Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 14: Motherhood, Peeing Pants, Kim Kardashian and Time's Up

Episode Date: February 8, 2018

This week Kail and Lindsie talk about how stressed they've both been. Lindsie feels it is a common misconception that having one child is easier. Kail talks about how she feels like she's constantly raising a circus. Lindsie and Kail talk about how sometimes motherhood and life necessitates a really good cry session. Lindsie tells Kail a Jackson pants peeing story and Kail can relate because she pees her pants all the time. They discuss the reason behind their show and follow up from the episode of with Javi. They discuss some kind of hair trend that is causing women to lose their hair. Plus, they talk about their feelings on the Time's Up and #MeToo movements. They wrap everything up talking about Kim Kardashian and her baby. Today's show is brought to you by Fistuq nuts. To try the ladies favorite snack go to fistuq.com/coffee. And to try EasyKicks, an amazing subscription service for kids' shoes, go to easykicks.com/joinnow and use promo code EZLISTEN get $5 off your first order. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Hey guys, we're back with coffee combos and we have a ton of stuff to talk about as always. Mostly stress. Mostly stress. Yeah. First of all, Lindsay and I have had a super rough week and it's only Tuesday for us. So I feel like I'm raising a circus and I had a really hard time at the gym yesterday and I'll tell you all about that. But first, Lindsay, why are you stressed out? Well, I'm just so stressed. I feel like I know that you have multiple kids and,

I only have one and I think it's like a common misconception that just having one child is easier than having multiples. But I totally disagree with that because basically Will and I are all that Jackson has, you know, so he depends on us so much. And it's like, you know, if I need to record podcast or I need to, you know, cook dinner or, you know, I need to work out or whatever, he gets kind of like upset or anxious. and he doesn't understand that like life doesn't revolve around just playing action figures or, you know, iPad or whatever at any time that he wants to do that with me and thinks that I should be available, you know, at his service 24-7, it's a little, it's a little hard. I feel like with multiple kids, and I just say this because I only have one, but with multiple kids, I feel like they kind of entertain each other to a sense, and I am Jackson's entertainment.

Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, I don't even remember what it's like to have just Isaac. I remember, I mean, I worked a full-time job with Isaac, and so he stayed with, you know, Hobby's mom for a lot of the time. But now that I have multiples, Isaac and Lincoln can entertain each other a little bit more, but, you know, Lux needs my undivided attention most of the time. So I've just been, it's just been pure chaos. It's freaking Tuesday. And on Sunday we went to a dinner for my friends.

college graduation and we were there with her whole family and my kids are normally very well behaved. I really can't complain about that. However, I think because my friend's entire family was there and we're close with literally all of them that they felt like they could, you know, just be wild and I literally felt like I was raising a circus. Like I didn't know what the hell I was going to do. I didn't know. First of all, at dinner, Lincoln, please do not tell me that you need to go poop in the middle of eating dinner when we're at a restaurant. Oh my gosh. Then Isaac wants to switch tables and go sit with my friend's brother. And then I have Lux who's in between the stages of not sitting, not being held, but not quite in a high chair yet. So it's like I'm like trying to figure out like,

do I just like put him in the booth with me in a booster seat and like try to hold them up or like, what the hell what the hell do I do? And he's also in a stage where it's like, I don't want to try solid food yet, but he needs more than just a bottle. And then we get home, it's like, okay, it's a school night. We need to try to get everybody situated. I only have two hands. And Lincoln's at the stage where he can't shower by himself. Isaac can shower by himself, but then, oh my gosh, I just literally.

And it's so hard because, you know, I feel like when I tell Jackson to do something, I tell him task that I know that he can complete. And sometimes if he just doesn't do them because he doesn't want to do them, It's just so frustrating. And, you know, it's kind of a tricky age. And I feel like you're kind of at that age with Lincoln, too, that they're trying to figure out certain boundaries and stuff and like what they can get away with and what they can't get away with. And so it's like a huge learning curve, I think, right now. And the idea of going to kindergarten next year is really stressful for me because I'm trying to decide on schooling and all that stuff.

and it's just so stressful. And sometimes I don't know about you because I feel like you're not really that much of a crier, but I am a crier. I just... I'm a crier. Sometimes I'll just cry like a baby. It's, oh yeah, no. Yesterday, today's Tuesday, like I said, 12 times already.

But yesterday I went to the gym for the first time in like, I don't know, almost six months. And I, after I worked out, I just. sat in my car and I bawled for like 45 minutes because I was like realizing like how much I have ahead of me and also the whole stress of like getting into the gym. I know you said that we've talked about this before you try to work out at home. But for me I don't have equipment at home. So I go to CrossFit and that's hard because CrossFit's only open for certain for certain time windows like Monday, Wednesday, Friday it's only open from 11 to 1. So I'm Lincoln preschool is only for me for Lincoln, preschool is from 915 to 1215. So there's not much that I can do between 915 and 1215

and CrossFit opens at 11. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to have to pay for the extra hour or two to keep them at school so that I can just work out. And then I have, you know, we have other stuff going on. And then by the time I get done work, by time I was done working out, I was just so like just trying to figure my life out that I just sat in my car for 45 minutes and just cried about it until I got over it and went on a Twitter rant. But anyway, I mean, I feel like that's kind of like normal. I don't know. I feel like a big, not, probably not. I feel like a big old idiot whenever I'm just like sitting in the bath, just like crying about my stressful day because I know there's people out here because we are so blessed and there's people out here that have way worse

days. So I don't want anybody that's listening to this to think that, you know, like I'm ungrateful or whatever because I am very blessed and very thankful for that. But I am. I am. I'm just like a normal mom and like you're just like a normal mom and we do have those days and it's very stressful and pre-k I always say to other moms that you know have preschoolers that preschool schedules are not really conducive to you being able to get anything done because by the time you drop them off Jackson can get dropped off between 845 and 9 and then he has to be picked up by 1245 the latest so that doesn't give you a lot of time you know to get much. much accomplished because by the time you get to where you're going or, you know, need to get something

done, I hardly even could make a dentist appointment in that amount of time. Oh, I agree. That's one of my friends that was moving to Delaware, she wanted to put her son where Lincoln goes to preschool and she kind of just going over like the pricing with them and, you know, everything like that. And she was like, well, I don't, she was confused by the hours because I guess where she's at, they do like pretty much a full day of preschool. And she was like, I don't understand how you, how did these moms afford the schooling from 9 to 12, essentially, or 930 to 1230, and then go to work or get anything done?

She's like, I can't even apply for a part-time job. No one's going to hire me for three hours a day for preschool. Like, you can't work for those three hours. You can't really get much done. You can't go home and take a nap because by time you get home, lay down, fall asleep, and come back. You're pretty much the day is shot. You don't get it. I don't know.

It's just, it's very weird. mom is weird. I love it so much, but it's very strange. Think about it. Like, we're raising these tiny humans and we're, I don't know, trying to figure our life out, winging it, don't really know what to do, just kind of taking it to do. That's my dog walking across the floor. I'm so sorry. He needs his nails cut. What did you say? No, I was just going to go on. I'm just ranting and just, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out motherhood and trying to figure out what the hell we're supposed to be doing, you know? It was so funny because I remember when we first posted our first photo to our podcast Instagram, like way back when, I feel like it was so long ago,

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And I gave him his tablet to watch a movie just to have some time to sit there and reflect and like wind down from school. Can anyone explain to me why that child took it so literally? that he didn't want to come out of his room and then like pete his pants. He was so focused on like winding down that he didn't even want to get up to go to the bathroom. Yeah. And so by the time he got up, it was too late. And then he's pita's pants. And then he's like pitching a fit. And so I'm of course like when he he's pitching a fit and like he's, you can't even console him at this point because he's so upset. I'm sitting there and like at this point my voice is escalated because I'm like, you need to check. chill out. Like, you're the one who peed your pants, not me. And why did you take- I mean, I do that regularly, so. Well, we know this. We know that you pee your pants all the time. I'm like, did he tell you that he was just focused or what? No, he said, well, because I thought

I was supposed to stay in my room. So I just peed my pants. Well, Jackson, that's funny because the pee that was on your pants and on the floor was outside. outside of your room. So, like, if you thought you were supposed to stay in your room, why is the pee on your pants outside of the room? I'm confused. I mean, at least he, maybe he, like, thought about it. Maybe he was, like, I'm supposed to stay in my room, but I also have to go to the bathroom.

So maybe he was just, like, what do I do? He probably didn't, you know what I mean? Like, he was, it's probably one of those things where he's, like, in between thoughts. And it just, like, doesn't make sense because I did everything. that, you know, I should have done as his mother. It's like, I need five minutes to myself, so I need you to have five minutes to yourself. So you need to go upstairs and you have come home from school. Everybody knows that I make my child, you know, I'm weird.

I make my child take a shower when he gets home from school and put on clean clothes. You know, go through this whole process, clean out his backpack, Lysol down his backpack, Clorox everything, go upstairs. What? Lindsay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm going to need you to backtrack. You do what to you what? Lysol his backpack. Okay, so when he gets home from school, I think I've mentioned this on the routine.

Previous podcast. You said that he, you make him take a shower, but you never said that you wipe down his backpack with Lysol. Okay, so at Jackson's school, okay, this is just like the typical routine when we get home. Jackson gets out of the car, you know, we get out of the car. I carry in his backpack because I don't want him like. tripping over stuff and he's like a little bit clumsy so i carrying his backpack he takes his shoes off at the door because we don't do shoes in the house and then he immediately goes upstairs and he gets in the shower i take all of his clothes put him in a hamper get him clean clothes and while he showers i clean out

his lunchbox like thoroughly clean everything out and then i take chlorox wipes because he has to have a clear backpack at his school so i take a chlorox wipe and and like wipe all his backpack, wipe his folder down, everything, and then hang it up. Is that weird? Okay. So, I mean, the Cloroc, I mean, it's a little weird. I don't wipe, I don't wipe my kids backpacks down. Maybe I should start doing that, but also I probably won't. And then I like spray Lysol. I guess it's not that weird. It's a little excessive. But, I mean, do you? If it's working for you, nobody's getting sick, then, I mean, kudos. I just, I don't know. I don't know. I feel. I also. I feel like it's just part of like my OCD personality, you know. Yeah, yeah.

I'm just a little OCD about everything. You know, I got everything situated. You know, he had plenty of time to go to the bathroom, plenty of time to get, you know, water, plenty of time to get himself situated and for me to get his stuff situated in his room. And then we're just going to like take everything so literally and act like we're in our room when we're not in our room

and say that we're just going to, you know, we peed our pants because we weren't supposed to come out of our room. But yet we were out of our room when we peed. So like I'm going to have to. I'm just playing devil's advocate. Maybe he was, maybe he was like in between like maybe I should go the bathroom. Maybe I'm not allowed to leave. Like maybe he just wasn't sure, you know? Yeah.

I'm thinking that that probably was the case, but I'm just like, Jackson, please, honey. Like use your senses. Like if you've got to go to the bathroom, the toilet's right there, you never have any other. problems coming out of your room. So why would you listen today of all days? We're racing in circuses. So now I have, you know, I have now become a carpet cleaner and I have to get a rug doctor so that I can, you know, clean my carpet. I mean, I spot clean it, but, you know, I have to clean it. And this is, you know, why people don't have carpet. So I should probably

just like rip it up and just say to hell with it. Whatever. My room and the guest room are the only rooms that have carpet. I hate carpet. See, I don't know. If there's no animals, the carpet doesn't bother me. It's the fact that I have animals and they are the reasons why I don't have carpet. But truthfully, after my dogs go, and I mean that in the saddest way possible, I don't plan on having any more animals ever again. So I'll probably get carpet. See, I just don't know. like, but you're not as particular as me. Like when I have, you know, like my carpet, I like to be able to see the lines where it's been like freshly vacuumed. Like I don't like to see like, like, marks where people have walked and like traffic marks and like, I like it to be freshly

vacuumed and everything to look like pristine. I don't know. What do you do with like clutter? I don't have like, I literally don't have clutter. Okay. So what do you do with all the stuff then? What stuff? I don't know. I don't know. Like, for example, I'm looking around in my office right now. Okay, for example, you get something in the mail, but it's nothing that needs to be, I don't know if you have a filing cabinet. I have a filing cabinet. If it's nothing that needs to be filed, like, what do you do with it? But you can't throw it out, but it doesn't go in the filing cabinet. Then where the fuck do you put it? Well, if it doesn't need to be filed, like what's the purpose of it? Like what, you know what I mean? Like, what is the, like, what is it? Like, what is it? that you feel like you need to keep it.

It looks like I have a bunch of clutter. It's just, yeah, like, what do you do with this stuff? Like, I just, there's things that I don't have a plate. Like, when I told you guys on the previous podcast, I hired an organizer and we've been working really hard to, like, organize my house. And so far, my bathroom and my bedroom have been, they've been pretty much perfect, my pantry, perfect. But there are some things like my office that I just feel like, okay, for example,

I got the kids two ancestry DNA kits so that I could see, I thought it would be fun and I could, you know, figure out for them like where their dads come from and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So like we haven't done it yet. So it's just sitting on my desk in my office. Like what would I do with that until I use them? So do you have like a closet in your office that you can kind of like organize stuff? I have cabinets, but they're like there's things in them that I. already organized and so I guess the well my suggestion this is just a suggestion I'm not trying to like knock on you or any I'm not trying to knock on you or anything but this is just a suggestion um maybe

like do the kits send them off and then throw the kids away yeah I know I just I wanted to do it like on Instagram live or something fun or like have team ipi on team mom but but you know what I mean like if Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so for my type of personality, unless I was going to, like, immediately use it, I wouldn't order it for it to come to my house until I wanted to use it within, like, the next week. So then I wouldn't have it sitting around. You know what I mean? Right.

Like, I'm looking in my office right now, and I look to my right, and the only thing that's sitting there is a green highlighter, a specific kind of pen. And I'll tell you guys what type it is. It's a pilot G2.0.05. I hate those freaking pens. I know. You hate my pens and you're just terrible person. They don't enhance my penmanship. They make my handwriting look like trash.

Oh, I feel like they make mine look so good. So I have that pen and I have my green Sharpie and my planner. That's to my right. And then to my left, I have a few bills that I will pay at some point during this week. And then I'll throw those out once they get paid. And then I have nothing, like, I literally have nothing else on my desk other than a rolodex. And I'm like so old school that I still have a rolodex.

What's a rolodex? You know, like where you keep people's addresses, like in that little thing, it like spins. Oh, you know what? I actually need one of those. I'm very, we talked about if I'm weird or not. And I think the only weird thing that I do is like I'm a very like visual, like, pen and paper type of person. So like I can't type a paper. If I'm going to type a paper or like do something like that, like make a grocery list. I don't want to do it electronically. I don't want to type my

grocery list on my phone. I don't want to type my grocery list on the computer. I want to physically write the things out that I need. I want to physically write my paper with a pen and paper before I type it up. And so I actually have like a bunch of addresses that I need to put in an address book. I don't like the electronic version of that stuff. And I don't know why. I just. I can't, I cannot get with it at all. I don't know. Like I would rather write the things down. I have a planner. I have my calendar. And I just don't, I would, don't like it electronically. So you should got, like you guys should let us know if you have a roll decks in your office and what brand it is and if you like it, because Kail's looking for one and I still use I'm in the market for one. Okay, Kail, let's take a minute to tell our listeners about Latote.

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I don't like the ones that it's like you flip the page and it's like three days with lines. And then the next page is like three days with lines. You know what I'm saying? I can't stand that. I like to see the full month like all at one time. Me too. And then have room for like notes on the side. and then I also like

enough, it has to be like big enough that I can like write what I need to write but also small enough that I can fit it in like my backpack or like the diaper bag or wherever I'm going at the time and not be like huge. Like my planner goes with me everywhere and like I'm just going to tell you

normally if it's not unless it comes to you because of your dysfunctional organization unless it comes to you, if it's not in my daytime planner, like it's not happening. It's just, I mean, I think that's fair. And I don't know why I'm so like that, but I think it's because I'm so scheduled. And I have, like, such a schedule for everything and I pack like a bunch of stuff in. And then I might have like one free day that I'm like, okay, I'm dedicating this whole day to Jackson. And, you know, then I have one day that's like super busy.

and so I try to keep a happy balance there. So I have to know my full schedule. And I like to know like weeks in advance. I can't, for me, like to know like a day before or something, like chances are not happening. You know what? The fact that you just said that you have like a whole day that you'll plan with like just Jackson, I'm having the hardest time because I am obviously a single mom with multiple children.

finding the time to just dedicate a day or like a certain time to each of my children. So obviously Lux gets my undivided attention with both the kids are at school, which is between 9 and 12 every day. Both of the older boys are at school. But then also every other week when they're with their dads, I just have Lux. So with Lincoln, I can spend time with him when Lux's is napping. or whatever because I feel like Lincoln right now, he's not demanding like super huge amounts of time, you know, with just me. We're like, Isaac's the oldest.

I feel as though he has the most pressure on his shoulders. I feel like he knows the most. He knows, you know, the best. And so we expect him to know more and just do better, I guess. Like we expect him to, you know, know what's right and wrong. And so I feel like with that being said, he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders. I want to dedicate specific time to him. And I'm having the hardest time with that between sports and school and, you know, just schedules in general.

So that's like one thing that like sometimes it's like literally so last minute. But if I find the time to do it last minute, I will. But yeah, I mean, that's something that I need to schedule like, okay, I need to have a babysitter at this time every week so that I know that I can spend this time with Isaac. So I know this sounds like a little bit crazy. And I know you do spend a lot of time with your friends and stuff like that because you don't have, you know, family, you know, immediately around you. So like your friends are kind of your family. And I get that. But for me, I kind of like schedule dinner dates with my girlfriends and we'll go, you know, like have a dinner. And that's my kind of time with them. So then when I'm at home, my time is

solely like dedicated on spending time with Jackson or like getting stuff done around the house that I need to get done. Because we do have so much on our plates. And I feel like you have to to be able to organize your time so that you can get the most done possible without like missing something or somebody feeling left out like along the way. Right. So, I mean, I don't know if y'all go to dinner or, you know, I know that you have friends over pretty often and y'all all kind of hang out and more like family style, it seems. But I know that would be really hard to have that.

I kind of like think of it if I had an infant and then Jackson. I would feel that exact same way how you're feeling about Isaac. I just, it's hard because I feel like a lot of the times they come over when the kids are about to go to bed and I can't go out to have dinner. And the people that I would go out to dinner with are the people that would babysit my kids. Right, right. So it's like a. So like that's where it's like a struggle is like even if the older kid, the older two are with

their dads, I still have Lux here. And the person that I would go to, like, that would join us for dinner also is the person who would watch Lux at home. Right. So, um, that's where I'm like, okay, we'll just come over when the kids go to bed and we'll like hang out. But yeah, I don't know. We'll figure it out. It's just a learning process. I'm hoping at some point in the near future that I don't know. Lux's dad will start to, um, can you like give an update on that? Or, There's like not really one. Yeah, for sure. So there's not really an update.

Chris gets, Chris is court ordered to be allowed to see Lux for four hours a week, supervised visit. And I obviously am willing and I have been working with him and the supervisor to make that happen. However, the supervisor could no longer do them. and it's just been hard because even when she can't be there to supervise, he doesn't, Chris doesn't text me, Chris doesn't call me, Chris doesn't ask how the baby's doing regularly. So it's just been hard. Like there's zero form of co-parenting whatsoever? Zero.

There's absolutely no form of co-parenting. And the hard thing is that I think I, there's a lot of bitterness and resentment and animosity. And I think from both of us, I can't. can't speak for Chris. I can only speak for myself, but in my own mind, I think it's on both ends. And so it makes it very hard to co-parent. And, you know, he's not used to being in the public eye. And I think, obviously, having a baby with me makes him in the public eye, which I do feel bad on some level for that. And I just, I don't know. I'm just struggling with it emotionally because I feel like I know what's right and what's wrong. And I know it hurts my heart because,

no matter what decision I make, I can't please everyone. Right. Like, I don't want to let Lux down. I don't want to interfere with Lux and Chris's relationship, but I also know what's best for my son because I see the situation, you know, more clear. And I feel like I'm the more, I don't know, maybe I'm going out on a limb here and saying I'm the more level-headed one. But I just, I don't know. There's no consistency.

And that's, I've told you, like, since we've. become friends that consistency with everything in life is key to success, like, period. I mean, you have to be consistent with every aspect of your life. And if you're not, then like pieces fall apart. Like, it just doesn't, it doesn't work. And I do feel bad because I know that you feel like you're overcompensating with Lux because you feel like you're kind of playing both roles in a sense. But you, it's not like you're trying to cut him out. either. You know, it's like you would.

But that's where he goes on social media and he says whatever he says and he basically blamed me from keeping him from his son. But the problem is that honestly, if he never put his hands on me, I wouldn't have had anything to say in court. The second thing is he's not consistent. And that's the biggest thing is I obviously never kept Isaac from Joe. I never kept Lincoln from Hobby. I'm not that person.

And I just, I don't want to be that. that person. I want to see Lux have a relationship with his dad and I want to be the one to facilitate that. But also right now, it's just not possible in a healthy way. Right. Well, and I mean, if it's not going to be healthy for Lux and it's not going to be healthy for anybody involved, then it's kind of, you've got to figure out how to make it be healthy because... Well, we don't even speak. So there's no consistent phone calls. There's no consistent text messages, even if it's just about Lux. Like there's not, there's no consistency. So I mean, I'm hoping that, you know, in the next few weeks, few months that things get better. There's some type of, I don't know, I'm doing what I have

to do. What is court ordered. I'm doing it. I'm following the rules. I'm doing what I need to do on my end. So the only thing that I can do is hope that everything else falls together. Right. Well, I'm going to be praying for you and praying for Lux, which I always do. Let's take a minute to talk about our new cool partner, Easy Kicks, a sneaker club for fast-growing kids created for busy parents. And I absolutely love this idea. It's a monthly subscription service that provides your kids with great sneakers. It's $20 a month, and you can choose a whole bunch of the latest trending shoes made by Nike and

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stay true to my life and my story and this is what it is. Well, you know, and the whole point of us doing this podcast and that that was a, you know, good way to kind of talk about it because I've been wanting to talk about it. The whole point of doing this podcast is to just be real and authentic and just true to what's actually going on in our lives and be able to connect with you guys on a more personal level, which we've said in the past. And this is, like this podcast was in no way intended to be created to bash anybody or be created to speak negatively about anybody. It's just our truth. You know, I don't really have that much drama in my life other than

Jackson peeing on the floor today. I know that you have more because you have, you know, three kids and they each have a dad and I know it's it's difficult at times but I don't think this podcast and I think you would agree I don't think it was you know ever intended to try to harm anyone and I know that there was a lot of things said on social media last week that you know um people were being bashed and stuff like that and I don't ever think that that was the intentioned anybody I don't think that that was our intention I don't think that I did that I don't think that Javi did that I don't, I mean, do you agree? I don't know.

I mean, there was nothing. The thing is, is like this podcast isn't, you know, like bad things edited into, you know, everything that we say is what we say. And I think that no one, the conversation to me, whenever we were having the conversation, felt very, like, honest. But it wasn't, it wasn't trying to bash anybody in any way. And I feel if anything, like Havi defended the situation. And I think that you didn't say anything negative to speak of. And so, you know, I was just, I don't know, but we're not trying to create enemies or I know you're not trying to create enemies or anything like that. I already have the enemies.

The enemy's already there. So at this point, it's like I can only speak for myself and how I see things and how I feel about things. And if people are offended by that, I guess. That's their problem, not mine. So I don't know, moving forward, I just hope that, you know, I know that this podcast will get back to Chris and his family. And obviously, they're going to say things. But I guess at this point, you know, I just have to take the backlash with also the positivity. And I know that people who have followed my story and, you know, have seen Lux and love to watch him grow up just as much as I do.

I know that they're hoping that his dad will have a relationship with him too. So, I mean, it's all, I don't have any, yeah, there's resentment. Yeah, there's a little bit of bitterness. But, like, overall, I wouldn't want, you know, I want the best for my son. And that is to have a relationship with his dad. Well, I mean, I think that's very, you know, mature to put Lux first. And I do feel like you do put Lux first at all times. So I just hope that everybody understands that there's no intention to harm anybody in any way with any type of statement.

I don't believe in doing that or going out and say negative things about people. I say time takes care of everything. So I don't need to. Well, if that's not the truth, then I don't know what it is. Okay, let's pause for a second and talk about nuts. I love nuts. They're great. I can put packets of them anywhere I want and grab them for a healthy little treat.

I give them to my kids or in the car and they're just super easy and convenient from my bag. Me too. Fistuck nuts are delicious. They have smoked, salted, season. season flavors. The season nuts are the best ever and I just love them. If you'd like to try these awesome nuts, please go to fistook.com slash coffee. That's f-I-s-t-u-k-com. They're so good. Can we talk about, on a completely unrelated note, can we talk about the Times Up movement and Me Too? Because I feel like that has been getting so much media.

Wait, yes, it has, but can we please? talk about the Monet stuff first because my mind is blown. Oh, the stuff that I sent you about the hair falling out? Yes. So how do you say it? I'm pretty sure it's Monet. Okay, so how did you hear about this? Okay, I didn't know what the hell Monet was and like a bunch of people were like,

I shouldn't say a bunch because that's a lie. Like two or three people came up to me and were like, oh, have you tried Monet? And I'm like, I don't know what that is. And then I got like a text message from someone, oh, you should try Monet. I'm not signing up to do any other direct sales. I do sensey and that's it. And I just like kind of let it go in one year and out the other, but like vaguely know what it is. And then you sent me the girl who half of her hair has fallen out.

Yeah. So, okay. So the one that I sent you about that girl, that was just one that I happened to like come across this morning. But last night, whenever I was on Facebook, I saw like worse ones where people were actually like hair falling out. out at the scalp. And what I had read was that they were in the process of changing their distributor or something. So I don't know if there was something wrong with the product or what happened

or an adverse effect or whatever. But I mean, this was like, I mean, would you say drastic? Because I mean, it was like, I would, you'd have to cut your hair from like past your shoulders up to like a freaking bob in order to try to correct the damage that was done. Okay. So to give you guys any type of like insight. This girl's hair was probably like as long as kale's and the other side of her hair was like as short as mine. Because her hair was just breaking off and she was told that through the Monet products that it was detoxing, what is it, detoxifying her hair? Yeah, detoxifying her hair. Well, I'm sorry, but detoxing your hair doesn't mean like every strand of hair falls out. Wait, is detoxifying a word or is it detoxing?

detoxing? I have no idea. Detoxing. I sound so freaking ignorant. Detoxing, detoxifying, whatever it is, that's just not true because your hair just wouldn't like literally be falling out in clumps. The reports are that people's hair are falling out in clumps because of the product. She said that in the post that she couldn't even get a brush through it. I mean, how horrible is that? Could you imagine? Like, what if we used that shampoo and that happened? Could you imagine if that happened in my hair?

Well, I, and she, in the post it said it was so, well, your hair is already so short. I know. I know. If you did use it, like you'd have no hair. I would look like a boy. Anyway, so yeah, I just wanted to, I couldn't believe that. And I think, hopefully they cleared that up. Hopefully the product is up and running again.

But thank God I don't use it. I know. That would be terrible. And I don't even know what I would say to you. If you sent me a picture like that and you were using that product, I would tell you not to contact me. I would ball my eyes out because first of all, if I were to even like try to get like extensions or something, like extensions over time, like long periods of time can do damage to your hair too. So it's like, what am I going to do? Put extensions in already completely damaged hair. Oh no. I would, I'd probably have to shave my head and start over. Oh my. Oh my God. Oh my God. That was just so bad. I know you were freaking out about you were freaking out about the picture. And I was just like. Oh my God, is this even serious? Like, is this, is this spoofing? Is this a myth? Is this a lie?

Well, who knows? We don't think, we don't use it. So we don't know. Like, what is it? What were you talking about? The Times Up movement and the Me Too. Me Too movement. Yeah. So, you know, I don't know if you watched the Gramies, but they did the white roses to support female empowerment. and lack of female representation, I guess, in the industry on the winners list. And so, I don't know, do you know what Times Up movement is? I know a little bit about it. I just know that Wendy Williams is sick of the Me Too movement. And I know that you said that they're kind of under the same umbrella.

Yeah. So Times Up is against sexual harassment. and it was founded like early this year. I think it was January by Hollywood celebrities in response to the Harvey Weinstein stuff. And I think it's kind of, they're kind of like together times up and Me Too. They use the Me Too hashtag. And I mean, I'll say that when people jump on movements like this, it kind of blows up. And I mean, I don't know.

I could go either way on it, to be perfectly honest. I'm going to be honest with you. I haven't really been paying too much about it other than vaguely knowing what it is. I just don't know. I didn't watch the Grammys. I don't know any. I just, I don't know. I think the main thing for times up, they've really just put a spotlight on the treatment

of women like women and gender equality. I think that out of anything, that should be what everybody takes from it. And the thing that I think a lot of people are not liking about it is it's kind of controlling. Like it took over all. The Grammys was basically focused all around times up in Me Too. I remember you saying that earlier today you said about like the nominations and stuff like that. And I don't know. I guess.

Like for example, there was, you know, Kesha, she did that song praying. heard it? No. Well, it's a great song and it was about sexual abuse from her man. I think it was her manager or somebody and I remember that there was a whole thing and like Taylor Swift really supported her, you know, throughout that situation, you know, of her going through the sexual abuse. And then there was, how do you say Ed Shearin or how do you, do you know? Ed Shearin. Yeah, is that how you say his name? Yeah. I don't listen to his music. but Ed Sheeran won over Kesha praying, and the song that he won was about a woman's body. So I think a lot of people had kind of...

A lot to say about that. A lot to say about that because, you know, he's winning a Grammy and, you know, this girl has gone through sexual abuse. And her song is about, you know, the abuse and her journey. And I think people just like really didn't like that. So yeah, let us know what you guys think if you're kind of over the times up and me too or if it's something that you're really behind and give us your opinions on that. Because I think we're both, I would say a little bit indifferent on it. Yeah, I would say that's pretty a fair statement.

Can we talk about quickly before we finish up? Kim Kardashian and her baby. Okay. Oh, her baby? I thought we're going to talk about her naked picture because I kind of am like torn about that too. Oh, okay. So did you see the naked picture that she posted? Yeah, okay.

So let's talk about her baby first and then we'll talk about her makeup picture. Okay. Okay. So I'm obsessed with the baby's name. I love the idea of her. Yeah, I love the idea of her. I say crazy names, but it's just because nobody else has those names and I really like the idea.

and they call her what, shy? Okay, so that's what I was about to say. I didn't know how I felt about it until I knew that they call her, do they call her chai or shy? I think it's shy pronounced S-H-Y. So I was like, oh, Chicago is different because I feel like North is like one syllable, St. one syllable. So like North, St. Chicago. Like I just, like, didn't know how I felt about it, but I like the nickname for it.

And so obviously Kim Kay is always going to do something like, completely off the wall and I think naming her baby Chicago was definitely a little bit off the wall. So but the nickname's cute. I think it's cute. It's definitely a Kim and Kanye thing to do. So definitely interesting. And I just wonder what the baby looks like. Oh, that's right. They didn't do a reveal. You know, I didn't even think about what the baby looks like. I just want to know, because I think her kids are so cute. I know they are very cute. I wonder if the baby will look just like north. Yeah, that's what I feel like since it's a girl. I want to know. what Chloe and Kylie are going to name their babies.

I know. That's very interesting. I think that it's pretty much confirmed that Kylie is pregnant. I mean, she was covered in the Calvin Klein ad. Oh, yeah. And there's a TMZ video that's like her like getting into a car in and out of a car. And she's like very big and like getting out just like when you're pregnant. Like when you're big and pregnant.

Also, I saw something about having a baby crib delivered to her house and some baby girl baby shower at her house. I don't know if that was for Kim or if that was for her. And then I also read that she's about a month from her due date. Wow. Okay. And then there was some type of article that she was at Cedars too. So I don't know if she was in the hospital for something or whatever, but I did see an article about that as well. So I think it's pretty much, I'm not going to say it's confirmed because I don't know.

But from what I've seen, it seems as if, you know, the rumors are probably true. I'm also obsessed. Well, yeah, I mean, if you weren't pregnant, then you would deny it. Right. And she hasn't been on this season of keeping up either. So, you know, it makes me wonder if, you know, she really is or why she's, you know, hiding or what the situation is. And you know what, to be perfectly honest, as much as their immediate. have followed. She has every right to hide if she doesn't want to be seen because I know that

that, you know, you have that same thing. Like, you don't want people taking pictures of you, like on the beat, like that whole thing about people taking pictures of you on the beach with Lux and like you, you know, not knowing and feeling like it's unflattering. I'm sure she feels that exact same way and she has every right to feel that way. And, you know, people should respect her privacy, but it doesn't mean that we aren't curious. So I wonder what her baby will look like and Chloe and Tristan are just so adorable. So. Well, I don't. Okay.

Yeah, they're cute, but I just have like a soft spot for Tristan's like first baby mama. Because even though if they like, I don't know whether they were together or not some of my business. However, he kind of left her pregnant and by herself. And so whatever the case is, I just have like a soft spot for women that go through that because it's so hard. And kudos to her for like never saying anything about Tristan and Chloe because she could have a lot of negative stuff to say and she doesn't. So kudos to her. I'm wondering what the hell. She also might have an NDA so she might not like literally be legal to say anything.

Oh shit. I'm going to start making everyone in my life sign NDAs. Like you come to my house, you're going to sign this NDA. Like you pass that shit out like Tic Tacs. Right. I want to know what they're. going to name their baby. And if it's a, like, are they going to name it something like, I wonder if it'll be like

more traditional. Like, I could see her going like the traditional around. Right. That's what I was going to say. Are they going to go like off the wall? Because I feel like Courtney has like pretty cool names that are like pretty, I mean, I wouldn't call them traditional, but like they're everyday names that you hear. Like a little chic, but every day.

Right. So like I wonder if Chloe will name her baby something that's like off the wall or not. I think it'll be a junior. Like, I think it's going to be a boy. I don't, did they confirm it was a boy? I feel like I saw something. I don't know. I said that it was a boy.

I think it'll be like Tristan Jr. She did say that on Ellen. She said that it would be just, I don't know. I don't know if I believe that. I think that's like throwing everyone off. No, I think she was like really like not kidding. I think it'll be that. Oh.

But like she could have been kidding. I feel like. It could have been a whole trick. If I ever, I had this baby name, which I'll never tell for a baby girl. And like I always. say that like I'm going to go to the sperm bank and like try to only have girls like implant girl embryos and I'm totally making this up in my head because I'm not going to actually do this. But if I ever have a girl, I had like this like off the wall name that I'm obsessed with and I'll never tell. So I can't

even talk shit on anyone who names or maybe anything off the wall. I know. I mean, well, I honestly thought like Lincoln was a little off the wall when you named him Lincoln, but it like perfectly fits him. Really? You did? Yeah, because, like, I just never heard, like, the name Lincoln other than, like, Abraham Lincoln. You know what? Joe's girlfriend, V said the same thing. She was like, oh, my God, Kail, I was wondering what the fuck you were thinking when you named him Lincoln. But I don't know.

Like, I loved the name Roman for a boy. I had, um, Havie and I could not decide on a girl name because, as you guys know, I don't find out the sex of my babies until birth. So, like, we couldn't decide on a girl name until I went into labor. and for the longest time, probably like seven months of my pregnancy, I was like, okay, if it's a boy, it's Roman, it's Roman, it's Roman. And then we watched Prison Break, and one of the main characters was Lincoln, and so Lincoln Burroughs. And so I was like, nope, if we have a boy's name is Lincoln. And so we're going to go with Lincoln. And then we went, we had a boy, and we named him Lincoln.

So, yeah, I mean, I feel like Lux is more off the wall than Lincoln. Yeah, it's just, I mean, I've never heard. Lux either, but just Lincoln was like, I've never heard of another kid named Lincoln other than Abraham Lincoln. And I didn't even know Abraham. So like, I didn't know that person either. But that's the only time I'd ever heard the name. So other than Lincoln Town Car. I also loved the name Abraham. That was another name I loved. You could have literally named him Abraham Lincoln. Lowry or what's hobby's last name? Mariquin. Mariquin. Yeah. Yeah. So did your kids get like hyphen names? No. So you know what? I think about that all the time and that's something that's

like in my new book coming out. I, so like when I had Isaac, I was going to, my mom even like was name him Lowry. It's going to be Isaac Lowry, Lowry, Lowry. So I was like, okay. And then when I had him and I was filling out the paperwork for the birth certificate, I looked at Joe and I was like, what last name are we going to give him? And Joe was like, well, give him mine because we'll probably get married. So like obviously I was 17 years old and didn't obviously think this through. And I was like, okay, so I gave him Rivera. So I didn't hyphenate him. And then Hobby and I were married. So I was like, okay, you're obviously going to get your dad's last name. And I'm in the process of trying to make Lux a Lowry. But it's just been. It's a process. Yeah. So. Oh my gosh. Well, so I know that there was a few

topics that we wanted to talk about. Remember, we had talked about women and keeping their maiden last names and stuff like that. So we can save that for another podcast because we're out of time. But yeah, it was so fun talking with you guys. We need to talk about Kim Kay's naked picture next time too. Oh yeah. We'll talk about her makeup picture and then, yeah, a bunch of other stuff. But next, Actually, after this week, we will have either a medium or Leah. I don't know which one will be first, but one of those episodes will be coming next. So you guys be looking out for it and make sure you leave us a five-star review, leave us comments. We definitely love to read them, not as much the negative ones as we do the positive ones,

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