Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 200: Episode Thoughts, News Of The Week, and Baby Swapping

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

This week on Coffee Convos Kail and Lindise are reacting to the premiere episode of Teen Mom Family Reunion. They share their thoughts on the episode, the drama, and so much more. Plus Kail talks about her side of the story regarding Briana. Then Lindsie and Kail discuss several news stories from the past week, including Jamie Lynn Spears' book and interview on Good Morning America, Stephanie Matto's smelly side hustle, and a True Crime story from 2018. And Kail recently sent Lindsie a TikTok about babies being switched and she has not stopped thinking about it since. Kail and Lindsie want to know, what you would do if you found out your child had been switched at birth? This episode was sponsored by: Stamps.com & Chime Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Hey, everyone, we're finally recording for coffee combos podcast. And this one's exciting because we are going to recap the episode of team mom family reunion. Good morning, kitty gang fluffers. I have had a fantastic week so far. And I'm excited to jump into this recap, but I'm also excited about the other things that we have to share. I feel like this episode is so loaded, like there's just so much to talk about, but I don't even know if we're gonna have enough time. Like I'm scared. Right. No, so I am. I am also having a really good week. I've been working on a couple of things in therapy, just doing certain things at night

to make my mornings go smoother. And I'm hoping that with some time that will transfer into like my diet and like my lifestyle changes for my word of the year, which is also health. I know you said that was your word too. I'm hoping that the things that I do at night to help my days go smoother will also like just translate over through everything that I do. And because it's so hard when you think about like instant gratification, right? Like I do something at night to make the next, the very next morning go smoothly, but with like health, you don't see that same instant gratification. And so it takes a little while to get there. And so I'm a little nervous, but I am excited because what I have been doing this week is

working. So I'm hoping that I just like continue to do it. So I actually, it's crazy that you said that because I was telling someone this morning that I feel like when I get up and like start my day actively, not just like take Jackson to school and do like the morning mom routine, but like having my own routine, taking my vitamins, getting to the gym, coming home and showering and then really starting my day, I feel so much more productive. And although that can't be a reality for everyone, I'm just speaking for what works for me. It makes me so stressed when I wait to work out at night. It just doesn't really make sense to me unless I had to do that. I don't really have a reason why I can't work out first thing in the morning. And it feels

so good to like be prepared and productive. It's like, okay, I've done what I needed to do in that regard so I can get on with my day. Yeah, no, I totally understand that. I feel like sometimes when the morning is slow and drags out and I have a bunch of stuff in the afternoon, it feels like more chaotic and less productive. So I kind of, I do understand what you're saying. I love that. We should start sharing like what's in our kid's lunchbox. Yeah, I'm down for that. I know that's what I, that's one of those small things that I've been doing at night instead of the morning of just like something as small as packing the lunch the night before instead of in the morning, literally just it made such a big

difference. And I know it sounds like a no brainer. Like it just sounds like it was absolute common sense. But I guess I just like once I get upstairs and take my kids, you know, upstairs to get ready for like their baths, their showers, get ready for bed, I do not go back downstairs after that. So it just felt like such a drag to me to like do all of that at night and then go back downstairs and still do stuff. So I've been dragging myself back downstairs to like do all of that before. But yeah, I would love to start sharing what's in our kid's lunches. I think that's super cute. And hopefully other people will share with us too. So we can get some ideas. Wait, I love getting the ideas. But if anyone's going to try to share where they like home cooked

salmon and put it in a no box, I will kill you. Like, no, that's not the types of shares that we're looking for. We're looking for like quick and easy, but also like healthy options that don't take a whole lot of time and a whole lot of prep because ain't nobody got time for that. Oh, yeah, no, agreed. I'm not I'm not doing no smoked salmon, some rolled sushi, like I'm not doing it. It's a no. You know, I was on TikTok, like, the moms are like making these bento boxes, and it's like they're rolling up sushi rolls, and it's like all these like homemade meals that are going into these. And I'm like, you know, I really love this for you. But I also hate this for me. And I hate the fact that I'm even watching this because it literally makes me feel like a piece

of shit. Yes, no, 100%. It makes me also you hear these cars outside my window. I'd also makes me feel like a piece of shit. So while I do love that for the other people and their children, I don't love it for me. So I am with you 100%. But okay, can we please talk about this episode? Because prior to coming on to record with you today, I saw that the teen mom Instagram page posted a deleted scene. And I want to get into that after we recap this episode, I literally took notes. And there I wrote down so much that I was like, I don't know if I'm supposed to say like, all of my opinions, like, I like, don't know how much we should be trolling. But like, because it's like, it's not to be like, I'm not trying to throw shade, like it was just like,

I've never done a recap. So I don't know like how in depth we're going. And I this is truly not to offend anyone. But I so I was like, maybe I should like take it down a notch. This is strictly for entertainment purposes only. But also, if you're coming to get the tea and the truth, then please join us weekly while this show is airing, because we will give it to you. I also took notes. And if you guys have not watched it's the teen mom family reunion. Basically, all the girls are on it minus kale. And it comes on on Tuesdays from eight to nine Eastern standard. And one thing that really one of these girls I don't know. And then one of them I have met and truly like her as a person where it has been dubbed that this was Macy and Cheyenne's idea to do this. The first

thing I wrote down that was literally the first thing that I wrote down was Cheyenne and Macy take full credit for this for this whole thing. I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say that Cheyenne and Macy could have collectively had an idea to do this. And it could be very possible that network people decided that they weren't going to give kale credit for it. And not tell Cheyenne and Macy, which made them think that it actually was their idea. Sure, like I think it's very possible that they had a similar idea to ours. Leah and I actually had a meeting with the producers for this back back in early 2021. And Ashley, I went on Ashley's podcast I need wine that aired today. I don't know if it was edited out or not, but I'm gonna

say it again in case it was back when we recorded with Ashley in 2018 for coffee combos podcast. When her and bar came to California and came to the Airbnb that we were recording at, we also talked about it back in 2018. Like that's how long Lindsay and I have been saying this and went as far as having and Lindsay was in New York when I have a meeting with the producers with Leah. Lindsay didn't come to the meeting, but she was in New York with me. And we actually literally sat in a room with the producers to talk about this. So I don't know if it was a case of like Kale is not here. And so we have to like explain how this came about, or maybe they did in fact have a similar idea. So that was literally the first thing that I wrote down. I do want to say

now everyone in my opinion looks like fabulous. Like I think like all of their hair and makeup is on point, like everyone's outfits look so good. So I will say that that is very different than what we see on Team Mom 2 not saying that nobody looks great. It's just very different. Like this is a different side of the Team Mom OG and Team Mom 2 cast because we don't get to see everybody in full hair and makeup on a regular Team Mom OG or Team Mom 2 season. Like it's more day in the life of and so it was kind of nice to see everyone dressed up and like, I don't know, I thought that was cute. This to me is more like a regular produced MTV show and not a docu series. And so that's where there's a huge difference there. They have these exercises

that they do, which are similar to other MTV, you know, that we we've seen, you know, marriage boot camp on we. So I did like the format of the show. I thought so far based off of episode one, it has been very well done. One person that stuck out to me is Macy. And I really loved everything that she had to contribute. And I truly hope that this gives her some form of self worth and to feel like a woman outside of being a mother. Yeah. She had made a statement saying that she was trying to figure out who she is as a 30 year old woman and not just Macy the mom. And I think anyone who is listening to this that is a mother who became a mother young, although I was not a teen, I was so young when I had Jackson, I might as well have been a Team

Mom. And I can truly relate to that. I know that you have had bouts of going through seasons of your life where you feel like what am I outside of being a mom on Team Mom to Isaac, Lincoln, Lux, Creed's mother. Yeah, no, I mean, there's been times where I've cried over it. I've lost sleep over it. I feel like I'm worthless if I don't have some type of side business or project or product. I feel worthless. And when she said that she found confidence in making sure everyone else was good, but then she might not be good, that was something that with my depression, it's so weird because I told my therapist that. I said when it comes to my kids, it's like my therapy doesn't, not my therapy. When it comes to my kids, it's like my depression doesn't exist.

But as soon as my motherly duties are done for the night or the day, I don't know who Kale is. And so that I do resonate with. But Macy and Cheyenne both say something along the same lines that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Macy makes a comment about Amber teaching the younger moms to make better decisions. And then Cheyenne says that the older cast is helping the younger cast. Both of those things kind of rub me the wrong way because nobody's that much older than anybody. Let me not, let me not say that. Let me speak for myself because I do think that Brianna is younger and I think Jade might be younger as well. And Ashley. Oh, that's right. Okay. Okay. So that's fair. So now, now I take that back. I'm rescinding my statement. It doesn't rub me the

wrong way. I was just like, I, most of us have been moms for longer than Cheyenne. So I was like, I don't know how like, that was like weird. But now I fully understand. I forgot that they were all, I'm pretty sure Ashley might be, Ashley and Jade might be the youngest. And I will tell you, just from an outsider looking in somebody who is not part of the franchise, I do think that regardless of who's been on the show the longest, the OG cast, whether new or old, takes on this duty to like be mothers to teen mom, two girls and like other girls within the franchise. And I don't know if it's a territory marking. I don't know if it, you know, what it is, but I definitely sense that a little bit that, you know, they are the pinnacle of this franchise.

And then everybody's kind of like under them. I do like that they were able to bring a guest. When I saw like some of the promo photos, I thought it was like weird. I guess Jade brought her friend or something. It's just that, that was a little weird. I understand why Brittany was there. I understand why husbands, boyfriends, baby fathers, like whatever that looks like, I understand why they were there. I think it's important for everyone to have a support person. And so that's something like they've never done that before, like for MTV Awards, VMAs, things like that, we've never been able to bring guests outside of the father of our original cast. So that was nice to have like a support person there for everybody. I'm going to give a little advocate on

this a little bit though. I like that idea. That's good and great. But the conflict that happened on this episode, when they remove some people's support person because they are of the opposite sex and it's just girls in a scenario and only two people have girl support people, then that's wrong. Wait, who has, who's the other person with the support person? Well, you've got Brianna and Brittany and then you've got Jade and her friend. What was it? What was her friend's name? I didn't catch her friend's name. Whatever Jade's friend's name. And then the other girls are kind of like Ashley has bar, but then bars removed. Leah's boyfriend doesn't show up until, you know, later in the episode. Gary's not there. First of all, Gary, are we still doing chin straps? I don't

know if we're still doing chin straps anymore. My God, stop. I'm just saying, I'm not trying to be rude, but I've just given him a friendly tip. Okay, well, Gary, if you are listening, Gary Shirley, to be specific, can we try something other than the chin strap? All right, you guys, we're going to take a quick break to talk about one of our partners, stamps.com. And this is such a great business find. If you are a small business owner, I know that you're busy enough as it is, and you don't have time to deal with the hassle of going to the post office, but with stamps.com, you can skip the trip and never waste another dollar or a minute. Stamps.com lets you print official postage right from your computer,

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their issues, I love that and I support bar says this episode, he says dropping Mentos in a Coca Cola bottle and I LOL because I was like, this is that is so true. Jade's Jade says that her baby dad is in rehab. That's good. When they sit down in the circle and they start like talking and Jade starts crying, I start cringing because just like crying makes me uncomfortable and I hate crying on TV. Like it's like my most cringiest thing that I do. I was just like cringing because I felt like it became so like emotional and deep so quick that I, it made me uncomfortable. It was heavy. It was heavy really quick and I guess what made me uncomfortable was Ashley was in that scenario to be in a situation that was so emotionally

triggering obviously to Jade and for Ashley to be sitting there. Jade, Bree, I think Brittany and Jade's friend, when they walked in, it was truly like a scene out of Mean Girls. Like they came in, you know, they had attitudes like they came in looking for a fight and I don't care if anyone disagrees. Like I felt the energy through the fucking TV screen. And I know that Jade had said and I will say I've met Jade one time. She was super nice to me. I don't have anything negative to say about Jade. I've met Ashley several times. Definitely don't have anything negative to say about Ashley, but Jade had referenced multiple times that she feels that Ashley has bullied her online for years and I also got the Mean Girls vibe when they all walked in and it was like there was an

agenda there and they were going to see that out and Jade trying to fight Ashley over the bullying. It's like you can't, like two wrongs don't make a right, you know. And so if you're going there with the intentions of letting it all out there, getting it all out there, we're all trying to right wrongs and become this collective group of people. I don't think that that necessarily was the way to handle it and I also think that you can't sit and say that this person has bullied you online for so long, but then yet you're ganged up with your friends against her and it's like these people against one person, like that's also not fair. Yeah, no, I agree with that. So when they do their screen therapy or whatever, first of all, I was cringing at that whole

exercise, like that specific exercise. I was so cringed out, like I was not okay. Those of you who didn't watch it yet, they bring in a life coach and they do the screaming exercises, and basically it's supposed to release this happy hormone, which is the way of releasing something so that you can move on from it. So no doubt that I'm sure it made the girls feel good after they like screamed, but when Leah screams trust, I think that she was the life coach was like fishing because I think that she thought that Leah was going to relate the trust to something with the girls that were there, but she related it to her life instead. And I think that they were really fishing for drama, but it was like one of those things where it's like, oh, like

that's not where I saw this going. I think that they really thought she was going to like talk about the trust within the cast. Agreed. So Amber, she's, I think she's still the same Amber that I knew that I'd known. I just don't like that if she is sober, I don't like that she was involved in a scenario with alcohol. I don't feel like that was fair to her because she, you know, has been pretty open about her struggles and I don't really think that was fair. So I just wanted to make a note of that. I also want to make a note that I've met Amber one time and she was nothing but lovely and kind and I don't see a different Amber on this show. Yeah, then what we've seen. And, you know, obviously she's had her struggles and been through stuff on the show

and I'm not going to allow that to define her, but she seemed pretty straightforward, very kind on the show, so I respected that. Brianna calls out Ashley for, she says she screams fuck the fakeness. I didn't like that because again, I just felt like if she's so fake, just be unbothered. Like just don't, don't feed into it. Why do you care? You don't see her every day, so you don't see her in real life. Why are you going to react to her if you think that she's fake at all? Like leave it alone. I will say one thing that Brianna said that again, very similar to what Macy said that she's 27 years old, feels like she has no direction in life, became a mom before she really knew herself. And I can certainly relate to that aspect of her, but the beef with

Ashley, I almost feel, and I don't know this, but I almost feel like that that's something that Jade and Brianna have latched on to each other for. It's like a common ground that they have that they've got this beef with Ashley and it's, it's something that they connect with and I feel like this is just a good indication that this is just not going to end well. Well, it's like in real life when people don't like somebody, when they have that common, that common similarity of they don't like the same person they bond and that is weird to me. Like that shit is so corny. Like I don't even, that's weird. I think that they, they did, they ganged up on Ashley and I think had I been there, I think that Brianna would have said some, she would have screamed something about me, I'm

sure. I wrote down in my notes, Jade needs to shut up. This was about Bri, not about you and Ashley. So I guess when I wrote that, I felt like when Brianna screams, fuck the fakeness, like let Brianna and Ashley work it out by themselves. She doesn't need you to fuel the fire. I don't think that Jade needed to step in at that point. It was not her turn. It was not her story. She didn't need to make it about her and I know that Brianna said like she's glad that she was able to like allow that to happen for Jade, but I think that's a cop out and I think that she just needed to let Brianna handle her own shit for once. But then again, Brittany wasn't there. So Brianna doesn't know how to handle anything without somebody backing her up. And then Cheyenne says

she feels like it was a team up. And then something, I wrote Bri what question mark you literally do exactly what you're telling Ashley, she does. Oh, like being one person in person and then being another person online. Brianna is the, that's the same person who after this whole thing was filmed, whole lawsuit was going on, sends me a treadmill and then five days later writes a fucking novel on Instagram talking about growth and change. You sent me a treadmill five days ago. Like you don't get to, you don't get to like call Ashley out for something that you're doing yourself. And I wrote down Jade is off the wall and I can't stand her. Okay. She looks, she looks pretty though. She looks really pretty. Let's break it. Let's break it down a little bit.

So only because I know probably more information than anybody else knows about the kill and Brianna saga. I felt that the treadmill was in very poor taste. Mind you, there's a lawsuit that's going on and you're sending the other person a workout device that is bullying, literal harassment. It's, it's bullying and to sit and have Jade saying things to Ashley about how you've come after my appearance. You've done this, you've done that. And Brianna backing Jade on this. It's a little hypocritical when you just sent one of my best friends a fucking treadmill.

It's just, I don't think that Jade would have, would have reacted the same way if Bri wasn't there doing what she did. Like if she didn't scream, fuck the fakeness and call Ashley out. I don't think that Jade would have had the balls to confront Ashley. I just don't. I watched how Jade handled coming on our podcast when we announced that she was coming to Teen Mom 2. And you know, we had a late start because of things that were going on. And I, I truly don't think that she would have done what she did without Brianna saying what she said. So overall, I want to say two things. I want to say one, it's okay to not like someone and you can still be nice without it being fake. Like you can be respectful and civil and have a conversation with someone that you don't like.

That doesn't mean it's fake. That's, that's, I don't understand people who are like, oh, if she's nice to me, it's cause she's fake. No, she's just being respectful and doesn't care to let the fact that you, that she doesn't like you bother her so that you can't have a conversation. I don't understand that whole, so when Ashley's sitting there trying to give Jade support and advice and things like that, I don't think that that's fake. I think that she was truly trying to squash the beef. I think that Ashley did a good job taking accountability for what she did. So I don't really understand the, I don't understand her being fake. Um, I will say, I think Ashley's the least

fakers person of all. So I will just say that I will also say that the Jade that I met was timid and a bit nervous. And so what I saw on this episode was just very different. But again, this could be because she's been on the show for a couple of seasons now. She's found a friend that, you know, also has beef with other people. Maybe it's like a combination of a bunch of things that gave her the courage to be able to do that. That's just not the Jade that I feel like I met though. Agreed. Let's start off 2022 with a better checking account and no monthly fees. Chime is an award winning app and debit card that has no overdraft fees, foreign transaction

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and do a scene introducing Bri and Brittany to the team mom to cast because they knew that we had previously well quote unquote hung out when we got surgery and, you know, Brittany and Nova came to my 23rd birthday in Orlando a prior year. And so they knew that there was some type of like friendly relationship. And so they called me to go down to Florida and introduce her to team mom. Those plans ended up falling through. But Brittany called me prior to them announcing it and was like, Hey, just wanted to like give you a heads up that, you know, we are joining team mom to and I was like, Oh, awesome. Like I had no issues with this. So what she is saying is a complete lie. It is complete bullshit. I did not care that she was coming to team mom to that I and

intimidated by who I'm not intimidated by anyone. So then fast forward to the dating hobby thing. Neither one of them were honest with me about what the relationship status was that they were actually in a talking stage. They were not just friends. They were, they were in a talking situation. They were going to date. They started dating and they were not honest about it. So that was my second issue. My third issue is I'm pretty sure now again, this is just speculation based on the timeline that I have worked out. Fast forward. I didn't know until the lawsuit occurred. So let me, let me just say this. People are still confused about the lawsuit between me and Brianna. She got on Instagram live a public platform where she publicly accused me of felonies. I never commit.

I never committed. I don't care who she heard from. She said it was Chris and then she said it was production and then I don't really know the order, the secrets of events. She gets on Instagram live. She says this and then is wondering why am I filing a lawsuit and then goes on national television or in this case in the deleted scene on Instagram says that she doesn't understand and we could work this out privately or whatever. She claims growth on her own Instagram. She has never said the things that she said on TV and on her own Instagram post to me personally. She is never publicly or privately apologized to me or tried to talk to me about what she said and what she did. And number two, at what point do I get to defend my name and file a lawsuit when you're

literally accusing me of felonies? Like that is the part that everybody's missing. I have never broken into anyone's house ever. I don't care who told you that. So that's how I felt about that, how she portrays it to be about hobby and I've hated her ever since. That is completely bullshit. That's complete bullshit. So I just wanted to say that much and I'm trying to think what else was on that deleted scene. I know what was on the deleted scene. What? So it was Leah walking away and saying that she stayed consistent through the episode that she said the teen mom two girls are all about the drama and she feels like she doesn't want to be in the middle of it. And then I felt that she kind of backed that with her actions when she walked away from

the situation and kind of let Brianna know she didn't want to be a part of those conversations about you and she's fine to like hang, be cordial and nice to everybody as long as those aren't the conversations that were going on. And while I can respect Leah for stepping away from the situation and letting Brianna know how she feels, I feel like it would have been much more impactful had she said that to the entire group to let everybody know where she stood. I just think it's so funny because I actually got a text from a cast member while they were there saying that like I came up in the in the during filming and that Brianna wanted to have that she would be willing to have a conversation and work things out and things like that. But

overall, I was a little bit disappointed in the show. I don't personally feel like it was worth watching, but I'm going to continue to watch just to recap. I definitely just think it could have been a little bit better. Yeah, I agree. I think that the episode kind of drug on a little bit like it was a little anticlimactic until it was climactic, you know what I mean? But then I do feel that is a first episode of a lot of shows. It's like if we've got Yellowstone fans that are on here, I wasn't super invested the first couple of episodes, but you have to get through the first couple of episodes to get really invested in my opinion. So I'm excited to see what comes and I'm excited to see them do more of these group activities just to see what Tia spilled and

what comes out. Agreed. I will be tuning in next week and hopefully it gets a little bit better. And completely unrelated news and onto Coffee Combos podcast regular content would love to talk about Jamie Lynn Spears exclusive interview with Good Morning America this morning. Yeah, also rubbed me the wrong way. Jamie Lynn Spears is finally speaking out about everything about her sister in a book called Things I Should Have Said. So naturally she's speaking out only because she's writing a book and going to make money off of it. She's not speaking up because it's the right thing to do or because she actually wants to defend her sister and maybe her own actions. So I think that is in poor taste. When I saw that she was going on Good Morning America,

I was kind of like, are you fucking kidding me? But I thought maybe that she was actually going to take accountability for her part in all of this. And lo and behold, that's when I see this is all for her book. So although I do feel that this press opportunity was for her book and she's monetizing again off of Brittany's downfall, I will say she made a statement and she said it was really important to honor her voice. And then she talked about how she has to do it or how else can she expect her daughters to stand up for themselves. And she had also talked about how she had adored Brittany when they were growing up and that at the time that this conservatorship happened. She was 17 years old and pregnant and her focus was being a teen mom and not the

conservatorship and the stuff that was going on with Brittany at the time. And so there was not a huge level of understanding whenever that was going on. And so she also I felt it was good for her to say that she was not going to speak on anyone else's state of mind as far as Brittany's current mental state and how she just said that she didn't feel like that was fair. So I think there were good parts of this interview and I think that there's way more to come from this. But I also feel that anyone can pick apart what anyone in the public eye does. And it's easy to say oh well you know she's monetizing off of Brittany's downfall. But maybe there are pieces of this book that it's going to be her outlet to be able to speak and give her peace. And I don't

want to like jump too quick to judge because we also don't know and we've said for years Kale like we don't know why she's never spoken. You know was there some type of. I speak now why make why write a book that you're going to profit off of. I'm just wondering like could you not have done like a fucking sit down with Diane Sawyer and talked about it. Like why does it have to be written in a book where you know you are. I know how book contracts work. I was not legally supposed to write anything about Janet or my mom without their signing off on it. Like there are things that she probably she probably had multiple lawyers look over this over these manuscripts. Like I know how that works and I just feel like that was such a shitty move. Like sit down with

Diane Sawyer and do a full interview with no lawyer and no like editing and no you know what I'm saying. Like do what you want to do. Speak up because it's right. Not because you're going to make some money from it. For sure. I mean I think that there's definitely something to be said for that for sure. But again I think that this family for the longest time have monetized off of her and it's like what they know to do you know. Jamie has lived in her sister's shadow for so long and she's wanting her 15 minutes and this is my opinion strictly my opinion and you know the Twitter trolls do what they do and they have come to the conclusion that that interview with her for Good Morning America they believe that she is filming that interview in Lou Taylor's house.

Oh wow. Like that's what that's what is being said on Twitter. Again this is all alleged and public opinion not necessarily the truth. It says Jamie Lynn walking outside Lou's house. Look at the back gate and tile almost. It's most definitely Lou's house. It has pictures attached. Jamie Lynn filming her interview about Brittany in the Lou Taylor in the house Lou Taylor bought after working for Brittany using a business. She was able to expand. Thanks Brittany. Also I'm going to say this. I wonder if there was some type of like gag order or something during the time that Brittany was under conservatorship and maybe that was lifted after she no longer was under conservatorship. So maybe she's allowed to speak now.

Like that's all hypothetical. Like I don't know. Well it also the Brittany at Brittany the Stan tweeted don't let Jamie Lynn fool you. She used her power as Brittany's trustee and filed a signed and verified petition to move Brittany's money into blocked accounts with Lou Taylor's investment firm Stonebridge and there are screenshots. So I will also add these to our Instagram stories but again this is all alleged and my opinion. Other news I saw something and this is going to circle back to the Teen Mom franchise. So just hear me out for a second 90 day fiance stars often have side hustles for additional income beyond their paychecks from the franchise. But Stephanie Maddow's latest

successful venture was a bit a bit stranger than most. She began selling her own farts in jars weeks ago. No. And allegedly turned a considerable profit doing so. Unfortunately for her she's being forced to leave the fart selling game following a medical scare. She retired from her successful but stinky gig after she passed gas one too many times got the wind knocked out of her. She told the press that she feared that she had symptoms of a stroke or a heart attack and had a friend take her to the hospital. After a barrage of testing including an EKG and blood work she learned her issues related to her diet of beans and eggs to increase her farts. You are lying. No. I'm not. So then it says she sold each jar for $100 and had a mask somewhere

in the ballpark of $100,000 in mid December. No way. No fucking way. At the time of her alleged retirement she walked away with around $200,000 in profit. I don't believe that. I do not. I don't. I don't buy it. Where are people getting these numbers? I don't know. Did she post it somewhere? I don't know. Like how did people find out about these fart jars? Like I have no idea. And then it said that you know I guess this is the respectable part of the story that she would donate a portion of her money from the fart jars to charitable organizations that help. I'm hanging up. I'm hanging up on you. I don't. I don't. This is not real. I don't believe you. This is so far fetched. Like I just don't. I don't believe you. It's literally real. This happened.

And yeah, it's just real. So do you want to know how it like kind of circled back to Teen Mom? Yes. Okay. So allegedly. I'm so disgusted. Allegedly what? Allegedly Farah has been selling shit in jars. No, she's not. Yeah. No, that's not. I don't even look at my shit in the toilet, let alone have to shit in a jar and look at it and like mail it out. Like that has to be, first of all, like poop is like a felony. I'm pretty sure. Like someone threw dog shit at my door one time. And that's like, I'm pretty sure it's a felony. Like bodily fluids is a felony. And I understand that it's like, it's asked for. Like it's like requested, but that is so foul and dissanitary or unsanitary, unsanitary. I cannot, I don't believe

you. Like I don't believe this article. Okay. So it says, there's only fans for a while now. And in 2020, the world learned that she was selling videos of herself pooping for $100. A lot of people thought that she had hit an all-time low with that, but now she is taking it a step further because she is now filming herself pooping and then selling the poop. In a video she posted on her only fans account, Farah gave her followers the scoop, opening things up with, hey, loves. So real quick, I wanted to show you how I shit in a jar and send it to you. I need to close my computer. I've heard enough. I've heard enough for the day. I've heard enough for the week. No, I have to check out right now because that is not real.

She was in the bathroom while filming the video and she showed off the tiny jar she uses to hold the product and then demonstrated how it works with her clothes on explaining. So I take my number, oops, then I wipe my poop, then I put it in here. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. We need to change the subject because I'm going to throw up. So that is what is going on. No, I need people to, I need her to have a psych about. That's what I need her. I need her to have a psych evaluation immediately because that is not normal behavior. Like we're not, we're not fine. We haven't been fine in some time. I feel like just hearing this, I need to go take a shower. Like dirty, gross, like it makes me dirty. The fact that I listened and I heard what you

just said. Like I am filthy and need to go take a shower. If you are farting and shitting in jars, you can't sit with us. No, no, nope, cannot. Okay. And the last, I probably have way more to provide, but the last thing that I really want to provide is the story that I have become so invested in that you just need to know everything about it. So early 2018, this in Florida, this married couple who were high school sweethearts, the police like went out to their house, right? And the officer had asked to speak with the man and his oldest friend had called the police saying that they hadn't seen Michael in person, hadn't gotten a call from him in like over two years. And that he was only communicating via text and Facebook messages and thought it was like really

weird. So the woman's name is Lori. She let the police inside to look around and she answered their questions. He was like a former commercial pilot. He worked as a mechanic maintaining the Montreal system in Walt Disney World. And she allegedly told the police that she had no idea where he was and she had not seen him in that year. And that she claimed that he had just like walked out, left her and the kids. So then when the police asked if they could come in and bring the dogs to search the property, this woman tells them that they would need to come back with a warrant. So like first red flag. Then not even a month later, so we're looking like March of 2018, they come back with a warrant. They come back with cadaver dogs and the ground penetrating radar.

And by the end of the day, they recovered the man's body. They found it buried three feet beneath a concrete fire pit in the backyard. It was wrapped in a fitted sheet that was wrapped in a tarp and then secured with ratchet straps. And the autopsy on his skeletal remains revealed that he had been shot once in the back of the head with a 38 caliber handgun. And they didn't know if it was like several months to several years before he was found. And it ultimately led to her arrest, obviously. And they charged her with second degree murder and accessory to second degree murder. And then the craziest part of this, if that's not like crazy enough, she actually goes by a different last name now because she remarried in 2016.

Okay. So like she literally kills her husband, buries him. He's like missing for years. She's communicating with people like over Facebook text message as if it's him. And she is remarried. And nobody says anything and nothing. No. And then the crazy thing is, is that she, when she got remarried in 2016, they did a backyard ceremony that took place just inches from where the corpse was buried and found. And her and her new husband had marked the concrete with their initials. That's fucking weird. Like it's really weird. And the only reason that he was ever reported missing was because friends and relatives like continued to receive these messages from his Facebook account. And they said that it also like occasionally updated.

And weeks after he passed away, the police said that this Lori used his debit card for like online purchases and that checks sent to their home were endorsed deposited into his account. And she drained it over just like a matter of weeks and that she started selling off his guns, giving them away, giving away like these expensive tools that he had and all this crazy shit. I'm, I have the article pulled up as well. And I'm just like blown away because I feel like there are so many red flags. Like if I only am receiving messages via Facebook, that, yeah, it sounds good, but like, why aren't they calling and texting? Why am I not seeing them? Yeah, the one friend, but like, why did it take him so long to like, no,

okay, there's obviously an issue. Like also his there's no death certificate. So did they have the marriage? Like, how did that work? How does she have a new husband legally? If you have to legally be divorced? Like, how does that work? I don't know. I'm wondering like, did they divorce or like, was it not, was her second marriage like not legalized? Because you can't be married and then get married. No, I don't think they were divorced because the, even the headline says a Florida father tried to keep his troubled marriage together for his kids, then he disappeared. So I don't think so. I mean, and you'd have to be like, I know my mom and my dad, they, like my actual sperm donor, they were married. And even though they had me, my dad

technically abandoned us. So the marriage was, I'm not sure if it was a nulled or it was signed by a judge because he hadn't, my mom hadn't heard from him in over six months. So they, she didn't hear from him for a year. So maybe, so then maybe, maybe it was like signed off. Well, isn't that so crazy? And he had no active mobile phone accounts. His driver's license, passport, pilot certification had all expired. And his car had been repossessed from the driveway. And all his credit card bills had gone unpaid. But like, how did no one else know that this was going on? Like, how did he bamboozle these people? Well, people probably didn't like her. So they probably didn't, maybe they didn't reach out to her. That is so, that's insane.

Isn't that insane? I want to go visit her in prison and just be like, we're like, what the fuck were you thinking? How did you? I want to ask her so many questions. Like, can you tell me exactly what the fuck was going through your mind when you decided to kill your husband, put him in a fitted sheet, wrap the fitted sheet in a tarp and then put like, like latches around it and bury him three feet because you're a lazy bitch and you can't dig further. And then put concrete over him, like ma'am. Was it in the backyard or where was it? Yeah, in their backyard. But like, are you that dumb? Like, are you that dumb? If I was a cop and I went someone's house and was like, can I come in and look around and they

immediately are like, no, like you have to come back with a warrant red flag, like right away. But like, why would you put it in your backyard? Like that doesn't even, I had one of my exes told me that they could kill me and get away with it. And I was just like, I don't think so because between Lindsay and Kristen, like, they're going to solve the crime by dinner time. Like there's no way you're going to get away with my murder, like especially because he would be that dumb to like bury me three feet in my own backyard. So like, I just don't know where Laurie's head was at when she buried him three feet down in her backyard. Literally, I know exactly the person that you're talking about. And I will say one time you were

not answering your phone. And I was so close to calling 911. I called Kristen and she was actually on her way to your house. And we were in contact the entire time. And I was like, we need to call the cops like right now, like where is she? We need to know. I remember that. I actually remember that. Yeah, like I was terrified. Speaking of being terrified, and it's just probably the last thing that we have time for. Unless you have time for something else. That TikTok that you sent me about babies being switched is terrifying, is fucking terrifying. Yeah, so it says on this TikTok that it was a dying nurse on a deathbed. She claimed she swapped more than 5000 babies. That's scary. And this TikToker was talking about how she had been switched at birth, right?

Yes. And she said that that was a real story. And her mom knew that that was not her baby when the baby had been switched. Yeah. So like, what the fuck? First of all, I will tell you, because I used to watch, I don't really watch TV anymore. Honestly, the first time I have turned on my TV and so long was two weeks ago, over Christmas break, I watched Selling Sunset on like, repeat, I guess it's like called binge watching. And then I watched the Teen Mom Family reunion to get my TV to work. I literally had to do the LG update to be able to watch the episode because my TV was so outdated. I had not watched it in so many weeks. But with that being said, I used to watch Lifetime all the time when I was pregnant and because I was on bedrest and it freaked me out. And there's

like all these like crazy stories that are like people will come in like steal your babies and whatever. And so I must have been like panicked because when I had Jackson, like I would not let him go to the nursery. And the only time he ever left the room was for a procedure. That was it. And when the nurse came in, like I asked to check her badge. She probably thought I was a fucking crazy person. I was like, I need to check like your badge. And I need to like know exactly where he's going in the hospital. Like, can my husband follow you? Like where you're going? Like all this stuff, I never let him go to the nursery. I was absolutely terrified that one, someone would steal him or he would get switched. That is a terrifying feeling. Like you just don't

know. No. And he just stayed in the room with me the whole time. And people probably thought I immediately had like postpartum because I was crazy. But really, it's just because I watched so much Lifetime. I definitely think it happens less now just because they do like the matching bracelets and like things like that. But I had a really hard time after I had Isaac, I needed him to go to the nursery because I was so tired. And I just had a hard time breastfeeding right away and things like that. So like in order to like rest, I needed, I just needed that time. But I can't imagine what it would feel like as a mom to know that your baby got switched and then not being able to do anything about it or just knowing that your baby was switched and having to go through the process

of trying to locate your baby or just not knowing. Okay. So actually, this is like a hypothetical situation. And I've had this conversation with someone in my real life about if you, if your child like got switched at birth, and you were raising another child to let's say like they were five years old. And then you find out that your child, that your kids got switched. Would you rather keep the child that you had been raising for five years or have your biological child back? I, based on the five year situation, I want my biological child back. I would love to know from listeners what you would choose. I think if I didn't know, if I didn't, if I didn't know that the child was switched and I had raised this baby

as my own, I would be so pissed off and hurt and damaged by the fact that like this baby that didn't belong to me that I raised as if they were my own. For five years, I would be so emotionally invested that that would be so hard. Yeah. But I also would want my own child. Yeah. Cause I still feel like five, when you're five years old, you still have they're pretty much their whole life ahead of you. But also like that is your biological child, whatever like routines and like things that they're used to can still kind of be changed. But Tyler on Team Mom OG made a good point last night. He said parenting is kind of a double-edged sword, right? Because you don't really know what you're going to get until,

you know, they're adults and it might be too late, right? Like, so in this case, if they're five years old, like you still have time to undo anything that the other family did. Do you know what I'm saying? Like at five years old, you still have, not saying that if my child, there was something wrong or like they weren't a good kid or something when they're an adult, not saying I wouldn't want them. I'm just saying like it would be that much harder to accept things that went wrong that you could have probably prevented had you raised them instead of the other family or whatever that may look like. 100%. Okay. So I need everybody to tell me what you would choose because I guarantee you there's going to be people that are going to say exactly opposite of what we just said.

Before we go, just because these ones are time sensitive, I wanted to mention two things. We don't have to go into it, but maybe just like let you guys know that there is a rumor that Drake has. Let's get into it, actually. Let's do it. Okay. Okay. So there's a rumor that Drake had sex with an Instagram model and she, he wore a condom and when he took it off, went to the bathroom and allegedly put hot sauce in the condom. So when the woman went to the bathroom to try to extract the semen and put it inside of her, it burned. And so she's trying to sue Drake for this. We don't have to get super into it. I wonder how much truth there is to this because I just feel like I can't see Drake saying, oh, let me put hot sauce in my

condoms because this will kill the sperm. And I don't know if there's like research on that. Would hot sauce in fact kill sperm? Couldn't we think of like something else other than like maybe like cold water and like rinse it out and then like put it in like, I don't, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I don't know, rip the condom, pour it out, and then like throw it away. Like throw, like cold water, because I feel like warm water could probably thrive a little bit longer. But like cold water is just my theory. I'm no sex expert, but like, wait, wait, wait, wait, why not like have an understanding before we're having sex with these IG models that there's like something written in stone that if you shadily do this, then like I am not a part of this. Like who goes to

the bathroom? The women just don't do that. Like it's as a woman, like you're so fucking foul to take a trap, like a condom out of the trash and try to empty it into yourself. Like you are a trash person for that. Like you're so foul. Like I don't even, that is so disturbing and you need help and I don't feel bad for you and I just don't. Like I hope that you get the help that you need because that is so foul. Yeah. That to me is just we should be more concerned about the idea of this person doing that and less concerned about the fact that he's drenched his condoms and hot sauce. Yeah, for real. Like at least he's trying. He's trying to like look out for himself. I mean, let's, you know, let's, let's give him props for wearing a condom because I feel like

plenty of celebrities just have sex with women and impregnate them and it's not like, like I'm pretty sure Drake got one pregnant, one woman pregnant and he didn't really know her. Same for Tristan Thompson. Same. You know what I mean? Like you're wearing a condom. Awesome. I'm proud of you. For sure. What was the other thing that you needed to tell us? Okay. The other one is really, really sad, but I wanted to bring it up only because my friend told me about it and she's from Hobbs, New Mexico. So I was like, oh, wow, like super, super, super small town. An 18 year old New Mexico mother is freed on $10,000 bond after being charged with attempted murder for tossing her newborn into a dumpster where he was found alive hours later. She said

that she didn't know she was pregnant until the day before and the father is considered a juvenile. So it says that a security camera caught the moment a woman abandoned her newborn baby in Hobbs, New Mexico on Friday. The baby boy was found alive and crying inside a garbage bag six hours later. The infant was diagnosed with hypothermia and given oxygen and a blood transfusion. Alexis Avila 18 confessed to putting the baby in a trash bag and throwing it in a dumpster. The teen has been arrested and charged with attempted murder and child abuse on Monday. She claimed that she didn't know she was pregnant until the day before delivering in her parents bathroom. She was released less than an hour after her arrest on $10,000 bond and will be

arraigned at a later date. She could face up to only 15 years in prison, depending on what the charges ultimately are. I have absolutely no words. There are literally places that you can go drop your baby off with no punishment. Isn't the fire department like one of them? I'm pretty short, like, I mean, let's be, let's be clear here. Even if that isn't one of them, that would have been better than to throw it in a trash can in a dumpster. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm only speaking as someone who was a teen mom. Yeah, it's fucking terrifying and you're scared and you don't know what the fuck to do. But now you have this human. If you are not capable and you're not in the right state of mind, I'm going to go try to drop it off at the fire department or I'm going to go try to

drop it off at the hospital or a church and see what the fuck happens. If that is not the right place, somebody is going to help me place this baby where he or she needs to be. It is not, I don't understand this like, and I am, there has to be mental illness involved here because I cannot understand as someone who was a teen parent, someone like just rationally doing this. I can't imagine someone thinking that that was normal and acceptable behavior to literally birth a child, put them in a bag and put them in a dumpster alive. Like what? You never, you didn't think to just go to the hospital and be like, I just gave birth. I don't know what to do. I don't think that I can handle this baby.

Please place this baby up for adoption. I don't know how that works, but like, please help me. I'm not ready for this. I don't want to do this. And I'm sure there are people like dying to adopt a newborn baby. Like I'm pretty sure there are plenty of families who would have been like, Oh my God, we got a last minute call that there's, I mean, I don't know. I'm not sure about like the adoption world, but like, I'm sure that leaving it in an inside of a church on a church pew would have been better than trash. 100%. Would also love to know what our listeners think about that as well. So guess what? What? Act like I was going to tell you something really exciting, but I'm not. You are coming to Atlanta this weekend. Yes, I am leaving at 6am tomorrow.

I'm going to go stay at the airport hotel tonight. Thanks God, because you never play. Well, I don't know what hobby was thinking. I typically don't fly before 10am just because I'm not a morning person and trying to like get all my ducks in a row. I just, it just is not a thing for me. So it was not, it was just like a very dad thing to do, especially because we can't check into the hotel until 3pm. And I think we land at like 9am. So I'm not really sure what the um. Everyone's coming to my house. Imagine I show up with like 40 people because there's a huge like football team and all their parents. I'm like, Hey Lindsay, like I thought we could hang out here for a little while until we could check into our hotel. And I'm like ma'am, I don't know you. I've

never seen you before. And why the fuck is Jose at my house? Surprise. No, but I hope I hope I get to see you because I would love to see you. We have a pretty open day on Friday and I'm pretty sure we have an open day Saturday morning up until 7. So like I would love to see you on Sunday. And then we leave Monday night, I think. I'm pretty sure that my day is pretty open on Friday as well. Yeah, it is actually. So we might be getting up on Friday. And maybe we'll do some like Facebook. I said Facebook, Instagram live with Jose. Oh, that would be fun. I'm down to do that. I'm down. Okay. Well, I hope that you guys have enjoyed this bullshit as much as we enjoy tweeting to it. Um, if you guys have not subscribed to us, make sure you do that on the

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