Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 12: Kail's Ex-Husband Javi Stops by for Teen Mom News & Gossip

Episode Date: January 25, 2018

This week Kail's ex-husband Javi stops by! They discuss the news about a meth lab & current Teen Mom 2 breakup news. Lindsie puts Kail and Javi in the hot seat about co-parenting, if they see themselves being better friends in the future, if they think they'll get back together, and if they will finish their book that they were co-writing. Lindsie discusses how leaving the past in the past is the key to success. They talk about what can be expected this season on Teen Mom 2 and whether TV affected their relationship. Today's show is brought to you by HelloFresh, for $30 off your first week deliveries go to hellofresh.com and use code COFFEECONVOS30. Try their favorite snack at fistuq.com/coffee. For 25% off your order at RxBar.com/convos and use code CONVOS. And to try the awesome shoe service for your kids, go to EasyKicks.com/joinnow and use code EZLISTEN for $5 off your order!  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is brought to you by RXBarr. For 25% off your first order, visit RXBarr.com.com slash combos and enter promo code combos during checkout. It's also brought to you by HelloFresh. For $30 off your first week of HelloFresh, visit HelloFresh.com and enter Coffee Combos 30. Hey guys, you're with Kail and Lindsay on Coffee Combos, and we have a really special guest with us today, and it is Hobby. That's my introduction? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. This is a coffee combos podcast. This isn't Timmy.

Hi, hobby. Hey, Lindsay, long time. No talk. I know. I know. You're doing well. Thanks for having me. I'm excited.

So I'm excited to join you guys. We're excited. We're excited to ask you a bunch of questions. Yeah, I'm real thrilled about asking lots of questions because we know some hot news drop today. Oh, geez. Yeah. We're just going to get right into it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. I think we should just ask him about the news that we read online today. And that is you and Brianna broke up? Is it true? Yes or no? As of right now, it is. As of right now? As of right now.

You all are going to get back together already? I don't know what the future holds, but there's a lot that we have to discuss and talk about before we make any other decisions. Not as dramatic as we thought. It's not. There's no juiciness in that. I mean, it's juicy enough that my ex-wife is asking me about my current relationship. That's a little weird to me. don't you think? Oh, well, it's a podcast and that's what we're here for.

I mean, there's nothing juicy to spill, to be honest with you. Oh, well, that's good. Did you hear about, Lindsay, did you see Kiefer? Janelle's ex-boyfriend got caught up in the meth lab? Oh my gosh. So I saw like tons of articles about that and I was like, what is this? I didn't even know Kiefer still existed. Yeah, I think he like dropped off the face of the earth and now he's back. Yeah, and it's so weird. So apparently the police discovered like a meth lab from what I read that it was in a basement apartment.

And that he's facing felony charges. And he was, I guess it was like a $50,000 bond and he couldn't post bond. So he's apparently still in jail. And at the time of the. Is that really surprising for you? No. It's just funny. I mean, it's sad, but it's also funny.

But, um, Lindsay, do you have an arrest? Oh, go ahead. He also had, he also had an arrest warrant, like in another state, like in New Jersey. So he had a warrant out for his arrest before he got arrested for this. Did you ever meet Kiefer? No, I never met him. You never met him? You met him?

I don't remember if I met him or not. I don't know. I don't remember either. That was such a long time ago. I don't know if I was around when he was around. I think you were. I was? Probably.

Yeah. because you entered what, season three? Back in 2011. I don't know what that was. I don't know. Either way. I feel like Havi would have definitely been around. Havie would have been best friends with Kiefer.

Why would you think I would be, we have nothing in common whatsoever? I don't know if that was a low-bo-to-me-out-me-out-you-guess-kitting. What? If you guys think that Havi and Kiefer should have a podcast, let us know. Oh, my gosh. Could you imagine the podcast, the ratings they would get? What would we even talk?

We have nothing to talk about. But that's the funny thing is that y'all would have no same opinions. And they would have nothing in common. Well, that's kind of like us. We don't have much in common either. And I don't have anything in common, but we feed off each other because she's. So can I ask how you guys got this podcast going? No, this is not.

I'm going to be your manager and I'll help you with that after this. But no, we're not going to discuss this on my podcast. This is coffee combos, not business combos. How many texts? Today and was like, what are you doing? I said, I'm recording my podcast. He said, okay, let me be a guest. I said, all right, be here at 8.30.

I was just looking out for you guys, Linz. He thought we needed ratings, but we don't. We have those on our own. I haven't listened to any of your coffee combos yet, but I thought I could spice it up a little bit and join you guys. Well, I'm glad because now I get to ask you all the hot topic questions right here on my podcast. Ask away. I saw you guys are what, 24?

fifth on iTunes? We've been up to the top 10 before. So have you been stalking us, Hobby? You've been stalking us. You haven't been listening to be talking us. I just know that you're about to be top five, so you're welcome. You know, I don't need a thank you. Just cut me a check here for soon.

For sure. For sure. Are you going by Hobby or Jose? Jose. Let's never say that my biological name again. Let's just stick with Hobby. Yes. Oh my God.

Stick with Hoff. No. But, you know, actually, not that you talk about names, a lot of people, have started calling me poppy so whichever one you want you were so cheesy that was so corny that was so corny oh man so let's talk yeah um other questions so what do you have lindsay kill what so is do you call him jose because that's like his government oh i for sure call him jose he's in my phone as jose that's his government that's his first name yeah like his government given name like yeah it's like it's his government. Okay, so it's going to be Jose from like this point forward until further notice.

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Oh, geez. Okay, so co-parenting-wise right now, how are you guys doing? Co-parenting is strictly me bitching at Javi at all times about Lincoln's naps and brushing his teeth on time and at the right times. And I just bitch at him all the time. And I think she fails to realize I work the majority of the day. So when I pick him up from school, no, listen, let me finish. So when I pick him up from school and then. then I turn over to my mom to take care of him and she obviously raises him differently than I do.

So when I get home, it's a transition from, okay, my mom watching you to you're going to follow my rules. And I don't know why Kail thinks I don't brush his teeth. We have a routine every night, which we do. Oh, night? Oh, just that night? Just not in the morning? And when he goes to school, we brush his teeth when he wakes up. No.

So I don't know where you get. Lindsay, as like a mom of a boy, you know, and just as a mom in general, you know when your kid's not brushing his or her teeth. You just know. Oh, I'll be knowing. Like, I will know. Like, we talked about this earlier today on our other podcast. Like, she even said her son will literally tell her that her dad, that his dad took him out of the house without brushing his teeth. So it's like a thing.

Okay, but Lincoln does not say that because he does. But he does. No, he does. Well, he's a liar. And he also said, my son is not a liar. He got that from you. He got that from you. You have a really bad habit of pointing the finger about things that you've done.

So. Okay. So. So we both have established that you guys think each other are liars. Yes, they need to also have better hygiene with their kids' teeth. Yeah, that's the truth. Like, Javi, teeth are really important. Teeth are very important.

That's why, you know, I got, I'm fixing my teeth now, and I'm going to make sure his teeth are good, too. Anyways, next question. If they start looking like, if your teeth start looking like somebody rubbed butter on them, there's got to be a fix. Right. Let Javi know. went too far if it's got to that stage.

No, Kail is saying that you don't make Lincoln brush his teeth. So is it a fact or? That is not a fact. It's a hundred percent a fact. What are you talking about? You also don't make him nap. No.

Nap I will agree with you. That is a fact. And are you going to try to help him nap? Because he naps every single day, one to three. And for some reason, when you always have him, he doesn't nap. And then he falls a. sleep at five or six.

No. That's a problem. For the million times, I'm not, this is not a jab, but you don't work. So you're here with him. Okay, I don't work,

but I have lots of businesses and adventures. It's not a jab. It's just reality. You get to work. I don't have, no, don't say I don't work. I don't work a nine to five out of the house.

There you go. You work from home, so you have the luxury of, okay, this is your schedule. Okay, but do you or do you not pick him up at 12 o'clock. Yes. So when you get home, he should be napping,

you should be telling your mom to put him down for a nap out one to three, which I do, but he, my mom, like I said, So I'm going to go on Javvy's defense on this one because Will also does not make Jackson nap on the weekends. It must be a dad thing. It's a dad thing. Like they think it's not required. So it's just like, you know, whatever. But to me, it was kind of like a fight that I just let go because at the end of the day,

if he's willing to watch him during that time and if he starts acting like Buck Wild, then that's on him. That doesn't get it to become on me because I told him to put him down for a nap. If he chooses not to and he wants to deal with it, that's on him. So at what age is nap not required? I mean, when they go to kindergarten, they probably can't nap anymore. Or does Jackson go to kindergarten? No, he doesn't go to kindergarten.

He's still in preschool. So once they go to kindergarten for a full day, there's no naps because by time you get home at three, you probably have stuff you have to do. Right, okay. So I would say that's probably the appropriate age. So recently, Kail and I got to try a new food delivery service called Hello Fresh, and I really enjoyed it. So Hello Fresh is a meal kit delivery service that shops, plans, delivers all of your favorite step-by-step recipes, and they have pre-measured ingredients so you can just cook, eat, and enjoy a meal.

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Okay, back to the show. What's your next juicy question, Lindsay? My next juicy question would be, do you guys foresee yourself being better friends or ever possibly getting back together? better friends are getting back together um go ahead take it away have no you can take it away you can start go ahead um hmm interesting that neither of y'all wanted that question no i mean i just think there's a lot of history between us that we either one of us will ever let go and even if we were to try it again and in the future it wouldn't work just because i know the type of person i am and the type of person she is and we we argue it just wouldn't happen but sometimes people argue out of like passion like

if you have two people hobby argues out of passion how do you feel about so you think hobby's like a habitual arguer hobby is a habitual arguer and never let her goer right that's why i know it's not it wouldn't be healthy if we got back together but hobby do you think sometimes you shouldn't argue when you'd do argue. Hobby for sure needs to choose his battles. I think I'm a reactive person. Before I don't think it through, I just react, and then I sit back and think about it.

And then... What did you tell me the other day? I don't know. I speak a lot of facts, so I don't know. Oh, that's right. You said Kail's always right? I do not. You definitely said that, and you said that you don't listen to me, so...

That I don't. I never listen to you. And nine times out of ten, I'm probably right. But no, I don't, I don't, we won't get back together. He's saying that in case Brianna's listening. Oh, my, this is, this is, my new relationship should not be mixed in with a past relationship. That's just trouble. Whatever, whatever.

And I'm not going to do that to either one of you. Neither one of you deserve that. Oh, but you did it before. And I'm trying to learn from my mistakes and not repeat those mistakes. So moving forward, I'm not going to mix that. Okay. Well, that's why I brought you on the podcast. You could say it yourself.

so I didn't have to. Say what? Just anything. Whatever you wanted to say, whatever you wanted to clarify or talk about what's your next question? Anything.

It's an open book. Yeah, the same way. I'm an open book. I mean, ask away. I'm an open book. How do you feel about that question? You didn't answer a question? I mean, I could have said it better.

I don't think we could get back together. I do have a good question. Okay, go ahead. Gosh, Lindsay. Rapid fire. I know. Will you guys ever finish? He said, she said. So he said she said is a book for those of you who don't know that Javi and I were writing.

He wrote a book about our relationship and getting married and then getting divorced. But oddly enough, my name was on every single page in the book. And I guess my biggest problem with that was that if you wanted to write a book, you know, that you should write it about you and about your life. and maybe what you learn from the divorce, but not necessarily mentioned my name on every single book. So I started writing an answer to it and just based on all like the, I think, animosity and like hostility I have towards you through the divorce and stuff, I didn't have anything positive to say. And so I finished it, but I texted Javi and I said, I don't want to publish this because it's not nice. I don't want my son to read it. I don't want anyone else to read it. And I just don't want.

think that we should move forward. But I think now that you're single, because that was also a huge part of it, we couldn't go on tour together when you were in a relationship. I think that we could finish it in the right way, maybe a co-parenting version, but not the book that we have already written. I think for me, and I mean, we're all kind of like in the same age range as you get older, you don't want to like reveal as much personal information for everybody to be able to have access to. And I think sometimes just let things like die and let them rest. And there's no need to like regurgitate information that you both already know. And there's no need for the public to know. The nasty details of our divorce. I agree. And that's when we were getting divorced, that's why I

kept my mouth shut for so long and I kind of let just Javi react the way that he reacted and I learned once already with Joe that I don't need to open my mouth to everything and even when him and his friends said things about me I just kept my mouth shut and and let it kind of die out on its own and speaking on that point I think for me where I'm at with that is I think in order for me and kale to have a healthy relationship we need to stop mixing and talking about our relationship It's just it is what it is. It's over with. We all moved on. And we need to strictly, if we're going to have business deals in the future, just not have it be about our relationship. Because those times have come and gone and we're at a place where I don't think we need to be talking about it. It just brings up negative emotions and hurt and anger that I think we're better off not talking about it. Yeah, I think that sometimes when bad things happen, it's like you grow from those things, you learn from.

from those things, you learn what you like, what you didn't like, and you just kind of can move forward in a positive direction and leave all of that negativity behind you. And that's kind of how Kail and I were talking about. That's how I started my new year that, you know, I kind of left 2017 and 2017 and moved forward. And I felt like a huge burden lifted off of me by having that mindset. And I think if you just put, you know, the fact that you guys do care about, each other, you are her son's father, she is your son's mother, and you guys establish some type of friendship that can work to help you co-parent the best way possible, then that's all you can really ask for. And I mean, how much better could it be if you had a relationship to where

you could be friends, but co-parent, and you can get there. It just takes a lot of time. And I think a lot of time when there's a lot of hurt there, it takes a lot of time to get past all of that. I mean, it always sounds good to say that. But honestly, like, we always say we're going to keep everything separate. And somehow no matter what happens, no matter who's around, no matter what relationships and start and finish and whatever, like. And I think we have the weirdest relationship I've ever known in my life. Well, I think you have a harder time. I definitely don't have a hard time.

You do. and then you point the finger at me. I truly think, though, the situation is, this is just like an outsider looking in. So, I mean, I could be wrong. But I think that there's a lot of things that are kind of unfinished from an outside person looking in. A lot of things are kind of left unfinished or not necessarily unfinished, but there's not been like an exact end to it. It's like volatile. It just like keeps going.

in a circle and I think that it's just like the combination of your personalities, the combination of the relationship ending the way that it ended and it's just so hard to kind of get to that point because there's a lot of negativity surrounding it. Honestly, if I think we didn't have this relationship on TV, it wouldn't have went the way that it did. I think that had a huge, it played a huge factor in it. Yeah. Because like other people get involved and I'm not just saying like,

the media and like outsiders, I'm saying, like, friends and then like money and egos and reputation is, it gets taken a step further. So I think that has a lot to do with it too. What do you feel about that, Hobby? Do you feel the same way? I definitely do. I mean, it's kind of a positive and negative, a negative in a way there. I was able to see the way I reacted and how it affected our co-parenting and how. how it embarrassed me and how I made myself look. And, you know, I've apologized to K.O. for the way I acted and reacted without thinking of the repercussions.

So I think if it wasn't on TV, we could have, I wouldn't have, I don't know if it would have been different to me. I really don't know. I can't speak on what ifs, but I do regret how I handled the situation when I got home. Well, I'm not even just talking about that, but, I mean, there's been recent things too. A lot of that is growing. though. A lot of it's just like growing up. Yeah. And that's what I always say. Like Harvey, but Jave and I are grown. I feel like we're 25 years old. And so some of the things

shouldn't have happened the way they did where like for me and Joe, I can say that we were 17, 18, 19 years old when everything was happening and how we reacted in social media and this that and that and filming every single thing. You know, we were young. But like with Javier kind of had higher expectations in how he handled the situation. And even still up until recently, I think that the way that he's handled things is like, I don't know if it's part of who he is or if it's that you need to grow up. Well, part of it too is a lot of stuff is like emotional. A lot of people are emotional reactors.

And I think like I sometimes saw myself being emotional reactive to things. and I'm sure you do and, you know, Javi does. A lot of times certain things that would bother him might not necessarily bother you as much and, like, vice versa. But also, you can't compare any, I always tell people, you can never compare any relationship to another relationship because there is no same relationship. Like you weren't married to Joe. So that adds a whole other dynamic to the situation with Hobby. Yeah, I mean, I could agree with that. Yeah, Lindsay, you speak facts.

were you when we were struggling to stay together? I mean, you could have helped us out. I know, but you know what? Apparently, reality TV just did you all in. Yeah. Apparently, thanks guys. And it will be left at he said she said. Yeah, he said she said that's all it will ever be. To the grave, yeah. So all this talk of drama is making me super hungry. So let's take another snack break. I feel like this episode should have been about our favorite foods and snacks. Anyway, the RX bar is a great snack that I carry with me during my hectic days. I found myself working such long days and yesterday just juggling everything I had going on. I like skipped a meal, but I've found that RX bars rescue me during these times.

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That's Rxbar.com slash combos with combs. code combos at checkout. Okay, what are we talking about next? So, let's get juicy. Ask away. Ask some juicy questions. Let's get this thing going. Okay.

Do you guys feel like when your kids are like doing sports and stuff that you can be in the same place and kind of like have fun with that or is it also volatile? I think the only time that it's volatile around being in the same place at the same time is when there's significant others. Okay. Why do you look at me when you say significant others? You literally flip a switch. Literally.

What do you mean? When there's a significant other and we go to a Lincoln soccer game or basketball or whatever, you're a completely different person. Like you won't even, like you barely talk to me, barely talk to people that we mutually had friends together. And like if I'm texting. Do I think so? I think so.

I think everybody in their mother knows. was that. A part of that, let me let me let me. No, no, no, no. I'm not done. So I literally, it is so, like, down to a T that, like, I'll know if I'm texting you if someone's over your shoulder or, like, right next to you so that you have to act a certain way to prove to that person. I'm not just, I'm not naming names. I'm just saying as a whole, that's how you are. And a part of why that is the way it is because I want to have respect for my significant other in a way where... In a way that you disrespect me. That's the problem.

Not that I'm disrespecting you, but I want to make sure the boundary line is there. But you're not doing it the right way because you'll do that only when they're there or only when. But to me, when it's just us, it's a completely different story. That's the problem. I mean, no lines are crossed. I didn't say that. That's not going to twist it, but. But you're definitely a different person.

Yeah. No, everyone sees it. I don't know if it's the right. Everyone sees it. Yeah, for sure. Like I said, when I'm single and in a relationship, I mean, it's just different. It's just. Okay, but that doesn't mean you lose respect for.

me because at the end of the day I'm Luan raising your son with you. Right, absolutely. And I have apologized. If I have lost respect for you in the past, I've apologized and whether you take it sincerely or not. I don't, but I just... Let's roll with the punches.

Okay, you guys. Come on. If you had it to do over, Javi, do you feel like, because I guess your first, what, like, serious relationship that you would say that would been, I guess, like your most public relationship since Kail would have been Brianna.

Do you think that you would have maybe had Brianna and Kail had a conversation before y'all entered that relationship or would you have done everything the exact same? I definitely would have done a lot of the things different. I think that a conversation, if they would have had a conversation prior, I always wanted and hoped that we could all be in the same room together. you know and I'm and I just think Brianna isn't what it portrays her to be on TV she's way different she's and I'm not going to go on here and preach about you know how good of a person she is but telling you're the mother of your child to suck her dick and that I'm a dumb bitch doesn't really

portray her as a good person okay we don't go that far because we don't have to go back and forth of what you said and what she said we don't you don't say you don't have to say that but I'm just saying you're not making a very good point regardless prior to me and her getting together I wish we all could you guys could have had a conversation and I do wish things could have been differently because I don't know what my future holds with Brianna right now but if we do get back together I would hope we can all get along at some point. It would never happen. We would never get along.

You allowed her to disrespect me to my face, also on camera, also in text messages. And then when I said what I had to say in a nice way, you defended her and not me. And we raised a son together. You don't raise a son with her. So basically you made it clear that she was allowed to tell me to suck her dick And I wasn't allowed to say anything about her or to her Again, you're only taking a small snippet of the conversation Because what I can do is only go on how she treats me

I can only form an opinion on how she is towards me as a person How she talks about me How you allow her to disrespect me I can only go on that I can't go on what she is portrayed on TV Because I've only said good things about her Prior to that Gave her credit when she left loose

Lewis gave her, you know, talked to her when I was getting cheated on by Chris. She was getting cheated on by Lewis. We had conversations. So I didn't have anything negative to say until she treated me that way. Well, I think that's what she's saying. I think that's what she's saying. I think that's what she's saying is. Right. But what you're saying is, if you guys get together, would be allowed to sit in the same room? No, absolutely not. I would never forget. Do you think that girl is going to apologize to me? What if she did? I was like, pigs will fly when that girl apologized to me. So they, okay, so if pigs flew, I'm saying, if she apologized. Well, I guess we don't know what the future holds, right? Right.

So I doubt it. But even then, I don't know, because... The whole point in me asking that question was that I think it would start off better for everybody involved if everybody is kind of on the same page. Because I think when that relationship started and correct me if I'm wrong, that all of y'all were kind of on the wrong page or different pages. Oh, for sure. or on different chapters. I mean, or maybe whole different books. I don't really know.

But it seemed like there was no consistency there as far as plans or, you know, knowing kind of what's going on and having that mutual respect there. And, you know, on both sides, establishing proper boundaries for not just your child, but for each other so that you can kind of be calm and communicate with each other. or respectful manner so that nobody in the situation is being disrespected. But I will say it would be hard for me if I had gone through with my divorce and he moved on, you know, before me and didn't introduce me or didn't, you know, I didn't have an opportunity to have a conversation with the other person. That would have been a bit hurtful.

Yeah, I mean, it's just that they, it started off as just denial, denial. denial, denial. And then we go to a reunion where you're asking me to dinner. And then, what, two days later, you guys make it official. So the whole thing started off on a bad note, a bad foot. And I agree. And like I said, I hope, I don't know what the future holds, but hopefully, and that doesn't happen again. And whether it's with Brianna or anyone, anyone in general, hopefully we can start off the right way and do it right, I guess. I mean, it's all a learning curve. Like, I haven't been through it.

So, you know, I can't really tell you. I can only tell you from an outsider looking in or the fact that I've had friends go through this. You know, other friends go through this that have told me things that I can speak on those things just from their experiences. And what has been successful for other people that I know that have gone through this, that if their respect's not there, then it's just going to be terrible, whatever way you look at it. I agree. So let's pause for a second and talk about these tasty nuts. My life is nuts, so it totally makes sense that these nuts are my favorite snack. They're fistic and they're super delicious. They're great. They're healthy and you can have them any time of the day. I'm obsessed with the season ones. There's roasted mixed nuts. They have almonds, cashews, hazelnuts, peanuts, coated peanuts and a ton of other ones too. Jackson loves them. So I think your kids would love them too. They're high in protein, dietary fiber, and low sugar.

You'll love them too, I promise. Just check them out for yourself at fistook.com slash coffee. That's f-I-S-T-U-Q-com. You'll love them, I promise. But, I mean, moving forward, like, is there any positive stuff you want to ask coffee? Yes. I would love to ask coffee, positive stuff. Let's see. What kind of questions can I come up with as far as positive things? I mean, are there things that you, go ahead. Javi, do you have any, like, projects coming up or anything that you would like people to know about? Or is everything a secret? Is everything a secret? That's what Javis could at.

You know what? Like I said, I've learned from the past, I'd like to be a little low key now and try not to put all my emotions out on social media. Wait, listen, why are you? Time out. Time out. Time out. You're not letting me talk. Literally, we went on marriage boot camp and you told them and they put the thing on the end.

And it was like, Harvey, well, doesn't want to date anybody else on reality TV. But then you did literally like two months later. So please tell me again that you want to be low-key. You know, that's not what I said. That is not what I said. Literally, you do nothing low-key. You do everything high-key. So try again.

Let's start over. Do you have any projects coming up? You know, I have a lot of things that run through my brain that I try. to put down on paper and their thoughts. And sometimes I come to Kail because I know she's very business savvy. Wow, weird. We think alike. We're here.

So I know she's very business savvy. And I know she's kind of done some of these things. So I try and run through her and I get her advice. And you don't listen anyway, but. But, you know, it's all about taking advantage of the moment. But you have a CrossFit competition coming up. I do. I have, you know, I lost it.

I think I lost it mentally for a little bit. I was going through some stuff. And I kind of lost my motivation and my desire to kind of work out. I wonder why that was. But yeah, I kind of lost it for a little bit, and I recently got it back, and I do have a competition coming up on the 27th that I'm really looking forward to. It's a team competition, really looking forward to it. I'm hoping that kind of reduces me and motivates me to get back in it.

And, you know, if I can do something in the athletic industry, I would love that. I'm very passionate about it. You should probably work on those snatches and overhead mobility. Trust me, just coach George has a coach. Shout out to Coach George for, you know, helping me out on these shoulders. He's working on it. Five years and counting. I love it.

I love, like, the whole getting in shape, eating right, doing all that kind of stuff. I love being a part of that, but it's so hard. Like, I'm naturally thin, so I don't, like, have a huge struggle with weight. And I don't, I can't relate to people, you know, who do have struggles with weight. But I do have fitness goals. you know, I want my body to look a certain way or, you know, like I want my butt to be bigger. I want my abs to be better, you know, whatever. And I mean, I can totally relate with kind of like getting off track and then having to get, you know, back on the train. So I hope that you

do well. I appreciate it. I mean, I think I'm ready. I've been working hard these past couple weeks and I'm looking forward to see how I do. We'll see you on game day, how I perform. And maybe you and Kail can see each other at the gym because Kail said that she's interested getting back in the gym and possibly eating healthier? I definitely will go back to the gym when I get back from leaving town, but I won't be going to the gym at the same time as Hobby for sure. Keough doesn't take my advice even when we were together. He literally swears that eating chicken and rice every single day for every meal is eating healthy.

That's what he thinks is eating healthy. That's his problem. No. See, that was when we were together. But, you know, my room. So what do you eat now? Do you eat broccoli? I eat green beans.

You eat green beans. He eats green beans. I eat green beans because I'm not. Are they, they're probably canned or frozen. They are with baby steps here. You know, I need some greens on me, so I do eat greenies. You're 25. Baby steps.

Baby steps. You know, I didn't grow up eating any vegetables. Lindsay, I'll have you know that this man did not eat broccoli a day in his life until he met me. That is, that's a fact. So we need to get him a nutritionist. I'll work on that when I work on the rest of your stuff with you. I'll help you. Sounds good.

But I actually worked, I got a nutritionist, and she's the one that told me what to eat. My roommate was actually a bodybuilder, so he's. so he knew a lot about food and nutrition and he kind of shared some knowledge. So that's why I don't just speak out of my ass. I know what I'm talking about. I mean, a lot of it is asking for sure. You know, you just got to be confident in what you're saying. People believe it.

That's the key. That's the problem. But I think, see, like you guys can talk about stuff and like be fun if you're not talking about all of like the past stuff. No, Harvey and I have a good time when we talk about present day things. But it's to this day that he doesn't listen to me. and every single time he'll come back to me and say, you're right. I should have listened.

So I think we should get you a nutritionist that helps you try new vegetables. Maybe we should start recording how many times Hobby says you are right. Oh, yeah, that would be good. I'm going to get a whiteboarding here, and it's like a tally, and it's like every time you say, you were right. And just do a playback, like on our podcast. We'll just do a playback. You're right.

You're right. You're right. Oh, my goodness. And it'll be hobby. I'm just going to start leaving posted notes every year. Kail is right. Every time I drop one Kian off, Kail is right. You know, even, well, I do want to throw out there.

We used to work out together. We used to go to CrossFit together. I was a beast back then. And it wasn't good. It was not, we cannot be in the same gym at the same time. Why? It was fine. I don't think so.

I would always, I remember one time you asked to be my partner and Alvin was there and I was like, no, I already have a partner. I don't recall. I remember. I would never be your partner because you swear you're the best one in the gym. You gotta believe it, right? Wait, so y'all even fight at the gym? We never fought at the gym. No, I don't think we ever fought.

We didn't talk to each other at the gym, really. Yeah, I went my way all the way down at the other side, and he went with his homeboys at the front of the gym. That's where the elite squad usually works out. Y'all are so weird. We really didn't speak at the gym. Since Havi's been on the hot seat, like the whole time. Oh, good God.

Havi. Is Kale weird? Am I weird? She's gross. First of all, that's not the question. She asks you, am I weird? Name one weird thing that I do. Nothing.

I'm not a weird person. I don't do weird things. I got to think about that. We haven't been together in so long. I've got to think about what you used to do. Literally, I'm not weird. No, I don't know. She's weird, Javi.

She is. She's a weirdo. I'm not weird. I don't know. I'd have to think about that. Show Javi how you brush your tongue right now. How do you brush your tongue? With the toothbrush?

No crap, hobby. No shit. So what are you talking about? Do you brush it this way or this way? No, with the brush sideways. Horizontal. Yeah. Yeah, high five.

Thank you. Why? So your brush your tongue's the same way. We did it a Twitter poll and nobody rushes it like that. Just me and you. You're supposed to go up and down? You're not even supposed to use your toothbrush because you're really just moving the germs around. You're supposed to use a tongue scraper to like get them out.

I didn't even know those existed. But yeah, you don't brush. brush your son's teeth, so why would you even know that? Here we go. Here we go. Oh my gosh. So yeah. Oh, my.

But yeah, this was fun. Let's go ahead. What can we expect from you guys coming up on this season of teen mom too? What can we expect from this season of teen mom too? Go ahead. Are you talking about for me? Yeah. Both of you, anybody.

I guess for me, I guess my relationship. blossoming into what it is. And the decline of our co-parenting relationship that we worked so fucking hard on. I mean, there's a lot of contributing factors. There's not a lot of, there's one contributing factor. See, I disagree. But anyways, at least on my end, yeah, just my relationship. Lincoln getting older.

And that's it. Work. Okay, well, I have a few. like kind of rapid fire questions for both of you guys. Okay. So don't talk over each other. One answer and then the other answer.

I go first and then you go. First is the worst second. Okay. Hobby's going to go first and then you. Okay. Favorite meal? Chick-fil-A. Chicken Alfredo.

Oh, we were being specific. I didn't know that. That's fucking favorite meal, chicken filet. What the whole? Those wrong kick-a-like. Okay. What's your favorite sport? To play or watch?

You should have just said whatever came to your mind. It's two different answers. Football or basketball. Soccer. You're going to say play soccer. Yeah, play soccer, watch football. Okay. Mine's basketball.

Okay. I'd rather watch basketball. Favorite animal? I don't like animals. Tiger. You don't like animals? I'm over the animals. Oh my gosh, this is a new conversation.

We'll hold that for when I leave. No, it was after the conversation we had earlier today about the animals inside the house. Like exotic animals, that's a different story. I'm talking about like in the house animals. I'm over it. Okay, but if you had to choose a favorite animal, what would it be? Hobby. A wolf.

A wolf? A wolf. Okay, go ahead, Keel. I was going to say wolf. Weird. Weird. I got wolf pack shirts for a, So do I.

The wolf is the leader of the pack. No, first of all, that quote was all wrong, so try again. I know. I tried to, what was it? What's the quote? For the strength of the wolf is the pack. That's right. And the strength of the pack is the wolf.

You're right. And what movie is that from? What movie is that from? Moana? Get out of my house. What movie is it from? It's from the jungle book. Oh, that's right.

You were so dumb. You were so dumb. I was going to get a jungle book tattoo, but I never did. You're right. I remember. What were you going to get Mowgli on your thigh? It was going to be on my biceep. But yeah, Mugly.

Or on the inside Mugli. Literally, you don't know one quote from that movie. Favorite restaurant. Comey. Wow, you're so basic. Outback. That's basic. Komei is like a habachi place.

That's not a chain. And you really like Outback. Oh, I like Kobe. That's good. Favorite dessert. What is that called? What is that called? Cram brule.

Is that it? Don't try to be like me. That's yours? Weird. You tried it because of me. Is it? Yes, because Kyle made it. That's right.

Kyle made it. That's where I got it. What is it? Crembrele. Crembrillet. Okay. Do you know what that is? That's my least favorite dessert.

Oh. You guys are weird. Coffee or tea? Coffee. Neither. I don't believe in caffeine. But you drink fit aid. There has no caffeine, caffeine-free.

You drink all kinds of sugary shit with caffeine in it. Coke. I don't drink Coke. Or small town? Small town. Big City. I'm a city boy. He literally grew up in Allentown, so.

I love Big City. I have Philadelphia tattooed on my arm. You're not even from Philly. I claim it, though. In an ideal world, how many children? In an ideal world, five. Three total. Three total, and Kail said five.

Mm-hmm. How do you come up with five when we, whatever. No, you're going to bring up the path. I don't, at the time in our relationship was not going to have more children with you. No. With the way things were. Got it. But, no, whatever.

Next. Favorite hobby? Sleeping. Traveling. Traveling. CrossFit. CrossFit's a hobby. It's not in my profession. So I say it's a hobby.

That's a hobby. Like, so active and like, it's like making yourself be better, like making your body better. That's like a good hobby. I appreciate that. But I would have to say, like, mine would be sleeping. I love to sleep. Oh, my gosh. I can't sleep.

I can't sleep when I'm dead. But when I said that, I was a horrible person. When I'm sleeping, someone else is. I'm asleep when I'm dead and alive. Someone else is awake making money. But true. You're not making any. I'm making a lot of money.

We are so excited. Yeah, thank you for having me. You guys have a good night. All right. All right. Thank you. Later. So that was very exciting slash scary slash.

I didn't know how that interview was going to go at all. It was so last minute that I don't even, I'm a little shocked. Well, you guys are definitely, you all are both hot heads, I feel like. Oh, we're both hot heads for sure. and we both have a lot of unresolved issues, I feel like, with the other one. And also, I just feel like Hobby played the fence with Brianna and myself. And so I just think that he doesn't even know what he wants. And so it doesn't make anything any easier.

Well, and, you know, men sometimes take a little bit longer to get there maturity-wise than females do. And that's not to knock on Hobby at all. that's just men in general. And so, you know, I think you kind of were at one place and he's at one place and then y'all weren't at a good place. And then, you know, you invited a whole bunch of drama into the situation, which just escalated everything so much more. And I mean, it's just like a disaster.

So I hope that during this time you guys can also work out your co-parenting and you all can, And sometimes you have to argue through it, you know, to get through it. And maybe that's what you guys are going to have to do. But I hope you can do it in a constructive way so that what are the outcome is, is positive. Yeah. I mean, I can only do what I've been doing. And that is to keep my mouth shut down a lot when there's issues because I just don't want to film that side of things. And so I think that's the hardest part for me.

But, I mean, the only thing that I can do from this point forward is hope that if they do get back together, that he draws, like, lines as far as respect goes and just, like, in general, because I feel like he's still, I don't know. Kail, the bottom line is, is there has to be appropriate boundaries established. And that's what I was trying to explain to Javi. And that's, we've talked about this before in every relationship in your life, just like when we were talking about organizing, everything has a place. and every relationship in your life,

everybody kind of has a place. Right. And there has to be a proper boundary there for people to know like, okay, this is the boundary and you don't cross it and this is what we're comfortable with. And, you know, at least you can honestly know

what the boundary is so that if you overstep. I'm the one that has to create the boundaries because he doesn't. And then whatever he goes back and tells her or any other girlfriend, that's the problem is he acts like it's my fault when I'm, one that's actually drawing the line. But no, I agree with you.

There has to be boundaries and whatever. Like I said, I always wish him the best and I always try to keep my mouth shut. And I don't know. And at the end of the day, the crazy thing is, you all can have fun together, you know, and it's so weird because once y'all get, I noticed kind of like a turn in the episode, like I noticed that when you weren't talking about past stuff and you kind of could talk about just things and, you know, like working out or whatever, you can get along during that time. Yeah, I can agree with that.

I think it's like the hurtful stuff that like causes both of y'all to just be so angry. Yeah, I mean, it's just unresolved stuff. But that's why we need to just spend as least as little amount of time together as possible and just try to be civil for like sports and like the kids. Yeah. And I mean at the end of the day, if your ultimate goal is to have a relationship with each other that helps you raise Lincoln the best that you can possibly raise Lincoln, then that's all you can ask for. Because, you know, when you go through a divorce, that's just, I'll just say it, a shitty situation. So you have to make the best of it.

And if y'all can co-parent and get along for events that involve Lincoln, then, you know, that's all you can ask for. You kind of move on with your life and he moves on with his life and move on in an respectful manner. Right. Well, so I think that's it for this episode of coffee combos. And we'll be back next week talking about Jody Air. and the three-day-long trial and episodes that we saw on Discovery ID.

So thanks for listening. Bye.