Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 192: Live Shows, Pets and Parenting, and Single Parenting

Episode Date: November 25, 2021

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! On this week's episode of Coffee Convos Kail and Lindsie are dreaming big and talking about podcast live shows. Kail recently attended one and it got her thinking about what it would be like for Coffee Convos to go on tour. And Lindsie just welcomed a new puppy into her family! She talks about her journey to find Georgia and how things have evolved since bringing her home. But this got Kail and Lindsie thinking; how do relationships with pets change when you have kids? And how does the situation look different when the pet has been around longer than the children and vice versa. And when you start single parenting there are things that come up that you never saw coming. Kail and Lindsie discuss some of the surprising aspects of being a single parent household. This episode was sponsored by: Skylight Frames, Athena Club, Canva, & Ring Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Welcome to coffee combos. Um, are you in a good mood? You know what? I'm in a very, very rare, rare form this morning. I've, it's been one of those times where in, in my personal life and in my personal noggin, um, I'm going through some heavy stuff, but like you still have to push through, right? Like I still am a mom. I still have to do all the things. And so, that being said, I'm dealing with the personal stuff and simultaneously have had a really, really, really good weekend. So, um, it's just like a weird place to be. I've never related to anything that you've said more arguably. Um, like what, what is life? Like I am having fun by day and I might be crying myself to sleep by night just like because of like personal

shit. So it's like, it's so interesting to be here. Well, I can relate to this in the sense of trying to go through a divorce, but also remain in good spirits. Yes. And like know that you have all of these obligations as a parent. Um, almost feeling like you don't know what to do. Are you supposed to put on a happy face? Are you supposed to like be in the feeling so that your kids can see like, okay, it's okay to be down sometimes and it's okay. Like trying to navigate that part of it. And then also like all the regular life shit that is thrown your way. Like I have to pay my bills. I have to take care of the pets. I have to do like all of that shit. My therapist was saying like, because I did talk to her and she was like, you know,

it's good to acknowledge how you're feeling. So like it's okay when you're going through some shit. Let me, let me give you an example. So through the divorce, yes, typically, um, I'm not speaking for everybody. I'm just speaking for some situations. It is a very difficult thing to go through. However, it's okay if you smile on some of those days. It's okay if you have a good time with your friends on some of those days. Like that's basically what she was telling me was like, it's okay to like feel how you're feeling as long as you acknowledge, like you sit in your feelings when you need to. And I was like, well, I really don't want my kids to see me cry because I don't know what I'll say. And she was like, Kale, you don't have to give them an explanation.

You just say, you know, I'm, you know, mommy's crying because mommy's sad. And if they ask, like, why are you sad? It's just, you know, these are adult things and I don't want you to worry about why I just want you to know that, you know, I'm sad right now, but we're going to get through it kind of thing. And so not necessarily like giving them an explanation because I, I didn't really know how to explain, like I don't know how to explain it to them. Thankfully, the way that I would have, you know, after talking to my therapist, I would have cried in front of them had I needed to. But thankfully, it just, I have been okay when I'm with them. And so it's been, it's been fine. And like I said, we've had such an incredible, like I had such a great weekend

Lindsay that it was like almost good that I like recognized what I was going through, how I was feeling in certain moments, but then like, okay, at seven o'clock on Saturday, I was going to get ready and go do this like dinner and show that we were going to, and like it felt good to like give myself a little bit and then do what I had to do. So it feels good, not that I'm advocating for having distractions, because I truly do feel that you should sit in your feelings. But not to the point that like, you obviously personally know what's going on in your life. And it's okay to sit and be sad, but also you can't let that control your entire being either. Right, right. So I'm glad that you had some things planned to do and

you're going to be, you're going to be better soon. I know. Well, I came from, Isaac just got his braces on right now. And so I was, I was worried I was going to be late, but he came out just in time. And then the office, the orthodontist office is right down the street from my office. So it's like perfect. And he was excited and he got to pick his little like colors. And so that was kind of cool to like, see that. And, you know, I was like, I'm we got to take care of them. I don't know about Jackson, but my kids don't have school all week. Yeah. So Friday was his last day going into the holiday week. And by the way, happy Thanksgiving to everyone who is listening. And also your little fam. Speaking of braces though, I die because

Jackson has still only lost two teeth to this day still. And he's like, wait, I'm excited to get braces. And I'm like, well, at this rate, you're going to be literally 32 when you get them. So here we are. I mean, that's okay. That's, he's got nice strong teeth. Like, do you feel like kids are getting them so much earlier now than we did though? No, I don't. I think they're getting them a lot later because Kristen and I just had this conversation. They pulled teeth out for her to get them because they didn't want to wait for them to fall out. But when I, and she said she's like truly traumatized by it because she's like, why wouldn't you just like wait for the teeth to fall out? But Isaac, when I took him for his

like consultation and like all of that, they were like, you know, he might get them later because we want to wait for all of them to fall out. So I was like, okay, like that makes sense. So I, I don't think so. I think maybe it seems that way because we are older. Yeah, maybe. But like, I feel like sixth and seventh grade seems about right in Isaac's and sixth grade. I feel like I see so many little kids so having braces and maybe my focus is just like when I see them being so little that they have them, that I have a skewed sense of maybe kids are getting them earlier, but I would be interested to know what our listeners think and if they are putting their kids in braces earlier or later. Oh yeah, that's a good point.

So I did want to talk to you about something that I went to go see on Saturday and kind of get a sense of where your head is at and also our listeners. Oh, you're putting me on the spot. Yeah. And I did this on purpose. I was going to text you like over the weekend while I was there, but I, so I have been dying to go to a live podcast show for forever. I tried to get, I did get tickets for Snooki and Joey's one live podcast show, but then it was canceled because of COVID and whatever, whatever. So there was one in DC this weekend for Caitlyn Bristow put it on. And I am not a bachelor follower, a bachelorette follower. Truly didn't know who Caitlyn Bristow was until I got into like the podcasting industry. And that's kind of where I was like, okay,

who is she? Like what does she do? And I love her. Like she's so cute. She's so funny. And I went to one of her podcasting shows and Lindsay, when I tell you, I had such a good fucking time. Like I just didn't expect it because I thought it was going to be like very bachelor based, which it was. It was like very like bachelor nation based. Even though I had no idea like who they, like the bachelor people were and like all of that, it was such a good time. And I want to know like, would you do a live show and do what our listeners want live shows? Like I just need to know because it just, I loved it so much that I was like, I want to do this. So I've, obviously you and I have played on this idea for a long time, even before

I think people actually started touring doing live shows. I feel like we've been talking about this for years. Oh, 100%. And we just never knew like where to start because how do you go about planning something like that? But I mean, obviously got answers over the weekend. But yeah, we've talked about it for forever. I just wanted to kind of do my market research and just see like what is it like because I, you can't really do something without knowing what to do. Well, that and also like where are our listeners based and where would you guys want to come to a show? And Kale and I behind the scenes have also talked about like, okay, for the cities that we have a listenership, do we travel to those cities, do these live shows and then also host how Joey

and Snooki did like through that web, whatever, what was it called? Looped. Yeah. Like, do we host one on there for people who can't make it to the shows? I think that there is a lot of feedback that we need to get to find out, you know, like where would our first show be? What would that look like? And wow, maybe we can have some like serious like fun shit going on. Maybe we can have an esthetician there doing waxings like. Well, it was super cute because Caitlin had, you know, she has like her scrunchie line or whatever. And she had, I guess with the VIP tickets, it comes with like a little package for like her scrunchies and stuff, which I thought was like a super cute, like you're really double dipping because you have people coming for your podcast,

but then you're also promoting like whatever personal brand stuff that you have going on. So I thought that was really cute. It was highly, highly interactive with the audience. I will say that it is not her show specifically. I haven't been to others yet, but I did tell Kristen that I do want to go to a couple more because not all podcasts are the same and not all podcasters bring the same thing to the table. So I do want to go to like a maybe like a true crime live podcast show to see what that looks like, like more of like a talk show based talking based podcast show. Her's, Caitlin's was very, very interactive with the audience. And that's what I would want to do, like talk to everyone who listens to our bullshit every week. Like, yeah. And she had a guest that

was local to that area, like from the franchise, she had her guest, like wherever she goes, I guess she would pick a guest that would be close to that area. So it's not like flying them out or anything. I don't know. I can't speak for all of her shows, but that one specifically was like within driving distance. And it was really cute because they have like, you can order dinner and drinks. So it was like at a winery. And then you can order dinner and drinks like before the show or like during the show. And she had like her, I guess her best friend is also her assistant and like took all the content so she didn't have to worry about like a content creator. And then it looked like she knew the DJ. So the DJ is someone that she knew. I wish that you, I'm going to

send you the videos I got just because it was the cutest fucking and it was like bachelor theme, bachelorette themed, because she's getting married. That is so cute. Bride and dirty was like the theme on the banner. It was so fucking cute. And I was just like, honestly, and like, it was kind of nice to know that like she also talks about like vulgar topics like we do, like we talk about like dirty waxing appointments and dingle and dangle and shit like that. And like, she also talks about stuff like that. So I was like, okay, this is super cute. I definitely love this. She put on a really, really awesome show, but she, so it's a tour. Like it's not like you go to a show and then you come home. That's like not a thing. So we're going on a bus. It's like a full,

well, she gets on like planes and stuff. And it's like a full tour. Like you're not going to like, go to a place, come home for two weeks, and then go to another place. It's literally like show to show to show to show to show over like a two or three week span, and then you go home. Kale, what are we going to do with our kids? Like, are we homeschooling them during this time? I mean, I, this is our job. So like, I would make it happen, whatever that look, whatever that looks like, because think about like three weeks out of the year compared to well, yeah, out of the whole year, you know what I mean? Like I would make it happen. But I absolutely loved it. I thought it was amazing. So I'm going to send you the pictures and the videos I got.

And so you can kind of see like what I would, what I mean. But if any of our listeners are on here, I would love to know if you guys have gone to podcast live shows. Have you been to any, which ones have you been to and what city specifically? And then is that something that you guys would want to see from us? Also, make sure that you are following at Coffee Combos podcast on Instagram, because these polls and stuff will be posted on the Instagram page. So we want to hear your voice, make sure you're following so that you can catch it. And these Instagram stories, I think do expire within 24 hours. So once that voting is over, it's over. So if you want your voice to be heard, make sure you do it there. You can also, if you miss it,

you can also, you know, put it in the reviews on iTunes or whatever. All right, you guys, we're going to take a quick break to talk about one of our partners, Skylight Frames. And I talked about them last holiday season and with Christmas right around the corner. If you are looking for the perfect gift for your loved ones, this is such a great idea. I know the past year has really taught me how important sharing moments with friends and family are and just how hard it is to stay in touch when you have friends and family that are so far away. And if you want to give a gift that will make either your mom, dad, grandmother, a friend feel like he or she is right there with you during the holidays, Skylight is the perfect gift for that.

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Christmas or the year before last, I can't remember, but they absolutely loved it so much. And they also get photos of their other grandson on there. So I think it's really cool. And now as a special offer, you can get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight frame when you go to skylightframe.com and enter code coffee. That's right, to get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight frame, just go to skylightframe.com and enter code coffee. That's S-K-Y-L-I-G-H-T-F-R-A-M-E.com promo code coffee. In other news, can I just tell you something that I thought about after we were talking about Dingle and Dangle? What? So I was texting Kristen this weekend and maybe it was on Friday. I'm not even sure if it was the weekend. So basically I'm a liar, but prairie dog-ing. What the fuck is that?

What do you mean? It's like where you have like, you need to shit and you like have a turd and it's like like trying to come out, but you are like not letting it come out. No, I'll just shit myself. No, I would literally just shit. Like I am not, if you're gonna have shit on your underwear, just fucking shit yourself. Like don't even bother. It's already there. Go away. You can't say that. What? What do you, that's, no, that doesn't happen. That doesn't, why does that happen? Okay, so I sent Kristen this meme and it was like when you've been prairie dogging a turd for 30 minutes and there's no bathroom in sight. God, why have you forsaken me? And it's like these gophers and one's like standing up and the other one's sniffing its ball hole and

I'm just like, I've got to post it on the page. Actually, Kristen's going to, but like so you just shit yourself. You don't prairie dog ever. Yeah. So like, do you feel like you know in enough time when I have to go to the, no, my body does not work that way. My body is my brain and my body do not work together on this. When I have to go to the bathroom, I need to go right now. There is no waiting. There is no holding it. Oh my gosh. Kale. It is the worst adult problem I honestly face on a day to day basis. There is no, like my brain and my body do not cooperate on this, this topic. So you have never been at like an appointment meeting? I will shit myself. It's time for me to go home. If there's no bathroom, I have to prepare myself to shit

myself on the way home. I've got to have Kristen post all the memes. Like you're going to get on the page and you're going to be like, okay, Lindsay's never allowed to be on here again. Ever. Ever. I'm disgusted. So now let's add prairie dogging to our terms that we use, dangle, dangle, prairie dogging. We're basically just disgusting. So here we are. Disgusting human beings. Absolutely. Here we are. Guess what happened this weekend for us while you were out having a wild time at podcast shows? I was planning something like I was planning a wedding. A wedding. Like I know it was very over the top, but the surprise that I have been talking about, um, I got Jackson a dog and there's a little backstory to this. I had

prepared to get the dog in January and thought that'll be perfect timing. It'll be like after the holidays, after our Disney trip, everything. So contact the breeder because she tells me that the dog's going to go and get ultrasound to make sure like everything's okay and to see how many puppies are there. Dog goes and no puppies. So I'm like, oh my gosh, like I have already told Jackson that we are getting a dog. He's already named this dog. This is going to be like a big problem if we don't have a dog by January. So there had been a local breeder that I was going to get a dog from because she's super close and all of her puppies were sold. So I randomly just go on Instagram and I, you know, type in her thing, see if, you know, maybe a dog popped up pregnant, you know, something

wishful thinking probably. And I see that she has exactly what I'm looking for ready to go. And I'm like, okay, this could not be real. Like this is not real. Um, anyone who's ever bought a dog from a breeder, I feel like a lot of times breeders will post pictures of like their prettiest puppies to like get people to contact. So I truly thought like maybe this was like a marketing thing. Like they're posting a picture of this puppy, get people to call get them on this waiting list. So I contact 1130 at night and she texts me back and she's like, no, she's available. This thing happened with the family. She was the pick of the litter and the family got the puppy home and within like an hour, the little boys, I started swelling up and she immediately wanted her back.

So that's how we ended up getting her. And when I tell you she is absolutely so precious, so good. And Jackson is so in love. I did one of those little styled picnics because I also don't have him for Thanksgiving. And that's something that I was a bit struggling with. Like I want to celebrate Thanksgiving, but like don't really want to cook a big meal because Jackson's not a good eater anyway. And it's just like us too. So I was already planning this little picnic. So I just like combined it all together and oh, that's super cute had will bring him. And I literally bald like never cried harder. I don't know that I cried like that whenever I got married. So Oh, yeah. And like she's so precious. Did you guys take pictures of the little picnic and stuff?

Oh yeah, like I have pictures. I have videos will surprisingly actually videoed Jackson walking up to the picnic and seeing Georgia because he had no idea that she was there. And the video is just so precious. So I will definitely be posting that this week, but was just trying to take the weekend to try to get acclimated because this has been a big transition. I know you know with puppies, because you've had many. It has been a transition and just trying to figure out like what works for us. Like I'm not trying to say like what works for us works for everyone or anything, but I did find someone who can come out and train her at our house, which oh nice. I was going to do the sending away thing like you've done before and whatever, but then I couldn't give her to Jackson

and then send her off, you know, and so that was hard. So yeah, so her trainer comes for the first time today to do like the personality test and all of that. So it's just, it's really exciting. And that's so exciting. And so what I need, I'm hoping that you've got the video of his reaction. Oh, I got, there's multiple videos like from. Okay, I can't wait to see them. So we have it's so great because we have from like Will's point of view because he videoed and then from mine because I videoed. Oh, that's so cute. Oh my gosh. I love that for you guys. She's so cute. I know when you sent me the picture, I was like, she is so like also every time. So wait, okay, time out. Let me go back. Do you have Della? Like do you and will like just will have Della then? Like so

Jackson will have Della over there when he's with Will and then he'll have Georgia with you or like how does that? What does that look like? Yeah, so Will has Della. She took to Will and definitely once will came home from work and started working from home. Della was like his right hand, his assistant, all the things was going on with Della and will. And so I just could not as much as I wanted to bring her to my house. I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that to her. I couldn't do that to him. And so since she kind of took up with him more, I was like, you know, that's just a loss that I'm going to have to cut my losses and mourn and do all the things. And I still get to see her so often. So it's okay. And she's thriving over there and doing really well. And she's getting

older. And so she does really well with Will and Will did not want a puppy. And so I was like understandably so. And Jackson's been asking for a dog of his own for quite some time. And so she's going to be with me. But I am traveling for the holiday. I'm going to Tennessee for Thanksgiving. And so Georgia is actually going to go to Will. So we're just trying to be flexible with it, trying to figure out exactly what's going to work. When I travel, will definitely will keep her. And when he travels, I definitely will keep Della. So okay, well, that'll be sweet that you guys are able to do that. And that's the word. That's the word. Yeah. And she's just kill when I tell you, I've never fallen in love with something so much outside of like the first time I laid my

eyes on Jackson, like I didn't know that I could love a dog like this. Oh, that's the sweet I always say like when my dogs pass like the ones that I have now. Well, I said this last time too, like I'm just not going to get more animals. Like I just you love them so hard. And then they're a lot of work, like they just are a lot, a lot of work. It's weird though, because I thought I don't want to have like all this extra work and something else to like rely on me or anything like that. But now I'm like, okay, I want to get training and I don't mind getting up at four o'clock in the morning. It's literally like having a newborn again almost getting up, taking her out, whatever. And then what's really cute in my neighborhood is there is this group of ladies

that have a group chat called the Paul Squad, and they send out a text whenever they're taking their dogs to the dog park in my neighborhood so that anyone who wants to like go and let their dog hang out and run and play with other dogs, then you have the opportunity to do that. And I think that's so cute. That's so stinking cute. I don't my new house is not in a neighborhood, so I won't be able to do that. But that is really freaking cute. Like, oh my God, like, that is so that is so posh. And I just love it. Okay. All right, you guys, we're going to take a quick break to talk about one of our partners, Athena Club. If you guys know me, follow me and listen often, you know that I absolutely adore

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One of our listener topics from this week was pets and parenting. And it was talking, the question was, do you love your pets less once you have kids and is it hard to give them the same attention like once you have kids? So this is probably more of a question for you since you've had them longer. And I also have more children. Yes. I have an answer. What's that? I said, I have an answer to this, but I feel like it's more relevant to you. So I do think that it does vary by family. So, and I'm going to say why. So I have a cousin who has three kids and they have a boxer and those kids fight over who's taking the dog for a walk on a regular basis and they let the dog open his Christmas gifts before they do and they named the

dog awesome. Like the dog's name is awesome. So there are multiple, there are multiple kids in that family and that dog gets treated like a child. So I, but in my family, I would say, do I love them less when I have kids? No, because I had all my dogs have been after I've had kids because I never had a dog growing up. And so like that was like the one thing that I was like, I'm going to get a dog. I don't think I love them less. I think the more kids I've had, it has made it a little bit harder for me to give the dogs like one-on-one attention, taking them places, things like that. But when I can, I do. It also just does, it depends like if the kids are involved, like my kids truly do not care about dogs. Like they don't care. They're not like the kids that go up to every dog

and like want a pet dog. Like my kids do not care if they have dogs or not. The only dog that they have cared about up until this point has been there. Well, that is so interesting because I feel like you just have like a plethora of pets and you would think from the outside looking in that your kids were like super dog people. Yeah. No, they're not dog people. They're not animal people at all. Like animals in general. Jackson is a big dog person. He loves all dogs. Definitely had to teach him like you don't pet strangers dogs without asking. That was something that we had to go through. And when I tell you absolutely obsessed, like he has not put Georgia down and he is truly to me at the perfect age to get a puppy because he's old enough to know like what he should and shouldn't

be doing that she has to go to the bathroom that she has to eat that she has to have quiet time. So almost nine years old, I feel like is the perfect age. But to answer the question, do you love your pets less once you have kids? Actually, Will and I had a dog that we got in college. Her name was Gigi and Will's dad actually has her now. I think she is at the vet today actually getting some obsessed teeth pulled bless her heart. But she's very mean and the older she's gotten the meaner that she has gotten. But once I had Jackson, she became very, very possessive. And I don't know if I've told this story on here, but I would the closer I got to having him, I don't know if she like felt that that was coming or it was like the new things that were coming into the

house like when we started putting swings together and you know getting the boppy and like all the stuff out. She knew change was coming. And so she would start nipping at me. And she had never done that before. And once we brought Jackson home, she would get up and like perch over him and like hover over him and it scared me to death. Like I'm a first time mom never had a baby. And now I have this possessive dog acting like a lunatic. So I told Will I was like, it's probably best that we just like send Gigi to your parents because I don't want her to like bite his face off or something, you know, right? I mean, yeah, when I'm seeing these behaviors, and Will viewed it as she was being protective of him, but by being protected with him. Yeah, you don't want to take that risk.

No risk, right? So now they have her and I do feel like it was very easy for me to let her go to them once I brought Jackson home because my priority was him. That was never happened. That doesn't mean that you love her less. That just means that there's big changes not just for you guys, but also for the puppy, you know, like, no matter how old she was at that time, that's still a huge adjustment for her. But that doesn't mean you love her less. It just means that the change in circumstances required, you know, different circumstances for the dog. Right. So I don't think that that's bad. You know, I don't think that you love her less. Just you she needed she needed different,

different caretaking, I guess. Well, and then with Della, we got her when Jackson was like two years old. And so I feel like my priority was still always him. Obviously, she was a priority too. And she's been treated like a queen her whole life. But the love's very different for me. But now that we have Georgia, he's nine years old. It's almost like an entirely different experience because I feel like I can give more to her than what I ever could have to Della, because we got her when he was two years old. So right. So Jackson goes to school all day. And so you'll still have parts of your day with just Georgia where you can give one on one. You know what I mean? Where it's like, I have four kids of all different ages and my kids don't go

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Okay, something else that is everyone knows that I love the Kardashians. And something that is so interesting to me is this Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson romance and people are saying that it's fake and it's for like, I think it's a cover-up publicity stunt for this Astro World stuff. Wait, so then tell me before I even get into this, tell me your theory on that relationship or you want to update on Astro World? Well, all basically. Okay, so I'm going to update with Astro World and then I'm going to, okay, I do think that this Pete Davidson, is it Davidson or Davidson? Davidson. Okay. Kanye said that Kim had never filed for divorce, that they weren't even getting divorced or like

whatever, they were going to work it out. Yeah, you didn't know that? No, what? Kanye, let me pull it up right now because I didn't, I thought you knew that. Basically, she gets on, what was it? Saturday Night Live. And Kanye West said that he and Kim were not even divorced and he's never seen divorce papers. So when she got on Saturday Night Live and you know, obviously she didn't write that script, like you know, her whole in the pink suit, do you know what I'm talking about? Right, yeah. She killed it. She absolutely killed it. I think she looked awesome and whoever wrote it was absolutely hysterical, like so funny. But he responded by saying he's never seen divorce papers and him and Kim are, you know,

Kim Kardashian is still his wife. He said that. So fast forward a little bit and we have the Astro World concert that is absolutely devastating to so many families and people, which right now, I did see a couple of different variations. One source says that there are $3 billion in lawsuits and one said that there's $2 billion in lawsuits at this point because eight people died and so many people were injured. I don't know if you guys are following this at all. CNN was the one that reported, hold on, I have freaking pop up. I hate pop ups. CNN is the one that is reporting 280 people have been named in the lawsuits. And so I believe in my personal and humble opinion that this Kim Pete Davidson thing

is Kris Jenner working overtime to cover up the news about Astro World stuff. So I would love to actually put for not for next week, because we have an amazing guest coming on next week. But for the following week, I would love to put a timeline together of all of the Astro World events, the conspiracies that have come along with this kind of like how we covered the Brian Laundry stuff with the conspiracies, etc. I think that that would be interesting so that everyone can kind of follow the bouncing ball. I don't think that it is far fetched to say that Kris Jenner could be working overtime. There's a lot of money here at stake, a lot to lose and a lot of brands that are at risk here. I did hear that and again,

this could be rumor, but I did hear that basically the show that they're filming that all of the parts with Travis Scott were being cut out. Don't know if that's true on the Hulu show. Yeah, don't know if that's true or if it's not. But that is what I read that all of the parts were being cut out. The reason that I think that it could possibly not be far fetched is that with her being a part of Saturday Night Live and Pete being a comedian and just like really funny, there's also been other rumors about his junk and the size of it. So I mean, there could be something there and then let's not forget Courtney and Travis and that whole vibe with Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly. Maybe this is just Kim saw all the attention that they were

getting and maybe she wanted some of it. Not that she is hurting for attention by any means, but that was kind of a conspiracy that was going around as well. And I do know that Davidson is like BFFs with Machine Gun Kelly, who is also close to Travis Barker. And I just think like this could could be like something that they all have in common and like a friend group that has now turned into romance. I just don't buy it. I can't get behind it because Machine Gun Kelly and Travis Barker are very different than like Pete Davidson. They're just like different vibes. They might be friends, like cool, whatever, like you can be friends with all walks of life. But like and like Kim rode so hard for Kanye and has always defended him and had his back,

no matter what. And so for her to I just like and I do feel like despite like keeping up with the Kardashians and like social media and stuff, I do think that she has been pretty private about like her divorce and like her marriage and she's always defended it no matter how bad or good. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, but then explain. Okay, so she's going to go to Staten Island to a restaurant to have dinner with him. Supposedly they met up there at this pizza place and they entered through a back door, shared a couple of pizzas and a private dining room. And then it was like two nights in a row. So then they met friends somewhere else and were later joined joined by a group and then there were pictures of Pete, Kim, what about

Flav, Flav and Christian are like all in one photo. So this is this to me, it just is so fucking left field. I just don't buy it. And like, if I was a cool a list celebrity, which I'm like Z list reality, but anyhow, I would also do this if I needed to help my sister get out of, you know, the public eye or my sister's kids dad get out of the media attention and like distract like I would do the same. I absolutely would do the same and then a lot less for a lot fucking less Kim was wearing the same matching outfit as Pete and also they were matching Chris. Yeah, that's fine. It's all I don't I just don't I just cannot because her kids are old enough to like Google and stuff and like I can't see her like no I'm not I'm literally Googling Kim and

Pete and like aren't her and Ariana Grande friends. Yeah, but like everybody doesn't live off of the same codes right like what if she's just like I don't really care for friends if like I want to be with him. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe she's casually seeing him like maybe like casually dating. I do not buy it. I do not. I don't. I really, really don't. But then I'm also like, okay, how are these three beautiful women with guys that I wouldn't consider them to be like striking like Lindsay. I mean, I'm just saying that I saw a little rough. I saw a meme that was like there are bums out here with with 10. So what are us fours left with? What are what are us fours supposed to be with? But they're not bums. I'm not calling them bums. I just thought it was funny.

Kind of applied to what you just said. I'm not calling them bums. So please let's not rip me to fucking shreds on the internet. I just listen to me when I say I just don't buy it. I'm not having it. I don't I don't believe it. Literally the fact that it's showing up on Fox News when I Google is like, are you kidding me right now? Oh, wow, I'm seeing the picture of with Flava Flav. Like what are they doing? This is this absolutely vogue.com has Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner, Pete Davidson, and fucking Flava Flav. This is absolutely a cover up in my opinion. How's Kylie doing? How's she holding up? How when does she do? No one knows. I mean, maybe people who are listening do know. I don't know. The weird thing is that I don't really

follow much of what the Jenner sisters do. I follow Courtney and Kim. Okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, I love Courtney. Courtney is a good time. I love her. She looks like she would be a fun. I love it so much. Another listener topic that they wanted us to discuss and I feel like it's super relevant is what are your biggest struggles as single moms and what are things that you are not prepared for in the beginning? So you've been doing this for quite some time. What are some of your biggest struggles? Time management in all, like across the board, time management, time management with giving each of my kids individual time with me because I feel like that is so, so, so important. Time management in getting out the door in the morning or when

we have something to do during the day and honestly, patience. Having the patience when one child or two children are being great and two of them are being a little bit more difficult or just like, I really try to only make meals that I know everyone will eat. So like the other night, I made pasta and I knew that two kids would eat with sauce and two kids would not. I know if I make tacos, one of them will eat a quesadilla. They'll eat whatever is in the ingredients, but I might have to just like make a different variation. Yeah, I'm not going to make Lincoln eat a taco with me in it if he only wants a quesadilla, but it's the same ingredient, so it's fine. Time management in that is like meal planning and meal prep is really hard. I do

Hello Fresh for myself and some of my kids will only eat some options, you know what I mean? So that all comes down to like time management and things like that. Things that I was not prepared for in the beginning. I was not prepared for how different my kids would be. And by that, I mean how they internalize things, the way they express themselves, how they express their feelings and who they are. You know, Isaac is very, very private. He doesn't really, I have to like kind of let him tell me on his own terms and how he wants to. Lincoln will tell his dad anything. Lincoln is a man's man, a daddy's boy, like that is, you know, Javier is his right hand. And so he's a little bit more close off to me. And then Lux is the complete opposite. Lux is,

so I just like wasn't prepared for how to navigate through emotional things for the kids. And especially for Isaac and Lincoln, you know, Lincoln is dedicated to sports all day, every day. And Isaac has a really hard time with that because when Lincoln discovered his love for sports and for football, that kind of pulled him away from the interest that he had that he used to share with Isaac. And so dealing with those types of things and just like changes in every day in everyday lives, like as they get older, things get more intricate, things get more, you know, personally, what is the word I'm like, like they get more not intimate, but like, but yes, like they're how they feel about things, they're developing opinions they have,

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thankful for, because I do think that it allowed me to have so much going on that I didn't have time to really like stop. But then I also didn't expect to kind of like crash and burn, if that makes sense. Like once all of the new kind of started wearing off and I started feeling a sense of settled. At that point, then I really realized like, okay, this is for real, like there's no going back from this. This isn't like the first time where I went and lived with my nanny. And you know, I can just go home, like my old house is sold. Will's moved into a new home. Like this is my home. We have made financial commitments at this point. Like I struggled a lot with that. And then I think that I really underestimated the things that will helped with, I guess. So if I

was busy doing something like even, even to go to like the nail salon, for example, to I knew Will was going to be home. So it was like, okay, I'm running to the nail salon and I'll be back. Now it's like, I have to have much more of a schedule to know kind of like, okay, this is what's going on. And I have this amount of hours to get it done. If I'm going to do it during the time that I have Jackson. And so the time management part for me. And again, I only have one. So I can't even relate to, to yours. But I think I very much underestimated the flexibility of having a two parent household versus one. And then I do feel like that I was not prepared for how Jackson was going to either fold into the new normal or how I was going to navigate that because it was

just so unknown. Like I didn't, and as much of a planner that I am. And so type A, that was really, really hard to not have all of the answers because I'm definitely the type of person that looks at every situation and try to come up with all the outcomes. Like it could be this, it could be that. But in that situation, it's very hard to know exactly how your child is going to react to something. And the unknown was terrifying to me. Although I do feel now that Jackson is doing his play therapy and I'm in therapy. Things are as normal for us. And I use that word normal loosely, but as normal for us as I feel like they, they possibly can be. And I get a lot of messages on Instagram, on Twitter, Facebook, people saying, well, your situation is just like really weird,

why don't you and we'll just get back together. You are toxic like Courtney and Scott. And you are, you know, this, that it's like, it's very easy to judge from the outside. And I also feel like I don't have anything to hide. So like if Will and I are doing something together, I don't think that that's wrong for me to share. Or sometimes I feel like if I'm not sharing it, that I am living a lie because then what if somebody finds out about it? And they're like, Oh, well, like you and Will are together because that that did happen actually at Jackson's open house, there was a mom that basically said that Will and I were doing this as like some type of publicity stunt. And we were really together, took our picture coming out of the car. We rode together to Jackson's open house,

took a picture of us coming out of the car, and told other moms at the school that we really worked together. So it's like, that's also a hard navigation to navigate me feeling like I'm doing something wrong, knowing I'm not doing something wrong, being told that I'm, you know, by some people that I'm doing things wrong. And I'm just trying to create like what's normal and good for us. It's weird that people would say that because even if it was a publicity stunt, are they in the public eye? Probably not. So did they know what that's like to be in the public eye? Do they know if you got paid to do a publicity stunt? Probably not. Do you like, not, I know that it wasn't a publicity stunt because what the fuck, but it doesn't affect anybody.

Like you get what I'm saying? Like it doesn't affect them. So even if it was a, and it doesn't really, you guys wouldn't have bought separate houses if it was a publicity, like, come on, right? Come on, like, there's just so much. And I'm also sitting here thinking as you're saying that, um, if I was going to do a publicity stunt, it wouldn't be something that would take something so emotionally out of me to do that. Like I'm trying to do things that work for us. And although some people might not think that that would work for their family or they feel like that's weird because it, you know, it's something that they wouldn't do, doesn't mean what I'm doing is wrong. Just fucking weird. People are so weird. And so opinionated.

I'm like, we all have opinions, assholes, cats, whatever, but like be gone with your opinion. Like I'm trying to do the right thing. Like yesterday, um, Will has lots of trees in his yard. And so he has a bunch of leaves that have fallen and big leaf pile. And so Jackson wanted to take the puppy over there to run the leaves. And I got a cute little video of them. It was so sweet. And she did have such a good time and played her little heart out. And I don't think that's weird. I'm like, Will's doing yard work. Um, Jackson and I are like strolling around shopping and playing with the dog. It's not that big of a deal for me to drive over to Will's five minutes away to let the dog play the leaves because Jackson wants to go over there. Like

it's not a big deal to me. Right. Right. But then it made me think like, okay, in your situation, um, with having two, well, a baby dad and an ex husband, would that be a thing that you would do? Because at one point Harvey was with someone else had a second child. Like did that, does that change the dynamic once that happens? Or how does that work? Like Joe got married. Um, would you just, I mean, would you have ever just like strolled by and let them play like not on their time? Or was that just something that you guys didn't do? I haven't done that a thousand times. Okay. So do you feel like that's normal by situation? I don't, I don't know that it's normal. I think if you make it your normal, then it becomes your normal. And so anything that's foreign to people,

they think is weird. They want to talk about it, whether it be good or bad. And so the same thing, remember when I updated everyone, like a million podcasts ago, it was like, Harvey and I are not back together. We're just like really good friends and things were good. Like literally if Harvey called me right now, because Lincoln's not at school and was like, Hey, can we come by and be like, yeah, sure. Like I don't care. It's not a big deal. Right. No. And, or if he was like, Hey, come have lunch with Lincoln today. Not that he would do that. But if he did, I would be like, okay, I'll be there as soon as I'm done podcasting. You know what I mean? So it's like, if you, if it is your normal because you made it your normal, that's fucking okay.

There was a point in time where I questioned it and I was like, you know, are we confusing him? And so I actually asked Lincoln myself, I was like, are you upset that I hang like sometimes we hang out and we're not together? And he looked at me and he was like, no, he doesn't remember what it's like for us to be together. I don't think because he was like two. So he just knows like sometimes my mom and dad hang out and sometimes they don't. And he knows that we run a football team smoothly together. And so like, I just, if it's your normal and it works for you, it works for you. What works for other people might not work for you. You know what I mean? So like, I just don't understand what other people don't get

about that. And I guess too, and I had this conversation with Jackson and I don't know if you've had similar ones with your boys, but I told him, I was like, we don't have secrets. Anything that I'm doing, I don't care if your dad knows or like anything that we do here. I don't care if your dad knows, like there's no secrets that are going on. We live pretty normally, I would say. Keep using the word normal. We probably aren't normal, but we're normal to us. For example, Saturday, I'm just like taking a little cat nap. We have quiet time. Do y'all do quiet time on the weekends? We used to do quiet time. I haven't in a long time, but yeah, we used to do it. Okay. Well, we do an hour quiet time and it's glorious. So I was having my quiet

time and I had text will and told him I was like, Hey, he was going to be coming over here to bring something for Jackson. And I was like, Hey, just wanted to let you know, I ordered dominoes. So I have a bunch of pizza over here. If you haven't had anything to eat, whenever you bring that, you can have food or whatever. So he comes over. I am snoozing at this point with the dog. Jackson lets him in. I wake up and they're just like in the kitchen hanging out. Will's drinking a beer, having a pizza. And I'm like, Oh, nice, like to know you. Nice to know. Yeah. And it's just like normal at my house, but I have you and I don't knock when we like show up at each other's houses. Show up at each other's houses. Like if he's dropping Lincoln off or I'm dropping like we

don't knock, we just walk in. Yeah, I need to know how many other people also do this or we just literal crazy people. I mean, we're, we're both like will will will be stopping by he'll be on my rower, like doing an exercise. Not the rower. Yeah, eating. Do you think it's worth the investment because I also want one? It's worth the investment kill. It's worth it. Eating pizza in the kitchen. He might be hanging a light. He might be using my Dyson. Like I don't know, like weird stuff that I don't even care about. So I just want to let people know that if it's normal to you, then that's okay. And it's normal. Okay. I also wanted to give this little quick update before we go that I am now hosting the Southern tea by myself. And so I don't know if you saw that

announcement or not. Did you see I did and I low key was a little hurt because I feel like we don't talk anymore. And so you didn't tell me you only told Instagram. So I was like, oh, okay, like if she wanted me to know, she would tell me. Are you okay? Like is everything good? No, everything's, everything's fine. I am excited to take on the Southern tea just myself. And I think it's going to be great. And like, I can't wait for my episode this week. And I just feel like shit's going to be popping off over there. So everybody can tune in on Wednesdays for the tea. And I also want to know just out of curiosity, and maybe person can do a poll about this, if people are subscribed to coffee combos, are you also subscribed to baby

mommas and the Southern tea? I just want to know. That's a good question. I would love to know that. And if not, is it because Kale and I are just like psychopaths on coffee combos that you guys like to tune into that versus the other, I would just love to know. And then right before we hop off of here, I need to know what you are planning to eat for Thanksgiving. I am going to Natalie's house with her family for Thanksgiving, and I plan on eating everything that she makes. I asked her yesterday, like, what should I bring? And she said nothing. So I need y'all's help to help me think of something to bring that would be like useful and helpful and like not in the way. So whether it be like, not food and something else, like just like, please help me. Also,

you're not going to hear this until Thanksgiving. So maybe that's not helpful. Maybe not. I'm going to eat everything. Well, that sounds delicious. I'm also going to eat everything and enjoy my time. And I hope you guys all have a happy Thanksgiving again. We asked we asked you a lot of you guys, a lot of you guys this week. So make sure you go to at coffee combos podcast and contribute to the responses on those polls so that we have accurate information. And I hope that you guys have a great holiday week. And we will talk to you soon. See you.