Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 152: Tooth Talk, Following Up On Some Things, and Sports Politics

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

This week Kail and Lindsie start off the podcast with a lot of teeth related talk. Kids are losing teeth, getting braces, and seemingly forgetting how to brush. Does anyone else struggle with their ki...d's personal hygiene habits? And Lindsie and Kail follow up on some topics from episodes past. More talk about maiden names and Lindsie gives an update on her journey to building a house. Plus, when your kids are involved in sports, it's basically inevitable to come in contact with drama and politics. The drafting, the rivalries, and the snacks! Kail and Lindsie have witnessed their fair share of drama when it comes to kids sports leagues.  This episode was sponsored by: Kencko, OSEA, & KiwiCo Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are you recording? Yeah. Oh, good morning, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Coffee Combo's podcast. This recording started about as good as my morning started. So here we are. What's wrong? What happened? My equipment, something got, you know, I'm like so not technologically is that the word savvy, tech savvy, like I am not at all. And so I go to turn on my recorder, make sure everything's going good. And all these things like keep popping up. I don't know what it is. I don't even know like how to fix it. Obviously you knew how to fix it. I'm just like, Oh my God, I hate when stuff happens with technology. My phone has been,
Starting point is 00:00:55 I guess, because new iPhones came out or whatever. I swear they have like a bug in older versions. So when the new ones come out, then the other ones break. So I've been having phone issues all week and nothing will save. It seems like Instagram on mine has been down. So I will go to like create a story. I recorded something for Coffee Combo's and then it just like went away, said it posted and it went away. So I'm just like, Okay, this week is officially canceled and I can't anymore. Great. Awesome. Well, I'm sorry that you've had a shitty morning and after this, don't you get to go to the dentist? So it's like a cherry on top. Oh, that's just the cherry on top. And you know, what's so weird speaking of the dentist is
Starting point is 00:01:47 that I used to hate going to the dentist as a kid and I don't love it like going as an adult, but it's probably like one of my least dreaded doctor's appointments or you know, whatever for the year. I love to go and get my teeth cleaned, but I do get a little bit of anxiety when the dentist goes to come in and like checks for cavities because I'm cavity prone. So am I. I'm big time cavity prone. You are. Yeah, I get so nervous. Do you? I always get nervous because I used to love going to the dentist when I was a kid because you know, my mom just never, my mom never took me. So like the handful of times that I did go, I just loved going because I felt like this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And I, I started to get them as like probably around Isaac's age. So I just, Isaac's 11 and I started, that's when I really started to get cavities and I don't know why. I don't know if it's just like genetic or what. I don't know. Like I get them normally like between my teeth and it's probably like not flossing good enough, but it's, it's so weird and Jackson has like, I don't want to say perfect teeth because no one has perfect teeth, but as far as like his dental has been concerned up until this point, literally no issues. So, but he did lose his second tooth this week. Oh, right in a row. That's exactly what happened with Lincoln. I pulled it on Sunday and it literally was just like dangling and
Starting point is 00:03:26 I said, come here and let me see it. Like we ate dinner and everything and I was determined I was going to get that tooth out and I went to touch it and I said, just let me touch it and he's like trying to move his hands and move my hands out of his mouth and you know, the whole thing. And I just literally barely pulled it and it just like popped out. So he let you tic-tacs. Yeah. My, my kids would never let me pull their tooth teeth out. What do you mean? They've all pulled their own teeth. Well, Lincoln's first tooth, he tied it. We tied dental floss to it and through a football and he was obsessed. Actually that actually the one year anniversary of that came up the other day and I reposted
Starting point is 00:04:08 it and he was like, I remember that. I'm like, uh, how could you, how could you forget? Yeah. First of all, who's that crazy that just like ties something to their tooth and just throws a football? I mean, I mean, we are talking about Lincoln here. This is true. This is very true. But wait, you have to tell me. So a lot of people wrote in and said that their kids also had shark teeth. So evidently it's more common than what we thought. Um, but do they go in line because I can see like, um, it looks like little bulbs, like where Jackson's teeth came out, but then that's where the other teeth are supposed to be, but they're not there yet. They'll push, they'll push over, but like how just like when they're
Starting point is 00:04:53 I don't know. I, yeah, I guess, I guess Lincoln's moved right up. I guess over time. I mean, I think your teeth are always shifting and moving. That's why they say like, if you get braces, you eventually have to wear your retainers at night forever because your teeth can still shift even after you've had braces. So I think it's just like evolution. It's insane. Like I'm just, I would look at them every single day, like a couple of times a day and I'm like, Oh, did they move? Did they move up? I'm so crazy about teeth. But then it made me think about you getting veneers and you went through like the whole braces process and like all of that. So then you covered them up with veneers. Do your teeth
Starting point is 00:05:38 underneath move? No, actually they haven't. And I think the veneers have helped with that. I will say that a lot of people get veneers without getting braces and I do think it does help. Like it can make a difference, but I really feel strongly about if you're wanting veneers, like I got luminaires. So I don't, they didn't shave my teeth down at all. My teeth are not shaved down to like little nubs like they do for like true veneers. But people who get like luminaires or veneers and stuff and don't fix their teeth underneath, I feel like you're doing yourself a disservice because they're going to look exactly the same just wider. I don't know though. But yeah, they don't, my upper teeth don't move.
Starting point is 00:06:21 They haven't moved. I don't wear my retainer on the top, but I keep my retain, I have a permanent retainer bar on the bottom. Oh, okay. Well, that, that makes sense. I've always wondered that since you got them, but then I just always forget to ask, is that weird? No, I don't think that's weird. I always think about it though. I'm always like, I wonder if Kale's teeth are moving down there. Like that's a weird thing for me to think about. My bottom teeth were actually really like just like not good. I'm going to post a before and after of my teeth. I think people would be like, what the fuck? Isaac gets braces in November. He has his a two week appointment before he gets them, like just like reevaluating
Starting point is 00:07:02 and then two weeks later, like we have to either like figure out our payment plan and then two weeks later, he gets them put on. And I'm nervous for him because I feel like younger boys without like someone constantly staying on them about like just hygiene and oral hygiene and all of that. Like they, they don't care as much and maybe for little girls too. I don't know. I just don't have one. But I do worry about him and I know I'm going to have to stay on him about his teeth. I think it's just boys in general with a hygiene, like no matter what age they are. I mean, I'm sure there are some outliers. People have kids that are like super good, but then I
Starting point is 00:07:40 just wasn't afforded that luxury. I'm always having to tell Jackson like take a shower, brush your teeth, comb your hair. We haven't gotten into the deodorant thing yet because he just doesn't smell, but it is a hassle. And like, I always feel so tired. I actually was talking to one of my friends about this this week that I always feel by the end of the day, I have reminded multiple people in my life to do things that I feel like are things that I shouldn't have to remind them to do. And it's a bit exhausting sometimes. I, it's exhausting. I feel like, and then even like prime example was last night when I checked the boys teeth before they went to bed. And I was like, Isaac, get back in
Starting point is 00:08:22 there and rebrush your teeth because you missed the corners. Like it's exhausting. How did you know that he missed the corners? Cause I look and I can see where he missed spots. I can't. I would never be like, there's like actual like buildup and I'm like, no, like go back in there and brush your teeth or like, there's no reason why my three year old, like if I'm watching you, my three year old is brushing better than you and you're 11. Like we need to do better. So get back in there and brush your teeth. And then I just also wonder too, there's multiple different legs off of this topic, but I just
Starting point is 00:08:58 wonder if this is a thing with girl moms as well, or if they're more cautious and just like know what to do. Cause I feel like girls are so far advanced from boys, like in a lot of different areas. So too, that's, I really believe that. Like I just feel like girls just do better. I don't know. They get it, you know? Yeah. I'm just like, Jackson, why am I having to tell you eight years old that you need to
Starting point is 00:09:28 brush your teeth before bed? You've been doing this since you had a first tooth. Like I don't understand. Like why are we still having this conversation eight years later? Like I don't get it. And what happens when you move out 10 years from now? That's what I'm worried about. That right there, you nailed it right on the head. I, that's what I'm worried about is how your hygiene is going to be. If I'm reminding you at 11, still the same shit every day. And not only that, but I have a whiteboard in their bathroom that literally set. It's like propped up against the mirror and it literally says, brush your teeth, flush the fucking toilet. I mean, it doesn't say fucking, but
Starting point is 00:10:09 in my head it does. Put deodorant and cologne on for Isaac. Lincoln, make sure you're flossing your damn teeth. I'm like, I, what is it going to take for them to like remember these things? And you know, it's crazy. Like if, if I tell the kids, okay, you've been on the electronics way too much. You guys need to go outside, whatever, whatever. I'm going to take the game for a couple of days. They will do anything as if they always do it, always remember. Correct. I'm like, Oh no, if you can remember to get the game back, like in order to get the game back to do these things, then you can remember with when you have it, like I'm fed up. I'm
Starting point is 00:10:43 fed the fuck up. I cannot. I'm so, okay. So first of all, this is so funny that you say that because do your kids also consider those as chores because I'm like, yes, no, these are things you're supposed to do every fucking day. Yeah, like you brushing your teeth is not checking off a checkmark on the chore chart like at all. No, no, if you want to work a nine to five or you want to work night shift or whatever, like you want to fold some laundry, you want to, you know, fold my gym shorts, like whatever, like, okay, but you brushing your teeth and properly wiping your ass is
Starting point is 00:11:23 not doing chores. I can't, I don't, I mean, maybe some people consider it to be like a thing that they check off, but like for me specifically, I just don't like I'm just not, that's not it. I honestly wish that there was a camera at my house every single night before bed and specifically in the morning because it's me going psycho saying you didn't brush long enough, put more toothpaste on the toothbrush. You didn't brush your hair. Did you even wash it? I don't know. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:11:55 That's another one with Isaac. That's another one with Isaac is did you even wash your hair? Like did you? Like what are they doing just like standing? No, Jackson will full blown be sitting in the shower letting the water hit him. And I'm like, I don't know. And I walk in the bathroom and it's like, like steamy and there's like a turd in the toilet with no toilet paper. And I'm like, okay, so obviously you didn't wipe your ass. You should, but you didn't wipe your ass. And now you're just sitting in your bathroom floor with water,
Starting point is 00:12:28 like water hitting you. So, um, yeah, our kids are great. They're road scholars. I can't. So what else is going on? So much has happened. I feel like in social media right now, like, did you, what was the update I sent you about, um, Max, what was her name? Elaine Maxwell. Yes. Well, did you read it? Oh, I read it. I just don't remember what it said. Oh, you don't remember? Because I don't remember something about she was, she was charged with,
Starting point is 00:13:15 um, trafficking. Was that what it was? Yes, I believe it was, she was charged with trafficking. I'm actually looking to see if I can find the link. Um, I have the shade room link that you sent me, which is not funny. I don't even know why I'm laughing. Um, stop, leave me alone. You're like, I don't even know why. I don't, I mean, honestly, at this point, I'm just like, you know, you just have to laugh to keep from crying.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Right. There's just so much. And then there was Quavo and Sweetie. If you guys are familiar with them, like their stuff that went viral on the internet, um, like so much has happened, I feel like online. When we actually talk about, um, social media for a second, because I feel like I've been a bit in my A on there and sometimes, and it's not even intentionally, but sometimes I wonder like how I have had time in the past to like be on it as much when I get in phases of my life, like I am right now, because I feel like I'm just too busy to be doing all of that. And, um, it's a bit overwhelming sometimes, like feeling like you're keeping
Starting point is 00:14:31 up with the Joneses on social media, you know? Yeah, I definitely have a hard time with that sometimes, just like trying to, I even texted Kristen, not that long ago, and I was like, am I doing something wrong where I just don't like, I wish that I could schedule like professional shoots and like do all of that. But like, I just don't have it in me. Like I don't have, first of all, Delaware doesn't, I don't have the access to that in Delaware, like hair, makeup and photographers, but like I want to do that. I just like don't have it in me to schedule it and like do it and like be consistent. But like, what is wrong with me that I can't do it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I don't know. Maybe we should like dub ourselves as like the worst influencers of influencing. I don't think I influence anybody's following what I do. Like no one's like, what's kill up to today? Like I just don't, they don't do that. Honestly, I have had such a push in probably the last, since I saw you and Philly really to like really find like a virtual assistant and I thought I found one and then it fell through, but to find someone that I can provide resources for, for all of the DMs that come through for people looking for links or like what I'm packing for my beach trips or my Disney itinerary and like stuff like that. I just don't have the time to like put it
Starting point is 00:15:59 all together. But if I had someone that could put it together, I would love to be able to have those resources on my page, but it's just like a lot of work. No, social media for people who like truly influence. It's a full time job and I hate when people are like, Oh, get a real job, but it's like, you know, in 2021 that is a real that's considered a real job. Like it's a real thing. So I always and I'm, and I don't feel like I do that. I don't, you know, if we're going on a work trip, obviously we'll have someone come and you know, take social media content and stuff like that. But you know, and thankfully we're able to do that and create the content when we're together
Starting point is 00:16:37 and doing that kind of thing. But influencers who do it on a regular basis and day to day at home and like know how to do all the things like that is a real job and that is a real skill and businesses, you know, really do sometimes do well because of their influencers. So I don't think that people should really knock influencing as a job. I know. And then I'm just like, sometimes I go on Instagram at the end of the day after I've done whatever I've done in the day. Like I don't even know what I could even tell you like the things that I do, but I'll go on there and I'll see people's stories and they will be like as many stories as possibly can fit on there. And I'm like, how did someone
Starting point is 00:17:19 possibly have that much time during the day to story themselves? I feel good. If I get on there and show my face one time a week on my story at this point and I just need to do better, but I can't. That's okay. That's okay. I'm just one of those people right now that just needs, do you feel like I have become like reclusive a little bit? I mean, I am a recluse anyway, but like, do you feel like you hear from media or Oh yeah, I definitely hear from you less. Like when I hear from you, I'm like, Oh shit, what's happening? But I think that's a good thing though. Like you're investing, you're investing in real time and real moments and you're, you know, and you're, you're being present. So I think
Starting point is 00:18:04 that's a good thing. Being present in real life. Well, I wanted to tell you, I looked up the New York Times article on Elaine Maxwell. It said, this is exactly basically what you sent me just an Instagram version, um, that she was charged with sex trafficking of a 14 year old girl. It says new indictment accuses Miss Maxwell of paying a victim of her longtime associate Jeffrey Epstein. So, um, it says that the new federal indictment was filed in Manhattan, charged on multiple occasions between 2001 and 2004. The girl provided nude messages to Mr. Epstein at his Palm Beach, Florida estate, during which he engaged sexual acts
Starting point is 00:18:42 with her. The new charges against Miss Maxwell go further than those contained in earlier indictment that accused her of helping Mr. Epstein recruit, groom, and ultimately sexually abuse girls, but did not include sex trafficking allegations. It says that after the girl provided Mr. Epstein with the massages, Miss Maxwell or others who worked for him paid for the girl, paid the girl hundreds of dollars in cash. So, um, yeah, honestly, I'm not surprised by this at all. But what I am surprised by is the fact that she's still alive. I guess I'm surprised by anyone that's like, I mean, I guess money talks though too, like anyone who would be willing to again, defend someone like this and try to, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:19:32 like, I just have a problem with her defense team. But I guess that's their job. Well, again, would love to, you know, go back to law school and be an attorney, but, and honestly, a criminal attorney, I think would be awesome. But then inevitably you are defending crooks. So, you know, like from a moral standpoint, I think that would be really hard. So, um, her counsel actually did not respond to requests for comment on the new charges. So, I found that to be interesting too. Um, kind of in the same criminal activity, um, conversation, um, going off of our last week's episode with Joel, Joel, I can't talk today. I'm just stuttering.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Can you speak? Yeah, evidently not. Um, we released a bonus episode, um, covering the Joel Guy Jr. case. And I guess one of the things I said was like, could you imagine going to school with, you know, a murderer like this and someone on our coffee convos podcast fan page on Facebook tagged me, um, I know that you don't, you just don't get on social media, um, especially Facebook. So, um, I actually read this and someone posted, um, her name's Elizabeth and I don't want to say her last name because I don't want if she didn't say whether I could say that or not. Um, but she said after listening to the episode, she had a story to tell about
Starting point is 00:21:06 going to school will work with a murderer. Um, and she worked with this woman closely at a nursing facility. It became good friends. They shared a birthday. She knew her daughters went to her house, met her husband, all the things and it happened in 2015. Um, she said that this case made national headlines and I do think I heard this case, but I don't know if it was this one or if it was a different one, but similar. Um, it was the story of Michelle Wilkins, a woman, I think it's pronounced dinel lane lured her into her home to pick up baby clothes from Craigslist. Michelle was seven months pregnant at the time. This woman cut her baby out of her stomach and left Michelle to die, but Michelle survived. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:21:46 she did lose her baby girl at the hands of dinel. Um, and she, Elizabeth said that while she considers this murder, the state of Colorado, Colorado did not. Um, she said they drifted apart over the years before she did this and a part of her wants to think that she wasn't that person when they were close, but it gives her chills to the bone knowing that she considered someone, a friend who created, who committed such a horrendous act. Um, and I just can't, I just absolutely cannot imagine. I honestly can't imagine either. And I know that we talked about it on that episode, but I, okay. I weirdly think that people are kind of born the way that they are going to be. I think that you definitely can like pick up things from, pick
Starting point is 00:22:31 up things from like traumas and whatever, but I do think that, um, people's brains to some degree are wired the way they are whenever they're born. And so, um, I just wonder people like serial killers, for example, was something like always wrong. And we talked about this a little bit on the episode too, being parents. Um, how much responsibility is placed on the parents after the fact of someone committing all of these acts, not that it's the parents fault, but like, were there any warning signs of that type of behavior that would lead them to believe that their child could do something like that and then just didn't get them help. I'm not saying their child was like killing things, but if you read anything about serial
Starting point is 00:23:27 killers or, um, people who commit acts like that, a lot of times they start with animals or, um, I know that I have read that they'll like dismember, uh, Barbie dolls and like weird stuff like that. And so I just wonder, um, what the warning signs would even be like behaviorally. Does that make sense? Um, I do think, no, totally makes sense. I do think that, um, some, some people, they're already prewired when they're born. I do believe that just because I, it's science. I feel like, like just like mental illnesses, some of them you're born with them, some of them you can develop over time, depending on traumatic events, things in your life. Um, for the murder situation, I think that there's just some,
Starting point is 00:24:22 I am trying to come to like get my thoughts into, um, to say them. Um, I think a lot of them have had like head injuries because I think after we talked about it on the pot, the last episode, like on our bonus episode, people were saying that like, um, like think about Aaron Hernandez, right? Like he had multiple brain injuries. And then actually, now that you bring that up, another person on our coffee combos fan page on Facebook said that her brother is in prison for murder. Um, and she has a three year old son. She works in a classroom and they have the same biological parents and it's, she said for the nature versus nurture thing is very interesting, but he did have a head injury.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Wow. So see, and I asked her, yeah, I said, do you have a car relationship with him still? And she said she does. She goes in season when she can and writes to him when she can, but that's interesting to me because the head injury thing makes a lot of sense. And then I think someone else said, um, that that Ted Bundy had a head injury. Was it Ted Bundy? That's who I was thinking about whenever I was talking about serial killers. I was like Ted Bundy, like, I mean, you would, it would lead you to believe if he didn't have a head injury that he did because of the way that he, I mean, yes, I would, I would imagine that a lot of serial killers, if you really did research or if there was like any studies
Starting point is 00:25:46 when they died, any studies ton on their brains or whatever that they would have some type of traumas to, to their brain. But does it just cause it to not develop? Like, is that, um, We should get a psychologist. I know, psychiatrist. That would be amazing because I just, I don't know. I would like, I would like to know, and it would be interesting to know from people that knew them and life before committing those acts. If they felt that like things were off or weird, maybe not just the parents, but like other people who also knew them. Um, like that woman was saying that you read, I think you said her name was Elizabeth was
Starting point is 00:26:31 her friend or former friend like that when she knew her. And that's a really interesting take because I feel like sometimes people do just snap also. So I just to, to have a thought to cut a baby out of someone's stomach. I mean, you have to be a different kind of fucked up. Like that's even next level, um, murder shit. Because I mean, how are you, do you really think that you're going to get one, get away with murder because you're killing the mother, but two, you had to lure them in and three, like you have this baby now that is not biologically yours and you stole him or her. Um, I just, I can't, I don't under, like I, that's next level shit. There had to have been, you were,
Starting point is 00:27:24 you were definitely doing things in your life leading up to this point. You don't just all the sudden out of nowhere are having thoughts like this to do something like this. Correct. Like that wouldn't even, that's not like a snapped moment. You know what I mean? Right. Right. I mean, I think about, um, just certain cases that I've heard and I'm like, okay, obviously that person snapped to a degree. I don't know their mental health history or anything like that, but obviously this was a snapped situation, but correct. Like nobody just snaps and cuts a woman's stomach open with a baby in there. Like that's, that's next level stuff. Okay. We got a lot of messages about the last name thing. Obviously that
Starting point is 00:28:22 was a huge topic and a lot of people had different opinions, but a lot of messages that came through said the reason that it wouldn't work would be because then people would end up with like 16 last names because let's say first generation that started and you have somebody that has, okay, let's use me for example, like Chris Lee Campbell and then I married somebody that also had two last names and then their kids would have like four last names. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So there has to be a way around. There has to be a way around it. And then there was this one mom blogger that had posted and it was very interesting and it actually is what made me have the thoughts about it from the jump
Starting point is 00:29:10 is people who aren't in married situations that maybe are dating or maybe aren't even dating, maybe got pregnant and have the thoughts of do I give the dad, do I give the baby the dad's last name? That was me with Isaac. Right. And so I don't think under normal circumstances that I like, I, first of all, I was so young and like my mom was kept, kept saying give the baby your last name. But then Joe was like, obviously we were, oh, I was 17. You know, we'll get married one day. You should give him my last name. And so it was just one of those things where I just was like, I don't know. I don't know. It's just so interesting to that mom blogger was saying that basically, um, she wishes that she gave her child her
Starting point is 00:30:05 last name and how she related to it so much. And I just think that there's so many different scenarios that, um, can play into that situation because everybody is not married when they have a child. And so I think that's definitely something to think of. I can tell you right now if I was not married and conceived Jackson, I absolutely would have given him my maiden name. Yeah. Like no, wouldn't have even been a question, a question. Yeah. Totally. I just, it's so weird, like thinking back and like what we would do, like what we know now and what we wish that we could have changed, you know, it's very, it's, I mean hindsight is always 2020. I know you all love when I say that hindsight. So what has been going on
Starting point is 00:30:55 in your world? Like tell me, um, let's see. Well, my new wallpaper line came out with my collab with wall blush. So I was very, very excited about that. And, um, I am just so excited. I went to, um, the lot that I bought yesterday. I took the kids there and they had new stakes out. So we're just right now waiting on the permits still from the city. Um, and actually I think what's today? Today is Wednesday. By the end of the week, the driveway should be in. Um, and so right now I am just doing like a gravel driveway because it's, it's a really long driveway and doing pavement right now is would be like $50,000. So, um, I'm just doing gravel right now. Um, and the new stakes were in. So I'm
Starting point is 00:31:40 going to meet, um, the builder out there on Friday morning because he wants to just make sure that I, uh, initially, I can not talk today. I don't know what's going on. Um, initially we were going to like caddy corner the house a little bit. So it wasn't directly facing the road, but I'm thinking he wants to change it. So I'm going to meet him out there on Friday morning to see like what his idea was and how I feel about it. Um, and I think Lincoln is super pumped because I told him we would do a detached garage with like a little training facility underneath. You know how they have like indoor turf? Yes. So I'm going to do like a detached garage and I don't have like, like, I don't need
Starting point is 00:32:14 to do like a workshop like or anything like. So I think you'll do like, um, could you imagine me having like a lawn mower and like jamming out like doing lawn work? I don't know. Oh my God. That would be actually amazing. Can you do that please? I mean, I don't know that I'll even know how to cut. I've never cut a lawn in my entire life. So, um, I will, I will try. I would, that would be hilarious. Um, I'm telling you the simple life with Lindsay and Kale that, that could really be a 2.0 and Paris Hilton just launched her production company. So I say we pitch it to her. We definitely should because that would be some funny stuff. Like really, really funny. If I saw you on a lawn mower, I'd probably like pass out.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I just, I really do want to have one of my guy friends, like maybe Mark, um, could come out and like teach my kids how to mow the lawn because that's like a skill that I want them to know how to do. Yeah. And it definitely needs to come from someone who's actually done it before because you also don't know how to do it. Could you imagine me like learning how to use a lawn mower and then teaching that like trying to teach the kids at the same time, like, this is how you do it. This is what you do. They would be like, mom, are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:33:26 That would be TV gold, honestly. Like that's amazing. I love it. But yeah, so just like home stuff and then, um, Lincoln's back in football. He's got, um, he's in two leagues right now. So he does, he has games twice a week for his leagues. And I think virtual school is coming, is dwindling down to the end. My kids are kind of losing patience and all hope in virtual school. So, okay. So I have a couple of things to say because, um, people have been messaging me about life updates and just like what's going on because I have kind of been a little bit MIA and it's so funny, like how people even notice like, I think, oh, like nobody
Starting point is 00:34:07 will notice if I just like don't post whatever. Um, but yeah, a lot of life things going on. Um, actually our land deal ended up falling through, um, the permitting and the, um, it was going to be, I was telling everyone on here before that it was going to be a multiple home development. So I think four or five homes and, um, the investor ended up falling through last minute. Um, the closing got delayed several times and I mean, you know how it goes. So yeah, I know how it goes. That ended up happening, but I am convinced that everything happens for a reason. And I know in my life, like where I'm personally at that there was a reason that that happened.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And I am kind of glad that it did. Yeah. And I'm just, um, moving forward with other plans. And so I'm not ready to share those yet, but when I am, I will, um, I just know that everything does truly happen for a reason and we don't understand those reasons sometimes whenever they're happening and sometimes they make us upset and you know, we want to try to change the narrative and all of that. But I kind of feel a bit relieved because it was something that was weighing heavy on me. And I knew that it was something that I probably shouldn't proceed on because of other life things. Right. But because I was so thick in it that you couldn't like go back. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yes. I mean, that's pretty much
Starting point is 00:35:45 how my life happens. That's what happens in my life on a regular basis is like, I know I shouldn't be doing X, Y or Z, but I'm so thick in it that there is no turning back and there's probably consequences for turning back even though those consequences may be less than if I was to like go all the way through and make these decisions. Like, you know what I mean? Yes. Um, but that is literally the story of my life and I'm trying to avoid that. So I'm, I'm glad for you that it fell through because if you didn't ultimately have like a good feeling about it, that's literally what happened with my last house. Like I knew in the back of my mind I wanted to build and that was something that I wanted, that I wanted
Starting point is 00:36:21 to do, but I was like, no, I'll just get this house. It's so perfect. It wasn't. And I knew that in the back of my mind, but I was like, no, I'm going to make it good kind of thing. So I, I totally hear you. And I just didn't want to be in a position to make things in my personal life harder than what things sometimes already are. And so, um, I don't know. I just, I believe that there's a reason for it all. And even though I'm sad that that process is kind of not over for me, but like halted, I guess. Um, it allows me to free up space to take care of other things that I need to take care of that, um, are far more pressing than that. So it just, um, yeah, but it's just kind of sad because I was hoping that
Starting point is 00:37:11 we would be able to go through that process together. But honestly, I plan to travel a little bit more, um, in the coming months or over the next year. And, um, I think that it'll allow my mind to be in other places that it needs to be right now. So I think that that's really good. And I know that we have so many plans for coffee combos coming up and, um, we're really excited because Kale's assistant is coming onto coffee combos to help us like on the back end of stuff full time. So that's really exciting. And I think that, um, we'll be able to provide things. Sometimes we'll say, Oh, well, we need to post this or we need to post that. And then we don't cause we forget about it or time
Starting point is 00:38:02 doesn't allow. So I think that'll be, um, really good too. And Kale, do you ever feel like, and also this is to everybody who's also listening, do you ever feel like, um, by the end of the day, you don't know what you did, but you did everything? Yes. I mean, that's again, story of my life is like, I swear I did everything, but did I do anything at all? Yes. That's how I feel for the past literally since I've gotten back from Philly, I wake up and I'm just like, okay, and now I almost feel like I need to write down everything that I did so I can see what I did because I forget what I did. Um, 100%. Even today, I couldn't under like, I knew I had to take my dog to the vet at 10 and I was podcasting
Starting point is 00:38:51 with you at 11, but I was like, is there something else going on in my head? Because I don't know what I'm, I don't know what's what like, where is the rest? What am I doing? Like what is the rest of my task list? I don't know. It's weird. Is it mom brain? Is it being, is it COVID for the past two years? Like what is it? Um, I actually had this conversation with someone who I say lives more mainstream, but just doesn't have the crazy life that I feel like I have. And you also have, I think it might be a combination of mom brain, but also entrepreneurship and not being able to compartmentalize a lot of times because like there's multiple things going on in different areas of your
Starting point is 00:39:36 life that you need to like take care of every single day. And it's not like there's just one day of your life where it's like, okay, I'm going to focus on just coffee combos today. And then I'm going to focus on just this day. Like that's not a luxury that I'm personally given. So I feel like maybe it's just a combination of those things. Right. Yeah. No, I definitely think it's a combination. And I think maybe it's everyone, everyone struggles with this stuff, but in different like a variation of it. Correct. So wait, what's going on in the team mom world? Anything? Team mom world. I just know that they're trying to schedule a reunion for in person.
Starting point is 00:40:17 What? May. Yeah. So they're trying to schedule in-person reunion for May. I know that we're on a little bit of a hiatus right now as far as production we've finished the season, um, filming wise, like in, in the field. Um, but they're looking at the end of May for in-person in, I believe New York city. Um, if, if they can figure out like the quarantining situation, cause I'm, I think me, I'm the only one that can drive to New York. I think honestly, Leah probably could too, if they, if she didn't want a quarantine for a couple of days, I, I basically said, I'm not really willing to take five days out of my life without my kids and my dogs to go there for five days. Um,
Starting point is 00:41:00 because that would include a quarantine, but if I'm not traveling, I'm literally driving my car. Um, I'm not willing to be away from my kids for, for that amount of time. So I, I gave them the two days out of that week that I would be willing to do it. And, um, I know, um, Leah could probably drive if she wanted. I think it would be like, it would be far. It would be like six hours, but, uh, if she didn't want a quarantine. Um, but other than that, um, I'm trying to think like what else, I mean, I don't know if we're getting another season that hasn't been discussed at all. And with a two month break, I don't know what that looks like. So, um, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Well, I feel like, um, maybe you should come to New York and we should get some content while we're there. Yeah. Maybe I would actually love to do that. I, I love going to New York and I know that you hate it, but like I, I love going so much. Like it's one of my favorite places to travel and in the spring time, that's like the best time to travel there. So I would totally be down if that was May. Um, but it's so weird because I feel like, but since coronavirus like, does anyone else feel like you don't remember what life was kind of like before then? Absolutely. Don't remember. I don't remember what it was like to, I think the last time
Starting point is 00:42:18 that I got like ready and I like went out, out without a mask, without anything, without like probably was before I found out I was pregnant with Creed was probably around the time that bear died. Um, I remember like going out to not a club. It was like a bar, I guess with music or whatever. And like, I didn't even get like drunk or anything, but like, I went out with the girls and I feel like that was, it'll be two years ago in August. Literally it's so insane. And wait, I wanted to touch on the digital learning thing. It's so crazy that your kids are still in digital school because I feel like in Georgia, don't even get me started, but the way they do things here is so asked backwards half the time,
Starting point is 00:43:05 75 to 90% of the time actually, but, um, our kids have been back in school like Jackson could have gone back in school in August. Oh, full time, full time. Like they, they open schools up. He didn't, but they open schools up, but I'm kind of like getting to that point. And I think it's just like the point of the year, like by the time spring break comes and whatever as moms, you're just ready for your kids to be out and not doing the school. It's like, okay, we don't want to wake up at six a.m. anymore. We don't want to, you know, just do this whole song and dance every single day. Um, but I'm sure people who are still doing virtual learning are probably like, girl, don't complain because
Starting point is 00:43:49 we wish we were taking our kids and dropping them off. Right. Right. It's like you always want what you can't have and you can't satisfy everyone kind of thing. Oh my gosh. I know. So, um, next week we're actually heading to Florida. Um, and I hope that it's not again, No, it'll be, I think that'll be really nice for you guys to just get away and like have a little bit of a slice of normalcy. Um, cause it's just so it's, I don't know what it will be like when we don't have to wear masks anymore. Like that just feels so foreign to me now.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Like how, what is that going to look like? I literally have no idea, but I'm also a little bit stressing because it is spring break time. I know a lot of spring breaks happen in March. So that took care of a lot of people, but they're like, all of Georgia's spring break is literally next week. So yeah, ours is too. I'm just like stressing out a little bit about it. I'm staying somewhere that's kind of a private area and it has a private beach. So I'm hopeful that like we'll be able to find a spot that's not around other people because I'm also like very weird about just being around people in general, but, um, I just hope that it goes well and it's not like overpopulated
Starting point is 00:45:07 and crowded because I would hate to be that person that's like, okay, well we have to stay in the condo the whole time because there's more people than what I expected. Right. Right. I don't want that. I'm like, oh my God. Oh, P.S. Let me tell you about what happened yesterday. So I was at Jackson's baseball game and of course my phone was about to die, which is always, um, and I'm taking videos of him and on my like little doorbell camera, I see UPS there and I'm like, okay, I'll just like tell them to leave whatever package, you know, cause you can talk to them. And so they were trying to deliver wine and wouldn't leave it because I guess they have to like
Starting point is 00:46:05 check an ID or something. But I literally was telling the UPS girl from Jackson's baseball game to like just leave the wine there. And she was like, ma'am, I can't like, I have to see somebody who's like 21 to be able to leave this here. But I'm just like, what is life these days? Like when we were growing up, um, I'm pretty sure you couldn't just go like online and order wine to your house via delivery service and then talk to them through a doorbell camera from your child's baseball game. Like that's not a thing. Um, I mean, also we didn't really have the internet on the computer like we do. We had the internet, but not like we do now where it was like everything was bought on the internet. I used to sit
Starting point is 00:46:51 at the bars with my mom, like what? Yes, like my mom would bring me to the bar. Yes. And I would sit there for hours and hours and I would always eat Oots cheese curls. And I just sat there for hours. Like it was just never like nobody ever called the cops. Nobody ever did anything. And now they're like, we're like, you're delivering it. Obviously the per whoever owns the home is probably buying the wine. Like what do you think? Like that my 11 year old has the capability to run a household and order order the wine. Um, in Delaware, we couldn't, um, for some reason, the wine that we tried to recently try, um, didn't, it wasn't able to ship to Delaware. Well, it ships here and it's also weird too,
Starting point is 00:47:41 because I feel like when, even when I came to Philly, you can literally go to pretty much any restaurant like the Mexican restaurant, they will deliver you frozen alcoholic beverages because of coronavirus, like on your doorstep, or you can pick them up and pouches, like a Capri son at the restaurant and get it. But I'm just like, what is life? Like I was sitting there on the bleachers, watching my kids baseball game, talking to the UPS about wine delivery. I love it on my doorstep. And I'm like, what, what is going on? Like what is life? But speaking of baseball, you and I were texting the other day and I was like, we've got to talk about this because, um, little league is literally so political. And
Starting point is 00:48:29 um, the kind of stuff that goes on and the things that I hear about is just insane. And like, I don't know if it's just because it's the only organized thing that we're really involved in that maybe that's why I think some of the stuff is insane, or if it's just the fact that people are just crazy little leaguers, like, I don't know. Um, I definitely think it's all sports. It's all, I've seen it firsthand in baseball too, just because we were briefly in baseball, but I have a lot of friends whose kids are in baseball. So I definitely know it's a thing in baseball, especially little league. Um, and just like traveling teams, all of it, but it is all around like the drama that hobby
Starting point is 00:49:13 and I deal with for, uh, Lincoln's football is just, I don't know it's football. Like one, it's football and two, they're children. So the fact that the like coaches and like the team, uh, the league, like the people who own the league or whatever run the league are so political about it. It's like, let the kids be kids. Let's teach them how to play. Like I don't remember that huge thing that happened when we were in Philly and I was like on the phone and the league wife called me or whatever, because I just like, it's so crazy. It's so, I mean, it's so insane. And like, I mean, I also understand will coaches. So I've seen things firsthand from like the other side. So I understand like the process
Starting point is 00:50:01 and why things are done the way they, they're done in somebody who, um, doesn't have that other side perspective, maybe wouldn't understand it to the level that I see it. But the whole drafting process, um, the way that the umpires like get into the games and sometimes seem very bias. Um, these are little kids that are like eight years old. I'm just so confused that the level of family drama that is brought to the ballfields is insane. And I know that's not just baseball. That could be for anything basketball, football, whatever. Um, co-parenting situations are very interesting. Um, some people can effectively do it. And then some people can't seem to effectively do it. Um, a stranger from grandparents sometimes coming
Starting point is 00:51:01 to games and don't have relationships with like the parents. You see basically everything and it's so crazy. And maybe it's just because we'll so involved with the kids. And then I have had such heavy involvement with the kids that maybe I just notice things more or is, is it like really just everywhere? It's not just here. Like you feel like it's every, it's definitely everywhere. I know on the football field last season and I know I probably talked about it on this podcast, but there was baby daddy drama and baby mama drama and they fought and someone pulled out their gun. I don't, did I tell you this? No, this was at one of Lincoln's games. Um, and it was one of our, I want to say it was
Starting point is 00:51:47 our team either mom or dad. And then there was like a girlfriend there and a dad had to be asked to leave and then he left, but then he came back and then a lot of our coaches also do security for other things or they have their, um, concealed, they're able to carry. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, somebody pulled, I don't know who it was. I don't know if it was the dad or someone else, but there was a gun pulled. It was absolute drama and it's just like these are children. You're at a children's game, like whatever drama you have going on because you didn't expect to see so and so's girlfriend or so and so's boyfriend. It's like you guys, you can't, they literally have the players line up on the other side
Starting point is 00:52:29 of the field and stop playing within in lining up. They had to watch there. They stood there and they watched it. So I've also witnessed not as extreme, but definitely something very similar to that. And I just can't get past the fact of why people can't be adults. Like I understand things happen in life, but you're there for the kids. And I just don't understand like the altercations, the drama, the whatever. But I mean, it's literally all the way down to people not wanting to volunteer, people not wanting to bring snacks, people not bringing their kids on time, um, whatever it may be. And I understand fully that not everybody
Starting point is 00:53:21 is in same life situations. So, you know, there have been instances where it's like you have a child on the team that has a single mom or a single dad and they're just literally trying to do the best that they can. And those situations you totally understand because it's like, okay, wow, they're juggling 19 hats and they're still making it work for their kids. So those situations you understand. But then there's some people that I'm like, I literally know like you stay at home and, um, this is nothing but drama and you can't seem to get it together. Like I just don't understand why people, it's almost like sometimes people use it to create friend groups and it's like social hour for parents. Yeah. Do you
Starting point is 00:54:04 feel like that? Yeah. Yeah. Um, I was mad. I was just mad because, um, last season for Lincoln's football, it was like, um, you know, all the parents get assigned a week to bring snack and drinks or some teams did just assign one person to do it. I don't know. But, um, like Javi was like, oh no, like I'm, I'm assistant coaching or I'm coaching. So Kale got my week and it was like, no, like that's not how this goes. That's not how this works. You know, and then you were going to bring bananas. Like I can't like a bunch of bananas. I mean, I said a bushel. I'm doing my best out here. Okay. A bushel of banana. A bushel. Oh my God. And then I feel like I have joined the train that you're on because I know Lincoln
Starting point is 00:54:55 is so heavily involved in football and it's like, I always feel like you're doing stuff for Lincoln for football. And I know it's been hard for you to juggle with your other kids too. Obviously I'm not in that situation, but Jackson's playing baseball all summer. Seven weekends out of the summer, which is basically the whole summer. He'll be in tournaments. Yeah. It's hard because like right now Lincoln's got games on Fridays and Sundays and the Fridays ones fall around the time that Creed is supposed to like get a, get a bath and go to bed for his like sleep routine. Um, and then like obviously can't expect, you know, my friend Natalie to help every single Friday until nine o'clock at night when she's got a life
Starting point is 00:55:39 too. So it's, it's going to be a little bit challenging for me, um, this week. Um, but we'll figure it out. I also just feel bad too because it's like Lux is going to start soccer April 10th. I think he starts. So that's like in two weeks. Um, he's going to start soccer. So he's got Lincoln football Friday and Sunday Lux soccer on Saturdays. Creed's going to be somewhere in the mix and Isaac just isn't into stuff like that. And we're still trying to figure out what he can do with COVID. It's so hard. It's, it's so hard, but I will say just from my experience with sports, um, they're trying their hardest, you know, to keep the kids safe, you know, practicing social
Starting point is 00:56:24 distancing as much as possible. Um, I know that, um, Jackson's baseball team, they have like the, what do they call them? Like the Gators or whatever that they pull over their nose. Um, that just goes around their neck. So instead of like a mask, it just, it's like around their neck and they just pull it up. So they've been doing stuff like that, but it, it would be hard for a child like Isaac who's not involved in an organized sport, but maybe you would want to do music or something like that. That's more individual based to find something during a pandemic. Like that would be really hard. Um, I will say though that like working with wall blush has been kind of cool because I've
Starting point is 00:57:02 always wanted to, I, I feel like I'm pretty creative. I don't know that I don't necessarily draw, um, but Isaac does like to draw on color and stuff. So I think, um, I'm really hoping that we can work out something where Isaac does his own collection of like kids wallpaper with them. So, um, yeah. So I'm going to see, you know, kind of like what that, what that would look like and if, if that would be an option, um, because he does, he draws so much. He's been writing a lot. He's been writing like little short stories and stuff, which is super cute. So I think, um, I love that. Yeah. So I'm hoping that we can figure something out. He's such a little intellect. I love him so much. Um, wait, a little road scholar.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I can't, um, wait. So you have to tell me, have you started, uh, writing on your Peloton? Uh, I have not. Like I got it, but no, I got it. And I have not, I did order a gel seat pad, um, because everyone was saying how horrible like the actual seat was. Um, but I, I need to start. So I ordered a bike. It's called mixed fitness. It's basically the same thing as a Peloton, just like a different version of it. And I've had such an issue with the delivery on it was supposed to deliver on Monday. And then the driver said they were outside my house. Really weren't. I'm like, why would people lie about being outside of your house when
Starting point is 00:58:25 like everyone has cameras at this point? Like why would you lie? But anyway, um, didn't end up showing up. So I'm excited for it to get here, but I want to know how many people who are listening have a Peloton or a mixed fitness or what you have, because I think it would be so much fun to get our listeners like from coffee combos, from baby mamas, whatever, to our listeners on rides with us, because you can schedule rides and it would be so much fun to be able to do it. So anybody who's listening that has it, if you'll just maybe I'll put it, um, on the post this week on coffee combos, Instagram page and just let us know like what bike you have. And if you would be interested in doing a group, I think
Starting point is 00:59:12 it's called a group ride. I think it would be a lot of fun. Can we like see each other go because I don't want people to see me. No, you're not going to see each other. It's just like you're riding together. Like it's showing your names and stuff like that. I'm not exactly sure all the details on how it works, but I know that you can schedule a ride and it can be a group ride and all those things. So I just think it would be so much fun to do it. Okay. I'm definitely down. But can if we don't have the same bike or like would you only be able to ride with people who have your bike and I can only ride with people who have my bike? I'm not sure. I'm going to look into that. But if that's the
Starting point is 00:59:45 case, then I might just get a peloton. Okay. So let me know. Keep me posted because I don't know anything about any of that. I am going to keep you posted. I want to, I really, really want to keep you posted on this like reunion situation because it would be cool. I didn't even, we're going to get together in June when we go to California, but I would love to get together in May. Yeah, that would be so much fun. We always just like, I feel like when we get together, it's always a good time. It's always a good time. But I always feel like when I do get together with Kale, cause I don't get to see her. I feel like we would get more probably accomplished if I saw you more and like we lived close because
Starting point is 01:00:28 we could hang out like on other times, but it always just seems like, okay, well we work, but then when we get finished working, we could probably do more work, but then we just order like cheesecake factory and then talk about murder tops. I mean, I won't be ordering cheesecake factory anytime soon because of my medicine and me trying to like take care of my body or whatever, which I can give you guys a really quick update on that before we go. I did start my metformin. I followed all the PCO PCOS accounts that I can. I am very much taking care of what I put into my body. And when I, when I do eat something, cause I do still have cravings really bad. I shit my brains out. So that's nice. Um,
Starting point is 01:01:14 and that's kind of where we're at. That's the worst. I do hope that it wasn't great. It's not great, but I do hope that that subsides subsides and you're able to stay on the medication and move forward. Um, but I did see a bunch of messages coming through of people saying that they had that same side effect from it. And it was because they were allergic to the medication. So, Oh, I think it's just, um, from everything that I've read is just that GI issues are a side effect of metformin. Um, and like I said, I don't want to be on this forever. It's kind
Starting point is 01:01:49 of just like a starting point for me to like kind of keep, hold myself accountable to taking care of my body and what I put into my body, knowing that I will get, I will ship, essentially shit my pants if I eat something I'm not supposed to eat. So it kind of just keeps me making those choices right now until I feel like I'm strong enough to do it on my own. And once I am done with this, um, like the, the quantity that I have, um, I'll hopefully be done and be able to kind of do it on my own. And, um, there's just so much information out there and how PCOS affects people differently. Um, you know, some people struggle with like gluten and dairy and some people do really well on keto and some people, you know what
Starting point is 01:02:30 I mean? So it just really depends on the person. So I'm going to keep up with my appointments and just do what I got to do. But, um, totally hope I don't, I hope the pooping stuff subsides, but I don't, I have not heard anything, anything good about that. Actually, a mom at the ball field yesterday, I was getting out rushing into Jackson's game and she stopped me and she was like, I listened to the podcast and I need to make a doctor's appointment because I have some of those same symptoms and, um, I have had it since my third child and didn't know what was going on. And so I definitely need to be checked out. And I just, I love this little community so much because I feel like, um, even though we might
Starting point is 01:03:13 not have the right answers to everything all the time, it's a community to be able to have these conversations to feel like it's a safe place, you know, I feel like yes, yes, created like a safe haven for not only us, but like other people too. So it just feels, it feels good to like have something like this. I agree. I love it. Well, I am going to rush off to the dentist pray that I have no cavities. Um, if you guys have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast on Instagram, make sure you follow us over there. And if you have not subscribed to us, you can do that by searching the purple podcast app on your iPhone, type in coffee combos, click subscribe, click the fifth star, leave us a written review. We're
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