Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 194: Speaking Out, F Marry Kill, and TV Bits

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

On this week's Coffee Convos Lindsie and Kail are spilling some major tea. Lindsie talks about about some things that have been going on behind the scenes since her divorce. She discusses about how she has been feeling in the relationship dynamic and what the future holds. Then to lighten the mood, Kail and Lindsie play F Marry Harass (no murders here)! From baby daddies to singers find out what Kail and Lindsie's choices are. Plus Kail recalls some of the most intense segments she has participated in on TV, including taking a lie detector test and being on Marriage Boot Camp. This episode was sponsored by: Skylight Frames, Better Help, & KiwiCo Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Rolling! Welcome to Coffee Combo's. Welcome. I feel like it's been so long since I've seen you in person. This feels weird. It's been what, five months? Six months? May. Say cheese. May. Yeah, we were together in May. I've missed you. And before that was with Des Moines.

I feel like this is a good vibe. Yeah, very good vibe. Except my mood coming to this the past two weeks was not great. Why? So I talked about it on Instagram and I feel like I want to say that I don't want to bash anyone whenever I am doing this and the intention is not to bash anyone. But also I do feel like I have an obligation when you have a podcast and you're sharing your real life, you should share the real things that are happening.

And I went to Tennessee for Thanksgiving, my first holiday ever without Jackson. So that was really hard. And I know that you understand from a co-parenting situation the first time that you don't have your kids for the holidays. I did not think I was going to survive. Yeah, it's painful. It's really painful. Even Lux just recently asked me, it's like, why don't we do Christmas? Like how come you don't put up a tree? And then when you're, it sounds like you're going to get through it. And then once the day actually comes, it's really, really upsetting.

Well, like the photo that you sent me on Thanksgiving and you were just like in the bed, chillin' out by yourself. That's so sad. Yeah. And it's just like a lonely thing, and especially for me, because I only have one child. Right. So like without him, it's like, Nothing is going on. Yeah, right, right, right.

So I took him, obviously you guys saw on Instagram that we got a puppy and I gave her to him a couple of days before Thanksgiving. And then we had our custody exchange on Tuesday. And I go to Tennessee thinking everything is perfectly fine. And then I thought it was so weird and I don't know if you ever pick up on this with your kids, but they have patterns like how they communicate with you when they're away. And it's always FaceTime calls for us. And the FaceTime calls stopped and Jackson kept saying, I want to audio call you. I like audio calls now. And I'm like, something's weird, like something's going on and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. And you know that mom instinct that you're just like, literally

yes, it's a pit in your asshole. And you're like, what is happening? Yeah. Okay. So that's how I felt. And I couldn't put my finger on it. Friday morning rolls around. I'm getting ready to go black Friday shopping. And I finally FaceTime Jackson and he answers for the first time. And when he answered, I am going to show you what his face looked like when he answered. And we will post the photo so that you guys can see what it looks like. But literally it is mortifying. And okay, are you ready? Are you ready? That's what his face looked like whole side. Would you say like literally thrown my phone and

like went over there. So he's gotten really big into playing pranks. I feel like he's just like at that age. Yeah. So I thought, Oh my gosh, he has been not wanting to get on FaceTime with me and he is playing this prank. Like he's been hurt and he put like a prosthetic on his face with will. And like this is a joke. Like there's no way this is real. So of course I immediately say, Oh my God, what happened to your face? So he runs to give the phone to his dad as he should, because now will have some explaining to do. Okay. So this was on Friday. This happened on Tuesday when I dropped him off. Not only Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for three days, he didn't talk to you three, three days. I

talked to him, but I didn't FaceTime him for three days. Right. So as the story goes on, will gives me a very brief version of what happened and a very distruthful like the version that he gave was not true. I believe Jackson's version over will's version. As the story has gone on over the days, I find out that drinking was involved and they were out playing golf and Jackson got thrown off the golf cart and hit the cart path and the entire side of his face and I, he told me the next morning when he woke up, his eye couldn't even been open. Yeah. It looked like one of them was closed. Yeah. So what do you even do in a situation like that? I don't know. I was gonna ask you care. No. Don't get me fucking started.

Don't get me fucking. No, I want to get you started because I want to know what you would do out with the same shit. I literally made the executive decision that I'm going to pick up my kids and I'm taking them to urgent care. Oh, I'm taking one of them to urgent care on me notes to me that the other one had the same thing. You can't like at that point, it's like the incident is over. There's nothing that you can do. Right. But it's like not water under the bridge either. Well, and then they also make you feel like you're a crazy person for overreacting and not overreacting. Your son's face is tore up. Yeah. And I said at minimum, someone's face gets hit, head gets hit. You take them to urgent care to

just like, yeah, clean it out. All of it. Well, as the story goes on, I'm like, Jackson, you know, can you tell me everything that happened? And he was like, well, part of the moments was black for me. And I'm like, okay, so do we have a concussion? Like what is, what is happening? So Will and I obviously have been strained since November the 23rd when this happened. And I just like don't even have words. And it's very weird to me that he wouldn't have felt that it was like important to tell you tell me. And I guess the point that I want to make is if we were still married and we were living under the same roof, there would be no choice but for me to find out, right? And Jackson told me

that he kept asking for me and that will said, I'll call her tomorrow. And he said, tomorrow turn to the next day to the next day, the next day. And so finally, like, I see all of this stuff and I'm like, okay, maybe I should be understanding of his side that he Jackson had never been hurt like that. So maybe he was like afraid to tell me something, but that doesn't really give you an excuse not to share something that I feel like is a medical emergency. Yeah, no, wholeheartedly agree with that. Like accidents are going to happen. Yeah, they are, unfortunately. But to hide it from you, especially when you are like the primary person. Yeah, I don't have I did not expect it to be and then not

only I was upset because not only was he involved was will involved, his parents were involved. So now I didn't hear it from him or his parents. Right. And I, I haven't heard from his parents since before we filed for divorce. So all of this transpires, then you'll probably relate to this too. So the first time I see his parents was this past weekend since before we filed for divorce. How'd that go? And it was a basketball game. How'd that go? I felt that they were super passive aggressive, but I feel like they're super passive aggressive in nature. Anyway, like, so not much had changed. Yeah, not much. See, I don't, I don't relate to that because since hobby and I have been divorced and anytime I've seen Joe's parents, like

they've all been especially hobbyist parents, they're they've always been good to me. Like they have never, they were never passive aggressive with me even when Javi and I had problems. So like I've just never been, I've never had an issue with them. I mean, same for Chris's mom has never, I mean, she's gotten smart with me a couple times, but like I don't really have a reason to interact with her. And I guess it's come up in counseling for Will and I that I was a part of their family for 12 years. And like, when we filed for divorce, they didn't even reach out, no one in his family reached out one time to even be like, Hey, I mean, not even about me,

you know, like in general, like, I don't even care if it was about me, but it would have gone a long way if they would have been like, Hey, you know, I know the circumstances suck and you guys get through this. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna get through this and we're here for Jackson. Yeah, like I don't care if they're there for me or not. Right. That's not my family anymore. But but it's his. Yeah, you guys are all an extension of Jackson. So you guys got to, you know, So it was just, it was really weird. And of course, they take up the most expensive real estate on the bleachers like best spot. So I'm like sitting off to the side by myself.

I can relate to that. And that's the worst. The worst, like I should not be in the shadows of other people when they attend my my kids stuff as a mother, right? Like, how do you navigate that? We'll have to be the one that that reaches out to them and says, Hey, like, you know, when you get there, you are to stay on this side and Lindsay needs to be front and center. He was told about that. But I knew. So I had posted some screenshots on Instagram. I read them and I had to read it a couple of times because I was like, Oh my God. So yeah, just a little run in and I won't get into like the whole nitty gritty of that. But basically

just don't be fake. Like if you're going to be an asshole, be a consistent asshole, like be an asshole. Choose what you want to be an asshole. Like I don't care. I can deal with you being an asshole if you're going to be an asshole all the time. Yeah. But don't be one way with me. Like you're literally sleeping with me since we separated. And then you were going to be playing a whole different scenario in front of other people. And I had been saying to myself the first time I see his parents will be very telling because if he acts a different way towards me, you'll know them. I'll know how he's playing them. And so that was the scenario. He didn't even speak to me at the game. Um, up their ass

couldn't have been further up their ass. And I'm like, that's just weird because you don't have a problem with me when you're texting me to sleep with me, but you have a problem with me when you're around them. So just be consistent. So I just wanted to let his talk just like that. I was like, wait a minute. This is my ex in front of people and this is my ex when no one's around. But why is it like that? Um, because they want to control their narrative. I think like they want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to not have it take any of the blame in front of other people and they want to blame us. And then when the doors are closed and no one's around, they want to be up our asses.

I mean, I will call you out. I will be like you, you weren't feeling like that when your pants were down though. So like, why are you feeling like that here in the gymnasium? It's just weird. I don't get it. Basketball court. I just don't get it. And I wonder how many people actually deal with that. I feel like that must be a bunch of people. That's why I don't date men with kids. I would never date someone with kids because I'm not with the fuckery. Yeah. No, no one wants to deal with that. Right. And you know, it's pretty bad when one of the moms on the team comes over, sees me sitting by myself, like estranged from them. And she's like, is everything okay? Yeah. And will for the longest time, he was

like, don't post that we're getting divorced on Instagram. Don't do this. Don't do that. I'm like, you realize that now he's creating more damage though, because when you, when you have someone and I just talked to Kristen about this last night and I'm guilty of it too is like, you pick out all the red flags and the things that's wrong with the other person and you tell your friends or your family about it. But then you both end up looking fricking stupid when you want to get back together because now both of y'all have told everybody the worst stuff and now you want to get back together. So now you look dumb. They say like never tell the people that you're closest to what's actually going on because

you can forgive it, but they can't literally, literally. And that's a scenario. And so I don't know. It's just one of those weird things that I'm just not with the fakery anymore. So I'm just like, if you're going to be fake, then be fake on your own, on your own time, on your own time, don't involve me. And that's all fine. But then, you know, I guess he decided after a couple of days, he wasn't going to be fake because he showed up at my house with donuts this morning. So it's like, you know, really, come on, like, come on, come on. Do I need to send a picture to mom and dad? Like Carol. Yeah. And then I said, Kale. What's so weird to you is that you can edit that out. Do you? It doesn't need to be edited

out. That's up to you. What's really weird too is it's always like said that I am nosy in their business. And it's like, it's funny because since I'm so nosy in your business, how do you know everything that goes on on my Instagram and has talked about on my podcast? There's a fakery bakery around here. There is. And they just want to control so much. And it's like, you can't control what I have to say. And then you're going to sit and say, oh, I can send a cease and desist. You're going to cease and desist what? But also I will laugh at it. I will laugh this all the way to the charge. I will read it to the podcast. I've gotten a couple of cease and desists in my lifetime. And I laughed at every single

one of them. I think I posted one of them. And then you're going to tell me that I can't talk about whatever I want to talk about, which is my life. Well, maybe focus less on what I'm talking about and focus more about what you're doing and give me less to talk about. Right. If you don't want to be known as an asshole, maybe don't treat people like an asshole. Correct. Right. That's how I feel. Yeah. So that's where I'm at. I hear you loud and clear, clear, clear. I hear you loud and clear. So, um, moving on from this, you almost crashed your plane. No, no, I didn't. Yes, you did. Our plane got struck by lightning. Like when you were in it. No, before we got on it. And so they were having a delay because

maintenance or something was happening because of the lightning that struck. Okay. I had a completely different. Not only were on it because I think my hair would probably be fried if that was, you know, So what were you guys doing? We just were waiting. We were just waiting. Um, we were in the airport and Javi probably was texting me on some fuckery. Um, I wait, spill the tea. What's going on? Nothing's going on. We're, you know, we turn the bullshit switch on and off, you know, when we're on the field, all, all things are copacetic and when we're off the field depends on the day. Yeah, it just depends on the day. So, um, like most

of the time he'll call me cussing me out about like my TikToks or my social media and I literally said the same thing as you is like, you knew what you were getting into when I was on TV and you came in and inserted yourself. I will talk about any aspect of my life so long as I want to. So long as I want to, and you don't care when you're benefiting from it and you didn't care when everything was hunky dory, but now you've got a problem with it. You don't get to pick and choose when I do something. I'm not under your thumb anymore and you don't get to tell me.

Literally got an email from Chris saying not to talk, not to talk about him anymore the other day. I think it was like last week, like a personal cease and desist. And he then posted my response, but didn't post his email to me first. What did it say? He said, stop speaking on me, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, Christopher, I would use my platform to discuss all things pertaining to my life. You knew what you were doing when you had relations and a relationship with me for several years, knowing I was in the public eye. You then created a platform for yourself through me, which includes what is not limited to your social media, your podcast and alleged contract for teen mum too. Therefore, I will

talk about all things that I see fit. I could have gotten to an accident told him about that. I said, I have not addressed you or, or anything about you in some time because there's not been a reason to your most recent podcast episode. You addressed your version of Sunday's events, which was similar to your situation. I used my own podcast to address the same incident. I did not address anything that you didn't already for future references. Feel free to email me directly. If you actually feel bad about not communicating and putting our kids in harm's way. I don't believe your apology is sincere. When it's via podcast, do better regards kill. Like why when they benefit for something or of something or from

something, it's fine. But then when the benefit stops, then they want you to stop. And it's like, no, that's not how, that's not how this works. And then, um, I guess my biggest thing is, is that I would never do something to put Jackson in harm's way. Like adult activities that could potentially put him in harm's way. First of all, my kids don't even really know what drinking is. Yeah. Like they don't know. So like that would piss me off if me and my children got me and my friends got drunk in front of my kid and then something happened to him. Yeah, that's not okay. And I said, you know, it's not, it's not about the fact that do I believe the accident was caused

from drinking? No. But the fact is, is that there was drinking involved. And so that would be just like someone getting in a car out here and driving home from the Mexican restaurant drunk and hitting someone and killing them. It's like their intentions were not to get in the car and kill somebody, but they did, you know, and so to try to explain the importance of why you shouldn't do these things and why you should have foresight and why you shouldn't involve children and adult activities. If you want to do adult activities on your own time, then do it, then do it, but don't involve my child in it. And then to sit back and to know that other people were involved in the cover up and to act like that was all okay.

How do you explain that to Jackson? Like, did you have a conversation with him about that at all? Yeah, because it was, it's been nothing but a lie about the drinking and like that there wasn't drinking involved, but I literally have a video with the alcohol in it in the golf cart. So it's like, you can't sit and say a DUI for driving in golf cart drawing. I have no idea. You can actually because my, my friends, baby, baby dad got one. It's like, that would be a shame to get a DUI driving a golf cart. You know, that's just a horrible thing. But to sit and continue to lie about it. And then you're, what really bothers me is that as parents, we should be positive influences on our children. And when

you are trying to teach a child that is at an age that one, there's so many things going on in his life with the change, but then you're trying to teach them to be honest. And no matter what the situation is, even if it's bad, it's so much better to tell the truth than to tell a lie. But then yet the child knows that you're lying and they have told the truth. It just convolutes everything. That's a good word convolute. Yeah, that's hard. That's really tricky. So then that bothers me more. That bothers the lie bothers me more than right because I will just come to you and said this is what, what it was. You would have been pissed off and upset, but you would have gotten over it because he came directly

to you versus everyone lying and trying to hide it and making it seem like it was not as bad as it actually was. And it's like you and your parents sitting over on a couch that I paid for talking shit about me. Yeah, because of the way that I choose to parent. Well, this is a public service announcement to anyone in his family that is listening, that is reporting back to him. I don't give a fuck what you say. And you don't get to tell me how that how I'm going to parent and what I choose to do. Yeah. It is my son. He came out of my twat cat, my cat and I make the rules. Yeah. No, but this goes back to what we were saying at lunch to like, do you explain things to your kids? You know, and you have

to because otherwise what does he take away from this? It's okay to lie as long as you say sorry leader. Yeah. And there's not even been an apology like the only apology. The only apology has been I should have told you sooner. But I feel like there should be and I guess you can't pick and choose people, people's apologies. But I feel like the apology should have been very different. Yeah, like an acknowledgement is not necessarily an apology. Right. So I just don't know how to really deal with the situation. And for the longest time, I've been so quiet about absolutely everything and been so cordial about everything. And I do feel for the longest time that I've lived quite a lie because I'm still sleeping

with my ex husband. Oh, we're spilling tea today. Yeah, I'm still we're still sleeping together and acting like the only thing that's really changed is the fact that we both have different physical addresses. I mean, so you guys are like together, but not together. People were until the accident. And then I'm like, I'm good. And then after the basketball game, we get here, I was really good. But then you know what? My therapist told me and it was very interesting and I had never thought about it before. She said that you actually, even if you're married to someone, you are still co-parenting when you're not a co-parent. Yeah, I think I heard or read that somewhere else too. Like you're always co-parenting.

Yeah. It's just, I guess whenever you're a married couple, you have more control over what each other does because you're in the same place. Okay. And then when you're separate, right, right, right. That means I'm not seeing everything. I'm not hearing everything. Right. And they develop their own way of doing certain things. Right. Right. Yeah. And it's just annoying that I think for me, the perfect situation would be like, if I went into a situation with the mindset of co-parenting, like we are not together, we are choosing to have a child that would be very different than having a relationship with someone and then splitting up and trying to do it that way. Does that make sense? Yes. But okay.

So then answer this. I said that we technically weren't really, you can't base us, our co-parenting relationship off of what we were doing while we were still sleeping together. I feel like the bigger, the, the better gauge would be when we weren't sleeping together anymore, which has been dysfunctional. Yes. Like when we stopped that, it's dysfunctional and the guys don't get along. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Um, pretty much. So like they're okay, co-parenting, getting along, doing all those things so long as you're sleeping together, but when you're not sleeping together, you're dropping the ball. Yeah. But you don't get to have it like that. You don't, you don't get to choose to be apart from each other, to be living

at different addresses, to be living separate lives, but to really be living together. Right. But like not together. It's a very good thing. So like what's the status now? And then everyone, I guess on his side of the family thinks that. You guys are not together, not sleeping together, not nothing, but in reality you are. Like probably like he hates me. Like basically all of me are living in two separate houses, two separate houses. Yeah. Sounds about right. So I don't really know how to navigate that. And I wonder, you're asking the wrong one. I'm not the one to ask. I'm not the one to ask. I, I guess I would probably pose this as a listener question. Like have you found yourself in the same situation and how do

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Yeah, maybe dads do it to me too. No, thank you. Yeah. If I don't talk about it on the podcast, I can talk about it on T-MOM. So please try again or I'll write about it in a book. So... And it's not that you're trying to be out here to out someone, but when you feel like you've been pushed and pushed and pushed against a wall, I also don't want to live a lie and I don't have a reason to live a lie because nothing I do I feel is necessarily wrong. Like me choosing to sleep with him is not wrong. Being the bigger person is not for anybody else, it's for you. Like just to say, oh,

I was the bigger person. Oh, I could do this. Oh, I have this on them. Oh, you know what I mean? And it doesn't really get you anywhere. And I also don't perceive having a conversation about it to be messy. I feel it to be honest. Perception. Perception. I always liked Will. But I could only go based on how he treated me. You know what I mean? Like I can't I can't say like, oh, fuck him because he was nice to me. Yeah, I only can be there for you and support you and... And Will, the crazy thing is... Javi is just like texting me about football. Like if I'm not working as if I don't have

a job. Your job is football. My job is football. They asked me to be on the board and that's fun. That's great. But like... Tell me more. This is all of Javi's texts. And as you can see, I'm not responding. I have not responded. What is happening on that? So like he gets like a question and then he keeps going. So it's just...

And now it's merch. Now it's... Yeah. It's like, what is happening on those texts? Javi is just... We just love... I don't think either one of us imagined doing this for like football. Like I don't think that either of us... Do you think that you ever imagined being able to successfully do what you're doing with Lincoln together without having issues?

No. And it's kind of scary because I know how good it is when, you know, things are happening, but like he has another son and eventually going to be doing the same thing with him, with somebody else. And so how is that going to... When they're both in things all the time, how is that going to affect our co-parenting? Because I mean, I hate to say it, but like Joe's not actively involved in the same ways that Javi is and neither is Chris. Chris might show up, Chris might be there, but he's not actively participating. And so it's very different where like Javi and I are knees deep in whatever Lincoln is doing. And so how is that going to like affect the scenario,

the situation? Do you feel like you'll feel a type of way if he's doing that with someone else? No, I just don't want it, like I don't want it to be an argument. Like I don't want it to be get in the way because it works so well right now. Like I don't want it to be... It's hard because when you have multiple children and you're having to split your time, you know, I guess he's not having to split his time yet. Not yet. And when he does, I guess that'll be...

But that time is coming. That'll be telling. Does the other child do sports and actively... There's only three, so I don't really know what all he does. But like for example, whenever Lincoln's in football and Javi's a coach and I'm the team parent and Lux is playing at the same time, I was the team parent over there, but the coach was not my ex-husband. And so my responsibilities were very different versus like Javi being my ex-husband, we're willing to do more and put more effort and more time into it because it's the both of us and we have the resources, but it might be different for...

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it would just be... I would do my team mom duties for Lux's team, but then run right over to Lincoln's game because there's more of a responsibility there. Right. But I guess time will tell. We'll see.

I couldn't imagine at this point after the situation that happened at basketball ever being able to be in a situation where I could trust to have the relationship that you have with Javi to do what you guys are doing, to do with Will because I feel like it's such a lie. Does that make sense? Like... So do you think that what Javi and I are doing is a lie? No.

Because I kind of... I mean... Do you feel like it's a lie? No. No. I mean, we had this one camp, this one football camp, and I want to say it was August, maybe. I mean, he smooth-cussed me out before we walked in those doors to the camp. And as soon as we walked in the doors, we acted like everything was fine.

So is that a lie or is that learning how to leave personal ship behind and then come together for Lincoln? Is it a lie or is it not? Do you guys get along outside of the football scenario? Sometimes. When he cusses me out about my podcast or something I post on Instagram, I literally laugh at him. Like, I don't entertain it.

Like, how are you going to cuss somebody out about that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like, I would never call someone and cuss them out about this. I would don't care. Like, you're a bitter-beddy, salty-sally, like, talking... Okay, so fuck Mary Kill, my baby daddies.

Oh, wow. That was abrupt. But let's hear it. Kristen, this one was for you. She told me she was going to ask you. Okay, so, wow, I've just really got put on the spot. Yeah, and they're filming. So...

Well, say fuck Mary Herras, because I feel like Kill is kind of aggressive. Aggressive, yeah. And MTV might take it as a threat, so. I think I would Mary Harvey. Yikes. Okay. So, there's no way to, like, do this nicely. You know what I mean?

Like, there's, like... Yeah, there's no way to do this nicely. At all. Like, none of them are... Like, I would... They say, like, when you get married, your sex life goes to shit. So, maybe the one that you want to have sex that you would not want to touch with a ten-foot pole, maybe marry that.

You know what I mean? Then if that's the scenario, then I would marry Joe. Same. Ew. Ew. Okay. And then I'm going to harass Chris. Okay.

And you're going to fuck Harvey? No, switch them. But what if I don't want to pick, like, sleep with none of them? But that's not allowed, right? Like, you have to choose it. Yeah. And I guess, Harvey. You're going to sleep with Harvey?

Yeah, I guess. And you're going to harass Chris. Yeah. I'm going to harass Chris. But you already harassed Harvey. Yeah. And so, are you saying that I should pick harass Harvey because I already do? Yes.

I feel like I would want to harass Chris. Okay. Okay, deal. All right, fine. And I don't have enough for you to play that game with me. Okay. Okay, let's hear it. Is it bad?

It is on your side. It is on my side? Yeah. Okay, go ahead. You can't do that, that's incestuous. You can't do that. You can't do that. I can't answer that question.

Like, I could do that one. Yeah, you answer it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. You have two brothers? I have three brothers. Oh, that's right.

I forgot. Yeah. Or do you want to air this or no? Yeah. Okay. I mean. I'm married, Todd. Okay.

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You're not doing any of that. And I'm absolutely marrying post Malone. Like that is the type of energy why would you ask you every fucking day? Why would you marry him? Because I want to be, I want him to like, I just feel like he's good vibes. He's good energy. And he also has brand deals with every single company that he's ever touched upon. So he has massive amounts of money.

But what's wrong with Justin? I just, like why wouldn't we marry him? First of all, I would not fuck any of them. But that's appalling. That's appalling. Two would be like tops for me. Two. Two of them would be like top notch for me.

No, I'm marrying post Malone and fucking Justin Bieber. Okay. JB. Where are you at? JB. If you listen to Coffee Compass podcast, hit us up. Okay. Okay.

Um, we are going to marry Drake. Yes. We are going to marry Drake. We're going to sleep with Eminem. We're sleeping with Eminem and we're harassing, what was the third one? Little Wayne. Oh yeah. I don't care about him.

Okay. Okay. This is going to make headlines. Who's Taylor McKinney? Oh wow. Are we going to get shit for this one? We're going to be shit starting. No.

I mean, it's just a listener question. Okay. It's a game. So we got Devoyne, Taylor and two Corey, Corey, okay. We're going to, no, yeah, I'm not interested even remotely. I mean, I'm not interested in any of them, but like, okay, we are, this is a joint effort marrying Taylor. Taylor.

Okay. Family man, cool. Yeah. We are harassing Devoyne. We're not harassing Devoyne. I mean, we're not, but like we are in this game. I think just not shit start, we are, we are harassing Devoyne, but like probably not. Okay.

And then we're fucking Corey. I also just like don't want to say that. I feel like that's like, I don't, like I wouldn't. It's all a scam and a bamboozle, but like we're playing this game. Okay. Like it's literally a game. Right. Okay.

Oh my God, oh my God, no, that's like the biggest bamboozle of all. Oh my God. Okay. Like, like whoever did this to us, like whatever listeners. I just like forgot about those people. Like why are we, they did not forget about them. Okay. So what is the people?

Okay. We are harassing David Easton. We're harassing David Easton. Period. Ryan Edwards, um, he probably, we're, we're gonna, we're, we're gonna sleep with him. We are in this scenario and Gary, we're just going to, we're going to marry him because I heard he can cook. So that's, do we feel like I picked right?

I feel like you did. You did a great job. You did a phenomenal job. Why didn't you answer? I'm with you all the way on that one. I don't think there was a better scenario for that. Okay. So that's all there is for that.

Yeah. One more, not teen mom related, please. No, please. It's funny. There's all, we did all of the guys. There's that we just named six out of what 10 left. Oh wait, I have to, there's like 13. They went into production.

Wait, read them, but I won't answer. Who? Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That's easy. Okay.

Okay. We're harassing Dr. Drew. No. Oh, we're not. We're marrying him. We're marrying him. We're marrying Dr. Drew, but he's like a good looking guy. He's stable and he's good looking.

So I would want to look at him and not fuck him because when you marry someone, there's no sex. Remember? Right. Yeah. Okay. Um, Nessa. We're going to harass her.

MTV is going to fire me if I say, we're going to harass her. I thought we weren't answering this one. We're harassing Nessa. No, I'm fucking Nessa. Am I getting fired? And am I? Or not? Who is the last?

Oh, Patrick. Patrick. I'm marrying Patrick. Okay. So. No, I harassed him. I'm harassing him. I married him.

I married him. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm marrying Patrick. Patrick is the energy that I need in my life on a regular basis.

Yes. Okay, good. It's so funny. Oh, God. Oh, God, I am marrying Nicolas. Hey, I'm marrying. I'm fucking Bow Wow. I'm, wait.

Oh, so you can't wait. So you if you marry them, that's no sleep. Well, I'm just thinking like when I married Hobby, I stopped having sex with him. Okay. band on that? Um, it just, yeah, I, it was like, I always had a headache or stomach ache or diarrhea or something. You know what I mean?

No, yeah, tell me more. I just lost interest. I had, what is it? Low libido, like no, no. So do you feel like it's because you got married, then you became not interested? No, I think I got married too young and I didn't really know myself or who I, like who I was outside of the marriage and then also who I was in the marriage. And so then we had all these problems in the marriage and I no longer wanted to have

sex with him while we were married. Fair. You know, yeah, but I feel like a lot of people probably go through that. Yeah. I think, and I'm not, again, I've said this before and I'm not saying that I would get back with him now. I think had we gotten married now, it would be very different. So that's, I say that all the time when you're, I was 19 when I got married.

So if I was, I wasn't 21, I was 20, if I was 32 and got married today, I think the circumstances would have been totally different. The life experience would have obviously been totally different. Um, and the requirements would have looked very different and priorities really in general, for sure, very different. So wait, what's the one? Bow Wow, Aaron Carter and. Okay.

We're going to hear Aaron Carter. I feel like we're going to do what we're going to harass him. Yep. Okay. And then we are going to marry Nick Lachey, marry him. And we're going to fuck Bow Wow. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. I don't even know who Kim K's exes are. I do. You do. Yeah. Ready to say Reggie Bush. Okay, these are, this is a great one. Um, I'm going to, what does Reggie Bush look like?

I don't even know. Is he hot? Yeah. So are we fucking him or are we marrying him? Yeah, we're going to sleep with him. We're going to sleep with him. We're going to kill off Chris and we're going to marry. Kind of.

Yeah. We're going to kill off Chris and we're going to marry him. Yeah. Okay, I'm with you on that one. Yeah, that was a good one. Chris gets killed off. Oh, are we fucking him or we're marrying him? No, we're, we're sleeping with him. Is he retired and his daughter looks like his, his daughter and his, did he have a

daughter when he was with Kim? No, so his fine, either a girlfriend or wife looks just like him. And the daughter is very similar looking to North. It's a wild, we could go down a big rabbit hole on this. Okay. We're not, but we could. We're not going to see what we could. We could.

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We were working. We were working, we were podcasting. Podcasting or asses off. Yes, and doing some things, rebranding and all the things. So there we are. I got lots of texts that week. That was, that was an eventful week though. Like I wasn't even there, but I got like the overs.

Like the- Did people think it was you on the ambulance? Where was the ambulance? Who was on an ambulance? Did you see it? When does it come out? Someone was on an ambulance. I'm excited to watch it.

I think it'll be a good time. I filmed Marriage Boot Camp, which I think was a very similar style. And Marriage Boot Camp was long, long, long, long, 12 hour days, sometimes more than that. And so for me, it was just a hard pass. Like tell me about Marriage Boot Camp, because I don't know, we probably have talked about it, but I forgot. I think I was on season nine-ish with Hobby. But do you think it was helpful?

So hear me out. The actual exercises that we did at Marriage Boot Camp were very, I could see why they would be, they would work in, in, in addition to regular counseling and therapy. Like if both parties in the relationship want to make it work, I definitely think that they could be helpful and useful. But when you do them one time and you're done, it's not conducive to making your relationship.

It's like people going to therapy one time and being like, I don't believe in the process. Yeah. So like I definitely, I and I understand some of the drills. Like for example, there was one where Hobby and I had to, we did this thing called the blame game, right? So like in a relationship, you are constantly blaming each other for certain things, right?

But at the end of the day, because you're both either taking or receiving the blame, you both have to deal with that issue. And then later on that same, those same balls that we passed back and forth, which was the blame, we both had to carry up a hill. Oh, wow. Because it was a representation of, we are both suffering from this same issue no matter who's at fault. It's how you work through it.

And so I was like, okay, wow, like when you do an exercise like that, it puts things into perspective. And so I could see why family reunion, the teen mom family reunion could be helpful and beneficial. But I mean, overall, I mean, Wait, I don't even know what the premise is. I don't, I really don't either. I, I said that we should put everyone in the house.

We said that on coffee combos. And then do exercises and therapy and things like that. And actually had a meeting with two of the producers and I did not get a credit whatsoever. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it's kind of bullshit. I was asked to be on family or marriage boot camp family edition or whatever.

I mean, obviously I wasn't on it, but I knew it. I mean, for lots of reasons, but yeah, I was asked to be on that. I was like, yeah, no. And you know what? I always laugh at all the time. What? Is I see the gift or jiff, whatever it is.

The jiff? Of Javi, like dead. Oh, that was horrible. I was so confused by that and then I didn't understand. Oh my God. Yeah, it was a little traumatizing. So why did Javi look like that? Was, did they like make up him to make him look like that?

Not dead. Split the house into alphas and betas. What were you? Alpha. I knew it. Yeah. So I was in the alphas room and we had. So was Javi also in the alpha room?

No. So if you're a couple, you can't go to the alphas. So I split the couples into alphas and betas and I was in the alpha and he was in the beta and they did all the betas like on their deathbeds. But like it was so fucked up because I was pretty sure I was the first one to walk into and everyone was so confused. Like what is going on? And it was in like a dark room.

I was so confused and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. Like I didn't know what was going on. We had written letters like say the worst things that you could ever say about somebody, about your partner, write them down. We didn't know why we were doing this. They had to shred them. So we thought it was like a writing exercise where we could say everything that we wanted to say and be done with it and get rid of it.

Like usually when I write, like when I write my books and stuff, like I never think about that shit ever again. No, it was a lie. And we had to go read these horrible letters to them while they're on their deathbeds. Yeah, it was traumatizing. What did you say? I told him I never wanted, I'd link him to be like him. And he was like controlling and I can't really remember like what else.

Do you still feel that same way now? I definitely still think he has like a controlling thing that a lot of people don't know about. And there's a lot of hypocrisy that goes on. And I kept my mouth shut for a lot of things, but a lot of the stuff that we went through, like when we filmed for Teen Mom and he was calling me a cheater and all of these things, when we took lie detector tests, which was the most intense thing I've ever done in my entire life, he failed and I passed. And I knew at that time I was like, okay, if I keep my mouth shut long enough,

the truth will come out and it did. So I felt good about that. What did you guys say on the lie detector test? Like what do they ask? Have you ever slept with other people while married and stuff like that? But I shit myself when they're like is today Tuesday. Wait, you really shit yourself? No, I mean, I almost did.

But I was like so nervous. Nervous, yeah. But because you don't want to fuck up and you can't say like, when you watch like crime shows and shit and they're like asking questions, you can only say yes or no. It's not like, you can't say like maybe or I don't know or whatever. It's yes or no.

So when they're like doing all these preliminary questions to like get a gauge on your heart and in your stress levels and stuff, and they were like, I'm pretty sure they asked me is today Tuesday. And I literally almost shit myself when I was like, yes, like I didn't know. Like I didn't want it to say that I was lying because I was pretty sure it was fucking Tuesday. Yeah. So yeah, it was super intense. And I would never, if you don't ever have to take a lie detector test,

lie detector test, don't fucking do it. But I heard that they weren't always accurate. I mean, do you feel like that they can be, like you can bamboozle a lie detector test? If you're a fucking super human, super human, yeah. We should do it. And like, we should do it. Yeah.

That would, I remember when I was with Chris, he used to want me to take one and that's like a narcissistic thing. Like a lot of narcissists will, yeah. Because they think they can beat it. Yeah. So that was like a thing. So he wanted to take a lie detector test? He wanted me to take one.

Like if I took one, he would take one. And he thought he could beat it. Yeah. He wanted to catch me in a lie and then he thought he could beat it. Tell me more about that. So I actually called this place. This was like in the knees deep of our toxic relationship. I like called this place is like 475.

And I was like, I'm not paying 475 per person to do a fucking lie detector test. I'm not paying 475 to hear you lie. Right. Like I already listen to that for free. I can just go through your phone and get that shit for free. Yeah. But yeah. No, we could do one for like fun.

Yeah. I think that would be really fun. It's terrifying. So I think it's, you know, it would be terrifying. It's just, are you like hooked up? Yeah. They like put the shit around your like your waist and you can't move. Like you have to like be and you like, you can't tap your feet.

You can't like jiggle your arms. Like you can't move your head. It's like very like you put your, I forget if it's both hands or one hand and then you put one in your lap and you have to like say, yes or no and like be very specific. And there have to be very specific questions. They can't be like generic questions. So that's like not, you're not going to get an accurate reading.

Kaelin. What? We should do it. Okay. Let's hire someone today. What kind of question? I'm not paying 475. I'm not paying exchange for tax.

Yeah. Like not paying for anything. What kind of questions? What would we ask it? Like I don't really have a reason to lie about anything. Me neither. I'll just tell you the truth. I have no secrets right now.

Like the ugly truth. Yeah. Like it's never pretty at this point. It sucks that they're not admissible admissible in court though. Cause I feel like- What does that, what do you mean? Lie detector tests are not admissible in court. They're not?

No. Wait, are you sure? So like I don't understand why they ever like- Why, why do they use them then? I guess to gauge to like poke holes in someone's character maybe. I guess, yeah. Like to, for doubt. Like I guess you could like present it maybe,

but like I don't think that it could be like the deciding factor. That's so interesting. Yeah. It's not weird. Yeah, it's really weird. So wait, tell me what you and the fam are doing for Christmas. You have your kids or you don't? No, I gave up Christmas.

You gave, oh that's right. So like they're gone every Christmas. I haven't done Christmas in four years. Do you not like hate it though? I'm a Grinch. I don't like Christmas. But I'm supposed to be moving into the new house. So my thought was, and I think I've said this before,

my thought was send them to their dads, move in. However, when I say move in, I mean put the clothes in the house because nothing from the old house is going to the new house. Right. Yeah. And I actually got an email yesterday saying the house is 77% complete. So I'm hoping and supposedly they're working on it all week while we're here. Do you feel like it's going to be done on the new time?

Let me go look at the calendar. I don't know. I think it could get done in time for Christmas because that's still two and a half weeks away. So I do think that there is a good chance. If not Christmas, I would say like winter break. Like before they go back to school in January, I think it could be done for like that week.

But wait, so you explain the Christmas thing. You don't ever have your kids at Christmas. You all don't do gifts. You don't do a tree. You don't do anything like it just does not exist. Does not exist for me. I haven't done Christmas in four years. I feel like I'm going to be in a deep dark depression next year

when I don't have Jackson for Christmas. I think once I move into the new house, I think I'm going to do holidays on different days. I love that idea. Like I think people have written in to me enough to convince me to do it on different days. I don't know about the gifts thing for Christmas though. The gifts thing is a little weird for me

just because my kids get everything they need and want all year long. And I do a really, really expensive vacation every year. So like I don't know about the gifts thing, but we might do like trees and cookies and things like that on like a separate day. I might be down. I was talking about like gift giving and stuff on

Southern Tea this week. And like would you rather get a gift from someone or an experience? An experience. Me too. Wholeheartedly. That's why I asked the kids, they said, would you rather have Christmas or vacation

and they all said vacation? I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. Like what do you say? Thank you. I think about baby. Like I didn't want to have a baby shower for the pure fact of having to open gifts in front of people.

No, you don't open gifts at a party. You open them at home. Yeah, but like what is the standard? Because I don't feel like that has always been the standard. Like I feel like it became a thing. It became a thing. Nobody wants to watch someone else open gifts. Like when you were a kid, didn't you open presents

like at your party? And you'd be like, thank you so much for the Barbie. Or like thank you for the birthday parties. Thank you for the hello kitty, like whatever. Thank you for the Lisa Frank folder. Like, right? And it's so weird. Yeah, it's like a weird thing.

It's like, oh my god, you're so pretty. What do you say? Thank you. Thank you. Like you're pretty too. Yeah, so you agree. You agree. You think I'm really pretty.

Yeah, I think you're really pretty. Okay, so I guess that's it. Are we going to take naps? Or like, what are we going to do? Yeah, we're going to take a nap and then make some TikToks when we wake up. Okay, that sounds good. Kale's going to teach me how to TikTok.

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