Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 19: He's Back--Javi Returns & Is Completely Unfiltered

Episode Date: March 15, 2018

Kail and Lindsie have Javi back on & he gives himself the title of "Coffee Convos' Favorite Guest." Kail & Lindsie talk about wanting Javi to come to Atlanta & Lindsie calls him out for flirting with Kail on Twitter! Lindsie asks Kail and Javi questions you guys have asked & they discuss the possibility of getting back together. Can they see themselves getting remarried? Would they ever do Challenge Exes? Hear the juicy details. Kail's book can be preordered at 13thandjoan.com/kailynlowry/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We've had Leah on. We've had a psychic medium. Now, I don't know. How many of them have come on twice? I'm just saying. You begged us to come back on. Javey just likes hanging out with us so much that he was like... We got to get him into it.

Go ahead. He was like, I've got to get back on coffee combos because I just love them so much. We need to get him to Atlanta next time. Oh, my goodness. I know. That would be so fun. It would be so fun. We get some pictures and show him around Atlanta. But would you guys be able to hang out like for that period of time, like two days without like getting in a...

Right. I mean, two days is a long time to be spending time with him, but I think I could do it. You know, I think we've been doing pretty good lately. And when's the last time we fought? I know. I was going to say, like, you all have been so nice to each other over Twitter. Like, I don't know, like, what's going on. That's a lie. You know, I tweeted about my book. Go get my book, guys. It's called A Letter of Love. And I tweeted about it and Javi said, no. He tweeted me back. He was just flirting. He was just flirting. He was just like trying to ruffle feathers. Is that what that's called?

Yeah, that's flirting. Yeah, that's flirting. Like, in this day and time, that's flirting. Oh. Right. And I'm pretty sure some media outlet picked it up immediately. Ooh, good, good point, Lindsay. Maybe she's right.

Who knows? I'm on to something, guys. What do you think viewers would say if we got back together? No, no, stop. You can't start because I've got a bunch of questions for you guys. Okay, okay. Lindsay, it's, it's turn. Lindsay's talking.

All right. Let's get into it. Let's get right into it. Okay. So the first question that, okay, these are viewer questions. These are coffee combo viewer questions. First off, Hobby, we need you to say that coffee convos is the best podcast ever. That's a fact.

Coffee combos is definitely the best podcast I've ever listened to. Right. Because it's probably the only podcast you've ever listened to. But we tell people that. Have you even listened to it? Coffee Convos? Yeah. No, but I saw the episode I was on was top 10.

So, hobby, you're such a liar. You have been listening to coffee convos. You knew all the dirty deets that have been going on. That's why I wanted to come back on so we can get some of these dirty deets on your new episode. What episode is this like 12? No, we're on episode 18, actually. Oh, man, I'm behind. No, this is 19.

No, no. This is, oh, is this 19? This is episode 19, hobby. Then let's get right into it. All your listeners want to listen to the juicy stuff. So let's get right into it. Okay, so these are coffee convos, viewers' questions that I've pulled off of social media today. Viewers questions.

Okay. And this is directed towards both of you guys. Can you ever see yourself getting married again and falling in love? Well, first of all, that question is asked backwards. They said, do you ever see yourselves getting married again and falling in love? Well, wouldn't it be falling in love and getting married again? Well, maybe you wouldn't necessarily get married if you fell in love. I'll let Kayle answer that first.

No, you go first. She asked you first and you're our guest. Oh, you're right. You got the hot seat. To be honest, I think obviously a lot happened between us in our past. And I think we've all kind of moved on from that and just living life now. So if whatever happens in the future, I mean, there's no walls or barriers. So whatever happens happens for me, at least.

What does that even mean? You're not saying anything. You didn't answer the question. It just means that I can't predict the future. So, I mean, it's hard not to fall in love with me. So if you fall in love with me again, I'm not going to. Oh, my God. Are you on crap?

So. Are you on crack? Go ahead. I'll let you answer it this time. No, after that, I'm not even answering it because you. Go ahead and answer, Gail. I don't have any words. I'm not saying yes or no.

I'm just going with the flow. Everyone knows I fly by the seat of the, the seat of my pants. Okay. So basically that's Kail's way of saying that it could possibly happen. Basically. Like, it was basically what she was trying to say. Yeah. Like, that was Kail's way of skirting around saying, like, possibly.

Okay. I have to say the energy of this podcast is way different than the last podcast you did with us. Because after I listened to it, I realized I have a radio voice. So it's just now I'm comfortable and I'm just going with it. So let's keep it going while the iron is hot. Okay, the next question is do you guys think it's possible to get divorced and then get remarried? You want me to go first? Yeah, you're a guest.

Before I was like, there's absolutely no way. Like, I've heard of stories of like friends that have been in that situation and they get divorced and are separated for a little bit. Our contractor did that. Oh, I think that's who you're telling you. He got married to his first wife, got divorced, got married again, divorced, married again, divorced. and then the fourth time remarried his first wife. That was crazy to me. When I hear stories like that, how do you do that?

How do you, I don't know how it's possible, but I think letting go to the past maturing and just, if it happens, it happens, I guess. Well, I mean, it would be very hard because you're literally insane. That's Cam's way of flirting again, obviously. Oh, whatever. The person who asked this question said that she and her husband got divorced and then remarried. two years later and that it allowed them to work through all of the problems that caused them to not be able to be together and that they have had the best relationship, like, since they got remarried two years ago.

Oh, wow. Yeah, for sure. I definitely believe that. I think that's maybe time apart would be good for them. And I definitely see how that could happen. Oh, Harvey, you're such a narcissist. He's literally, Lindsay. He's on Instagram live and he's staring at himself answering the questions, making me.

making sure that he makes... Is he wearing the Ninja Turtle headphones, though? Yes, he's wearing my son's headphones. Like, Javier, are you ever going to invest in your own headphones? I think I have beats in my... I'll tell you what, you guys, let me make me a full-time guest here. I'll get my own stuff. What does that even mean?

Lindsay, I'm ready for your next question. Let's keep it going. A full-time guest? Are you serious? Yeah, what does that even mean? Maybe we'll do like a one-time-a-month, like, hobby segment. Yeah, like, Hobby gets his own... segment on an episode.

Yeah. It'll be like a little snippet, like a little like 10 minute snip. You guys do need some manly stuff to talk about. Like a lot of viewers, they got husbands, boyfriends, talk about sports, you know, what's going on. That'd be good. This is coffee combos, not ESPN. Make it coffee and monster combos. That's not a plug-de-monster.

That's a coffee and energy drink combo. Something like that. What are you talking about? All right. Let's go, Lindsay. Next question. Okay. Next question is.

would you guys ever do challenge exes? We should do the challenge exes. That would be lit. It would be lit, but Kail is the most unathletic person I've ever right. First of all, stop throwing shots to me because I promise you I'm going to go to the gym

and I'm going to prove you wrong. First of all, I'm running a marathon on Sunday, so I don't want to hear anything from you. Prove me wrong. Let's do it. I remember Kail when we were married, I remember she was all of a sudden she woke up wanted to play lacrosse at DSU. went to Dix, literally bought the whole Olympic lacrosse equipment.

I played lacrosse in high school, so it was fine. But let me just tell you, I did a tough mutter and I, two of them actually, and I did a really good job. So give credit where it's due. I think we were just going there. Tell the story about Kail waking up one day and just decided that she was going to be a college athlete. A division one athlete at that. Let's start there. Division one.

D1. Look, lacrosse walk-on athlete. We went to Dix. First of all, the coach asked for me, so thank you very much. Literally, she bought the most expensive stick. No, I didn't. You're so dramatic. She did.

I bought this mask, a mouth guard. I'm like, Kail. First, you know, I'm really realistic about things. And if you want to try to be a walk-on, great. The coach asked for me. What do you mean? Okay, so she spent hundreds of dollars on all this stuff and ask her how many times she used it? Kail, how many times did you use the,

lacrosse gear? Honestly, probably one time. And that was only to take it from the car to the house. Oh my God. Kiel, why did I not know about this? Because you know what? I'm slightly embarrassed, to be honest. D1 athlete was not like something that I knew.

I played lacrosse in high school. So I definitely had, I had a chance. You know, the coach asked for me. I had a small chance. You guys, I didn't know that my co-host was a D1 lacrosse star. Like, I didn't know. Oh, geez.

Mm-hmm. That's so great. That's so great. You wanted to try. No, I just crossfit when I can, and then I did the tough mutters, and I'm not an athlete, okay? Maybe, I think if we did go into the challenge, we would fuck shit out. I would make sure that I train.

Actually, you know what? We should make a change. org petition for that. For what? To be on Battle of the X's? Well, I've gotten some hits to be on their interviewer for the times. Obviously, they don't want me. But when it still apply?

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I don't know. Well, I mean, a lot of people want to know. And, like, I personally want to know. So I don't feel like it's over. Like, personally, because I'm friends with Kail. And I feel like it's just not. like 100% over. And I don't really know why I feel like that because I feel like y'all slightly hate each other,

but you slightly love each other. It's like a weird vibe. It's super weird. I will be saying that. It's a super weird relationship. It's like really weird. I've only said it's a very strange. I just, Havi has worse mood swings than I do.

And so it's very hard to deal with. Okay. Do you guys stalk each other on Instagram? No, I don't, I don't even look at his Instagram. I don't even think I follow you. I don't follow you. He just begged me to follow him back on Twitter. Because I kept behind her tweets and I don't want people to think I was stalking her.

I didn't see them. They were funny though, right? Barely. Burley. Good question, good question. Tell the truth. So do you guys go and look at each other's Instagram profiles? I don't look at his Instagram.

Just because you're not following doesn't mean that like you're not following. I don't look at his. your recent searches. Oh, here we go, Lindsay. Moment of truth. Oh, my God. If there's, if Pobby's in here, I'm going to be like, I don't, I can't explain that. Whoops.

Oh, I didn't mean to do that. Didn't mean to do that. No, you're not. Oh, damn. My recent searches include Lindsay, Leah, coffee combos, bone, a dentist that I follow. Some friends from school. Lindsay, I guess that there goes to all your questions. I answer to all your questions.

Sorry, guys. So I guess Kale is not. not stalking hobby, but it's hobby stalking kale. Let's check your reasons. No, let's not check my phone just died. So why are you like? Oh, my phone just died. Oh, that is the lamest excuse in the book.

iPhone 4. As I put my phone in my pocket. Oh my gosh. He doesn't want me to see all the host texting. Hobby has been looking on Kail's Instagram. You know it. Right. And he doesn't want me to know.

Yes. I get it. No, I don't know. Oh my gosh. Gosh. Okay. Next question. This one is directed toward Tavi. And this is my personal question. A girl that you dated from Guatemala when you were 11 slid into your DMs. Can you please tell us what this is about? Oh my gosh. First of all, you were dating when you were 11? Not even. I wouldn't even consider it dating. Or you had a crush on her. No, we like pecked, kissed like force, you know, like when your older cousins forced you to kiss another girl.

She liked me. We were 11. Whatever. I still remember that whole thing. So I'm going through my DMs, bored of outside of Kail's house, going through my DMs. And then there's this girl. She hit me up like 30 times within like the last six months. I don't want to be mean.

Like she, I'm sure she's a sweet girl, but I haven't seen her since I was 11. I'm 25 now. But it is kind of funny. I was laughing a little bit. So was like she trying to like really slide into the DM or was she like? just trying to say like catch up like since like she like she I don't think she was sliding she was like full blown jumping in there like do you remember me oh you're too good for me now I'm like oh my gosh yeah I would say 30 messages would be like a head first dive that's overkill for sure

I was like I know I drip sauce but you got to chill a little bit what my god oh man you like that one No. Actually, you got that from Instagram. I saw that. I saw that. So the kid at best buying on that Instagram video. Where he's like, I'm flavoring at drip saucy. Yeah. It's funny. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Okay. This is another question. Hobby tweeted all this Twitter beef, but who's willing to throw hands in person? Yes. What was it about? Yeah, what was that about?

Who was it directed to? I guess it was directed to me. Kind, some of it, but there's a lot of like on the challenge. There's a lot of beef and all these tough guys and tough girls. So who's really willing to throw down? Like if I know and I see people in person, well, I don't really have beef with anyone. But if you were to see, let's put you in it. If you were to see, would you believe to throw down?

Honestly, I go back and forth with it in my head all the time because yes, do I want to punch a couple people in the face? Yes, but at the same time, do I want to catch a charge? Not really. That's what I said to you. It's not really worth it. You know, I kind of pride myself on having zero mug shots and I... Low-key shot. Dang.

I don't want to... I don't think anyone that I would want to punch is really worth a charge. Facts. I mean, in the heat of the moment, they might be worth it. But thank God, none of us live in the same state because... I think my whole point was I was tired of seeing social. media thugs and tough guys. And I know for me, myself, personally, my opinion, I'm not going to fight anyone unless you disrespect my family or, you could disrespect me all you want. I don't really care

as long as you don't disrespect my kids. And see, that's the thing is like I've been saying, Janelle could get punched in the mouth for what she's been saying lately about she brought out my kids saying that I had Lux for ratings. That's what I mean. So you talk about my kids, you deserve to get hit. But also, I don't know. We'll see how I feel when I see her. Well, let's hope that you don't catch a charge because I would like to keep podcasts. So I hope that's not the case. No, I hope it's all civil. Blown over by then.

I think it's honestly like it's so heated right now, but a lot of times like stuff like this, it's like heated one day and then it's like you check like three days later and nobody cares about it anymore. So hopefully it's one of those things. I agree. But I did, you know, I keep seeing like article after article about like all of this teen mom stuff coming up and like how fear is suing teen mom and you know all the stuff going on with David and whatever and it's just like terrible I mean I think everybody should just like get it

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It was probably around close to midnight, if not midnight already. It's kind of late. And it's been a long day. he asked Larry for another beer. He said no. He got pissed off and he said, I'm going to drive to get beer myself then. He's pissed off. He was already drunk. And as he was walking out, there was balloons in his face. He pulled out his pocket knife and started popping him. And everyone was like, what the fuck is going on? Sorry, I curse. We're like, what is going on? So. Wow. I wasn't there. So. Janelle, I will give her credit, like, where credits. do. She did kind of say he was walking out and that balloons were in his way and that he, you know, pulled out his knife and was just popping them. So. But then she recanted and told Vince Russo that he was tangled in the balloons. Right. She did. Yeah, she did say that. So I mean,

I wasn't there. So I, you know, obviously, like, I'm not part of the teen mom cast. So I don't know what happened. But I don't know if, I don't know how he like had a pocket knife on him. That's not even, like you can't even have that. That's what I'm saying. There's. There should have been metal detectors and stuff. I mean, we don't have to sit here and keep talking about it, but it is what it is, I guess. Yeah, so on to the next thing. This is also MTV related. Javi, being Javi, how is it filming Being Hobby versus Teen Mom?

Yeah, Hobby. How is filming Being Hobby versus Teen Mom? Let us know. Being hobby was kind of cool. I think it showed a different side of me as far as, you know, what I do on the day. daily and, you know, working out takes such a big part of my life and then mixing Lincoln in the mix and then mixing kale co-parenting. So basically teen mom. Yeah, but now I focus on the dads or whatever.

You literally mention my name every single scene. Someone mentioned my name. Okay. So that being said. I just feel like it should have been just about you. Right. I mean, well, I mean, you're a part of my life. So that's part of me.

So we had to talk about it. We had to bring it up. And then we're seeing each other at games. So whatever, I don't remember what we fought about during when at the soccer game. I don't think it was like a real fight. But regardless, I mean, Keel was pretty upset with some of the comments. And, you know, I'm at the point now where I'm not trying to make her upset or say anything bad about her. I've realized she's had my back for a long time.

So I think I need to do the same. And whether she's right or wrong, I need to defend her regardless of who it is. I mean, I'm not really asking for you to defend me. I just feel like I've kept my mouth shut for a lot of things when I could have put you on blast, but it doesn't solve anything. But for some reason, it doesn't benefit me in any way, shape or form to keep my mouth shut at this point. So I would, this isn't, the question wasn't for me, Lindsay. I know that. But I, Harvey and I did have a long discussion after being hobby aired because I just didn't feel like it was fair to me to make being hobby about me. I know, and I know that you all had that same issue with, like, your book and that y'all aren't doing anymore. And I didn't get to watch Being Havi yet. It's on my DVR, so I'm still planning on watching it. So I don't know, like, about any of the beef or anything that, like, went on during it.

So it was just literally a general question. I know that it aired, and I know that, like, I saw a lot of tweets about it. So I was just wondering how it went down. I think, like, Kail, you do get defensive about, you know, like people using your name or whatever, and you want things to be, like, about that person and, like, their side and not necessarily, you know, your side in it. Like, you feel like you want to be that person there to be able to tell your side of it. So, I mean, I understand that perspective, too. Yeah, I mean, I just, for me, too, like, some of the people that made comments are people that I don't feel like one specific, one specific.

one specific person on there, she doesn't know me. So for her to make any type of comment, it kind of hurt. And I think that in the heat of everything with Javi and I, he never explained to his people or like people that, you know, he's friends with that. All the things that I did do for him, they only focused on the bad. And I never explained that to, you know, the show. I mean, we've talked about it before, how I shut down when we filmed that stuff because I didn't really want to hold it over his head. But like, it's hard for me not to resent him for that. And then when I see being Havi, even though it was six months old. It was hard for me to watch it when these people don't know me. They only know what they hear from Havi and then to have it

re-aired again about me when we've been divorced for nearly two years. It should have been more about him than it should have been than me. It should have been about whatever he wanted it to be about, not discussing me every scene. That's all. But you'll be able to comment on it more when you see it. Yes. This will be like a stay tuned because we'll talk about it again after I watch it for sure. Okay, cool. And real quick to kind of piggyback off of kale. I think an important thing about my friends, it was all one-sided, right? So I only heard my side and the bad stuff.

So I would think naturally for them it would be like, oh, you should have all this hatred or resentment or animosity, whatever it is towards kale. But really, I don't. You played into that, though. Maybe. And especially with Kim and Bree and those people that were my friends too, you played into. I hate her, but really you didn't. I mean, when we went to marriage boot camp, you were telling them, oh, I would never get back with her.

But meanwhile, you're crying to me by wanting to get back together. So that's partially your fault. It is. So it's hard for me not to take that personally when I see it air all over, but I have your back when I shouldn't. And I think, I mean, I'm just playing, like, devil's advocate, like, from the other side of it, that, not that, like, I'm taking hobby side or your side or whatever, but just, like, being in the media and,

I think as a guy, Hobby probably wants to, you know, I can't be hurt type personality. Like I'm moving on with my life and I'm doing this and I'm doing that and just like having his friends and not trying to. I don't know. I think it's like what he does with you. Like what he does with you might be something totally different than the image that he's playing off with his friends.

But it comes like he's hurt. And I don't know. Like I just see like a totally. different side of it. Not that you're wrong because I see what you're saying too, but I just I think it's like a defense mechanism that Hobby uses and correct me if I'm wrong, Hobby. I mean, I could be wrong. You're completely right. No, I think you're right.

It just sucks that it's at the cost of me and how people view me because I shut down in a way that actually negatively impacted like it was my own fault but also affected me, I think, in a worse way at what cost for me to defend him and not say anything about I don't know. And I think too, you have to be more comfortable.

You have to be like more comfortable filming like the uncomfortable stuff because no, it wasn't even that it was uncomfortable. It was things that, you know, he was throwing me under the bus for so many things. And I didn't want to throw him under the bus for what he was doing because I promised him I wouldn't. I didn't want my kids to know. And I just felt like I was doing the right thing. Okay, well, the truth will come to light. Like that was more or less my.

And honestly, next season. pretty sure that's what happens. So it almost is like, we'll see what happens. Right. With everything that happened this past season. Well, I think that y'all are like completely unfinished. That's the word that I like to use for you guys. That's a good word.

That's just what you are. Like you're completely unfinished. Lindsay called it first. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good book title. Unfinished. by Kail and Hobby. Mariquin.

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How many hours of sleep do you require to function at 100%? Y'all both answer and then I'll answer mine. Howie only requires five minutes. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I've been on like 30 minutes of sleep, but I'm good. I wake up and I'm just happy. I'm a very morning person regardless of how many hours of sleep I get. So that question to me doesn't really pertain. Kale?

I like a full eight hours. And if I don't get a full eight hours, I'm full on zombie mode. So I am the opposite of hobby. Yeah. I'm more along those lines. Like give me like eight or ten. Yes, I agree. Like the more sleep, the better.

And then don't talk to me for like at least the first hour that I've been awake. Don't even look at me. Yeah, like enjoy like my peace and quiet. Like if I get up before the baby's up, I'm coming down having my coffee and enjoy it. I don't even turn the TV on. Like just let me get my meditation space. Oh my God. I feel like you would kill hobby in the morning.

Oh my God. When we were married and he would like get up to get ready, I, no, you need to go in another room, go shower somewhere else, go get dressed somewhere else. Because if I wake up and I can't go back to sleep and then I have to wake up with the kids, we're going to have a problem. Always in a good mood. Always kissing her goodbye. Even if she's sleeping. No, you didn't. So he made sure to go get shower in the bathroom that wasn't in our room and stuff so that I could wake up with the kids when the kids got up instead of. Kail and are literally the same person in so anyways. I mean, first off, don't kiss me in the morning. Like, that's just facts. Like, don't.

Don't even come near me. Like, don't even let me hear you breathe because it's not necessary. And I could totally see Hobby, though, like being so nice in the morning, like, so happy. Trying to make love. Trying to heal him. No, get out. The door is right there. No, yeah.

But he didn't kiss me in the morning. He would just. I'm sure he gave me, like, a head. head nod and was out the door. Yeah. It was like that. Probably. I don't even remember. I don't even remember. I really don't. I just know he didn't wake me up in the morning. So thankful. Okay. So the next question. How do you guys feel about outsourcing certain responsibilities of life, like child care and house cleaning?

outsourcing. Like child care. Like you're not taking care of your, like you having like your child go to daycare or having a nanny at home, having a housekeeper. Do you prefer to do those things on your own or do you prefer to have somebody else do those things? I mean, Hobby doesn't do any of those things. Hobby has someone that does them for him. I think I'm not against them. For me, I can't, I'm not against them.

I sometimes have house cleaning service and laundry service. Yeah, which I always piss me off. Whenever we were married and she would get that done, it would make me so mad. It's a waste of money. For me, I'm very... But your mom does everything for you. It's essentially the same thing. I don't have a mom to do it for me.

So if I need help with the stuff... My mom did it for us when she was here too. Right. Right. So if you just keep up with it... But you can't speak because you don't do your own. on laundry and you don't clean the house. Look, I'm barely in the house, so.

So you can't even speak on it. Right, you're right. Irrelevant in that one. Next question, Lindsay. That was a bad question. Of course, like, y'all are arguing over, like, the household duties. That's like a typical couple things. Well, because Havi would never mow his own lawn and I would get so annoyed because I'd have to, in order for it to be done properly, I'd have to hire somebody to do it

because Havi didn't do it properly. He would leave, first of all, he would wait two, three weeks to cut the grass and then leave the clippings all over the yard, never clean the rock beds. And even if I helped, like, it just wasn't getting done right. So yes, I always had to get, I did hire people to do that. So I will say that you guys as a non-couple couple would prefer outsourcing things. Yes. Well, yeah. I mean. For convenience purposes. Maybe, yeah. I would say that's a fair statement. And see, for me, you know, Kiel, how bad my anxiety is. Yes, Lindsay, you have to do everything yourself because you like it a certain way. Yes, like, I have to do everything myself. Like, I don't think anybody can clean a toilet as good as me.

I don't think anybody can, like, do my laundry the way that I like it done or take care of my child the way that I can take care of him. I just, but I stress myself out. And sometimes I think, like, it would be so much easier and less hassle just to pay somebody to, like, help. but I can't like get out of my own way to do that. Like I have to do it all. Yeah. I mean, I respect it. I know it's a pain in the butt, but it's, it might.

But it's a struggle. It's a struggle. Right, but it's a blessing and a curse. So. Yes. Okay. So which household chores do you like to do the most? And what do you like to do the least?

How he doesn't do any. But when we were married, I said, he hated doing the dishes and I didn't mind it. So I said I was never doing laundry and you can have all the laundry and I'll do the dishes. And before my mom moved in, I was doing all the laundry. Yeah, I'll give you that. And then your mom moved in and then she took over pretty much everything. Yeah, okay.

But I still hate laundry to this day. My least favorite thing to do is to fold clothes. Like I can wash all day long. But like if I had a professional folder, I would be. be like set. And putting it away too. Because I'll fold it and leave it in baskets for three weeks. Yeah, that was my pet peeve.

Cale will do laundry and then leave the clothes in the dryer for days. Not the dryer. Or in a basket. So the wrinkles are still there. So everything you just did was gone to waste and irrelevant because the clothes are wrinkly. So you have to iron. Do you remember that one time I had a meltdown because I put clean clothes in the baby swing and they filmed it and zoomed in and I was bawling because I was like, people are going to think it's dirty. I had a newborn, okay.

Oh, Lindsay, you're bringing up all the old times when we're married. Don't be letting them reminisce. Going back in memory lane. Taking it back all the way back. Way back. Okay, you guys, you know, I've talked about this before and it's been a struggle for me. I've had so many problems with my skin. I've taken so much crap for it and I have to tell you that bio-clearity has truly worked for me.

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I love the smell of like a clean house. It makes you feel so, like, especially when you do it, it makes you feel so, like, domestic. Can I ask you guys a question? What? You know, there's so much going on in the world today. Let's let's talk about it. I don't know if I put diodon today. You never do.

And you always got VO. Guns or no guns? Guns or no guns? Okay, so I have conflicted feelings about it because there's no way, like, as many, as many guns that are out there, like, there's, if you, as many gun owners as there are, If you just said, like, no guns, it's going to be mass chaos. Like, nobody's going to just, like, go and turn their guns in. Like, what kind of world do people, like, think we live in?

Right. I think... In the black market. I think that, like, stricter gun laws should be enforced and that... I don't think that you should be able to buy the type of guns that are being used in these school shootings. I don't... There's no need for that. Like, what do we need to use that?

Unless you're military, what do you need that for? I mean, you don't know. To me right now where I stand with this whole topic is, right now, the first thing's first before we make any new gun laws or implement anything new, we need to find a way to protect our most valuable asset. And that's our kids. And that's our future, our generation. So we got to figure something out there school-wise.

Figure that out. First of all, can I just stop you right there? My feeling on that is number one, administration is they're not, I don't feel like they, some of them lack in procedure drills. So that's a huge issue, like aside from the gun thing, you know? So somebody's like these kids. Like it was reported to the FBI for like this recent shooting. It was reported to the FBI like multiple times, right? Yeah, it was.

What was the gun, an AR-15? Yeah. Who the hell let him in the building like that? At my high school, you walk in one door and you walk out one door. Yeah, but I think he had it in a book bag, pulled the fire alarm, and that's when it all went down. I mean, I don't know. You got real deep on me, and I don't know if I was prepared for this conversation. That's an important topic.

I think using your platform. I just got a notification on my phone that Trump is proposing bonuses for teachers who have gun training. Great. I mean, I think you guys having this podcast. it's good to talk about these types of times. Yeah, but it wasn't prepared for me to go this route. So, I mean, this is out before I go, you know, this is just where I stand. And it is what it.

To me, I'm pro-gun by guns. I think take away the age. They're saying, own a gun or not on a gun. For me, it's my responsibility to take care of my family and my kids. So it takes, what, an average police officer, three to five minutes to arrive your house. That's 45 when I was when I called them. Two minutes and 50 seconds too late, you'll be dead by then. So for me, I have a responsibility to take care of my kids, make sure they grow up safe and sound.

So that's just where I stand with it. And I mean, we have guns in my house. So, I mean, I'm not going to say that we don't. Like, they're there for self-protection and, like, to protect your family. But I don't think they should be able to, like, just people be out on the streets with these things to, I mean, I don't know. It's just, like, super freaky kale. and I talked about this earlier this week about how we both, like, wanted to homeschool our kids and, like, look into homeschool groups because public schools are not, we don't feel that they are safe. And that's a very, like, general statement to say, like, public schools. But that's where the students are happening. Catholic schools are probably more of a likely target than anything. Even if you homeschooling kids, it's still, you can go to the grocery store and it's happening. And it's a church. You can't even go to church nowadays without it.

it might possibly happen. So I don't know if that's the answer. I think there's other answers, but I see your point of homeschooling trying to keep them safe in your arms and you control it. Kids can't defend themselves. But there has to be a bigger, a bigger, there's a bigger issue at hand that we've got to figure out how to control it the best we can. I don't think the issue is as much the gun, though, as it is like the security for guns.

Like what is implemented to make sure guns are not coming into the schools, like the metal detectors, things like that. For sure. That's the first thing they need to address and figure that out. And that goes back to, I mean, administration and procedure. And obviously, you're not going to be able to stop every single one because people are going to find a way to do it. But also, I mean, like I said, my high school, you went in one door, you came out one door. And you couldn't get in or out of any other door in the high school. So I don't know. I feel like there definitely needs to be more security. And administration needs to

work on their drill procedures and, you know, stuff like that. Javi, what happens, like, in, like, the military when a school shooting or something like that happens? Like, what? Well, this morning, I got a call from the school that, I guess there was on social media a post that there would be an attack on a high school called SHS, which is also the high school of the school district that Isaac goes to. And it's probably a mile away from Isaac's elementary school.

And they were working with law enforcement, I guess, to basically see because it was a threat to all of the United States. And Hobby called me shortly after. Yeah, what happens? What do they tell you? Well, as far as school shootings, I think that's more of like a National Guard type situation. So I don't know what they do because they work for the, what, the government, not the government. They work locally. They work for the state as opposed to us who, what we do as far as war type of things like that.

We go through exercises yearly, multiple times, inspections and make sure we're up to day. We're going through an exercise right now. But how did you hear about the school thing when you called me this morning? They call my phone. Let you know. Yeah. So like the base isn't going to shut down. I'm not trying to sound shitty, but it's not going to shut down because of a school shooting.

with our assets aren't being affected. I'm talking about airplanes or everything like that. Right, right, right, right. But they call you to let you know? Yeah. Okay. But yeah, we go through exercises, make sure we're ready for all situations, especially right now with a lot of stuff that's going on overseas.

We're going through a lot of exercises. Just you never know what's going to happen. So we're preparing for the worst. Yeah, it's such a scary world that we live in. I think back like whenever we were all little kids, I can remember being in elementary school. And it was around the same time that, like, bomb threats and stuff, like, what you say became a thing. Like, I feel like back in the 90s, schools got, like, bomb threats, you know, occasionally.

And I remember going through a drill. And it wasn't even, it was like our county had had a bomb threat, not like a specific school. And I just remember, like, my teacher being terrified. and I was in second grade, like, when this happened and just being terrified and we were, like, outside of the school and they were, like, scurrying around. But, I mean, I couldn't imagine, like, these children, because even high schoolers, like, they're children. I couldn't imagine the feeling of how they felt, like, the survivors of these shootings, like, how they feel, this is something that is going to, like, haunt them for the rest of their life. Yeah, it's sad.

And, you know, I was talking, my mentor, he has a kid in high school and he has two little ones. and it's that the kids are defenseless. He told his son if that situation happens, and it's better if you're going to die. For me, I feel the same way. If you're going to die, at least try and stop him and save yourself or run, then just stay there helpless and hope he doesn't hit you.

I mean, so it's hard. I don't even know what me and Kayla are going to tell our kids if this is still going on when they get older. Well, I mean, don't you guys kind of feel like, I mean, it's really like, sad and disheartening that our kids can't really be like little children like, you know, we were. We were allowed to like go outside and just like play and be kids. And now it's like you have to teach them about school shootings. I mean, when they see this on

the news, kids aren't idiots. Like they know what's going on. So they have questions. And that's terrible for, you know, Jackson, even like, mom, what's going on at five years old? Yeah, I agree. That's, it's really sad. And you should not be having to answer questions about school shootings and people like shooting something up to a five-year-old. But that's the reality and that's the world that we live in. Yeah, for sure. It's definitely sad.

Okay, so on a little bit lighter note, one last question, how important are birthdays, anniversaries, and other holidays in y'all's life? And are they like majorly celebrated or not really? I don't really celebrate any of those things. Like, they're not important to me. If we go do something cool, if we don't do something, it doesn't really, I'm not really affected by it. I mean, I try to make my kids birthdays and stuff like that special, but Havi on the other hand. I'm the total opposite.

He wants every little birthday party, every milestone, every anniversary. He wants them all big, extravagant. things. Everyone knows. All my friends know when it's my birthday, it's, I got something planned. First of all, when he was getting deployed right before, here we go. I have to tell this story because I'll never forget. So I had this habit of always throwing Javier birthday party and because I know how much he loves them. Well, when we were going to get, I filed for divorce right before hobby's birthday and which is in December. And, you know, but we were civil, whatever. And I was like, I'm not throwing you a birthday party and I'm not throwing you a.

going away party for your deployment because I feel like we should just have a dinner for you when you get back. And he wasn't having it. He wanted a birthday party, a going away party, and a coming home party. He wanted it all. And she, yeah, you did. You threw me a going away party. But I did not have the birthday party. No, you didn't. I was upset. And then we fell apart anyway, so you didn't get a welcome home from me. But from everyone else you did. So you got two out of three. But Havi likes to celebrate everything. Like, I think he would, if it was our dog's birthday, you know, I think he would celebrate that if he could. But, yeah.

Yeah, I like to throw parties and celebrate with my loved ones and make it a night to remember. Kail, do you feel like it's because like you probably, I mean, I don't know because we haven't talked about this, but I would assume that you probably like didn't celebrate like birthdays or holidays like that much whenever you were growing up. So do you feel like that's why you don't really care about them or you think it has nothing to do? No, I mean, I think, you know, having not having my kids on every holiday makes it hard for me. So like this past Christmas, I didn't put a Christmas tree up. I didn't do decorations. I didn't do anything because I didn't have my kids. But yeah, I think it does have a lot to do with my childhood.

I mean, Christmas was a big deal for me until I was about 10. And then after that, I really, we didn't really celebrate Christmas anymore. I didn't, Easter was never a thing. I never did Valentine's Day. I never had birthday parties, like none of that. So I think that's a huge, I don't know, I think that impacted me a lot. But, I mean, I try to make it special for my kids, you know. But this year is my year for Christmas.

So we'll for sure celebrate that this year. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So like, what did you say? I think I got a guy at home. I got a four-year-old waiting for me to get home. Oh, Lincoln's waiting.

Yeah. So this was a pleasure. I hope I get the extended invite for number three. I heard the third times of charm. So let's get this back with a number one. You promised us number five. So you better be promoting this episode for us. I tell you what, if I get top five, I got to come back for number three. Yes. We'll definitely. Thank you so much, Hobby. All right. Lindsay, thank you. All right. Talk to you soon. All right. Later. Yeah. So growing up for me, like birthdays and stuff, were super like a big thing. Like it was a big thing. Like I always wanted like my favorite meal for my birthday. Always like birthday parties. It was it was a big deal. And then holidays have always been a big deal too. And I get so excited for like holidays for whatever reason. To see like your family and stuff or just because you just like the holiday? I just like to have something to celebrate, I think. Just like different times of the year to have something to celebrate like Valentine's Day.

was cute. Like we made chocolate covered strawberries and I bought Jackson Mrs. Petttoehead so that he could like have her marry Mr. Potato Head because he's been waiting on that for a while. And so he's like, he's been waiting on that for a while. He has like he's obsessed with the toy story stuff. So he was like really, really excited to get that. So it's just like doing like little small things. I feel like it breaks up the year and it just gives you something to celebrate. So I really do like holidays. Maybe we'll get you into it more. Yeah, I mean, every other year, I think they're better for me because I have the kids.

But if I don't have the kids, it's not worth it to me. Okay, well, now since Hobby's gone and we can, like, talk as girls, like, do you think that, like, you and Hoffie are going to, like, get back together? Oh, my God, no. I don't, I don't know. I'm not, I can't, I don't know. I don't want to speak on it. Like, because if I speak on it, it'll speak into existence. Yeah, like, I don't want to speak something into existence that.

Do you know what I'm saying? If I put it out there in the universe, then it might happen. And I don't want to do that. I want to just see. Just like organically happen. Like if it happens, it happens. But if it like doesn't, then it wasn't meant to be. Exactly.

Yeah. I feel like you're getting along so much better right now. Like obviously y'all fight and bicker, but like I just feel like that y'all's personalities too. You know, like I think people read way more into that like fighting and bickering than what it actually is because I think it's just like y'all's personalities with each other. Yeah, I always tell you, it's the weirdest freaking thing. Oh, yeah, it's so weird.

Like, it's like y'all get along so well, but, like, y'all don't get along so well. It's so weird. I know. And, like, I can see you all together, but then I can see all, like, separate, too. I just have been so used to, like, being single that I just don't. I don't know what it would be like to, like, have to answer to someone. Like, be with somebody in that capacity again. Yes.

And that's what I, yeah, exactly. Because remember we talked about how you like like your space and like. Yes, I love it. Like you like kind of like being home by yourself. But I think that's just like a boundary thing too. You know, like do you just work through that as a couple? Like if you like having your own space, it's like, okay, I've got the living room and you take the bedroom or like do whatever you want to do. Like you know, Javi goes to bed early, but you kind of go to bed early too.

So I don't know. I guess we'll just see like what the future. holds, we won't speak anything into existence just in case. Yeah, I just, let's just play it out. Let's just see how it plays out, you know. I'm so glad that he got to come on and talk to us. It was a good little, always good to have Javi on. He's got such a good little personality.

Sometimes. What? I said, sometimes. Sometimes. Well, I mean, you see the side that, like, I don't see because obviously I'm not romantically involved with hobby. I mean, you're not really either. but like you have been.

Right, right, right. I see like the fun side of hobby, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I think most people do so they don't understand it in my relationship with him. So, but it is what it is. It is what it is. Well, it's been a good one. I enjoy talking to y'all. All right.

So thanks for listening. Go pre-order my book, A Letter of Love. I'm super excited for my book tour. It starts in April in L.A. So, Lindsay, maybe we should go record a podcast out there. Maybe we have something else coming for people that we're not going to speak into existence until it's solidified yet. Correct. That is true.

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