Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 149: Homeschooling, New Dogs, and Changing Last Names

Episode Date: March 18, 2021

As Kail and Lindsie prepare to meet up in Philly there are a few things to discuss, mainly Kail's plan to introduce Lindsie to a Puerto Rican restaurant she loves. There have been a lot of requests to talk more about homeschooling, so Kail and Lindsie discuss their opinions and whether or not they would consider homeschooling their own kids. Lindsie's son Jackson has been asking to get a dog, but Lindsie just doesn't know which breed is right for her family. Kail gives some suggestions based on her extensive dog knowledge from childhood. And Lindsie has been thinking a lot recently about why it's expected for women to change their last names when they get married. And what happens when a couple with kids gets divorced? Would the mom want to keep the same last name as her kids? This episode was sponsored by: Literati Books, Hello Bello, Better Help, & Ana Luisa Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

All right, everyone, welcome back to Coffee Combo's podcast, Kale, Kale, that's how Lux says my name. He'll literally be like, mom, mom, Kale, Kale, let's go, Kale, and I'm like, who are you? Who are you? Why does he do that? I don't know. None of my other kids ever called me by my first name.

But for some reason, Lux is, I mean, he's definitely one of a kind. Can I talk to you really quickly about my major mom fail this morning? Yes. Please do. I completely forgot about St. Patrick's Day, and my kid is the only one in the entire classroom that did not wear green today. Oh, Kale. I don't even think we own anything green.

Like he's wearing teal, okay? It's like half green, half blue. Wait. So is this like you got to the school and realized it was St. Patrick's Day or you're getting dressed? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not only did we walk into the doors and like the owner of the school is like standing there with green, green glitter and there's glitter all over the place.

It still did not click in my head until we walked to the actual classroom and I was like, oh, wow, everyone's in green. Like I didn't even, I saw the green glitter, it said Happy St. Patrick's Day. There's rainbows everywhere. Like the kids little projects hanging up on the walls never connected the dots until the classroom. So I was like, sorry, we didn't have anything green like I, you know what, it's fine. Why are you laughing at me?

I'm very upset. I don't want him to feel left out. You should have canceled the podcast. I should have gone to Target and bought him a shirt. Oh, and we're leaving early because I have to, he's leaving early because they, all the kids have a dentist appointment today. So I'm going to go pick him up early so he's not eating lunch at school and then I'm going to go get Isaac and Lincoln and then we're going to go to the dentist.

But I was just like, damn, I really fucked up. You know, he's getting pinched all the way until you get there. What? Isn't that a thing? Like if you don't wear green on St. Patrick's Day that like people pinch you. Oh, no, I'm just making it way worse. Honestly, I'm not sympathizing at all. No, let me tell you, okay, wait, you did it this week too.

So with the time change, first of all, who made up that rule? It's not real. It's not fucking real. It just makes us feel better about the sun going down earlier or the sun coming up earlier. Like it's just not a real thing. Okay, well, let me tell you that Jackson has never been tardy for school, like ever, not preschool, nothing tardy. Is that what it's called?

Yeah. But like late. Yeah. Well, I mean tardy. So you're counted tardy after a certain time. So I sit up in the bed like frantically at 747, maybe 742 and I look at my alarm clock and I'm like, Oh my God, that couldn't be right. Like couldn't be.

And I'm like so flustered. I'm like going around and Jackson showers in the morning before school and I don't know if anybody else's kids do that, but it's like a whole process and honestly, it's a big deal. We've been fighting about it in the mornings. He goes in there. He saners around in the bathroom for like 30 minutes and it's just a big deal. So I'm like today, you do not have time to do that. And he's literally so smart that sometimes like so too smart for his own good.

I said, Jackson, you're already tardy. Like we overslept and he's like, Oh, it's okay. It's just morning meetings, meeting and specials. Like I'm not missing anything important. Like he's so calm and like everything's fine and this child has never been tardy a day in his life. And I'm just like, why are kids like that? Like why are kids just like nonchalant?

Yeah. Are your kids like that? Like they just, you'll be flustered and then they're just like, I don't know why you're doing this or like why this is going on. My kids act like when I'm flustered about being late or like, especially with Lincoln's football school, I don't really have a problem because somehow, some way we always make it on time. There's only been like a handful of times we've been late, but they look at me like, like the looks on their faces is pure confusion about why I'm upset or frustrated and I'm

just like, I will literally be like, why are you looking at me like you have no idea what's going on? I do not understand. It's like they're looking at an alien. Yes. It's like, I don't understand, like why are they like that? I don't know. And I'm wondering like, was I like that?

Was I nonchalant when my mom was like, get the fuck out of the house. We have to go. Like I don't remember ever just like looking at my mom, like why are you confused? Like why are you frustrated? And it's like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it's like, oh, we'll just like take in your precious time to put on your shoes. Like thank God we have Velcro shoes and not laces and then like walking to the car so

slowly with the backpack on, like I feel like if that was me, I was tardy as a child. I probably, my backpack was probably hitting the back of my head. I was probably trying to run so fast so that my parents didn't get upset. Um, yeah. Yeah, I've been there. I mean, definitely have been there. I don't know what might, what goes through our kids head. I don't know.

Maybe they're just like, it's fine. And maybe it's cause we're boy moms. Oh, that's a good point. That is, you know, like the girls freak out more about like things and react differently to their moms. Cause honestly, Jackson looks at me like I'm a psychopath. So anyway, today I have to take another COVID test so that I'm eligible to travel for Teen Mom.

Eligible. Um, yes. I am very excited to go to Philly because I ordered food. The last time I was there, I ordered food from this, um, Spanish restaurant and it was so good. And this is the last week I'll be allowed to have carbs, um, or like a significant amount of carbs because, and I'll tell you why I want to get to Philly. I mean, you know why, but I'll tell our listeners why.

And no, it's not that I'm going on a keto diet, um, but, um, I, so I'm using our trip to Philly tomorrow to be like, that's like my end all be all like, you guys will find out next week, um, what's going on, but, um, I'm going to order from the restaurant again because it was so good. And I just, I know that it'll be a long time before I have it again. So I'm just, I'm excited to see you, but I am also very excited to eat authentic. All the things. Yes.

Yeah. Yes. I've had Puerto Rican food to be honest, very, very, very good. It is. Yeah. It's not like people think that all, um, there are some people that think like all food is Mexican food, like Spanish food would be Mexican food, but it's not the same. They're very different.

Okay. Well, I'm going to try it since you're trying it. No, I'm not trying it. I love it. Okay. Well, since you love it, I'm going to try it, but I also told Gino's that I was coming back. So you're like, Hey, I'm going to stop by and pick up a quick, um, cheese steak.

I did. He was like, all right, no problem. Come on by. No problem. Just, just come at whenever you want, um, like a normal person. I didn't want to say I listened to the episode last week. It was fun and cool. I don't know what you guys talked about, um, in regards to like the homeschool thing.

I don't think I made it that far into the episode yet, but I know that we got a lot of messages regarding homeschool topic and I kind of want to feel informed. So please tell me like what it was. We basically went over, um, like is homeschool like, is there a curriculum or can you kind of just do what you want to do and teach them what you want to teach? And I said, I'm pretty sure and I don't, I don't know firsthand, um, there's like a, a basis of like what you should, I think they get tested through the state still, um, but you can pretty much do what you want.

Like I actually read a post yesterday, um, a 12 year old is going to Arizona State University after she graduates high school, which she's already about to graduate high school. Um, and her mom homeschooled and world schooled her. So I'm assuming that that is like truly teaching them, teaching your child about like all of the things. And I don't know that I don't, I just don't know if there's like a curriculum base, um, you have to kind of get through and then you can kind of, um, customize your child's learning plan from there.

Or if there's just no, because I'm pretty sure they have to do, they do have to take some type of test, right? Like, um, like standardized testing to see where they're at. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I remember a girl that I was friends with growing up, like whenever I was a little kid, which was forever ago, um, I remember her like having to sit for tests with other homeschool kids, but I don't know if it's like standardized or like what it's like, but I know that there was like state requirements, like obviously you can't just

do whatever you want. I don't think, but like to a degree, yes. But every homeschool person that I've ever known has been extremely smart, like, um, and I don't mean academically as much as more as like life street smart, like life smart, I guess. Um, I don't know. I always thought my friend growing up, her name was Hope. And I always thought that she was extremely smart.

Like she knew, like she could probably take care of a house by herself when we were in like second grade or something, or at least that's what I thought. So I just, I feel like I remember saying on the podcast, my old neighbor, she had five kids, she homeschooled four of them and then they went to public school on one day out of the week. Um, and so it was kind of like a hybrid situation. Um, if I was smarter, I would definitely definitely do it. Um, and if their dads were on board, um, but it would have been really cool if, you know,

we had this whole like virtual learning situation. Um, if it happened under different circumstances, because I feel like a lot of us could have really done, I'm not that we couldn't have done it without like things being opened, but I definitely think that like museums, aquariums, like parks, you know, all those things play a part in homeschooling. And we've, we've talked about it a little bit before, but, um, when you can go do those things kind of like on your own schedule as a learning day or you know what I mean, it's like a classroom outside of a classroom.

Um, and I think that would have been great. I don't have the, I guess I'm just not smart enough to supplement those things. So I have to use those as like, um, a crutch, I guess, like I would have to like take them to go do stuff and basically have other people teach my kids for me, but not sit in a classroom kind of thing. Um, but I don't know. I definitely give props to people who homeschool because I don't, I just, I'm not, I'm literally not smart enough.

Me, I also give them props and it's funny because I mean, obviously, you know, I had Jackson home from March until October. So that really did me in. Um, I feel like I aged significantly during that time and now that he's like back in the classroom at school, he just really requires the social aspect of school and you know, some kids don't require it as much as others. I know that he does. And I don't know if like being an only child plays a part in that too.

Um, but it's so much better with him being at school, having his teacher that actually knows what she's doing. Like I felt like I was having to relearn how to do like simple math things because they don't learn the same way as we learned. And so that was a little bit challenging for me, but yes, props to all the parents who are out there homeschooling. Um, cause it's not for me. Honestly, I thought when I became a mom that I was going to be a lot more crunchy than

what I have become. Yes. And then over time, I've just kind of become way more lax and I don't know if it's just like getting comfortable with being a mom. Like I've always been comfortable being a mom, but I think just like knowing that it's going to be okay. Like if he eats a cheeseburger from fast food, like once in a while. Um, and I don't know if you went through any of that at all either, but I was so dead set

that I was going to be like this crunchy mom. I was going to be a homeschool mom. I was going to do all these things and like a lot of it just hasn't come to fruition. So yeah, that's where I'm at. And uh, yeah, yay for public school, yay for public school. I mean, I've had, I thankfully have had a really good experience, especially in Delaware with public schools. Um, I don't know about Pennsylvania cause my kids never went.

I went, but they didn't. Um, I wait, I'm going to tell you something before I, before this thought like leaves my mind. Okay. So remember whenever we were texting, well, that's like every day, but, um, when we were talking about men listening to the podcast, I so badly want to do a sweatshirt that says, sir, you don't have a girlfriend because we get messages or somebody you'll always like men instead of just acknowledging the fact that they actually tune in and listen, right?

They use the excuse of, oh, well, like my girlfriend or my wife or whatever, and it's like, sir, you don't have a girlfriend or like you don't have a wife, sir, you're single. Like, Like, why are you lying? Just say that you love us. Yeah. But I so badly want that. And I want to know how many men that are listening would purchase it and also how many men would

acknowledge the fact that they're actually listening to this at this moment that they listen because they enjoy and not because they're lying, acting like they have a girlfriend. I mean, I feel like some of the things that we say could help them either learn what not to do or what to do, um, when it comes to just things. So I don't, I just feel like men should listen. They should learn about things. We need to try to tap into that male audience, you know, like really tap in. I agree.

I agree. Maybe if we get like a male, we need to have some male, um, people speak out and be honest about not being in a relationship and listening to coffee combos podcast, like tag us, let us know, we'll repost you. And then I think you'll be the leader, the, like the line leader for honesty in the men, um, demographic agreed 1000% agreed. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So I have to talk about this too.

I want to know whoever's listening. If you're a man or if you are ladies, like most of you, like 99% you know, I think it's like 97. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, 97% of you, um, if you also have children, how old were your kids when they lost teeth? Because I thought Jackson was going to lose teeth. Like a couple months ago, because it started, I could see the one coming in behind and then

it started getting a little bit loose, but it took forever for it to come out. And I finally just flicked it out, but I want to know, like, you flicked it out. Yeah. I'm going to tell you the process of how this went down, but is it? I feel like Jackson's really late to start losing teeth. He's eight and he just lost his first one. I heard that that's actually a good thing. Um, it just means that like the teeth that are going to come in are going to be like

stronger. I don't know how true that is. We might have to get Randy Huska on the podcast, um, because he's a dentist and all, but, um, I've heard that's a good thing. I thought Lincoln was late, but Jackson's like way late, but I'm not saying it's a bad thing. So don't take it the wrong way. I thought Lincoln was late cause Isaac lost his first tooth way before Lincoln, um, Lincoln

just lost a tooth last year. So I don't, and he's seven. So I thought it's also funny too, because I had posted a video of Jackson on my Instagram story and people could see like his shark teeth and I got a bunch of messages from mom saying my kid also has had shark teeth or whatever, but it's funny because before Jackson or before Lincoln, I didn't even know, like, yeah, before Lincoln, I didn't even know what shark teeth were. I had never seen it like ever, ever, ever, ever had heard about shark teeth.

And when I took Lincoln to the dentist and he had the two teeth coming out behind his baby teeth, I just could not understand it. And he was like, this is pretty common, but I had never seen it. And I feel like I would have seen something like that in my lifetime. And then lo and behold, here comes Jackson with shark teeth. It's so, it's so crazy. And then do they, okay, so now that his tooth is pulled, does it like go in that space or does it stay where it is?

So Lincoln's teeth are, he lost both of them and they took the place of his, where his baby teeth were, like they moved up. Well, like how long does it take for that to happen? A couple months. It does take a couple months. Because I keep looking every day. Yeah. I'm watching.

Lincoln, I think has just like systemically, just like not great teeth. And so how he didn't have great teeth, I didn't have great teeth. And so he's definitely on the struggle bus with teeth out of all my kids, but they did come up pretty, I would say almost immediately after the tooth came out, but it did take a couple months to like line up where it needed to be. Okay. So that gives me some hope, honey, moving on from that. I just need to say that I don't know if it's like full moons or the universe or whatever

it is, but like PS, I'm sorry about like not being on the podcast last week. I did just want to like briefly address that. I'm not really ready to talk about all of the things, but whenever I do get ready, obviously I'll talk about it on the podcast first. But it was just like a weird week for me. And I don't know if other people have been having like weird weeks or like their days have just fell off, but mine have been extremely like off, like my schedules off, my everything's off.

I concur. I definitely am experiencing the same thing on different level. I have just like a lot of shit going on and I literally asked what day it was today because I was like, I thought yesterday was Monday, it was Tuesday. I don't know what's going on. What's in the air. Maybe it's, um, I know Mercury is not in retrograde right now. So I'm not sure.

Well, I need answers because I'm ready for whatever it is to be fixed and like normal again. Right. Also, let me tell you two things that I did somehow, and I'm so good about like my schedule and like being where I'm supposed to be when I'm supposed to be there. I go to my accountant's office because I had to finish my taxes last week. I was just sitting in the lobby and the little receptionist comes up and she's like, Hey Lindsay, like your appointment was yesterday.

I've done that before. It's the worst. It's the fucking worst. I was so embarrassed, but like also like shocked because mentally I had never had it in my mind that it was another day. Like I had always had it in my mind that it was that day. Yes. Oh, wow.

That's, that's the worst feeling because you're like, and now when, how do we know when we can get in again? I wasted this person's time. I wasted my own time. Like I hate that fucking feeling. I hate that feeling. It's the worst. I just got to finish my taxes, which was great.

Oh good. Good, good. But I was so embarrassed because I was just like, wait, my appointment was yesterday. Like you're like, I'm 24 hours late. You're not just a little bit, just like a very, yeah, I've been there. What the heck. So wait, what, what else is going on? Are you still filming for Teen Mom for this season?

Yes. So we are going to film while we're in Philly tomorrow and Friday and then next week is supposed to be my final week filming and then, and then that's it. Wow. So I wonder how long you'll have a break or it's unknown. It's unknown as of right now. We will be done for all of April. And then if we get another season, I would assume they canceled the reunion for May or

I'm sorry for April. We were supposed to have a reunion in April. That's not happening. I'm not sure if they're going to move it to May. I'm not sure if we would start filming again in May. I don't even know if we would get another season, but I am going, I hired someone on my own to film the process of my construction starting major install dates, anything that goes on with my new property, taking fencing down, anything like that.

I have somebody coming in to film that stuff on my end just so I can have, like just because I know that it's just not going to be filmed in its entirety for MTV, it sucks, like they're not going to focus on my home build. And I think a lot of our listeners and my followers on Instagram are obsessed with that kind of stuff. So I'm filming it on my own for like, TikTok, Instagram, my website, stuff like that. So I'm not going anywhere during that time. It's just going to be very, very different content from me.

I really want to like hone in on what my, what is my brand? What is my niche? And maybe that's like the home build and design stuff. So I don't know. What do you have going on? Well, I was going to make a couple of points to what you just said. I think when you're part of a TV show that I don't want to say has a specific narrative, but kind of, it's not like they're feeding you guys storylines by any means.

That's not what I'm saying, but they have certain things that they're interested in and then other things that just doesn't fit the show's agenda. And so I think that makes it hard for someone who's been doing it for so long. Like in your case, when you have good things, like a bunch of good things going on, and then it feels like the good things are overshadowed by the negativity and the struggle because you've worked so hard to get to the good part. And so I know that that's why you're choosing to film the stuff on your own because you'll be able to give it the coverage that I want to give it, that you want to give it.

And I think that's a great thing. I've had things going on in my personal life too that I'm like, oh wow, I wish that I could be documenting some of these things, not from a production standpoint, but I just wish I had to document these things. Like vlogging almost? Yeah. So that I could look back on them and be like, oh, well, that was hard, but it got a little better.

Right. Or that really sucked. Like just to be able to look back on it. And I think it's kind of cool to be able, like there's technology now that we have the ability to be able to do those things. Like obviously, like back in the day, you had what camcorders, is that what they were called? Yes.

Oh my God. Like I'm kind of into that. And I don't know if maybe this is just like a mood that I'm in. And I don't want to like spill too much before I get to Philly with you. But I think that type of documentation is probably going to come back just better. And I'll talk to you more about that whenever we get to Philly. And then share with listeners whenever it comes to fruition. Anyway, with that being said, let's move on to something else, which would be Jackson

really wants a big dog. Oh, yes. Do it. I vote do it. And I know a lot of our listeners are dog crazy and love, love dogs. And I just don't really know like a lot about dogs that much other than like little breeds. And I know that's like really not your thing. Can I tell you something?

Okay. It's really, really weird that this is coming up. I was just telling Natalie yesterday, like I'm traumatized from my childhood. I think I touched on this before, but I don't know like to what depth I, when I was a kid, you know how kids can take out library books, right? I told you this, how I would only check out dog books. My mom's husband at the time and now thinking back, this was, I don't know if this was just like manipulation or like just like fucked up, but my mom's husband would make me stand

outside in the snow and the rain in any type of weather for 20 to 30 minutes every single night and every single morning because he told me that if I wanted a dog, this is what would happen. Like to let them go to the bathroom and stuff. It wasn't a fenced in yard. So like if you want a dog, you have to do this. And if you can do this, then, you know, we'll get you a dog because we know that you're willing to, you know, go outside in all climates basically.

And then I also never got a dog. They never got me one. And I did stand outside. So that's fun. I know that like breaks my heart. Just like as a mom, like, yeah, that's like terrible. And I thought about it. We literally, me and Natalie talked about it yesterday.

And so it's weird that you brought that up, but that wasn't, that was kind of besides the point, but I also wanted to just say that. So if Susie, if you're listening, your, your husband was fucked up anyhow. All my dog books, like I can tell you a little, I'm not an expert, but like, I would say I'm like maybe like a, like a low knowledge expert based on my library books. So if you have like questions, if you have questions, um, my whole life, like I was dead fucking set on a Rottweiler or a Doberman. And so those were my two top, like based on all the characteristics.

And then like, I know a little bit about some other dogs. So if you have any questions, I can help. Well, I feel like I'm, I think, I feel like I'm just in a transitional phase in my life that it would be okay. Like if we were going to do another dog that like I could, I just don't really know how to like take that step to do it, but the conversation seems to be more often these days. It's um, Della is my dad's dog and she follows my dad and she lays with him and I have to chase her to get her and like, I want a dog to follow me and I want it to be my dog and

all of those things, but he wants it to be a dog that can also like play fetch. And that's not really like Della's thing, right? Yeah. So I don't even know where to start. I know that I have decently bad allergies. So I know it would have to be a hyper allergenic dog for sure. And we kind of started with it being a cat. Like that's where the conversation started.

And then I was like, well, if you get a cat, I'll die. So you can't get a cat. So then it turned into a dog relatively quickly. So I just want to know like people who are listening, what hyper allergenic dog breeds that you have that you recommend that wouldn't be like a huge dog, but maybe like a mid size dog. Okay. So I mean, do you have breeds that you're looking at?

I know. I've never noticed how popular golden doodles are. Yeah. That's what I think I want to get is I did not know there was such a strong like popularity with them until recently, maybe just because like I've been paying attention to like dog stuff, but people love golden doodles like they love them. Well, I think that I love them from pictures. I don't know anything about like their demeanor or I've heard that they're very, very intelligent,

like very smart. I've heard mixed reviews on the shedding. Some people say they do shed. Some people say they don't. My aunt has two and my interior designer has one. I, they love their dog. They love their golden doodles. And Kate and Natalie, some Kaden wants a golden doodle really bad.

So I don't know. I've heard really good things at the same time, Natalie listening. She does not want to get Kaden a dog at all. I have literally like probably caused fights because I'm like, Oh, Kaden should get a dog. Like we should go to the shelter. Like let's go get Kaden a dog. Like she's probably wants to kill me. It's fine.

I love it. Wait. So, um, I need to ask you this because I know this is coming up for us. When is y'all spring break? Like, did you already have it? Are you having it soon? No, our spring break is in April. First two, but I feel like a lot of people's spring breaks have been like last week or

this week or whatever. And I'm like, that is so early. Yeah. You can't really go, you almost have to go to like Mexico or somewhere to get hot weather. Yeah. My, um, one of my best friends lives in Dallas and their spring break is always in March. It's always the week of my birthday in March. So I don't know.

That's not, I remember in college, that's what my spring break was. But the kids at where we live are April. It's always April. Yeah. So ours is April 5th through the 10th or something like that. And I think that's a, that's a perfect time. It's like right after Easter. Um, and we're going to Florida and I'm really excited to like go and take a trip and get

out of my little five mile bubble that like I travel into. Does anyone else ever feel like that? Or just like, I keep seeing the same shit every single day and I'm tired of seeing the same shit every single day. I, you know what? I am in Delaware and you literally can drive through the entire state in two and a half hours. Um, and so I, I have recently felt a little stir crazy in my state because there's nothing

here. It's literally, um, into over, like we don't even have a really good mall in Dover, Delaware. Like we don't have good restaurants at all. Like I think that's the thing that really irritates me. I know first world problems. I know. Um, but we don't have like good restaurants at all. Like there's not really a whole lot of like mom and pop restaurants that are super good.

It's all chain. Yeah. And it's just like they're very few farm and far between. And then the chain restaurants that we do have, honestly, they're not, they're like not really well ran. Um, so I really hate, you know, if anyone is listening to this and you're one of them, like, I just don't, they're just like not like, I don't know. And I don't know if it's just the area or what it is.

I'm not sure. Um, and then also we have like this, um, downtown Dover. It's, it could be really, really cool. Like, um, like small businesses, small shops, um, you know, things like that. But for whatever reason, um, nobody, like, I don't think that Delaware, Dover, Delaware like respects or supports small shops. And so every time there's a small shop down there and it's so cool. It's like all brick.

It's like, um, brick sidewalks, um, nice buildings. Yeah. And it could just be like, it could be a really, really good area. Um, but no, none of the shops stay open because nobody supports. Or maybe COVID. Um, but, but then again, before COVID, even way, way, way, way before COVID, nobody was opening their small businesses or when they did, they, um, they eventually like left and it's just really, really sad.

So it could be really cool here, but it's, it's just not well, I'm, I hate it. I hate that you have to see the same things and the same five mile square as I do. I'm just like, Oh my gosh, uh, April 5th can't come soon enough because I just want to change a scenery and like see new stuff. Are you guys going anywhere for spring break? No, um, we were going to go on a vacation, me and Jovi, um, we were going to go on a vacation and MTV was going to film it, but then, um, they decided to wrap the season next week and it just wasn't going to work out.

And so, um, I'm actually thankful that it didn't work out because I have been trying really hard to budget this year and I don't think that right now, um, I don't want to spend that money, um, cause I want it to go towards my house. So I'm thinking next year I'll do like a big, like a, cause we didn't go on vacation last year either. So I'm thinking next year we'll do like a big vacation. Sorry. Geez.

I'm not, don't have Rona and I'm not passing away. Um, I wanted to say, shall we start something on the podcast, like a segment for like just a couple of minutes about how we budgeted, like maybe like a week or something or maybe a month because I think that would kind of be cool. Like, yes, but also we need listener participation because Oh my God, that's like bringing me back to my childhood listener participation. We do like, because I feel like they can give us ideas and then we can give them ideas on what we do.

I know that, um, some people do the envelopes, envelopes, whatever, um, where they put cash down in it and like separate it out. Is that the Ramsey Gordon method? I'm not sure what the method is, but I know I've seen it before. Um, I've never done it before, but I just want to know like how people do budget, like where do you start, what's reasonable because I've also heard like just from having conversations with girlfriends, different budgets for like different things. Like sometimes one person that I'll talk to their budget for groceries seems like a lot.

And then another person that I talked to their grocery budget seems like you can't survive. So I'm just like trying to figure out what's within normal range. And then also it's different for everyone, right? Because different people have different sized families. So then like that's taken into consideration, but I think it would be kind of fun to talk about and how to budget or how to save for a trip or, um, to do those kind of things. Yeah, I have two friends that Kristen is one of them. She is a budget extraordinaire.

Like she budgets for her mom, her husband, herself, like she's like just like very good at it. Um, she should, she could truly be like a financial advisor, um, but like she budgeted for a vacation this year and that's been something that she's been like budgeting for for a while and not to put her business out there. And then I have another friend who also she has three kids and she's married. Um, they bought their own house, um, fairly recently, I'd say within like the last three years or whatever.

Um, and I had invited her somewhere and I might have said this before, but, um, you know, she was like, that doesn't actually fit in our budget. But if we plan something like ahead of time, like I could totally do it. And so I, I have been doing it's, it's, but actually felt really fucking good to say no to certain things because I am cutting out unnecessary spending. Um, and if you guys follow me on Instagram or any type of social media, you guys are like, no, I go on vacation with my kids all the fucking time. Like I won the two vacations every single year.

Um, that's just something I never did as a child. And so the fact that I'm able to do that is a huge thing for me. And so I really do take advantage of it for my kids. Um, but you know, in order to build the house that I want to build, um, I have to sacrifice a little bit. And then on top of that is it's true, like the, the grocery thing. Um, I don't have my kids every other week. I only have the babies.

Well, obviously we're eating minimally when it's only me and Lux on the weeks that I don't have my other kids, but then on top of it, like tomorrow and Friday, I'm going to be in Philly for two days. So then it's like, how do you budget when you don't, we don't know when work trip, like this work trip to Philly tomorrow is so last minute, it was literally planned in a week and a half. How do you budget for things when we have shit like that come up and then how do you, what if I already went grocery shopping before this was planned?

You know what I mean? So that is the part that I struggle with and then do I, how do I budget the food that I'm going to order when I'm out, when I'm away for two days, like, I don't, that's where I struggle. And it's so hard, um, to really stick to a budget when it, when things are like that. But I also think that then there's the aspect of being an entrepreneur and knowing that like things come up outside of the ordinary. It's not part of a daily schedule that kind of like adds another element to budgeting,

but maybe that goes into a monthly work budget where it's like, okay, we can afford to do this this month and then whatever wasn't spent from that month, maybe can like roll over into the next. That's true. That's a good point. Like where it wasn't. So, you know, maybe set like a certain amount aside each month and then if it wasn't used then it can roll into the next month.

So then it's not like, oh, I'm coming out of pocket X amount of dollars, like unreasonably. But a lot of people do like envelopes of cash where it's like, okay, well, this is fast food. And like once that's gone for the month, then you're just not eating fast food. Like you have to eat at home or like, you know, eating out budget or whatever. I don't roll off of a cash basis. Um, honestly, I'm not responsible enough to. So same, so much same.

I tried it. I did try it. Um, briefly tried it and I was like, this is never going to work for my lifestyle. Um, and I do know that it does take some self discipline and willpower, but like just the way that I, I just don't know that it would ever work for me. I want to know how many people roll off of cash, have cash on them all the time. Or if you're strictly debit or credit card user, because I am strictly debit or credit card user, I pay everything like every month, but I just don't ever have cash.

Like it's never a thing. Anybody ever stole my wallet, you would get nothing because I have no cash in there. I might have like a couple of pinnies, but I did. I will say that I have made it a point to anytime I, um, deposit checks, I will take a couple dollars out just for like tipping purposes, if I'm at the car wash and I, you know, tip them to drive, you know, whatever they do for the car wash or, um, haircuts is a big thing. I get my kids haircut every other week.

And so I always, they usually only take cash for the haircuts, um, but Kristen and my financial advisor have, so my, my Middletown house was obviously more expensive than the house I live in right now, um, that extra money that I would be spending on that mortgage has been going into an account. And so it's like I'm still spending it. And then also, um, Kristen has always made sure that more money comes out than I need for taxes. Um, so that way, if I have leftover, it's like, okay, that's great.

You know what I mean? So I, those are two things that I highly recommend. So I know that Kristen had said, and we might even be able to have her on the podcast about her, like how she budgets, cause I think they're, I think whenever we do this segment, we should have different perspectives on and like what works for different people. I, I'm pretty sure Kristen said that for when she paid off one of her things, she's also doing that, keep putting that away into like act like you're still paying it, but really it's going into like a savings or an investment account or whatever you have, um, for yourself.

I know like Isaac's getting braces in November. Like that's $6,000 and I have to split my insurance doesn't cover a single dime, um, and Joe and I are going to split that, but it's like those are expenses. Yes. That's a lot of money and I just feel like thank God I have at least budgeted to like cover those things. I have four kids. Could you imagine if all four of my kids need to braces?

I mean, I'm fine. I can figure out, but, um, you know what I mean? Like it's, it's, I never thought about budgeting the way I think about it today. I literally checked my credit score once a week. So I definitely love your, I love your idea of talking about budgeting. I love it. Okay. So another thing that I want to talk about while we're on relatable topics, it was something

that I thought about last week and I, then I didn't record so then I couldn't talk about it. And I was like, dang, I've got like to wait another week to talk about this. Okay. So people who go through divorces and they have children and they keep their soon to be ex's spouse's last name. I want to know different perspectives on that just I'm genuinely curious, like if I was in that situation, I would restore my maiden name because that's who I am.

Like I'm no longer the person that you're married to. And I don't, or wouldn't want that last name association, even though my child has it. Does that make sense? Yes. Um, I actually have a cousin who was in the situation and she opted to, um, keep her new last name or her husband married last name. Yeah. Her married.

Thank you. Her married, um, last name because it matched the kids and her ex. So it was still like they were like some amount of a family, um, they all matched. Um, but they did also consider, she did get remarried. They did also consider, um, because he also had kids, um, has kids, um, combining the last names to make a new last name. So it kind of matched both of them, but matched their blended family. Like I thought, honestly thought it was the cutest fucking thing.

So it would be like, um, um, you can use my like Jackson as an example. Okay. Yeah. So say, say, um, you know, you and Will were like remarried, um, and you were, so it'd be like Chris Bull instead of Campbell and Chris Lee would be like Chris Bull Jackson. So I thought that was like really cute, but that would be for like a blended family, um, with their last name. And then so that the kids, the step siblings would have different last names, but the parents

would have something combined so that they felt like a full, I thought it was really fucking cute. Like if I ever get remarried, like that's something that would be so fucking cute to me. But then again, I have 12 kids. So with 12 different last names. So then again, maybe not. It would be like at that point, it would just be like letters. Honestly.

You know, let me try to write something out actually, I want to see if I could like, I'm just going to combine all my kids last names and then I'll make that mine. Hold on one second. I love it. Well, I'm not holding on. I want to say this, but while you're writing, not holding on. Okay. And maybe this is just like a feminist perspective, but also why is it a thing that in 2021 that

kids don't have both parents? What is it called? Like surnames? Like, yes. Why is that a thing? Like why is it only the dad's last name? I mean, I can't speak to that just because, well, I wanted to hyphenate Isaac's last name a couple years ago because I felt like I, I felt like that was fair.

Like, I understand Lincoln because Javi and I were married, but Creed is Lowry Lopez and and that when the judge made that decision, she said that it needed to be fair. And so then Chris wants to do Lux Lowry Lopez. I'm not going to fight it. If he wants it, then I'm not going to fight it. I also want to hyphenate Isaac's because I feel like it is 2021. And so why are they only having one? And is that just unrealistic, like an unrealistic thought that I'm thinking?

No, I don't think so. I don't think so at all. Although I did have a friend who, again, same thing when they got married, she won't shoot. They both were set on creating a new last name that was not hers and that was not his, but some form of something like theirs blended or a completely new last name for the simple fact of, of that is like, you're not my property. I'm not taking your last name.

You're not taking my last name. You know, we're going to come up with something new together or, or we're not going to change our last names at all. And I guess it's more of a thing when I think about it, I'm just like, okay, why is, why is it more, why does it feel like it's more your child than my child because of the last name? Like when I think about it, I'm like, okay, if I, if I wanted Jackson, for example, to have my mate have something to do with my maiden last name, I would have had to use that as

a middle name versus hyphenating, which I'm hyphened, like I'm Chris Lee Campbell. So I don't know, which is like, it's very weird to me. And I'm just like, okay, we should be advocates for making this a normal thing, like normalizing hyphenated last names. Yes. I know in, I think it's like the Hispanic culture, they take on, I think they do something similar to that. They do.

Yeah. I think it's like their, don't quote me on this, but I know they take on like some, some, some families take on several last names. And then it's like, I don't want it to be like 20 names, you know, right, right, right. No, but I, but they can, as an adult, they would be able to choose like what feels right to them or continue using both. Or like I said, a hundred times combining it at some point when they're older, when they're married, you know what I mean?

So I definitely understand it. I just, have you ever met someone that has like a hyphenated last name and then they pick the one that like they use one more than the other, like whatever one they feel comfortable with. Yes. And had I had that option, you know, I have my dad's last name, my sperm donor's last name. I, to this day in my entire life wished that I was an Irwin, which is my mom's last name

because I identified with my mom's family who took care of me day in and day out for a long time. And to this, to this day, I have contemplated back and forth, do I change my last name to Irwin? Wow. So I just change all your kids last names to like, or maybe hyphenate, can I hyphenate my own last name? Like, you know what I mean?

And I know it's so, it sounds so trivial and it sounds, I just dropped my phone. It sounds so trivial and like something that wouldn't be important to some people, but it's something that I've, like I used to, on Facebook, I used to go by my mom's last name, Kale Irwin, like I used to, when I was in high school. So I just, I don't know, like I feel like it's an identity thing. And I don't know if I'm, I'm focusing on that now because I have other stuff that I should be worried about, but I'm trying to like cover it up. I don't know, but it's definitely something I think about on a dated, like a, if not a

daily basis, definitely a weekly basis is like, who am I? Why am I not an Irwin? Should I hyphenate my name? Should I change my last name? Should I hyphenate Isaac's last name? Like that's, that's a real thing. So I think this is a good point, Lindsay. And then I was thinking too, I was like, okay, for moms who have been in divorce situations

when it comes to like school papers, like you've literally raised your kid for however many years up until you get, you know, divorced. And then you're like a different last name now, like, you know what I mean? It's like, there's no, so just, I'm just going to play hypothetical. Like in my situation, if I just became like Lindsay Chrisley, but not Lindsay Chrisley Campbell, and I was filling out papers, like that would just be weird that Jackson was Jackson Campbell. Right.

Instead of. Yeah. And I just wonder like how people deal with those situations like, I don't know. That is such a good point. I, I didn't know other people thought about this the same way I, I think about it definitely more than I should. So I'm glad that you do think about it because I was thinking about it the other day and I was just like, it's kind of abnormal for me to even be thinking about this in the first

place. But then I was just like, wait, like this doesn't make sense. And then I was like, well, wait, this might be like more feminist view point on this. And you know, there are some people that are super, super traditional that are like, this will sound insane to them because they're like, Oh, wow, like you should want to take your husband's last name and marriage and you know, whatever. But it's like, why is that person more important than your identity that you came with? I think it just goes back to like a traditional, you know, that those traditional beliefs and

value system still kind of like ingrained in people. I never, I never took on Javi's last name when we were married. I did hyphenate it on social media because it was important to him. But for me, my brand was already my name, which also contradicts how I feel about my own name. But yeah, I do think it's definitely there's a lot to be said about it. I would be curious to see what people think about it. You know what made me actually, I just thought of this, what made me started thinking about

this? What was Kim Kardashian? Oh, yeah, I wanted to know where the thought started. I wanted to know what she was going to do with KKW because I think she'll end up keeping it because she again wants to match her kid's last name. But I'm surprised she didn't hyphenate the kid's last names. Same, but I mean, but what is she going to do with KKW? She's going to call it KKW or she's going to call it KK beauty.

Is she going to keep it? Is she going to drop it? Like very, very, very intriguing. That's what made me go on this long tangent about these last names. All of the Kardashian, none of the Kardashian kids have Kardashian or Jenner except for Dream. But that surprises me. That surprises me about all of them.

Like True Thompson. I'm surprised that Kardashian was not hyphenated. Same for Stormy Webster. Like I'm, I'm very, very curious about that. Well, their parents are so well known that like Stormy Webster is also Stormy Kardashian. I mean Stormy Jenner. True. True.

Not Kardashian. Like Jenner's and the Kardashians and the Websters and the Wests and the Thompson's and the. Could you imagine being one of those kids when they're older and they're like, yeah, my mom, my mom is Khloe, my uncle is Travis Scott, my uncle Scott Disick, my uncle is Kanye West. And then it's like True is like, or Stormy is like, yeah, my mom's Kylie Jenner and my aunt is Kim Kardashian and Khloe Kardashian. Like what a fucking royal family.

Like I can't, not royal, but you know what I mean. You're like, I mean, maybe also this sounds stupid, but I mean, in our world of entertainment, they are royal. Like, yeah, like the closest thing, the closest thing, which makes me think of something that we talked about the other day was what does our generation look like as grandparents? Like, I literally said this. I'm like, I'm going to like, did I not tell this story about the older couple in front of me leaving, um, Lex's school the other day?

I don't know. If you did her last fucking week, it was like, they had like their old, old school new balances on and like cute little couple, like so excited about their grandparents. And I literally was walking off of the, um, out of the gate with like my Yeezy's on and a snakeskin jacket. Like that's going to be me in like 2030 or wait, no, not 2030, like 2050, like I'm going to be rolling up in my blacked out fucking truck with some Yeezy's on and the kids are going to think that's normal.

Like they're not, we're not going to be these like cute little grandparents with like their cute little outfits and they're so cute and they get their hair done every Saturday. No, we're going to be like blow out our face beat. Like we're going to, I don't understand. Like how is that even a thing? We're not even going to know how to like make Christmas cookies or make a turkey on Thanksgiving. Like we don't know that how to do that stuff. Why is our generation like this?

And can we also just briefly talk about the new generation saying that side parts like aren't a thing anymore and skinny jeans either. I've been rocking a middle part for quite some time. So like I'm, I'm very on brand. Yeah. But the skinny jean thing I really can't get behind because there's certain outfits that I'm just like, you kind of need a tighter fit jean. So I'm not really with that.

And I also really back to the point of our generation being grandparents. I don't know if it's everyone or if it's just us, but I cannot imagine either of us, either of us being grandparents. No, I don't know. My kids are going to, and I'm fully tattooed also. So that's going to be, um, that's going to be very interesting. I'm, I'm, yeah. I can't like, I cannot, if I see you being a grandma and you're wearing Yeezys, I'm going

to be like, okay, Kale, like we need to dial it back probably because we look like psychopaths. Like, I'm not wearing like these old school new balance. Like I'm not going to do, I'm not going to wear clogs. I haven't heard that word in forever. I'm not. Is that still a thing? Uh, clogs, clogs, like the Birkenstock clogs, like I'm not going to wear those. I'm not going to wear loafers.

I'm not going to wear any of those. So you will wear crocs. I will. Yeah. I will wear crocs. You're right. I will get fuzzy line crocs and, um, I'll wear those. I just want people to know what kind of psychos they're listening to because Kale had a nose

bleed this week and she used a pad to clean hers up and then at some point, like since Kale and I have known each other, I had a nose bleed and I use a tampon to absorb mine. So that's kind of where we are, um, at this point in our lives and, um, we should probably invest in some tissues, um, and yeah, like I just don't know why we are the way that we are, honestly, and I never want us to change. I normally have napkins in my car, in my truck, um, but, uh, and also I, I don't get nose bleeds. I've had two in like my whole life.

So, so I don't get them and I was leaving the gym. I think honestly, I just hadn't drank enough water this week. And so, um, after my workout, I didn't even know that my nose was bleeding until it was in my mouth. Like it like, oh my gosh, it was like dripping down. Yeah. And then I like felt the warmth. I was like, wait a minute.

That tastes like iron. I was like, this is not okay. I look up and there's just, it's like gushing. It splattered all over my shirt too, which I was like, not only is this like one of my very first nose bleeds, but also it's pretty bloody for like, it's not like just like a little bit of blood. And so I go open my center console and I had a pad, which cause you guys know I've had, you know, heavy bleeding and stuff like that.

Um, so I usually double up on tap pads and tampons. And so I happen to have one pad in there and I was just soaking it up like that. I wish I could have seen you opening the pad. I was like panicking. I pulled over in a McDonald's parking lot and was like panicking because I didn't want to get it on my new seat. Like my truck is still pretty new. I didn't want to get it on my seatbelt because it wouldn't come out.

I cannot wait. So you have to go just like a minute over because I need to know about your birthday weekend. Like I slept. Was it amazing? It was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. Everything you ever dreamed of and more.

Uh, yeah, it was, it very was. And you had a massage. Did you have good food? Uh, I was not impressed with the massage, Lindsay. I was actually very disappointed. It was not good. Um, I was just like, I'm a big bitch and you have to dig into my muscles. Like you have to dig in.

I like a deep one too. It just like wasn't, I just, it could have been better. So I definitely think I should do a redo on that probably no time soon just cause I don't have the time. But other than that, I just really loved to sleep. It was great and I felt very refreshed. You really felt like you were alive again. Yes, I really did.

I really, really did. That's amazing. I'm so happy for you. I can't wait to celebrate with, what did you say? What kind of food? Um, Puerto Rican food. Yep. We're going to celebrate with Puerto Rican food and, um, do a lot of things and we also

soon have another true crime episode coming up and we are partnering with some new friends on that. So that's really exciting. And yeah, the next time that you guys hear from us will be same time, same place next week. We'll just be doing it from Philly. Wait, what else? You forgot about, we have to tell them who we're going to have on the podcast for our

next bonus episode. Oh, tell them. We are going to have the host from the morbid podcast show, which is super cry true crime related. It's going to be such a good episode. I can feel it. I'm so excited about it. And for you guys who would like to prepare for this, we are talking about goal Joel guy

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