Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 109: Catching Up and All Things Quarantine

Episode Date: June 18, 2020

Lindsie Chrisley and Kail Lowry are finally back and jumping right into things! There's a lot to catch up on, and this week they talk all things quarantine. How have they been doing? What have they been watching? How's homeschooling going? All this and more is discussed as Lindsie and Kail finally get back to recording new episodes of Coffee Convos! Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Hey guys! Welcome to Coffee Combos! Welcome back to Coffee Combos. We have been on quite the hiatus, but I haven't been taking a siesta on my hiatus, so we've been working and trying to get back to you guys. Kale, if someone sends me another text message to tell me to do something today. Listen, I'm right there with you. I literally woke up late because I slept, I went to bed late, but I woke up and had a shitstorm of shit I had to do, and then one of my friends texted me and was like, can you check flights for me to come there? And I was like, yes. And then I'm like, hold on. And then I got a last minute call about pothead stuff and I was like, okay, hold on. I have to podcast. I can't. My brain is about

fried and it's 12 o'clock. Do you ever wake up some mornings and you're like, okay, this morning isn't going to go really good because I'm going to get everything accomplished slowly but surely because it's going to be a peaceful morning because nobody's bothering me. But then some mornings you wake up and it's like immediately there's a pile of shit on your phone. Yeah, well, and let me just mention really quickly. Talk, speaking about phones, I woke up to over 54 missed calls from unknown caller. And I had to silence unsaved numbers and private callers because I mean, I'm talking every minute on the minute from 11pm all the way till this morning at 1138. Okay, first of all, let's talk about that because people

sometimes will call me just randomly and ask if it's me. And I'm always like, no, I don't know her. Oh, every time. And if you're calling from a blocked number at this point, I'm just not going to answer. So why call from a blocked number? I feel like if you're brave enough to call, then you should be brave enough to release your identity, correct? Well, first of all, just because you have our information doesn't mean that you call us and show up at the house. Like that's not with that's not to show up at the house, but for real, like stop checking property tax records to see where I live. It's so rude. It's so fucking weird. It's so weird. By the way, while we're on this topic, because I don't want to forget

about it. Can we please talk about the prison letter that you received? Because I forgot about this. Yes, I sure will tell the story. Actually, it's probably the by most favorite thing. My most favorite scary thing that's ever happened to me only because only because I love the ID channel. However, I don't want to be a victim on the ID channel. So it's like intriguing but scary. Anyway, so I went down to check my mail and which only happens like once every like 12 weeks. To be perfectly honest with you, I really I'm I'm surprised I'm not in more collections because I just don't check the meals. Yeah, I just don't. So anyway, so I go down and I get this letter and like on the envelope, it's all spray painted.

It's like tie dye, right? So I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like I checked the address because I'm like, there's no way this was meant for me. Quarantine girl with the tie dye. Yes, the epitome of quarantine. So I opened the letter and I'm like, what the fuck is this? So it's a 3D card that says happy Mother's Day, Caitlin, which nobody calls me this. So I'm like, who the fuck sent this? Like, except me and professional emails. True. That's very true. So Joe and happy both texted me happy Mother's Day and Chris sent me a card from Lux. So I'm like, it's definitely not from my baby dad. And it's like, you're in my constant thought and I hope to get to know you. And when I tell you this card is

so intricate, it has like dangles, cellophane 3D shit, and it's painted like it's hand painted. So I'm like, Oh, wow, like this person really took the time to make me this card. So like I'm like, literally impressed, but also very freaked out. So I get on Instagram live and you know, like everyone is their own private investigator. Well, my friend Emily, who also is Lincoln's kindergarten teacher, she gets all the information like I'm talking within like a 10 minute span, she sends me all the information on this man. So I'm not going to say his name on here because I don't know if I'm going to write back yet. I just have so many questions but please continue. He is in prison for first degree murder.

That would be the exact type of person that would write you to. I feel like I manifested this by being so obsessed with the ID channel. And I want to say that you and I have 100% talked about writing to people in prison before. Well, mainly the last person that we've talked about writing to is the Tiger King. So maybe this really was manifested and we just got a first degree murder instead. But didn't we talk about writing to like Gypsy before and like other people? Yeah, but we never did. We never did it. But I feel like by putting that into the universe, I manifested this,

right? But I'm like, Okay, I don't know if he is writing to me because he's about to get out and he's going to come kill me. I don't know how long he's known about me. How the fuck did you find out about me? Why me? Are you just looking for someone to be friends with? Like all of these questions. No. And I'm just curious. So my question was, do they have TVs in prisons? And if they do, does it play teen mom? So I told my friend about this who's not on social media and she said her man's cousin

is in prison and they all watch teen mom in prison. Oh, great. So it's like so interesting. So that's how he found out about you. And he really likes you because he spent a lot of time on your card. I was very impressed by the card to be honest. I just need to know if I should be scared or if this is like, he needs a friend because I'm nervous that he's been in prison for 25 years and he's about to get out. Should I be afraid? But also the weirdest fucking part

of all of this is that he's from the county that I'm from in Pennsylvania. Like I'm from that same county, but nobody I know knows him. Well, maybe he's just, well, I mean, he's been in prison for 25 years. So with that being said, the people that you know probably wouldn't be in the age range of the people that he would know. But also I don't think he's going to get out and then just like murder you. I think he's looking for a friend and he's watching teen mom in jail. And then maybe he's like, oh, that girl's from like where I'm from.

But how the fuck would he know that? That's not on Google. They always, if you Google me, they say that I'm from Nazareth, Pennsylvania, and I'm not from there. Like I'm not, I'm not, I live there for like four years, if that. So like, there's no way that people, when I say where I'm actually from, they're like, what? And I'm like, yeah, I'm not from what the show says, where the show says I'm from. Well, Google's always wrong. So if anybody's trusting Google at this point, then I'm concerned about their wellbeing. Honestly, I'm just so over like my information being on Google and I'm trying really fucking

hard to get the shit off. I love the fact that we hate that our information's on Google, but then we just say everything on the podcast. I mean, it's just great. I love it. But nobody from our podcast, I feel like is calling us and being weirdos, like they're genuine, they like us, they feel like they're hanging out with us. They already feel like they're our friend. But they are our friend. No, that's what I'm saying. They're not weird because they're not like, do you know what

I'm saying? It's not our listeners that are showing up at our house. It's the fucking weird ones. Yeah. Okay. So our listeners aren't creepers is what you're saying. Correct. I do believe that. I don't believe that they're creepers that listen to us. Can I talk about my office setup right now at this moment? Please do. Yes, please do. Okay. So my office setup, I switched offices with Will. He is in my luxurious office that has beautiful decor and I am in his weight room and his makeshift office that he has

set up near a heat tank, it looks like, or a hot water tank, a breaker box that he's written on with some kind of dry erase marker, some notes for work. And then he has a Dollar Tree candle called Moonlit Starry Night that smells like Axe Spray. And I told you this yesterday when our recording deleted about this candle scenario. And it's a really stinky candle to be honest. And it gave me a headache after being down here for an hour yesterday. So I will likely have a migraine by the time we get finished. Do you think it was from the Dollar Tree? Oh, it was from the Dollar Tree for sure.

Oh, good. Okay. Yeah. He always goes to the Dollar Tree and buys candles. And it really is one of my pet peeves. It really chaps my ass. You know, I really just don't like it. I can't stand you. I hope you know that. It chaps my ass. I'm more of a, maybe like Bath & Body Works candle, but then when you had that explosion at your house, I kind of like went off that. So maybe I should get on the Sensey, you know? Sensey's where it's at. I mean, they have diffusers. Now they have cordless and, you know, all that shit. So I definitely think that you should hop on the Sensey bandwagon

for sure. Do you have me to tell you what Will has written on this wall down here? Yes, I do. Okay. Do your best until you know better, then do better. Exclamation. Oh, I actually love that. I think I might tweet that later. I actually hate him for that. I think that was amazing. He wrote on my wall with chalk. Like, can you not?

I'm going to get a chalk wall in my new house office. I'm definitely going to do that and I'm going to pin his court. Do you think he would write a quote on my new office wall when I move? Do you think he'll write one for me? Oh, absolutely. His handwriting is atrocious, so it will not look in keeping with any type of decor. But yes, he absolutely will. Can we just talk for a second about the quarantine and what we've been doing and how we've been handling it? Because we have been off air since December and I feel like we missed Christmas. So basically, Merry Christmas to everybody now that it's...

Happy New Year. Yeah, Merry Christmas. Happy New Year now that it's May. I just want to talk about quarantine and what we've been doing and how you're handling yourself because I've gone through phases, to be honest. I think I can definitely relate to that. I feel like I've gone through phases where some days I'm like, wow, this is really, really depressing. And some days I'm like, honestly, I could get used to this. And some days I'm so fucking productive. I'm like, who the fuck am I? And some days I wonder why the fuck I'm alive because I don't know what the fuck

I'm doing anymore. Hmm, good. So basically yesterday, I got on live Instagram for probably over an hour. Like, what has my life come to? I don't get on Instagram live by myself. I normally wait until I have like, I'm with a friend and we answer questions and we're bullshitting. No, I got on live with a fucking face mask on and I'm talking about why I don't get on top. Like, I... Wait, wait, wait, wait, slow down. Why were you wearing a face mask on live? You were not contracting COVID-19.

No, not that kind of mask, like a clay mask. Oh, okay. I was like, wait a minute, hold up, but wait, while you're saying that, just hold up one second, because I got a message last night and somebody said, ask Kil about being on top and salt tomorrow for coffee combos. She will understand. Yeah. And I don't understand. You missed all of that. You missed... So you came on live, like, towards the end. So prior to that, I was just saying how number one, I was drinking water and someone was like,

you shouldn't drink that Walmart water because it's high in sodium. And I was like, well, I don't normally drink this bottle of water. It's just what I had laying around. I normally drink Ascension. I look at the Ascension bottle. It also was purified and has sodium in it. So I'm like, fuck this. You guys literally are telling me how to put... I'm doing my skincare routine. They're telling me what I'm doing wrong, how to do it right. These people are disagreeing. This person's telling me not to drink water with fucking sodium in it. I'm like, you know what? Shut the fuck up because at this point in this moment during the quarantine, I have given no fucks. I'm just over it. I'm done. And I'm like...

I'm in survival mode, people. I'm just at a point where it's like, I said to these people on Instagram live, I said, when I'm scrolling on Instagram, and we've talked about this so many times, or when I'm walking on a busy street, I am not paying attention to what people are doing to the point where I'm like, oh, wow, they shouldn't drink that. Wow, they shouldn't wear that. Wow. They rub their moisturizer up instead of down and they gave themselves a double chin. Like, I'm not doing those things. So it is so weird to me that I'm on Instagram live, like sharing my boredom with you guys. And this is how you guys treat me is like

telling me that everything in my life is wrong. Everyone should do better, including myself. But I'm not telling somebody how to rub on their moisturizer. And at the point that I do, then I'm so bored that I need to find something to do. Yeah. But I mean, it was funny. It made for a funny Instagram live. The whole getting on top thing, I think it came up because of the TikTok that I did about how everyone sees me because I have three baby dads, which I think I'm going to change that. I don't have three baby daddies. I have two baby daddies and an ex-husband. It's very different.

I like that. I like that play. So I think that I'm going to change it. So anyway, I did this TikTok and it was like, the song I want him to blah, blah, blah, blah. So it was like, can you see, wait, can you sing it for me? I forget how the tune goes. No, I won't sing it. I will not sing it. I'll play you the, I'll play it for you here. It's less than 15 seconds. So we'll be able to use it on air. I'm going to play it. Are you ready? Yes. Okay. Hold on. Okay. Here we go. So anyway, that's the lyrics. You know what? I was dancing. So I said, this is how people think that I am. And I was just explaining how I would never be

able to go to, you know, a club or a bar or just an event, right? And be like meeting someone for the first time and going home with them or inviting them home with me. Like I would never be able to do that because one, I'm so fucking awkward. And two, I'm not, I'm one of those people, and I'm sure a bunch of people can relate. Mind you, I'm not judging anyone who could, who has a high body count. I do not give one single fuck. And I said that last night too. But for me, it takes me so, I mean, it took me like a year to get super comfortable with Chris. And I mean, I don't know, you have to be emotionally invested in this. Yes, like, I have to trust them and know that like, if I do something weird or like something like happens,

we can like laugh about it. Do you know what I mean? If somebody knew, I would literally be mortified if something went awry. You know what I mean? Same. Yeah, same. So it's just like, I just, and I'm very weird about kissing. Like I feel like making out with like random people for me. Like I'm just not into it. I feel like kissing is like more of an intimate thing for me. Yeah, 100%. Like, 100%. Like, I'm not just gonna kiss a rando because you think I'm cute. No. We don't know what where their mouth has been. No, I'm just not into it. So I was saying like, my leg and then somehow we got on the topic of being on top. And I was just like, honestly, like, I'm not going to get on top of someone new because if I start huffing and puffing because

I'm so out of breath and my legs are burning, why do I want to do that with someone new? You know what I mean? Bye. Bye. I would have done it with Chris because he would have been like, okay, you're out of breath. We'll switch. But like, I feel like I have some random. Oh my gosh. Are we seriously? If it was someone else, I wouldn't have to thug it all the way out until my legs gave out and I just don't heal the same anymore. I cannot pull a muscle these days. Do you know what I'm saying? Well, I absolutely know what you're saying because I feel decrepit. You're like healthy and fit. I know. But you know, sometimes I just feel like an elderly. And so I'm just, you know, I'm really just set in my ways and I'm just going to be with Will forever. And

that's, that's just that. You know, and it's probably really great for like sex. I'm not asking about your sex life. I'm just saying, but no, it's great enough. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like it's a good, I just, I couldn't, I couldn't be with some random person because for those reasons, like I just couldn't. Yeah, that's just not a thing. Okay. Well, now I'm glad that you clarified and I'm also kind of sad that I missed out. But you know, I was busy watching Waco. So I was doing better things. What is that? You haven't watched Waco on Netflix, the documentary? First of all, Waco is where my sister and my dad live. Really? Okay. So you have to watch this documentary because it's about this cult and how they got swarmed.

Basically the, the FBI and the ATD or something like that, I forget what they're called, but they basically go in and bust up this cult and it's just like, it's insane. I haven't finished it, but anybody who's watched Waco, I want to know how you guys feel about it because honestly, I feel like the cult thing and the man having sex with all the women, but then they're married to other people is, is wrong. And I don't agree with the way that they were living, but I also don't agree with the way that they were basically killed and the women and children's lives were put at risk just because they wanted a case. Like I think that that's just insane. So I want you to watch it Kale and then anybody who's listening, I want to know your feedback and how, how you feel about it

because I definitely don't agree with the whole cult thing, but you said it's a show or it's a documentary. It's kind of, it's like a, a docu series. Yeah. It's like a docu series. And I haven't finished it, but I plan on finishing it probably tonight or tomorrow. I've been trying to watch like two episodes every night and I've been watching it for the past two nights and I really like it. So yeah. So anyway, in other news, can we talk about how I was minding my own business as normal, go to Dunkin Donuts, get a really nice coffee, go to exit out on the road and some lunatic in a truck comes up beside me, starts spinning his tires flings gravel into my windshield and bust my entire fucking windshield. Are you joking? I'm not joking. I'm literally not joking. So now what?

Oh, so this person decides that he's going to start driving off. So I just call the police because I'm like, what am I supposed to do? I mean, it's not like I was just like on the highway and a rock like happened to bust my windshield, you know, it was not a situation like that. He literally was going to Chick-fil-A. He came out in a lane that wasn't a lane, hits gravel, starts spinning his tires, water starts flinging everywhere, gravel starts flinging everywhere and hits my vehicle. I feel like that's more of an accident type thing. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently in the state of Georgia, if your vehicle gets hit by a rock and the rock is in the road, then it has to go under your comprehensive and you have to pay your deductible for that. They don't hit anybody.

Wait, if the rock is in the road and you hit it, if the rock is in the road and it hits your vehicle, whether it came from another vehicle or not, or whether he was spinning his tires or whatever, they still make you pay your deductible for it. So basically, that happened to me before how he hit a four by four and it fucked up my whole alignment, but it came off of a truck and we, it still had to come off of my insurance, but I was like, wait, this was on Team Mom, right? Yes. Yeah. Remember? Yeah. That's so good. That's so good. And you guys were like fighting, you guys were like fighting in the car because he hit it. Yes. And that was my car. So I was like, what the fuck? And we were arguing about Chick-fil-A and going ice skating. Damn it. And this was

in a Chick-fil-A parking lot too. What? Yeah. It was a scene we're more like than you would think. I know because you know, we just have these accidental crashes. Oh my God. I was really devastated about this though because actually last year a hawk flew into my windshield. I think I talked about this on the podcast before and it cracked my entire windshield and it was on May 12th and then this happened like on May 18th. So it's literally been like exactly a year since I had to have my window windshield replaced. So I'm like, basically you just need to throw the whole fucking car away. Okay. So are you going to get a new car? I haven't decided. I think I'm going to get, the logical thing is to get the windshield replaced and like not be dramatic, but also I

kind of like the fact of being dramatic and planning to get a new car. So that's really funny that you say that because a couple weeks ago my friend changed my wipers on my car. Yeah. And he went to, I don't know if he like leaned on the windshield or like how it happened or if they like slammed down really hard. It literally cracked my entire windshield and I also was like, wow, I should just get a new car. So that's really funny that I won't because I'm like, my car is, I have a really good interest rate. I don't have a really high car payment. Like I'm just going to just leave it and I'm going to fuck it out. But like I made him pay for the windshield. So I'll probably just repair it. It's so funny how we can be so dramatic in life,

but then also like come to our senses. I love that about us. Okay. Yeah, I love it. You said, okay, I love it. I don't know if you feel like this though, but I feel like as I've gotten older, the need to have new things is just not as important to me. Um, it used to be very, very important to me. And now I feel like, like my cars, I believe it's a 2018 or 2019. And normally I want to get the new body style, which is like every seven years, but because I got my truck so late, I'm just going to keep it, pay it off and just kind of ride it until the wheels fall off. Like, but five years ago, I would have been like, no, I have to get rid of this. I have to get the newest thing. I have to get the nicest thing. And it's just like,

honestly, nobody gives a fuck cause when we're all dead, we can't take our shit with us. So it's not really important. You know what? I have come to that conclusion as well. I just don't feel like, I always want like nice and shiny things. And I don't know if that's just like an incredibly like flawed part of me, or if I'm just, it's like an OCD thing or like what, what it is. But I like all of my stuff to look like nice and new. And especially a car. I'm like, I need it to be like shiny and like nice. And now I'm just kind of like, that's great. My car has a ding and a side cool. Jackson beat the hubcaps with a bat. Awesome. I have a cracked windshield. Cool. You know, it's like, yeah, I mean, you can still have like, keep your things nice. I mean, but maybe not spend,

like I hit a mailbox a couple months ago, and I got a scratch in the front of my bumper. And I was like, normally like two years ago, I would have replaced it and repaired it immediately. But I'm like, as long as it looks, it still looks decent. And it's not super noticeable. I'm not gonna fix it. Like I'm just not same, same. Um, well, and in other news, I want to talk about the quarantine trends and like what we've been doing to pass time. Okay, I participated in the tie dye. I have not. Mine didn't really turn out. So there's that. I'm doing TikTok. Okay, you are doing TikTok and I haven't gotten on the TikTok train. I definitely think I don't need to because I'm an obsessive personality type person. So when I enjoy something or I like to do something, then I just like,

keep doing that. So I think that that would waste a lot of my time to be honest. And then the banana bread making, I make banana muffins, basically the same thing, never made them before until quarantine. And now I'm like, okay, great, I'm gonna make those basically every day. Try the bleach dye some stuff. Can somebody please tell me why the fuck my bleach didn't work? Um, did you use like bleach bleach or like Clorox or like toilet bowl cleaner? Like what did you use? No, Kale, I didn't use toilet bowl cleaner on my t-shirt. Someone did on TikTok and it worked. Okay, so maybe I should have used toilet bowl cleaner because I use Clorox and I thought it would work and it literally didn't do anything. I put it in the sun like I did out of all the trends

that you've named. I've done none of them. But I did do the strawberry thing with the salt. And I did TikTok. And I also, well, I got the ingredients to do, have you seen the cake cookies where you like, you like, they're fluffy like a cake? No. Yeah, fluffy like a cake, but it's a cookie. No, wait, what is this? So I don't know, I saw it on TikTok to recipe. So I got all the stuff to make them. So maybe I'll do that today and I'll send it to you and see how it works. Okay, well, you let me know how it works. But I also want to know what other people have done the strawberry thing. And you can explain that because I didn't do it. All I know is, is when you sent me the video of the bugs coming out of the strawberries, I was like, Oh my gosh, and then you said you were going

to do it. So I was so excited for you to do it. And then when it didn't work, I felt really offended. Okay, so Lindsay and I love strawberries. And I sent her this TikTok of somebody putting their strawberries in saltwater. And evidently, you can do it for vinegar with vinegar too. Or you can mix the saltwater with the vinegar, but I feel like that's like overkill. And I don't really want to eat vinegar strawberries. But anyway, so I was like, let me, I just got two big containers of strawberries. Let me see if bugs come out of mine. But long story short, I did the TikTok. And I have elite strawberries. I am elite. And there was no bug in them. So I did not experience little seed like critters coming out of my fruit. But I didn't put vinegar

in mine. I only use saltwater. So I told Lindsay that I would try the second container with vinegar. So where did the girl get the strawberries that had all the bugs? Because that's the most important thing. That's the most important thing. We just need to know where she got those. So we know not to go to the shop there. Right. I agree. And you said yesterday, if the bugs came out, would we still eat it? And I think like the logical thing is, is we're going to be grossed out. If you really start thinking about meat and stuff, like I get grossed out, but I'm still going to eat it. Okay. So yeah, I think we'll still eat it. Absolutely. Because like, I don't really know that I'm eating a bug. And don't you eat like a certain amount of bugs like every year anyway?

What is that thing about like, if you eat peanut butter, you eat. Oh, see, I don't know that. I only know about the like six spiders a year or something like that. I think that might be a lie. Do you think it's a lie? Are you real? I don't know if I feel like six is a really high number. I mean, I'm sure a bug or two crawls into my mouth at night at some point during the year. But I don't have a spider problem at my house. Me either. So I just don't see myself eating or my kids eating six spiders a year. Like I just don't, I mean, we have more stink bugs here. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I feel like I would wake up if a fucking stink bug crawled into my mouth. I would certainly hope so. And if you didn't, I would be very concerned. I mean, it's kind of

like crunchy, right? So like, are you just like chewing it and then digesting it? Or is it just like, I think it literally crawls down your throat. That freaks me out. Maybe that's like whenever you have itchies at night, like in your throat, maybe that's what it is. It's like a spider going down. Oh my God, I can't. I literally cannot. So can you please tell me how has homeschool been going? Because I have my stories. Homeschool has been very so Lincoln will breeze through all his shit. But also he struggles to stay focused because he just doesn't want to do work at home. Same. And I know his teacher does not struggle with him like this in the classroom because obviously it's like a classroom setting. And so luckily for him, like the workload hasn't been

crazy. So I mean, it's just like a little bit of an argument. But Isaac, on the other hand, he's so so much of a perfectionist and wants to take his time with every single project that I'm like, but he feels rushed because Lincoln gets done and he wants to go be with what, you know, do whatever Lincoln's doing, but he can't because he needs to do more work because he's older. So that's been a little bit hard. I also don't make them get up at, you know, at school hours. Like if they wake up at 10, we'll start the schoolwork at 10, you know, right? Yeah. So what are your stories? So I mean, we've been out of school since the second week of March. And I don't know if everybody's been out at that same time or not. But I feel like the first week was definitely

like a transition week, just like in the house in general, Will being home and not going to work and us like learning how to like coexist because I'm working, he's working, Jackson's got school. And I also had what I thought was COVID-19 that first week that Jackson was out of school. So I was kind of self isolating while Will was trying to help him do the online school. And by the time I came out of self isolation on that Friday and started checking Jackson's work, Will had like done it all wrong, like not made him do anything right. And I'm like, okay, so basically his teacher probably thinks we're incompetent. So I need to like text her and let her know that it really was my husband that's incompetent and like not me. And then we kind of kind of got it all worked out,

got him caught up, he was perfect, but he doesn't do well with Will because they're both very personality like alike. And so they think everything's a joke, you know, so it really gets on my nerves to be honest. And yeah, he did great. He was supposed to finish at a C reading level. And I think he finished at a level E. So that's good. And that's really good. And we're just, you know, ready for first grade. I know that like when he started kindergarten, I was really not like depressed. I don't think depressed is the right word. But I really didn't know how to manage my time or to like really do life without him, which is kind of bad because I think I became more dependent on him than he necessarily was dependent on me. And so I kind of enjoyed the time having him at home

because I was able to see like what he's actually doing in school and how he's learning because, you know, just helping with homework, you're not seeing all of the things that they're doing at school. Right, right, right, right. So I've enjoyed that part of it. And enjoyed, you know, fixing him lunch and stuff like that. Because as you and I've talked about before, your kids will eat you out of house and home and Jackson also Jackson also will do that. But he's like a snacker and he likes sweets. So like he'll do a drive by on the pantry and you know, grab like 10 m&ms. And he thinks that's like a meal. And it's like, you know, really like a sandwich and a piece of fruit and like a yogurt, I would be considered a meal, but you eating 10 m&ms, there's no probably not. No,

and he's like, Well, they're nutritious because they have peanuts in them. And I'm like, but no, that's not really how it works. It's smothered with chocolate, you know, so yeah, I've enjoyed that part. I feel like a lot of people I have heard saying that they're ready for things to go back to normal. But I have kind of accepted a lot of this is like new norms for us that I don't feel like will change. Do you feel like that? I think a lot of it is new norms. I do. I will say that I agree with you on it's almost like we were this gave us the opportunity to be to reconnect with people that we were not spending time with, you know, because of life catches up to you. And it's almost like we were forced into reconnecting with our loved ones in a different

way. And so I do I do like that aspect of it. Like I wouldn't have all this time with my kids right before the baby's born, you know, like that part of it is so nice, like as a family of four, but a lot of this is new norms. I mean, I sent you the CDC, the new CDC guidelines for school next year, and I just don't see how that's possible. So I definitely think that these are new things that we should be adjusting to for a long period of time, not just in the immediate near future. And I think, I mean, you know how impeccable like my house is super super clean, like it's spotless, like you could literally eat off the floor. I am really weird about germs and stuff like that. So I already was implementing a lot of this stuff. And you and I have talked about

this about how I don't understand why it's taking the United States government to tell us that we need to wash our hands, like that's mind blowing to me. But I think a lot of these things are eye opening for people who don't do a lot of the things to stay healthy and clean and just mindful that it it's an opportunity for them to open their eyes to see, okay, maybe we should be a little bit more cautious. I think it's caused people to slow down a little bit and take life in versus, you know, just flying by the seat of their pants, which yeah, you know, whatever. But I will say, I don't know how many people who are listening have seen the little blue thing that was posted online about the CDC guidelines for reopening schools. But I do want to say that my son's

principal posted that yesterday with an overlay of something. And it said that this was not accurate. It is not a primary source. Someone rewrote this to eliminate key wording and incite panic on social media. These are not guidelines, your considerations if possible. The CDC does not decide how schools operate. Public schools are under the control of individual state governments, just as our governor and Department of Education decides to close schools, they will decide when to reopen and how they will operate. In short, most Facebook shares are used to create drama and are usually false, ignore them. So the list was very concerning when I originally read it, because what were you saying about the mask thing, Kale, about kids under age two?

Two and older have to wear a mask. I mean, Isaac Lincoln, shit, how many kids do I fucking have? Lux is two and a half. And he would never keep a mask on his face. That's so unrealistic. And I feel like, no, I'm not going to force my two-year-old or three-year-old to wear a mask. I'm just not going to do it. I mean, it's kind of crazy, to be honest, because first of all, I don't know how safe that would be for a child that age to have something on their face for a long period of time. And I just don't see the kids being able to do it, because they don't understand why they're doing it. So it doesn't make sense. And a lot of it saying that there can't be shared items, and the same kids have to be with the same teachers throughout the entire day. There's no

switching of teachers. There's no cafeteria. There's no recess. I mean, how do you have kids in school for seven or eight hours a day, and you don't have a recess, you know, like a break? I'm not going to send my kids to school to sit there and be, no, for all of that, I'm just going to home school. Do you know what I'm saying? I might as well continue what I'm doing where they can get up and go to the bathroom as they please. And I'm not worried about them getting yelled at, because they won't keep a mask on their face. Do you know what I'm saying? Like I would rather, for all of those things that are unrealistic, I mean, even the bus schedules for the working parent, I don't work and I could not, I would not be able to adjust my schedule to accommodate

those guidelines. Like I just, it wouldn't happen. So yesterday, I got a notification from where our school board had met. And so school's supposed to start back on August 3rd. And the meeting minutes came out, and it was saying that, you know, they would like to be able to start on August 3rd, might not be realistic. And they also don't know what, you know, public health officials are going to be saying two months from now, but the determination would be made on July 1st, and that it would cost an additional 2.25 million for additional custodial services, cleaning supplies, and personal protective equipment, just for our county alone, to fall within the guidelines of what they need to be in. So just your county, just my county. And that was with,

that's, they also did a 14% budget cut for the annual year. So they also are having to, you know, reallocate funds for stuff. They are, you know, having to let, you know, people go for jobs that they might not necessarily need because they're having to do these budget cuts. And now they're going to incur an additional 2.25 million to just reopen schools to have the equipment that they need. So it was basically saying that the teachers were going to be going through extensive training over the summer for the digital learning days. And they would be more prepared for learning digitally. So I'm just wondering if there will be options for you to go back to school if you choose to, or if, you know, there'll also be options if you choose to keep your child at home and they,

you know, provide assistance with digital learning. I just wonder what it's going to look like, because I can't imagine. I just honestly, it just this, I already thought that teachers were under fucking paid. They deserve way more than way more. And I have said before that it also is like putting a child in a box at the same time. However, I've gotten really lucky with my kids' teachers. They're underpaid. And I don't know how, I mean, we're talking budget cuts, how much it's going to cost for this to happen. And then what, but what about the teacher salary? I mean, they're doing more work because they're home with their own kids, and then still having to do online teaching all day, and still having to do Zooms and appointments and IEPs and all these other things.

It's like, how can we sit here and put this work more workload onto these teachers and expect them, do you know what I'm saying? But we're going to cut their budgets. We're going to cut their pay. Like it's just unreal. How the fuck does that happen? I had the same conversation with Will the other night. I said, how do they expect these teachers to have to operate in this way that is completely untraditional at this point? It's way more work than what, you know, they were already having to do. They're already underpaid and then they're going to cut, you know, 14% into the budget for the annual year. And they're providing services that, you know, really are beyond their pay grade. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I agree with you. It's insane to me. So I just want to know like

what other people feel like they're going to do when schools do reopen. Are you going to continue to keep your children at home and do the digital learning? Are you going to send them to school? I mean, if that's if schools open, going off of this topic, we also talked about, you know, since COVID-19 has been a huge, I want to say, thrown a huge curb wall at us. A lot of people have obviously lost their jobs, but many people have been able to work remotely. I wonder how many companies will actually keep their employees working remotely. That's another thing that I was kind of interested in, because I'm like, there are several companies who pay for an office building to have their employees come work from an office. But all along, prior to this,

they could have worked from home. So I'm curious to see how many how many companies will opt to do that. I was lucky enough to kind of keep pothead up and running, because my employees all do work. They already worked remotely. But for companies, especially small companies, I mean, what is that? They can't come back at all, some of them. And some bigger companies are still taking a huge loss, but they're able to stay afloat by keeping their employees at home. So what I wonder what that's going to look like, I wonder too, and you and I had this conversation the other night that, you know, I feel like this has changed a lot for us for a really long time. Like, I look at life completely differently now than before, because I think that we've just had longer

time to digest and just more time on our hands to be able to sit and thought and think about the things that like really matter and will shaving like two hours off of being in the car a day from from work and his job, he literally can do just as much from home as he can in the office. And everything just seems to run smoother and happier in our house. And I just don't know that when the offices do reopen, if he will go back, I mean, I think he plans to have a conversation with his boss about, you know, maybe permanently staying at home. And then that looks like maybe relocating for us. Okay. So that I mean, which might be a nice fresh start for y'all. I know. So I'm kind of excited about it. So we are kind of putting the moving on hold until we see if

he's going to be able to basically indefinitely work from home, because if that's the case, then you know, we definitely will be relocating. So I don't want to say where we'll be relocating to, but it will definitely be a relocation. So I know it's just exciting. I'm like, it's exciting, but also scary at the same time. And I think it's just opened up different opportunities for different thought processes that I'd never probably would have had had it not been, you know, from being at home and thought. Actually, on a completely different note, I want to cover this before we get off. And I think you know where I'm about to go. Don't surprise me. Oh, it's not going to be a surprise, but like kind of a surprise. Can somebody please explain to me why David

Eason keeps resurfacing? Oh, shit. Okay, let me, can I clarify this? And you know what, we might go over the time with this, but I'm okay with it. All right, David has body shamed me for years. I mean, like, incessantly, randomly, he's done it on at reunions, he's done it on Instagram, on Twitter, etc. So I tweeted David, David better never come from my body ever again. Okay, it was probably unwarranted. I didn't, I did not in that tweet mention anyone else, but David, I did not call anyone fat. I did not bring up Janelle. I did not bring up Brianna. I did not bring up any of these fucking people, but David, some people, including Janelle and Brianna, who have absolutely no fucking business to ever come for me for any fucking thing, including an ugly ass horse picture,

which is a separate conversation for another episode. Yes, they, those two people specifically have no fucking business coming to me, coming for me about anything, because they, you know what, we're not going to get into it. So anyways, some, these two girls specifically go on a rant, a tangent, whatever, start posting about me, ladi, ladi, ladi, ladi, ladi. I didn't bring up your names. I didn't call you fat, whatever you deduced on your own. And that goes for the trolls too. If they don't like what I said, oh, fucking well, I directed what I said to David because all David does is body shame. But now Janelle is having this body image positivity movement, which is fine. That's completely fine. You don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get to have a body image positivity

movement when you've gained weight. Because you, when you're body shaming other people, when you're body shaming other people and you're standing by your husband, who has done it for years. And Janelle has done it to me too. And I didn't even call her out. She's, she's called me fat. She's called me a giant. She's called me an ogre. She's called me all kinds of shit. And furthermore, they're saying that I'm David posted that I got multiple surgeries, including like though. No, I got surgery one fucking time in 2016. And you're damn right. And what's it to them? Honestly, and I'm pretty sure their friends, including Janelle, have also had surgery or surgeries. So to me, it was more me calling David out for the hypocrisy

than it was about body, it wasn't about body shaming for me. So I mean, to be perfectly honest with you, more people have supported me in, in what I said. So I am thankful for that. I mean, if you think that I was body shaming Janelle, based on what I said to David, then I'm sorry that you feel that way, but that's on you. That's what you perceived my tweet as. So, yeah, I just think that it's so hypocritical that you can post a picture of yourself and want to talk about, you know, basically loving you for who you are and being body positive and, you know, all of this stuff and addressing that you've gained weight and blah, blah, blah. But you weren't body positive when you were shaming somebody else when they might have struggled with their weight.

Oh, and I'm the first to, right. And I'm the first to admit that I struggle with my weight, my weight fluctuates. I think 2016 was my best year. I was able to maintain my surgery, which is what a lot of people don't realize is that I actually was working hard to maintain what I was trying to jumpstart the whole time with the surgery. And then I ended up getting pregnant and, you know, I ended up with a mommy bod, but he posted a picture of me on the beach in 2018. We're almost at the middle of 2020. So if you're going to body shame me further from what you've already done over the past five years, please use a recent picture. I'm pregnant. Please use a recent picture of me and let everyone know that you're making fun of me now because using a picture

of me from 2018 is probably not. I mean, come on now. Right. If we're going to compare images, let's compare a current recent. Yeah. Yep. And, you know, it's not just the fact that he's body shamed you. It's happened to other people. He, you know, I guess doesn't like me or they don't like me because I have a podcast with you and I'm friends with you. The best way that they could attack me is, oh, your dad's gay. Okay. Well, in fact, he's not, he has a wife and he has children. And if he was, it's none of your damn business. So if you're listening, mind your fucking business. I just, I feel like I maybe should have just thought the tweet to myself and not really said anything. So that was probably my fault, but honestly, it was just so flabbergasted by

the hypocrisy that it was just one of those things where I was like, the audacity, like and then Janelle, and then Janelle's posting on her Instagram about me supposedly telling her mom that I cheated on hobby in 2015. What relevance does that have? Period. Which you did heroin on TV and I didn't bring that up. It's so irrelevant. And you also faked a divorce so that you could get back on Teen Mom. That happened. Didn't she separate from David and then ended up getting back with him? Oh my God. Oh my God. I didn't even think about like, these are just like, if it was someone who lived a perfect fucking life and like had no skeletons in their closet. Okay, fine. Maybe I see why you're throwing a stone. Just, I don't know. You had a bad day

and you did that. I don't fucking know. But just stop. Nobody cares. Like, let's also like, when you come for me and when you want to insult me, be factual. Know exactly what the fuck you're talking about. I did not have multiple liposurgery. I did not cheat on hobby. I didn't. I filed for divorce and if I cheated, so did he. So I think that's a mutual understanding between hobby and myself and neither one of us see it that way anymore. It just is what it is. And it's also also just old fucking news. When you come at me and you come for me, make sure you are factual. Yep. It's that simple. And while you're on the topic of when you file for divorce, I truly do feel like if you've gotten to the point where you are filing for divorce and you're both

under the same mindset that this is over at the point that you file that I feel like you're free to do what you want to do. I mean, I definitely think there was like a back and forth period for us. I definitely think that, but we were both doing the same thing. So just to say that I cheated and he didn't isn't really fair when we were doing the same thing, but also just like, what the fuck are we doing? You know what I mean? So, but again, he's in a relationship now and this is five years ago. So at this point, I think if hobby and I can forgive whatever the fuck the situation was, there's absolutely no reason why. But you know what? It does speak volumes about where we're at in life. I mean, you have to bring up stuff. My beach picture from two and a half years ago,

my alleged cheating situation from five years ago. What about now? Right? Like, what about nothing? You have nothing to speak on now. So I guess that I'll let that I'll let that slide. Let's just let let it go. I am not a singer, but I wish I was. Okay, well really quick before we go, we didn't touch on the fact that the last time that we left off that we didn't know that you were pregnant in San Diego whenever we recorded shit, you're right. Yeah. And Monica basically blew up the whole thing and then you go home and find out that you're pregnant. So let's just touch on that really quick before we go and then we're out of time. I am I got home from San Diego and it was really weird because I was eating a burrito. Actually, we have a picture. We should

post the picture eventually of me eating the burrito. Yes. I wanted this burrito and I took like two bites of it and I was so uncomfortable and I just like it I literally podcasted with my with my pants on buttons like I just like could not function. I was so I felt so weird. And Monica, the medium had said that I was probably she said she couldn't verify my pregnancy at the current time but that there would be a fourth baby in the near future and it would be a boy. And I went home from San Diego and I found out that I was pregnant and then shortly thereafter I found out it was a boy and I was like what the fuck is life like what is happening real life. Yeah. So here we are seven and a half months pregnant with the baby boy and Monica the medium said it first

and I have had I will now say I have had two mediums tell me that my next child is a girl. So really? Yeah. So we will find out if that if that is true or not because I do want to confirm that that Will and I are going to be on the trying game very soon. So I'll keep everybody updated. I'm ready. I can't wait to see a baby girl Campbell if it's a girl. I'm like I don't know. I guess someone's got to have a girl because I got four fucking boys and I can't believe this should happen to me. I know I don't see how somebody has four in a row in a row but then I know somebody who has five girls and it's like how does that happen? I don't get it. That's insane. I don't get it. So it looks like we're out of time though. I just wanted to say that we're going to

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