Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 111: Pregnancy Updates and School Decisions

Episode Date: July 2, 2020

This week, Kail and Lindsie finally get the chance to talk about Kail's pregnancy. How is it going, and what exactly will her birthing experience be with quarantine still happening? There are also some big decisions to be made about what school will look like for their kids, and Kail and Lindsie talk about all the unknowns still to be determined. All this and more on this week's episode of Coffee Convos! Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Hey guys welcome to coffee combos we got another exciting hour to talk about all the things with you guys. Well how are you Kaylin? You know how many people call me Kaylin because my nickname is Kayle. Well what is it Kaylin? No my name is Kaylin. It's Kaylin. Kaylin. And people call you Kaylin? Yes and I'm like I know it doesn't make sense but like I didn't come up with my own nickname. Who came up with Kayle? I need answers. Her name was Ariel and we were best friends from like eighth grade until high school one year in high school and I moved away so we were like best friends and one day she just started calling me Kayle.

It was like okay and it just stuck and like now I get offended when people besides you like call me Kaylin because I'm like you don't have like Kaylin is such a personal name to me. It's your government. Right like it's like my my family my childhood friends and then like my super close friends can call that call me that but like otherwise it's Kayle. Yeah like I was so bothered when MTV put my lower third as Kaylin and like my name is Kaylin because like you guys don't have the right to call me that and they use Joe and Javi as that's not their real name so why did they do that to me? What is Joe's name?

Jonathan. Jonathan. Well that's like what one would think. What's Javi's? Jose. Oh that's right Jose but see you do call him by his government. Well because he he is Jose. He's both like it just depends on my mood that day. Yeah if we don't like him on that day he's Javi. Right so I don't know. Otherwise we'll call him Jose. So I just wanted to tell you guys that I both Lindsay and I are both getting your messages about my microphone either being too loud or too... Kayle I'll be honest. You sounded like you were in a mausoleum. Wait is dead people go? Yeah some people some people are buried in mausoleums like fancy people I feel

like. Oh well I definitely won't be buried in one of those. I am recording from my bed today because evidently my office is super echoey and I never had that problem before but I guess whatever it's a new problem and I was recording for my voiceovers for MTV and they also said it was echoey so I'm trying a new room and I'm hoping that this works way better. Wait I need answers did MTV make you redo your voiceovers? Yes I have to redo them. And did you get very upset when they told you that you were redoing them? You know what I normally I would have but because the listeners of our podcast also said that it sounded that way I

was like okay fine it's not just MTV being picky like it's really my house. Yeah it really is your house. So I apologize. Well I'm glad that we have probably figured it out we'll know once this episode releases but like what are you doing in your room? Well I'm laying on a pregnancy pillow and I have my laptop set up and I'm holding this task cam mic thing because I don't know if this is the microphone or not so just in the event that it is I'm holding it to my face. Okay well I'm gonna confirm it's not. Do you have another microphone that you're speaking into? Yeah I have this other one but I don't know how to tell

if it's on. Oh it's on. It's definitely on but I really wish that you took a selfie right now like recording. I don't have enough hands because each hand has a microphone in it. I can't. Well I want to read this question that we got because I kind of have also wondered the same thing. A lot of people were a little upset that we haven't talked more about your pregnancy. I don't know what the peoples are wanting to know but one of the questions that came through was just about your body and how the exact question was how does your body feel during your fourth pregnancy? I've had two and it seems like my second was a

lot harder to carry than my first so. Wow yeah I definitely think that I know it 28 is not old. I don't feel like I'm old but I definitely feel differences in my body this pregnancy because I'm older than my other pregnancies. My like when I'm getting up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and stuff my sciatic nerve is literally like it I hate it it's insane. Like my sciatic nerve is bothering me. Other than that I just think like normal like as you get older your body just isn't the same anymore. I think like normal changes in that way. I still have heartburn which I've had with Lincoln and Luxe. You

didn't have it with Isaac? I did not have it with Isaac. Oh wow. Yeah the only real complaint with Isaac I want to say was like a little bit of morning sickness in the beginning like the first trimester and this one I had I had morning sickness up until around 22 weeks. Oh wow so you were sick that long? Yeah it's honestly this pregnancy has been harder probably because I'm older and just like the circumstances surrounding it were different but yeah other than that I yeah it's just like different because I feel like I'm older. Well you are older Kale you're not 17 now. I know but I just had a baby three years ago so it

feels like you wouldn't think that there are that many changes that would happen but I like my body feels older. Well I feel like I said on I don't know what episode it was but I literally feel so creaky. Does that make sense? Yes yes that's exactly it that's exactly how I feel creaky like I feel older. That's gonna be like our new saying like on a shirt I feel creaky. I feel not like creepy like creepy right creaky like like the floors are creaking. Yes that's how my body feels. Yeah well do you know that I'm looking at do you do your best until you know better and then do better and I'm gonna. Oh that's still up? I'm

gonna erase it today yeah. What are you gonna put in place of it? I'm probably gonna put something funny and see how long it takes him to notice that it's gone. Oh perfect okay I can't wait can you film his reaction though? No because he won't know you gotta just tell us about it. Yeah I'm not gonna film any reactions but I did want to let you know that I am again recording in Will's office. We did work out already today so I'm feeling like ahead of the game. It was CrossFit style workout and I wanted to vomit. Well at least you know you got a good workout in. Yeah but let me tell you what happened so over the weekend we

were well I say over the weekend we were at the lake for like a week but I went on an 8.2 mile walk. That's amazing. First of all who does that? I like to think I would do that and it sounds good. Yeah it also sounded good when I was doing it and I was like working up a good sweat because I haven't really I don't know about anybody else who is listening but if you do work out I feel like I have been so off my game that me walking eight miles felt like I was like really doing something and I was actually breaking a sweat because it was so hot and humid in Alabama that I was like damn like I'm really getting it in

and so I just like kept walking I got back let me tell you I had the worst blister on the back of my foot and I just like don't deal well with stuff like that with like skin hanging off and it feeling like it's gonna get an infection and it's basically hurt all week and I had to put some peroxide or whatever that stuff is it like bubbles on it yeah peroxide yeah and it still hurts and like it won't go away um yeah blisters are not fun because then you still have to wear shoes and I just put a band-aid on it I did and then it gets stuck to my band-aid so just tape some gauze to it like just put the gauze and

then tape around it off the scab every time I've tried no you have to make this have to make the gauze be bigger than the scab bye listen can you hear the birds outside my window listen no but if you guys start hearing a lawnmower I swear I'm gonna like shoot Will's lawnmower I hear the birds and if it's coming through I apologize you know what I read this I think I talked about it before a tweet that said it's so peaceful to wake up to the birds chirping and I literally wanted to throw my phone because that's not peaceful it's annoying so I get very annoyed if I hear the birds chirping I'm like can y'all go

back to sleep because I wasn't ready to wake up but there must be like a bird a bird's nest or something right outside my window because I don't have a tree and these are really loud I wish you guys could hear them it's definitely a bird's nest we should take care of them no if you don't have enough I was about to say I have enough shit in my lap definitely not doing that so let me tell you will told me that there was this email that was like circulating around for anybody who wanted to basically volunteer to go back to the office and I guess will was just attached but they knew that he wasn't

gonna be the person that was volunteering because I think he's made it like very clear but he supposedly had a conversation with some man that lives in Nashville like a work call and he's this man was saying that he didn't have any desire to go back like to the office that he's more productive being in his like home office and then he gets so much more done and whatever and I just want to know like who else feels like that or are you ready to like get away from your house I mean answers yeah that's definitely we talked a little bit about like how many people would work remotely after all of this was said and

done no but this is like a choice thing like right exactly yeah I'm curious to know like sometimes I mean I was just telling my friend Natalie I said you know I'm really thinking about after this baby is born like I know I say that I can't take on a whole lot right now because my plate is full but I wouldn't mind getting an actual part-time job just to get out of the house like to talk to other adults on a regular basis but at the same time then I would have to pay for childcare so I don't know and I just feel like you're not gonna do that I feel like you're saying that because it sounds like great and I've

also thought of that as well and now I hear your little birds it's deaf you hear them it's babies yeah oh my god you're right I hear them but back to what I was saying I feel like it's not really realistic because you have so many children to take care of that it's like by the time you pay the childcare it's like you're broke you said I have so many child children to take care you do I'm like does this in 2020 you know what it's so crazy because okay I thought about this yesterday or this morning I don't remember but like say you get now just follow the bouncing ball here because it's not gonna make sense at

first so say you get a new a new car and you get I don't know a Toyota Camry and you're like oh I love this car and you get it and then you literally see a toy like you see a Toyota Camry every other car because you just got one you're excited about it la di da I never really knew anyone that had four or five kids until I got pregnant with my fourth kid because oh I get it yeah does that make sense like it's easy to spot those things when that's what you're looking for or that's what you're going through and I'm like wow like I don't think that I would have ever pictured myself like 10 years ago when I had Isaac having four

kids but now you definitely seem like somebody who would have like six I six is my max like I wouldn't I don't think wait so I would have the ability you are confirming on coffee the possibility for two more children I'm I'm not confirming or denying I'm just saying that I would not have more than six you know how like Owen Wilson is that who it is and he's like wow like that's you like when I hear six children that's exactly what I do in my mind listen to this except for you and I'm gonna now send you a clip of him doing it because it's just so funny because when I hear people somebody say that

they are gonna have six kids I honestly question their mental stability are you looking up this video right now I'm not gonna send it to you right at this moment oh I thought you were sending it out can we post it on the coffee combos Instagram story oh absolutely I just feel like I didn't I've said it before I'm sure these people are sick of hearing me say it but I just didn't have siblings and like family before and so like having a big family was always not I would I don't want to say always but since I started having kids I think I always wanted my kids to have siblings that's funny because I feel exactly the

opposite oh like I feel and maybe it's just like a blended family situation or something like that it just didn't work out for me right yeah I'm not really feeling that like I feel like if I had when I have another baby with Will no more no longer if but when we do I think it'll be fine because it's you know it's all fine and I feel like the way you're raising your kids you're raising them as like actual siblings but I feel yeah sometimes like the blended thing gets I agree hated and whatever so for that reason I've been super hesitant because you know well and I did have marriage problems and stuff so I had to think

about all of those things like if I'm gonna have another child I definitely would want it to be with Will you know what it's it's interesting that you brought that up and that you said that sometimes a blending a blended family doesn't really work out and I think that that's a really good point that we've never really talked about is like people always ask me about my relationship with V or my relationship with Lauren and I don't have a relationship with Lauren I still don't and I don't have any desire to however that being said Eli is Lincoln's brother and so I would never want to make it harder for him to

have a relationship with his brother I want my kids to have like VV Eli Lux and the new baby will be Isaac and Lincoln's full siblings like all of them no matter what are gonna be you know what I mean like raised as full siblings I don't even care yeah like that's just what it is but I think that you're right I think there are definitely families who struggle with it and as adults like they just weren't close with you know my dad's other kids or my or my mom's other kids or you know what I mean like and I don't want that I can tell you where I think it goes wrong and again I'm speaking from experience of a child and

not experience from doing it so this is just my perspective but I think it goes wrong when the focus is on your hate towards the person that you were with versus the focus being on the children's best interest and like what having the children at the forefront instead of focusing on your feelings surrounding everything else I think it can work if that is the way that it's set up okay yeah I could see that I could I definitely think yeah because I mean I think about like if Chris was to have kids with somebody else that would be really really really difficult for me but I think ultimately I when push comes

to shove I would put Lux's relationship with his siblings first I mean maybe not right away but I definitely would come around to it just because I want them to have that relationship with their siblings yeah like that's the most important important yeah well before I forget because if anybody knows me personally you know that my mind literally runs like a thousand miles a minute and so I jump from like thing to thing to thing see when you were talking about the car and you were giving that analogy it triggered me to ask you about your breakdown oh shit okay so my car went into the shop a couple weeks ago I

think I talked about it on the podcast I'm not happy about it because my car my truck is a 2018 I bought it brand new and I just put $2,000 into like maintenance and just like keeping it up to date and like doing all the things because I need to ride it until the wheels fall off long story short that two grand went into my truck about a month ago and so I'm we're on the highway just cruising headed to Target and my car the turn signals the speedometer the gas gauge the AC everything just shut off but it was still work like it was still running so I'm like what the fuck is going on like why is all of why is everything and like all

the emergency lights like popped up and I was like oh my god like I'm I can't do this like I'm eight months pregnant I have my toddler in the backseat like what the fuck am I gonna do get to Target pull into a parking spot and turn the car off and then it won't go back on so anyway so the car turns off and doesn't go back on well fast-forward pop the hood play with a few wires the car goes back on you you're playing with wires I'm dead no I'm not someone who shall know if this happens to me mind you I'm crying like I'm physically crying like there's tears and water coming out of my face someone

that shall go nameless plays with wires under the hood it gets the car to go back on and it's now driving me home because in the event that something happens obviously he's not gonna leave me on the side of the fucking road so stranded pregnant no air conditioner whatever was mind you it was 95 degrees outside this day so he gets me home I'm home call AAA they come tow the car the truck to the Chevy dealership so now it's been there since Tuesday it's now Friday I have a rental car that I'm paying for and I get a frickin text message which I sent you another $1400 like I don't even I just got a credit

card I just got one I'm offended I'm what do you want me to do what do you want me they want you to put it it's like they want you to put it on your credit cards since they feel like you got one now you know what that's I just can't believe the cost of things honestly you know what I think like I swear by this I'm gonna relate this to like Apple I swear that when they come out with a new phone shit starts breaking I wonder if you're doing that with cars now I think they always happen but it's just weird that the text message that I got describing the problem I don't know it just was it just didn't sound right it

didn't feel right but obviously they know what they're doing I just can't believe that that's my truck is two years old there is no reason why it should have had all the problems that it's had listen I get extended warranty on my car well I didn't think about it I just I guess I just was like oh it's fine well my what my regular warranty was out because I put over 50,000 miles on it already so I never thought about getting an extended warranty like it didn't even cross my mind I did an extended warranty and I do it every single time because I am the type of person that will literally pull off the

lot and somebody smash into me well now I know for my next car because I mean I didn't even I truly did not even think about that now you know well I did want to bring this up because I just saw this in the news and I don't know how much is true and how much is false but I'm gonna talk about it because I have heard multiple people say it that some states are going back to phase one with this quarantine stuff um I did hear about that I know in Delaware our beaches and like restaurants and stuff opened back up and now my friend texted me and she sent me to restaurants on the beach have temporarily closed again well I saw

that Texas was going back to phase one I think and then I think Tennessee is Georgia's crazy as hell so we probably won't neither will Florida you know Florida won't Florida won't but then I saw another thing and I don't know what state it was in but they were talking about closing all the bars in that state at noon today so I'm like oh wow and there have been spikes in numbers but then in the president's speech or whatever he was talking about how there's been so much more testing in the US so with more testing comes higher numbers so I mean I don't know how much truth there is to that or not I did read

another report that said that if there was a second wave that there wouldn't be any quarantine or whatever they wouldn't shut down so I don't also know how much truth is in that but I do know that I've read from two different colleges in the state of Georgia that after Thanksgiving break they will go digital for the rest of the semester to close it out I'm sorry say that again they're gonna go back to school at the regular time and then they're gonna go digital after Thanksgiving yeah after Thanksgiving break because I think that's like when flu season like probably I don't know when when it starts but it

might be like a peak or something there's got to be a reason why they're closing after Thanksgiving break but campus will be closed at these two schools after Thanksgiving break into second semester so I have no freaking idea but I will tell you that we got a survey from our school district did y'all get one yet I did not get anything from our school district I did get about New Jersey what did it say I'm gonna pull it up write me out and read it don't say something that's gonna piss me off I'll tell you before you read that I'm gonna tell you what our survey said so

okay it was really hard for me to make determination because there have been no guidelines that have been given so if there was gonna be or if there is gonna be a return to school at normal time they haven't stated what those guidelines will be so I feel like the surveys will be skewed because I'm basing my answer off of what the school's going to do I know for a fact that I won't send my kid to school if he's got to wear a mask all day because one I don't think that's safe or sanitary I don't think kids are gonna wear them and I think it's just a greater possibility to spread germs by them sharing masks taking them on and

off touching their face more whatever so that's like a big no-no for me but then the second option was to continue digital learning and you would have an option to be able to put your kid in the class every nine weeks which I guess is like the quarters so if you choose digital learning then it would be for the first nine weeks of school and then you have the option to be able to send your kid back into the class and this is just like a survey to kind of see where parents heads were I chose the digital option only because I want them to be prepared for it but I also didn't know what the guidelines were gonna be to be

able to choose the in-school option which is what I would prefer because I think it's needed but I'm like I don't know and they're not really giving any answers yet so we have to make that determination by July 17th if we're gonna keep our kid at home or if we're gonna send them out to school so have you and I we're gonna send Lincoln to a different elementary school this year because I their key was gonna start a Spanish immersion program but that being said I don't know that we will transfer because we don't know the status of Delaware schools at all like we don't even have a deadline to make a decision

by so is this gonna be like in the public school system that he's going or is it just like a private whatever no it's in the public school system that he was gonna go to they have a Spanish immersion program or whatever but I just feel like if there's any type of half situation where he wouldn't go at first and then start in January or he went at first and then stop going in January anything like that or like the a.m. p.m. type of situation I don't think would be beneficial for him because he's going into first grade and starting the Spanish immersion program I don't think it would be worth switching schools for

him at all I just feel like that would be pointless do you know what I'm saying so long story short we don't have as far as I'm aware any deadlines or anything like that for making a decision I just know that I need to be able to plan accordingly and furthermore if this coronavirus is gonna get worse I was telling my friend today I said I'm gonna have to come up with a situation with Joe and Javi and Chris with Lincoln Lux and Isaac because I'm gonna have a brand-new newborn like a brand-new baby and I can't subject my kid like I know Leah has had her girls since quarantine started they've not gone to their dads

last last that I spoke to Leah so I would have to figure that out with my kids dads because I know that they're still working and so with a newborn and you know Lincoln going over to his dad's or Joe having Isaac I wouldn't be able to keep it away from the newborn and especially if they're going to school too well exactly so those are all very valid concerns concerns yeah for sure well keep us updated on your situation but I know here in Georgia I have to make the decision by July 17th what we're gonna do so we're praying in this house and just praying for guidance and pray that we make the right decision for

our kid it says for this New Jersey article that I sent you it says 2,500 public schools will open their doors for the 2020 to 2021 school year but classes will be like well what the fuck I can't even talk but classes will be unlike anything students and teachers have ever experienced before students will say six feet apart in classrooms and on buses lunchtimes will be staggered and teachers will be required to wear masks like there's a ton does that I'm not gonna get into like the nitty-gritty of this because we've already talked about quarantine but I don't understand the benefit if the kids aren't wearing

masks and the teachers are wearing masks what good is that going to do I just think it's a mess I think it's all a mess and I think that really nobody knows what to do so I think it's just shooting in the dark like okay let's do this because it sounds good right anyway anyway moving on I wanted to let you guys know that we have posted on the coffee combos podcast Instagram page about how the last two episodes were pre-recorded episodes we weren't quite sure when we were going to be able to release anything and so we kind of started recording I guess prematurely because we were so excited to be able to

get back and then those episodes just kind of sat for several weeks until it was time for our launch so everything has been released in the order that we recorded it in and so now we're going to be more up to speed with everything that currently is going on and I did just want to quickly address the protest and what else Kale is going on black black lives matter George Floyd and just educating ourselves and our children you know the best that we can feel like there is so much hate and negativity that is going on in the world like more than I have ever seen and I know that obviously it's been going on

for a very very very long time and I don't know if it's because of quarantine that you know people are slowing down but what we have seen in 2020 is literally uncharted waters in so many ways and I just as a mother my heart has been broken and I know that my approach has always been you know will and I've had these conversations before that we don't want to raise Jackson ignorant and so we've basically just did the approach of we aren't going to talk about it because everybody's the same and all over social media I have been seeing that you know that is the wrong way to approach it and so I am now taking the approach as a

mother and will is taking the approach as a father will read with Jackson every single night it's always something that they have done to further educate and just being able to use books to open meaningful conversation and I just want everybody to know who is listening if you have faced racial adversities I hear you I know that I personally haven't and I don't understand it because I haven't faced that but I'm standing with you and I hear you and I promise to raise children who are educated on racial injustices and I promise to provide as much information as I possibly can as I am learning to use coffee combos

podcasts in our Instagram page as a resource for parents who are listening who want to open up the conversations with their children and have a way to be able to bridge that gap and to be able to have the conversation where it flows naturally I think books are such a great way to do that and I know Kale you've ordered some books and you've ordered some different ones that I don't have and I probably have some that you don't have yeah and I plan to post next week well when this airs I plan to post a resource of the books combined of what you have and what I have for parents to be able to look at those and to order them for

their children and just to piggyback off of what you're saying I have biracial children as everyone knows and I am fully aware and acknowledge my ignorance in the past to certain things and I just like Lindsay said I don't understand and I didn't understand but I'm opening my eyes I'm listening I'm learning and furthermore just educating my kids because my kids are biracial and I need I need them to know that I'm learning with them so like Lindsay said the book thing was a big deal and I think that that was good for for you to to add so I have the day you begin as a book that was the first book

that I had gotten by Raphael Lopez it's really actually it's really cute book but it is a great conversation starter there's a couple other ones it's okay to be different teacher dragon about diversity are just some of the ones that I've ordered but like I said or like Lindsay said we'll post all the ones that we've ordered on our coffee combos page and if you guys have anything that you guys want us to share we are definitely open to doing that and I just I feel like going through quarantine and going through the whole joy George Floyd movement and the protest and seeing all of this stuff and opening up

conversation in my house I truly feel moved to turn coffee combos podcast Instagram page into a resource for parents to be able to go on there and to be able to find things that are meaningful and yeah I love that to be able to use us as resources as as mothers and I want to use the listeners as a resource for me to help further educate me so you guys I also wanted to talk about how we are opening up a what would you call it Keel like a line for you guys to be able to call in so it's gonna be for what like voicemail yes and you guys can call in and leave a voicemail and I think we are going the idea behind

this is to be able to start a segment on the podcast for maybe 10 or 15 minutes of each episode to be able to get into those voicemails to play them for you guys so that you can hear listener voice and to be able to respond to those you know we've tried in the past to to read direct messages and that works great but I just feel like this is a better way to engage with you guys on a more personal level and we will be posting that number on the coffee combos Instagram page for you guys to be able to find it whenever you decide to use it yes what Lindsay said what I said listen to me I'm on a lighter note I was gonna be get deep but

you go on a lighter note and then I'll go on a deep note man should we go deeper light right now cuz mine's like very light go you go first okay so I wanted to talk about something that I've been doing research on and it's about like training your pits and your hair when you said pits I immediately thought like pit bull okay no no I'm not talking about that I'm talking about your armpits training them how so I used to be a person what's let's talk about the hair first I used to be a person that used to wash my hair like every day when I was in school and college yes that's what you did but as I've gotten

older I'm like okay that could not possibly be more wrong yeah like yeah it's not healthy to do that and so I have basically over time over like the last couple of years been able to train my hair to where I can go like three days without washing it which is great for me because I was an everyday hair washer and I will say there are some exceptions that I might wash my hair back to back but that's like if I did a heavy workout and I like super sweat it or I got in the lake and my hair got like nasty lake water in it or whatever but you have to like train your hair right so it doesn't like over time it'll get less greasy

between washes so it's like the same concept with pits like if you're using more natural deodorants because at first when I started using natural deodorants I was like oh I don't know if this works and then now I feel like it definitely works but I think it's been like an overtime thing does that make sense yes but I just my armpits oh have always been like really bad like smelly like are you a smelly person I get Botox in my armpits I've never had Botox on my actual face but I've had Botox in my armpits because for that reason because you smell because my armpits yeah wow kale and I describe this smell literal

be oh oh wow so like and it's weird because I have not been able to get Botox in my armpits because of being pregnant so I've been using a more natural deodorant because like quarantine I don't really have to go anywhere so like it's right it's like more fine so I started using this one deodorant called Mitchum have you heard of it yeah but I didn't know that was natural oh maybe it's not I'm pretty sure it's not we'll use is that I'm pretty sure oh I'll post a photo of what we'll use it but I didn't know that you could train them yeah you can train your pits so I might need to further research on

this and I'll get back to you guys about it but then I also was hearing something that somebody said I'm not gonna mention their name of what they said but they said that they felt like after doing like laser hair removal underneath their arms that their armpits were less smelly so I'm like okay is that a thing too okay I'm glad you brought that up because I was getting my brows wax today for the first time in months because of honestly and we were talking about because I was on Accutane I couldn't get wax so this was like my first like wax with her but also in months because I had you know quarantine

or whatever but anyway and we brought up hit laser hair removal and I was wondering if that would be helpful if my hair was not in my armpits because I feel like the damn kale like how long do you go between shaves no I'm just saying like even like the fallow no but I'm saying like the hair follicle yeah like I wonder does it collect like oil and like odor death it definitely does so but I have not heard the thing the only thing that I've heard about laser hair removal is that it actually is very painful you guys need to inform us on this stuff like we need answers do we think laser hair removal under your pits helps you be

less stinky and then the second thing is is do you think that you can train your pits to use a more natural deodorant versus using one that's toxic and then the third question is would you rather be more stinky and use like a more natural remedy or would you rather be toxic and use a toxic chemical under your pits I need answers to all those questions so also does here laser hair removal hurt because I want to get it on my cat and I want to get it on my armpits on your cat like your badge yeah oh my gosh I found a gray one what yeah you have an old cat no one gray cat hair no first of all whoa back up yesterday first of

all okay I'm not gonna get to the nitty-gritty cuz I don't want people to know all this information about me but I need to know how you precisely found one gray cat hair goodbye I had to move my belly out of the way it was really weird my friend was looking at my belly no you know what delete this we're not so I moved my belly and I saw it and I was like oh my god that's really gray so I long story short I need to get laser hair removal but you pull it out I tried but I can't my belly's in the way so I'm gonna I just shaved it off bye no I heard that laser hair removal only removes dark hair so like great ones

will stay I hope it was only one and is that caused by stress then if that was the case your whole cat would be gray well I heard like gray hair comes from stress so if I'm not if gray hair that's I think you're just giving an old kill oh my god I think that's what's happening okay so let's move on from from gray cats okay okay what was the sad thing that you want to tell me if it's super sad don't well I have to I want to talk about it because I need to hear theories and I my friend knows these people this person so I that's why I really want to talk about it so see there was a man in Baltimore who got had a pregnant girlfriend

eight months pregnant and she already had a three-year-old the pregnant mother and the three-year-old were left shot to death in the car in Baltimore and the suspect was apprehended and is being held without bail he was actually just transferred to another prison but I'm gonna send you the story I just want to know like what your theory is do we think that he did it I supposedly they're holding him without evidence but I said I just don't think that they can do that I think this is one of those situations where they can't say what the evidence is because it's an ongoing investigation yeah for sure but like give our listeners

some more background information okay I'm gonna get it right now should we say the name since it's in the it's in the media yeah I mean it's in the media then we can say the names okay that way they can look it up okay so I'm gonna read part of it Devon state Devon Devon or Devon I'm not really sure how it's pronounced sample charged in the murder of pregnant woman and her three-year-old daughter held without bail he's a 24-year-old man being charged with their murders her and the new baby's father have been arguing and that's when police found Sam sample is his last name with records showing he had been pulled over

last month in the same car that the woman and her daughter were found dead in he's being charged with 16 counts including first-degree murder but I guess they're hoping to charge him under a new law called Laura and Reed's law designed to protect pregnant women oh wow so I'm just curious to know like did he not want the baby did he what was it domestic violence like did you go there to plan to kill her what is the situation and I just why why like I just I'm I don't know if it's hitting me harder because I'm pregnant or because the three-year-old was involved the whole situation is just really sad and I wanted

to know if one anyone had any details on the case and to what if they had heard of it and what their theories are because they're not saying what they're like what the evidence is when you're telling me about this it makes me think of that other story that we covered on the podcast about the woman who was pregnant and then the man had like a girlfriend but he killed his two daughters too I forget what their names were do you remember that story yeah and basically the motive I guess was to like get rid of them so that he could move on with his life but I just don't understand like obviously the things that people do

with this kind of stuff are not logical thinkers or else they wouldn't be doing this kind of stuff but it's like what would possess you to think that you're gonna get away with this well why kill the three-year-olds like first of all why are you killing the mom if you don't she's already eight months pregnant so go away just walk away I mean it's unfortunate and it's fucking sad for kids to grow up without their fathers but I mean if you don't want the child then just walk away you don't have to kill anybody I know that's what's so crazy that's why I can't grasp in any of these situations and it's there's when

you see it on the news there's so many similarities to stories like if you really follow stuff the way that people move they have to have like some type of sickness like well so Devon I don't know if it's Devon or Devon anyway his brother posted an Instagram post and said like free my brother blah blah blah and the comments were like right or wrong free him and it's like no we're not freeing him if he killed a pregnant woman in her three-year-old no he that's wrong in every aspect but I do think it's wrong if they don't have evidence to be holding him I don't think they can legally do that I don't think that they

but I anything that I've seen they can't discuss on an ongoing investigation so they might just not be showing the evidence right now right because it's obviously under investigation and they don't want to blow their investigation right you're not gonna give any information well that's that's very interesting will you post that article or send it yes so that yes I will like do a swipe up for it yes that's seriously so insane and the stuff that you see in the news is literally so insane but I wonder sometimes does the news like obviously they beef stuff up but also for a long period of time after I had

Jackson I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast before but I literally deleted Facebook and yes yes because it gave me like PTSD well it's it's like the car thing that I brought up like when you have like it's like bringing a new life and then but you're seeing all the things that were wrong like you know what I mean like it's like not living in fear but like you want to protect this innocent person this little life that you created and but there's so many things that you just don't want to expose them to so it's easy when you go down that rabbit hole of looking for negative things to see the negative things and so

you don't want that to affect you know you having a new baby so I completely understand I just my heart goes out to this family to the three-year-olds family to the mothers family to the unborn babies family like we live in a fucked up world we really do we really do I'm like can it go back to being the 90s but like was this stuff going on in yeah it was I think it was and just like the age of the internet has just like made things more accessible for us to have more knowledge of things does that make yeah yes yeah um okay so next topic is you talked about on Instagram this week about how you're doing a homer

yep did we talk about that on the podcast yet I don't think we did I don't think so first of all no like hats off to you but no so I went into I know this sounds crazy and people would think I'm insane for this but I have I go to see an OBGYN through my insurance but I also paid out of pocket for a midwife and I know that sounds crazy but I just didn't know what to do with like the COVID situation and like what I saw myself doing for labor and delivery and so I just wanted to have all my bases covered so yesterday when I went to see the doctor she wasn't giving she never gave me a choice yesterday she said

we're inducing you at 39 weeks and at this point I know I'm having a home birth so she goes on to tell me you know we're testing everyone prior to their induction for COVID and you have one person that can be in the delivery room with you once they come in with you they cannot leave until you leave until you're discharged they have to quarantine we both have to quarantine for two weeks prior to the induction date so that all being said I was terrified and she's like well at least you have the peace of mind of knowing that you get tested for COVID before you go in and I was just like I don't want that thing

stuck up my nose I how am I supposed to tell you know whoever I'm with they have to quarantine what if I don't make a decision about who you know is gonna be in the delivery room until the day before you know what I'm saying I like you like me I have like what have a whole planner and be like okay these are the people that are gonna be here and this is gonna be the person on the right and this is the person on the left you you're like okay my mind changed 12 times I mean I definitely understand the precautions it's just a lot of stress and a lot of like I don't I wouldn't feel like I have control over my own body

my own labor and delivery at that time and to be perfectly honest with you I really have quarantined a lot since like just in my own personal time in my space so like I don't know that I would need to right no I plus again the position with my kids Isaac and Lincoln are still going to their dad so what am I supposed to do either send them to their dads for two entire weeks before I give birth and then they'd have to stay there after no I don't know how would I even do that like that's just not realistic I don't know I don't know what the right thing to do is so basically I'm doing the home birth you're doing the

home birth first of all literally hats off to you because I have remember that show that used to be on TLC where they used to do like the home births and stuff like in bathtubs do you remember that was it like I forget the name of the show but okay people listening if you know the name of the show then just tell us but I used to watch it this is like way before that I ever had Jackson and I used to watch it and be like that is so cool like I definitely want to do that but I definitely like the idea of modern medicine and being able to go and have my physician there and have the epidural and like all of that so I'm all

for that type of delivery but I also understand and completely respect the other side of people like to do it like like doing it non-medicated that's just not a thing for me but you can let me know how that goes Kale I will I've done both so like I personally don't I'm like you like I do not judge if you want to have an epidural and you want to have all the pain medicine go for it if you don't go for it like I'm all about informed choice so whatever works for whoever I don't judge I just I've done the hospital thing I've done epidural I've done natural I've done fentanyl I've done all of that so I just I know what my

body is capable of now since I had luxe completely natural not even a drip I didn't have like a pain med drip or anything like I did with Lincoln so I literally amazing but I am terrified because the hospital does have all the pre all the precautions you know in place but what does that look like for a home birth and then like like maybe I should take some of those precautions and apply them to my home birth definitely I definitely think you should take some of those precautions and apply them to the home birth but like can we go into details of like are you having the baby in your bed you know I can't

when I picture myself laboring and delivering for some reason I picture myself because everything's my my master bathroom the baby's little nursery and my room are all connected so but I picture myself giving birth in the baby's room for some reason really but like what am I gonna do just like squat down I don't know my friend just had a home birth and she delivered in the shower and I was like just like squat is that what you're saying you're you're going to be on your feet and you're squatting and it's coming out maybe I'll be on all fours like maybe I'll be up up on all fours I don't know but I also I'm

also gonna just order a ton of sheets for my bed just in the event that I decide that I want to do it in my bed I just I don't know that I can see myself birthing in my bed I I don't know why the shower sounds good to me the bathtub actually does not sound good to me because my bathtub is like one of those deep ones that has jets in it and I feel like it would be very hard for me to get in and then get out if I wanted to get out I'm truly afraid of what's called a BBA born before arrival which is what Lux was born before my doctor arrived so I'm a little bit scared of that happening at home be just because I'm like do I

suck the mucus out do I not suck the mucus out do I cut the umbilical cord do I leave it attached do I call it out the with the bulb the bulb the nose bulb that you put in the baby's nose yes like when they when you deliver it out I don't know when they deliver at a hospital they do it with that bulb that little blue thing yes oh wow I had no idea that was going on you didn't ever know that they did that no I feel like when I've anytime I've like seen a video or something they aggressively suck it out I mean I don't think it's actually as aggressive as okay now I am terrified to have another baby I'm not trying to

scare you I don't think it's as aggressive I think it just looks like it is but like if I'm not sticking a bulb up your own cat like that no not my cat not my cat not my cat then where does it go I'm talking about the baby's nose and mouth when it comes out oh my gosh I thought you meant that you were gonna suck stuff out of there and I was with that bulb and I was like what I've never seen this listen I am just nervous why I should not have a home birth because I literally know nothing nothing I'll let you know I honestly think that I'll be more scared the second time because you know what to expect yes yes a hundred

percent a hundred percent I just yeah I don't I definitely want to do a home birth I think it will be cool I'm gonna film it I hope I say that now because I'm not in labor but when I'm in active labor I don't know what I'm gonna do interesting so wait what does that look like for the teen mom side of it right because they've never seen a home birth well I told so I told one of the producers I said you know I'm definitely willing to film it as much as I can on my own but I do not want the crew there just because of COVID and a newborn and all of that like it's just not it's not something I'm okay with and they seem to

be on board I'm gonna like I said I say that I'm gonna record it because I'm not in labor right this moment but I would love I would love to film it just to have like my own personal video of it but what if you had somebody else that like you're super close to come and like hold the camera and capture it all that could also quarantine for two weeks yeah I would be okay with that as long as they're quarantining for two weeks yeah see that could be that could be a thing um well I'm doing 28 days so give or take two weeks quarantining so somebody's got a quarantine like stat I'm I'm actually

literally terrified for you to be honest but I am really excited to see the pictures that's so vain of me what do you mean that's not vain I just feel like you're going through all this pain and I'm just like I just want to see the pictures of the home no I don't think I think that's fine like if it's not for you but you're interested in it I think that's that's fine should I send you chocolate-covered strawberry so between contractions you can take a little bite no no I don't know and if anyone a bouquet chocolate-covered bananas but not chocolate-covered strawberries that's a conversation for another day yeah but

before we go it's gonna go a little bit over but I just had to read this message that I got and actually we received a ton of them because I didn't honestly realize how much coverage that this story got until we talked about it so it says hey Lindsay I don't ever DM people but I felt necessary to do so after listening to you and Kale talk about the YouTube family who gave up their adopted son because of his diagnosis I'm a mother of a son with autism I have three sons my middle son Cooper is four years old and has autism he was diagnosed at two years old is unlikely to be able to be diagnosed

before the age of two most children on the spectrum progress normally through their first year and then as they get into their second year they start to lose a lot of the things that they once knew how to do their verbal skills are usually well behind kids that are there in age and or they never just come at all Cooper is non-verbal and it can be very hard for him to be able to communicate his wants and needs and he has a different relationship with his brothers and typical brothers however it is still loving and amazing to watch as they grow to begin to interact with each other being an autism mom it can be

hard as hell and scary however he is my son and we will never and that will never change I will fight for whatever he needs and strive for him to be the best that I can be you won't give up your own child and an adopted child should be the exact same we need to educate and help families and children who are dealing with autism these kids should not be shunned or hiding from the public view of life they should be celebrated and be able to admit that we don't all have the answers but we all want to help and do what we can sorry for the mom rant just wanted to give a little info as a mom who went through the process of

getting a diagnosis for my son I love the podcast oh wow so that was a lot but I love the message and I love I agree with everything they said yeah I definitely agree I did read other messages and I'm not stating that these are facts because these are literally listener messages I trust you guys but I don't want anybody to say that like I said this I did read from multiple messages that they were aware of medical issues before they adopted and I do know that the mother has gone on Instagram and posted a public apology and how basically she had watched I think one video on adoption or something like that

prior to making the choice but I still stand with what I said on the last episode that I feel like as an adult when you make adult decisions that are so hugely impactful on your life and a life of another person that when you're making that type of decision you need to be well informed and that's not an overnight decision that you make and I think the situation should have been handled completely differently agreed agreed with everything you said so with that being said I did a survey on Instagram about where you guys are listening to us I do want to let you guys know that in the link in our bio it

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