Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 11: Prom Pregnancy, Parenting Boys, & Divorce

Episode Date: January 18, 2018

Kail and Lindsie talk about their busy lives, and how they're nervous about podcasting via phone for the first time. The ladies discuss how it feels when a divorce is final, and you don't want to miss their answers. Kail and Lindsie talk about being guarded with their children and the relationships that they allow in their lives. Kail reveals how Issac was conceived after prom and spills all the details. Lindsie admits that she will be the in-law from hell and claims she and Will are polar opposites and parent differently. They agree that the relationship for moms with boys is different than any other. Moving on to silly subjects, Lindsie talks about how nasty it is to wear shoes in the house and they both say their boys' farting is out of control. Plus, they talk about the flu and Kail claims she's never actually had the flu. Today's show is brought to you by Bioclarity, for your first month for only $9.95 (plus free shipping) go to bioclarity.net/coffee. And don't forget to try Lindsie's new nut addiction (in all 3 flavors). Go to fistuq.com/coffee. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey guys, it's Lindsay and Kail. We're back with coffee combos, and this is the first time that we're recording from home. We weren't able to be together for this episode. And so you might hear Baby Lux in the background. He's with my friend so I could record the podcast. But I'm still super excited to be here. And Lindsay and I haven't really talked this week. So we have a bunch of stuff to talk about. Oh my gosh. I know. I'm so nervous for this episode because this is the first time that we've done it like this. Yeah, and it's out of your control a little bit. Yeah. Lux always crying. Oh, okay. So let's like catch up because I feel like so much has been going on. We haven't really talked.

So what's been going on? Okay. So first off, let's start with our car troubles because you sent me a photo of your car. It said like theft or something. Yeah. So the other day I don't even know what I was doing. I was having a really bad night. night and morning. And when I went to go take Isaac to the bus stop, my car said on the dash,

like, theft attempted. So someone tried to get into my car. Oh, wow. Yeah, I don't even know who it was. And I could have rolled the cameras back at home, like the cameras go on my driveway, but I almost just didn't want to know who it was. Oh my gosh, because it would have made you so mad if you, like, actually knew the person that it was. Yeah, I just don't even want to know. But part of me, you know that I would have rolled back the camera. Oh, yeah. You know that I would have rolled back the camera. you would have for sure, for sure. I would have been like, who is at my house and like what are they actually doing? And why are they trying to get in my car? No, yeah. They didn't get in. So for me,

it's like you didn't get in, but nice try. And if you try again, then I'll roll the cameras back. But right now, I just, I have too much going on to worry about if someone that I know or that like I'm close with is trying to get into my car. Like, that's the last thing that I want to hear or see. Oh my gosh. That's just so stressful. It's like why can people not be trustworthy? What happened with your car? Okay, so you know how particular I am about everything? Yeah. And of course, it would happen to my car.

I'm driving down 85, which is an interstate, and there's a bunch of like semi-trucks everywhere. Of course, I get stuck behind the truck that does not have a tarp over it and it has rocks flying out everywhere. It cracked your windshield? So it takes a chip out of my windchews. And it literally sounded like my whole car was breaking when it hit the window. And when I finally like realized what was going on, because you know, you kind of like panic a little bit when I kind of like like realize what was going on, then I was like, oh my God. So I like turn on the water really quick. I don't know why I turned on the water.

But I turned on the water and like tried to wipe off my windshield thinking that that would make it better. And it was just like a little chip in the windshield. So I called my insurance company and they were like, you can. and get it filled in and it'll do the trick, whatever, before it cracks. So I got the thing filled in. And of course, you know, like I'm in panic mode because I like everything to be perfect. I don't want to chip out of my windshield. Right.

So I go to get in my car on Saturday and I'm just be bopping down the road. Like, nothing's a problem. I look over to the right hand side of my car. Kale literally from the top of my windshield drug all the way across my windshield like completely cracked. Are you kidding? No. Like I'm seriously not kidding. And I was like, okay, so did this happen from like this incident or did somebody like slam my car with a baseball bat?

Like what actually happened? Because this looks terrible. Like it looks so bad. So then what did you do? You got to get a new windshield? Yeah, I've got to get a new windshield. And like so crazy because it costs like $200 to get a new windshield. And I would imagine the car has to be out of, you can't be, you can't have the car during that time.

So it's not only the money, but also the time without a car. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be without a car for probably like a day. And I'm like, I just don't have time for this. So basically right now I have a busted windshield and I wonder if people can see it. But at this point, I really just don't even care. It's like, you know what? Whatever.

I feel like the year has like tested from the latter part of 2017. like into the new year, I feel like my patience was tested so much and I'm so grateful for it because it's taught me to like learn to be a little bit slower and be okay with change and be accepting of like everything doesn't go perfect all the time. Normally me, I would have cried when that happened and I was just like, you know what, whatever, like what's another thing? Right. I mean, at this point it's like what is another thing?

Yeah. So that was my car troubles for 2018. Yeah, I was supposed to say at the beginning of 2018. I'm like, let's hope the thing doesn't completely break down. Like, that's probably what's going to happen next. I'm like, it's my brand new car too. Like, it would be different if it was like I had had it for like a million years, but it's like brand new.

Yeah. So it's like just throw the whole car away and get a new one. Yes. So, yeah. So anyhow, I noticed on social media, remember when we said that we would like take people's comments and like answer some of the questions. Yeah, yeah. And like a common reoccurring question that I saw over and over this past week was how does

it feel when a divorce is final? Oh my gosh. Okay, we can talk about that for sure. So how does it feel when a divorce is final? It's like mixed emotions, you know, because at first you're like, you don't really want to file or maybe you do. And then the process leading up to the actual like getting the decree is like you're anxious but you're all so sad because for me it was like, okay, I'm getting married. I'm supposed to love this person. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do and like creating this family.

But for me, my circumstances were so different than like everybody else's, I feel like. But it was heartbreak and relief and anger and sadness and happiness literally all in one day. Like when I got that decree in the mail, I was just like any emotion you could imagine feeling I felt it. Because I just wanted to be out of it so bad. But also it's the loss of the dream. Like the dream of having a family and being in a happy relationship and building this house together. And by house, I mean like the home and everything. in it and the kids and everything else. So it's like, I don't know. It's just like every emotion you could

ever imagine is in one little envelope. It's crazy. And people tell me all the time that they get it, but I don't think there's a way to truly describe it. And I know you haven't been divorced, so you're not really sure. But yeah, I guess I can't really put it in a nutshell. I can speak on the front of going through separation and like filing for divorce and going through that whole process. And I kind of feel like going through the process is going through tons of emotions. It kind of forces you to put yourself in a situation to where you have to face all of the emotions. And I think that's why a lot of people like don't file.

And it's like a battle for so long because you don't want to have to face those things. And you know when you finally do it that you have to face all of those problems. But for me, it was a wake up call. Because you're like, okay, do, is this the right decision? Am I making the right decision? And you kind of, for you probably were like, before I go through with this and realizing it was a wrong decision, you need to kind of decide beforehand if this is the right decision to follow through with.

Exactly. And that's kind of how I felt about the whole thing. I was just, like you said, it was a bunch of mixed emotions. And I'm sure I didn't experience like the extreme highs that you did because I never like made it to the end. You know, luckily we were able to. reconcile, but, you know, that's not everybody's final answer, and that's, you know, that's just what worked for me. But it did force me to kind of have to make a decision. It was like, okay,

you know, you can choose to follow through with this and this is going to be the outcome or you can choose to rectify the problems and then this is going to be the outcome. It's hard because I feel like when you are wanting to get divorced, I know so many people who, you know, they do end up reconciling, but not because necessarily they want to, but because getting out of a marriage is so much harder than what it sounds, like, oh, just divorce them. Oh, if you're not happy, just get divorced. But when you're married, the legal stuff and the assets together and the kids together and custody and, you know, whatever, you know, it's more expensive than anyone thinks. And a lot of times I know men and women that I'm friends with are not filing for divorce

because they can't afford it. So looking back on everything, it's so expensive. And I look back and I'm like all the money I spent to get married and then on top of it, the money to get out of it. And then moving forward with my life, do I even ever really want to get married again? because I don't ever want to have to go through the out if, you know, spending all the money to get out of it if that's not really what I want to be in anymore. You know what I mean? And so like that's kind of sad. And I feel like the people in our generation and who I would potentially date around here, they don't want, they don't value marriage or, you know, they are always, there's so much temptation, I feel like that nobody values like being with one person. And so like moving forward, I don't think I'll ever get married again because of everything I've been through in marriage and divorce and how it is to kind of like date and like be around people. Do you know what I'm saying? Well, I 100% agree, but with you saying all of that, I took two things from it. It's an emotional lesson, but it's also a financial lesson. So you're saying all of the right things that, yes, it was a

mistake. I wouldn't say a mistake because I don't really think that things like that, I don't think you get married like by mistake. I think it's all like part of the greater plan. But I think that you would know better next time that if you, you would think a little bit harder before saying like, yes, and you would think a little bit harder before filing for divorce or you would, I think you go through like all of this stuff and your emotions the second time were probably completely different going into something than the first time. Yeah. I mean, and that's true. I think women, hit like this like maturity peak or something around the age that I'm at now. And so maybe I would look at things differently moving forward when I feel like I meet the person. But I don't know.

Just getting out of a divorce is like out of a marriage is like to think about the whole going through the whole process again is crazy to me. And plus like I have already done so much damage. Like we've talked about this before. I don't ever want to like really introduce my kids to anyone again. Right, exactly. And I mean, I'm very guarded whenever it comes to Jackson and that's like any type of relationship in my life, whether it be like a friendship or, you know, whatever. I have always been like that since I've had Jackson and I always want like whatever

is the most stable thing for Jackson and only like appropriate relationships. So I think that's like good for you too to set boundaries. to know like, okay, I'm not going to invite every single person into my life and my kids' lives because I might not be long-term with this person and that's not fair. Yeah, and I feel like that goes for friendships too. Like my kids, and I think kids in general, I would think get attached to people just as friends. And so, you know, even if I have regular friendships, like I kind of have to be careful with who are coming into my kids' lives too.

Like, you know, I have my best friends that obviously my kids are around all the time, but I'm not going to introduce them to every single friend that I have necessarily. Yeah, I mean, do you feel like your position with being on TV and stuff, do you feel like you're like a little bit more guarded than what you would have naturally been before being on TV or do you feel like you're a guarded person in general? No, I think I'm definitely way more guarded now, especially being on TV. I swear, I feel like everyone's using me or like out to get me or something. I don't know.

It's weird. Yeah, see, I've always kind of been. guarded, so it was never like a change for me. Right. Okay. Well, that makes sense. I mean, if you're always like that. I'm just like that period, though, you know, like in any type of relationship, whether it be my parents, my spouse, my, I am the only relationship that I have ever had in my life that I have not been guarded is Jackson.

I guess it's like your most like pure relationship. I don't know. It's just, it's so different. Like I feel like he would never hurt me. Yeah, no. Mm-mm. But they probably will whenever they get. We're going to be looking back on this conversation like 10 years from now when our kids are driving.

Oh, yeah. And going to prom? Yeah, and we're going to be like, no. Like our kids aren't going to prom, just FYI. I got pregnant at prom. Not at prom when I left prom. What? Yeah.

Are you serious? Yes. Wait, you got pregnant with Isaac when. when you were at like when you left prom? Yeah. Please tell. So the speakers were like, I guess I went to Joe's prom at his school. We went to different high schools and the speakers kept like messing up and I was getting,

we were both over it. So we ended up leaving. We went out to eat in our prom attire. And then we ended up getting pregnant that night. And I know for a fact because I just like I know my body and I know the timeline of events. And that's when I got pregnant. Joe, after Joe's senior prom. Oh, my God.

Yep. I was a junior at another school and yeah, it was. Yep. So there's that. So Isaac's really not going to prom because he was considered prom. Yeah, for sure not. Yeah, no, we can, I'm going to plan a vacation the same week as prom every year that my kids think they're going to prom.

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All right, cool. So let's get back to the show. Could you imagine like honestly kill me with my personality and having one child? Like if I only ever have one child. I'm just wondering how you're going to, you're going to be like the monster in law. not the mother-in-law. You're going to be like the monster-in-law. Yes. Like, could you imagine me with Jackson with a girl? Like, I would tell her to get out. So let me ask you this. Is Jackson's dad as like, like, are you guys, do guys have similar

personalities when it comes to Jackson and stuff? Or are you just like very like control and he's kind of laid back? Or you both kind of like you both agree on like the same stuff? So we're actually, it's funny because our personalities are just totally different. Will's always been kind of like laid back. Nothing bothers him just like life and cruise control. And me, I'm kind of like, oh my God, we've got to like chase the dream and, you know, we've got to, you know, do this by this age and this by this age and have a baby by this age. So we're both totally different. Will's not like a planner. He's not, um, now if he does make a plan, he sticks to his plan. But as far as, you know, like having to be planned, he's not really that way. Will is very, very.

scheduled, he likes the structure of schedule. Got it. Okay. So I think that's like a huge compatibility factor for us because you know how I like a schedule and I don't like my schedule getting messed up. Yeah. Yeah, I know that. That's a huge thing for us.

As far as parenting, we're a united front when it comes to Jackson in front of Jackson, but we always butt heads behind the scene because I see things like one way and he sees things another way and Will doesn't understand the relationship kind of that I have with Jackson because moms with boys or their relationships I feel like are probably a bit different than if I had a daughter. She would probably have like a different relationship with me and a different relationship with Will. Yeah, I can see that. I feel like, I don't know, the bond between mother and son is just way different than,

like it's just on a different level than a father and son. And I can't really explain it. It's like one of those unexplainable things that I don't know. Like I always feel like I have to do for Jackson. I feel like if I had a daughter, I'm just like guessing. I don't know this for a fact. But if I had a daughter, I feel like she'd probably be more like self-sufficient and probably like a little bit more independent. Jackson is very dependent on me and he looks to me for everything. And if even if like, his dad does something that he thinks that, like, I wouldn't approve of. Jackson will tell on him. Yeah, I can see that. I feel like Isaac's not so dependent on me, but he will tell me about, well, my dad, oh, my dad, or my dad, you know, it's like he, I can see that. That's how I feel like that's more how Isaac is for sure. Yeah. And I mean, it could be like a first child thing too. So I'm not really, I'm not really sure. Maybe we should like ask our audience. Do they think? We should have Leah on our podcast. Leah is a mom of girls. And,

So I feel like we should maybe try to get her to come on. Yeah, that would be a good idea because at least we would hear like a perspective from somebody else. Because we have the same perspectives when it comes to boys because like our boys are the same. I feel like Jackson and Lincoln would be best friends if they lived near each other. We should actually ask someone who has both like a boy and a girl. Oh, true, true, a boy and a girl. So maybe we should ask Chelsea. Because then they would have two perspectives.

We need to find someone that has both. Yeah, for sure. because I just think you're right. I think if we had girls, they might be a little more dependent. Also because you do things a certain way, you're pretty independent. And I think the same of myself. So I think if we had daughters, they would be, I don't know. That's really weird to think about.

Jackson will straight up tell me he'll be like, mom, dad took me to get breakfast and he did not brush my teeth before we left the house. Just like little stuff like that. And it's like, okay, Jackson, but you're five years old. So, like, if you really knew that you were supposed to rush your teeth, it was okay for you to brush your teeth. Right. Well, Lincoln's the same way. Well, actually, you know what? Both my kids are the same way because I know when my kids don't brush their teeth and I inspect Isaac's teeth because he's older now. So like I want to make sure that he's getting all the spots and stuff like that. And he knows what I know when he doesn't do them right. And he'll also tell me like later on, oh, well, Lincoln didn't brush his teeth. Well, if you guys know that you're supposed to brush your teeth, you should go brush your teeth. I shouldn't be in there having to tell you every time you're supposed to brush your teeth. Well, and I'm kind of like to the point where it's like, okay, I mean, I know Isaac is older than like Jackson and Lincoln. But when I'm speaking on Jackson's terms and Lincoln's terms, you know, four and five years old, I'm like, okay, that's old enough that you should know your routine.

Like, I know that you know your routine. And I shouldn't have to like put the toothpaste on the toothbrush for you to be like, here, brush your teeth. You know that you brush your teeth three times a day. You know that you shower at least twice a day. Like get your funky butt in the shower and brush your teeth. You're funny. Like you butt.

Yeah, I know. And I'm just like not about it. My kids right now, they know their routines too, but it's like we tell them 30 times in a row and they're still not listening. And I'm asked everybody and I think, I mean, I'm sure our Twitter followers will disagree and be like, oh, my kid's perfect. But no, I have to tell my kids to do things several times and they know their routines. It's pretty frustrating. Well, and I'm just like, why am I? telling you this several times and like did my parents do this because i'm pretty sure they didn't are we we

need to follow up on that etiquette class because you know what now that we're talking about our kids and their behavior i said i was at um home last night i made the kids dinner and they're sitting up at the counter and i link in just farts at the dinner table and he's like oh i said excuse me so that means it goes away well i'm like one don't announce that you're farting at the table and also no it doesn't go away so i think we need to really follow through with this etiquette class but i think honestly beyond etiquette. I think it's an age thing because I was going to tell you about the farting situation. And Jackson just thinks like it is completely appropriate to just like rip ass anywhere. But if you say excuse me, then it goes away according to Lincoln. So it's fine.

Well, and according to Jackson, everybody makes mistakes. Oh, well, I guess is farting a mistake then? But I'm like, is farting really a mistake or is it like? Like, I don't even know. And the bad part is, it's like, I don't know if I need to go and get help because I'm sitting and, like, secretly laughing, even though it's not funny. And I'm just like, if you do this at school, I am mortified to know what your teachers think about me because, please, I hope you're not doing this. Don't you love that? And, like, when did their fart start smelling?

When do their breath start stinking? Like, when does it go from, like, baby breath, like, cute little baby milk breath? to like your breast stinks bro, go brush your teeth. I don't know because can you please explain that to me? Because I haven't experienced that yet. Oh my gosh. Like I, I'm dreading the day that looks like, I mean, when he's, oh my gosh, the baby breath right now is so cute. And I'm just like, as soon as he gets teeth and like starts to eat real food and waking, oh my God, no.

I look at myself every single day in the mirror and I'm like, I have three sons. Like sons. I will forever have men who fart at the dinner table and their breath stinks and they don't care if they leave the house without brushing their teeth. Like, what am I going to do with my life? Wait, so are you confirming that Lincoln and Isaac's breath stink? I mean, yeah, if they don't brush their teeth. Oh my gosh. Okay, so Jackson doesn't really have like terrible stinky breath whenever I smell his breath.

but maybe it's just because I'm his mom, but you're saying that your boys do and, like, you're their mom. So. If they don't brush their teeth, their breath stinks. And I'm like, get out of my face. Oh, my gosh. I would never tell Jackson, is that funny, like, or not? Like, I would never tell Jackson his breath stunk if it did.

Really? I'm nice about it. I'm like, go brush your teeth. And they know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't have to be like, oh, my God, your breath smells. But I'm like, go brush your teeth. And they know exactly what I'm talking about. But brush your teeth.

And then I won't have to tell you. You know what I'm saying? And now they're going to hear this. And they're going to be like, my mom was talking about how nasty my breath was. And they're going to be so embarrassed when they're like 16. I'm sure my teeth. I'm sure my breast stinks sometimes too. And I would hope they would tell me.

Well, I mean, I brush my teeth. I mean, I am weird. You know how we both are about dental hygiene. So I'm just not about. Well, Lincoln still like needs help brushing his teeth. And so like with him, I have to go up and help him because he just doesn't have the like dexterity to brush them right. He tries, but I always try to brush them first and then he can brush after.

Yeah, we do that too. It's a real freaking struggle. Yeah, we do that too. And I'm like, Jackson, like, you've got to get to the back. Like, you realize you do have teeth back there. They're not just like the forefront teeth. I'm pretty sure, and I might be wrong. But I think Randy, Chelsea's dad, he owns a dental practice.

He, I'm pretty sure it was him that said that kids don't typically have. have the dexterity to brush their teeth on their own until they can tie their shoes on their own. Okay. Well, we're definitely far from that because I feel like. I'm pretty sure that's what was said, but don't quote me on that. Well, that's interesting to know. So I guess I have the excuse. Will's always like, you need to make him be more self-sufficient or you need to make him do this.

Well, I'm like, okay, I let him be more self-sufficient and his teeth are going to be rotting out of his head. So. Right. So it's really not at what cost are you going to make him more self-sufficient. And speaking of shoe tying, when did, like, kids stop learning to tie their shoes? Like, I felt like we had to tie our shoes when we were in kindergarten. Oh, yeah, I for sure learned how to ride a bike and tie my shoes before kindergarten, 100%.

But now it's like kids have to wear, does like your kids have to wear Velcro shoes to school? Because Jackson, like, has to wear Velcro shoes to school. Are you kidding me? For safety purposes, so they don't trip on their shoestring. You're lying. No. Okay, that's just pure fucking laziness to me because Isaac knows how to tie his shoes and Lincoln's in preschool and he wears shoes. I mean, he wears the shoes with regular shoelaces and we all just just tie his shoes. I mean, he's going to learn before he goes to kindergarten. But no, they shouldn't have to wear fricing Velcro. They shouldn't have to wear Velcro. Yeah, so all of Jackson shoes are literally Velcro. It's like Velcro. Well, that sucks. Well, that sucks. Velcro Nike. Like Velcro is that kind of annoying? I mean, I guess I'm going to go.

with no because I guess it like helps me be lazy too because I guess I just like I don't know like I feel like our generation is just like so different because I know that I was potty trained by the time I was like 14 months old and Jackson was nowhere near close to that oh my kids gave me a run for my freaking money with the potty training thing that was they were three and a half when they got potty trained yeah so I'm just saying like I feel like that wasn't really we say thing it wasn't really a thing back then to let your kids be like peeing and pooping on themselves when they're like three and a half years old. Now it's kind of like we're all with like the convenience of time. So I feel like if we took a poll, I feel like more people would say that they

let their kids basically pee and poop on themselves until they were ready to have interest in the potty. And if you read any children's like books about potty training at child, it does say that from like a psychological standpoint that they should show interest before you start trying to potty train them. Oh, see, with Lincoln, with Isaac, I tried to force it too soon and he just like wasn't interested. So the accidents just kept coming and coming and coming. But I was the first time mom. So I had no idea what the hell I was doing. And then with Lincoln, he just had absolutely no interest no matter what.

And then, you know, I was about to give birth to Lux. And I was like, okay, Lincoln this weekend is no more public. ups. Like, we're not doing this anymore. And literally, he never complained or anything. Like, when I laid down that law, like, right before Lux was born, I said, your baby, a sibling, I didn't know at the time, I said, when your baby's born, you're going to, no more diapers. So, baby needs the diapers. And he was like, okay. And he was fine ever since then. So I think he was ready. He was just waiting for someone to basically, like, give him that, like, this is what it is. He needed that structure. Yeah. And, like, for you to lay it down.

I didn't try to force him to go on the potty like I did with Isaac too soon in like the accidents and the pull-ups and the underwear and it was just too much with Isaac. So once I laid it down for Lincoln, he was good to go. Oh my gosh. Well, I would just advise any mothers of boys. I don't know about girls. I've heard that they potty train way faster than boys. But any mothers of boys that are listening try to introduce your child to the potty. And if they show no interest, they're not ready.

so don't frustrate yourself, allow them to just pee and poop on themselves until I guess they're ready. No, yeah, because you're going to end up being more frustrated than they are, and then you're just going to feed into each other's frustration, and it's not worth it. 100% it's not worth it. And I'm just like, I'm so frustrated, and I know that you know, and they just sit there and look at you, and it's like, really? I mean, really, like, are we really going to continue doing this? because I have bought stock in diapers at this point.

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Okay. So I read this thing from Huffington Post and it was like a parenting thing about how much bacteria and toxins are on the bottom of shoes that come into your house. Apparently, there's like tons. and tons and tons of bacteria that have like nasty, like harmful strains of bacteria, like E. coli and like weird, like nasty stuff on the bottom of shoes that can cause like all kinds of infections, like diarrhea, urinary tract, like all kinds of like nasty, nasty stuff. Really? I mean, I guess that makes sense. Like when I'm thinking about it, as you're saying it, I guess that makes sense. But I mean, I haven't noticed anything in all the years I have allowed shoes. I haven't noticed anything. It was just more like, I don't want marks on my floors and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, I think I do it. I don't allow shoes in my house, but I do it

because of like the sanitary purposes. Because I mean, you can step on like bird poop or like dog poop and you might not necessarily think that you get it on the bottom of your shoe, but it could have been where you stepped and somebody had like removed it and then there's still like pieces. bacteria and stuff. Yeah, that's true. And it's like so nasty. And the flu virus, did you see where it had reached like a level of epidemic like over the weekend? No. And that 20 children have died from the flu virus this season.

I know a friend of mine, her one year old just had the flu. And it was pretty bad. Yeah, it just felt so bad. He was, you know, sick and then and then was tested and tested positive for the flu. and poor thing just wanted to sleep and was miserable. I mean, he's fine now. He's good now. But it's just scary and just like overwhelming.

You have to keep them separated from the other kids. And, you know, as a mom already, your life is crazy. So then you add a sick kid and then not only sick, but now it's the flu. So I've never had the flu knock on wood. I don't know. My kids have never had it knock on wood. So I don't know what that's like, but I can imagine based on what I've heard. It's pretty bad.

Are you serious? Do you get a flu shot? Yeah, so do you remember it? Like, I think it was like 2008 or 2009. I can't remember what year it was. It might have been 2010 that like there was that swine flu epidemic or whatever. Yeah. Okay.

So I got the flu shot and then 48 hours later I like came down with something terrible and I didn't know what it was and I was just like in the bed and could not move, sweating, horrible. Finally I went to the ER after like 72 hours and tested positive. for swine flu. Oh my God. Then the following year, I got a flu shot and it was like less than a week after I got the flu shot. I came down with the flu again. And I watched something on Good Morning America this week about proper precautions to take like during the flu season and basically like you can't have enough lysol and enough, you know, disinfecting wipes and to basically if somebody in family has the flu to quarantine them into one room and just don't like have them cross-contaminate

anything so like don't be in the kitchen like make sure you take them food to them and don't let them touch your surfaces because the flu virus can live on a surface for like 24 hours. Oh wow. So it's like highly, highly contagious. I just have never had a flu shot and I've also never have the flu. Well, let's hope that you don't get it. But I mean, it's just, it's just, just so scary because, I mean, you hear all of this stuff about these little kids and it's like terrible, like just terrible, like 20 deaths from just the flu. I mean, that's horrible. Oh, I agree. Poor kids. Oh, and then while I was thinking of that, I was thinking of why I'm going to convince you not to wear shoes in the house because, okay, you have Lux. So if he had like

a bunch of toys laying on the floor and then he starts crawling. and he's playing on the floor. And you have a bunch of people coming in and out of your house with shoes on. And they have like E. coli or like poop on the bottom of their shoes or whatever. And they've tracked it in and you might not necessarily see it. It doesn't look like dirt. It's just, you know, normal wear and tear track marks, whatever. And Lux has a toy that's laying on the floor.

He goes and grabs it and it's been like all on top of that stuff. And then he puts his hands in his mouth. Yeah, that's disgusting. Yeah. So is it disgusting or not? It's so disgusting. I mean, and I have dogs too. So it's like I haven't even thought about the whole crawling thing enough because I'm like, okay, I definitely don't want him crawling on my floors because I have my dogs.

But my house is so open concept that I can't put a gate up to get to keep my dogs out of where. You have gates everywhere. There would be no way. Right. So I just don't really know what I'm going to do because. obviously I didn't have Lincoln crawling around in this house. I had him at my old house, which hobby's in now. So I got to figure that out because I really just don't want shoes in the area that I'm going to allow him to crawl in. Yeah. I mean, that's just so,

so gross. Like, it's just so gross. Another thing that I saw on the news, I don't know you might have seen this too, but did you see where that six-year-old little boy died from rabies? No? Where do you read this shit? I read it like on the news. You know, like there's a news app on your phone and you can like scroll through and it'll tell you like the news in the world and it'll tell you like. I'm going to come back the next podcast episode and I'm going to, I'm going to just shoot you some of the news articles that I've read because you're just blowing my mind right now and I haven't read any of them. Well, yeah, and I was going to tell you about them. But then I was like, no, I'm not going to tell her about it. I'll just wait until I. talk to her whenever we do podcast and tell her about this stuff because I feel like other people might not know about it but might no what happened that poor thing what happened so apparently it was

a the little boy was from Florida and apparently um he his dad found a bat that was like injured and so he put the bat into a um into a bucket and he told his little boy who was six years old. So just think like in the age range of like Lincoln and Jackson told him to put don't touch the bat and the little boy of course, you know, being a little boy goes and touches it and the bat scratches him. So the bat was sick and had rabies and of course, you know, this man's not going to know it, which I would think to myself, I wouldn't have, I know that sounds terrible, but I probably wouldn't of help the bat because it's like a non-domestic animal and I don't know what kind of diseases it carries. So like I wouldn't want to be inviting. Was the bat inside or outside? I'm not.

I think it was outside. Okay. So yeah. I'm sorry. That's just the circle of life and I'm not going to help a bat outside. I might call someone to have them come help the bat. But me personally, I'm not picking the bat up and putting it in a bucket. I would rather call. There's like numbers, special numbers for bats. Well, there's a special number. Well, can you please give me that special number because now I am so paranoid. No, I'm serious. Like, you have to handle bats like really carefully and you're not supposed to really do them.

You're supposed to hire professionals to do it for you because they do it in a non-harmful way. So that's really sad though because it scratched him and then what, I mean, what are. So he found it. Put it in the bucket, put it on his porch, told the little boy not to touch it. The little boy, of course, being a little boy, goes over, touches it. The bat scratches him. So, like, frantically, the dad goes and starts, like, Googling really quick. What do you do if the bat scratches you?

So apparently he finds on Google to wash your hands with soap and hot water for five minutes. First off, why are you Googling this? Like, why are you not calling 911? So Googles this. And he says after the fact that, you know, after his son has been in the hospital and been put into a medically induced a coma, he says that his wife knew, yes. Like he said that his wife knew that they should have taken their son to seek like immediate attention. But when the son started crying and realized that he was going to have to get shots, then the dad like didn't make him go to the hospital. So then, like, the little boy began, like, he started to complain that his fingers, like, had gone numb, like, he didn't have any feeling in his fingers, and that he was having bad headaches.

So then the mom started worrying, oh, like, maybe he could have hurt his head or something like playing. So they rushed him to the hospital. And not until they got to the hospital did they mention that he had been scratched by bat to the doctors. How bad was this scratch? Like, I don't even know. So they didn't show a picture of like how bad the scratch was, but they did show a picture of him like all on tubes and like all this kind of stuff. So immediately, I guess they test him to see like if, you know, he has rabies. And I guess he, I don't know how the test is for it, but I guess he tested positive for rabies.

And so the doctors told the dad that at this point it was like lethal. And it's only preventable if, like, the person who comes in contact with the virus, if they're vaccinated before they develop symptoms. So, like, had he gone to the ER maybe, like, immediately afterwards and then got a vaccine and he wouldn't have had any of, like, the numbness or the headaches or whatever, then it could have been preventable. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

So. But I just feel like. There's so many things wrong with the first of all, obviously, I feel so bad for the family and the little boy, but I just feel like there was so many, as a parent, like, could you imagine the guilt that the dad feels for trying to help the bat? Like, the whole thing, the whole situation is like, I don't even know, mind blowing, I guess. I didn't know that you could get, I guess, I thought it was rare for bats to have rabies. I thought that was like a whole myth that like most bats have rabies or whatever. I said that last night. That's what I said when I saw this story.

I was like, is this like a myth? Like is this like for real? Because I thought it was just like something that your parents told you like, oh, bats have rabies or like squirrels have rabies so that you didn't touch them for whatever reason. But evidently like they really do. Because the dad could have gotten it. The dad could have gotten it just by picking up the bat then and putting it in the bucket. And like it's weird that he didn't get scrobes. scratched and didn't get the rabies, but the child did.

But the thing is, is the child might not have been scratched. He could have been bit because apparently the doctor told the dad that it can be difficult to tell if you've been, like, bitten or scratched because the small size of a bat's tooth, it could look like a scratch, but it could have been a bite. Got it. So it's not necessarily like they don't know, but they knew that by the time he started getting like the symptoms of the headaches and stuff that it had reached his brain at that point. at that point it was like impossible to stop.

So you said that you can only, we're obviously not doctors, but you said you can prevent it. So basically if you get, if you come in contact with rabies, you have to get the shots immediately. So once you start showing signs, there's no saving you. No, because I guess there's not like anything to fight it off. Like it's like a quick like thing. And I don't know how animals live with it either. Like if it kills a human like that fast, how do animals? Is it just like a thing that animals have that they are not affected from it like humans are?

I think they are affected but maybe just not in the same way. Right. Because like if you ever see like a rabid fox or like a rabid animal, sometimes they act crazy, they're like foaming at the mouth. But maybe like that, maybe that bat like was going to die because it had rabies then that could have been why I was like injured or something. Like who knows. Right.

I just know that I would never put a bat in a bucket. If your child ever gets bit by anything, the proper thing to do would be to call 911 or to take your child to the nearest emergency room immediately and not wait until, you know, just because a child's cries because they're going to get a shot doesn't mean that you don't take them to the E-R. Right. I agree. You know, but I do feel terrible for these parents. And it was a story that was so sad.

Like I look at the little boy and he's like the size of Jackson, you know, on the... Oh, poor thing. And it's so, so, so sad. But, yeah, that was my news of the week. And I'm so sad that it was like so morbid. Yeah, it's all like depressing news, but maybe... Well, whatever. Poor thing.

Whatever. I have so much to talk to you guys about in the next episode of CoffeeCom. because I've been watching the three episode long show about Jody Areas. So I definitely want to bring that up next podcast. Oh, and I have two other crime stories that you maybe have not seen since I'm like obviously breaking news. Yeah, clearly. I have other crime stories that I want to tell you about.

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