I'm like, yeah, like, okay, you just don't feel like going to school like I get it. I'm not going to probably do that when he's, he'll probably be using it like to skip test

and stuff. Right. Like eventually. So, you know, it's just like, I feel like personal days are good for everybody and everybody needs them, including your children. I just never, my kids also have never asked me to say no better. They know that they're getting their ass to school. I will say that that topic came, that tweet came at a good time because I do have a day

next week where Isaac has two appointments. He has an eye doctor appointment and an orthodontist appointment. So he will not go to school that day, but it's obviously for a reason. And that was just because he was complaining of headaches, which we talked about last time. So I made him that appointment. Can we talk about that really quick? Cause didn't you say that he was faking? I caught Isaac lying about headaches.

I think that they really did start as headaches, like very few and far between, but one day after we recorded the podcast about the headaches, Isaac got in the car when I picked him up and he was like, you know, mom, like all the way in the third row. He's like, you know, mom, my friend was complaining of headaches and had to get glasses. And I looked back at him and I said, you're having headaches because you want glasses. And he laughed so hard and he's like, no, I don't. And I was like, no, you want glasses. You're literally a scammer, Isaac, and I busted you.

I also wanted glasses whenever I was little and my parents took me to the eye doctor and did the whole exam and everything. And the eye doctor picked up on the fact that I was faking and put like nothing and, you know, like how they switched that thing. So it was just blank. There was nothing on there. And I was like, oh, I can see so much better. And my parents started crying and we're like, oh my God, she needs glasses.

And he was like, calm down. Like they do it on purpose. So we're catching him in a lie. So doctors like know this. Yeah. So I'm going to tell them like, this is my premonition. Literally, I'm taking you to a neurologist. That's what I should have told Isaac.

Like I'm taking you because people that have severe headaches like this all the time in lie probably have something wrong with them. Yeah. And they're brain. And we're going to go and get it tested. Anyway, that was that. But I wanted to read some of these really quickly. Read these confessions because I was cracking up when I was reading some of them.

Okay. So the time change one was really funny. I actually wanted to like reach out to some of these people and be like, I relate. Yeah. And some of them I was like, no, I'm really calling CPS. Okay. This one was really, really gross, but really funny. Okay.

Go ahead. Are you ready? Yeah. My two year old got a German shepherd dog for her birthday. I caught her in the backyard, pants down, squatting and pulling her butt cheeks apart, pooping like the dog does. I was like, oh my God. And I said, I shit in my kid's lunchbox, coffee shits who pulls over on the side of

the road and shits in their kid's lunchbox. I mean, it's better than shitting your pants, but also if you're already, you almost shit your pants one time. Yeah. Were you like coming from, weren't you coming from like Olive Garden or something? Where were you? I think it might have been yourself, but I made it to the bathroom. Okay.

Oh my God. That's the worst. I don't have those problems. I have constipation problems. Many times I've said the park was closed or McDonald's wasn't open when it was. Oh, definitely. That's what we talked about before. I've done that.

Sometimes. McDonald's is not a thing. Their workers didn't come, so they couldn't make the chicken nuggets. Let's see. Someone said they've nursed their infant while pooping most many times, multiple times. You've probably done that. Yep. Someone said they give their child a bun and drill when they want a good night's sleep.

Okay. No, that's CPS. I'm calling it. Yeah. For sure. I know one person that like gives their kids, I'm not going to say their names obviously, but I know one person that literally gives both of their children melatonin gummies like adult dose so that they'll sleep.

Why can't you give them the kids dose? Because it probably isn't enough. Melatonin probably knocks them out if it's adult dose. I'm like, that's literally CPS, like what happened if your kid died of overabundance of melatonin? Is that a thing? I don't know. I might have just made it up, but it might be a thing.

Don't overmedicate your kids, people. Someone said that they say they're going to work out downstairs, but they really go watch TV by themselves. Oh, that's definitely something I would do. That's me. I will eat an entire pack of fruit snacks at once because I can't let my kids see me eating them. Oh, yeah.

I saw this one thing, speaking of that, on Facebook, that was this video of this mom telling this little boy that she ate all of his Halloween candy and his reaction, and I think I'm going to do it to Jackson because I think he would have a panic attack. What did the kid do on the video? Was a meltdown. Yeah. It was like, you have to be kidding me, so serious and so dramatic. Oh.

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Okay. I have a topic that I want to talk to you about and it kind of goes back to like the skipping school thing, but it's about life commitments. So we just dealt with this. I can't commit to anything in my life. That's where I'm at where I'm at today. Well, I feel like you're better with your kids than you are with yourself. So it has never happened before, but Jackson had a soccer game on a Saturday, but also

a birthday party at the same time and it was one of his good friends. And so I was on the side of it's one of his good friends and he should be there to support his friend's birthday, right? and Will was like, no, he has a soccer game and he's committed to a team. So like, what do you do? That is something that I've struggled with with all three. And then I have kids that have games at the same time. So what do you do?

Who's going to be late to their game? So you play favorites? No, it's just like, it's hard. It's tough. But the birthday party and the game thing, it's like they're young enough to, my biggest thing is commitment. So like when Joe doesn't want to take Isaac to his stuff, which he doesn't, that's a big deal to me.

But I feel like if you're committed all season long, you can miss one thing for a birthday party. Now, if you've already missed three because you've done 12 other things, sorry, you're going to the game. You know what I mean? Yeah. But if you're committed pretty much all season, I feel like one time is not going to like make or break it, right?

But in high school or college, obviously it's going to be a lot different. You're not going to be able to, you're not going to be able to miss those things. Well, Will went to games hungover all the time. So obviously he was doing both things. You know? So it's like, why are you having a different expectation for? Well, it's like just like starting the kids off with a good foundation of commitment. Right.

So like over time, they'll be able to judge for themselves like what their priorities are and like how what's more important in life. That's the question is what's more important in life? Your relationships with people or your commitment to something or your commitment to soccer at six years old and you're not going to be playing this when you're an adult, but you will be using your relationships with people as an adult. That's a really good and like being committed to your friendships and being committed to like your family and being committed to those things over sports.

But Will looks at it as you're committed to a team and they depend on you and I get that. I get that too. I get both sides. I definitely do. I think that there's, but it's one of those things. Like I said, if you already missed three practices in two games. So he went to the birthday party. Okay.

That's fair. And he was so happy. But he'll go back to soccer next weekend. It'll be fine. Right. Like that's the other thing. So that's something that I'm working on with Joe right now. I believe that Isaacs who should be making a lot of decisions on like we should be listening

to Isaac at this point because he's 10. Joe doesn't agree. Like, at what point can the child decide, I want to go to the game versus the birthday party or I want to go to the birthday party versus the game. Joe believes for Isaac that we still make the decisions. I feel like Isaac is old enough to be making some big decisions. But I feel like it's also, I don't know how Joe was raised, but like I never got to make decisions.

So then whenever I was allowed to make decisions, then I was like going crazy, you know, like I was going like crazy, like, okay, oh, I can go and drink or I can go and do this or I can go and do that. If you don't teach your kids, like allow them to make decisions that might ultimately be a mistake of a decision. How do you, how do they learn? Well, so we talked about it in therapy, like Joe, me and Isaac went and the therapist said that I let him make two big of decisions.

So got to have a balance. The decision for Isaac, the option to make a decision himself should be like, are you wearing the blue shirt or the red shirt? Not, are you staying at dads for a day longer or mom's a day longer? So you would let him make the second decision. I feel like, yeah, because Isaac was really upset last week because Joe's dad was in town and Isaac was crying because he's like, I really wanted to visit with my grandpa. So I called Joe and I'm like, why is my son crying because he wants to be with your dad?

And he's like, well, Isaac doesn't get to make those decisions. He needs to be on his schedule. And I didn't agree. I felt like if Isaac wanted to visit with Joe's dad, who he does not see very often, he should have been able to stay. Or maybe if it's important to Isaac and the schedule is also important to Joe, then maybe it should be better planned that his dad is there when it's Joe's week. And only Joe's week because then Isaac felt like he was left out.

Like his sister's getting to spend time and then he's not. Yeah. But to me, I just feel like if your dad's staying till Monday, call me, say that, and then I will let Isaac stay until Monday. But I feel like you're a lot more reasonable than who you parent with. So like you, you're more flexible with stuff because you live like a flex life. Like if it's going to make your kids happy and whatever, then you're going to do that thing or try to do that thing.

But the therapist didn't agree. The therapist said that that's too big of a decision to make. So the therapist agreed with Joe. Yes. That it's going to set me up for failure in the long run. But I just don't agree when it comes to parenting and family. I don't agree. Now, if he said, I want to stay and doesn't have a reason, okay, maybe not.

But you had some, there was a special circumstance. Right. Yeah. It's not like he's like, mom, I don't want to come with you. I want to stay with my dad. It's like, well, unfortunately, this is the schedule. This is what we're sticking to. This is what we're doing.

Right. Do you know what I'm saying? So like if he didn't have a valid excuse, you would have let, you would have definitely been like, no, you're not going. I mean, no, but to the therapist point, I could see, right? Okay. Yeah. But I mean, I guess it's so hard.

I want to talk to Leah about it when we have her on the podcast next because I can't relate to some of that stuff, you know, well, no, but also Leah does that. Her and Corey work big time together on the girls. Like if the girls want to stay, they let them well, and then how so, so they work off of that schedule. Like they have 50, 50, they switch on and off every other week. But if the girls want to stay with one of them, they let them, or if there's something going on, they let them.

Right. Okay. So that's where I was like, well, Isaac and the twins are only a month apart. So I know that every kid's different, but it's something that obviously it's been a struggle. And now it sucks because he's not on Teen Mom, so we can't film his side of it. No, no, Joe. Joe. So like they can't film his side of it so that at least I could look back and be like,

oh, that was his reasoning. Right. Because Joe and I are not in a good place right now. But where did that start? Like because y'all were and then you apologized last month, and then I got the text the other day. Like where does it go from like hot to cold, like so fast? And like is this hobby 2.0 or?

How is that going with hobby, by the way? It's great. We've been fought in a long time, like months. Really? And how does that like feel good, like feels good, right? Yeah. I know. I know it feels good.

So I wanted to talk about, hold on one second. I was texting with Kristen the other day, and we talked about Kristen before on the podcast, but that's Kale's assistant and yeah, and best friend. But we were talking about Pinterest and like being victimized by Pinterest and it making you feel like a bad mom. And remember how you were like, I'm not a Pinterest mom, right? And I feel like I'm like borderline. So I feel like I'm like more Pinterest, but I'm not like fully Pinterest, right?

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I like, I go on there and I get ideas to do stuff, but like my shit doesn't ever turn out to look like that, right? Right, right, right. And then that caused Kristen and I to start having a conversation about never making mac and cheese off of Pinterest because I tried to and it came out terrible. Okay.

Well, there was a burn victim when I tried to make the macaroni and cheese, no, it was the macaroni and cheese because it was literally like crisp, like crisp so bad. So then I was thinking about like all the moms that post stuff like on social media of like these Pinterest projects and like their house, like looking so good doing this Pinterest stuff. And my stuff would never look like that. We've talked about this at doing, but I just recently started taking personal offense to this.

Right. And I think it's because I've just recently started like trying to put my house together. Yes. And like trying to do all the things. Yes. That's hard. Um, I, we've talked about this. I can't do the DIY, DIY projects at home.

Like that's not a thing for me. I can't DIY anything. I could get a project off of Pinterest and give it to a contractor to do. Okay. This is what made me think of it though. So Jackson had to do this project. I don't know if Lincoln had to do this or not, but it's like to disguise a turkey. Yeah, we did a scientist.

You did. Yeah. Did it turn out cute? Can I see a picture of it? On the Instagram and then I'll post the picture of Jackson's on Instagram. Also while we're on that topic, I let Jackson go to a play date at Chick-fil-A the night that we had to do the disguise of turkey. So I was thinking like, will it's going to get everything together to disguise the turkey?

No, we get home and will has out a sharpie in black, a red marker or crayon and a blue one. And he wanted to look like spider-man, but it looked horrible. Oh, see that's pretty cute. Yeah. A scientist. That's what he wanted. I love it.

And you use like felt and like made it. Okay. This is like more Pinterest than mine. Look. Do you want me to show you? Yeah. Why did you say it like that? Do you want me to show you?

Because, okay, first of all, will has very little like responsibilities when it comes to Jackson. I normally like take care of all that stuff because I'm at home every day, you know, like I pick them up, I clean out the backpack and everything. Yeah. And one thing that will had to do was the disguise the turkey and it just, it didn't turn out very well to be perfectly honest and I wasn't impressed by it and he also didn't cut it out, which made me very upset because I went down here to get him a nice snack

and then I went in Jackson's folder and I saw the turkey that had like crayon marks like all on the outside. I don't think I have a picture of it on here. So I'm going to have to have Wilson to picture, but I will post it on the Instagram. It was just Spider-Man and it was just like very basic like we'll try to draw webs on there with a Sharpie and it just like didn't come out. Let me see. I don't have a picture of it.

I'm going to have Wilson me the picture of it, but you're not going to be impressed and it doesn't look like the scientist like you did way better. I'm impressed with you. I didn't do that. Who did that? Lincoln did that. You can't tell by the scribble. Well, who did the scientists costume?

Well, it's like Lincoln didn't do all that by himself square. You did that. I did not. So basically I'm tired of being victimized by Pinterest. I want to know who else is also victimized by Pinterest and feels bad about themselves because I feel like Pinterest just makes you feel like a bad mom, you know? So does Instagram. Oh, definitely.

But I feel like I feel like my Instagram page would make somebody feel like a bad mom maybe. Your Instagram makes me feel like a bad mom, a bad person. A bad person? What? Yeah. I could never get my life together enough to do photo shoots. Like I can't get it together. Well, you also have three children and I have one.

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And he posted it all over the internet. Why would that be something? Let's just take the fact out that he does that, period, right? Why would that be something that you would post all over the internet? Like, are you bragging? Well, I guess he did the interview, which then media got ahold of. And then it was all over the internet. But why would you do an interview about that?

Because you should not be having an interview about your daughter's sex life lack thereof. And I think she's 16 and he talked about how the doctor will come out and he has to sign the waiver to share information. So he asks his daughter, do you have anything to tell me? And basically makes her feel like she has to tell him, does the hymen check and make sure it's still intact. Yeah. How do you feel about it?

I feel like in a lot of senses, I can relate because my parents were very overbearing about us having sex. Like literally my dad brought us into the room and showed us like centers of disease control. Yeah, but that's like a good thing. In that regard, yes, to show you like what could happen to you, like if you're out here just nilly-willy doing whatever. But also I was afraid to have sex because I was afraid that it would like disappoint

my parents to another level, that they would never be able to forgive me. Like it was something that you should, if you're in a relationship with somebody and you're old enough and like understand the risk of having sex, I feel like you should be able to make those decisions in an educated way and not fearful. Right. I went on a little bit of a Twitter rant about it. I saw. I'm just like disgusted because I feel like if she, first of all, how does she feel about

that actually happening? Because she probably feels intimidated and pressured to do that because that's her dad and she's underage. And he supports her in every way. Right. But secondly, how does she then feel about him saying it in an interview? And your hymen can be broken like from other things. So many other ways.

And it also can actually re-heal, which is what my gynecologist told me. Oh really? I didn't know that. Thanks for the facts. That's what my doctor told me. I appreciate it. So, like someone did tell me that she, I guess, unfollowed her dad on Instagram or Twitter. She was probably mortified.

Yeah. And did you imagine being a 16-year-old girl with your dad out here talking about stuff like that? Why is my father talking about my virginity anywhere? And it might be something that she's even proud of to like be a virgin and saving herself because- Right. But she doesn't need her dad doing that in interviews.

And I'm like so disgusted and I hope that he realizes what he just did. Sometimes, and I can relate to this sometimes, like when you do things, hindsight's always 20-20, right? So like he probably thinks of it now. But the damage is done. The damage is done. Like- Imagine like going to the gynecologist with your dad for years and him making you, like

I don't, that's so disturbing to me and humiliating. And also it's like none of his business. Like- It is none of his business. I feel like if she is safe and there's nothing like medically going on with her, then that should be something that she should be able to have a conversation with her medical provider. And- Or why isn't her mom going instead of her dad?

I don't know. That's very, that's very strange. I'm going to do some investigating on this and then follow up. I wonder, do any of our listeners have, did they know anyone that also did this? Yeah, share with us, please. Send us an email. Again, don't send us DMs anymore because I feel like they're getting so lost in there. I'm like overwhelmed with DMs.

Email's probably best if you want to email because they get sorted through. But DMs, like we can't get through all of them. And make sure that you're putting like a subject on it because if it's something that- It's like, hey, how are you girls? It gets lost in everything because it doesn't put the topic, so it doesn't- So make sure you're putting subjects on these and yeah, just do email now, not DMs. I know that we used to say like, DM us, like let us know, but it's literally so overwhelming and we keep scrolling and I don't know if you do this, but like I'll scroll on there

to like read stuff. And then it like refreshes because there's so many that are in there, so then it just keeps going. Completely unrelated. Can we talk about me texting you the other night telling you that Will thought that you're supposed to swallow Listerine and you said that I need to leave him immediately because he is gonna- Call poison control.

He's gonna like, if something happens to him, people are gonna think that I killed him and I'm gonna be on ID channel. That's what I said. I know. So let's talk about it because- Yeah, because there's alcohol in it and if you- there's probably other things you're supposed- It literally says-

He's been doing this for years. It's a bottle that if it's swallowed to call poison control. So I only caught it the other day. He's setting me up for like a murder that I didn't do. He's framing you. Yeah. Yeah. And I looked on the back of the bottle because I saw him do it.

Like this was like the first time I saw him do it. Like I know he uses mouthwash all the time, but I don't know. I was just like watching him like we were having a conversation and then I saw him swallow it and I was like, what are you doing? And he was like putting in Listerine and I'm like- Putting it in where? Yeah. Exactly.

Like you're swallowing it. Like that's something you're supposed to like gargle with, right? And then you're supposed to spit it out. And he's like, no. Like you swallow it. And I'm like, okay. Well, approximately how long have you been doing this? Because he also has like a bottle of Listerine in his truck.

Like in his like little- Approximately. How long have you been doing this? And he's like, I do this like every day. Like I brush my teeth with like Listerine with like a toothbrush and my truck before I go back into work after I've had my lunch. And like I swallow it. So I'm like approximately how long?

Like two- He's like, oh, it's probably been going on for like two years I've been doing this. So literally, is that what's wrong with him? First of all, why did you do this new habit? It's not new. It's not brand new. I just discovered it. But two years, I mean, that's a long time, but that's like also new.

That's a newly formed habit. Why did you decide at 30 years old you want to start swallowing Listerine? So I'm going to just take a wild guess here and say that he didn't want to brush his teeth in the bathroom at work. So he came up with an alternative, which would be Listerine swallowing it is not using a toothbrush with his Listerine and then swallowing it. And I'm like, you do realize you're swallowing like all the funk that like you brush or whatever you were doing.

Right. And then you're dying inside. Slow death. And that's probably what's wrong with you. I have now figured out what's wrong with Will among other things, but he needs an intervention. We need to bring him back on coffee combos podcast. Actually he said that he wanted to come on the podcast. I'm down.

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Right. Okay. That was one of the situations that I was in. No. This driver picks me up and I already knew he was squirrely because like squirrely because I had my stuff in the garage and he was like honking the horn to like to the car and I think he was like trying to notify that he was there, but it's like, bro, like already got the text.

Like I know you're here. Like I'm about to come out and finishing my sweet tea, like calm down and I go outside and he's like hitting the horn and he's like, hey, I'm here and I'm like, I know, I'm aware. I get it. Like you're here. So he goes to put my suitcase in and everything and we get going down the road. I see this man know why, you know, like the weather app on your iPhone, how you can have like multiple different places and like look at the weather.

Right. So is he looking at weather in places that he's not at, like it would not be relevant. Right. Maybe he was, especially while he's driving me, like what, what business he was driving me and he was looking at weather in like six different locations on his phone. And I'm like, the weather in New York city or where or Afghanistan or wherever you're looking at is not relevant because what's important right now is the fact that I don't want to die.

What was he doing? He was looking at the weather. Like maybe he was planning a trip while he was driving. Then he was asking me how to get places and I'm like, do you have a GPS? You have the weather in another country. So you should probably, right. So then there's just like old timey car, you know, like people who are like car collectors. So there was like, they have like old timey ones, you know, so it's like driving down

the freeway and it's like going the speed of smell. Probably because it's so old that it can't go faster, but he's the speed of smell. He's literally behind these people about to clip their bumper and the woman is videoing him, like driving down the road and he's speeding going 90 miles an hour, like weaving in and out of these people. This is your driver? This is the driver. And then he's double fisting of a water this big and a coffee and at that point I knew

I was dead. Did you have a photo? You have a photo of him? Yes, I have a photo of him. You want to see it? Yeah, I do. Okay. Because when you see this water, he could kill somebody with this water.

Like it's that big. Are you ready? Hold on a moment, please. What was his name? We don't know. What was he doing without large of a water? He's married. I don't care if he was like looking.

Why is his wedding ring on his right hand? You know what? I heard that people wear wedding rings to make themselves more attractive to people. Have you heard of this? That's terrible. Like because when you want what you can't have. Realtors do that. Honestly, my realtor were definitely married, unfortunately.

So you wanted to marry him? No, I didn't want to marry him, but a lot of people wrote into my Instagram and was asking about Marcus. Oh yeah. So by the way, can we do a teen mom update? Teen mom update. Oh, got to get the cameras ready for that one. Okay.

Teen mom update. What we got? Okay. What have we talked about so far? Did we ever cover the David and Janelle stuff? No. Because I was reading online that she fled to Tennessee? I saw that too.

And I also saw that she was with Nathan. What? Am I more in the know about teen mom than you are? Do you think they're going to get back together? Do you think that he's helping her with the situation? I don't know, but they're in Tennessee. I did invite her on the podcast. Wait.

And she declined. You have her number? No, I do not. I do not have her number. I, Kristen reached out to her management, who is also Jeremy's management. And basically it was like, I'm willing to like squash the beef and just like give you basically like a voice like what's going on if you wanted to talk about it. And they declined.

Okay. So I was like, okay. Cool. Are we so scared? What else? Was there anything else? Was there anything else that was said? She's willing to talk to you privately.

Yeah. So her manager. I think that's a good step actually. Said that she would be willing to talk to me privately. I just, other than like clearing up, my purpose I guess was like, I, it's water under the bridge at this point, right? Like I don't care about the shit that's happened and whatever. But I also wanted to give her a platform to openly and honestly clear up any rumors because

I don't want. I am afraid of David and I'm afraid of David for her. So like I wanted to give her that opportunity. It wasn't ever like, like we would make money off of her being on podcast, you know, we're going to, we're going to keep podcasting and have whatever episode anyway. Like it doesn't. So I was trying to help out in that way, but I guess that's what her manager is for. I guess her manager can help.

So why don't you, I just don't know how I can offer support privately, which I will. I just don't know how to. If I don't have her phone number, how would I think maybe like to organically just let her know like, Hey, I'm thinking of you like, I know what you're going through, not to like completely the same extent, but kind of the same extent, like you know, so you can relate to her on a different level and maybe you guys should do that privately. And then when it is comfortable for her, maybe she's fearful right now and she doesn't want to do anything publicly.

So I think that that should be respected, you know, and if she wants to at any point, go on, then she knows that it's an opportunity and she can say her piece. She can cuss us out. She can do whatever and we'll sit here and be a listening ear because I think the other day I was doing this ask questions thing because people knew that we had talked about the reunion on a couple of episodes ago and about Janelle being there and like everything like up in the air about what's going on and if she returning to teen mom and whatever. And we didn't really go into details because we didn't know any information, you know,

I think they're going to definitely bring her back to some capacity. And I think that I don't think that they I think that she's just like any other normal human like she had mistakes like it does make me nervous. And I wonder how the other girls would feel about it. Like I would, I wonder. But at the end of the day, you guys only see each other reunions and we've talked about that before. So it's like, whatever, right.

But people had asked and they were like, well, you and Kale like invited her on the podcast. Like is she going to come on? Is she not going to come on? Well, she's not coming on. I'm willing to. But then I think people are just like, haven't, um, they don't understand like the behind the scenes stuff. And I think that just because like publicly stuff has been said, people also have to understand

like, I don't have anything against Janelle, however, I do have something against David because he publicly went on Instagram and started this whole thing about calling my dad gay and that I took personal offense to and that's not fine. And it's 2019. So wake up. Right. Did you see, did I talk about the David squirrel thing? No.

David posted a picture with his daughter hunting for squirrels and then posted the picture of the dead squirrels. And then the third slide was the picture of the squirrel on their plate fried and feeding it to Inslee. I tried to dodge them when I'm in the car and almost hit them. Like nobody does that in real life. Like like full on feeding your daughter a squirrel that you all shot. Wait, this was Inslee?

Yeah. For Marissa. No. Oh wow. Oh wow. That's dangerous. Don't those things like here like rabies and stuff? I don't know.

I'm not feeding my child. Like I don't know, can you get it from eating it? I don't know. Like a wild squirrel. That's disgusting. That's. Well, Janelle, if you're listening, we're here to lend a helping hand if you want it. Yes.

So I'll set up that private conversation. Yeah, I think that I should. But I probably will update you guys on whether I had it or not, but I won't go into detail about what we talk about. Yes. Because I don't want to put it all out there. If it's a private conversation, it's a private conversation, and I think people should disrespect that.

The last thing that I think that, well, there's a couple things that we need to do, but we need to talk about how we got involved with the charity that we're supporting. Right. So we're doing blessings in a backpack. And Lindsay came up with a cute little name, Coffee Combos Cares. So you guys can go on coffeecombospodcast.com and there will be a tab on the website where you're able to give back to Coffee Combos Cares, and it goes directly to the organization. The organization.

So we never see the money. It's not in either of our accounts, anything like that. This is just who we decided to partner with. We talked about on the podcast a couple of episodes ago about seeing a child that was in Tennessee that was going hungry, and I think it really just touched both of us. And so this is what we have decided to do. And I think that you're going to be able to go to a location that they actually have one in Delaware.

Perfect. So that's perfect. Because you wanted your kids to see, right? Yeah. I want my kids to help out this holiday season. I'm not doing gifts or anything for my kids. So what are you doing? We're not.

You're not exchanging gifts? Nope. I want them to do giving back. I want to maybe plan a trip to Guatemala. Lincoln had asked to go back. So I want to be able to give back in that community and then do something that's local. That's amazing. Blessings and a backpack actually sent me over some statistics.

And one of them was like literally blew me away. More than 12 million children in the United States live in food and secure homes according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. 12 million. They live in what? And food and secure homes. So like homes that either don't have food or like not enough food. Is that not horrible?

Yeah. So we're going to post the link on the website for you guys to be able to go. And you just can directly go to the website. You'll be able to swipe up and give there. And I think that it's kind of set up to where you can do like if you want to give for a weekend, you know, like to feed a kid over a weekend or if you want to do it for a month, I think to supply a kid for a year, it costs $130 for really to supply a kid for a year. So I know that we're going to do a couple of children like through the podcast.

And then personally, I'm going to do it. And I know that you'll do it too. Oh yeah. And you can give as little as $4. And I think that that supports a kid for a weekend or a week. So that's literally a Starbucks. Yeah, for sure. I'm going to be supporting some kids over the weekend.

So supporting them. I love it. I told you, my friend Rachel works at a school and they'll save the leftovers at school that are packaged, not like obviously from a tray. And the kids themselves know and the teachers know who's not eating and they'll send the food home with them so that they eat over the weekend. I mean, it was just Veterans Day. So it was a long weekend and we don't know what kids weren't eating.

You know what I mean? I know. It's so sad to know that children go home and that their meal is coming from school. You know, like I know that some schools do free funding for like the summertime so where kids can come and get like a lunch or breakfast or something like that. But this was just something that we could like be involved in hands on because we had talked about how we want our kids to know like there are children that are in need and they're so blessed.

And Jackson watched a little video of blessings in a backpack. And I mean, it was crazy how much resonated with him, which is six years old. And he was like, wow, mom, like I shouldn't waste my food. Right. I'm like, yeah, you should eat because you have plenty of food and you always complain. Can I talk about talking to a mom and Chipotle and how it was like one of the most profound conversations that I had in a really long time. I was just eating a burrito bowl and she was just sitting there and talking about her

struggles with breastfeeding and like bringing her kid into the world and how she had step up children and like how it was a blended family and it was literally like such a eye-opening conversation. Did you know her? No. I didn't know her from Adam. I literally just sat down and started eating my burrito. Was that what you were saying?

Yeah, I think so. Well, that's kind of nice. I didn't make it up. It's like nice that you like. Yeah. I just started talking to her and she was like, it's been such a pleasure to talk to you and I'm like, I'm glad that you feel like that because my husband doesn't feel that way.

Neither do I sometimes. I know. Just kidding. Kill hates me sometimes. Oh, and the last thing that I want to talk about is forging names and if you ever did this like when you were in school. I never did because my mom's signature was so specific that I could never. Do you want me to show you what my child did?

Your child tried to forge your name? No, he tried to forge Will's and he's in kindergarten. That's amazing. Isaac was trying to pick a lock in the bathroom the other day. Nobody was in it. I'm not ever going to talk to Jackson as I was impressed. He bent back a bobby pin and tried to pick a lock and I was concerned like that kind of pissed me off.

Like what are you doing? Like didn't immediately make you think that he was going to be that he was going to be like a breaking and entering person? No, I didn't. But I was like, because I made him, I caught him watching YouTube at like five a.m. So I got pissed off and I was like, take the cord out of the TV and give me the cord because he doesn't have cable in his room, but he has a PlayStation. So I made him unplug the TV, give me the cords and then I left.

And I thought that he was trying to pick the locks to be able to get the cord while I was gone. So what was he doing? Just trying to see his skills? I think he just said that he wanted to see if he could do it. So I'm concerned. Yeah, because he claims I'm breaking in somewhere else. I text Joe and Joe goes, well, did he succeed?

I'm like, you're nine. You shouldn't be trying to pick locks. But did he? Did he get in? No. Okay. So the bobby pin didn't work. Look at the signature right here.

I'm going to post this as well, you guys. I'm going to post that little, like, it literally looks exactly like Will's signature. So you're supposed to sign like the, the behavior chart, not his signature. That is Will's initials. Like you have to initial the behavior chart every single day, like whatever your kid comes home with. And the funny thing is, is it wasn't even a bad report, but Jackson thought that somebody was going to forget to do it.

So he went ahead and took it upon himself to make sure it was signed, but he didn't forge my name. He forged Will's signature, which will never does it. So I guess mine was too hard to forge. But the funny thing is, is Will's mom is a school teacher or was a school teacher. And when he was in kindergarten, one of my favorite memories of Will that she has is a little paper that he, a bad behavior paper. And the parent had to sign it and he signed her first name and like not the last name.

So it was just like, was Carol like an all like big letters, like a kindergartner. And then it made me think of Jackson. I'm like, like father, like son. So you never forged. No. I couldn't, my mom's like S and L for Lowry was so like ornate. I could never, like I could never. So I never tried.

Did you get good grades? I failed everything. I was very average. Like I was the average student. How does that happen? Like you come from like, I didn't apply myself. So I was very average without studying. Had I studied, I probably would have done really, really well.

But you talk about like your upbringing and how like you were just like going from place to place and like how your mom like was a little nuts. What is it called? Natural aptitude. Natural aptitude was like when you're like born that way. Like when you're born really smart, I don't think I was born really smart. I was born very average, like average minded. But then I had parents that were like overbearing and involved and I failed and I like went

to summer school every year. I think that's why like parenting is like truly hit or miss. Like you get really lucky if all your kids turn out like phenomenal, you know, like really good, well to do people. But like what was I doing? I was like in private school. Dicking around. I don't know.

I don't know what I was doing. I went to public school. So that's why I'm saying like got knocked up, killed. I did a couple of times. I just, I don't get it. I don't get how somebody like, I had all of the resources, you know what I mean? Like to be like. Like to excel.

Like to excel. Right. Like I didn't. Right. Like Harvard. But then, I mean, we're not talking Harvard. That's extreme kill. But like I could have done way better than what, but so could have I, I mean, I've failed

history like 19 times and I still can't get around the map. Like I still like, I, like geography is not my strong suit. Right. Um, and I was always in summer school. So I swear that like summer school. Yes. Like I was a summer school kid. No, you weren't.

Why? You're lying. I swear to like everything. How many times I went to summer school, two years in a row in high school. I graduated with a cumulative GPA of a 2.0 from high school, but then from college when my parents like weren't even involved with me, I had a 3.95 cumulative GPA. How? Maybe that's what you needed though.

Maybe you needed. I was making my own choices. Right. Like when they were making my choices. And you, so you had to do the best you could do, but when they were making choices for you, you felt the need to go against what they were saying. I knew my parents were going to pay for private school, whether I flunked or if I didn't. So I just did whatever.

But then you should get, so who could we get on the podcast to talk about that? Like grades and like parenting and how your environment affects, how you, while you do in school, it would be like a psychiatrist or like a psychologist podcast that we do. Yeah. So I want to talk about like road schooling and homeschooling. Road schooling. Yeah. Like where you like travel on the road.

Yes. Oh, I'm down for that. Because I mean, think about it, right? Like your kids go to school from like eight to three. It's really set up just to be a babysitter for your parents to work a nine to five. And then they're not really learning anything other than to pass the state tests. Yeah. And I mean, yeah, maybe elementary school for like the fundamentals, but like after that,

you know, I was so thankful for, since I was a private school kid, I didn't have to take the graduation tests, like the state graduation tests, because they're different. I didn't take the graduation test. You didn't. Like in Georgia, you have to take a high school graduation test to be able to graduate and you have to pass it. And I thought the whole time when I was like going through high school that I was going to have to take this test.

And I knew I was going to flunk and like I was going to be in high school forever. Like that was my biggest fear. That I was going to be in high school at like 27. Like a final exam? No, not like a final. It's like state mandated. No. Like you have to take it by the state.

Did you take one of those? Yeah. I've never taken a graduation test. I did a graduation project. Yeah. No, you have to take, you had to take a graduation test. Now that was one of my biggest fears. But yeah, we can talk about this whole topic on another episode.

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