Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 144: Mobile Kids, Mom Madness, and Outgrowing The Bad

Episode Date: February 18, 2021

Kail and Lindsie are back and starting off strong with another wild animal story from Kail. What is with her house and attracting animals? Then, and babies start to move around more they get harder to handle. Kail and Lindsie talk about, in their experience, what happens to daily routines as kids start to become mobile. And does anyone else's kids act on their best behavior what they go out with Dad, but push the limit with Mom? Lindsie has been noticing a pattern with her son and wants to know why she gets the short end of the stick. Plus sometimes there are characteristics and actions that run in the family that you want to outgrow. Lindsie shares a quote with Kail about stopping the bad habits, and they discuss what it means when you do. This episode was sponsored by: Stitch Fix, Caviar, Function of Beauty, & Literati Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Y'all welcome to coffee combos. I love that you said y'all why is this so abrupt I feel so caught off guard listen to me are you listening yeah there is 20 20 flying squirrels in my attic listen to me listen to me there's 20 flying squirrels in my attic I cannot make this shit up and I don't understand listen to me listen to me listen to me the people that remove the bats I'm I think I have to sue them he put bait he put bait to lure them in in my attic he put bait in the attic what I'm not making this up where did where did your house find squirrels wings do you understand what I texted my builder I met with my builder yesterday his name is Kevin he's amazing he's such a sweet man like he's so great I texted him this morning and I'm gonna

post this on the story I said I don't know this was at 8 59 a.m. it is 9 10 a.m. I said I don't know what needs to be done but the new build needs to be animal proof there's flying fucking squirrels in my attic how did you find squirrels that had wings like how do they fly I'm so confused listen to me I heard them last night and I was like if these fucking bats are back I don't know what's gonna happen but I'm gonna burn the house down and someone I don't I don't know listen what did it sound like it sounded like like can you hear this yeah barely like scratching like scratching so I'm like fuck these fucking bats you said it was a raccoon that's what you text me well evidently it's squirrels but how do you know did you go up there I called somebody

yeah actually called the first I called the bat guy they didn't answer and I said you guys have already been out here to remove the bats like there's something else in the attic I don't know what's going on but can you please call me back I left my phone number it's now 9 11 nobody's called me back so I text my friend Amy who I've talked about before Isaac's third grade teacher she knew somebody this guy was like I texted him I was like hey David his name is David there's something in my attic can you please help and he came right away and there is squirrels there's 15 and 20 squirrels up there and he said that they put bait boxes up there and he doesn't understand why the bat people put bait boxes up there and he doesn't know why well and I'm so

confused why they would have put bait boxes and then like not removed them like what are you trying to catch if there's nothing there I'm I don't even know what to do about a situation like this do I can I sue the bat people like what the fuck I don't know what you do but I mean this is quite problematic like this is at this point infestation I how am I supposed to sell this house but did you have all of these rodent issues like before my tenant yeah no I never had a rodent issue before my tenant ever like I've never even seen a mouse in that house in this house like I've never even seen not even one outside so I've never had an issue and then I move out for like 13 months and I come back and this is this is wild I know it's crazy because I like am coming

off of this like super excited like yesterday I met with my builder we filmed like a whole meeting about finalizing everything I signed my contract I wrote my deposit like all of that so it was and he was like you need to order your appliances like tomorrow and I was super excited because there's a huge back order and just like super super pumped in a good mood feeling good like nothing could ruin my day until last night like I couldn't sleep because there was fucking things in my attic I think you're uber sensitive to being able to hear this stuff though because remember that one time you stayed at that hotel in Atlanta and you heard the rats in the walls yes so maybe you have like ESP with like these types of things because I feel like the average

person and maybe I'm wrong because I haven't had one doesn't hear these things as well as you well maybe I'm like super sensitive to them yes I'm thinking so because like if I if I heard something like slinging in the walls or whatever I don't know that I would automatically be like oh that's a flying squirrel or a raccoon or a bat or a whatever like I feel like you automatically also know what it is it's weird actually I had a friend not too long ago who told me that they rented a house and that it was infested with rats like in the like like yeah and that you could hear them running and they let him out of their lease and everything I mean obviously but how does that start I need answers well and that's what I said before I think I was talking to my

friend Darcy and I'm like not about this problem but like the bats like I'm not a dirty person like I'm not I'm not I don't keep garbage around I don't keep like food out like like in order to get like mice or rodents or anything like I don't in my attic is completely clean like nobody goes up there I actually had work done when I moved back in I had someone go up there and like make sure everything was fine and it was fine that's so weird I don't understand the guy that is there now for the squirrels said that he doesn't understand why the bat person would put food in there he doesn't understand why they would why they would lure other they put bait boxes up there he said he doesn't understand why so I don't know like I'm not understanding because I don't keep

food or like around you know what I mean like I don't have and not for nothing but I have dogs so my dogs would kind of chase away anything that's in the yard do we think that the bat people put bait up there because they knew that you wouldn't go up there so that if other things came back that you would keep calling them back so you would have to keep paying them that's literally the first thing I thought literally the first thing because the first time they came I wasn't I was only the landlord so I gave the approval right away when the tenant because I had a property manager and he you know hit me up and was like I have to just approve this because it's X amount of dollars I was like yep that's fine like don't even worry like I'll cover it like go do what you

got to do and then why I'm why I come back into the house and they're still and I'm not I don't know that she was dirty because I don't know I went and did a walkthrough while she was still living there with her family and there was like a lot of like holes in the yard from her dog but like nothing outside like I didn't see trash around you know what I mean so I don't know what the fuck could have happened in one year for this to be going on this is literally insane like literally insane okay well now that you have another infestation do you have anything else going on that is I mean other than that my house stuff yesterday I was super pumped about was very excited about and then obviously had to test yesterday because I'm coming to Atlanta I love that people well actually I

feel like people who live here call it Atlanta but like you just did what do you mean what would I call it Atlanta but I feel like yeah but I feel like people that are from here call it Atlanta but people who aren't from here call it Atlanta Atlanta no it's Atlanta well I love that I love that you do that I basically from there like at this point Atlanta is my second home yeah you basically have part-time residency here so are you excited I'm excited to sleep through the night like I don't care if I have five or six a.m. call times like I don't care I'm just excited to sleep through the night and like because even when Creed has good nights I still wake up so I think I'm gonna take some melatonin and sleep yes that's you know actually I was thinking about this the

other day I was watching this woman feed her baby like at a restaurant and she was getting all of these things out of the diaper bag and I was just like watching her like unpack everything and like get everything set up and I guess you just forget when you don't have a baby that is that little you just forget all of the things that like you used to pack for yours yes and then I also thought this when I was buying a birthday gift for my nephew who's turning one you forget what you bought your kid when they were that age or like what types of things that they liked does that make sense yeah I'm actually having I have four kids and I I don't even know what to get like I just feel like he it's so hard because you get them the typical baby stuff but I feel like he's he would

rather like play with a spoon I don't know it's weird so actually it's funny that you bring that up because and this is not an ad we're not sponsored by them I wish we were because I just spent a pretty penny on them but I just subscribed to it's called love every and it's supposed to be like age appropriate toys for your your children to play with and so obviously Creed six months so I got him the five six months I started there and it's supposed to be toys that are like geared toward whatever the milestones are that they're supposed they're around where they're supposed to hit between five and six months and then the next month is like seven eight months that they get and it comes monthly I'm hoping it's good because Creed's at that age where like he really wants to

explore but he can't walk right but he's and then he gets frustrated because like he wants to like walk around but he can't so he's just kind of like a sloth he's just yeah but like you can't keep him still because he's pissed he doesn't want to sit still he wants to move around and he wants to look at things and he wants to touch everything and I already put a baby gate at the top of my stairs and at the bottom because I just worried that like if I was ever upstairs and needed to go just do laundry because I my laundry is upstairs down the hall like I didn't want him to fall down the stairs but then if we're downstairs I didn't want him to go up the stairs and also fall down the stairs so I put those up and then I put I put every all the outlet covers are on because I know

he's starting to get to that place where it's like mobile where he's mobile but it's a really this is a really hard age it's definitely a harder age well I was gonna say I remember that age specifically because it was almost like they could do something but like they can't do something does that make sense like it would be so much easier if they could walk but then I don't know because when Jackson started like speed crawling and walking he was into every freaking cabinet every you know I couldn't I couldn't even get ready in the bathroom because then if I did opening the drawers getting into everything yeah and then like by the time I turned around everything that I owned was in the middle of the floor and I just I remember getting so frustrated at that phase of life because I'm

like it was hard that's it's honestly my out of all of motherhood it's definitely my least favorite just because you it literally takes an extra hour or two to get ready yes I know that feeling all too well and you like can't put them down to get ready but you need to get ready so what is the alternative you have to get up an hour or two early before they get up to get everything done I will never forget my parents would like invite me to go to lunch or you know over to their house or whatever and literally I would have to start if this was for like a lunchtime thing I would have to start you know getting ready at like 8 a.m. morning yes so that I could actually walk out the door and be prepared to be there on time and I'm just like oh my god I've been getting ready

for the past three hours like and I don't even look extra fancy I just look you know like I don't look like Cruella anymore like to your point too like Creed is on such a strict like nap and bedtime thing I really prefer honestly to just not take him out like I Natalie is such a huge help to me and if I have to go do something I like she stays with him because I it's so stressful to like plan around his like if I was to bring him and try to do nap time with him and not have his blacked out you know sleeping situation his noise machine his blackout curtains like his zippity zip it's like it's almost like a swaddle but it's like a step up from that yep it's just too hard so I'll just I will literally pass on so many plans and one of the things that I was

wanting to do this year was like really budget and like avoid unnecessary spending but that being said like planning vacations and stuff has been on hold and then my friend was wanting to do something for his birthday for five days mark you guys know mark and I was like unfortunately I was like there's two reasons why I can't go one I'm trying to budget and really save my money so that I could build my dream house and unfortunately that means sacrificing certain things I was like I'll come for one day I was to the to your birthday plans I was like I'm not gonna stay all five days I said in number two which I didn't say to him but like in my own head was trying to stay in an Airbnb with creed with a bunch of other people just I couldn't I can't with it it's this age is so fucking hard

it's I can't I can't even imagine I don't I'm not jealous of you at baby it's like the newborn stage is super fun because it's like oh cuddles and baby snuggles and you can sleep together and it's fine and they sleep every you know pretty much all day and then like when they're around like one and they start walking and and really start to to babble and talk and do all of those things but like that in between stage is so freaking hard but it's like six to nine months is is a rough territory um speaking of something else I know that I talk about this all the time and oh my gosh what y'all are gonna be like Lindsay shut up but I saw this article come up and it said only fans model um gets fired after a clip with student goes live

I'm sorry what yes it goes live like what do you I guess like goes live on only fans so it says um for those of you who don't know who only fans are which I'm sure all of you do it says only fans has become a good source of secondary income for a lot of people these days especially attractive models but this one um specifically got her in heart hot water she's a 23 year old former Catholic high school teacher and was let go of her job after a video of her and a student went viral on only fans which according to twitter you can see on her only fans the student in the video was a former student and therefore she believes she was wrongfully let go but that hasn't stopped her as she has gone on to be one of the top creators on on only

fans and continues to grow her popularity it shows all of these like sexy photos like in this article and I just want to know like what people think even if it was a former student what does that have to do with anything right I mean she's saying that because she was a former student she shouldn't have been let go for sleeping with a student she I guess sleep with a student or just take pictures or well I don't know I obviously didn't see the video but I just wanted to know what people thought about the entire situation like why would in anyone's right mind do any type of video with any student that they ever had like that doesn't make sense that doesn't make sense like I don't even pictures video nothing like there's no reason why that should

ever occur but then to see a woman like obviously she can't hope that she's absolutely beautiful but to be a 23 year old Catholic high school teacher and to look like the pictures of what she looks like I'm just like that would probably drive the boys crazy like and obviously you can't discriminate because somebody looks pretty like you can't not hire them because they look pretty but I mean I don't know a 23 year old putting them in a Catholic high school with boys to me that's also like asking for trouble um I the school that my kids go to they recommend that teachers don't even post photos on social media in their bathing suits like they don't even what yeah oh wow so they they don't even want like anyone to be able like a student or anything like that to be able to see

nope they're it's I don't know that they I don't know if it's like a requirement that they can't but I know that it's definitely encouraged to not even have photos in your bathing suit on wow wow that's that's wild that's oh yeah I don't know how I feel I mean it's hard because I feel like we live in such a like I don't even know what to call like the world we live in today right like you can't really knock someone I mean who's to say she's not there's not teachers who strip on the side you know for income and they do it an hour away where no one knows you know where they're from or whatever but like I don't know it's like people need to supplement their income is one thing but when you're involving a student I think that that's just crossing so many

lines it's just wrong on any level I mean we'll probably disagree on this because we've we've just agreed on the whole porn issue or not issue whatever you want to call it topic I'm not really down with only fans so for me all together that's just like wrong before it got started I think that you right right right should know um your limits obviously you're a teacher at a Catholic high school that already looks a little bit shady that you're teaching at a Catholic high school and you're out you know posting pornographic photos on only fans on your off time which you know then you get into the argument well you can't tell me what to do on my off time whenever I'm not you know teaching or whatever but I truly do feel like when you take on a job

um that requires you to imprint on other people's children um you're an educator for them whatever that you are held to a certain standard whether you're at school or whether you're not at school and I'm sure a lot of teachers probably feel you know my mother-in-law was a public school teacher for like 30 years and she would always tell me she would go to or try to go to the grocery store or maybe like a town over so she wouldn't run into people because she couldn't go grocery shopping without running into students and it wasn't like she was trying to avoid them or anything but she just wanted to live normally without people you know stopping her or whatever but I do feel with that being said I feel like people do watch teachers closely close yeah so

so my point in this is not that they can't go out and have a life like sure they should definitely be able to do that but this to me is just a little crossing the boundary I just there's so much to be said about all of it I don't I need to know what like what was going through her head when she did she accidentally make it I mean not no right I'm just curious she didn't accidentally do anything yeah she I mean her argument is that it was a former student it wasn't a current student so basically she didn't see what was wrong with it oh it the the person was a former student yes okay I thought you meant she was a former no at this school okay so she's a Catholic school teacher and she's having relations in a video with a former student yes the former student is how old do we

know we don't know but regardless it's a former student I don't know though if she's 23 and he's a former student he could be 23 well he's not going to be 23 when she's 23 because she couldn't have taught him oh okay okay okay okay okay the details are are making sense to me now okay so the former student is someone that she taught yes not just like they both went to the school and she is now teaching there yes there's no way former student that she taught she met him through teaching him and then later has a video on only fans with him yes got it there's no possible way kale that there could have they could both be 23 now okay got it anyhow um I just want to know what people think about that because to be perfectly honest if I've if I found out one of

Jackson's teachers had an only fans and had those types of photos out there I would feel very uncomfortable uh yeah I could see that I mean and maybe it's just because I'm a mom of a boy I don't know if girl moms would feel the same same way because it's maybe not I don't know know I would just love to know what people people think oh and ps the messages that I got about goodwill were so funny and I'm so glad that there are so many women that listen to this podcast that not only have husbands that are psychopaths that do this do the same thing go into goodwill but also women who are thrifters on here that like know how to do it I love seeing someone messaged me and they have like a thrifting like a secondhand store but it's like a I guess high

end secondhand store um and their stuff is so fucking cute and the store is so cute I don't remember what the store was called I wish I did um and it's a secondhand store it's not like a good will but it's a secondhand store and it's so cute so yesterday I told Will about all of these messages and I was like people are writing in and this one woman wrote in and said that Will needed to be careful okay this is the message she said Will better be careful with the goodwill employees I don't know about your goodwill but I live in Elton Maryland and our goodwill hires all the criminals will not hires but when the criminals have to do community service they can't work at the goodwill to get their community service hours done so she was like basically

Will shouldn't be going in the back because he doesn't know what he's coming across I guess is what she was saying um but with that being said I'm just like so dead the fact that Will would be brazen enough to just like walk in the back of a store like he owned the place yeah and then I was asking him yesterday like he needed to tell us how to shop at goodwill and he was like okay well you go to the men's section and you have t-shirts then you have polos then you have dress shirts then you have this and he was like I'm pretty sure the lady section is just um like pants and shirts and I'm like no I'm pretty sure like that stuff it it's not just like pants and shirts and there's all these categories for men's clothes but then he is dead set that they hide

golf clubs um I want to do a thrifting guide by Will like we need to offer a thrifting guide by Will like tips for thrifters or you know people who want to start thrifting we need tips from Will but we need to have people write in to also give us tips to add to this because Will's not like the professional okay he's not like a professional thrifter in my eyes because the kind of stuff that he gets honestly with this budgeting thing I'm willing to try it all like I'm willing to try to thrift I want to try new things so I think that we you know once the pandemic goes away we should go on a thrifting like either I come to Atlanta or you can come here close to Philly and we can go on a thrifting adventure and I think that we do that and then

this one woman said she worked at Goodwill and she sent me a message and was like I'm dying laughing at this I work at Goodwill but please tell Will don't come in the pack of goodwill yeah I mean come on Will I'm just like who told him that that was allowed like I don't know he told him he marches to the beat of his own drum like he did not care he was calling the shots that day he wanted his damn golf clubs like you couldn't tell him nothing this this is a regular occurrence apparently my throat has been like so dry kale no don't say that are you sick because you just tested for COVID you can't be sick no I'm not sick I just feel like I am lacking water and I've been to I've been trying to be more mindful when you when you drink your gulps are so loud but I don't

think people can hear them on the mic I think it's just you know I think you have like I think your throat is like a big throat really like big tonsils that's right we talked about this before didn't we yeah that you had big tonsils and you're gonna you were gonna get him out at some point and then you know time I never did I should do it now wait so I wanted to talk about something really quickly yesterday I got on my Instagram story there are actually two things I want to talk about yesterday I got one was that I got on my Instagram story and I was telling I'm so tired of being dragged about um going places during COVID and I got so I went and I did this rant on my story saying you know I get tested three times a

week anyone I come in contact with gets tested before they film with me you know whatever and I get this message and this I don't know if it was a guy or girl this person was like just because you get tested doesn't make you immune to COVID what no shit it doesn't make me immune to COVID I know that but at least if I'm getting tested literally every other day it's like Monday Wednesday Friday I would get if I if I was to get COVID again which I had it last year um if I was to get COVID again I would know right away I'd be able to quarantine right away I would like even if the symptoms didn't show up for three days I would still know you know what I mean like I guess it's just like extra precaution um so I just

wanted to say that and then secondly um we went to this place called Urban Air on Saturday and my friends were laughing because it was a husband and wife and the husband was laughing about when we talked about dads dressing their kids yes um and he was talking about how true it was and it was so funny because that day I didn't realize that Lincoln had and I was like this is what I get for talking shit about my kids dad's dressing them um Lincoln had on black sweatpants and like an army green top for football training on Saturday and I didn't think anything of it was fine and then he put his cleats on when we got there well I didn't realize and he's colorblind um so he had put on dark blue like navy blue shorts underneath and they had like a like a light blue stripe down

them and then he had the army green shirt on so I'm like okay this this is too much going on at training and was like you let him out of the house like that and I was like oh my god this is why I should never talk shit because here I am letting my kid out of the house but you know what Lincoln's colorblind and I just feel like I really try to let him thrive as much as he can like I don't ever want to like hurt his feelings about what he wears and he loves what he wears so I'm gonna let that one slide but I am I'm gonna not talk shit about them dressing their kids anymore I'm still gonna talk about it because okay when I see dads out whether it be the grocery store target whatever actually I saw a dad I'm trying to think where I was I was eating I'm always eating but I was

eating somewhere oh I was in the Mexican restaurant last night and I saw this dad sitting with his little girl and on the table it had like a naked baby doll just like sitting up and I was like what the heck is going on over there and this this child's like jumping around and whatever and you could tell the dad was just trying to survive right like he was just in complete and total survival mode he was you could tell he was like looking around like seeing if anybody saw what was going on and like it was one of those things you know like yeah he was probably embarrassed that like she was misbehaving and whatever and I'm just like but normally normal situations when I see dads one the kids are always dressed so weird but two most of the time everything seems pretty

easy when the dads are doing it like like it seems like it goes so much smoother when the dads are doing it than when if I had Jackson the grocery store he's trying to put 95 things in the car whatever guaranteed will has him in the grocery store he doesn't try to put one thing in the car without asking guaranteed so I just don't know is it because they're with their dads less in my situation because you know we're married and in the same household and I pretty much do the majority of things for Jackson like during will's working hours that I feel like he's with me so much that maybe I'm just not taken as seriously so he's more mindful of listening to will than he is to me I know that's not everyone's situations but I do feel like the dads have

a little bit more control on these little people yeah I don't that reminds me of an appointment that I went to a couple weeks ago and I had everything all squared away I had the stroller the diaper bag I just had the babies the older two were at school and like everything that could go wrong went wrong like there was no changing table Cree decided to shit his pants he then threw up on the floor and I almost like I was sitting sitting him on my lap and he like fell back I mean I caught I didn't drop him but like he like almost slipped out of my hands like everything that could go wrong went wrong and then fast forward a couple weeks later their dad took them somewhere and their dad did not have a diaper bag their dad did not have extra diapers no nothing

to this appointment nothing and I guarantee you well I know for a fact the baby didn't explode in his diaper because when I brought him back home to me there was no poop in there they seemed pretty fine he didn't have a bottle with him nothing Lindsay like when I tell you he literally took the kids and went to the appointment and came back like there was nothing with him no formula no bottles no nothing and I bet you everything was fine oh I guarantee you everything was fine and like I don't understand that I don't either I don't when Jackson was little and still in diapers I could take him somewhere and I swear he was like pissy patty he was always pissing always shitting always whatever but will can take him

somewhere and it's like everything just seems to be seemingly perfect you know and then you know you get the backlash of I don't know what you're talking about he was good for me you know he sat he they don't get it they don't get it I'm like you're not with that child like 24 sevens like I'm with him all the time when when I am awake he is awake when I am asleep he is asleep I also want to bring that's a thing I want to bring up is what time do people put their like seven eight year olds to bed because Jackson tells me that my bedtime is too early and it's 8 30 oh no I don't think that's too early at all and he swears that other people are staying up later but I'm like you're not in these other people's houses so how do you know if they're staying up later or not so

I don't know if they talk about this at school or whatever but 8 30 I feel like is a good bedtime but like we talked about before Jackson used to come out of his room so much and I felt like when I would put him to bed at 8 30 it was really like 10 because by the time he finished coming out of his room it was like around that time right but have you ever felt like in that phase of life I always felt like I never got a break like even if even if I was like in my bed it was always coming back out of his room he was always this it was like by the time I did get a break it was time for me to sleep yes that's literally how I felt last night Lux usually doesn't give me a huge like too long of a hard time to go to sleep but last night

he was just like not wanting to go to sleep which is weird because he didn't nap that day or that day he didn't nap yesterday and it was literally like 10 o'clock by time he actually fell asleep and I I don't know why because it was 8 30 when I put him to bed I was like all right it's time to bed go to bed we sang some songs we laughed we did whatever um and he just would he did not want to go to sleep he and I lay with Lux to go to sleep I don't unless um Lincoln's home if Lincoln's home sometimes I'm able to you know Lincoln's in his bed Lux is in his bed and then you know I'll go take a shower and I'll say you know I'm gonna go take a shower so like I'm still awake if you need me but I'm gonna go take a shower um but when Lincoln's not there he gets he's very upset

he loves Lincoln so much so he was crying a little bit you know I want Lincoln and then um I was like well he'll you know he'll be home soon or whatever but he did not want to go to sleep and I just felt like and then the dogs too like we talk about this all the time I felt like I felt bad even putting the dogs I have to I have to put Buddha up or he'll chew everything um so I have to put him up to go put Lux to bed because otherwise Buddha will chew things downstairs while I'm not watching him gizmos fine you know whatever but um and karma is always good so but Buddha is a chewer so I feel bad putting him up in the crate while I go put Lux to bed and then by time I'm done putting Lux to bed I'm ready for bed myself like I don't want to go back downstairs

and let the dogs out but it's so funny because I read this one thing a while ago but it was more like one of those like meme type things so it was like a long one and it was talking about how moms get to the point of being so tired but then they stay awake at night to just have the alone time without sleeping well I didn't have that last night because I was dealing with flying fucking squirrels so I didn't get that but typically I mean we don't have flying squirrels every day but like in a typical day or typical situation I feel like that is probably very common for mothers to just like want to lie awake at night so that you can be in your own thoughts by yourself without someone pulling on you or needing you for something or whatever and I know

probably people who still have their kids at home because of the pandemic or you're just doing you know you're choosing to do digital or you're required to do it it's always like you're doing something for someone else but not yourself right like I'm always fixing someone else a meal and then I'm by the time it gets time for me to eat something I'm like I can't even think of food like the thoughts of me thinking of food drive drives me nuts at this point I've cooked a quesadilla I've cooked pancakes I've cooked you know all of these things but I'm just like wow oh in other news can we talk about the Britney Spears news that came out yes okay let me pull it up because I know I sent it to you but you might have also seen it on your own and then I

want to talk about Kim Kardashian too um I don't know where the links are I thought I sent them to you well while you're doing that I saw this thing and it made me think of you and I wanted to tell you about it it is a girl sitting on a bed and she has this little sign and it's this sign says it ran in the family until it ran into me and it was just talking about like outgrowing and out learning habits of your family and like what you don't do to like or what you do do to stop the cycle and I was like wow that the other day um you did yeah well maybe not in the way that that is talking about but my family like the men in my family on my mom's side are very um and I love the men in my mom's in my mom's family like my grandfather my mom's brothers like

they're all I knew you know what I mean growing up so like I have a lot of respect for them um but as they would get older they became more um hermit like yes um like introverts yeah like they would stop coming to like family gatherings they just were anti social um and that was something I never understood growing up I was just like I would almost be like hurt or like angry by it um because that was like even though my mom had all of her issues like like as long as my great grandmother was alive like Thanksgiving and Christmas were staples in our house no matter how fucked up she was um and so like that was those were two things that I always looked forward to and um you know when my grandfather stopped coming my mom's older brother you know he

he was hit or miss um and then my mom's younger brother was like he was literally like I idolized him and my grandfather um but as we as I got older and you know my great grandmother died and stuff like they stopped coming to family functions when we moved them to my aunt's house and um I was thinking about how I've kind of turned into that right like I don't want to celebrate holidays anymore like I'm just like not into it I'm like the Grinch um but I hope that maybe like one day when I'm in a committed like relationship slash marriage like maybe I would want to go celebrate those things with like their family right right but like I wonder like what the reasoning is behind the like hermit type of behaviors I don't know because I feel like Will's family is kind of like

that like they're all kind of like do your own type thing um I don't know and I don't know if it's just like when you get older that you just establish your own sense of like this is what I want to do and so as a child it's more of like a forced thing so you just adapt to right whatever the tradition is if that makes sense but then yeah as an adult you you know you have the right to be able to say okay well you know this works for me but this doesn't work for me or this is important to me and or this isn't important to me there's plenty of things that we all have done as a child that it was because it was kind of forced upon us that we don't carry into adulthood or we maybe not even intentionally change those habits or those things that we did as a kid because

those things weren't a choice for us right yeah I mean that's a good point I don't know if that's like if there's like more of an in-depth like deep rooted reason why I become less social um as I get older or if that's like I don't know but yeah I mean definitely other things in my family as far as like my mom goes um I don't want to it it ran until it ran into me so yes but I did I found the links for the Britney Spears stuff so oh tell me Variety.com reported that the Britney Spears hearing that most recently occurred the judge overrules father's objections to joint conservatorship order and in this article they basically talk about it said that a probate judge on Thursday overruled Jamie Spears objection to an to an order establishing the conservator oh I guess it was

he was trying to have Bessemer Trust Company as a co-conservator of the daughter of his daughter's estate um but I guess Bessemer Trust Company is the conservator is that right it's an objections to order establishing okay so Britney Spears' father is arguing against the the other conservator yes I don't think he wanted it I think he wanted it to be a sole conservatorship meaning he had sole control and that there wouldn't be shared power well the judge ruled I guess in the co-conservatorship his favor yes um and then there was something else that came up I know her boyfriend speak spoke out um and said that Jamie's a dick and he hopes to one day get along but he needs to basically treat Britney better so I love that he's stuck up for Britney I feel like she needs that

um and then also wanted to read this are you gonna read the Justin Timberlake thing I was gonna say Justin Timberlake spoke out and before you even read it I it almost pissed me off I'm gonna read it for those of you who didn't see it I've seen the messages tags comments concerns and I want to respond I am deeply sorry for the times in my life where my actions contributed to the problem where I spoke out of turn or did not speak up for what was right I understand that I fell short in these moments and many others and benefited from a system that condones how do you say that misogyny oh yeah misogyny and racism I specifically want to apologize to Britney Spears and Janet Jackson both individually because I care for and respect these women and know I failed

I also feel compelled to respond in part because everyone involved deserves better and most importantly because this is a larger conversation that I wholeheartedly want to be a part of and grow from the industry is flawed it sets men especially white men up for success it is designed this way a man in a privileged position I have to be vocal about this because of my ignorance I didn't recognize it for all it was and while it was happening in my own life but I do not I do not want to ever benefit from others being pulled down again I have not been perfect in navigating all of this throughout my career I know this apology is a first step and doesn't absolve the past I want to take accountability for my own missteps and in all of this as well as being part of a

world that uplifts and supports I care deeply about the well-being and people I love and have loved I can do better and will do better I have a lot of thoughts about this I have a lot of thoughts too my first thought is because we do live in a cancel culture that I feel like until he started getting the public heat this apology should have come a long time ago right and until he started getting backlash publicly as a white privileged man now there's this PR statement that is released that is a perfectly crafted PR statement that he is sorry and understands the advantages in the industry that he has but you understood that likely when all of this was going on so that apology is it's not like he you know made a comment about something it's not that he

you know that he was ignorant in something that he said he truly had a hand like a first hand in the the trauma I guess I would call it that Britney Spears went through like he he benefited off of her struggle you know like this should have this you're right the fact that this was a perfectly crafted and that's exactly what it was um PR statement it wasn't genuine because if it was genuine it would have came years ago and it would have been directly to Britney and it would have been like oh my gosh look at what I I helped happen and you that apology is never going to give Britney Spears her mental health or um you know I don't even know what to call it back again she's never she's never gonna be the same person before all of this

and it's always funny to me that people are apologetic when they're caught right like when you have when the masses are coming after you that's when you're sorry and again we live in a cancel culture and do I agree with all of the canceling you can't if you breathe the wrong way somebody's gonna cancel you so right right but in this specific situation the benefiting was he he basically expired the benefit and then once that came and then he got called out on it and people probably started coming for him then all of a sudden there's this perfectly crafted PR statement that is posted on Instagram I'm sorry but that's a no for me yeah I agree I'm glad that we feel the same way on this it's not like he not like he spoke out of ignorance or you know

had a bad interview it was like truly like benefiting and I don't know I feel like all the things that he was saying and he had a part in it maybe he didn't realize how it would affect her but at the same time it was like your apology is coming literally over 10 years later right this wasn't ignorance this wasn't you know this was now you're being called out and people god people are just ruthless but people were on Instagram making memes about you know basically Justin being a bad person and that you know he had some type of like a fair scandal last year or something and he was non-apologetic for that and then you know not apologetic for the part that he played in with Britney and now that you know basically that documentary

painted him in my opinion in a bad light anyone watching that is gonna think a different way about him they didn't even give him a whole lot of airtime it was only like a couple minutes I know about him and so imagine if they really went into it imagine if they played more interviews where they're asking him flat out did you fuck Britney Spears and and he doesn't deny or say you know you know she's a woman she deserves to have her privacy and things like that or you know I'm not gonna comment on that or you know don't ask me questions like that you know how many interviews did he do about it how many you know his whole cry me a river song was supposed to be like wasn't that the first song that he came out with um after their broke their breakup wasn't that one of the

first ones that makes it even worse if that's true that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying I mean he he really used her and and you know her pain and her struggle and all of this like media you know losing her mind going through all of this as a way to jumpstart his solo career in my opinion well absolutely and I want to make another point too that men out here it's funny to me how men try to shame women for the things that they do because it's just a total double standard yes and I hate it it's not a man's right to go out here and talk the way that I've experienced it obviously Britney Spears experienced it to like a level that is like unimaginable like in an alternate universe or

something um I know that you've experienced it it's not normal to me that the men out here that are talking about women in this way should be canceled agreed and what gives them the right to go out here and talk about oh well this person slept with this person slept with this person who told them that was okay wait time out can I comment on the fact that he also apologized to that um in that to Janet Jackson oh I know why didn't why didn't that get its own separate that's why again I said it's like a blanket PR statement he covered all bases and one statement issued and then you know that's it on his Instagram I need to go on his Instagram right now is he still married to Jessica Buell yeah and I never was a Justin Timberlake

fan me neither so it doesn't change anything from you know I mean it wasn't like oh I was this big Justin Timberlake fan and now now I really think badly about him no like I never really liked Justin Timberlake in the first place but I even like him less now someone commented on his statement and said no matter what anyone says it's never too late to say sorry or change okay but this one the damage is done the damage cannot be undone this is not something that we can forgive and move on Brittany is a completely different fucking person and he had a single hand in that like they're I just can't like I can't this and then someone says really beautiful to read I think it's going to speak to a lot of people's pain I can't wait to see you get involved

with elevating women and marginalized people you're an inspiring dude to me I'm not people praising this you and they're all these are verified comments like if you're in the industry you know that there is PR statements made every day and especially to Justin Timberlake's level of celebrity you know what I mean yes and I just want to say the verified accounts that are that are on there with you know much respect I love you you're human you're human growth much 10 years 15 years later you're growing because you're being forced to grow because we live in a cancel culture and because people are now seeing things for what for face value oh someone people are calling him out it took you 17 years for this and then someone else this has 20 000 likes it's just so painfully

obvious that the only reason this apology is here is because of the documentary where have you been for 17 years at least it's a start but I hope you apologize to Brittany and Janet privately and then someone said Alexa play too little too late by Jojo and then someone said don't be shy be more specific and then who Evan Ross cats I want to who is that Evan Ross crab Evan Ross cats said be more specific and that has 18 000 likes um someone said I hope you're reaching out to them personally too and not just doing this as a PR stunt I mean people are coming from him coming for him um somebody says this response is frustrating saying I benefited from a system that perpetuates misogyny is not the same as saying I was misogynistic in a career I created for myself at the expense

of these women the vilification of Brittany and Janet didn't just happen because you remain silent you took part in that and that's why you should probably acknowledge and do so and do so specifically I agree with that 100 percent well I agree with that also and the fact that this is all played out so publicly the Free Brittany movement so on and so forth the public has seen her struggle over the years why whether he whatever happened between them whatever be a decent human being you don't have to like everybody but be a decent human being this was all the entire thing was for him to elevate himself at the expense of whomever I'm kind of blown away like I feel like this is just it's insane comments while we're talking yeah someone else said you could have voluntarily

made this statement at any point in the last 15 years but didn't it's sad that it took a plethora of messages comments etc in the wake of the framing Brittany release for such a statement to come it's hard to not fake not take this with a grain of salt it's hard to not perceive this as just an attempt to stop the public criticisms that's really sad and I agree with all of the comments and he says I love you as the care someone said I love you in the caption like I'm sorry but I don't know how anyone could think that this is all it's going to take and now he'll probably be in all kinds of campaigns to uplift women and mental health um you know advocating for mental health and getting help and all of that stuff but I just I don't buy it I'm not with it I agree um I have to read this

message to you though because I loved it and it was specifically to you oh god it says this is a long shot but I listen to your podcast all the time and I love it I know kale grew up in a not so traditional way and I came from a similar background one thing that I find myself struggling with is an adult um with a child is not knowing basic things for example I never had a coat I had hoodies growing up but never really understood the different types of jackets coats and how and when they should be worn I'm doing my research and want to ensure that I'm informed enough to pass knowledge to my children but I was wondering if you guys could do a small segment on things like this for people to be able to grow I grew up in a not so traditional way and I could learn and grow from

this oh I love that okay and I just wanted to know your thoughts because I feel like you as a child definitely grew up very different from me and like did your mom teach you these things like you don't like you wear a coat for this occasion but like a hoodie would be acceptable for this occasion does that make sense correct yeah no my mom it's hard because when I describe my mom like I know that she probably thought that she was teaching me things but really I knew from other peers you know like about a coat or a hoodie or um whatever um that's hard yeah I don't she definitely didn't like say oh you need a coat to go outside or anything it was just like I knew because of

other people right um I just thought so interesting box mac and cheese see I think I learned from the box I I get frustrated when people talk shit about me and like cooking and like not saying I can't learn how to do all these things and I am learning every day how to cook like I I'm that's one thing that I I just want to cook meals but when people talk shit um you know up until this point like from seeing the show and stuff like that I'm like you guys are I became a mom and had to learn how to like actually cook and like do really domesticated things on my own without ever having that as an example ever in 17 years prior to being on the show so I you know my mom would leave me at home for days with processed food and I didn't

know how to use an oven I don't even think she had like chicken nuggets it was like um mac and cheese and then like junk you know what I mean like there was never ever like I never grew up in like nutritious food at the house things like that and then same for like a coat it was like if I had a coat it was cool but like if not I wore a hoodie like it was just or I actually wore the same outfit all the time and see you were saying that you get frustrated and I know that that's a frustrating thing for you because you weren't taught how to cook so these are all things that you're learning on your own and I think coming from a household that was very different in my raising that that was something that was definitely taught and definitely encouraged

in how to do that and I didn't really have an interest but I guess you don't realize the benefits in having someone teach you right how to do those things I guess if that makes sense yes um I guess you just take that for granted a little bit because you think everybody is doing that and the know more grown that I have become the more I know that there's certain things that went on in my childhood good and bad the other people didn't have right but I learned like decent life skills I guess right where I didn't so when I became a mom I'm learning life skills on top of everyday life and then also becoming a teen parent it was like I now have to learn how to do like pay rent I didn't you know what I mean like pay rent um get on food

stamps um you know not that I didn't know what clothing was appropriate at that point because I think that my my friends that I was friends with in high school really helped um their parents helped me um just throughout and I moved around a lot so it was that was a huge a huge thing for me but I was learning how to do all of those things at one time so I mean I even still now read the comments like you don't feed your kids anything but junk and it's like no I mean during filming because it's quick and you guys don't understand like what goes into production and stuff so like I'll quickly make a box of mac and cheese like yeah sometimes um but overall like I'm trying to do still trying to learn life skills um and like I try to tell on one hand though I will tell you

as far as like the coat thing goes um I'm a I'm a huge believer in natural consequences now um not now but just in general so like if Lux is like I don't want to wear a coat I'm like okay well I'm gonna bring it and he knows that he needs to wear a coat if it's cold outside but sometimes it takes him going outside in the cold to realize oh wow it's cold I should use my coat um but he'll know you know maybe for the spring time if you want to go outside and play like a hoodie is appropriate or acceptable um is that is that what she means I think so I think just like basically normal things that I guess parents would teach you like I can tell you I was definitely tall these are the types of clothes you wear for these occasions and these are the

types of clothes that you wear for those occasions right and like you wouldn't wear a sweatsuit to church or you like you wouldn't you know I'm talking about so I think like that and I it's it's crazy because someone like me who had it growing up I guess didn't think twice about it because I just my parents taught me that right but I do think it's probably a teaching thing I I maybe didn't even realize that it was a teaching thing until I read that message but then I think about when I get Jackson ready for stuff and he wants to wear I don't know like shorts and it's 20 degrees outside there's definitely a teaching moment in that where I'm like okay you're putting on shorts that's summer attire that's something

that you wear when it's like 60 or above right so it's definitely something I'm teaching mine but I didn't I didn't really think of it until I read that message and was like oh that is like a taught skill yeah I definitely can relate to her in that aspect I feel like in in households like the ones that we grew up in it was just like assumed like you just do it you just are expected to just like get through the day to day life with the bare minimum and not really ask questions and not really realize that this probably isn't normal um yeah I don't yeah it's what a weird way like I'm thinking about it now and it's like yeah I don't ever remember like being taught things you know what I mean yeah I mean I knew that your answer was probably gonna be this but

I just wanted to hear what you would say um on a on a last note I want to know how many people that listened to us are introverted or extroverted because it was very interesting Kale and I did a thing on both of our instagrams where we answer these questions like if we were a morning person or a night person introverted or extroverted what were the other questions Kale um favorite food night owl or morning person um favorite season I think yep and then zodiac sign sign and it was interesting Kale and I both answered introverted so I would be very interested to know how many people that listen to us consider themselves an extrovert or an introvert um because I think that that like speaks a lot about a person when Kale and I go on business

trips or whatever you can tell that we are both introverted because we both become recluses like she goes to her area and I go to my area but it's just like an unsaid like it's not a rude thing it's just like a I'm going to my space you're going to your space where like I'll text you from the room I'm in kind of thing yeah and it's just like weird that we're both that we're both like that but extroverts I feel like they want to be around people all the time and it's always you know I don't know like sometimes I wish I was more like that I just don't have it in me and the older that I become the more introverted I become I I just said that I said that especially for like holidays and stuff like I don't want to be around the hype and the group gatherings for holiday like

I just don't want to but to your point I know I've said on the podcast not that long ago like I'm also the type of person that would love to like when my friend Mark and Alana they came this weekend um I'm also perfectly okay with them staying in my guest room and me not having to entertain them but knowing that they're in the house like I'm good with that I'm okay with that I love that like I love that they are comfortable and can you know entertain themselves and get themselves a glass of water like um I also love that but that's that kind of goes with like my introvertedness is like I want the company but I don't necessarily want to entertain the entire time yes I 1000% agree um oh wow looks like we're over time way over our time way over our time um okay I

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