Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 116: Throwing Out Our Kid's Stuff, Strange Phone Calls, and The Bachelorette

Episode Date: August 6, 2020

This week on Coffee Convos, Lindsie's friend Karley Lane joins her again to host while Kail is out on maternity leave. First they discuss how they come to the decision to get rid of some of their kid's things. How long does it need to remain untouched, and how do the kids feel about it? And lately, Ellen DeGeneres has been all over the news, and Lindsie and Karley have a lot of thoughts on that. Recently Lindsie has been receiving some strange phone calls, and the story just gets weirder and weirder. All this plus speculations about how the next season of The Bachelorette will look, on this week's episode of Coffee Convos. Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Hey y'all, welcome to Coffee Combo, dressed down in good scale. Oh my goodness, I am so excited to be able to have you co-host Coffee Combo's for about 15 minutes today. Are you so excited? Yes, I am. What do you think Kale's doing? Well, I think she's taking care of the little baby. Yeah, she is and I miss her so much, but I'm so glad to be able to bring you on and to

see what you're up to and to ask you questions that the Instagram world wants to know. Instagram wants to know a lot of stuff. They always want to know a lot of stuff, don't they? Pretty busy. Pretty busy. Well, let me get to the questions. We're going to jump right into it. So the first question is, do you think corona is scary?

Corona? Hmm. I would have to say it's kind of scary and not scary at the same time. It is. Well, what's the part that makes you scared? The part that makes me scared, why it makes me scared is that I'm like, I've had a feeling for a couple of days that I'll get it. Oh, you've been feeling like that?

Mm-hmm. Well, what's the part that doesn't scare you? The part that doesn't scare me is I get to do homeschool, which is exciting. Well, that was actually another one of the questions was, do you enjoy being homeschooled or are you sad that you didn't go back to school? Well, happy that I'm homeschooled. You are? Mm-hmm.

What is it about homeschool that you enjoy? Because I have my own computer and my own room. This time I don't have to work in my mom's office. She doesn't want me to because she doesn't want a bunch of noise coming up here. People don't usually come upstairs to do stuff. So yeah. Well, do you think that I maybe don't want you in my office because you might probably make it into my stuff?

Yes, I think that and April sure will come in there and do a phone call when daddy usually comes up here to get lunch. So yes, she also thinks that will distract me, which will. Well, that is such a great answer. Can you tell me what you think about wearing a face mask and how that has changed your life? Well, as long as I'm around, I will wear a face mask and it has changed my life a lot, but I'm okay with wearing a mask.

It's cool. Well, people want to know how upset you were when you didn't get to play baseball last season. It was very upsetting. Do you feel like that was going to be your breakout season, like the best season that you had ever played? And is that why you were so upset? Yeah, and I feel like my dad said I would win a trophy and it was the best team I had

and I really felt like I was going to win, but at least I want a few dollars and stuff. Well, that sounds good. Somebody asked if you could be any superhero in the world, what would it be? I want to be a spy, very bad. Well, what about being a spy interest you? It's just like you get to spy on people and it's interesting because it's very interesting. Well tell me what's so interesting about it. What do you want to know about people?

I want to know what they're doing, so for example, if they were eating something, if they stole like a food, why would you do that? And sometimes people just come to be in a mask, fake. People be fake and you want to find out what's going on. Yeah, and I want to find out what's doing a mask because usually people like wear masks then you take it off and then it's just a regular poster. Well can you tell me who your favorite baseball team is and who is your favorite baseball player?

Hmm, I would have to say my favorite baseball team, Ace. The Ace? This is news to me. You're telling coffee combos before you've told me this, I thought it was the Mets. No, not anymore. So what changed your mind? This is a huge decision. I liked the Ace because I was on the Ace.

Oh, okay, so since you haven't been in Mets, yeah, you like the Ace. What baseball player is your favorite baseball player? Myself. Yourself? I play very good. Well, I'm glad you're so confident, buddy, but we're talking about somebody who is a professional, like somebody everybody would know. I think I know.

Okay. It's Noah Cindergaard. Tell everybody why you like Noah Cindergaard. Because long hair and my mom, it's a fit every time I want to say it, and she won't like me, but me and my dad will find a way to sneak out and do it. Well, you want to grow your hair out to be like Noah Cindergaard. Yes. But my whole problem with you growing your hair out is not about the long hair.

I don't care about that. It's that you fit about washing your hair, because even the past two mornings that I asked you if you washed, I had to double check to see if you had washed your hair and you fit to me twice. Is that true? It's true, but the kind I want to grow it out is I just want to grow it like overlap two times. Like this, I would want it like right here.

I have the kind of hair right now. It's doing decent right now. And then I would like to do it one more thing, like this, then like one more lap like that. Really? I'm going to do it. So can you tell us if you think that you want to be an only child forever, or do you still want a brother or sister? Only child.

Oh, well, what changed your mind? It just changed my mind really much, because mom, I don't want those babies to take my toys. I mean, I don't want them to do that, because they'll be more interested in my toys. So the next question is, do you wish that I cleaned less, or do you like having a clean house? Well, well, I like you cleaning, I like it that you clean, I do. But do you get upset if maybe sometimes you have to clean?

Is that the worst thing in the world? It's one of the worst things in the world. Well, what is the worst thing in the world, by the way? Hmm, why? Did somebody ask you that? No, I'm just, I'm wondering, what do you think is the worst thing in the world? I think it would be picking up. Picking up would be the worst thing in the world?

I don't think it would. Okay, well, one of the last questions I'm going to ask you is, if you had $1,000, what would you buy? Choose wisely. Okay, that is a hard question, did somebody ask you that? Yeah, somebody asked me that. Okay, well, I was doing that on our hike, and I would choose a pool, a big pool, and I would have like rocks built with it, and then I would have a rock built hot tub on

top of it. Wow. So, you're going to do all of that with your $1,000? Well, I would have $1,000, and that's the question, we don't know if I'll have $1,000. No, I'm saying if you did have $1,000, that's what you would spend it on. Okay, yes, I would. Okay, so the last two questions, and you have to answer them separately, what's your favorite thing about your mom, and your favorite thing about your dad?

Okay. Mom. What? That's weird, we're doing then the mom, I'm saying what I like about mom, okay, this is the mom's, spaghetti. You like that I make spaghetti? Mm-hmm, and she lets me sleep with her. Yeah, and then what's your favorite thing about dad?

Okay, that's hard. That's hard. Dad lets me sit down with him and watch his TV, and he lets me play with Della, and carry her. Yeah, I don't let you carry Della too much, do I? She doesn't like it. All right, all right, all right, did that sound like Matthew McConaughey or Carly? Just like him, just like him.

Do you want to do your own prediction? No, I don't, not in any way. The last time I did an interpretation, it was Owen Wilson, where he's like, what is the thing that he does? I'm trying to think of it. I don't know, you guys will remind me of what it was, but the last time I did it, it was really funny. Well, it made me laugh, I don't know if it made everybody else laugh, but it was really

funny. I hope you guys enjoyed Jackson on the podcast, he has been so looking forward to being on it, and I tell him it's only an annual thing, because he bugs me about it all the time. He's like, can I please just be on the whole episode, and I'm like, Jackson, I don't think people are interested in an hour-long conversation with you playing with Scooby-Doo. He could just start his own. I don't know, he could have like a seven-year-old, this is demographic, and like kids listen to Jackson's podcast.

Ray would be into it. I know, well, speaking of that, Jackson wants to do a YouTube so bad, and I just don't have the heart. Carly has been, by the way, Carly is back on the podcast, I forgot to say that, but we were on a walk last week, and she was telling me all about Ryan's World, and I don't know how I don't know this information about Ryan's World that she was giving me, so who else as kids watches Ryan's World and thinks it's a scam? I feel as though you should feel extremely blessed to have made it through seven years

of parenting, and not been subjected to Ryan's World. It is, I can hear it from the furthest point in my house from the TV, I can hear his parents talking, and it is like nails on a chalkboard. So tell me why you think that their whole life is a scam, because they don't have furniture in their home? That's weird. That's weird. So you can tell, if you watch early Ryan videos, and then current Ryan videos, they've clearly

had a change in the way they live, because they're millionaires now from their YouTube videos. So they have this huge mansion. And all of their exclusives in Target, Walmart, and just yes. And they bought an office space that's super decked out in a bunch of kids stuff, but then they film a lot of videos at home, and it's like this multi-million dollar house in California that has an in-ground pool, and this amazing kitchen, but there's like no, when I say no furniture, I mean no furniture.

The only thing in their living room is a stark white sectional couch. And also, who has a white sectional with kids? Right. And now I have twins. They create slimes. Yes. And they have two twins that are younger than Ryan, but there's nothing in their house. So playing devil's advocate, what if they are like house broke, and they had enough

to buy the house, but they didn't have enough to buy the furniture? Then don't film your videos, and you're empty house. Okay, true, true. Fair enough. Okay, well before we get into everything today, I did just want to briefly say again that we miss Kale so much. She confirmed that she did have the baby with E-News, I believe it was yesterday. He arrived at home on July 30th, and it was at 2.47 p.m., and he was a whopping eight

pounds, 15 ounces, and 22 and a half inches long. So big congratulations to Kale and her growing family. The baby does not have a name yet, but she is so overjoyed and just so in love. And it's just such a fun and happy time to be able to see a friend going through and doing all of those things, and also makes me want to be pregnant like eight to nine. He's a big boy too, it's exciting. I know. And speaking of while we're on that topic, I went on E-News Instagram page and there

was thousands of comments on there from Kale's announcement, and it's amazing to me that people, this is not just about Kale, but about anybody really that social media followed, that people will just jump straight to assumptions about things. The amount of comments that were on there that were talking about her fourth baby dad was insane to me. And it's like, okay, do you actually watch the show or do you actually follow Kale? Because if you did, then you would know that that one is untrue. Who cares if it was her fourth baby dad?

If it was, why do you have that much time to go on E-News to comment about it? And it's just people just are so nasty and vicious when it comes to just typing on a keyboard about people that they don't even know. And it's insane. Yeah. I've never understood how you can look at a total stranger's life and shake your head at them in any way. When you don't know them, you don't know them personally.

You clearly don't follow them closely. You're not even a fan. You're just a person who saw this and jumped to your own conclusion and felt like you needed to say something. And it's like, I'm glad that you jumped to the conclusion that she has four baby dads because she has four children. Does that mean that if somebody doesn't know me when I have my second baby that I'm going to have two baby dads, I mean, maybe somebody will say that.

Right. I don't know. But who cares? I know. That was my biggest thing. I was just like, what truly is it to you? Why do you care so much? Why are you so invested in this?

And it was like a lot of people invested in the exact same thing and it's like, okay, please get a life. And I just got bored with the comments. I was like, okay, whatever, fuck off. But anyway, so I wanted to tell you guys that Jackson started school on Monday. And for those who are following me on Instagram, you know that I posted a back to school photo and people were like, oh, I thought he was, you know, doing homeschool or whatever. Well, yeah, but I still wanted to have like cute back to school pictures.

And he still wanted to backpack for whatever reason for homeschool and, you know, we kind of thought him on it and we're like, you don't need a backpack for homeschool, but also we're trying to create like as normal of an environment as we possibly can. So we kind of let him get all the same things that he would get as if he were going to school in the classroom. But yeah, according to TMZ today, our county in Paulding County is just breaking the news like all over for what it was all over TMZ. The article says Georgia schools.

It says Georgia schools reopening kids crammed in the hall get ready for the spike. As Georgia schools reopening may very well be exhibit a on the lack of COVID-19 safety precautions in place for students. Just look at this hallway, which looks like a super spreaders dream. This photo shows the first day back for kids in Paulding County, where the support of the Georgia Department of Education and partnership with the Georgia Department of Health schools are opening their doors with guidelines, not mandates on how to deal with a pandemic and judging from this pick, it's an absolute failure.

So this is the photo. Wow. Now, I did see the one with all the seniors in the senior class that were all crammed together, like no masks on and all of that and the internet's going wild over that photo too. So this is the high school that is actually like the Jackson's elementary and middle school feed into this high school. This was the photo this morning of them unloading off of the buses and you guys, I'm showing

Carly this picture. It's literally like us, like what would you call this like? It's like a line at 6th class. Like a stadium. Yeah. A line at a roller coaster. Yes. That's exactly what it looks like, except just like really wide.

And I'm just like, okay, wow, like that's amazing. So then after all of this, we have our first two days at home and obviously there are challenges with the digital, you know, side of things because you've got parents that are not monitoring their kids because maybe they're working and, you know, kids, mics are interfering with the teachers, so it's like, you know, all this echoing and whatever. But seems like today they were able to manage to figure out how to like turn the mics on and off for when they're supposed to be speaking. So there are challenges that are presented at home too, but there was a letter that went

out from Cherokee County School District, which is where we live today that says to a specific elementary school, dear parents, I am writing this letter in order to communicate that a student in second grade has tested positive for COVID-19. All students who have been deemed a close contact received a personal correspondence from the school and in an abundance of caution and accordance with our exposure and response plan, we will close the impacted classes effective immediately for 14 day quarantine window. If you're reading this notification, we have implemented Cherokee County School District safety protocols and partnership with the Department of Public Health, the affected

class will participate in a remote learning model during the closure windows. We continue to encourage all parents to temperature scan and monitor students closely for any sign of potential illness. This is the second day of school. Right. It's day two. I just don't like you hear something like that and then you see the pictures that have been shared and I just don't know what they're like, it is going to spread.

Students are going to get it and their plan is just to shut down class by class. So Will actually asked me about what the protocol was because he didn't even know and I said, well, you know, of course me, I'm such a reader. I read the whole thing that comes from the county, you know, the meeting minutes or whatever. And it's like they'll close down before they close the whole county, they'll close down individual classrooms, then the school, then the county. So it's like step by step that they're going to do, but obviously with as many people that are being infected, they're not mandating the mask.

It's going to spread, you know, so you have the second day of school and a second grader has tested positive at one of the local elementary schools. And then there was a camp, I think it's called Camp High Harbor in Georgia that had hundreds of kids infected over like one weekend. But then all the reports that you hear are like, oh, well, kids, you know, aren't susceptible to getting it and their chances of getting it are really slim. So it's like, okay, well, what really is it? Right.

I mean, we'll find out now that all these young kids are all together. I mean, we'll see what happens. But day two and a second grader has already tested positive, it's crazy. That's insane. And if I was a parent that had a child in that class, I would be so scared. Right. Well, this is what we were talking about last week on what we both wanted to avoid is sending the kids back to school for our own personal reasons.

And then a week later, they shut it down and now we're having to make all these adjustments for remote learning anyway. Right. So I'm just like, why not just, we're going to have a week under our belt since I've already started school, well, Jackson's already started school, but y'all haven't started yet. But I feel like come next week, there will be a confirmed case in the school and there will be classes that are closed. They're going to be digital learning anyway.

We already have a week of learning the system and everything under our belt before they're even getting started and they're having to do this whole, you know, transition period. So I don't know, but I'm just like, Georgia's doing the best job to like make the worst headlines always. And I feel like if a parent's goal right now is the least, like as minimal stress as possible, which I feel like everyone's on the same page about that, I feel like the best decision is just keep your kids home, especially if you live in Georgia. Well, yeah, absolutely.

And then, you know, Will made a good point, he was like, well, you know, you've got working parents that don't really have a choice because there are some people that have been in Jackson's digital learning class that you can tell that I don't know if they're raised by their grandparents or if it's just like grandparents helping them, but their grandparents are helping them. So it's like, you know, is their parent in a situation to where they can't stay home and like that is the reality for probably the majority of parents that have to send their kids. So I don't know, it's just like a shitty situation, whatever way you look at it.

But in other news, can we talk about throwing our kids stuff away? Yes, we love to talk about this. Yes. So we're in the middle of moving into a house and I was texting Lindsay, just yesterday, I sent her a picture and I cleaned out Ray's room, which is a very small room. We have one kid and I was threw away four huge black trash bags of Ray's stuff and then a box van that had been sitting in there that hadn't been working for like a few months. But it was like anything he hadn't touched in the last six months is either going to

Goodwill or it's going in the garbage. Oh my gosh. Well, so then I sent you a picture back of black trash bags and I don't know if it's like a Southern mom thing or if it's just like a mom thing, but I grew up with it too. I mean, if we left stuff laying around, my dad was going around with a black trash bag and it was going in it, like whether you liked it or not, he didn't care how much you paid for it. If he told you to pick it up and you didn't, it was going in the garbage.

So that is one parenting thing that I think that I've taken and it must have happened to Will too, because he also does it. So I don't know, but we go around with a black trash bag and it's very effective. Like Jackson's emotions get very heightened during that time. So do Ray's, but I think I've learned a lesson. I think I'm too quick to buy him things because it's easy with one because when they express and I know Jackson does it too, because I've seen it, but when they express such interest in something and they're on it for like more than a couple of weeks, you want to get it

for him. But then a year goes by and it's been sitting in their closet and they haven't touched it and it ends up in a black trash bag. So I think what I've learned in the last week is I need to be a little bit more choosy with the stuff I buy him because it's going to end up in a trash bag. Well, I will say, Will is very good about making Jackson think out what he wants instead of making instant choices and I'm really bad about going into Target and we'll be looking around and it's like, oh, it's only eight bucks.

So it's better to just buy it than to have to listen to you complain about it. But Will's definitely not like that and he's like, you should only get things on your birthday and Christmas and I'm like, okay, that's excessive. Everything in Christmas like little too much, but yeah, probably not every day. Yeah. But it is hard when you have one because they don't have siblings to entertain them. Like, yeah, they entertain themselves with their toys and like the things they have and both of our kids are such toy kids that Ray always, he constantly has a toy in his hand.

Jackson too. And I never was a toy kid. No, me either. Like I had Barbies but I didn't have anything else, you know, like I had all like their shoes and their clothes and you know, the accessories and stuff like that and I was totally into Barbies. Jackson will be like, I'm totally into, you know, whatever, but and it like changes every three days after you bought all the toys, you know, they're totally into something else.

But yeah, it's funny because anytime we put stuff like in a black trash bag and say that we're taking it off to Goodwill or whatever, Jackson's like, well, my dad sometimes lets me go and shop at Goodwill. So I'll just find it again and buy it again. It's like, no, that's not the point, like we're not bringing it back home. It's leaving the house, but it is very effective parenting technique if you haven't tried it before to threaten your kids with black trash bags and throwing away all of their stuff. Because they get very, he's like, that's so special to me.

That toy was so special to me and I'm like, you never played with it. It was for two days. But now it's not special anymore. But that toy had like no scratches on it. Like you literally looked at it maybe for two days. And then you were on to the next thing. In other news, I want to talk about the Ellen DeGeneres stuff because are you into this? I'm so into it.

Okay. Well, tell me, I feel like I have a strong opinion about this, so maybe I shouldn't. But Ellen has always had this reputation for like someone who always brings joy. No one's ever had a bad word to say about her. And I feel like because of recent comments that she's made, how she has a good relationship with certain people who believe and feel differently than she does. I feel like she's being unfairly attacked for comments that she's made. And now she's being turned into like a public example and like a whole group of people is

going after her. And I don't feel like it's deserved. Okay. So just to give you guys a little update, if you haven't been following any of the Ellen DeGeneres stuff, there was a really great Yahoo article and it's titled, Can Ellen DeGeneres Save Her Brand and Mid-Toxic Workplace Alligations and Experts Way In. So just a little synopsis. Basically PR Nightmare.

She had been accused of creating a toxic workplace and then took responsibility following some reports of misconduct by senior staffers and then new reports tie her more directly to what a former producer described as a culture of fear. And basically this expert just said that Ellen has been damaged, her brand has lost its luster and will never be the same, if more allegations arise or more celebrities come forward she could be totally, culturally canceled. And I do agree with you Carly to an extent that this cancel culture is out of control and I think that we've all made mistakes and we've all done things that we're not proud

of and we have all participated in things that we look back on probably now being more aware like why would I have ever done that or said that or whatever, you know like whatever, however that applies to your life. But I will say that probably the majority of us have had some type of encounter with toxic work environments and I don't think this is far-fetched. I think that with the status that she has, with the amount of people that are working for her and are her go boys or go girls, you know, to do whatever she says, it's very easy to have this public persona of I'm this nice person and I have this fun lighthearted show

when you don't know what's really going on behind the scenes and anybody who has not been in the TV world might not necessarily be able to understand all the intricate parts that it takes and the people that it takes to pull off a show especially to the degree of what type of show she has. There's all different levels of employees probably under her, people who literally only fetch her coffee, you know, so I don't know, I think it was very telling that she came out and accepted responsibility initially because to me that says that that validates you know what people are saying and I think that with the cancel culture, I think people

are becoming more comfortable with telling, you know, things that they've gone through. Will I say that people could be saying this that have jealousy issues or maybe just don't get along with her for whatever reason and anybody can say whatever, you know, and it has to be verified but I do think that there's been enough people that have said enough things that there could be some validity to this story. Yeah, absolutely, I mean I totally agree that like when like it's very easy to have an outward persona and like you don't know what goes on behind closed doors or off camera or whatever, I've worked in several toxic work environments where like no one, none of like the outside

world would like believe the things that I've encountered but they're true, you know, we've all seen that, I definitely agree with that. It is just a little like why now for Ellen, like why is Ellen now this new? I think that people were more afraid to talk about it before, you know, I think with racism becoming a topic that should have been discussed way long ago, with it becoming more prevalent in the news and for people to be more comfortable to be talking about it, she was accused of harassment, intimidation, all of those things. I think that when one person speaks out, it might make it easier for the next person to

speak out just like victims of abuse, you know, sexual abuse, whatever that may be. I'm not saying that I know if this is true or if it's not, I'm just stating my opinion that I think that when someone's being accused of things like this, I don't think it's far fetched because I think that we've seen enough people in the media, celebrities, people that we think just like we were talking about Bill Cosby, like a household name, someone that you think is, you know, just like this grandpa on TV that has this persona and that's really not who they are. Which obviously with like the, like any time there's sexual allegations, like we said last

week, I'm always prone to believe them because while I do think there are people who have obviously been falsely accused with sexual allegations, I'm often prone to believe that most of the time it's true because it's a very bold move to accuse someone of something like that and it not be true. I just hope- And the shame that a victim would have to carry to acknowledge that that has happened to them, you know, so. But with this Ellen stuff, because it's different topics that they're talking about, I almost

hope that they are true because if they're not, like how incredibly heartbreaking and sad that this is how her career and her reputation is going down when she has built something that up until recently everyone, whether they had any sort of issues with the way she lived her personal life or the things that she stood for the same thing she believed in, she brought joy to like a mass amount of people who believed in different, believed different things and believed different ways and I, those are the people that I love the most, people who stand for something very specific and they can get people who believe differently than them to find joy in what they're doing publicly.

And so it's sad for me to see Ellen go down like this when, you know, I've seen so many people who are against homosexuality that love her and that like I love that about her. And so I just, I hope, I almost hope that they are true because this would be so heartbreaking if they're not. Well, and I mean, I will give it to her. I think she's a very entertaining person. I think she has a charm about her that is just unmatched in the industry that she's in and I think that she has a great show is really a light when you watch her.

But if these things are true, then I feel like, you know, the mask comes off and I think that that has been the thing with this cancel culture. People are getting sick of people with power being able to wear this mask and have this facade that they're, you know, one thing when they're really something totally opposite. And I've, I've experienced things firsthand that I'm like, okay, this to me is not a farfetched story. Right. You know, right.

So yeah, and I can see that. And I do, I mean, one thing I do appreciate about 2020 is now it seems as though there's a level of accountability for people with power that wasn't there before now. Speaking of a level of accountability with people with power. I don't care what political affiliation. I truly do not care, but I did want to cover Bill Clinton and the fact that the media has literally just skirted around any allegations when it comes to the Clintons. And I just don't understand why you can report on everything else.

But when it comes to them for whatever reason, they hold great power. It's just not reported on. Do you think that's weird? Yeah. I obviously think that that's weird. Now, I shouldn't say that's obvious because there's a whole hell of a lot of people that seem to think that it's not weird, but the Clintons are in the inner circle and like they can't be touched and they can be accused of anything and everything and you're not going

to find it on mainstream media. You're just not. It's going to be skirted. It's going to be put under the rug or hidden. If it's out there, you know, that's just their part of that powerful inner circle, which is like the stuff we were talking about last week with the Wayfair and all of that, how there's things that are protected, like people hide things, skirt things under the rug all the time.

If you have enough power, like you have no, like, I have no clue how dark the secrets go and who all is involved and how dark things really are. The level of intertwining, like when you start reading stuff and again, when you read stuff, it doesn't mean it's true, but I'm just saying like when you start really putting a web together, it's really scary, the amount of people with power who are connected and have access to the things that they have access to. It's literally mind-blowing to me and I think that you lose all credibility and this is in regards to Bill and the Epstein files.

When you say that he has been accused of going to Epstein Island with two underage girls, right? You say that you've never been, but flight logs show different. The credibility completely goes out the window for me and it completely seems like you're hiding something when you would lie about traveling to somewhere that has been proven to be a lie. Yeah. We don't have to answer for that.

No. Yeah. We won't hear anything about that. We won't hear about that. We won't be being reported, that's when you know things are fishy and that's why I get so confused nowadays why people aren't questioning that. They're just getting behind it. I just want to be like, Bill, are you okay?

Right. Are you well? Right. What's going on? Did something happen to you? Did something happen to you? Are you alive? Right.

Can you speak? Exactly. Because I think we need you to speak for yourself. Right. But maybe we don't need him to speak for himself. Maybe through all of this, Galeen Maxwell uncoverings, maybe things will be completely uncovered to where we won't even need him to say anything. Or just uncovered enough to where people can draw their own conclusions.

Their own conclusions. Yeah. Which I mean, I'm just like, oh my God. Speaking of sadness, Regis Philman passing away. You know, it's heartbreaking. Literally, who wants to be a millionaire? Did you play that for your whole life? I played it like as I watched it.

Me too. But I never won more than like $200. Oh, I was going to be a millionaire. Of course you were. Yes, I was. And I wanted to go on who wants to be a millionaire so bad and I'll never forget when Will and I moved in with my nanny after my papa passed away, there used to be an app that you could play like who wants to be a millionaire and Will and I would sit and play who wants to

be a millionaire with nanny at night and she would always use me as her lifeline and it's like that is just so tragic and I felt like he was so charming and just like the sweetest man and so many people in the industry have such nice things to say about him and just you know, salt of the earth, a supporter, a contributor and Gale and I were just devastated about this. Yeah, it is. It's like the end of an era for sure. For sure.

And I'm like, oh my God, like, he was my life for so long. He like forgot that he was getting older. I know. As we were getting older. We were just busy playing who wants to be a millionaire trying to win millions that we were never going to get sitting at home on our couch. We can eat today 55 forever. For sure.

So can you tell me moving on now, this is also kind of sad but also kind of disturbing Britney Spears dad coming out saying that the free Britney hashtag and what do you want to call it? Like a following movement, whatever is a conspiracy. Okay, give me a quick, like, like, run out of Britney Spears seen it but I've not paid attention to it. Okay, so with her conservatorship and how her dad has control basically of all of her finances and whatever, he now comes out and says that it's a conspiracy.

And I'm like, no dog, like, I think it's not. Has she said anything? Well, yeah, she she says a lot of things like on her social media, like, I think one of y'all sent us messages or maybe a lot of y'all did send us messages about a follower saying if you need help like wear a yellow shirt like in your next video or your next post or whatever. And then she did in her next post and then like, notated that she was wearing she was like I'm wearing my yellow shirt.

So I'm like, okay, you know what, y'all, I might be a wackaboo like I might be into conspiracies and I might think all of these things are real. But and I'm not saying that Britney doesn't have things that need to be addressed and doesn't need help and whatever, but somebody who has made the amount of money that she's made and been able to hold like a consistent job up until I think 2018. I just don't see how you deem that she should be under this conservatorship when she's not getting the medical help that she needs, which is what it should be for. But she can't control her finances and she has like a very like minuscule allowance.

It's like $1,000 a week or something. It's like it's like tiny and she makes reported like billions on her fragrance line and like I've contributed to that because I have had her fragrance. They are pretty great. They're pretty great. So her dad's denying that that's even a thing. Yeah. He's saying it's a conspiracy like free Britney is a conspiracy.

Did she say anything to what her dad said? No, not that I know of yet. And if she did, y'all need to correct me and tell me if she did, but I don't think I don't think so. She's probably not allowed to. No, I think that and and I swear like when I watch her videos, I feel heartbroken for her because I'm like, okay, she needs help in ways that he's not helping her like by taking her money and her finances, controlling all of that, good and great.

But I don't think that's the help that she needs. Like I think that she and Kail and I discuss this briefly too because, you know, Kail started being followed at 16 or 17 from 16 and pregnant. And when you are followed to that capacity, that young and you have that many adults in the industry kind of guiding you and telling you what to do, whether it be in your best interest or not in your best interest, but whatever interest that that person is trying to to whatever the agenda is they're trying to press. There's probably a lot of mental things that would go on over time.

Those are such growing years of your life that I'm like, you know, maybe there's like a mental stunting that right. Well that's when you learn how to be independent. Right. I'd say from the age of like 17 to 25, which is a pretty big like that's eight years, but 17, at least that's what it was for me, 17 to 25 is when you learn like how to do all of like the independent adult things. Right.

And I can imagine that if fame is your life and she was so incredibly famous, right. And like everyone is controlled that you're just told where to go when and what to do at what time. And I mean, I think that with every, you know, conspiracy or theory, whatever you want to call it that comes out, I think there are some far fetched things that are always like included in it. Like every song that she's written, it's like toxic, you know, goes back to messages, subliminal messages that she's trying to send.

I don't necessarily know that I agree with that, but I do think that there's something fishy with her dad. I think there's something fishy with her doctor. I think there's definitely a reason that her mom's trying to be a more involved player in all of this and to gain a little bit more control so that Brittany can ultimately have a little bit more control. I think that her dad sees dollar signs and he's like, you know what, I'm going to do what I can to protect this because if I don't, then she's going to blow through it all.

Right. And I won't have access to it. Right. But really like, were you out singing toxic in Vegas? Like no, you weren't. Right. Are you entitled to that? Like no, you aren't.

No. And like, it's not your decision to tell her how to handle her success. Like we've seen so many people have mass success and then totally lose it. Totally. But also when you're trying to help someone you love, if you're genuinely trying to help them, the goal would be to get her independent. Like you would want her living like a normal healthy adult, not, well, we'll just take control of everything so you don't have to worry about it.

Right. It's like, what is that teaching her? Like in a long, long term. Okay. Moving on, I want to talk about this screenshot that Kale had sent me. It's actually pretty disturbing and this is one reason why I would be advocating for schools to open for the sake of the children who actually need the services because there are a lot of children that go to school that need the food services that the school provide or the

counseling that the school provides. This statistic was unreal. The Washington DC Child and Family Services Agency recorded a 62% decrease in child abuse reporting calls between mid-March and April 2020 compared to the same time period in 2019. That saw more severe presentation of child abuse cases in emergency rooms. That's nauseating. I mean, I would say when you get your child to school age, the majority of their time

is spent from kindergarten to through college, you know, with an educator, more than you. But eight hours a day or seven hours a day, whatever it is, the amount of children that deal with things like that within their home, we haven't experienced that. But I do know it's out there and I know that it happens. Kids going to bed hungry, sexual abuse, just maybe beatings, none of it can be reported because they don't have a teacher that they can either vent to or a counselor that they can vent to and tell what's going on. So it's kind of just out of sight, out of mind.

Right. Or just a teacher who like will notice like odd bruising or, you know, odd behavior or whatever. But you think about parents who physically abuse their children. I would venture to say that the majority of them do it because they have like a short fuse and a short temper. Well, now these kids are home with them all the time. Someone who already has zero patients for their children and hauls off and hits them

when they get impatient. Now their children are bugging them constantly. Like I can't, I mean, the spike is probably astronomical with how many kids are being physically abused now and it was already a huge problem. Right. I know. So for me, I know that it sounds contradicting, but I'm like, I don't want school open. But also for the children who deal with that kind of thing inside of their home, it breaks

my heart to know that if schools close, then they'll be facing that again. And what does that look like for a child who does deal with that on a daily basis? Right. You know, that they might be going to bed hungry or they might be being molested or they might be being physically abused because like you said, their parent has a short fuse or whatever it may be. And I do think that people are under such great amounts of stress right now that there's no telling what the numbers actually would be if there were accurate reportings.

Right. Well, Anne, like we say, we don't want kids to go to school right now. Like it's contradicting, but like we don't want kids to go to school right now because there's a pandemic. But ultimately, I think everyone's goal is to get back to normal life. Everyone wants kids to go to school, everyone wants kids to like go back to normalcy. And this is just one of the huge reasons why if people would just do what they're supposed to do, you know, don't prematurely open, don't prematurely expose your kids, like let's

get things under control as quickly as possible so that America can return to normal life. Because there's so many things that we're just training one set of problems for like 15 other enormous problems. Oh, I know. It's literally so sad. I laid thinking about it last night. I have not been sleeping good for the past two nights and I'll go on to that topic in just a minute.

But I laid thinking about just the children who are in situations like that, that I'm just like my heart truly breaks for them because you just don't. I mean, it could literally be your neighbor and like you don't even know. Right. And what can you do? You can't force your way into people's homes. You know? Yeah.

Like bully. Well, first of all, who am I going to bully? But like, you know what I mean? And most people aren't going to be like, oh, yeah, like I started hitting my kids because I'm stressed. You know, most people aren't going to come out and say that and most parents who habitually abuse their children aren't taking their children to the doctor regularly anyway. Right.

That's true too. Okay, so the other reason why I've been laying awake at night is I think I've already told you, but for coffee, combos listeners want to keep you guys in the loop. I have randomly been receiving no caller ID calls and it's been very strange because back when we went to the beach over the summer in early June, I received a really weird phone call from some girl named Alexis. And do I believe that that girl's name was Alexis? No.

Do I believe that that girl was put up to calling me? Yes. Do I believe she told me that she had found a phone in downtown Nashville on the side of the road? She told me it was an iPhone 11 Max Pro that had a Louis Vuitton case on it and it was locked, but the only number that she could retrieve off of it was mine, immediate red flag there because I'm like, if the phone is locked, how are you in the phone to get my number?

And like my number is the only one that shows up, right? So I tell her, I'm like, okay, well, common sense tells you if you're trying to find the owner of the phone, which you're not, but tells you there's an Apple store close by, obviously, you're very familiar with Apple products to know that it was let an iPhone 11 Max Pro. Why not take the phone and drop it off at the Apple store since you're so concerned about this person's phone and let them look up the serial number and get the Apple ID off of it and be able to contact the owner?

Like why are you calling me? Someone leaves me this long voicemail about how she was so happy that I was able to help find the owner and could she do something to repay me? She would give me anything that I wanted and Will was like, whoa, sister, like, first of all, not to be rude or anything, but if I found somebody's phone like laying on the ground, probably going to leave it there and keep on going about my business and I'm certainly not going to reward some rando for like helping me find an owner of a phone for a phone that I don't care about.

Very strange. So then hadn't received any weird calls then a week ago, I started, was it a week ago? Yeah. Because it been a week? Yeah, it was like about a week ago. I started getting no caller ID calls between one and two o'clock in the morning and when I answered them, it was loud breathing and then hang up, then got two voicemails, one of a person whispering, trying to say like saying my name and to like meet somewhere

and then hashtag something and like that's all you could make out of it. Then the other voicemail was like somebody like farting into a trumpet or something like that and then the next night will tells me that he gets a call from no caller ID. Sure enough, he does and he didn't answer it. The person didn't leave a voicemail, but then I'm minding my own business walking through my neighborhood the next afternoon and I look down at my phone and I'm not going to say the name of the person, but it's a person that I know, this number who comes up across my caller ID, have not talked to this person in a very long time and I'm like, well, I

guess I'll just answer it because I don't really have any reason to like dodge a call. So I go to answer it. This is a radic man on the phone and he's screaming at me and he's like, you, why is your number in my wife's phone a sweetheart? And I'm like, excuse me, and he said, you're that person. Have you been having a affair with my wife? You're that person that's been going to yoga with my wife. And I'm like, bro, like, first of all, I don't even know who you are.

Secondly, this number belongs to bleep third. I'm done with this conversation because I don't know who you are and like you're crazy as hell, obviously to be calling me and I'm getting off the phone. So I go to hang up. I start screaming at me and I'm like, okay. So then I tried to process all of this and I'm like, okay, if this man actually was trying to call to find out who sweetheart was. If he knew that I answered the phone the first time, if he was really trying to find out

who sweetheart was, wouldn't he have sent a text or like called back or whatever? So very strange, but yeah, now the police are involved and I have had to pull my phone records and I think that people don't realize that just because a phone call comes through as no caller ID like on your phone, that when you go back to your actual records, it always doesn't block from your phone records. So like what's showing up on your written phone report might be a number. Right. I'm firm if I have the number or not, but yeah, there's ways to track those things.

And I'm like a, what am I going to say, what do you call it when you're like a self-diagnosed or I give myself a title? Oh yeah. I'm an investigator. Yeah. I'm trying to say. With the iPhone thing. A self-proclaimed investigator.

Yes, that is me. Yeah. But the iPhone found in Nashville, you would not be able to open up a locked phone and only get your number. Right. There's no, you can call 911, but that's all. So that's a lie. Oh, and the phone was dead, but then they plugged it up and we're able to get my number off

of it. And I'm like, okay. Any normal person who finds it, if they're that concerned, cause this is like a nice iPhone, it's in a designer case, like they don't want it left on the ground. They would go turn it into the nearest business. That's what I say. Like I found this outside, like I don't know who it is and it's dead, like if someone comes back for it, but you don't like go through the trouble of plugging it in, like trying

to find a number. Oh, it's Lindsey Chrisley's number. Like let's call her. Yeah. So nobody's doing that. First of all, that's the least believable story. Secondly, it's through, I'm basically stupid when it comes to this kind of stuff. So I thought I was an investigator, but evidently like I'm not.

We do know that the calls came from an app. So we do know that. And I know what app it was. Well, there's like masking apps. Yes. You can use, you can call from your phone. As long as you have the number you're trying, you can plug in the number that you want it to show up on the other person's phone.

That's what this person did. Yeah. It's like called spoofing or something like, but this like third party has to have like your number, obviously, and then the number that they're wanting theirs to show up as well. And just for the record, I'm not that stupid that somebody would have my number and this other individual's number to be able to spoof me from that number. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm tired of dealing with your monkey shit.

So I'm just going to call the cops. Right. Yeah. So I did. I'm just like, I'm so sick of dealing with stupid people and I'm sure that other people have like randos calling them and doing like weird stuff, but I'm just like, I'm so past this. Like I'm almost 31 years old.

Like leave me alone. Yeah. Fine. Find a new hobby. Well, a girl whispering like meet me somewhere and hashtag something is very bizarre. It's very bizarre. That has never happened to me. So I don't think this happens to other people.

I'm trying to make myself feel better. No. That's not normal. But the last thing that we're going to cover, and this is completely switching gears is I am so invested in this bachelorette news. Have you heard it? No. Okay.

You know I haven't. Okay. So back when Claire, I think her last name is Crawley was confirmed as the bachelorette. I honestly was shocked, but then it was all delayed because of COVID and didn't know like when the season was going to take place, where it would take place. So then things finally like got up to speed. They ended up doing a quarantine, started the season in July, sometime in July, I think it was like mid July, they did a 14 day quarantine, tested everybody for COVID, whatever.

This was I think in Palm Springs. So then I think a lot of bachelor nation was kind of like, okay, why was she picked as the lead? She didn't have a great Instagram following, which would be indicative of maybe the amount of people that would want to watch her. And I think that the other girl, Tasia, was a better choice. And so, and Claire's older, but I think that a lot of it had to do with the fact of after season after season, I think it's cast younger people.

And I think people kind of got sick of seeing like these 22, 21 year old girls going on there, trying to find love when you're really just looking for a follow, you know, and it's like, you're not really trying to find love when you're 21, sorry, but like you're just not right. Even if you do, like that's a lot of big investment on their part, huge investment. Like if I had to do it over again, wouldn't change anything, but also probably wouldn't be looking for a husband at 20. Right.

You know, yeah. 19 in my situation. But yeah. But anyway, so then reality Steve starts reporting that Claire has found love with this athlete on the show after 12 days of filming, and now she's refusing to film. So then they supposedly bring in Tasia, which was the girl that was in the running for the show for the lead. And supposedly she's taking over clear spot and all of this will play out on the season,

which I'm like, okay, super interesting, invested, haven't watched the show in so long, but definitely watching it this season for the fact of seeing all this drama unfold, plus the fact it's going to be totally different because of COVID. But I'm just like, okay, well, they cast an older group of men because of Claire's age, and they cast specifically for Claire. Right. That's what I was wondering. So she's just like swooping in and she's their new like object of their desire.

Yeah. That's what I'm trying to figure out. So I'm like, okay, does that mean that like men that were eliminated by Claire are going to come back? Does that mean that they're going to recast the guys? Does that mean that people that they might have said like, no, you're too young to be on the show that they might do callbacks for them now that Tejas in the seat, like how do you go from like Claire and Tejas to me are totally different people and like, I just

don't see how it's like, okay, yeah, I signed up for Claire, but then like Tejas here and like Tejas stunning, like she is, she is a beautiful girl. And I'm just like, okay, well, how does that work out? Right. I feel like if I watch this season, I mean, her finding love. After 12 days and refusing to film, I love that storyline because I'm like a hopeless romantic. And I think that's really cute and cool.

Like, I love that. Like she found him not interested in the show anymore, like found it by I'm out. But I do think it would be weird if they just like send in this other beautiful woman and all these guys are like, oh yeah, now we're chasing after her and like, we're totally cool with it. And it's like, well, it seems odd and also they're like two different age rangers as well. Right.

And like, well, what, what are you looking for? I mean, what you might have found in Claire might not be the same things that you're going to find in Tejas. And Tejas might not even want to look at you, you know, like, you might totally be a Claire type, but not a Tejas type. So I'm just like, okay, is Tejas going to get the shaft? Like she's got to take these men that she doesn't want, like, right? Or was she like, it's cool, like I'm into older men and so they just like keep them.

Or does she have to become into older men to like take the lead? Like I just, I don't understand and I just think it's going to play out and be so interesting, but I totally hope that they cast some like young hot guys for her. Yeah. Please bring them in. Yeah. And I also, I understand you're a hopeless romantic, but knowing somebody for 12 days, I could know somebody for 12 months and I still would be like, hmm, you're questionable.

See I would know someone for 12 days and be head over heels in love and then 12 months later be like, I'm the question of the world with this brand. Yeah. See, I'm so skeptical of everybody. But like for TV's sake, because it's not something that's happened before, it is kind of like, oh, like finally she's found her guy after like less than two weeks and like she's not even interested in seeing the show out and like having her face out there for a whole season.

But she's been on Bachelor Juan Pablo season. She was on Bachelor in Paradise two seasons. She was on Bachelor Winter Games. Now she's a lead. So I'm like, okay, it took you all of that time. You didn't find anybody in that, but then yet you're the lead and you find somebody in 12 days. Like I'm questioning it.

I hope you made the right choice because you really blew it if you didn't. And also I really want to know, are there going to be two engagements? Like is Neil Lane going to have to come off the pocket for like two rings? Is there going to be two breakups? Is there going to be like a complete shaft season? Like, I mean, obviously ABC execs are going to like make it work, but I'm just very invested in this. When you know, you know, maybe it took her all.

Maybe she was looking for this specific guy and she wasn't finding him and wasn't finding him. And then she found him and she's like, I'm so exhausted. I'm so uprooted. Yes. And then I've played all of these like scenarios in my mind. Right? So I'm like, okay, did they sleep together and then broke the rules and then it's like

she can't like backtrack from that. Like what exactly happened that she was just kind of like, I'm done. Or was it just truly, I found my person, I'm no longer interested in playing this game. I'm no longer interested because it's always made me wonder too. Like for other leads, somebody has to like be heavier on your heart than another person going into that final night. You know, it's like, you obviously have to have more feelings for one person over the other.

Right? I mean, I, any season that I have watched, I have always thought like in the beginning I understand it more, but once they start narrowing them down, I'm like, how can you be head over heels, deeply, deeply in love and unsure who you're going to propose to. I like can't imagine. I'm like, for that reason alone, yeah, I'm out. I'm out. Yeah.

Me too. I would never, which I honestly feel, I don't know this for sure, but I feel like that's a big reason why a lot of these couples end up not ever going through with the marriage is because there's so much in, like their whole relationship is built off insecurity. And there's so much insecurity. What if you just be thinking about the other person, like them with the other person talking about it constantly. They would get so annoyed with me.

They would love it so, so much, like, oh, do you remember like when you made this date? You loved her yesterday. Yeah. And now we're getting married. It doesn't make sense. Right. It doesn't, it doesn't add up. But then I'm like, okay, well, maybe she just wasn't willing to play along with the

storylines anymore. Right. You know, maybe she was just like, okay, I can't fake this. Right. And I don't want to do this. And maybe other people are more willing to like go along with it because they know ultimately at the end, yes, somebody's going to get hurt, but how do we know for sure that everybody's not playing along?

Right. And then she wanted to see it, like she had enough strong feelings for him that she wanted to see it play out in more of a real world type scenario, going through the bachelorette process. I mean, in fairness, it was just Palm Springs, like she wasn't going to like all these like exotic countries flinging herself off of cliffs with this dude, you know, it's like, oh my gosh. And then that always makes me wonder too, like in courtships, like even in real relationships,

you know, you do, and I think Will and I experienced this a little bit and I don't know if you and Ethan did or not, but it's like we did all of these like fun, exciting dates or whatever. And then it's like, you settle into marriage and it's like time just kind of gets away from you and you get busy in your real life. And it's like, man, I wish it was like that dating time again, do you remember? Yeah. Like when we used to go to circuits, dude. Right.

Well, we reconnected after seven years of like not speaking at all. And so the first two years was like, we went on so many trips, we did so many fun dates, we ate at all of these new places, like it was like a two year long adventure. Now we're married, you know, we're moving into a house, we've settled into our jobs, we have Ray, like COVID-19 happened, so we can't go anywhere or do anything, but every once in a while I'll come home and I'm like, I need some romance, like we need to do something out of the ordinary. I don't know what it is.

I need something romantic. And like, I'm not talking about you going a quick trip to get me a drink. No, but you will do that later. Please also do that. Right. You're going to do that. Oh my gosh. Well, if you guys feel us, then let us know, obviously, yet again, since we have been back

podcasting every single week, we have gone over the hour episode. So I'm like, okay, does this mean that we need to extend it to just be like, okay, we need to do hour and a half episodes, because obviously we have a lot of things to say. Yeah, I'm not done. I'm not done yet. All right, guys, so that's all we have time for today. I'm not sure if Kale will be back next week or the following week, kind of playing it by ear, but just please keep praying for her good vibes.

I'm just so excited for her. She is so over the moon about her little boy and he is just not going to say what he looks like, but he is just absolutely precious and I already love him so much. So if you guys have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast on Instagram, make sure you follow us over there for all updates on anything podcast related and if you have not subscribed to us, you can do that by searching the purple podcast app on your iPhone, type in coffee combos, click subscribe, click the fifth star and leave us a written review. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.