Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 172: Catching Up, Letting Go, and What Could Have Been

Episode Date: July 29, 2021

On this week's episode Lindsie and Kail catch up for the first time after Kail's vacation. Kail gives Lindsie the rundown on her last week of vacation, and Lindsie updates Kail on the final stages of her house closing. Plus find out how Lindise found out how much ranch dressing is TOO MUCH on a salad. And as Lindsie has been packing up for the move she has had to decide on what to take and what to get rid of. She has found that making that call can be more difficult for certain things, but it can be liberating. Plus Kail and Lindsie talk about how things in their life might have been different if they had made different choices or made them at different times. This episode was sponsored by: ZocDoc, GoHenry, & Title Nine Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License. 

I'm recording and I accidentally actually called your old phone and I was like wait a minute why do I still have that and also I don't know why I still have it and it's a different picture for like the like the contact photo and I was like this isn't this isn't right so I gotta call again oh my gosh I hope that whoever has it is not bothered by people sorry for my shenanigans for my shenanigans like whoever gets our old phone numbers it just like makes me laugh because I'm like they will immediately change you after like three days literally because people still call me I kept it because I was like I need this for work in case I have to call someone that I don't want to have my number um but if I was to like recycle it and give it up like people still

called me from when Janelle put it on the internet so good luck to whoever gets it next oh my god why do you sound like raspy raspy McGee like what I don't know I really I literally don't know I also have a headache I don't have like I don't feel any other like symptoms but like a headache and a raspy voice so I don't know if I just like lost my voice or if there's something going on that you know needs further investigation what have you been doing for two weeks I feel like I've not talked to you at all I know well I mean we've talked because we podcast but other than yeah I mean we really haven't haven't been talking um that much because obviously anyone who has kids I feel like whenever you go on vacations with your kids you just try to disconnect as much as possible

from your phones and not like be wrapped up and all of that and it's hard to wrangle like taking care of everything that's on your phone plus your kids yeah it would I actually have 200 unread emails and um even when we were there like I would take pictures and stories and stuff and I wouldn't even post them until we got back like in the room that night I love that didn't we talk about that before probably or maybe I can't remember who I was talking about this with you probably talk yeah I'm pretty sure like I didn't post them right away you know what I mean yeah so I actually have that rule whenever I go on vacation that I can have I have my phone and I try to be like super mindful that we're on vacation whatever and I only have it so that I

can take photos or take videos and then I don't worry about posting anything until like later that night or sometimes I don't even post anything until we get back from the trip yeah well I actually think that's like nice too for privacy reasons um there was one thing that I wanted to tell you about I don't know if I did tell you already last time no I couldn't have because we weren't at the resorts um so Courtney from Sparkle was in Dominican Republic and so was Lindsay Nicholson and I love both of them and we were all like pretty within 20 minutes of each other so Lindsay and I got together and I brought her on to my resort to like go on an excursion because we had gotten a boat for a day and the resort is like none of them not just mine but like Lindsay's and Courtney's

because Courtney had invited me and the kids to go there for their water park and then she like texted me and she was like hey like I'm really sorry to tell you this but they're not letting anyone on the resort like nobody can come in and I was like actually I completely understand because the my hotel security was like you can't have Lindsay here like you guys can't like you can't bring outside people and like totally understand but like also we were just going on an excursion so we were literally like I picked her up because she was two hotels down and then I brought her to the lobby so we could get in the car like I didn't even bring her to my room or anything like literally just the lobby and they like literally waited with me until we got in the van like you cannot

bring any outside people in to the to the resorts wow see yeah actually this happened to me but she was able to get in one of my friends when I went to Cancun they do day passes for people to be able to get in but you can't come on property unless you have a day pass if you're not staying there okay that makes sense that was the first resort that we went to after the Airbnb we actually stayed there because we got the day pass and we're like okay this is better than like the Airbnb or whatever because obviously as you guys know there was roaches in the Airbnb among other things but I guess I was surprised at the level of security and then I asked Leah wanted to bring her friend on and I asked the security guard I was like hey like what is can I ask why

and he basically was like nine times out of ten people are trying to bring people on the resorts that they just met and because it's like a resort they have to protect their you know their property their establishment and they don't want any they have to do anything they can to like make sure nothing happens and he was like nine times out of ten you don't know the person that you're like you're basically a one night stand but obviously that wasn't the case for us but he was like that's why because you know you just don't know who you're bringing in so did Leah not bring any of her kids it was just like a girls thing that y'all did yeah so she was she actually literally left her family vacation like when it was over and came with us and I almost wish that I would have done

it that way like I wish I would have went somewhere with my kids and then went to like an all girls thing because Lindsay also didn't bring her kids and you felt left out I did and I said that to Kristen I was like I just I did feel left out mainly because like you know kids are hard and honestly it wasn't so much Isaac Lincoln and Lux but Creed's a baby so he requires more and I just felt bad because like Natalie obviously helps me but like I wanted her to be able to do stuff too and if she did stuff then we couldn't do it together you know yeah so it was it was hard but the last the last leg of our trip was so much fun and I definitely want I it was off to such a rough start but I definitely want to go back without kids like I'll relic this trip again

and by myself by myself I actually um I got a membership so whenever we're ready to go somewhere they have um there are like sister resorts and stuff in like Mexico and Jamaica so let me know wait you got you don't tell Kristen kill first of all um hi Kristen um how are you secondly did you buy into timeshare no it's not timeshare it's something different wait I actually was overhearing a conversation about someone talking about how I was at the hair salon the other day and these girls were talking about how their parents used to make them go to timeshares when they were little kids in Orlando and so that they could get free Disney tickets and they would go and sit through like these whole like like presentations yeah and then they would give them free Disney

tickets at the end and be like yeah we're not interested in buying the timeshare but like thanks for the Disney tickets and I just want to know like was that something that everybody's parents did because these girls acted like this was a thing that everybody should know about um actually I remember when I first like first ever went to Mexico my friends parents were like because we were older so like we were able to like I was in high school so we were able to like go around the resort or whatever and they were like we're going to go to this timeshare presentation and I was just like I didn't I still don't know I still do not understand what the fucking timeshare is either I don't understand how they work basically you share a block of time

and you can select weeks off of everybody else who also owns or like are part of the timeshare if that does that make sense I guess but like I wouldn't just buy your own rental property and just Airbnb it out yourself I don't know I don't get it but anyway what were you saying I don't remember you buy this membership that oh yeah I got this membership and it no Christy can't know she'll figure it out later she's gonna kill me it's fine um and basically like if you the reason why I got it because at first I was like this is I literally told them to their face I was like you're not selling me like tell me where the perks are and he basically was like you would get like super super discounted rates and then like say you and you and Jackson wanted

to go somewhere um you can use my account to get all the benefits and then I get points from that so like it's kind of official if like my you would get like literally half off of a resort and then I would get points for you guys going so then I was like okay like if yeah that makes sense has been wanted to go somewhere you know what I mean because yeah the discounts and they're way bigger discounts than like Expedia or something like that wow kill you're just really doing big things yeah I'm trying I'm you know I'm gonna get in trouble but it's fine so anyway well um right now I am currently podcasting from the basement and when I tell you it looks like a hurricane came through here um it looks like a combination of a hurricane and a tornado um but okay so that's

always fun um and then yeah I have been so busy um obviously we've talked a lot about the house stuff and I was supposed to close on Tuesday and now that's on Friday because I guess somehow my builder forgot that they needed to put an outlet in my island and in order to get the certificate of occupancy for me to be able to close um it had to be installed and so they had to rip up some of the floor um because they didn't do it and now they're putting all that tell me tell me is that something that you had to notice for them to fix it or like somebody comes in and says oh because I wouldn't know that so I'm literally writing that down there is certain things that I definitely did notice when I went through the walkthrough but then there are certain things

that the county when they come in to issue the certificate of occupancy um and every county is different they have to pass a certain like level of stuff before they issue the certificate of occupancy like most places for example you have to have minimum of sub flooring before you can close on a house like it might not have to have hardwoods but you have to have a minimum of sub flooring and that is just for every county is different and probably every state is different um so yeah they went in and I'm thinking oh everything's like running smooth it's running on time and then I get the text message a couple of days ago saying that I was actually going to be closing on Friday instead of Tuesday so that's always like disappointing but also it could be

worse so I'm glad they found it yeah exactly you know you would have been pissed had you signed everything and then you were like wait a minute I don't have an outlet in my island well exactly and then they also had to rip up floors to be able to run the electrical so that was a whole other thing so there's floors that are still not replaced over there I went over there today and um yeah I don't I don't know it's just like so crazy and then I was talking to one of my other girlfriends the other day because you just like haven't been around um and we were talking about the accumulation of stuff which we've talked about on here before like where do you get all of this stuff yeah because I'm basically buying everything new and starting from scratch for the most part

I mean they're like I said there's some things that I'm taking but just in general I'm restarting and so you just don't realize like how much stuff that you have to buy or how many things that you don't think that you bought if that makes sense like you just thought you just like had it yeah I um when I think about my current house I'm like okay there's not going to be that much stuff like it's not a big deal but I know once I like get down to the nitty gritty of it it's going to be pretty bad yeah fine things like shoved in places that you forgot about yeah and it's stressing me out so bad um I went to Costco yesterday actually and had a whole grocery cart of stuff just like overflowing and I didn't even scratch the surface of like stuff that I

needed you know this was just basic like general essentials like detergent and trash bags and pillows and a couple towel sets from there and you know just like odd and in things that just add up that you somehow just have but like you don't know where you've got it does that make sense yes it does where did all of this stuff come from but no it's it's so stressful and I know that the nice thing is is that um will is going to be in this house until it sells so I do have some time to like go together yes so that part is nice because it's not like I have to be out of somewhere to be in somewhere else and I say that's such a blessing because it's just really hard to to do that and especially when you don't really even know what you need like between work and taking

care of Jackson and trying to do like all of this stuff and try to be mentally sane um it's just a lot and I haven't been able to wrap my head around like to sit down to make out a list of things that I would actually need yeah no I get that and I was gonna ask you like when you move you just don't take food with you right or do you take like the dry stuff or do you just start over oh gosh um well because I honestly think I'm gonna try to like eat everything that we have but unless obviously unless it's expired um before we move I don't want to take any food or anything well I only have like four days until then so that plan's kind of out the window um but will will also be there you're saying so yeah so I'm like stuff out and like try to eat it and stuff yeah I'm not gonna

be worried about you know garbanzo beans or like you know I mean I would be worried about can't you make like Mexican bowls with those yeah like I'm not worried about that stuff I'm just like okay I'll just get what I need whenever I get over there and I don't know do other people like have this mindset or is it just me that I keep staple items in my pantry that are like consistent staple meals so like yes always I always will stock like my house will never not have taco stuff because it's so simple yes like staple like or spaghetti like my spaghetti stuff like I always two staples that we both have them yes yes are you guys we're gonna take a quick break to talk about one of our partners zock doc and I have a quick question for you have you ever been in need of a doctor and

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functional in my house and be able to kind of have it all together circumstances just look very different now and doing things on your own just looks totally different and so I want to be able to have a system that works and she was telling me basically that when you have this system set up in your pantry and it's all organized that if you do have staple stuff when you take it out or you don't have it you're quicker to notice that like it's gone and so I was like yes like I need this so bad but I will always have like cans of stuff for spaghetti I always have stuff for tacos because like you said it is the easiest like throw together meal if you need something like fast and plus everybody likes it yeah like it's always you

and you get filled up on it so you can always and rice too like all those like staple things and I always have Tyson chicken nuggets the dino one so we know you love the dino nuggets I do it's mainly for me it's not even for the kids but going going back to your organizing point you'll be surprised how well Jackson will be able to keep up with it too I had all my closets done and the pantry and it was honestly a game changer like I to this day when I moved back into my old house like I have been like I cannot wait to get back I can't wait to get into the new house because I'll have my system again yes and it's just such a good feeling because it's easier to keep up with like don't even I don't even like when people touch my pantry when it's like all done and organized

because I'm like you guys don't know like just let me do yes just like get out of it yeah just get out oh let me tell you um so Jackson has been in this phase of playing restaurant and he told me that he had made will a salad the other day and he put fruit on it and I said well buddy there's a lot of people that don't like fruit on their salad but then there are people who do like fruit on their salad and maybe your dad's one of those people but I am not one of those people that like fruit because I knew that it was trending in the direction of like he was laying out the groundwork that he was going to make me this salad okay and I knew I wouldn't be able to stomach it with the fruit on it like I it's so weird to me to have like lettuce and then like ranch or like

a balsamic or something and then pieces of fruit like that's just I don't know I can't get behind it um but I know there's a lot of people that are listening they're probably like I love fruit on my salad so um he said well my dad really he really liked it and he ate every bite of it and I said oh he did and he said yeah so I was so what I was thinking was I would make it for you too and I said oh okay I said I would love a you know I'm a real plain person and I would love a plain salad that sounds so good and so he goes into the um crisper drawer and gets out the lettuce and I always buy the romaine hearts like the ones have you seen them they come in like a pack of three and they're like no man I don't ever I don't ever have salad or buy salad or even looking

salad so no I have not I don't even know what romaine is like the dark green right no it's like light green and it um I guess maybe sometimes it's dark I don't know but for the majority it's it's pretty light and it comes in like they call them romaine hearts and they're like long and they normally sell them in packs of threes and so like three stalks and so he took that lettuce out and he started ripping it with his hands like no no rinsing the lettuce nothing he was just ripping it with his hands and putting it in a bowl did he see someone do this I have no idea I'm like where and and you know now because again things look so different I'm like certain things that he does I wouldn't know because I'm not there you know so I'm like well maybe he saw somebody

learn you know teaching him this so then he gets out the ranch dressing and he goes this is my favorite part and he said I love making salads and kill I kid you not he used like half of the bottle the bottle of ranch on there like there you couldn't see the lettuce oh no so then he proceeds and this is a labor of love he then proceeds to go and get tongs out and now he's gonna toss it in the drenching ranch I thought you said tums not tongs no tongs and he goes well it's done and I sat down to eat it and he said mom are you not enjoying your salad I said oh no I am I said it's just taking me a couple of minutes to digest the ranch and he was like see I went a little bit more ranch on yours because you didn't have the fruit so I thought I would put some more ranch

and I was like oh okay well next time you need more ranch next time you make me a salad please don't put every ounce of pre-made ranch from Hidden Valley on my lettuce pieces please right thank you oh he tried but he tried so hard and it was so cute and then he told me that he was gonna make me nachos and he's really into like I don't know it's so cute when kids really like get into themselves and like start exploring and they're they get interested in like different things yeah it's not playing with toys you know it's like oh well you know mom I want to help you put in the laundry or I want to help you you know vacuum yeah I mean we haven't we haven't gotten that far but I I hope at some point we do right right right he want him to be able to vacuum his own

room yes yes he is so excited because his room has carpet at our new house and he's like I just love this I could lay on here and just rub my feet across and it feels so good oh bless his heart I'm like man I'm just the worst I've been making you walk on hardwood your life is horrible honestly these kids don't even know they're like they have no clue so you recently know that I have signed up for go Henry Isaac and Lincoln were so excited especially because they were able to I was able to personalize their cards for them so Lincoln got like a little football design and Isaac got a shark design and you're able to create budgets and and savings goals and they have a limit for weekly allowances or if they want to donate and I

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exhausted when I got back like I just didn't think about that was like oh it'll be great like we'll go on vacation for two weeks and then we'll come home and we'll have the birthday party like I didn't give myself any downtime and um I'm filming tomorrow and we're gonna go write like affirmations in the framing yes of the house and I'm super excited because I mean I saw it on on tiktok or something and I thought it was so so cute um and they have their they put the stairs in so we can go upstairs and let them pick their room and then write the affirmations on the framing of their own room that they pick um so I'm super excited about that and I just did not prepare myself for I'm so drained I'm so drained today you guys have no idea I it was a nightmare trying

to get home and I'm just trying to figure out I hope I'm not coming down with something because my head is literally throbbing that is the worst feeling ever I also just didn't have coffee today so I don't know I actually haven't had coffee for three weeks what yeah so I don't know if it's like caffeine I don't know if it's like just from being in the airplane because I feel like airplanes no matter how clean they are like they're still dirty wait so explain like you had but I was negative for COVID no I haven't they didn't have any like they had coffee but it was so bad like they didn't have Dunkin they didn't have Starbucks they didn't have McDonald's obviously you couldn't stomach it no I couldn't stomach the hotel actually didn't try the coffee at the Nickelodeon

resort but the other resort that we were at I did not get coffee okay so a lot of people who do get coffee from if they don't make it at home a lot of people talk about how good McDonald's coffee is like the McAf or whatever I'm I think I've had it maybe one time but I don't remember it being memorable like it wasn't good no but a lot of people say that so I just wonder if there's an equal amount of people who like Starbucks Dunkin and McDonald's I mean at this point I I mean well I guess up until the point I was in Dominican Republic I thought I would drink any coffee because I love Wawa coffee Dunkin Starbucks and I love my coffee from from home so I thought oh I can just drink any coffee doesn't matter but it it definitely does

speaking of I feel like a lot of people who follow me are a big Dunkin following okay okay I could see that so I feel like that's just like true to who I am as a person in the last two times that I had to go to Starbucks I had to go when I was in the Dallas airport and then I had to go for something else like there was either like not a Dunkin around or something and they did me real dirty the last two times and really bad really bad and I just don't understand like why do I feel like Dunkin is so consistent but Starbucks is never consistent I don't feel like my we've had this conversation I don't feel like either of them is consistent and that's why I'm like I'll just make my shit at home because I never find I never have two Dunkin days in a row

that's good I never have two Starbucks days in a row that's good I never have if I go to Wawa and physically make it myself it's good if I make it at home myself it's good so moral the story is just do it your fucking self oh man I can't wait so back to your vacation really quick did Creed's eye heal all up it did honestly Lindsay I am so thankful I'm just like pleasantly surprised that how well it healed up he healed so nicely like he does have like a little scar but I think it healed up the best that it could I'll post a picture too so you guys can see it but it was a little scary because it was in another country and you know it was a lot and they their Spanish is a lot different than Javi Spanish I don't know if I said that the last time he podcasted but Javi

Spanish is Javi's first language so he's more than fluent you know what I mean but in the Dominican Republic there they speak so much faster than Javi and I thought Javi Spanish was fast and so he had a hard time like even understanding and then we were just nervous and then they wanted to send us to another hospital to go get x-rays because he's so little I mean I didn't I was literally holding him when he when his face like touched the table so like it was not like crazy but it it's crazy that that he must have just hit his eye like just right for it to split open like that but um yeah it healed up so nicely and I'll post a picture um and Creed was a champ through all of it I am so glad that they had liquid Band-Aid because I was like what is she

yes literally no I was panic because but they but Natalie was telling me that they probably wouldn't have stitched it with actual stitches in the US either because he's so little oh so they wouldn't have like been able to like numb him and then like hold him down so they probably would have glued it in the ER anyway oh my gosh that was so scary it was so scary and it's crazy too because they prescribed him a moxacillin so it wouldn't get like infected um and you just go and you can get it over the counter oh really yeah and my friend Adrian got um moxacillin for something and he just went and he just got three pills and it was like three dollars oh wow yeah he didn't even have like a prescription or anything you can literally buy like I won't say what else you can

buy over the counter because I'm not encouraging anyone to go buy it but um yeah you can go buy like drugs over the counter not you get what I'm saying yes um yeah wait so can you tell me back I mean I guess what would it have been kill 2017 when lux was little that he had you had such a hard time with um the products that you put on him or feeding him or feeling like yeah whatever with his skin yeah I saw a picture of creed does he have that too yeah creed has it way worse so creed has and I'm so glad that you brought that up because I did want to address it I've been really really weird about certain pictures that I post where you people can be like oh is that a shadow or like what is that so thank you for bringing that up um creed is allergic to something or

some things and we have not figured out what it is exactly but basically I took him to the allergist before we left for our trip and he said that the eczema that he has is an underlying sign that he is allergic to other things and basically it's a double-edged sword because he has the eczema and then obviously that makes him like more prone to worse reactions like the skin doesn't know how to handle the allergens and it makes it worse because he has eczema so it's like hives on top of his eczema so on august 4th we'll go get the test where they do like the needles down the spine to like see the reactions and he the the allergist suggested only doing about 10 for the first one and he's going to test like the major ones like seafood dairy wheat um seafood dairy wheat peanuts

he peanuts um and a couple other things and eggs um and we're going to try to like narrow it down like that but he's definitely allergic to something and we don't we just haven't figured it out it's so crazy because I remember that you went through that same thing with luxe and but nobody told me that that that those reactions were like allergic so I thought it was what I was putting on his body but lo and behold it very well could have been something that he was eating but I never put like those I didn't know that people will be like oh it's just eczema no eczema is a reaction to something sometimes and neither of the none of the other boys have it like Isaac and Lincoln don't have it never no that's so wild and um the allergist also told me that um if he does have a

peanut allergy he most likely won't grow out of that but other allergens like eggs and dairy like sometimes they do like people will grow out of that um and he said something don't quote me on this I'll find out on the fourth but something along the lines of like introducing peanut sooner rather than later because it's still possible for him if he doesn't have a peanut allergy to still develop the peanut allergy yes I have heard that actually so I was interested to to hear that and um do you feed him shellfish no I don't eat seafood so my kids I mean I know luxe that came home and literally was like I eat crabs with my dad and I was like cool like that's awesome I don't eat crabs um I don't eat any type of seafood so I I will be curious to see is crabs a shellfish

I'm pretty yeah yeah um yeah no I don't personally feed it so I don't think Jackson ever had a shellfish he was five years old um before he did and Will's whole family are big seafood eaters and I'm not a seafood eater so it wasn't hard for me not to give him shellfish but I know that's a big a big one for I forget what they say like don't feed your kids shellfish until their x amount of age or something oh really yeah oh I don't know why I didn't know that you're like I have four children and I don't know that I'm glad that I'm glad that you said that I don't and um that's so interesting okay so same for like honey you can't give them honey yes honey yeah after one but I think that's more for like the bacteria type of stuff yeah but I thought honey

was like anti it is like they had me put it on my cat after I gave birth I thought you were gonna be like a cat like a kitty cat like but you're talking about like like your cat yeah like my my vagina like how many times did you put it on I every time I went to the bathroom I made sure I had honey down there I put it on my diaper stop like you just like scored it like back and like vertically you know and it works oh my god yeah it's so soothing I've I never I wish that I did that for the rest of my children like I used my little what is it called like a pear bottle or a peery bottle yeah yeah I would like do that and then I would make sure that like my honey was in there and then um like anytime I got out of the shower and got dressed I put my

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like not warm but like not cold either oh i wanted my freezing as cold as can be yes yes and i will i loved like being able to go to the bathroom because i knew that i was going to be able to use that bottle i was like yes this is so good but it's weird too because i have actually been seeing a lot of things because for whatever reason it seems like a lot of people are having babies right now yeah i feel like that too and so a lot of people that i follow are having babies and they were talking about homemade like the things that you put in your panties like after you have a baby and like makes it soothing but my hospital gave me that what is it called it's like the things that you crack like my hospital gave me that you crack them and put it like in your

panty liner and it basically is just like cool down like an ice pack yeah like an ice pack but evidently you can make them like homemade but i didn't know about this or that people did it because i just got it from the hospital and i specifically remember freaking out like am i still gonna be hurting by the time i run out of these and then like what would i do never i've had four kids and i've never heard of anything like that you haven't definitely never gave those to me at the hospital no oh my gosh it was it was the best like i also didn't really have diapers at any of my other births besides creed which pissed me off because i'm like this is so convenient and like nice i know it sounds crazy but like i loved my diaper underwear after birth and i didn't

have those with my other kids or maybe i did and i just was like embarrassed to wear them like i don't know do you know what i did i actually um just threw away my bag from the hospital from almost nine years ago oh yeah like you know this the little like double bag things that they give you to like carry stuff in i had all my stuff down in there and when i opened it up the other day i it was just like sad but also like glad i wasn't in that phase anymore right but it was a couple of maternity shirts um those little covers for breastfeeding yeah and then just like all the random stuff that comes from the hospital like the socks that have like the grippers on the bottom and stuff and i was like all this is this is bittersweet and you know to tell you the truth um going

through my house and getting rid of stuff has been a very bittersweet and healing process for me i yeah i could see why i mean but it's like how do you decide what like you're gonna throw away or like like what made you decide that you're gonna get rid of that um because i was never gonna use it again and i was like you know i have looked at this one time probably like in the last three years so i just need to get rid of it and i'm kind of of this mindset now that um the memories are with me and the photos that i have and not like with the items that are right at the house i guess and so um but that has also weirdly enough i've had to have therapy over that i could understand that though i mean these are sentimental items right like yeah that's your

that's your only baby and so it's hard to you know think that you know maybe you might not have anymore you don't you know what i mean so that's so scary for me to think about like like i mean obviously i could very well have more children yeah of course of course you know whatever and i don't know um you know what my future will bring however um with that being said it is a situation to where i have those thoughts where i'm like okay i might not ever do this again so like i maybe shouldn't get rid of it right but i've gotten so much better um just over the last couple of weeks it's been easier for me to be like you know what i just really don't need that like i looked at it one last time and then got rid of it i think that's fair i think that's like

and like you said you have the photos you have you obviously have jackson so like that's like where all your memories lie you know what i mean exactly and another thing too is um this week i'm going to start taking photos and stuff off of the walls and i just wonder like is that something that i'll put in storage or like what do i do with that stuff i so i try to take family photos every year i took pictures when creed was like four months old it was a nightmare so i'll wait until he's like 18 months but um every time because i get canvases done and it's even weird when i live in the house and i'm not really like moving or anything and i have to take them down i just have like a huge like rubber made tupperware situation down there in the basement and i put

all of the photos in there so canvases but when for example like when you went through divorce with hobby i don't know if you'll feel comfortable talking about this or not but but how did you make the house since you stayed there how did you make it yours and not y'all's i took all whenever he came to get his stuff i had already taken things off the wall and gave them to him and then i put some of the things some of the pictures that we have together i ended up putting in linkedin's uh memory box in the basement because i want linkedin to know that like at one point like hobby and i were happy together we loved each other and like we made him in love you know what i mean like i wanted i want him to know that that's like

i'll always respect hobby for you know being linkedin's dad so i did put them you know gave to him some of them and then put some in i didn't i don't outside of like our wedding table favors i don't think that i got rid of any pictures like i gave them to him or put them in the bin okay um just because i didn't know what the proper thing to do and maybe there's just like not a right answer and yeah i don't i don't think there is i don't think there's a proper answer um i know that i did order some have you ever heard of small woods before yes i used to follow them yes so i have ordered three of like their extra large photo um things like the hanging ones for my new house of pictures of like like ones of jackson ones of and i think two are of me

and jackson and they're so cute they're like beach photos and my house is very um it's going to be very like light and airy and a little bit coastal um and they're so so cute and relatively inexpensive so i was just like excited i've been getting excited to do those little touches you know to like make it mine that'll be so nice and those are really good quality at least from what i saw but back to your point of making linkin and love um you know what that is so true and i say that out of anything like no matter what happens in life that my son was made in love and that that it was genuine and it was pure yep and i will never regret it like no ever and he was you know brought into my life very young i was 23 years old whenever i had him obviously you had

one at 17 right so i mean you know but i think about people that i'm friends with other than you know that if they do have children they're like either just starting at my age or um haven't even started yet and so i have to think about that too and be like you know what um your life's not over like it's just a chapter of your life literally literally it's so crazy to think about like i wonder like how things would be different had i waited to have kids like obviously would want the same exact kids like later on yeah like how would things be different had i waited like would i obviously like i don't know it's it's so crazy to think about that i do have friends that are just now having kids and um yeah it's definitely don't regret them at all but do you ever wonder

where you would be if you hadn't had your kids oh yeah all the time all the time and it's not like uh yeah i don't i don't say that in a negative way i just say like where like what would i be doing i don't know like would i be still a dental assistant would i want to college would i be you know what i mean like there's so many what i have gone down the path of like my mom what would that look like and um but also like i'm so happy to be where i am but i'm also you know i do miss like being able to like get up and go whenever i want you know what i mean like that's something i do miss and i know that i'll i'll get there again obviously when my kids are grown so i have that but um no i i love being a mom it's just it's crazy to think about when you really like sit

there and think about all of it like as a whole you're like wow well because people would be liars if they said oh i don't look back on my life and think of what it would have been like if certain things didn't happen you know and it's right always that what if game um and i don't get caught up in that i just sometimes think like when i get in this type of mode i'm like what would my life have been like you know if um will and i would have not gotten engaged and then not gotten married what would he have been doing because i just um have been going down memory lane over the past couple of weeks and i'm like thinking about stuff that he had told me years and years ago like before we had jackson and just like how he would have loved to be a coach and um you know

like as as a career like a high school baseball coach or whatever and i'm just like what would his life have been like and part of me feels a sense of guilt because even though i know it's not all me um i just feel responsible in some way of like okay wow like this is done and what if he would have wanted like all of those other things in his life right like you almost feel like did you hold him back i've been there yeah yeah 100% like did i hold you back did i cause this did i that's and i think that that's i don't want to say normal but i do think that's a common thought because i even think like that now yeah i just wonder like if it wouldn't have been for me where would his life be today i i mean i think that you gave him the greatest gift

that you could have ever given him so um both in being with you and with jackson so i don't know i mean i don't know will as well as you do so i don't i don't look at it the same way but would he be a high school baseball coach and like living a completely different life and then do you ever feel a sense of guilt of like bringing people along the shit show that has been caused from reality tv yes yes yes yes yes yes like even now like dating someone it's like why are you even wanting this lifestyle with me when you see how big of a chaos and like shit show it is like i don't want to be responsible like this is me genuinely telling you like i do not want to be responsible for holding you back i want you know i want you to live the life that you want to live

live your life to the fullest like don't do this with me you know what i mean like warning don't do this with me and i feel that same way too and i also feel that it's kind of selfish um i'm very self-aware and i know that you are also a very self-aware person contrary to a lot of people's belief um that we are very aware of and you more so because you're still on teen mom um that the life is chaotic and it's not going to stop and it's almost like you feel selfish for bringing somebody into that um when they didn't ask for that type of chaos does that make sense and like 100 percent the sharing and the i think about it all the time about social media like the other day i did a ask questions and when i tell you i had thousands and thousands and thousands

of people asking me to share like what's going on in my life and there is a sense of responsibility that i feel to do that and to be honest and then there's also a big part of me that has a huge issue with the fact that there's other people that are involved that didn't choose this is their life they were just kind of brought into it and it wasn't by choice right to that point i think i have a lot of guilt for for that as far as like the romantic partner um and then i also have like for i'm trying to think like like honestly if i'm being completely transparent like chris didn't ask for this right like he didn't ask to be on teen mom he didn't i mean now he's been on the last two episodes of teen mom that's his own fault because he knew we were filming

he knew they would show his face like you know what i mean but in the beginning like up until this point he did not sign up for this so i did my best at the time to protect him from that and like warned him like this is going to get crazy and like the trolls are going to go after you and stuff like that and it's going to be chaotic and it's you know i didn't want him to be subjected to that like i felt like i i felt guilty but then there are people in my life and i'm not going to name names that sought me out for it and so then i have resentment because i feel like you knew what you were getting yourself into you know and so i have both ends of it but yes to your point like 100 i have people that i'm like you this is not your fault because i just think

like when reality tv came about for us back in 2013 when we filmed the pilot in 2012 um but when it actually aired was in 13 and that was a decision that i made with my family um and will was kind of an afterthought in that decision and the level of guilt that i have that i carry um for that is very heavy i can imagine i can imagine and he didn't ask you didn't you don't realize what what comes with it when you're signing up for it you know when you're like signing the contract and like you don't you don't even know yourself well yeah and i mean you just think and i know we've talked about it before you just think okay well you know something may or may not come of this no one's probably gonna care um it's just something that we're gonna do and we'll like figure it out

along the way literally and then things happen and um i guess in the situation for my family things blew up way bigger than what i ever expected whenever i signed to be a participant and um i truly signed to be a participant if i'm if i'm being fully transparent thinking that it wouldn't go past a first season but also thinking that it might not even be picked up for a first season so yeah yeah you know that's how i thought when i signed when i like submitted my stuff i was like this is probably not gonna go anywhere even when they called me and told me i was picked i was like you just don't think it's real like you don't and then even further you just don't even really know once it is real you still don't believe it's real and then all the shit comes with it and you're

like wait a minute yes i didn't know and then do you ever feel like um you're just like people view you kind of like as a spectator sport like people are watching you and you're like the outside looking in on everyone and you're like the one different one yes i feel like that's mean you on different different ends of the spectrum but yes i feel that way like i feel like i'm the odd ball like i'm the one that's all of these things and nobody else is what you know all the things that i am and same for you like it's almost like the black sheep kind of yes and that has been something that i have struggled with for years and years and years that you know when you get around a table and people start talking and it's like you know there's career talks and talking

about corporate america and you know climbing the ladder and these job transfers and moves and and all of these things and they're all relating with each other and i'm just kind of sitting there feeling not that i should feel inadequate because i feel like i've made the best of my yeah like i've made the best of my situations um but also like i have nothing to provide to that conversation but also they don't have anything to provide if i was to be a part of that conversation right right i think um that goes for a lot of well not a lot of situations but similar but different but like for maybe a single mom who's friends with a bunch of married people or stay at home moms who all their friends are you know have corporate jobs and things like that like

even though they're our friends even though we can go to dinner with them you still kind of feel like the odd ball or like inadequate i know i definitely don't feel we've talked about you know not feeling like our jobs or our income is respected um and i think it kind of falls into that category like we just don't have the the converse like any type of anything to add to that conversation and i just feel like i'm i've kind of for years tiptoed around what i do for a living to make other people comfortable and that's been something that's been really hard for me to navigate and truly that i've been processing um since july 4th of last year um there was a you know incident that took place that really was eye-opening for me and i think that was the turning point i

think there's always like a pivotal point that you're kind of like okay um i woke up today and i know that that was for me and um i look back on so many different things and just think about how much my life has changed just since jackson was born and i was thinking to myself like okay two things i know that i've shared that i don't believe that the government should get involved in relationships but the second thing is that if the government is going to get involved in relationships i don't know that you should be allowed to get married like before you're a certain age because you're not like the decision that you would make at 21 22 23 years old is a very different decision-making process at 31 32 or 33 years old i mean even i was married with two kids

at before 21 or at 21 and even my cousins were like i mean they are the voice of reason they're mature they're they're just two cousins that i've always looked up to that were like sisters to me growing up and um they even said to me i i didn't want to tell them that i got married because they even said to me kale like you're you're 20 21 years old like your frontal lobe is not even developed until like 25 like you're gonna make very direct sorry i don't know why i'm stuttering again you're going to make very different decisions after 25 and we just feel like their twins they have this conversation together with me they were like they hanged up on you literally but that's literally my whole life they've always looked out for me like that they're like okay hey do you want

to go gang up on kale today um they said that to me they were very concerned because they they said that i probably should have waited a little bit longer and like i had that conversation with habi today like i think had we waited longer or had been a little bit older we would have had the tools to get through things differently um and just like overall made different choices yes yes i but then you also get in that mindset of okay shoulda coulda woulda right like yeah if i wouldn't have made those decisions then i maybe wouldn't be here or maybe i would be there or maybe i would be doing this you can't what i've learned is that um you have to accept your mistakes failures learning lessons you have to accept them and take them in stride and not dwell and yeah

dwell for a very long time because i'm a big dweller about things and have been for for as long as i can remember like i think i've always been just a big dweller and um in this situation i look at things just very differently like i don't i'm not dwelling on anything i'm just like wow you know this is how i feel and i'm finally comfortable to be able to say you know this is how i feel and and that's okay it's okay to to not be in the same place that i was because that's a big thing that i've struggled with that i need to remain in and also it's a very um like closed-minded mentality of other people who have given me advice and i'm not going to call those people out but um saying basically advocating that i need to be the same

same me that i was at 23 and i'm like i'm not i'm not her like i don't even know who that person is right no i definitely agree with what you're saying and to your point about like taking your your mistakes and stride and stuff like that um i have certain regrets in my life but i definitely feel like i can look at other people's situations now and not be judgmental because of all the shit that i've done and then i've been through and then i've seen and that have been done to me so it's almost like yes i live with regrets but i also live with perspective and and non-judgmental you develop a different level of understanding when you've been through things that are hard exactly exactly and that's why i always say all the time i try not to speak on

situations that i haven't been in or give someone advice about something that i haven't been there i want to be there for that person and be a listening ear or a helping hand but also i don't need to be giving advice because frankly it's probably unsolicited one and two it's advice that i should not be giving but you do have a completely different level of understanding when you've been through something hard and you've also had to navigate very serious feelings through those hard things yes actually the end of my trip i was talking to one of my girlfriends and she's like i have to tell you this i just need to get it off my chest and i said i'm not going to say what the situation was but i literally looked at her and i said i'm the wrong

person to ask for advice on this i said but i'm here for you and i'm going to support you in whatever you want to do with your life whether it's what i would do or not or what i agree with or not i'm here to support you i'm your friend and i care about you and that's it so if you want to vent to me you want to tell me what you're doing you want to tell me you don't want to tell me what you're doing all of it's fine like that's fine because i've done shit i've had shit done to me and i can't who am i like unless you're asking me kale what would you do i i don't have that and i actually felt good about you what would kale do could you imagine it's like um probably don't do what kale would do but also yolo yolo but yeah doesn't it feel good though to be in a place

to where you can say okay i see your situation but i also shouldn't be giving advice on that situation yeah yeah definitely and that level of maturity um speaking of uh kale like what would kale do somebody actually said that instead of kale and the chaos it should be kale and the kids kale and the kids okay and then you can manifest that kale calming collected or kale kale and the calm but you know what i like kale and the kids so i'm going to write that down kale and the kids i think it's so cute and the kids i think you're right it's so cute we'll do like a vote yes kale and the kids kale and the calm kale calming collected because that's what i need to manifest kale calm and collective and we're just calming co jackson and i are just like

tweedlede and tweedledum you know i mean or like frickin frack i don't know i don't know what you would call good bye but anyway well i hope that you have a good rest of the week and i hope that you get to feeling better and i know that you have a super busy week coming up as do i um which is why we are podcasting on a sunday night um sorry about that but if you guys have not followed us make sure you do that on coffee convos podcast on instagram um if you have not subscribed to our show you can do that by searching the purple podcast app on any apple device type in coffee convos click subscribe click the fifth star and leave us a written review you can also find us on spotify or any other podcast app and actually christin is also um back on doing the newsletters

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