Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 196: An Impromptu Movie Review, More To Be Said, and Crime News
Episode Date: December 16, 2021On this week's episode of Coffee Convos, Kail and Lindsie start off with an impromptu movie review after both of them randomly watched Netflix's The Unforgivable over the weekend. Having both really ...enjoyed the film they talk about the twists in the story, themes throughout, and the reality of certain issues highlighted in the story. This one is not spoiler free so if you want to keep the plot a mystery definitely skip ahead! Then Lindsie gives updates about her current situation with co-parenting, her relationship with her ex, and how they are moving forward. Having learned more about the incident, Lindsie has more to say about how it was handled. Plus Kail gives Lindsie some updates on some true crimes news, including Scott Peterson's resentencing and the developments with Brian Laundrie's parents. This episode was sponsored by: Ring, Ana Luisa & The Pill Club Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.
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Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of
Can you hear me I can hear you good morning
Good morning. I am okay. You might hear me chewing because when you joined I was you know what high chew is
What do you know what high chew is? No, what is that? Oh, like like
They're kind of like starbursts. Yes, and I'm I can't stop eating them. So anyways, um, how are you on this fine Monday?
Yeah, oh on this fine Monday. I woke up bright and early
I have a funny story over the past two days that I want to tell you that I've gone to sleep so early kill like
It's almost borderline embarrassing which leads me to ask
You what you feel is like an acceptable normal bed time that you feel well rested
But then I want to know from our listeners what time they go to bed and what time they get up
Because I feel so good the past two days
Went to bed at 9 30 the night before and was in bed by 10 asleep last night. I
I go to sleep as soon as my kids put a bed
So like when I'm tucking my kids to bed at 8 39 o'clock, I'm also getting in bed
9 times out of 10. I do not watch TV. Like I
Sometimes I don't even have it on
I'm just so exhausted like I'm tired. So I think that I
Had originally decided that I wasn't going to have a TV in my room
However, I just like being in my room
I don't know if you feel like this like once it's time for bedtime once I've showered and everything
I just want to be in my bed
And so I feel like to watch all the Netflix shows and like all of the stuff on streams
I almost feel like it's necessary
For work for me to have a TV in my room as much as I don't want one in here
But what other time would I be watching it? Right, right, right, right. I will say that while I didn't have my kids this weekend
I watched I watched a lot of Netflix because I also put my dogs on the kennel
Just to have like a break and have time to myself
and I did watch a lot of Netflix but
In bed by 9 doing my own thing
Weekends without the kids. I'll watch TV because one else when I yeah
Yeah, we can pull the the nighttime bedtime thing
But then this is going to be a funny elf on the shelf like little blip
So if you have little ears that are listening
probably like
Pause this for two minutes or fast forward for two minutes and then start back
But the past two nights because I fell asleep so early
I didn't get to do elf on the shelf at night and so when I took the dog out at like four o'clock in the morning
I was rushing around to do elf on the shelf and I had like my first what I would consider like full elf on the shelf
Fail I got some candlesticks that were not being used and I put
The elf on it as if it was like riding on the candlestick, but it literally looked like it's wiener like in the oh, no
Jackson was like mom Elfie Elfie's on the candlestick and I'm like oh my god
When I looked at it in the morning time when it wasn't four o'clock in the morning and it was foggy
I was like oh my god, like I have probably traumatized him at this point and then
Last night the dog woke up at like five o'clock
So I let her out and I was like shit. I have to do the elf on the shelf again
So I just had some shoes left over from our trip like laying in the floor and I was like cool
It's gonna be a shoe shoe train. So like I just put the elf in the shoe shoe train and
called it a day I
Could never keep up with elf on the shelf, but I will tell you that
the other day stopped by Javi's house to see Lincoln when we got back from our trip and
and I went over there to drop something off yesterday and
The elf was still in the same spot as Friday. Oh my god, so he didn't move it
So I texted him last night like both after I saw that it was in the same spot and I said I
Said hold on he like got us an attitude back. It was kind of funny. Um, where is it?
Man, I got a search. Yeah, thank god for iPhones and like the little search thing where you can search like, you know, you have this conversation
Okay, I said did you move the elf and he sent me a picture and circled it and said thank you for your concern and then
It wasn't creative. It was so stupid
He put it in the cap like first it was hanging off the TV and then it was
Now it's in a mug and I'm like, I literally texted him back and I'm like, Javi, you can do better
And Javi in his mind. He's probably like, okay, Kale, you're not doing it at all. So like I told him to do what you showed me that you were gonna do to Jackson
Oh
I can't wait. I'm not saying what we're gonna do, but it's gonna be so funny. I can't wait. I'm not saying what we're gonna do
But it's gonna be so funny. I would love to see people's elf on the shelf fails
Because literally when I saw that and clear sight when I woke up and turned around the corner and just saw like Elphie
Sitting with this like large candlestick between his legs. I was like, okay. Yeah, like I really botched
this elf job so
Anyhow, I am so excited that we both watched the same
Netflix show or Netflix
And we didn't even talk about it. Yes. Okay. So we both watched this is a
A spoiler alert. So if you guys have not watched
Unforgivable on Netflix with Sandra Bullock, this is your time to again either fast forward or come back to this episode after you have watched it
Unforgivable it was just kind of like on a whim because I really don't like I said, I don't want to TV a whole lot but
Um, I was like it was new and so I turned it on and when I tell you that I ugly cried so fucking hard. I
Could not believe how hard I cried for this and it I didn't even really relate to the movie necessarily
So I was just like
It was just very different and expect the ending at all
Well, so for those of you who have not watched and would be interested
We both watched it on Netflix and it was about this woman named Ruth
Who was released from prison after serving a sentence for a violent crime?
and then she attempts to re-enter society and she
Basically is trying to put her life back together again
in a world that refuses to forgive her past and
There were just a ton of different themes. I felt like that we're going on
On
The movie alone that
I feel would be relatable to so many different people
Life after prison is one of those things not that probably a lot of people who are listening to this went to prison, but
um
I think that
Is something that is just not really talked about and how hard it is for people
And you've talked about it a little bit about how the system is pretty messed up that
You incarcerate folks and then expect them to be able
to just live a normal life once they're released and
I think this movie definitely speaks on how hard it is
um to kind of get back in the fold of things and to create
a normal
She was there for 20 years, right?
She was in there for 20 years. Um
And her like parole officer or um probation. I'm not sure I I feel like he called her parolee
That's my parolee. So I think that he was her parole officer
um, he told her how hard it was going to be and that she won she cannot
not
First of all as a felon you're already kind of limited in your jobs, right?
But then on top of it as a felon you cannot
Be friends with other felons at least for her during this short like I would think short period like while she's on parole
She can't be friend other felons. So
But think about the fact that her jobs are limited
So when other felons get out of prison their jobs are also probably
Slim pickings as well and they're not allowed to they're not supposed to be friends. So that's part of it and then explaining what you did
You know what I mean? If you have to be real and upfront
you have to
Understand that people might not want to hire you or whatever that looks like and so she was already going through it
But the ending had me fucked up all sort to fucked up
well, so other
themes that
I picked up on in the movie was just like
how
she was really
Trying to like this redemption and
no matter what
What she did it wasn't it wasn't a situation that she was going to be able to really
recover from
um, and then the family bonds was
something and I think that probably more
More people would relate to this even in situations of like adoption
um
There was a lot of things that I felt at first when I started watching the movie. I thought that the little girl was her daughter
I also did and I was I knew that there was more to the story
I just didn't know what the story was like I thought okay. There's a reason why
This young woman is in a house with this little girl. There's a reason why
they're being um
Like evicted again, I guess or like the house was being foreclosed on there was more to the story
I just didn't know what it was
And so then when you get to the end of it, you're just like oh wow
But I wish they would have ended it a little bit differently like I feel like ending it with a hug. It's just not
And also the the fight between the adoptive parents and um
Um not katie. What is her name Ruth?
Um
Ruth yes, I
I think that that could have been like a little bit better
Because I feel like as an adoptive set of parents like well, let me not speak on that because I feel like I get ahead of myself
And I say well, this is what I would do. Um
They didn't even give her nobody throughout this entire movie gave her a chance to explain herself
But even I guess when she could explain herself. What was she gonna do blame?
Another person for what she did
well
The thing is is I think what a lot of people did not
pick up on was that
Ruth was trying to protect her little sister kathryn. Yeah the entire time and so
So
Catherine was actually the one who shot the officer and Ruth
Was the one that was covering for her and so
I kept
Feeling like if I was in
that situation
I probably would have done the same thing, but then I was thinking okay. Is this realistic like
Would would the little girl have been charged if
If
She shot the officer, you know what I'm saying like was she old enough would she have gone to like juvenile?
How old was she she was five?
Remember when she's talking to the lawyer's wife and she's like she was only five years old
Yeah, yeah five
And so I just think
The whole movie it's it's a movie that I think that
anyone who
Wants to be intrigued or
Feel like you have nothing to do and you want a good watch. I would highly recommend it
I was a bit disappointed though that it actually did not get good
reviews
I know I saw that it didn't have good review. I was
seven out of ten on imdb and 40
It was a 40 percent on rotten tomatoes and a 41 percent on metacritic. So
It's not really great reviews. I love anything with sander bullock in it though. I do too. I don't care. I love her so
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If you guys hear a psychopath, it's georgia in the background
Oh, we don't hear
Acting crazy. She has been so bad. I think she's going through a growth spurt and when I tell you she has just been
So bad. It's like a child. I don't know if anyone's ever so I feel like that's to be expected
But were your puppies like that?
Um, my one puppy right now is still like that and he is about to be one
Does he just disobey all the time? He's an asshole and I love him, but he's an asshole
She wants to be with me 24 seven and like
Even when Jackson sometimes if we'll be snuggling in the bed in the morning on a weekend or something
Um, Jackson will come and try to get in the bed with us and she is definitely like this is my mom
You need to scoot over. Um, don't be rubbing up on her. She's very much like that
Oh, that's kind of sweet though. Um, I also watched on netflix. I watched bruise with Halle Berry
Was it good?
Um, I liked it, but I personally love fighting movies. Like that's just like my thing
Um, and hers was also kind of like down on her luck
um
I
Don't understand like the whole mom giving child up and just kind of like leaving with the father. Yeah
Halle Berry plays this fighting character where she's known as Jackie justice and she is you know, an undefeated champion
She goes to fight and she's not ready for it. She loses and then from that point forward
She's kind of down on her luck, but prior to all of that
she she had a child and left the child with the father and like
Doesn't see him again until the child shows up on her doorstep
And then she has like this like lesbian affair with her one coach
And but then she said she's not ready for a relationship and then she fights again and she loses it was
It was good. It was really good. I think Halle Berry like killed the role like she did such a good job with the role
um
Worth watching. Um, I also watched coming out colton. Did you see have you heard of that?
Is that
Is that colton from the bachelor? Yes
Um, I heard about it, but I have not seen it. I did just see news that
his ex fiance
Felt kind of like retraumatized from the whole thing
Again by that coming out. Um, but that's all I've seen about it. Haven't heard any
Anything about the show or anything? Is it a show a docu series? What is it? It's a docu series about
his um his life and
And he was on the bachelor. He was in the nfl and then coming out as gay
Um, and prior to that, you know, his last relationship was with someone from the bachelor
Um
And he did like I guess right before they broke up. He had put like a tracking device on her car
Yep. Oh, um, she filed a restraining order for that. Um, like, you know stalking
I
Have to say this it's a little heavy. Um, but if you didn't read my book pride over pity
Something very similar
To that happened to me. Um, when I was 19, I was actually raped by someone and
He proceeded to stalk me after that and then came out as gay in 2017
I I guess, um
Um, I I was following the news of the that bachelor stuff in real time
and
Maybe I'm just like not understanding
But if you are gay, why are you stalking your ex-girlfriend like that? Oh, he says
And I think this to be true for the person that did it to me. Um, he says that
She Cassie was
He wanted to be straight so bad. Like he want he basically wanted prayed every day about
Not being gay. He didn't want to be gay. He was suppressing it. He has internalized homophobia his whole life. He was, you know,
Not okay with being gay, but he's known since he was six years old
He said that Cassie was the one person that he feels like he could have been straight for
And he was not prepared to do like basically
without her
he would have to face
the music and look in the mirror and and and
Basically
Admit that he was gay live that he was like live his true self and he wasn't prepared for that
And so he actually it's like a blessing in disguise for him because at this point he says like
when she filed that restraining order, it was
It was the worst thing that could have happened
But for him, it was the best thing that could have happened because he knew in that moment
That was the last straight relationship that he would ever be in so that he could move forward and really
Be his true authentic self now. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's right by any means
He should not have stalked her like obviously that's traumatizing and
Um, but when you look look at the whole story like he hated himself
And he even was having a hard time after he came out with like internalized homophobia
Um, especially as a gay professional athlete
And so, you know, and then his pastor basically tells him that he's a sinner and like this isn't okay
um, but then there are other christians who
Have his back and support him and I don't know it's
Heartbreaking for cassie. It's heartbreaking for colton. It's the whole thing is heartbreaking that we're still shaming people for being
Homosexual or anything other than anything other than heterosexual heterosexual because at the end of the day we're all
We all
Make fucking mistakes and sin
Um, so why are anyone sins better than anyone else is they're not?
um, and I don't know like someone's sexuality doesn't
Make them a bad person and it also isn't hurting anyone else
So I don't fully understand that but there is a a couple episodes where he meets up with other professional
Athletes who have come out of the closet
And I loved that. Um, I felt like that
Really opened my eyes to like
The whole thing just opens your eyes to how
society
Treats
Gay men or just
Like anyone who's not heterosexual in general. So it was just like a really good eye opening
to IQ series. Um, I think he got so much flak
um for
One coming out because people
wanted to
Basically say he was using that as a cop out for what he did to cassie. Oh, nobody's nobody's
Nobody's pretending to be gay like
Yeah, or
To say oh, I'm gay and that's why I stalked her like no one is ever gonna just say they're gay
Just to say they're like to cover up something else. I don't think that's what it is
I genuinely think that he struggled with this and honestly like I've been where Cassie's at
um, and and so for that I can completely understand the trauma the trauma there and my heart goes out to her
um
But hopefully this docuseries that Colton did will open other people's eyes so that things like that don't continue to happen
Do you get what I'm saying like?
I you guys have to watch it. It's um
And I hope that people who are homophobic watch it and understand and see like
At six years old, you're not choosing to be gay. Like you don't choose to be gay. You don't that's not something that you're choosing
That's not something like this man has gone until he's 29 years old
Suppressing his sexuality and who he really is and hating himself truly hating himself and hoping that one day he would wake up straight
You don't you don't you don't put yourself through that that's not something that you choose
So I just I hope that people watch it and just it becomes an eye-opener for so many things
It's so sad and then also um
I could imagine him probably feeling like he was between a rock and a hard place and just feeling like he was losing control of
absolutely everything so sometimes
When you feel pushed against a wall you'll make decisions that you wouldn't normally make and a
sound state of mind and so
not to justify
Why there would be a tracker on someone's car or like stalking or whatever but
I could imagine that he was probably his feelings were probably very much spiraling out of control
Well, he's he told his dad in one of the scenes
Um, his dad said would you be married to Cassie had she said yes?
And Colton said yes, so he would and and then his dad was like and what lived your life unhappily and and miserable and Colton said yes
Like he thought that he was going to the grave with the secret of being gay. Could you imagine living your entire life?
Not living
Happy and loving whoever you want to love like I can't imagine what that feels like and I can't imagine what that would be
Imagine what that would like where that?
um
How that would manifest itself in other ways?
i.e.
The Cassie and the stalking again absolutely not justifying it just saying you can understand how that manifested
Through everything that that transpired for sure
For sure. Um
I feel like um
Stop it, Georgia. I feel like that a lot of people are gonna sit and say
Oh, well, you know, why did he go on the bachelor with all of those girls and um,
Here comes the word bamboozle them and make them think one thing
and
The reality be something else, but I also think that that was just part of the process for him
Unfortunately, yeah, I I agree. It's it sucks, but hopefully
Hopefully Cassie will be able to move on in a healthy way and you know
Do whatever she needs to get through this because I can
See why that this would all be traumatic and I hope that colton's able to move on as well because
Which is unfortunate
I did want to
Talk about what's been going on since I left
I literally left the airbnb from you
um, I pulled out team mom cameras were rolling as I was pulling out
I was on the phone with my therapist and um
chatting through kind of everything that
Has transpired and um, if you guys follow me on instagram, you know that I've been pretty active in my stories and
sharing things
Um for the longest time
I feel like
I wasn't silencing myself, but for the longest time. I feel like
I was trying to keep everything
so cordial and
a level of control
um
And you've probably felt this way
Many of times in different situations before too
But I kind of felt like you know, I'll take the high road as long as you take the high road and
Let's see where that gets us and truly
um
In my situation we were we were able in my opinion to be amicable for
so long um
For a lot longer than what I think other people who have been going through divorce or have been through a divorce and co-parenting
We're able to do that early on so for that
I am proud of myself and also proud of will
because that does take
A lot of work and a level of maturity to be able to do that right and it does you're right
I think that people don't give you enough credit for that
and
Now things have been turned upside down sideways
whatever and
Do I want to to change um
Up to just have like this negative toxic co-parenting relationship. No, I do not
Want that to be the scenario, but what I will do is I will
Forgo a positive co-parenting
Relationship with will as long as it means safety for my son
And so I think that's where
Some confusion has been
Um, our things have been lost maybe in translation for his family for um
Others who are listening. I have not really gotten any negative feedback to be honest. Um
I'm sure there is some but
I'm sure there is some but I haven't I haven't received any
And most people have sent me messages talking about how they would have already been arrested
If this situation would have happened to their child so
I feel as if the only thing that will has had to do is listen to me jabber and
Listen to my podcast which he has now
Um
Acknowledged that he tunes in every week. Um that the episode was sent
to
I don't know the back-end details, but that like everyone in his family
listened and
I'm
I guess my thing is is I don't and I can't wrap my head around and maybe
You can help me or maybe the listeners can help
I can't wrap my head around why someone who hates someone so bad and has so many negative feelings about someone
Why they would continue to sleep with a person?
But then also, why would you continue to subject yourself to that person?
That you don't have to like you're choosing
To go and look on my instagram all day long from your finsta. You're choosing to tune in to
coffee convos podcast and the southern tea podcast. That's two hours a week for sure
That if you're listening to the podcast that you you are
Dedicating to it. Yeah. I mean on my end. I'm not going to complain because that's another listen for us
But on your end I wholeheartedly agree with that
Like if you want to cancel out the noise and you don't want to be frustrated about things
You have to learn how to cancel that out that and that's what I tell two of my baby dads is like
Why are you still listening? Do not text me about what I talk about
Just don't listen if you don't like what people are messaging you
Then get then don't read your messages if you don't like the comments that people are saying then don't read them like
You have to pick and choose what you're willing to read and what you're willing to put put your energy into and listening to our podcast
Doesn't sound or the southern tea podcast doesn't sound like it's conducive to his well-being
So he should maybe not listen
You know for those reasons because they're just asking for
You're asking for trouble whenever you tune in because no matter what I say
If I didn't say anything from today forward no matter what I say there's going to be a problem with how I said it
right
right so
You know to tell me
um
that
You're going to speak you're gonna say this you're gonna say that literally
The world knows everything that I've done like there's no there's no secrets like my dirtiest darkest secrets
Google me like
it's out there so
I'm not going to be
manipulated into
not speaking or not saying anything because
Someone else feels that I don't need to say anything. I also find it
Quite interesting that he made a statement to me and said you care what the world thinks. I only care what my family thinks
Well, there's not much of a difference there is there that's an interesting thing though because
If you only care what your family thinks, why are you sending them the links to?
my podcast and why are they tuning into that and also
If you only care what your family thinks, why do you care what I say?
Caring what anyone thinks it doesn't matter who it is. You still care what someone else thinks
Right, but they're not very different. You're you get what I'm saying like
And furthermore, I have to disagree with him on this one because
at the end of the day
At the end of the day
You and you and will are Jackson's parents
When everyone else is no longer in the picture
You and will are still his parents. So
Why care what even your own extended family thinks when you are not the one raising my child? Yeah, you're a part of his life
But if you don't it's kind of like one of those things where it's like if you don't like what you know
What we're doing then you don't need to be a part of it. I'm not going to sit here and entertain you not liking my son's mother when
You're not
Financing him. You're not feeding him on a regular bait. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, and I I just
Truly kale cannot wrap my head around where the disconnect is between the thought process of
Why what transpired with Jackson and the accident was wrong? I feel very clear cut in
My thinking and I feel
Valid in how I feel about it and their opinions
Mean absolutely nothing to me at the point. They decided to try to hide it from me
I no longer feel the need to one entertain a positive conversation or hear someone out because will
He knows what the parenting plan states and he
Chose to not communicate those things
However, he has told me because I said last week that you know, his parents have a level of responsibility to encourage him
To do the right thing. He has now said that his parents did encourage him to do it
But he still chose not to do it. So
Um, I don't know how much truth there is to that
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Also because I said this on instagram, I feel like I have to say it on here that
three grown men tried to clean my son's
Road rash up with a beer and a golf rag
Um
I'm not sure what fucking world that they live in
But where would anyone feel that it was appropriate to pour
A beer on a golf rag and wipe my son's open cut up
Who thought that was a good idea?
Um
I'm not gonna specifically say the person's right right right right right position
That thought it was a good idea. However
It the clearly wasn't a good idea
were will his brother and will's dad and
Yeah, that was the determination on how the wound was going to get cleaned up. Um, okay
Will also shared with me that two days after the fact of the accident
That his aunt who is a nurse and has been a nurse for years and years and years and years
longer than than we've all been alive
um
That she gave him some medical advice on how to handle the situation
I think the disconnect is is that's great that she can give you medical advice and I'm glad that she actually did
But also this was two days later and anytime a child's head gets hit in any way
And there is visible markings on the outside of your face and their eye is literally swollen shut the next morning
You should have gone to get some type of medical help whether that was urgent care or
Whatever, um
The story also changed so many different times regarding the alcohol. It makes me very uncomfortable because I was told from the jump
That he wasn't drinking at all and the story that I got was he wasn't drinking at all because he was planning on going to get
pizzas for them
when they got finished golfing
so
What
I was just about to say, uh, okay, so
That explains pretty much nothing
yeah, so
His his story was that he wasn't drinking at all that his dad and his brother was drinking
And that he wasn't because he was going to go and get pizzas when they finished up their guy's day
He was going to go and get pizzas. Okay. Well then the story
changed once attorneys got involved then the story changed to he acknowledged the drinking to his attorney, but then
Told me that he had had two beers, but then by the next day
He had had three beers. Okay. So the story has changed now
Yeah, like it's changed literally
Probably three or four different times in the matter of 72 hours. So good. Okay. Um
Um
I had told will I said, you know, because I had let Jackson go to will's house when
We were in Atlanta filming and doing stuff for the podcast, right? It was a regular school day
Weekday stuff like will is on a job. Whatever. There has never been an issue during the weeks the issues arise whenever it's a weekend
And and this would have been the weekend that will would have had him like this weekend
And I said until we have some type of agreement
You don't need to sit on this because until we have some type of agreement
I am not going to let Jackson come over there because I don't feel comfortable because you're dishonest, right?
Which is fair. I feel like that's very fair
and
I kept telling him this is not
Not about control. This is about safety and he he keeps wanting to preach that
You know, this is a way for me to control him. This is a way for me to control him
I don't really feel that a normal human being would be able to view it as a way to control someone
when you just simply look at the facts of the situation how things transpired
and
him knowing
The kind of mother that I am I am super protective of Jackson
Knowing everything that we all know I do feel it's very reasonable for me to say hey, let's just do a side agreement
Um, we'll have it written up with our attorneys. We'll both sign it
I'm also not asking him to sign any agreement that I wouldn't be willing to sign myself. Right. So I also want to state that
um
so
I say, you know, if this is not executed. I tell him this
Last week on thursday, I said will
Like you can drag your feet if you want to if this is not executed
By five on friday, you will not be getting Jackson for the weekend
So then
friday rolls around
still no execution of the agreement and he's like, well
Um, I don't have an agreement to sign. Well, well, you were the same person that told me that you would only agree
to
two beers per hour
During the times that you have Jackson
And he's so
I said and further the issue is with you. So
I don't really feel like it's my attorney's job to be
Rush drafting something that's like not in benefit of me. Like I don't have a problem signing whatever it is. You're the issue
facts
And so your attorney should be drafting it. Like why are we even having this conversation?
numb nuts like
Not numb nuts
Not numb nuts. And so
sat um friday night rolls around. I'm having text
You know text exchanges with will will then thinks that after everything that has transpired
That I'm going to agree to let Jackson go with him on saturday after his basketball game
over text communication agreement
And I'm like I can say whatever I want to say over text message about an agreement
But until my attorney approves whatever I I can't vouch that that's going to be what the agreement is, right? Right, right
You know, I could go
And say I want to buy a three million dollar house, but the bank's not going to let me
You know, they might
I mean they they could but like they're probably not going to let me so
There's definitely a gatekeeper in this situation
So I can't just agree over text message to something that I don't know is going to fly or not
Like this is just me and you chatting and trying to
Find a common ground somewhere
So, of course, I get Jackson to basketball will comes in which has just been very odd
um that
For both of Jackson's basketball games will shows up basically just
on time not
Not like early like he would for baseball anything like that. It's just been
On time, which is fine. Whatever
Um, he then stop it touching my computer. He then um
Um
Does try to say something to me
But in my opinion, he was just trying to speak to me
To get what he wanted, which was for Jackson to come come with him. His parents were there, you know, so on so forth
so gets time to leave
and
He's like is he really not coming with me and I said no like I've already told you this
Why are we having this conversation and he keeps on contempt contempt contempt and I'm like
First of all, you need to look up the word contempt first and secondly
um
Your attorney needs to verse you on the actual
Agreement that you have made and there is no standing order with the court in our county
So until that order is standing, I can't be found in contempt for anything
um
This just speaks so much to
Co-parenting and when there are just courts involved custody agreements. Um
How stupid it can really get because it never should ever get to this point, right?
And then it was all weekend long like just will firing off text to me and Jackson and group texts that were inappropriate like
All freaking weekend long will's parents for the first time since I moved into this house
Text him
All weekend long multiple times
They have never texted him or called him when I have had him
since July
But now all of a sudden they want to text and call. Yeah
Yeah, that's nice. That's really nice. And so I am
wondering if
I was wondering well, you know, maybe since this is will's time, maybe they were thinking that will has him back by now
Um, if will hasn't shared that information or maybe it's like some type of bamboozle. I'm not really sure
Um will did however tell me he had told me over text that he didn't share
his um intimate details of his life with his parents or his family like he didn't share who he slept with, you know, whatever
But then that narrative changed last night whenever I talked to him face-to-face
Um, he said that when I basically said that I was going to out him for it
He told his parents that he was banging me
Oh, he was banging you. Yeah
Hmm. Okay. Okay. And I'm like, okay, you know, first of all
Not really your parents business. Um, not really anybody's business actually
But that's just weird. I said, how did that conversation go? You just like went up to them and were like, hey, by the way, still banging lindsay
Like what I fucking hope not like I really hope not because it doesn't really help his case. I'm like
I don't know. I don't know. And I said for somebody that you just hate so bad
And you you want nothing to do with you sure do go out of your way
To be involved in my stuff like 100%
Are absorbing me multiple hours a week. You see me at basketball, which really isn't a choice
Um, but you are making choices to be absorbed by me
um, and you have now made a finsta
And I found it
And you are following another female
Verified account and the people that are following you are all females
Cute that's cute
Like real cute and you just look like a scam. That's what I said. I said you
You just look like a scam, but you don't care what anybody thinks or anybody says or anybody does
It's just all I'm just the only one who cares about anything. So
That's where my co-parenting stuff
Rest
Um, I'm probably not going to unless unless someone decides to get silly. Um,
I'm probably not going to keep talking about it weekly. Um, unless there's something like super important to report back because
In his mind, he thinks that our only content and he has said this our only content is is him
Will I love you, but come on bro?
like bro bro bro
And called me
Tons of bad names. Um
And
you know
At this point in the game, I'm kind of like
Desensitized to
You know, you can call me a bitch. You can call me ugly. You can call me
Whatever you want to call me. It's not it's it's truly just words at this point and it just shows to the level that
People are willing to stoop and it's also sad that I have just picked up on several things and I'm I'm not going to
Out him for these things because I've done enough, but
I almost feel like I
Was living in a home with an enemy for such a long period of time
Based off of some of the things that have been said to me that I am truly in a state of pure disgust
Right and rightfully so. I mean at this point, you're just like
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Anything else going on with with you and your
My crew?
Yeah, not really. Um
Thank god. Yeah, I don't I'm good things obviously with football. We're gonna go to Atlanta next month, but
Not really anything going on. Um, I don't have anything to bitch about for once. It's like we're on opposite schedules
Like I pitch about
My my chaos times three and then you you don't have much and then now you have this and I have nothing
Updates as far as like other things I we didn't get to touch on Scott Peterson being
resentenced to life in prison
um, and we also didn't get to touch on
allegedly
Brian Laundrie's parents exchanged his body location for immunity
And then proceeded to immediately go to the bank to try to recover his whatever
$20,000 that he had in the bank
Wait, he had $20,000 in the bank. Yes, and he they like immediately went to go
Try to recover that
Really? Yeah
Well, so I was so consumed with my bs that I had going on that I
Miss these huge updates. Yeah, I miss these huge updates. So what what information do you know more on the scott peterson?
Sitch so scott peterson sentenced to life in prison after being spared a death sentence
Um, this is the CNN report. Um
They basically just said that he's re sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole
for the deaths of his wife and unborn child
Um, peterson 49 was convicted in 2004 for the murders of his wife lacy and their unborn son
And in august 2020 the california supreme court reversed his death sentence and then um
After finding that potential jurors were dismissed erroneously
um in part because they expressed general objections to the death penalty on a questionnaire
And then um this past wednesday. So we would have been on our our
We would have been working
They ordered they reordered him to serve life in prison without the possibility of parole for first degree murder
Um, and that is a sentence of 15 years to life for second degree murder of connor
Oh
The baby my god. So it says that
Connor would have been 18 years old by now
Really? And yeah, it says quote. He would have been 18 years old by now 10 months ago
You would have been free of child support and not have to worry about being responsible for a child. Um
Lacy and connor will always be dead and you will you will always be their murderer
Wow, yeah, so that was that update
I just I wonder if he gets
I just I wonder if he gets
Like the letters and male or in jail from
women
And I mean, I'm sure he did at first. I don't I wonder if he still does. I don't know
Yeah, I mean the really good level of like sickness like for sure
I'm well and like now with the case being like republicized
People who didn't already know about it or like get reminded of it. You know what I mean?
So I think he I would I would guess that he definitely gets like letters and stuff still
That's just that's insane. I would love to
As much as I would hate to be in a room with him
um
I would love to pick the brains of
People who who do this to their families and why they think that
One that you're going to get away with it, but two
It kill it has to be something
Mentally
Truly wrong because it's a pattern like you see similar patterns through these cases
That you're like, okay, where were they thinking that they were going to get away with this?
They were going to eliminate this family that they created and then they were going to go off and live like nilly willy
That's what I don't get like
You just you have to want like did did you really think you were going to get off?
I I don't know but I mean look at the other cases that we have talked about and it's the same thing
What was that other guy?
Um
What's chris for watts?
Like where did you think that you were going to get?
Away with that like who told you
Who told you that that you were just going to be like free and clear living with your mistress?
Right
And you know, yeah, no, I I agree with you like what are you what are you thinking?
What are you thinking? I don't know. Um, but that's all the tea that I have
I don't have much else to add to today's episode
Wait, what? Um, tell me about your house. Are you getting close?
Yeah, so the newest update is carpet upstairs and the bedrooms went in
Um, most of the lighting is going in my pantry shelves are being built all the flooring like the hard flooring
Hardwood is in um, and I posted some of the light fixtures yesterday. I was super excited. They worked
Yeah, they worked Saturday and Sunday. I know like
My style I promise you is not for everybody, but like
It's definitely not like a typical like I'm just not into like the farmhouse vibe
Like that's just like not my vibe. So if that's your vibe my style most likely will not
Be appealing to you
Um, but I I'm really excited. They said a an estimated completion date of 12 31 and then um
But that being said I ordered all new stuff for that house. So unless my
Couches and beds come I won't be able to move in until that stuff comes because I'm not bringing my old stuff to the new house
You know, what's really interesting is I look at your style
of your home and I feel like
I love it first of all, but
I feel like as a person
Your style of home and like who you are is very different
Like you think yeah, I feel like you're very like casual relaxed
um
I mean crazy, but like your home style to me is more
Like there's fancy elements of your home style I feel like
I wanted a very edgy vibe. Um
And I love like gold. I'm not a super silver person
um
I wanted like more of like an edgy vibe. So and I feel like
my style's kind of
casual with like a little
You know, like I like a a studded jacket here and there
It's kind of like how I want my house like kind of casual on the outside when you go in there's kind of some edgy touches, you know
Yeah, you know, it's kind of like
I would imagine it being like wearing those little like short heels, you know
I can't wear any type of heels. Okay
I would imagine that that would be if you were describing it as a person
It would be someone who was like trying to be casual
but they needed to put on like a little a little chode heel to
jazz it up like a little juge
I mean, I agree with that. I'm going to be adding
pictures on my stories for the next several weeks. I'm hoping to be in there by mid-January
I hope to be in there before my Atlanta trip actually
um
But we should we should do a this or that home edition on
coffee combos instagram this week because I would love to know people who prefer
like silvers over golds. Are you mixed metals?
Are you mixed metals?
Are you more farmhouse? Are you more traditional? Are you more?
Whatever kills kill like I feel like you have to dub your style as like its own name
Okay. Well, what would we call my style would we call it? So like I couldn't say like it's edgy
I feel like it is but if it's also like edgy casual like what is that?
Like define that. Ke- keggy
Keggy with a K. It's edgy casual edgy. Um
keggy
Keggy. Yeah, I mean, I think to like that's like kale edgy. Like
keggy with a K
Well, let our followers our listeners name my style. I love it so much
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