Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 25: Teen Mom Makeup Drama, Lindsie’s Car Accident, & the 911 Operator

Episode Date: April 26, 2018

Kail & Lindsie have a late night chat about Lindsie's car accident & why Kail's baby daddy, Chris Lopez, is dying to come on @CoffeeConvosPodcast. They discuss baby-proofing, a 911 operator hanging up on calls, & Teen Mom drama. This week it was Leah Messer's daughter's makeup. They talk about the upcoming reunion, where they'll interview Chelsea DeBoer. They debate having Farrah's dad on. Kail thinks she had a fire. Wait till you hear what it really was! Plus, Kail finally gets a special w/ MTV. 

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos. It's a late night sesh with Lindsay and I. I have wine, Lindsay. And I don't have wine and I wish I did and I just saw like before we started this on your, was it like your Snapchat or Instagram that Wendy was trying to open the wine with your busted wine opener? Yeah, so my friend Wendy is visiting and she's actually taking pictures of me while I do this podcast because I don't have any like lifestyle and this is my lifestyle. I cannot wait for you to see these pictures. I have a blanket over my, first of all, I couldn't

get the wine open because I don't even know how to open wine. My wine opener is broken. I have a blanket over my shoulders, slippers. So these are going to be some good picks. Kale, literally today I woke up this morning and I looked at myself like on my phone screen and I turned it on like the camera mode and I looked at myself and I was like, yeah, you're just like not prepared to do today. And like I really, I really wasn't. Just go back to bed and start over. Yeah, it's been one of those days and it's, has it been raining at your house in Delaware? Like it has been pouring rain in Atlanta for like three solid days.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's been raining, but it's been like super definitely like gloomy. Yeah. And I'm just kind of over that weather too. So first of all, didn't you get hit by a car yesterday? Yeah. Don't laugh about it. Oh my gosh. So this is so weird and it always happens like when you're in a rush to do something or like you have plans, it's always like something like that happens, but I was super prepared for yesterday. I was working with Ivory Ella and easy kicks and I had like some lifestyle stuff that I was shooting with Jackson and just like a completely full day and I was

super prepared for it and had like gotten all of our clothes ready, had gotten everything ready the night before and I was so prepared that I actually woke up, showered, got everything that I needed to get done, done around the house, got Jackson's vitamins, allergy medicine, like all of that stuff set up, got his clothes out for school. All of this was done before 7am and got him in the shower and I was like, you know what, we're early, like we'll go and get breakfast. So we go to get breakfast and I'm still ahead of schedule, get to the school and there's like 15 minute parking. I don't know like how y'all's preschool parking works, but it's pretty much a disaster, like just a disaster. So I'm waiting for like one

of these 15 minute spots and I'm completely like on the curb, like probably four car lengths away from like every car, literally. And I see this little lady coming out of the preschool and she looked like a grandma and I was like, oh, I see where she's going to the parked car and it was a larger SUV. And I was like, you know what, I'm far enough away from her, but I'm just going to go ahead and like back up a little bit more to give her like extra clearance, but she could have made it like very easily. So I back up and she starts pulling out and she stops and I think, oh, okay, like she's going to go ahead and like turn her wheel. No, then all of a sudden she guns it and the next thing I know, she's literally on the hood

of my car. And I've been making a joke about this wreck for like 24 hours and it's not even funny. Like why am I even laughing about this? It's not even funny. First of all, by your text, I thought you got ran over. Oh my God. Oh my God, Kale. So her car's sitting on the hood of my car at this point. And mind you, I just got another car. Still has the dealer tag on it and less than 500 miles on it and it's already crashed. And she comes up to my window and she's like, so do you want to go over here? And she's completely calm about this, like so collected. If I would have hit somebody, I would have been like, Oh my God, I don't know what to do. Like I wouldn't have even wanted to face them, but she gets out of the car and she's so calm and collected.

I go to like this lower parking lot where there's no one. And it made me feel like she had hit someone in this parking lot before because she knew that it was private property and that like she wouldn't get a ticket. And she also knew that like it would just be us like exchanging insurance information and there would be nothing else to it. So it made me feel like she's either been in a wreck on that property or she's been in a wreck on other private property somewhere else to know all of this. So she knows what to do. Yeah, like she knew exactly what to do. And then she gets in her car and this is the most hilarious part of the story. She gets in her car and she's like calling her insurance company because she claims that she has like an expired insurance

card. And this point the police have gotten there and they're sitting behind both of our cars and I get Jackson out and I just needed to get him into the school. I didn't want him like witnessing all of this. I didn't want his day to be stressful. I was just trying to get him inside the school and remove him from the situation. So, you know, he has impeccable timing with everything and he gets out of the car and the lady's standing in front of my car and you know, apparently now she's an auto repair person because she's assessing the situation and telling me exactly what's going to have to be repaired. And Jackson looks at me dead-faced and goes, so like who's going to jail here? Only out of the mouths of babes. Jackson, nobody's going to jail here other than you if

you don't shut your mouth because I'm now completely embarrassed and I just need to get you into the school. So by the time I get him up to the school, the school has called the security guard like at the school and now they're sending the security down there on top of the police. And this is a 61-year-old lady like she's not a hit and runner, you know, she's just like she couldn't run if she tried. Yeah, she could even run. So I'm just like, oh my gosh. So we deal with all of this and then I go along about my day and call their insurance company and they basically tell me that they've got to determine liability. And I'm like, determine liability. Like your person who's insured through your insurance company

was literally sitting on the hood of my car this morning before 8.30 a.m. So I've already determined who the liable party is. I just need to get this situation fixed so that I have a vehicle that I can drive without like the fender, whatever they call it on the front, like hanging off. So yeah, the car's still wrecked in my driveway and nobody's called me from the insurance company. So I'm just like, you know what, I guess she's going to sit there wrecked like I don't know what to do. Um, you call granny's insurance and you tell them that they need to do something about your cracked car kill like it's so bad that the hood of the car has to be replaced like the whole hood. The Oh, no, no, like the whole bumper thing that goes around is that what it's called like

the bumper, I don't know bumper fender, whatever on the front, like all of that has to be replaced the grill has to be replaced the headlight. She smoked me just throw the whole car away. Yeah, let's start over to buy you a new one. Yeah, 100%. I'm also I've in the eight minutes that you've been telling the story. I've finished almost an entire bottle of wine. Okay, well, Kale, it's not water. First of all, you needed some wine when granny ran over your car. Well, I think granny needs some wine because I called her personally today, because she doesn't need any wine because she's going to get to catch herself a DUI.

Oh, my God, I called her today because the insurance company was giving me such a hard time and they haven't even called me. You called you called her you exchanged phone numbers. Yeah, she exchanged her phone number with me. And so I was like, who was she dropping off her grandkids. And then this is what she said. She was like, you know what, darn it. I knew I should have not let them slept over at my house because this is what happens when I try to do something good. And then I just go and get in crashes. And this ruins my day. I'm sorry, granny. I hope she's all right. Did you at least see if she was okay? She's probably having like a panic attack. Oh, Kale, she didn't even care. It was I mean, it wasn't like flinch.

No, she was so calm. And then when I talked to her today, she was so collected and she told me to like basically like sue her insurance if they didn't like do the right thing and like was telling me like all this advice on what to do. And she was like, you know what, I'm 61 years old. They asked me if I needed my car repaired. And I said, no, honey, I don't need my car repaired. I don't care what my bumper looks like. Oh, granny. And I'm just y'all should keep in touch after this. Yeah, I feel like I found like a new friend. I mean, she'll definitely keep you cool, calm and collected in a in a situation. Oh my gosh. And she was out talking to like nationwide so early in the morning. And that person probably thought, Oh my God, this lady

is crazy. And we need to like drop her policy ASAP. Because I mean, she was just so crazy. And what was she doing driving a large SUV with like a truck hitch on it? That's my question. I mean, yeah, maybe they go camping a lot. Well, maybe she should not be pulling other items if she can't even drive the Oh my God. Well, let's take a few minutes so I can tell you guys about this awesome new luxury fragrance subscription service sent bird. One thing I really like to do is mix up my sense. And actually, I'm trying to find like that one cent that's like for me, like, you know, when someone walks by and you just want to know, you just know who it is. You're like, Oh, I know who that is. Yeah, that's me. Yeah, I don't have a scent. Like I've tried

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I got Botox on my armpits. Oh my gosh, did it hurt? No, they numbed you. They numbed me. I just don't want to stink. Do you stink? Are you like a smelly person? No, I mean, yeah, I guess. If I felt like I needed Botox, I'm a little sweaty. This wine is making me hot. This wine's making me hot. No, I think you're just getting drunk. I don't, I'm not a drinker, but you know what? After I don't know, it's just been pure chaos, I think since Sunday. Well, and didn't you like do something at your school today? Uh, I, yeah, I was on this like panel for my school to speak about dating in college and I was not prepared, I feel like. Well, Kale, that is the standard for you. I feel like

not being prepared. That's like regular shit for me, I guess. Yeah, that's just like pretty standard. So it was about dating in college. Yeah. And I think that, um, nobody can relate to me at my alma mater because not many people that I went to school with have kids and like were non-traditional students. A lot of them were traditional students, although I did learn that my college was like a 61 to one ratio, girls to guys, 61 girls to one guy. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Maybe that's why all the girls were like with Chris. Oh, oh, oh, let me catch you up on that. Speaking of him, he's dying to come on the podcast, and I really feel like we should have him on because this is the first interview he will

ever have done. Oh my gosh. Well, so, and he said it will be his only. So if we want to grill the shit out of him, interview the shit out of him, this is the first only last time he's ever going to do an interview. Well, he says that until he does it, right? And then he's going to want to do it again. So just like hobby. He hasn't up until this point. He hasn't up until this point. Yeah, but I think that he's I give him credit and I respect that he was is willing to come on our podcast. You know what I mean? Like he could have gone to any magazine, radar online and done any type of interview, but he's going to do it for us for free. But is he is he doing it to like beef with you? Or is this like an amicable thing or I think it's like we're going to try to start to like

respect each other and just like co parent and be like on really good terms. Okay, well, then I could like be down with that. If I can help facilitate and like have a conversation with him and y'all be normal. I think the only thing Chris and I have in common are he's a Falcons fan. Yeah. So we can ask him about the Falcons and I'm sure he'll respond. Yeah. So maybe we should like start off and just like tread very gingerly to like, you know, get him involved. But I hope that like we don't bring people on the podcast to try to like grill them or I want to know, I want him to speak. He an entire season of Teen Mom went by and people only heard my side. They know nothing about his side. And he said he's willing to come

clean about everything on coffee combos. Oh, well, I mean, I could be down with it. Is he going to be normal or is he going to just like say that and then just come on and like start screaming at us because then I would be scared. He's very mellow. I don't think he'll scream. Okay. So he, do you think that Lux kind of has his personality? No, because I cry a lot and so does Lux. So if we're being honest, well, Kail, I mean, he isn't one yet. So that is kind of normal for just like his age, I think, and maybe not as much like a personality thing, but well, Chris gets into everything and so does Lux. So I guess it's like a 50 50.

I know I saw that you said that with your other two kids that you didn't have to baby proof. And I so, I so related to your situation with Lux because I could not like turn my back on anything with Jackson. He was into everything. I just don't understand the curiosity because I don't remember it as a child and I don't remember my two others getting into everything. Literally, I have to cover every single outlet because Lux will stick his finger in the outlets. And I mean, he does not need to have crazy or hair. So not at all. Not at all. Did you see that article on the Shade Room about that 911 operator? What? No, you didn't. Oh my God, Kail. I was dying and it's not even funny. Like, again,

I don't know why I laughed whenever I got crashed into. And I'm not quite sure why I was laughing at this, but it was an article and the headline was former 911 operator gets jail time for hanging up on thousands of callers. What? Yes. So apparently what though, like what kind of callers? Well, obviously emergency callers, but apparently this is what happens. No, I wouldn't say they're all emergencies though. I saw on the Shade Room one girl called the 911 for cheese sticks. For cheese sticks. No, this is a different situation. I would for sure hang up on that girl. Well, you would for sure probably facing a misdemeanor because this lady is. So apparently in Houston, they found her guilty of interfering with emergency telephone calls. A misdemeanor,

according to the Houston Chronicle. Chris Shonda Williams was caught hanging up on thousands of people who called for assistance. Back in 2016, Williams was caught after her supervisor noticed that she had thousands of calls that were only 20 seconds long. When police questioned her about this, Williams said that she often hangs up on calls that have not been connected because she did not want to talk to them at that time. Because Williams essentially neglected her duties, it cost a few lives. In March 2016, a woman called to report shots fired at a convenience store, but Williams had hung up the phone and the store owner and then it like goes on. You have to like click into the article to find out all of the details about what was going on. So what was, what was

she thinking? I don't think, I don't see how you can be a 911 operator and like have the mentality of I don't feel like taking this phone call right now. Like this isn't your personal cell, like are you personally 911? What the actual fuck? Like could you imagine? I mean, I think it's kind of funny like talking about it because it's just kind of bizarre. But what if I was the person that called 911 and needed help and she just decided she didn't want to talk to me that day? That's not a thing. No, like maybe 911 should really be more on top of this and this shouldn't have been going on for a year before they found out about it. That's my other thing. Right, right. Like where was her manager, her supervisor like

during all this time? Right, like are you not monitored? I mean, they must not be. Well, I guess they are, but they didn't tap into them to like find this pattern until a year. So like what was the point of monitoring the calls if people are dying because of this lady? Well, I'm glad that yeah, she needs to be charged with something serious. Yeah, so I just, I thought it was funny and then it, you should have read the comments because you know, in the shade room, like the comments are just epic. And it was like a picture of this lady and the comments were like, looks like she hung up on her eyebrows too. And it was just like some funny stuff that was, I'm looking for it. Where is it? Oh my gosh, I found it.

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I have with this. Number one being that Leah's children have nothing to do with David. So David needs to shut the fuck up. Number two, David's daughter cheerleads and there are several pictures of her with her parents and Janelle, whatever with cheerleading makeup on as well. Then we have Janelle praising David for making comments about Leah's daughter's makeup. And then obviously when I see this, I get on social media and tell David to take that energy somewhere else and maybe focus on getting his criminal record expunged. Okay, take that energy that you have and go put that towards something positive because there's nothing but negativity surrounding Janelle and David, right? So Janelle then gets on Instagram live and makes comments about Leah and saying that

Leah came on our podcast and was talking shit about her, which she never did. She literally just stated facts about what an incident that happened. And then she goes on and says that I shouldn't butt into people's drama. Okay, so when I had beef with another castmate, the fifth girl that they added, Janelle, the first thing Janelle did was butt into that drama, right? So naturally, Leah and I have been friends for like nine years. So obviously I'm going to have her back, especially when kids are involved. So is that the drama we're talking about? Yes, this is, this is what I saw. But there was like two different videos that I saw. There was like one one day and then there was like another one that surfaced that was like completely different

footage. So I didn't know if it was from like two different instance, like instances. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's two different. I someone sent me the one on Twitter because Janelle has me blocked. So someone sent me one on Twitter of her talking about Leah, and I came to defend Leah, obviously. And then the second one was her saying something to me about budding into people's drama, but you're not going to talk about my friend's kids. Like you're just not what happened. Like what was the whole deal with the makeup in the first place? I don't understand like what the problem is. David said that I something along the lines of like he can't believe that Corey allowed his daughter to have that much Leah to put that

much makeup on his daughter. Well, what are the do you know what the rules are? Did Leah say what the rules were for cheerleading? Well, it's competitive cheerleading. And I think everybody on the team has that makeup. Right. Well, and I mean, everybody knows that like Leah is obsessed with makeup and like loves makeup. And I think like it would, yeah, it would only be natural for her girls to want it to anyway. Yeah. So I think that it's just, you know, something that they like. And I don't know that it was meant to be, you know, a big deal or anything. She's not walking around with makeup on her face other than cheerleading competitions. But who's first of all, David, you are a grown man, like a grown man commenting on someone else's children

that have nothing to do with you. They live in a different state. They don't know their lives don't affect your life. So to come out and say something like that is just kind of out of left field. Maybe it was just because I mean, I don't know because, you know, I don't follow them or anything like that, or they don't follow me or whatever. But maybe they did it because it was like a form of retaliation against the podcast or something like that. After all the drama had gone on like months ago, maybe it was something that they could attack. I mean, I don't know, you know, I don't know. That's just, but they did. When they went on, when Janelle went on Vince Russo's podcast, and we're talking about me, she did talk about all that already. So the fact that they're still

going on and on and on months later, and it's like, do not bring someone's kids in it. Nobody talks about, I don't talk about her kids. Leah doesn't talk about her kids. Nobody talks about Janelle and David's kids. So why are you talking about our kids? Janelle talked about Lux on Vince Russo's podcast, and then David's on social media. And Janelle has made comments about Leah's kids before. What, like, what about her kids? She made comments a while back about one of the twins. Oh, wow. Like, it's none of your fucking business. Like, I just, I don't even know. I don't know. We have a reunion that you're going to come to, you're coming next month, right? So yeah, I don't know what the hell is going to happen. I don't

know if they're going to have to separate us. I don't know if we're going to have, I don't know how Leah and I can sit in the same room as Janelle. I don't know how that's going to happen. I really don't. Well, didn't y'all make it clear after the last thing that y'all wanted, like, extra security? Somebody said, I feel like that was, like, said somewhere or something like that. I don't know if you said it or if Leah said it. Somebody said it about having extra security or maybe just, like, not being on the stage with those people at that time. And it seems like Chelsea is more so a neutral party to the situation. Like, she's just, like, removed from the drama. I don't, I haven't heard anything. She doesn't, Chelsea obviously doesn't want it, the drama. You know

what I mean? Like, yeah, nobody does. I just feel like at this point, it's not drama between the castmates. It's like, you're talking about our children. And so at that point, I feel like Leah and I probably want to throw hands. Yeah. So they should probably just have the police there in advance. I'm just, it's not worth it. Like, I don't, it's not worth it. You know what I'm saying? So just keep her, keep her away from us. And how do the reunions work? Because, like, what am I going into is the question. A shit show. You're going into a shit show. But the good thing is that we'll record with Chelsea separately on a different day, and that'll be good. It'll be calm. It'll be fun. So I'm not really worried about that.

Okay. Well, I mean, is it like super chaotic? Do y'all have to be in the same room all the time? Or you guys kind of get your own like trailers and stuff? We get our own space. Like, we get our own dressing rooms and stuff like that. And then go out for like segments and stuff like that. But a lot of it's like, hurry up and wait. I mean, you know how production is. It's like, hurry up, go, you have to be here at this time and here at this time and here at this time. But really, you get there and you're waiting around for whatever. Yeah, for however long. And it takes no time to really film it. Right. That's so crazy. So after this, y'all will be done filming for the season. Like that's your last thing that y'all do. Yeah. And have they, have they said if they're like

picking all up for another season or y'all don't know? No word yet, no word yet, but hopefully we'll know soon. Yeah. And will Janelle and David both be there or nobody knows really? Nobody knows. Nobody really knows. So I guess it'll all be a surprise to everyone at the same time. Wow. That's just so any who. Yeah. So that's all the team mom drama that I know of. Well, that's, that is enough, I think. I don't know how much more could, could be. Possibly go on. Yeah. Are your exes both going to be at the reunion or they're not? None of my baby daddies are to be at the reunion. I've heard, I've heard. Yeah, I think Joe doesn't want to go for reasons not that I, that I'm not aware of. And then hobby doesn't want to go.

I'm pretty sure because of the Brianna drama. And then Chris obviously isn't going because he doesn't want anything to do with team mom. So yeah, I just don't think any of them are going to be there. Wow. Which I will say if hubby's not there, I think that that is, that's the one time that he won't be on camera when, you know, hubby loves his camera time and will do anything to be in front of a camera. But the fact that he is basically bitching out at a time where I feel like he needs to speak the fuck up, I am a little salty because if he gets out of going to the reunion and I have to deal with Brianna and that drama by myself, I'm not going to be a happy camper. Well, so how exactly does that work? Because I completely forgot about all of that drama until

you just brought that up. So it's like the Janelle stuff on one side and then the Brianna stuff on one side. So will they like put them on one couch? Right. That's what I'm hoping. But will y'all have to be on the other couch like at the same time with them out there? That's what I'm wondering. I wish I had answers. SOS, we need answers. Yeah. MTV, if you're listening. They will after this, after this podcast, and they're probably gonna be mad at me. Give us answers because inquiring minds want to know. Want to know. Okay, I'm really excited to stop and talk about one of our favorite things, bio clarity. One thing I've learned is that it's really important to maintain a routine to keep healthy habits consistent in order to get glowing skin. Bio clarity has

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have him on the podcast? Yeah, I thought, I mean, his email was so nice to me. And I thought that he was being like a smart guy. Yeah, on Twitter, I guess is what it was, because you said that he had tweeted you. So I went to look for it when I saw it. I thought it was kind of condescending. But then in his email, he said that it wasn't like that at all. So I'm not quite sure if he wants to come on the podcast and discuss like the fairest stuff or what exactly he wants to discuss on the podcast, because in order for you to come on the podcast, you have to have content that's relevant for people to want to hear. So if he doesn't have a plan, I'm sure he has a plan. Everybody in the Abraham family has some type of plan. I say we have him on. So I'm like, is this to attack? Like

what, you know, what exactly is going on? Because I'm confused. Well, we're about to figure it out. We should get, okay, so I'm going to tweet right now at Michael. I'm nervous. I'm about to tweet him while we're recording. So stand by. Tell him that I got his email and I was afraid to respond back. Lindsay got your email. Do you still want to join us for coffee combos? Yes. No, I'm giving him a poll. And I'm not sure if it's like to discuss MTV stuff because I know that, you know, Farah had like settled her lawsuit and well, Leah, will Farah even allow him to be on our podcast? Is the real question? Oh, is it? Do they like have control over each other like that? All right, hold on. Let me put out a poll. Do y'all want to hear from at ecum

on coffee combos? I'm making this one a poll and then I'm going to make a crisp poll too. Oh my gosh. Well, we need to hear from the people. Yeah, we need to hear from the people and see what they want to hear about. Kale, can I tell you that I was doing laundry? This is like on a completely unrelated note. I was doing laundry and I was kind of like in a rush, you know, like when you get to doing housework and then it's like, you know, that you need, you have something else going on down stairs. You need to get down there quick and like keep moving. Yeah. So my laundry room's upstairs. So I was upstairs putting on a load of laundry and I had on some slippers and when I went to walk down the stairs, I literally fell down my entire staircase. Oh good. How'd that feel?

I think I'm dead. I'm sorry. You're laughing at your pain. And I'm glad that I didn't get Shrek Rinder, whatever her name is, Williams from 911. I'm glad that you would have to call her. She would have hung up on your ass. She would have hung up on me. I mean, I probably should have called the fire department. Like, first of all, the fire department for what? I mean, that probably would have been the better bet for me to get help. Like, don't you call the fire department? I call them once. For what? Because I just have this like overwhelming fear of like something happening in the house that I don't know. Like, for example, if you have like an electrical fire in the walls, like you don't know, you know what I'm saying? You won't know until

it's like almost too late. So one time I kept smelling like this over I kept smelling this like overwhelming like burning smell and I immediately thought, okay, I'm we're having an electrical fire in the walls. So I call the fire department and it turned out to be like a plastic spoon melting in the dishwasher. Like, oh, okay. So they're like, please remove yourself and your children, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they were kind of like, you are a waste of time. Oh, my gosh. So they came all the way out to your house and it was a plastic spoon burning in the bottom of your dishwasher. Yeah. So there's that. Oh, my gosh. I I I do stupid stuff like that all the time. And I wonder if people think I'm stupid. So 53% of voters are saying yes, they want to hear

from Michael. And 63% of voters are saying yes, they want to hear from Chris. Okay, well, then that's more than half. So I guess we do it. We just have to plan it's crazy because like right now schedules are so crazy. What is your kid's schedules right now with school? When do they get out? So I think Lincoln only goes to preschool from 915 to 1215, which is kind of like weird. And I wish it was a full day because it's hard to like do anything in three hours. And then Isaac goes to school from he gets on the bus at 750 and then he gets off the bus at 345. So and then Lux goes to Chris for his own schedule. So it's just nuts and then sports. And then I know Jackson has his own schedule plus baseball plus your stuff. So it's hard to like get Oh, speaking of like what do you think

that like people want to see more of on Instagram? Our children. Yeah, I think our kids too, because people keep requesting to have our kids on the podcast and let's Jackson dying to be on the podcast. He tells everybody that will listen to him that I have a podcast and they should listen to it. So we should probably technically be paying him for his job of being a promoter. Well, my kids don't even believe I have a podcast. So well, Jackson thinks he has a YouTube and he clearly doesn't have a YouTube. I put that stuff on my Instagram story and he thinks it's being loaded to YouTube. So let him think that. Yeah, but he he's just so funny and he's like, oh, I know you've got to be podcasting tonight with Kale. It's going to be a long conversation.

At least he knows my kids said what radio show what podcast you don't have that you don't have a job. I said, okay. Okay, guys, like, wow, I saw that you and Wendy have been busy like decorating your house, by the way. Okay, I'm pretty sure that I got an hour special. So we're just like making sure that the house is all perfect and like anything that I was missing in the house is set in its place. And so Chelsea had her episode of like her and Cole's love story and Janelle had her ex files. And I don't know if I'm allowed to say, but I'm getting I'm doing a special as well. Well, and Javi had being Javi, right? So yeah, yep. Yeah, it would only be fair for for you to get one. But I feel like your house is like so put together now. And don't you feel

good about it? Yeah, like if you came over, I wouldn't feel judged at this point. But like as Wendy a decorator, like I'm confused, she's not she just decorates really well. And so she's been helping me and throwing things together for me and like really work it because I have this blue chair that I did my book cover on. And I really only got the chair for the book cover because Wendy also took my book cover pictures. And I didn't know what to do with the chair afterwards. So I like literally put it in the garage and I was going to give it away. And then she was like, no, don't get rid of it. So we did the baby, she did the baby's room. And she really just worked with what we had. And the chair was one of it. And she made one of them. And she like made it all come

together. Oh my gosh, the baby's room looks so cute. Well, I didn't do any of it. So it looks so cute. Is he still like going to be in his crib for a while? Or is he fuck yeah, he has to because I can't I did the two year co sleeping with Lincoln thing. And then I never he still asked me to sleep in my bed. So I just can't I can't. He means Lux is good in his crib. Jackson still takes naps with me and he's five. Oh, see, that's cute. And I'm just like, I couldn't imagine what my naps would be like without Jackson like I'm, I'm as dependent on like him as he is me. But that's cute though. Naps are okay. I'd be fine with that. Actually don't mind napping with my children. But like sleeping, I already don't sleep well at all at

night. So I kind of just need the night. Why don't you sleep well? I don't know. I used to be on Ambien, but it made me do weird shit. So I came off Ambien. Like, yeah, what did you do when you were on this drug? I mean, I mean, it is a drug, but I'm not on drugs. I wasn't ever on drugs. Yeah, like a lot of people take it like a lot of people take sleeping medication because they can't sleep. But like, what were you doing that was so weird? I would still wake up on it. And I would like call people and like, oh, my God, like, roam the house. I think one time I like, I don't know, as copy I used to do weird stuff. So we were like, okay, it's definitely a unanimous decision that I come off of this. And then now I just

go to sleep. I try. But are you just like restless when you're sleeping or? Yeah, I wake up a lot. I toss and turn. I mean, I just know I have a hard time like falling asleep. I have a hard time staying asleep. And then in the mornings, you know, I'm waking up at 6 30 and I still don't feel any better. Like I don't feel like as if I slept. But at this point, it's like, I don't I see how like pills are so addictive. And like, I just don't want anything to do with them. Yeah, I mean, I've never been like a I have really bad anxiety. And I don't take any medication or anything like that for it. Because I could definitely be prescribed anxiety medication. Actually, I went to the doctor and they told me that it would definitely help me. Yeah. But

I just refused to take any type of medication because you're dependent on that. And I should be dependent on myself, not on that. So I just never have done that. And you just have to like figure out coping mechanisms and not that I cope well all the time. But I find myself in situations where I like have learned to handle situations that took me some time to like get there. I mean, I noticed that when I am working out consistently, daily, I sleep better, maybe not through the night, but I definitely sleep better. Also, I just kind of feel like I don't have like a regular day to day, you know what I mean? Like it's kind of chaotic. And if I don't put stuff on my calendar or I don't do like certain things throughout the day, like I'm restless, you know

what I mean? So like I'm, I need to try to be more organized. So it's not like my mind isn't racing like what I'm trying to go to sleep. I mean, I'm not saying that other moms who have, you know, nine to five jobs or like, you know, actual careers or whatever that they don't have restless nights too, because I'm sure they do. But I think a lot of that goes back to being like an entrepreneur and knowing like, okay, I have X, Y and Z that I didn't do today that was scheduled to do today. And you're just like constantly sitting there thinking about that. And like, when are you going to get it done? And that's stressful. Exactly. I agree. I constantly do that. I'm all the time doing that. And I'll be laying there and I'm like, Oh my gosh, if I go to sleep right

now, and I don't get this done, then that means it's going to be one extra thing that I have to do tomorrow. So I might as well just like stay awake and do it and do it. Yeah. Yeah. So then it's like marked off my list. I get it. But maybe since you drank wine tonight, maybe it'll make you sleep. That's what I was thinking. Also, I got this like crystal thing. And I feel like these like crystals are super like healing and positive. So I feel like maybe that'll help too. Like you're rubbing crystals, like what? I'm not repping them. I just, I bought it. No, rubbing them. Rubbing. Oh, I'm not rubbing it, but I it's definitely in my home. I have a couple crystals in the house now. So I feel like and like you feel like it brings good energy or

is this a myth? Yes. Yeah. And I'm just like trying to be more in touch with like nature. Kale, you've been trying to be more in touch with nature since you met Mr. Jamaica. I think it dates back to Spencer Pratt with the with the crystals and the hummingbirds. Oh my gosh, I know. Are we going to get them on the, we need to get him on the podcast. I know. I know. The hummingbird thing is so funny to me. I'll tweet him too. The hummingbird is so funny because I really want him to talk about it on the podcast. So I'm about to send him a DM. Didn't you want to have hummingbirds like at one point? Yeah, I'm gonna, I am, I'm gonna have them. Spencer. So I have a feeder. I have a feeder and I have like three

hummingbirds that come like, but they only come certain times of the year. Yeah. So like in the summertime, like it's getting close. It just hasn't, the weather hasn't been consistent enough for me to like put my feeder out yet because it just hasn't been warm enough. But as soon as I put out my feeder within maybe like a day, then I'll start seeing them and they all look very different. There's like ones that are bigger and then there's one that's like really, really super tiny. So I'm wondering if it's like a different like type of hummingbird. But yeah, they're so cute when they come out there and they just come to my back porch and as long as you have the food out there, then they come. And I noticed that Spencer, Spencer like makes his hummingbird food. Yes.

Homemade. Yeah, that's why I want to know about it. I want him to teach me. And I told my landscapers I would like to put in, I think I talked about this on the podcast before. I really want to put in like a bird bath and some feeders so we can get some, some birds. I also just don't want to clean up bird poop. So hopefully that isn't a thing. Well, but our hummingbirds, they like take bird baths, like I'm not sure if they do. They're just like so tiny. Oh, they're not like a regular bird, you know what I mean? They're just, they almost look like a parakeet or something like they're just like so little. Okay, well, it's been great. It's been real. Everybody let us know about if you guys want to hear from Chris, if you guys want to hear from Michael, Spencer Pratt and Heidi

Pratt, they also have a podcast. So we should get them on. And if you guys want to hear from any of them, just tweet us or drop a comment on Instagram. I'll just update you on my sleep tonight since I had about four glasses of wine. Good. Good. I would be drunk by now. Great. Yeah. So I'll I'll let you guys know how that is and tweet us and let us know and we'll talk to you guys next week. This podcast is brought to you by Wave Podcast Network. Check out all of our shows, including the Brain Candy podcast, I Don't Get It, Babes and Babies, Coffee Convos and Let's Talk About It.