Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 146: Telling His Side, Wanting To Be Shown, & Investing In A Food Truck with Devoin Austin

Episode Date: February 25, 2021

This week Kail and Lindsie are joined by Teen Mom's Devoin Austin who is ready to talk about his experience with Teen Mom. Devoin tells his side of the story with his ex Briana, and sets some things straight about how he has been portrayed in the past. Plus Kail and Lindsie give him advice on how to handle some tough situations he faces with co-parenting. And will Kail and Lindsie be investing in Devoin's food truck? Only time will tell! This episode was sponsored by: Minted, Jenni Kayne, Hello Bello, & Ana Luisa Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Alright you guys, we're recording and welcome to another episode of Coffee Combo's podcast and we have a guest today, we're going to get right into it, and it's Devoyne, not Devon. Devoyne correct. Okay, alright, so before we get started, why do people think that your name is Devon? Well, I kind of take blame for that personally, I just really don't, I never really corrected people for that, but I don't know, growing up, like even after correcting all the teachers that taught me, like they never got it right.

Okay, so it wasn't a Brianna thing. It wasn't a Brianna thing. Got it, okay. Definitely not her, it's not her fault. Okay, cool. So I thought it was Devon. Yeah, but it's called Devoyne. Here most people say it.

It's literally, it's pronounced how it looks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a city actually called Devoyne, in Iowa, that I'm named after. Okay, got it. It's not spelled D-E-S-S-M-O-I-N-E, it's as a morning, but it's pronounced Devoyne. Devoyne, right, okay, makes sense. So how was your ride in? Oh man, it was pretty good.

Yeah, it was good. It was pretty good, yeah. Okay, good. And you brought your girlfriend, but she's not here with us today. She's not here with us. Okay, so while she was, well, she can come hang out with us if you want. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so before we get into all of this stuff, there was some stuff that I saw on the internet

that you know I have to bring up. Let's do it. Okay, so we were on Instagram and I had sent it to Lindsay that I guess Brianna was upset about you not showing up for Nova, like you were like an hour late or something. What is your side of that? Well, I mean, that's not something for anybody to pick sides at the end of the day. I know what I'm saying, like what was your count of events? Well, okay, this is what happened, like for the record, what happened was I just got back

from a trip. I was in Miami for my boy's birthday. We had just got back that same day and besides the fact, Brianna had basically took that responsibility away from me. Like she said, okay, now I have time, I'm not working my job, so I can pick her up. I don't need you to do it anymore. So we've been going through that for like a couple of weeks and then I get back from Miami and she texts me asking me if I could pick her up and take her to practice, not

pick her up, but I mean, not pick her up after, but just drop her off to practice. I'm like, okay, of course, no problem. So I pick her up and as I pick her up, she comes out like peek out the door and ask me, hey, can you pick her up after practice as well? I mean, I wasn't what she originally asked me to do, but it wasn't a problem. So I'll say, yeah, of course, whatever, I'm not doing nothing. And boom, I drop her off and then time comes around where she's getting out of practice and maybe 30 minutes to 45 minutes before that a friend of mine had caught a flat tire

and he needed me to come help him because he didn't have a jack. So I'll go to help him with that. And I definitely forgot that I was supposed to pick her up. Yes, I did. I mean, I forgot. It wasn't like I was just sitting around on my ass watching TV and my kids at practice. But I took, I actually offered help to someone when I had something else I needed to be doing. So I was kind of out of pocket for that.

But it wasn't like I just up and forgot her and was just having a good time and it was a simple mistake. I feel like it wasn't nothing to be, you know, put out to the world. I definitely think that Lindsay and I have talked about like social media coming in to play with custody battles or parents that don't get along. And it's just one of those things where we all just need to do better. Correct. Correct.

And I'm pretty guilty as well when it comes to social media shit, I'm not going to lie. I'd be out of pocket sometimes for sure. Yeah. I've been there. I watch it play out because I don't live that same type of scenario and I watch it play out and I'm just like that. Why can this just not be a text thread between two people and have it out and it never reach social media.

And we had this conversation what yesterday or the day before yesterday and Kale made a good point that you almost feel she's been in those situations where you almost feel like you need to defend yourself for whatever reason to the public. Well, I mean, like I say, I have one platform where y'all get to hear some of my words. You know what I mean? Like this girl done been on Good Morning America, but it's all kind of you Google my name is just articles, Brianna, like she's up here and I'm just down there. Like that's just the fact that it mattered.

Like at some point you got to defend yourself. Right. You should acquire for so long. Like you've seen me at reunions. I don't cause too much drama. I stay in my place. We've always been friendly and cool and I've never actually one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on was because of the reunion after it aired.

I think that people felt as if you were kind of shut out. So like you weren't allowed to finish what you wanted to say. They didn't show everything down. So then we were overwhelmed with messages asking to have you on and to kind of just give you a platform to kind of say what you want to say. And also I feel like a lot of our listeners and our viewers of Teen Mom 2 don't know who you are. That's a fact.

They don't. And so I didn't really think that that was fair. Yeah. They definitely, I feel like they don't really know who I am. I recently started a YouTube channel and I'm still trying to get like the grasp of editing videos and stuff like that. That's just pretty difficult. Yeah.

No. And it's time consuming. You can't just pick up a MacBook and put a good video out there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm trying to figure that out. Who is Devoyne?

You're from Florida? No. Where did you go? I'm from Michigan. You're from Michigan. Lansing, Michigan. Okay. So how did you end up meeting Brianna and what is the whole story behind that?

Now me and Brianna met, I mean, everyone pretty much see how she meets her dudes. I met her on the same, same type of situation. I met her on social media. We were in high school. I was maybe a grade, two grades above her. I want to say I was a senior. She was in the 10th grade. I was going to my senior year actually.

She was going to the 10th grade. And I met her on Twitter. We were flirting here and there and you know, we ended up meeting each other and next school year we started dating and boom, I'm going to say maybe four months into dating. She's pregnant. And what was that process like for you? Well, that whole situation right there, let me tell you, my mama pointed out that she was pregnant before she was even showing a little bit.

I guess she just, a mama just knows. Yeah. A mother's intuition. A mother just knows. She called it out to me and my sister and I'm like, in my mind, I knew she was pregnant because I knew what I did, but it was not obvious, you know, it was so far from obvious. Like what's that? She kind of threw me off.

So she calls that out like, is she pregnant and boom, boom, boom, eventually it gets put out there. And originally Roxanne wanted her to abort the baby. I don't know if y'all remember that from 16 and pregnant, but I didn't actually see her episode of 16 and pregnant, but I did see, or maybe I, did she have really, really short hair at the time? Yeah. Or no, I think I saw, I saw something where I kind of resonated with the story.

It was a scene of her and her sister talking and I want to say Brittany had an abortion. Is this right? Does anyone know? I don't want to put things out there that are not true. I'm pretty sure everybody in the house had one, except for Nova. There was a conversation where Brianna was keeping the baby and I'm assuming that was Nova. Okay.

So she wasn't going to keep the baby or that was just something that you guys, they were both pregnant at the same time. Yes, you are right. Okay. That just came back to my mind, but they were both pregnant and Brittany did go through with their abortion and Brianna didn't. Right. Okay.

That's how they ended up with Nova. Okay. And then, so you were on board with, you know, helping raise the baby and all of that. Absolutely. Now, don't get me wrong. When she was pregnant, we were definitely, you know, I definitely didn't grasp the fact that yeah, we're not together, but it's still your kid. You have to do your, have to do your shit at the end of the day.

Yeah. So I was just immature back then. So we used to argue and say, we're fighting. We're not together. Yeah. She's pregnant. The baby's in her belly. I'm not texting her and talking to her all day every day because I don't care about that

girl. She's not my girlfriend no more. That's the type of shit I was on, which was definitely out of pocket, you know, but that's what it was. Right. I can't, but that doesn't also make me a bad dad. Like I was titled a bad dad before Nova even came out. Okay.

And then you guys at some point, the baby is born. You have Nova and you guys are co-parenting up until this point and it's just kind of been rocky. It's been rocky since before she was even born. Yeah. A couple of seasons ago on team mom, didn't you guys all live together, but you guys weren't together? We're together.

I lived with them, I want to say 2017. I lived with them for two months. How was that? What was that like? That was, that was a blessing. Like it felt great being there, seeing Nova waking up to Nova, going to sleep to Nova. And that's, that's really how I got so close to Stella. Okay.

I did want to ask about that. That's, that's where the relationship really came. Okay. So what has that relationship been like? Because I, I only obviously know what I see on the show, but what has that been like kind of being a role model for Stella? Man, that's awesome. Believe it or not, I walk into the door, she beats Nova to me.

Oh. Like that's where I can't make this up. There was definitely a scene where I saw that she didn't, that she, she loved you. How does that feel? I mean, it's great. That's just that second nature to me, like go back to meeting me, like growing up, I was, you know, raised by a single mother. My mom was by herself and I have three sisters.

Now me and my older sister, we got the same father, two younger sisters, two different dads. However, those girls call my dad, dad for life. That's all they ever done is call him dad, nobody else's dad to them. You know, so I'm just, that's how I was raised. Like my dad treats them kids like they're his, and he tells people that those are my daughters. Right.

They're not his blood at all. Yeah. He's like, put it like this. My daughter, my little sister, she just turned 21. My other one's only 19 and me and my older sister, we've been at the house, I'm 28. I mean, I'm about to be 29. I've been at the house for over 10 years, 11 years now and my dad still be around them. I don't talk to my mom every day or see her every day, but my dad be over there with them

girls. Like his kids is done. My other sister's older to me. Right. Like we're done, but he's still over there with my mom. Right. And we're not together. You're not fooling around.

None of that. Like strictly family. So that's, you're kind of just doing exactly what you had growing up with her. Pretty much. Yeah. Like my dad didn't look for no trophy or no medals for doing that for them girls. That's just how you did it. Like, how you going?

So does that, when you are having like a rough time with Rihanna and Nova, that's what I was going to ask. Does that affect your relationship with Stella? Not at all. Not at all. I felt like, you know, over the past few weeks, we've been kind of going at it head to head on the internet. So I kind of felt like, like maybe she been telling Stella, like, yeah, that's not your

dad. He like, like, because she calls me dad, like, I don't know if she just like, oh, wow. I don't know if she's like, just repeating after Nova and the, like, he's in a moment. Like, no, he's like, daddy, daddy. She's like, daddy, daddy. Like right after her. And it's like, I'm just sitting there like, you know, I mean, I would never like, I mean, like, she doesn't know any different probably.

She sees Nova doing it. I know. I feel like in three years when she's, you know, a little more established and understanding what she's saying, I don't think she's going to be yelling daddy like that. But right now, I feel like. And maybe she will. You know what I mean? Maybe she will.

You never know. And she might just be watching what Nova is doing and just thinking that it's the same for her. Like she's probably too young to really understand the situation and her dad's not in the picture at all. Right. Now that's something I don't know. I'm just leaving it to leave it to fucking Briana and them at the reunion.

They was saying Louis stepped up like he's going to start in the fifth day when they was dawgging me. They was saying, like, Louis is there Louis is sending me money, blah, blah, blah, but I ain't never in my life pulled up and seen him walk out that door. Can't wait. Ever. Can we talk about. Wait, I gotta say this really quick.

So when I watched the scenes play out on Teen Mom when you were living with them, I don't know why it felt like it was for a long period of time. And maybe it was just because that's what the show had captured. I mean, you know, did it seem like that? It was literally all of maybe 60 to 80 days. And over that time I was working at TGI Fridays as a server.

So I'm getting out at 2 a.m. We close at 2, I might get home three. And it's like, damn, okay, I'm home at 3 a.m. I'm about to go to sleep. 5, 26 a.m. cellars up in the living room, like right where I'm sleeping. So I really didn't get no sleep. And it got to the point where I guess Brianna

was getting kind of annoyed with me coming in late. But I had to respect that. So she kind of gave me like, okay, you got a couple of weeks and you got to go. And I was actually saving a sack in my money. So when the time came, I bought my apartment. I mean, like she did me a very good solid though for sure. Like she looked out for me.

Like that was a very good deed of her. And I'm thankful for that. It's so weird, I guess, because I feel like there's so many periods of time where you guys have potential to do really, really well. And then the internet kind of gets in the way. You feel the same or no? Just that they know.

Like I feel like I don't say the most disrespectful things about her on the internet. And I mean, when I go see her though, I feel like she knows, she done did so much shit about me, did so much things to me. Like when Nova was first born, they said on national television,

I want to play basketball. Dude, I was downstairs in the hospital. They made me, they drew animated me and I jumped out the window like a fucking lunatic. Like a young black guy going to play basketball when his daughter was born. That's what happened to me. And literally what happened was,

I came into the hospital room where she gave birth and I was there watching Nova come out. I seen it all go down. And then Roxanne tells me, okay, you guys been here for quite a while. You should go change clothes. You know, I've been there for them since yesterday. They should go take a shower, change your clothes,

clean up, come back, get something to eat. And I come back, I really just went downstairs to the cafeteria, came back upstairs. Maybe 30 minutes later I asked her, did the lady for the birth certificate come yet? And Roxanne asked me, why? I just kind of spassed. What the fuck do you mean why?

Meaning that they already signed it. My name's not on it. Yeah, she came already, but she asked me why. And I got pissed and they called security on me and I went downstairs until my family came and they went up there and talked to her. I don't even know what they talked about. But I was just so pissed.

Did this all play out on the show? No, we recorded like personal footage, like, they weren't there in the hospital, no. But they showed, what the show show was, Nova was born, her dad went to go play basketball with his friends. Brianna, Brianna, I approached her about that shit. I like, how could you do that?

She used her own voice and said, Nova was born and Devon, incorrect pronunciation, went to play basketball, like what? So it was like, from day one, I never stood a chance to be a good dad, like that was, my story was written. Right, the narrative was already in place. My story has been written, for sure, they tried. And that's why I just recently started speaking up.

And I mean, we're both mothers, so I think that, you know, certain things we understand from a perspective of a mom and it's nice to hear dad's perspective that's in the situation. And I can't imagine how isolating that situation would have been for you when they are such powerful women, like three powerful women in a situation that you guys might not have necessarily wanted to be in.

And then you're put in that situation. I can't imagine how lonely that would have felt. I've got some pretty good friends though, like, that's been there, like most of my friends are fathers too. We're all the same age, all got kids. It's like, and I know, nothing against my dogs, but some of them are worse than me, like they're worse people than me.

I'm not the most perfect person, no. But just seeing how freely their baby mothers gave them their kids is like, what the fuck is wrong with me? Like, am I, I'm not a felon. I ain't got nothing on my record. Like, what, why won't you just throw her at me? Like, you should just throw her at me. Have you all ever had a legal custody agreement?

She took me to court one time. And what was the outcome of that? Man, she had a lawyer and I walked in there with my dad and mom and it was like, she tried to get a restraining order on me in the court, in the courthouse, and I just walked in there and let my case, and they dropped my charges. So do you feel like that's something

that you could do moving forward, like filing for custody where it's, you have your set days? That's exactly, that's my exact plan. Like, up until this year, I'm about to move out. So I've had a roommate for the past three years, and she used that excuse like, Nova's not that comfortable around your roommate,

but in reality, Nova said, I would leave Nova in the house with my roommate. That's like a brother to me. They have a very good bond. She goes and talks to him when she's home. Is it someone that Breanna knows? Yeah, she knows. She knew him before she had a baby.

She knew him before, she probably knew him before she knew me. Okay, I was just speaking from a mother's perspective, if that was, I've been in that situation, where one of my children's dads had roommates, but I knew them. And so it was one of those things where I felt like I couldn't, it's not like I couldn't,

I wasn't gonna allow him to see his son because of his roommates. You know what I mean? But that's also another, going back to how I grew up. My mother, she ain't never let us spend the night over. Nobody's house. If there's a man in the house, my three sisters never spent the night.

That's just not happening. I don't know if anything happened to her when she grew up. I don't know, that's just not happening. I grew up like that too. And I don't blame, that's okay. I don't blame her for protecting Nova for sure. But it's not like, you know, you can't trust me. Like I live with this guy.

I'm not trying to put Nova in danger either. I definitely for sure feel safe for my kid around who I live with right now. Right, and I guess as a parent, it's our job to, we should be able to trust the other parent, you know? Like with their- I agree, but I don't think that she,

I think she's valid and, you know, feeling however she feels about it. I mean, you don't know her life experiences, you know? So we don't know. But with that being said, like you said, you trust your roommate. Let's go say. This is also something, let me like,

Brianna dated a friend of mine. Somebody who I consider a friend, you know what I mean? She dated the guy. After, after I went to jail for a couple of months, she dated him, I come out there dating. I thought you said you didn't have anything on your record. Not nothing crazy, a little weed. Oh, okay.

A little weed, nothing crazy. I just bought a gun actually last week. I'm pretty legal. Okay, I was just clarifying, I was just clarifying. You said there was something on your record and then you went to jail, so I just had to. But that, yeah, that's nothing, that's misdemeanor. Misdemeanor is nothing, it ain't stopped me from nothing.

Not that you should get those, but yeah. But anyway, back to what the hell was I talking about? You said she dated somebody. She dated somebody who's a friend of mine, but he's the worst person to me. And I had my daughter come up to me one day and asked me, do I know this person? I'm not gonna say his name,

but she came up to me and asked me, hey, do you know blah, blah, blah? I'm like, dude, this nigga's a straight thug, like real divine on the streets. I mean, felon at that. This was Brianna's man. And you got her around him, but she was very worried about who I'm gonna bring around my kid.

So you feel like it's a double standard more than anything for you? Yeah, and then a month later, she got a sex tape put out by the guy. Oh, I know who you're talking to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what she got herself into. Okay. So moving forward, what can you do, do you think,

to kind of better the situation and make it better? Can we stay off the internet? Can we, or we have a file for custody, at least to have, like you're said to, or could you do something in writing where you don't have to go to court? Well, that goes back to like, my lease is about to be up in two months.

And I'm about to move out, no longer gonna have a roommate. So if you're still throwing that whole, what is there to throw at me now? I have my own place, and I am who I am. Like, what is you gonna say now? Like, there's nothing to hold her away from. Right.

Like I don't have that roommate. That was your excuse. Yes, I commend you for that. I can't take that, I can't knock you for that. Now I don't have a roommate. If there is an issue, we will be in court. Right. For sure, like, guaranteed.

And then when the show comes into play, what does that look like? Do you ever feel like you, like, do they ever film you with Nova? Never. Never. Never. Me and my girl went to the zoo,

like last year with Nova, it was pretty awesome. It's like, it'd just be like, if they're around, they know I'm doing something with Nova. They wanna come and record it. You know that's not natural. Your piece isn't the same. Nothing against the crew, you guys are awesome. But when you're doing shit without the cameras

and shit rolling, it's more natural and it's lit. Now when you guys wanna come and roll, and it's just not gonna be the same. Like my kid's not acting normal. I'm not acting normal, like I'm being recorded. I don't make sure I'm on my... Peas and cues. Peas and cues.

It's like, y'all wanna come disturb all my time with her, but don't even hear the shit. How fair is that? Like, damn, there are seven out of 10 things I do with Nova. They wanna record it, but they might show one out of 10. Maybe. Maybe. They don't show, they definitely don't show me

with Nova at all. Like right now, shit, they're in town right now, recording them. When I have Nova, they don't be there. They were Breonna doing whatever the fuck in Miami getting a butt lift. They're not recording me. Hey, we're not gonna knock the plastic surgery over here.

Ain't none of the game. Ain't none of the game. If I can get some abs and muscles, I'll do it myself. Be real. But I'm just saying, I'm over here spending quality time with her and they're in Miami with Breonna. What's more important for the show?

Right. It definitely is. I'm literally with my child, which she needs to be done. Right. And she's in Miami. And that's, they're gonna somehow show her in a better light to me.

They gonna probably show back at home, Roxanne, doing this that in the fifth, where was I? I love that he says this that in the fifth. I say this that in the third. That's like mine, this that in the third. Yeah. He's this that in the fifth. Yeah.

Um, y'all are funny. No, so I guess when I've watched Breonna's segment and even yours too, the dads really aren't shown a whole lot. I beg to differ. I beg to differ. I feel like on my, when my segments are aired, there have been plenty of times where they've shown,

you know, my kids' dads with their significant others. And I'm nowhere in, I'm not being filmed. Do you know what I'm saying? Like it's their, It's like their scene. Are there whatever. I don't know that you've ever had very many of those. I ain't no being, I ain't no being devoid.

There's been a, there's been a being Brittany. There's been a being hobby. Why the fuck is there? Why was there being Brittany before being me? So you've never had a special? It is shit ever. Never, nothing. Have you been offered a special thing?

This is the most special thing I've ever done. The most. Oh. Thank you guys. We have a gift bag for you as well. So we'll send you them. We'll send you with one for your girlfriend as well. This is literally some special thing I've done.

Have you brought that to their attention that you wanted to do a being special? Or that maybe they could. I told them. I definitely told them. Like, yeah. People will always tell me, they want to know me.

Like if you read the comments on my page. Well, that's what I, we really wanted to give you the opportunity to speak on who you are and like what your story is. Because I feel like nobody, nobody does know you. Nobody does. So what do you like to do? Outside of custody and baby mama drama and parenting.

What do you, what is the devoid like to do? Like, who is devoid? I like to cook. That's one thing I can say. I like to cook. So does Nova help you cook ever? No, she's got, she got the attention span of a peanut. No way.

That's a no cook. No way. No way. No way. No way. No way. No way. No way.

No way. No way. No way. No way. No way. I'm interested in no kidding. She might say, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

Right, right, right. All kids I feel like. We got the chicken wings clean. Okay, let's go with this now. Right, right, yeah. Yeah, we got to do this. And I mean like. Okay.

So you like to cook. What are you, what are you cooking? Wings. What's your specialty? Now that's a specialty. That's a specialty right there. That's also just something that's real easy to do. You know?

I don't know how to make chicken wings. So I can't say that that's very easy. Are you more of a flat or a drummy? Flats, all day. Flats for sure. Yeah. eating chicken wings last year. I'm a flat person.

I mean, I like I like drums, too. I'm a flat person. Are you blue cheese or are you ranch? I despise both. Oh, what? Eat them plain. No other dipping sauces. No white condiments.

I can't do no white condiments. Wow. I drink milk. I don't sour cream. I don't drink no mayo. I hate mayo. That's the worst thing in the world to me. Oh my gosh, I love it.

I'll douse my stuff with it. Devoyne should make his own condiment sauce. Yes. That would be cool. A specialty sauce for your wing. That's all I was thinking. So how's the YouTube channel going? It's going well.

It's going. It's going. I only did a few Q&A's on there so far. But like I said, I'm still working on a video editing. I'll try and do a little BTS weekend of this shit right here. But it should be happening so fast. Well, you almost slipped up and told everyone that you were here for a podcast.

I was like, wait, no. We're not telling the secret. I did. You like, yeah, you did. I heard you almost say her name. And then when I heard it, I was like, so the only relevant podcast in the team mom world is Coffee Combo.

So now everyone knows. Funny enough, I didn't get not one message. Like nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody insinuated that. I'm pretty sure my son's dad insinuated. He definitely was connecting the dots. Oh, he had to. I've been getting a lot of messages about him. Like, what's up with that?

We have a very similar dynamic to you. Are y'all cordial? No. So definitely very similar. That's why I can relate. And he has your latest son. Both my son. Oh, Lux, right?

Lux and Creed. Lux and Creed. Nice names. Thank you. Yeah, so it's definitely I can relate, but also wanted to give you the opportunity to speak. How many kids you have now? Four.

He's like, this interview has changed. It's changed. I'm going to interview you. I'm seeing you at the reunion in New York. You've had another kid. Did I have three kids then? Or did I have two? What year?

Yeah, because Brianna and I were pregnant at the exact same time. This is 2018. So yes, I had three sons. Yes, I had another one. OK, OK. So I have four boys. And yeah. Creed is the latest one.

Creed is the latest one. Yeah, he's six months old. Oh, he's six months now? Yeah. OK, yeah, you can tell us that. Yeah, he's brand new. Devon's literally coming for our job. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to have my own podcast in 2.5 seconds.

That's so funny. No, it's not. Yeah. So tell me about your relationship with Nova, what you guys like to do, how often you get to see her. Now, my relationship with Nova, as of right now, we've got a set day Saturday. It's my day with her.

Every Saturday? OK. But throughout the week, that girl busier than me. Yeah. Not for nothing. And it's like, it's kind of crazy. It's kind of like, I know she'd be tired. Like, she has school five days a week,

practice three days a week. And it's like, homework is the other one. Like, there's nothing in between. There's no time for nothing extra, really, with her. And then she's also recording with, you know, the show. So she's a busy child. Yeah. I be feeling like, like for once, maybe a couple of weeks ago,

we hung out and didn't do nothing for the first time. Usually, when I get her, we either go to go-cars. We do something. I feel like, because I haven't seen you all week, like, we have to do something. Something fun, yeah. And she came over a couple of weeks ago and wanted to do nothing.

And that was the best time we've ever had. She said, dad, it's cold. I don't want to go nowhere. I don't want to leave. Can we go to Uber Eats? Can we just watch TV? And that was the best time we ever had with her, like, doing nothing.

So what's y'all's dynamic with each other? Is it, is your relationship, I mean, it's obviously different than the relationship she has with Brianna, because you're a dad. Well, we, it's just a Nova show. Whatever she want to do, we can do. Yeah, OK. Just a Nova show.

And does your girlfriend have a relationship with her? Oh, yeah. When they link up, whenever, Nova's a girl person. She loves my sisters as well. So whenever we come around and it's a girl around, it's like they team up against me. She's that kind of girl. Like, OK, girls versus boys, let's do this.

Yeah. That's how she is. She's a real clingy to girls. Well, she's around so many. You know that that makes sense, totally makes sense. I know this, like, her household is similar to my mom's. Like, my mom lived with just her and the girls. Ain't no guys around.

There's never been a guy, like, other than our father, that's consistently there. Nobody. So it's always girls. So I feel like she loved being over there more than she liked being with me. She'd go hang out with my sisters and my mom and have a blast. You know, they do her hair just on the 5th,

and they have a good time. That's so fun. Yeah, we have a pretty good relationship, though. I like my relationship with her. What do you want to see moving forward with, like, you're with everything? You're with Nova, with Brianna, with the show. Like, what's next?

Like, what's your ideal scenario? Ideal scenario. I'm trying to lock in on the house real soon, you know? That's the goal. I'm going to get that. That's what I want to show in your house. And then from that, you know what I mean? Me and Nova can do whatever.

Like, the sky's the limit. If I get my food truck open by this summer, which I plan on doing. OK, so Food Truck is next. Oh, my gosh. You've got the YouTube channel and then the Food Truck. Truck. So what are you going to name? Do you have a name?

Do you have, like, what's your plan? Is it just wings? I'll wing it. I literally wing it when it comes to things like that. That's a name. So wing it. You write about that. Might as well stream up with it. We just named what it is.

Name his business. I'll wing it when it comes to things like that. I really don't know. I don't put too much thought into things like that. What's your YouTube channel called? No, he's like, no name. My title. I guess it's me.

Wing it. That might be it. I'm just saying, here I am. Everything is a business idea. I say that all the time. Everything is a business idea. So I think that we should be co-owners. Yes.

But you're going to do all of the work. You're going to do all the work. I'm the silent partner. I name the business. Yes. Anything you guys such turn the gold. So I'm all in. Let's do it.

I love it. So you want to buy a house. And your situation with Nova, will you guys continue with Saturdays? Or is that another conversation? I would, like, full blown weekends, at least. I mean, obviously, when we're bouncing around throughout the week, that's just not healthy for nobody.

Right. I mean, you have to have some kind of stability in life. And she hasn't had that. And so I think that would be very hard, just playing devil's advocate that she's been with her mother all of this time, most of the time. Now, one thing I would like, because I used to do this with my parents, I like to have her for the summer.

It's not like we're in different cities. I did that before. It's so hard. I think as you get older, I don't know how close you guys live to each other. We have seven minutes. Oh, wow. So see, that changes the dynamic a little bit, I think.

I was at a state with Joe when we did it, and we switched. Isaac had six weeks with his dad in the summer and six weeks with me, and we both decided we never want to do that again. Yeah, it was really hard. But I think when you live in the same general area, that that might change the dynamic just a little bit.

What about week on, week off for the summer? Summer. That could work, too. Yeah. There's so many options that you guys have to be able to put all of your differences aside and stay off the fucking internet. It's just that Nova is so bubbly.

Yeah. She might be here, chilling in. I want mommy. I want daddy. She's so bubbly. Yeah. Yeah. Unpredictable, almost.

But she definitely loves both of us, for sure. Yeah, no. I just want to make sure I never put her out. Did you go through that one of that with one of your boys? Yeah, there was a little bit of a struggle, I think, with Isaac was wanting to not do the 50-50 thing anymore. He's 11, so. But Joe kind of felt like we're the parents, so we decide.

It doesn't. We can take what he wanted into consideration. But that doesn't mean that what he wants goes all the time. That's for sure. If it works, great. But that's a conversation between Joe and me. It's an adult decision.

Yeah. Joe has a kid. Joe has a daughter with his wife. OK. Yeah. Are they one of the same ages? No, they're six years apart. So there's a pretty big age gap there.

And for a while, I wasn't really seeing it that way, because I don't know if you've seen the show at all, but Leah and I are really good friends. And she does that with her daughters, where if they want to go to their dads, she takes them to their dads. If they want to go to their moms, they have a custody order in place,

but they kind of go off of what the girls want. And that works for them. So I guess I just assumed that it was going to work for me too. And so I felt like Isaac should be able to choose where he wanted to go. And then after talking with Joe and therapists and all of that, it was kind of like, we're the adults. We need to take the decision.

So I hear you. I hear what you're saying about she wants to go here, there, and everywhere. And both sides have to have that same mindset, too. Yes, that's a big part of it. And I think if you can't be on the same page with that, then it's never going to work. It is adult decisions, but it's not

like court of public opinion on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. I do got a question for y'all, though. Yeah, what? Now, when it comes to say Joe, hit you up saying, OK, Saturday, I want to take, what's your surname? Isaac. I want to take Isaac Bowling. Boom, OK.

Now, come Saturday. Say I did that with Nova. I want to take Nova Bowling. Come Saturday, I feel like Brianna always, she triple check, like, are you sure? Are you sure you want to do that? Are you sure? Almost make her feel like she shouldn't.

She asks Nova. See, that's the part where the therapist said that we're putting adult decisions and responsibilities on the child, and that's not fair. Not at all. Because that makes them feel like. What Brianna would do, though, is she'll, I'll say some shit like that.

OK, I want to take her Bowling Saturday. She'll say, like, she'll make plans with Nova, like, OK, me and Stella doing this, do you want to go, like, how is she going to say no to doing some shit with her mom and her sister? Like, like, why would you give her, like, an alternative plan or alternative option? Like, if I say I got plans with her,

don't offer nothing else. And that's why you guys have to get on the same page? No, Brianna, every single time. Oh, I got, she'll make plans. She'll run the circus out the blue just to make sure that I don't have, you know, something to do with her. And that was on Saturday. That was your day.

I mean, no, no, that's not. That's just random. No, no, no, I know I'm saying, but, like, she'll offer another plan. Like, was this an already, like, made plan that you guys were going to go bowling? It was agreed upon. And then it's questioned, like, are you sure, are you sure,

are you sure you want to do this? Well, the bowling, I was just an example. Oh, right, no, right. Now, there's been definitely incidents where she'd done that. Like, I have plans for her to go wherever. And she come out the blue with this in the fifth, like, yo. Of course, Nova's going to want to go do this with you

with Stella, like, why wouldn't she? Like, don't offer nothing else for her. If I got plans for her, like, just sit in your spot. Go do something with Stella. I mean, like, don't offer nothing to her. I don't understand why even give her a decision to make. Like, she's going to feel like the right thing to do is go with my mom.

I feel like that's how she should be right now, living there 99% of the time. You should feel like I got to make my mom happy. No, I don't. I don't agree. But I feel like that's how it is, though. That's what her mindset is. I know it.

You feel like Nova has to pick. That's why she's making her pick. And when it comes to picking and choosing, she's going to pick Mommy. There shouldn't be a pick. Mommy is who's with Stella, my sister. I love my sister. Of course she does.

So if that were to happen, could you offer to take Stella on another day? Brianna bought me a car seat for my car. She gave me a car seat for my car for in case I ever needed to pick Stella up for school. No, no, no, I misspoke. What I was asking was, you know, if Brianna was to make plans with Nova on a Saturday and Nova decided to go with her,

could you say, OK, you know, can I take her Sunday to kind of make up your time? Absolutely, absolutely. OK, OK, so then. Absolutely. But then come Sunday, OK, we got plans. Literally, she just plans. She just make plans.

I swear to God, she's come out the blue with plans. But she'll tell me quick. I think you've said before that you like having everything and writing because. Yes, because that's what the fallback is. Yeah, that's a fallback. And if you can't agree and be normal, humans with each other, then you

have to fall back on the custody arrangement. Right, right. So if it's in writing, you don't, she, nobody can say, oh, never mind. It's like it's. This is what she's doing. If you guys agree outside of the custody order, then, you know, you can do that.

But if you guys are not seeing eye to eye, then the custody order is what you fall back to. You know what I mean? Exactly, that's in paper. You ain't no going against that at all. Right, well, and if you do, there's consequences. So. You don't want those.

No, I'm definitely not speaking from experience. So another back to Nova schedule, like, you know, like she's busy Monday through Friday booked. OK, she's free on the weekend up until I quit my job recently. I was working like, OK, she's busy all week. I'm not. Weekend come. That's when I'm busy is that's peak time for a server.

You make your most money. Right. $300, $400 a night on the weekend, Friday and Saturday. Like, I'm definitely at work. I have to be there. So it's like, where is there time for me to really do anything with her? That's what it was for the longest.

You know, that's how I was making all my money. But then I quit. It's like, I got all the time in the world for her now. You know what I mean? Like, perfect. Like, the perfect recipe to spend time with my daughter now. I got the weekends off. And it's like, I feel like she should have just offered

the entire weekend to me. Like, if you she always complain about how I don't spend time with her, don't do this, that, and the fifth is like, dude, you're capping. I'm always around. Nova knows me very well. Like, I don't know. I feel like her story, she don't be consistent with her story.

And it's starting to show. Do you feel like you want more time on Teen Mom? And you feel like you would like to see more of? I mean, I could have the most bare minimum time on the show. I just need my words to be clear. I need my name to be clear. That's it. I don't care about the show.

That's not it. Well, there should be a whole being devoid special on that if they gave everyone else specials. Yeah, everyone got one. Did they give everyone else specials? Yeah, V got one, Javi got one. Oh, wow. I didn't know that.

I knew Javi did. I didn't know V had one. Wow. Everyone. Wow. I was like, Brittany got one. I don't know why did they choose Brittany before me. I don't know.

Well, I do think that Brittany is such a big part of Brianna's story that maybe that's why. Yeah, but that doesn't negate the fact that she's still got one. He shouldn't have one. I'm just saying that that would be valid why she would get one because she is such a big part. I mean, I'm not saying she shouldn't get one, but before me.

You should also have one. If it wasn't for me, they would not be on this damn TV. I started this shit. I mean, I started this shit. Like, are you kidding me? Without me, she weren't there. Like, I'm the reason she's there. Like, literally, I'm the guy who got her on the show.

Y'all both. Y'all both. It takes two. Yes. Like, yes, for sure. I was both. I'm saying, I didn't get none, though. I mean, like, she got Teen Mom, but that's you got that.

That's good. I mean, like. Oh, my gosh. It's funny to just like hear him because then to hear you two. Sometimes you're like, well, it's Teen Mom. It's not Teen Dad. Yeah, I've definitely been upset in the past where they've showed, like, more of the dads

in certain scenarios. And it didn't make sense. Like, why are we doing that? I don't think that they shouldn't have a voice on the show at all. I'm not saying that. It's definitely not about us. But I don't think that, you know, do I think that Teen Mom should follow you and your girlfriend?

Probably not. That's just my opinion. Absolutely not. But I do think if you are spending time with Nova. If you get all of that. They should. I agree. Because, you know.

And it should air. They have filmed, you know, Joe with Isaac and VV. And they filmed Hobby with his girlfriend and Lincoln. Like, they filmed those things. So I feel like they should it should be the same across the board. You can't just not have Devoyne in. Now, this is now this is another thing. And the only reason why I feel like me, I should be very relevant

is because in your stories, it ain't like you just over there always Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Chris, Chris, Chris, blah, blah, blah. You're actually doing things. I'm just kidding. You're actually, you're actually doing things. And I mean, like, Brianna, if you look in her segment, it's either Devoyne, Devoyne, Devoyne. That's it.

That's it ain't nothing else. What is she doing? Like, what is she really doing besides clowning me? What is she really doing? Well, and so in that sense, I feel like that's why you should be filmed when you're with her. I feel like I should have a special like, who was this guy? She's always talking about.

They don't even know him. Who's this guy that she's consistently down in? Like, why is she always like, my name is in her mouth. Her mama's mouth, her sister's mouth is always me. If you get any segments, any little snippets of Team Mom where Brianna is going to be here talking about me for sure. How can we change the narrative? What can what can we do so that you are able to have your voice heard?

Are you able to talk to your producer or does it have to be? We had a producer, we had a producer for maybe all of two weeks. I fucking loved her. She was from Michigan. She was from Michigan. She was a young millennial, a young black lady. We never had a black producer for one. Not that race matters and I'm like that.

It does matter. She's OK. She's like down the earth. She's just we see eye to eye like a motherfucker. Like she just came in and her first words to me was different than any other producer ever. And I was loving it. Two weeks later, found out she got replaced by some lady named Anna Maria.

Do you not get along with her? She's cool. Anna Maria, I love Anna Maria. She's awesome. You know what I mean? I just found out could you reach out? Are you could you could you ask to film something? Yeah, I do all the time.

But what they be telling me to do is they want me to self record. Like I'm not in my time when Nova, I'm not recording shit. Right. I'm not that's just not natural to me. I don't I don't want to know was already got the camera in her face. Enough. I don't want to whip out the camera and be that guy in front of her because she gets to know daddy, but you're falling down.

She don't like that shit. Right. Like it's free time. I'm you can be real with me. Be natural. Right. I mean, like so they tell me when you're an over. Oh, well, yes. If you can record some shit and send it to me.

And I'll never do that shit. I make sure I know I put that shit on my YouTube before I send it to them. Fuck that. I want 100% right. I put it I will definitely put the shit on my page before I give it to them. Fuck that. If y'all want it, come record me. Come bring them cameras over here.

They so there's some drama. They will be there knocking at the door. Hey, we're here. But when it's time to meet my kid, they will bring on them. I am here, so I don't get it. I don't know what they want. I think they know what I feel like they have it already set out for me what they wanted to be. Thoughts on that.

From an outsider's perspective, just because I'm on the show. Yeah, from from an outsider's perspective, I think that. I don't necessarily think I think your guys's show is the least scripted of any reality TV. However, when you cut parts out of the story that are relevant and it's one sided, then I think that's where the issues come in because you're not seeing the whole picture. Right, which is why we're here today.

Yeah, you have said this before that sometimes the whole picture isn't shown. You have how many minutes per week? I think each of us rotate between three and four minutes a piece. Yeah, and to be able to tell a whole story in three or four minutes. It's nearly impossible to do that and to cover both sides of that because then Brianna side is going to be cut if they did it fair and square. And it was teen mom and teen dad, then teen parents, then you would only get like one and a half minutes each week.

So then we're just saying, you know, maybe he should get a special or something to show more of his side. So at least he, you know, is able to say what he wants to say and clear his clear his name. I thought that would be the least that they could do. Like, I don't see why not. Like people are going to watch it. People are hitting me up every day like, dude, I'm dying to see. Like they I have like 7000 subscribers on my YouTube channel.

I ain't even posted yet. Like they're just dying to see what's going on. Yeah, no, that's nothing crazy. But I mean, still. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know. Like people are dying to see what's going on with me. I'm going to show them whether it's going to be on MTV or not.

I don't know, but I don't only time I tell if they do a special, I'm all in. I'm definitely not. I don't deny, you know, camera time. Well, I guess we should be executive producers of that as well, since we advocated for it. Yeah. Yeah. So coffee combos, podcasts, executive producers. How long have you been doing this podcast for?

We've been doing this about since 2017. So we're going on this year. We'll be four years. Hmm. Okay. How'd you guys meet each other? Twitter. Twitter.

Awesome. Yeah. Twitter. You all met on Twitter? Oh my gosh. So you just like liked how she was like tweeting. I liked how she tweeted. Yeah.

She was nasty. So I was like, yeah, that's my, that's my type. What was she tweeting that hooked you? Her freaking Twitter name was Effing Orgasmic. Oh, wow. I don't think it's that anymore. That was her Twitter name. That's it.

I got my own Twitter still. I can go find tweets between us two. Oh, wow. They're there. Oh, wow. They're there. I mean, I don't delete shit. So you're dangerous.

You have that in common. I got text messages from when I first bought my phone 2017. Y'all are dangerous. Yeah. I don't delete shit. I don't have to. I feel like that's just remember moving forward though, even though you don't delete anything, like save that for like a possible court file.

I don't know. Don't put it on the internet because that's one of my biggest regrets. And I have three baby dads is like putting shit out there that is not because our kids are able to Google that stuff. Like especially from, you know, I have 11 and seven year olds. My seven year old knows how to Google now. So some of the things that Javi and I went through our public and he's able to look those up and, you know, it's even our Instagram lives are being recorded by Twitter trolls

and this that in the third. So I feel like you don't want our kids to be able to see that. Did you see the recent article recently me and Brianna got into it or what she said about my mom? I didn't see that. I didn't see that either. So I guess my mom tapped in with some reporter or whatever under the article of saying how she feel about the show.

She didn't say nothing bad about Brianna, but she was just basically saying how, because there was an episode where Brianna asked her as Nova was like, are you are you excited to meet your grandma tomorrow? They made it seem like she was meeting her for the first time in eight years. And Nova responds was like, I know her. I know who she is on the show. I'm like, I know who she is. Like, what are you talking about?

That was her natural response. Like, you can't course a kid, you know, to a certain extent. Right. And it's like, what do you mean? Like, they basically are making it seem like she just met her grandmother. And it's like, that's BS. Like, she, I think the hairdo she had in her head was by her. Like, my mom does her hair.

So it's like, how are you going to play her like that? So she went out and she aired it out saying how basically going against allegations that Brianna be making about her. She didn't say nothing bad about Bri and Brianna gonna come out here telling her, oh, Sharita, you need to shut the fuck up, blah, blah, blah, shut your mouth. I'm like, dude, don't talk to my fucking mama like that. I ain't said nothing disrespectful to your mother, your mom went into a shoot and through a lamp and stood up in the L house on me.

Did what? Roxanne threw a shoe at me at a reunion. A shoe? Yeah. Like her shoe? Her shoe. She took a lamp or like some shit, a prop out of the house and threw it at me. On the show?

On the show. All that shit. She done did all that. Did that air? Yeah, that aired. All that shit aired. I was like, dude, how are you gonna come in my mom for that little words? She said, my mom don't have no platform.

You know what I mean? Like there was an incident. I think that's hard too with the, we were talking about this too with people who are in your family that don't have a platform or aren't part of a show and they aren't followed. How it's a really tricky situation and we're to navigate and I don't think that those, those people should be eligible for being talked about in the media because they didn't sign up for it. Right.

You know? It's like, I watched my mom turn into a social media person and my mom don't be on that. Now my mom checking Facebook, checking all this shit, trying to see what's going on. And my mom be on that phone like, just doing research like she used to didn't be like that. She used to be so much at ease. Now she's not like people are harassing her, like harassing her at work, like she hear more about this than I do. I don't even watch the show to be honest with you.

I do not. I've never sat there and watched that episode of Team Mom ever. You just know what people say about it. I just, I just, I get the clips. I'm going to be in there for 20 seconds so I can see that on Instagram. Yeah. That's literally it. You can see those on multiple accounts.

I see my 20 seconds on the ground. So now your mom did, so she did the, she did an interview or what was that? Like some new, it's a newspaper article some shit like that. Okay. The US Sun. Oh. They're the worst. Yeah.

They'll spend anything. So I mean, I don't know. Anything. Okay. Brianna, you must have been saying something to these people. Damn. How you going to get mad at us over what? All right.

I don't know. So that's definitely a hard thing to navigate. I look luckily for me, none of my family has ever like, I was going to say, like you're in a pretty good situation that your family hasn't, you know what I mean? Your family hasn't like done articles and like weird stuff to you. You have any siblings? I have a half sister that, you know, I met, I think, I met my dad on the show and then I met my sister once I was already on the show and we had a falling out based on some

things that aired, but we never went to like the media or anything like that. Like we just had a falling out on our own and I think maybe like one Facebook status and that was it. It never really went public. As far as I know, she didn't do any interviews or anything like that, which I'm thankful for, I just feel like, and sometimes I guess it just takes like going through something to learn about it, but obviously like I see a lot of some of the things that I've struggled with with my kids dads in you and Brianna and, you know, it gave me a chance to look

at my situation and say, okay, I shouldn't be posting stuff on the internet, but just like having you here, I feel like it wouldn't be right if I didn't say, you know, do your best to keep it off the internet. As much as you want to defend yourself, sometimes you, you're going to get dragged regardless. So if you defend yourself, you're going to get dragged and if you don't defend yourself, you're going to get dragged. I'm going to say though, it felt really good to get stuff off your chest and I felt like shit, my page and shit was more than ever off that shit.

I'm going to be real and that does bring business to me shit at the end of the day. I started to pot shit and it's not and the crazy thing is ain't nothing I ain't never told a lie. I'm not lying about nothing. All I did was air shit out. That's all I did was air shit out. Literally, like there was a fake text conversation that we had. That was not me.

Yes. It was not me. Like literally, I had, I told you one for one, I don't delete shit. So when I googled the text that I sent back to her, it didn't pop up on my phone. It did not pop up on my phone. Those words. It's not even how I talk like, so it was like, I posted that shit on Twitter quick for sure. You posted screenshots.

Yeah. I called them out saying that she had a fake conversation on me like, like what? So they were, there have been fake screenshots posted. It was like, they were showing her with text somebody Devoyne and in her phone, the same episode before you see my name is stated as Nova's father. My name and her phone is Nova's father. I've seen it from my own eyes. That's what she has me in her phone is and she's texting Devoyne and she gets an immediate

response back and I said some nut ass shit. Like what? I'm going to make a shirt that's a nut ass shit. Oh my. I'm like, what? And she's texting me that Nova, she was telling me something about Nova, make sure I'm not late to pick Nova up and Nova was in the house is like, what are y'all even talking about?

That was a sloppy ass scene. I didn't get it. I really didn't get it. So this was like not even real. That shit was fabricated like 100%. So who was being text and who was playing along? She might have been texting Brittany or Roxanne for all I know. Oh, wow.

I don't know, but somebody responded and it was not me and I'm going on the record. I was not me. So do you pretty much get along? Well, I mean, I know that you don't get along with Brianna, but we cool. Like I say, after all that shit, I pull up to the crib, ain't no, ain't no static, like no death stare. They know, get out my person. Y'all are cool, but on the internet, y'all are not.

So then that right there is your sign to just stay off the internet, keep the internet about your wing business, winging it, wing it, whatever we're calling it. Yep. Founders right here. Just keep it off the internet. But this is the whole thing though. My whole internet shit wasn't about, it wasn't ever like coming at her. It was coming down at the network.

Shit. I ain't coming at her. She's just defending the network because she's the face of that network. They making it seem like she does all this shit. I guess I don't know who the fuck I'm coming at, but shit. Y'all playing with my name. Like damn, they're playing with my name. Yeah.

That's hard. Whoever playing with my name. I just couldn't go for that. I'm literally looking at some shit out there. People just talking about shit that they don't even know about. Right. And once the damage is done, it's really, really, really hard. And it's like at the end of the day, that shit affected my job.

I stopped working because people are leaving notes on my tips saying, be better, do better for your daughter. Like, dude, that's why I stopped working. Like, bro, fuck this shit. That's horrible. Are you shitting me? Like, bro, people leaving nasty tips and shit. Don't get me wrong.

The good always the bad, for sure, but it's just starting to get out of hand. Like, yo. But the bad definitely sticks out. But if someone was leaving these shitty tips like that and wrote to me, I gotta tip for you. Like, come on, bro. No, that's now affecting my business. All right.

Yeah. You can stiff me and give me a dime. And then we'll leave me some tucky ass. No, like that. I'm out of there. I'm out of there. That's horrible. Clear that.

That's about it. That's why I stopped working. That's. So what's next? You're just going to focus on wings or are you going to do try to find something else? Well, wings is just the easy start. You know, it don't take too much to do like a hobby or on the side hustle. But like I said, I plan to open the food truck in the summer, you know, in Orlando food trucks

thrive. Yeah. They're really big out there. So that could lead to a restaurant or something. Should a chain. You know, I'm telling. But a food truck. I can't.

You're that confident in your wings. Yeah. I wish we would have got wings for you to make for us. Try them. Yeah. But I got a club that actually booked for me every week. Yeah. I got a club that booked for me every week.

A hundred wings every Wednesday. So yeah, they let them shits. Call your wings your wing truck Wednesday. Wait, what kind of wings do you make? Whatever flavor you want. Like Roman pepper. I can make lemon pepper. Sweet, Thai chili barbecue.

Carolina gold. Oh, wow. I got my own little special sauce I whip up. Honey hot. I do it all. We're wing connoisseurs. It sounds like the movie Forrest Gump when they're talking about all the shrimp. You know, I don't know that movie.

You've never watched it. You've never watched Forrest Gump? No, I just know the box of chocolate. What is it? It's like fried shrimp. Cajun shrimp. Cajun shrimp. Grilled shrimp.

Yep. A whole shrimp. Life is like a box of chocolates. That's all I know. I am so disappointed that you don't know that movie. Yeah. You don't watch Forrest Gump? Yeah, you've got to watch it.

Okay. So yesterday we played a game on my, well, my viewers played a game on my Instagram story called This or That. So I'm going to give you a couple of this or that. And then we'll end the podcast. All right. So Coke or coffee? Neither.

What? What? No, no, no, no. It's this or that. Not neither. You have to pick one. You have to pick one. Coke.

Coke. Okay. Coke color, right? Yeah. Yep. Coke classic. Coca-Cola classic. Yes.

Okay. Cheese. It's original or goldfish? Goldfish. Really? Yeah. I'm a, I feel like I'm a Cheez-It person. Definitely a Cheez-It person.

Unless it's like extra cheese flavor blasted goldfish. Goldfish for rich. I just had a bag. Goldfish are really like air filled dust. It's like cheese dust. Yeah. Like cheese dust. It's like.

Well, I mean, it's weird to me. I like the flavor. I need some flavor. Yeah. Me too. And the cheez-its. Cheez-its or okay. The next one was, well, the next one was a makeup one.

What's some guy ones we could ask him? Okay. Okay. Would you? Oh, it says her that. Yeah. Sorry. I don't even know the game we're playing.

Lemon pepper or barbecue wings? Barbecue. No. You were saying all the wrong answers. Barbecue. Not even close actually. Boxers or briefs? Briefs.

Okay. Okay. Just wondering. Briefs, man. I was just wondering. That was somebody else in the room. If anybody wearing a boxer, is there a cycle? I don't think so.

That was anymore. Okay. True crime or like fiction? True crime. True crime. Are you a true crime? My girl is a fanatic. Okay.

So have you seen the TikTok where it's like her arms cut off? The legs. Have you seen that one? My girl is a fanatic. So when you get in bed, that's what's happening. You hear her arms are cut off. Her legs are cut off. Her eyeballs are plucked out.

That's so funny to me. Okay. What's another one? Let's see. I'm, I love Asian food and Lindsay loves Mexican food. So what would you pick? Tacos. Mexican.

Yeah. Okay. He had to do something for me. Are you a more a Lindsay or a kale? Just in general, like fly by the seat of your pants or like put together and on a schedule. I'm going to think a kale. Definitely more of a kale.

Okay. But we're going to keep a running tally now from guests that are doing kales. That's a good idea. There's going to be more kales. You think? Yeah. I think more, more people playing this green out.

No, we didn't. We didn't. It wasn't funny. I almost, you almost work green jacket just like that. Is there something in the universe? Where to God? I got swear to God. Can I make this up?

Okay. So when's your birthday? What's your sign? July 3rd. July 3rd. You're okay. You're. What?

Okay. Okay. Okay. So she's. September 17th. Okay. My favorite number 17. Yeah.

See. Yeah. He's like a haze. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Would you rather? Would you rather have Oreos or Chips of Hoy?

Chips of Hoy. No. The blue ones are the original ones. But are you, are you, don't they have like crunchy Chips of Hoy? The crunchy ones, not the chewy ones. Not the chewy ones. I don't see it as a kid that the chewy ones are better, but

they're really not. Okay. I said this one last night. Oh, I would love the chewy ones. So you're at Chips of Hoy and then you're chewing. The red ones. The red ones. Okay.

Yeah. Oreos all day. Oreos. Oh no. Okay. Red Doritos or blue Doritos? Red. Not even close.

What? No. I'm definitely. Cool ranch. Cool ranch. Cool ranch. Cool ranch. Yeah.

Not nacho cheese. I'm getting sick of these shit though. I'm getting sick of these iPhones. To be real. My husband has an Android. Oh, so he's been on the podcast? Yeah. Definitely that.

Yeah. Okay. Is there any other like this or that that anyone wants to add? No. Okay. What if I got one for y'all? Yeah, yeah. Go ahead.

I got a couple for y'all. Okay. All right. So hot or cold? Weather or? Just hot or cold. This is this or that. Like you said.

I'm going with hot. I'm going to go with hot. Hot wings. Hot weather. Hot anything. Hot men. Yeah. Hot women.

You know. I heard that. All the hot. All right. One more for you. Let me see. Let me see. I got one for you.

Let me see. That's a good one for you. All right. McDonald's or Burger King? McDonald's. Burger King. Ew. What are you eating from there?

A Whopper. A Whopper meal. Their burgers are way better than McDonald's. For sure. For sure. But I prefer to have a McDonald's Coke. McDonald's fries are. Their soft drinks are better.

McDonald's Coke will kill you. What? A Sprite will kill you. Why do you say that? What? What do you mean? What? You can start your car with that shit.

Oh, wow. McDonald's Sprite. So I'm basically dead. I love. I try not to drink a lot of Coke, but I love Coke and McDonald's Coke is so good. Dude, if you dip a firecracker in a cup of McDonald's Sprite, that shit will go off. What? What's in it?

That shit is just so potent. Like it's so. Should we try that? So carbonated. What? That's a thing. Yeah, we should. We definitely should.

I don't really want to lose a finger. No, I was joking about it. But that's just. Wait, so it's not real. It's like excessively carbonated. You just made that up. Yeah, I made that shit up. You never drink Sprite from McDonald's?

No. I don't really drink Sprite. It's like way Spriteier than any other Sprite. Yeah. Well, it's a syrup thing. I think that's like a crockerboard. It's way like Coca-Cola classic more than any other Coca-Cola classic. Except for Disney.

But it's like OD, though. Disney is. Yeah. Disney's Coke is like different than anywhere. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's very interesting. You would probably love it if you lived in Florida.

Okay. So tell us where we can find you on Instagram, all the things. Instagram, first name, last name, Devoin Austin. Twitter. Y'all need to find that. I'll try and stay low key on that. Let me see my YouTube channel. Has no name.

First name, last name. First name, last name, Devoin Austin. Definitely follow me there. Look out for the food truck. Actually, my food Instagram is going to be Wrist of Gold. Wrist of Gold. I kind of winged it with that name right there. And people be like, yo, I need them Wrist of Gold wings.

You know what I mean? So, but I know that's not something I can name my shit. So that's just. Why not? I don't know. Go with your gut. You can name your business whatever you want. You're right about that.

You are right about that. We'll hype you up. Yes. We're excited. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it so much. It was definitely nice getting to know Devoin and the back story and who Devoin is.

Yes, I agree. I appreciate it. Thank you for the opportunity. All right, guys. That is all we have for today. If you guys have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast on Instagram, make sure you follow us over there. And if you have not subscribed to our show, you can do that by

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