Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 110: New Nurseries, Missing Cats, and Internet Drama

Episode Date: June 25, 2020

This week Kail and Lindsie are back with more info on what they have been doing during quarantine, specifically about a show they have both been watching. Kail finally answers all your questions about the new nursery in her house, and you won't want to miss the adorable story about what Lindsie's son did when he found out there was a missing cat in their neighborhood. All this and some good old fashioned internet drama in this weeks episode of Coffee Convos!  Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combo's, Lindsay we're on week two, but I know, well week like 97, no week like maybe like 397 but like really week two. Week two since we've been back and ready to catch up all of our listeners on our nonsense. Educational. Can I tell you something? Somebody messaged me. This was like right before I started recording and I don't know like what made me go and look at my messages, but they were like, so how have you killed not killed your kids since quarantine? And I'm like, I ask myself the same thing every day. Every day. I don't know. Jackson's been like more behaved in quarantine. I feel like it's weird. Well, yeah, before we started recording, Lincoln was standing. I have French

doors on my office so you can see through them. And Lincoln is just standing there making faces and like doing like the Spider-Man's like people will shoot me with his web. And I can hear everything that you're saying. Get out. Get out. Yeah. No, Kale was like so stern and I was like, Oh, I am scared. I did my best. That's the strict, the strictness up in me. I'm dead. That that was strict, Kale. It was like, I can hear you. Therefore, you need to leave. And then they went downstairs. I actually told them they had to take the dogs and stuff out because I don't know. It's really hard to make time to podcast when I have the kids and the dogs in the house because I don't necessarily trust the kids to take

the dogs out by themselves, but like also don't want the dogs to bark, but like also we're in quarantine. Well, don't wear open to phase one yesterday. Oh, God. So what was phase one phase one is hair salons opened but not spas. So like you cannot get your eyebrows, your eyelashes, your nails, you can't get any of that stuff, but you can wear a mask to get your hair done. Okay, well, you guys are on the move. Gyms are open to 30% capacity. So I think that hobby was able to open his gym yesterday. I'm not gonna lie. I just don't trust the gym. I'm still paying for it because I still want to say, you know, I don't want to be like that jerk to like cancel my membership or whatever because they're obviously probably

hurting too. So I've left it open, but I'm just not comfortable to go back. So maybe someday in the future, I've been I've been being trained by by Will and his CrossFit style workouts and like I hate it. I hate it. I don't know how y'all get into CrossFit like style workout. It's too fast for me. I like to go to the gym and I like to work on like glory muscles, like abs and squats and that kind of stuff. And I don't like to do it fast. And I like to just do everything at my own pace. And I just get very annoyed. We can do CrossFit movements and not do the timing of it. Will tries to make me do it so fast and I literally feel like I'm going to the ER as soon as I finish. I won't lie

to you when I was with Chris. I would he did not do CrossFit and I would bet him. I bet you can't do this workout and we would go to the gym and we would I would make him do CrossFit workouts and would you lose the bet? Yeah, I lost every time he's athletic. So yeah, I figured. Um, can I tell you about the office situation because I'm again working from Will's office? It's just so quiet down here. Does he have a different quote up today? No, it's still do your best until you know better than do better. And you know what? It's very relevant quote actually. So so I'm here for it. But the office situation still looks the same as the last time that we recorded. I do want to notate that there is a different

candle in here because that candle y'all was stinking and I was like, Oh my gosh, I can't I can't do it anymore. And so even every time I came down to the basement, it smelled like ax like cologne or like something like super cheap just smelled so bad. And so he has now since changed it to a more women's fragrance like amber or something. And so it's very light but it's still dollar store. So you guys can imagine the situation that I live in. So yeah, yeah, I just you know what? It was a nice touch, I think because I feel like most men their offices probably smell like a gym locker room type situation. So I definitely gave him props for adding that personal touch of the of the dollar store

candle. Totally. And I'm just wondering why there's like baseballs down here and tape on his desk and a deck of cards. Like, I wonder if he's like actually down here with his co workers like playing cards like over zoom or something. But I beat him in Rummy. Maybe you guys should play and talk shit about me. That would be awesome. I would not talk shit about you but I would listen to him if he talks shit about you see that's where that's the problem. You should definitely shut him down if he talks shit. Oh, I would listen and I would be like, I don't think this is going to work. I'll just move in. You can go to the boys house with my kids. Yes, you all move into a compound like we don't give

a fuck at this point at this point. Speaking of compounds, though, I know that I talked about Waco in the last episode. Were you able to watch it? I was I was able to watch it and I am actually embarrassed to say that I watched the entire thing in one sitting. So what it took me days. Kale. Well, there was a rainy day and my house literally has fallen apart over the last two weeks. Like my AC wasn't working. My car AC wasn't working. The heater outside for the hot tub wasn't working. Isaac showers been leaking. Throw it away. Honestly, it was just so much that was like, let me just try to schedule all these appointments at one time so that like, I can have these contractors and like, I guess

vendors, right? Are they vendors? Yeah, just like contract workers or whatever. Just get it all done. Yeah. So I am embarrassed to say that I sat and I watched it. So anyways, for those of you who don't know what Waco is, it's a Netflix documentary. The documentary was about the 1993 showdown between the FBI and the branch Davidians in Waco. And it's actually ended up in 70 people dying. So it was very sad. Like I was sad through the whole thing, but also like mind blown and I don't know if you felt that way too. So Waco Texas, my sister and my dad both live there. Are they part of the branch Davidians? I can definitely say that my sister is not, but I cannot speak for my sperm shooter. I do not

know. We don't know. I watched it and at first the first episode was kind of hard for me to get into because I was like, what the fuck is a branch Davidian? I don't know what the fuck I'm watching. Like, what is this? So I texted Lindsay and I'm like, what is this? And why are you making me watch this? Yeah, I was like, is this some old school? Like, I don't know. But I quickly realized when Lindsay texted me back, it is a cult led by David. And he named it the branch Davidians and takes place in Waco, Texas. And it's based on a true story. Like this is the events that unfolded. And like naturally, we think when we think of the word cult, we think of I'm going to go ahead and say like weird. Yes,

that's exactly what we think of that we don't understand, right? Like we I mean, and they have like all these inside jokes and like, you know, like the way they talk, it's like they have like code words, I feel like that they use. I mean, I could just be completely making this up because I'm not part of a cult. But I feel like when I think of them, they have like all this code language and like, they know what's going on, but nobody else on the outside really knows what's going on. It's weird to me because so David is the leader of this cult. And he tells anyone who enters their group that they're not allowed to have sex, they have to, you know, that's just not something that they do. Even when they get

married, they're still not allowed to do it. But David is allowed to have sex with all the female members if he chooses to what man signs up for that. That's what I want to know. So from what I understood, the government decides to basically like ambush them and for no real reason, like there was no real, I mean, they don't just attack any other cult. They claim that there was child abuse allegations against this cult. Because I missed that part. Yeah. So did I. I don't think that anybody knows. I think it was just a reason to open up an investigation and kind of like ambush them. I think it's okay. But even still, if you open up an investigation, because you want to make sure that, you know, this group

of people, whatever they're choosing to do is not abusing their children. I just feel like do that, but then leave because at the end of the day, if there's no child abuse, there's no neglect, there's no, and I'm not saying there was or wasn't, I'm just saying in general, there's no reason for the US government and FBI to involve themselves to the point where and then in one of the episodes, they talked about how every single time the US government has used tear gas to do this type of thing, it has always turned into a fire fire. Yeah. And they never prevent the fire part. So you know the fire is coming and you're not prepared to put the fire out. That was okay. Well, I had a lot of big problems, but

I want to start with the fact of I don't agree with the way that these people were living. I don't agree with, you know, a man having sex with like all of these women, but you know, like, I don't like he's like a God, you know, because I think he viewed himself as something like that. And so I just, I didn't agree with that. But at the same time, I don't agree with the government, you know, kind of imposing themselves on this cult when they weren't bothering anybody, if they were okay with it, and they, you know, were staying on their own, you know, like they had free will to basically do what they wanted. I feel like that's a decision, a life decision that they're making, we all make decisions that,

you know, other people might not necessarily agree with, but I don't think that the government should have done what they did. And it was so sad to see how many lives were lost because of the type of intervention. Did you see on that, though, that the government was saying that the dividends had started firing first? Because based off of what I saw, they didn't. Yeah. And they said that or there was a plant, they were planning to attack was another excuse that I heard in there, which also I didn't see. I guess they were prepared for one, but I didn't see good for them. I mean, at that, look what happened to them. Of course they're going to fire, you know what I mean? I just, I'm with you on the not agreeing with their

lifestyle, but I mean, how many people do we come in contact with daily that we don't agree with their right? That doesn't mean that we have the right to interfere with what they're doing or how they're doing it. And like I said, if there was no child abuse or neglect or anything of that matter going on, then it's none of our fucking business. So I'm just, I was blown away by the whole thing. And just to think that like Lindsay said in the beginning, when we started talking about this, 70 people died and most of them were women and children because they could not get out of the vault where they're hiding from the tear gas.

That's what scared me so bad. And I couldn't quite wrap my head around the fact I was, I was really disappointed in David as a leader to not send them out, you know, was, was his decision based on the fact that he thought that immediately if they went out that they were going to shoot at them. And so them staying inside the compound or whatever you want to call it was, was the safety net, was that the decision making process or was it just selfish God complex mentality of I'm going to, to beat the government. I mean, I don't know. I think it was a little bit of both. It was a twofold, right? Like he want, he maybe he was afraid that by letting them go, they would immediately no longer be a part of the branch

divisions. Or, or it was a control thing, you know, you're part of the branch divisions and you're going to die for the branch divisions. But in another aspect, maybe he didn't think that anything would happen. The only thing left standing after the fire was the vault. So maybe he thought they would have actually lived in there. I don't know, like it survived. I mean, not like, not lived, but yeah, but like made it through the fire or any type of like tragedy or whatever. Yeah. So if, if you guys haven't watched Waco, like Kale said, the first episode, I agree was pretty slow, but I think it was just background information that was probably necessary for the rest of the documentary to make sense. But I didn't

watch it. And one sitting, I watched it over like a couple of days, like probably like a week's time. Every night I went to bed, you know, like I watched an episode. So I don't have a TV in my room. I'm so proud of you, Kale, for sitting and watching TV all the time. Fuckin' gay. Let me just also add that I did not have my kids last week. So I had more flexibility. Well, that, that's a better excuse. I'm okay. That makes sense because it's not like you were doing jack shit elves, you know, right? No, I didn't have my kids. My house wasn't working. My whole house was broken. We have had a lot of questions about your nursery and about the baby and all things related. So really?

Yeah. So even on my Instagram, like, what's Kale's nursery? Like, where did she get her crib? All of this stuff. So answer, tell us the information. So, okay, I posted, I posted a picture of the nursery on my Instagram so I can actually have Lindsay post it on the coffee combos one. I'm not logged into coffee combos anymore because my kids have Instagrams and I post on theirs. So like, that's like too many accounts. Yeah, I can't and like I made my dogs an Instagram so I'm dead. I'm not on coffee combos anymore. Lindsay has full control of that. I'm not really good at creatives anyway. We do have conversations about what's being posted. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll send a picture of the nursery to Lindsay with

the links. So that'll be easier for you guys to like, whatever, but I will tell you where stuff is from. Yeah. So the pictures above the crib, they're like animals, safari theme. They're from Wayfair. The crib is also from Wayfair. I found like the little night table from TJ Maxx, which actually I've had for years and I was like, where the hell should I put this? So when I got pregnant, I was like, amazing. I'll use it in there. I got with a glider, like the swivel chair thing came from maybe Wayfair. I have it written down somewhere. So again, we'll tag it on the Instagram. And it was already painted that color. So I just left it. I'm trying to think what else. What made you pick the theme? Like,

oh, I went on Pinterest and I was at first I was looking at like unisex themes. And I was like, okay, well, I'll probably get my girl this time. So I'll definitely just do something that's like, yeah, right. Um, semi girly, but like could be used in either way. We can just add some like pink accents or something. And then I got a call that it was a boy. So not the way not really the way that I wanted to find out that it was a boy. But yeah, just completely changed. But then the theme still worked. So I was like, okay, this is perfect. So Pinterest has like the most amazing ideas and set up and they actually link everything for you. So it was really easy to find certain things. But yeah, I just

I thought it was a cute like, and like some of the stuff in there can be reused beyond a nursery. So the stuff I already have the swivel glider, like the swivel chair, that's all stuff that you can use that are not for a nursery. And I got shit a while back for not doing Lux's room. When Lux was an infant, um, I got shit from not making it child friendly enough. And I was like, the baby stuff and like the little kids stuff is cute. I agree. It is. But at the same time, if I'm going to spend $100 on something, I want to be able to repurpose it for something else. Does that make sense? Yes. Instead of just dedicating it to something that they're going to use for a very brief period of time. Right. Like

I personally don't need a changing table that is specific to being a changing table. I think a dresser or like, um, like a credenza of some sort would work with a changing pad on top. That way when it doesn't work in the nursery anymore, you can move it somewhere else in the house and still, um, find purpose in it and not, you know, waste the money. And I learned that the hard way because I had a changing table for Isaac. And then afterwards I was like, well, what the fuck do I do with it now? Well, to that point, Kailin, um, in my guest bedroom now as the little nightstand, cause everything's kind of smaller in my guest room. Um, the little, not nightstand, but like the, the dresser of drawers or whatever,

it is a dresser, but it had like a top piece on top that was removable. So once I removed the changing part, it's just a dresser. And so I use it in there now. So yes, I'm all for repurposing stuff. Like my chair that I used in Jackson's nursery is actually in my room now. Um, I agree that if you're buying solid pieces of furniture to be able to repurpose them somewhere else so that they're not going to waste. Right. I mean, otherwise you just give it away or I mean, some people are like sell it, but for that, I might as well just make use of it in my own house. And I'm not going through all of that. I mean, Will's like the ultimate Craig's Lister

and I'm just like, sometimes it works. I've heard actually that Facebook marketplace actually, first of all, TikTok is amazing. I've bought so many things because I've seen it on TikTok, but I saw one girl furnished her entire apartment in $500 because of Facebook marketplace and it looked so freaking cute. I was really impressed because it's all gently used things. Um, but she put it together so cute and I was like, wow, that's amazing. But I also, I'm not a show like that. I can't. Yeah. I don't have the patience to like, what if I don't find something that would look cute or what if I get it and like, I just don't have the patience, but I love the people that can. So remember that episode that you did with Kristen and

you guys were talking about like matching your inside of your house to like the outside of your house. Yeah. Okay. So you know how you said that Pinterest was like a really great resource. I always feel so victimized by Pinterest because they have such good ideas, but I feel like I can never execute them properly. So I just don't do it anymore. Oh, same. I still go on it for the idea, but I'm never going to do the DIY projects because I've realized looking back. Like I watched, um, an old episode of team mom and some of this stuff that was DIY in that house that I lived in with hobby, like our first house in Delaware. I was like, Oh my God, that's not okay. First of all, who DIYed it? Was it you? Me. Yeah. And what

did you DIY? Tell me right now. Just different things. And like, I just thought that anything that could go on the wall should be on the wall. And so like I overfilled my walls. It looked cheap. It looked tacky. It looked, I don't know. Like it just like, that's so funny that you're like that because I don't feel like you're like that now at all. I am completely the opposite. Like I almost feel like I'm so hesitant to hang something on my wall because I'm afraid it's going to mess something up and it's going to look tacky. So then I just don't hang anything at all. So it's just like a fucking bare wall. Yeah, I would rather almost have bare walls than to, because my house, it just was, I couldn't

believe that I did that. And I thought like, I was so cool by like painting stuff and like refurnishing, like, or refurnishing, refinishing stuff. Like I thought it was so cute. It wasn't cute at all. I'm so glad that you're out of that phase, Kale. Me too. Yeah. Does it feel good to like be reformed? Yeah, it feels real good. Good. Oh my gosh, I'm so dead. Well, I have something else that I want to talk about because my DMs have been blowing up. And I just finally just stopped looking because I'm just like, you know what, like, whatever, because sometimes you just get in those moods where you're like, okay, I've seen enough. I'm going to remove myself from the situation. Do you ever get in those types of moods on

Instagram? Oh, 100%. Okay, so I apparently was a topic of conversation on my dad's podcast. Again, when this airs, this will be like three weeks later. But evidently, I was a topic of conversation and people started blowing me up because anytime that I'm ever mentioned, you know, I have people that like to support me and yeah. And so I received one message that just said sending you positivity and support. I have been admiring your strength and class for months now. Stay real and true to yourself because that's what will always matter most. So at first I was kind of like, what the hell, like, why does this happen? Like why, why are we still, you know, talking about this? So I just comprised all of my

thoughts into like a little note and I'm just going to read it because that way I don't get like, off task. Yeah, so here, here goes. In regards to all the messages that I received about my dad's podcast and the incessant need to defame me, I've gone through many emotions since I heard it. I appreciate the support each of you give me and I refuse to allow their noise to call me out of character. My question always remains the same. Why is there a need to continue to speak about me? I've moved on and I only ever comment when I have been spoken about stop lying. You're benefiting no one, not even yourself. On October 23rd, you released a podcast stating that you would like nothing more than a reunification.

My response also on October 23rd was as follows. If you would truly like a reunification, please have your attorney reach out to mine and we can hash it out at a table in neutral territory follows in your court, make a believer out of me, please do not respond to me respond through your attorney. I don't want to have communications otherwise. My attorney's office was never contacted. I'm willing to meet face to face with legal teams present because I don't feel comfortable otherwise and I want you to be a record of any and all communications with you. Stop the victim tour. My offer remains open. Eight months later, it remains open. But I'm asking you kindly if you cannot confront something head on when someone's giving you

the opportunity to do so, don't be a coward and hide behind a mic. I have the chills because it is absolutely insane to me that you even have to have that you even have to feel the need to have attorneys present to speak to your own family. Like there's obviously issues bigger than most people think if that's where your head is at, you know what I mean? And you shouldn't have to not feel safe with your family. Well based off of and I don't want to bash anybody or talk negatively about anybody, I only want to ever state the facts. But based off of what I went through this past August, I would never feel comfortable without having a third party present that was neutral. That

is recording fact. I don't blame you. And I think that that's smart just to protect your own sanity and peace of mind. You know, I don't have relations with my parents because of the exact same things. But there just comes a point where you have to protect your peace and your own, you know, yourself and your family, and you're not going to put that in jeopardy at the cost at the, you know, at the, I guess, the, what's the word I'm looking for? I know what you're saying, but like at the expense, maybe, you're not going to put your family in jeopardy to talk to them and try to know because you don't need to be brought

out of character. You don't need to go home and have to, you know, dwell on certain things that were said or done or, you know, make them feel like you, no, they're not the victims here. Right. Like, no, I agree with you. And I think that what you said was very well put together. I think it was very well spoken. And I, I know you on a personal level, on a business level, and I know that you would never not say anything out of fact. So it's, it's really heartbreaking that they are out here to say face, basically saying that they would have

a unification reunification and then nobody's ever contacted. And it does say and say what you mean. And it's not simple. And if that's truly what you want, don't use it as a sympathy tour or as a victim tour to try to make a statement, but not follow through with what you said. I don't have any desire to have a reunification and I've never stated so. But if that's what you want and you need some type of closure or you feel that there is something that needs to be said, don't hide behind a mic to do it. I've given you the opportunity to meet me face to face with our legal teams and you can say whatever the hell you want to say to my face. Period.

End of discussion. I'm done talking about it. The offer remains open. That's all that needs to be said. And completely other news though, can I tell you how invested that I am in this YouTuber with this adopted son? Yes. Okay. So you told me about this and I then went down a rabbit hole and was looking into it and then I talked to my friends in the group chat about it and I was like, what the fuck is this? He's like my friend bone. I've talked about it before. We had a falling out or back to being friends, whatever, whatever. So we have this group chat and she's like, she loves YouTube. So like anything that's on YouTube or that's

important news from YouTube, she knows about it. So I brought it up in the group chat. She knew exactly what I was talking about and she kind of like gave me more backstory while I went down this rabbit hole. So tell me what you know and then I'll tell you what I know. Okay. Basically what I got from it all was that this couple is on YouTube and they have, I want to say four kids of their own. Is that right? They documented the entire process of adopting this little boy from China. I, they went through about a year of medical diagnosis diagnosis and all different types of treatment and things of that nature to basically get their adopted child. His name is Huxley. I think Huxley. Okay. So Huxley

was diagnosed with autism. He's on the spectrum, which I guess after him turning three or was it after three years? I think, I think he's three. Okay. So they adopted him at birth then or shortly thereafter. And between that time and the time that they decided that they could no longer raise a child that had autism and placed this child with a new home because the stresses of having a child with autism was too hard for them is what I got from it. They started to not film the YouTube videos with Huxley in them anymore and people were asking and then they finally made the statement. Is that right? Yes. What the fuck? So Kail and I have gone back and forth on this over text and how we feel about it. But after doing

deeper research into the last time that we talked about it, I was kind of on the fence like, okay, you know, maybe, maybe this child was doing something to their other children because I did, did read that they were concerned, you know, for their other children and that it had just become, you know, too much. But I think bottom line is, is if the information of what I've gathered is true that they did know about him having autism or being a spectrum. I believe what I read was that they, they had knowledge of his medical history. I don't know if it's diagnosable earlier than three. I don't know. And, and maybe I should, should look into that because I just, I don't know enough about it. I do know that it was said

that she was having conversation with friends about the adoption process and how that it was all going to be documented. And so I just, I don't want to say that because they documented it, that it was insincere because I do feel as, you know, if you want to call it an influencer or whatever, that if people are a part of your life that, that you want to show them, you know, the acts aspects of your life that you, you can involve them in. So I think, you know, I mean, just by documenting it, I mean, if I was wanting to adopt a child, I would want to be able to watch the journey of somebody else's first in case they give any, you know, tips or setbacks or anything like that. And I feel like specifically for

you on the type of show that you're on, that it would be documented for the purposes of, you know, it's going to reach a broad audience. So I don't want to say that with their following on YouTube that it was insincere because I don't, you know, know that. But what I do know from, from what I was reading is that supposedly an old neighbor had come forward from where they used to live in like a home that was like 200 and something thousand or whatever with, with their children. And then once they kind of became super YouTube famous from documenting this adoption journey, they have now moved in to like, they call it like a mega mansion or something. I need to look this up right now. And I think the lifestyle

completely changed and people are skeptical because they're following grew so much due to the adoption and that whole story. And then instead of addressing it head on and him just disappearing from videos, I feel that that is insincere because if, if you were having problems with the child that you adopted, I feel like if you're going to, to document the happy, you have to be willing to document the sad. It's just one of those things where I just feel like when you are going and maybe this is ignorant, I don't know, this is me just speaking on this situation alone. When you go into an adoption, I feel like you have to be aware to some level, okay, so you, you

know, Yeah, I know where you're going with this that I think in any adoption situation that your heart has to be open to be accepting of whatever the circumstance is when you Unconditionally, Unconditionally, 100%, 100%. And if you can't be there and you can't meet the child there, then you have no business being in that situation in the first place because you don't know what that child's medical history could be based off of just alone genetics.

You don't know really, really anything, especially when you're adopting from China is where I believe that you, you know, was adopted from. So it wasn't, you know, like a US adoption where the parents would probably have an extensive, you know, medical history or, you know, anything like that. It wasn't that type of situation to my knowledge. So I just truly feel like if, if your heart is in the right place and you're choosing to adopt, you're choosing to take on the unknown. Right, exact. That's exactly where I was going with, with what I was about to say 100%. I just, I mean, I looked up the situation again, just to have clear understanding. Based on

today's news, there's an investigation that has been launched into this whole situation. She lost brand sponsors over the adoption controversy. And I will note that I do not like the fact that she quote unquote, re-homed. This is not a dog. This is not a dog that bit somebody. This is a child. You adopted him, brought him here from another country. And then he became your son. And then you then turned around and gave him, placed him up for adoption again. So I mean, I just don't know. And think about the issues associated with that, that he is going to face later down the road, because he already is going to have questions of why he was adopted living with

an American family from China and why he was given up. And then to know that if he has autism, that it wasn't something that his adoptive family could quote unquote handle. So now he has been quote unquote, re-homed to a family that is equipped to be able to handle him. I truly feel that if you are going to adopt, that you need to be equipped for whatever that situation brings you. Right. Like you love them as if they are your own. Correct. Oh, go ahead. It makes me wonder if she wasn't able to love him as her own because she already had the other children. It's caused me to question a lot of things, you know, like was, was her

love for him not, not unconditional? It couldn't have been because if it was, she wouldn't have given him up. So well, 100%. 100%. And it also says on, so I'm on today.com. And it says, quote, as an adoptee, the term re-homing is offensive because it's traditionally used with rescue and shelter animals if they weren't at the initial right fit. And like I said, you don't re-home a child. I mean, that's like, okay, I'm not even going to go there. I can't, I can't get behind this. I mean, I think, and you know what, by all of this, everything that they gained from having Huxley in their home is going to be stripped of them and then

some, because they basically built a lifestyle becoming popular on YouTube for adopting Huxley. I will say that there are, there are other opinions that say, you know, if she wasn't ready, if she couldn't love him that way, if he, you know, um, could thrive in the household. Right. Then, then maybe the alternative was maybe him being placed somewhere else was better for him. I just think that her doing it was first, it was for selfish reasons. I mean, she should have known going into an adoption that you don't know what the genetics are, what the, um, you know, maybe you do. I don't know. I'm just speaking on this situation

specifically. Um, I just hope for Huxley's sake that he was placed somewhere that could truly take him all, take all of his, um, anything that he's dealing with, they, they could take it on with a loving, unconditional heart and I, I just don't see where we're the part of the story that, that got me is if you're going to document all the happy stuff and you're gaining this huge following off of this adoption process about how you're going to be such these great people because you're adopting a child from China and you're going to give him this better life and so on and so forth. And he's going to be molded into your family. And then all of a sudden he stops showing up in videos. And then at that point when

people start questioning it is when you address it, I feel like that was the wrong way to handle it completely. If you're going to document the happy, make sure you document all of the problems and sadness that is associated with it because that makes you look like a flake. Agreed. But like I said, everything's going to be stripped of them and more. I don't think that they can recover from this socially at least from a YouTube perspective. For sure. And while we're on the topic of YouTube, I feel like that's a whole different world of people. Oh, right. 100%. And I've tried. Like I've tried to like do my YouTube breakthrough, but it's number one, it's hard. It's time consuming and it's an entire different

like we talk about like trolls and like the hate that we get on Instagram and Twitter. No, YouTube is like its own fucking and it is its own entity, but like it's its own world. Yeah. No, I feel like it's a whole different following of people. I feel like it's a whole some of the comments that I have seen on YouTube, I'm like, I don't know that I could handle being a YouTube on YouTube. Yeah. I mean, more power to them because that takes a lot of guts to be out there on YouTube and and some of the people for sure. I want to give you all an update on something Jackson related before we go. Wait, and we still have to talk about Kylie Jenner. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So let me give you this update and talk about that.

Okay. And then we'll just have to go over a little bit. So Jackson, we were on the way home and we were like on this back country road and he starts seeing these signs for like a missing cat and it's called Bengal. And so he's like, mom, we need to find Bengal and I'm like a Bengal cat. Well, I guess it's name of the cat. Like he read the sign like driving past and this because there's a Bengal and then there's like a Bengal cat. Right. But I think that this was the cat's name that he saw. Got it. Okay. Okay. So we're like passing these like this country store and then I see like this cat sign and I'm like, okay. So at first I was like, okay, maybe this is just like a joke because when I heard Bengal, I'm

like like a tiger, like what? So then we keep going down the road and he's like, you need to go slow, like really slow. And I'm like, why am I going to slow down like on these roads? Like I need to get home. So he's like, well, I'm looking for Bengal and I need to find him. And I'm like, Jackson, I'm allergic and he's like, I know, but okay, let's say if we find him and we put him in the car, then would you die? And I'm like, no, Jackson, I wouldn't die. But like it's just not an ideal scenario. So like we probably just don't need to be looking for Bengal. So then we come home and I'm like doing chores and I come downstairs and he has recreated this missing Bengal sign on his own. He has put his address

on there. The numbers are all like backwards. Please post it. Please post it. I have to. And it's like a picture of the cat, like the way that it looks like on the sign and how it's missing and how he's going to give people a $50 reward. So then he goes missing and I'm like, where, where is Jackson? So I go outside and he is near a utility box and he has tape and he's taping up this missing hand drawn sign of this cat named Bengal and he's spent all afternoon bless his heart, make in multiple signs. And he said that the next step that he's going to take to return this cat to its owner is he is going to tape one of these flyers to his scooter and he is going to ride through the neighborhood so people

can see it. He is so helpful and thoughtful and innovative. I know. I'm like, you know what, baby, you go for it. You ride that scooter, you go around and you try to find that cat. Oh, I wasn't like an actual Bengal because they're like super, they're very expensive. And I don't know if they can survive in the wild or not. I will say it was on an expensive part of town. So like maybe, maybe it was, I don't know. I they're considered like mini leopard hybrids. Wow, kill you know a lot about the feline, you know what I used to think I could talk to animals. So like I definitely would have been the jacks the Jackson of our time. We have for sure. We have to talk about that on the next episode. But can we briefly

know like totally help cover the Kylie dinner Forbes saga that has been going on this week. I yeah, no, we have to cover it because we don't have a choice. So if it's Kardashian related, we have to cover it. At first, I saw the news that Kylie Jenner allegedly and her team, maybe Kylie was unaware, we don't really know, allegedly forged and or what is the word altered altered tax forms, etc. to be considered one of the youngest billionaires. The original article that I saw was not an article on a website that I would typically read. It wasn't like Forbes or us or in touch or anything. It was some like off brand. I don't know. I don't know if it's an off brand. It's just not one that I would have went went

and read. But someone sent it to me. And I was like, there's no way this is true. Like I highly, highly doubt that Kylie's going to lie about how much money she's making Lottie Vega. So Forbes claims that's where I saw it. So that's where I was like, Oh, fuck, which means if that is the case, if that were true, they had to have lied about how much Kylie cosmetics actually makes and they would have illegally sold it for whatever they sold it for. Remember, she sold like 51% of the company, which means that was sold under false pretenses under false information. Right. Exactly. That's where I'm going with this. And I read legitimate sources. Like I feel like Forbes is legitimate elite source. Okay.

And so I read the article on Forbes and from my understanding, they weren't accusing Kylie of altering anything. They were basically stating that it was altered by her team because she wanted to be in Forbes and it was, you know, like something for PR and it was like a PR thing basically. And so I know that she had gone out on Twitter. Did you see that? And she responded to it and said basically that she couldn't believe what she was waking up to and why would she lie? She didn't lie, et cetera, et cetera. And I don't think that she lied, but it wouldn't be in my eyes beyond a PR team to maybe do something like that for you to get him to be on the cover of Forbes. I mean,

It says on Forbes, Kylie Jenner's Web of Lies and why she's no longer a billionaire. But then I just read an article today that says she's no longer a billionaire, but her net worth is 900 million. So it's like, okay, well, who fuck cares? I think, isn't the net worth like what you own? Is it? I don't know. I thought net worth was like what you own minus what you owe. Oh, well, good to know. I'm so glad that you're teaching me lessons, Kayle. I don't know if that's accurate. Our listeners will probably bash me for this later. Google has my net, Google has my net worth.

I want to Google my net worth. Hold on. Kayle Lowry net worth of we'll see. I want to laugh. Let's laugh. Google has mine wrong. All right, let's see. Watch, it's going to be like 20 grand. Like, oh, okay, that's fine. I don't really care. How do they, how do they know? Like, how do you know? So like, how would Forbes know she has to prove with documents or? You guys, I am so dead. I'm so dead. I just want to know why it says people also search for Janelle Evans net worth.

Do not associate me with Janelle Evans. Do not. Do not. Why is this working? I want to know what my net worth is, Kayle. Can you hear me typing? Yep, I can hear you. Let's see. 2020. Mine came up immediately. Like, well, I think my, my Wi-Fi might be down. I don't know. Jimmy to Google your net worth. It says Kayle Lowry net worth. Tell me now. Okay, it says for 2020, it's somewhere between 1 million and 5 million. In parentheses, it is, it says approximately.

So it says the year before this, my net worth was 100,000. So please tell me how I went from $100,000 net worth to approximately 1 to 5 million. I, I would have had to, had an only fans account to go that high in one year. I mean, that is, that is so extreme, Kaylin. It's so extreme. I literally can't, these things are so funny. Like, I don't even know what my net worth is. So I can't honestly comment on it. Let me Google what net worth even means. Net worth. Net worth is the value, the assets, a person or corporation minus the liabilities they owe. So basically it's like what you own.

Well, mine, mine is 1.5 million as of 2019. That's amazing. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of myself. Like, where did they get this information? Who told them this? That's what I'm saying. Like, you don't, that's what, I don't know. I need, I need info. Are they looking into my bank accounts? Because if so, I don't own $5 million worth of things. Like, I don't even think I own one million worth dollars worth of things. Like, I don't even own one dollar worth of things. Okay, that's a lie. That's extreme. But you know, like,

these people that are writing these things are basically scams. They have no facts. And so do we believe that Kylie Jenner was actually a billionaire? Yes or no? No, I believe that basically what Forbes is saying that somewhere along the line of PR representatives and team that it was probably a situation of how do we get on, how do we get Kylie on Forbes? And I think that her net worth is probably close to a billion dollars, but not a billion dollars. And I think either way, she has more money than me, so. Me too. I mean, I'm a broke bitch compared to her. I'm just saying.

I mean, you know, 100%, I agree with you. I think she definitely, definitely not billion, but definitely multi-million. And I don't hate on her. I don't really care. I think it's a little weird that you, like, if you want to be on Forbes, like, do it the right way because then it's something to be proud of. If you're in Forbes and you're not actually what you say you are, you're going to be embarrassed. So I just, I'm with you. And I'm not trying to be embarrassed anymore in my life. Same. Same. Me either. I'm out of that phase, okay? Facts. Well, Kill looks like we are over time because we were just jabbing and jabbing, jabbing.

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