Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 3: Birthing Stories, Baby Names, Potty Training, and Chicken Wings

Episode Date: November 16, 2017

On this week's Coffee Convos Podcast, Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley talk about their birthing stories, how they named their kids. What their kids dressed up as for halloween & how Jackson & Lincoln really love getting into their characters. They talk about chicken wings & how Kail doesn't understand the various names & why she doesn't eat chicken off a bone. Kail drops a dating bomb that you will not want to miss & Lindsie talks about how she didn't kiss her first real boyfriend for 6 weeks. Potty training & what that is like being boy moms. Ending with a quick fire round of listener questions! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Hey guys, it's Kail and Lindsay and we're back with coffee combos and we have a bunch of fun things to talk about today. What's up, guys? We are going to talk about our birthing stories and a bunch of other fun stuff. Kail and I were talking about giving birth last week and how different our stories were. Well, we have one similar story. I only have one birth. But I think it was similar to Lincoln's birth. Yeah. My birth with Jackson was very similar.

to Kail's birth with Lincoln. And then your other two experiences were completely different. Yeah. So go ahead. Choose like whichever. Okay. I'm going to tell Isaacs was like super intense. I was so young and I didn't know that I was in labor.

And so when my water broke, I thought I peed my pants. And I actually got out of bed, cleaned myself up and went back to sleep for a couple hours. And then I started to feel like crampy. Went to the hospital. Well, went to the doctor. going to go to the hospital. Wasn't the hospital that I was planning to deliver at. Oh my God. Could you imagine if that was me? Yeah. You would have been like, this isn't what I planned for.

Yeah. But I was like going with the flow. And then I had been in labor with him for 13 hours. They had to use like the vacuum to get him out. I like was pushing for forever and he wouldn't come out. Is that like the same thing as like forceps? Or is that different? I think they're like the same but different if that makes sense. So like was his head damage when he came out? I wouldn't say damage but it was definitely misshaped for sure. Like cone shaped right? Yeah. Because they used like a suction or something.

Not pretty. Yeah. So it took a long time to get him out and like I don't know. 13 hours was a long time. I felt like to be in labor. Yeah. I feel like that. Well, I mean like you were pushing for that long.

No, I was in labor for 13 hours. Totally. Pushing. I was pushing for like at least an hour. Like it was a hard time for me. Yeah. And you were 16? 17. 17 when you had him. Okay. So you got pregnant at 16, having been 17. I could not imagine like what. I didn't know what I was doing. I was a senior in high school at 17. Like I couldn't imagine having a kid at that time. Yeah. That's crazy. Insane. And like even as like a grown woman, you know, like I felt like I went, I did high school, then college, then got married, then had a baby. And I feel like if I would have had a baby, and I feel like if I would have had,

had a kid at 17, I don't know what I would have done. I don't even know how I got so lucky because, truthfully, I think it's because of Joe and his parents because my parents weren't really there. My mom signed off custody of me as soon as she found out it was pregnant. So you were like emancipated? No. Well, Joe's parents had custody of me. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So if it wasn't for them, I would have been like for sure on the streets. That is so crazy. Yeah. Wow. So my labor was what you would say, like, I guess, a textbook labor, like, in the sense that it was, like, very smooth. I mean, I went into labor at 34 weeks and then did, like, the steroid shots, the crazy 40 ultrasounds

to make sure, like, everything was okay. I had steroids. He had steroids so that his lungs were developed. I was in the hospital for three days. And then went home, was on bed rest, went on a medication, took it until the 37th week. That was the last time I could take it. And then after the medication got out of my system, I automatically went into labor. And Will said, I think this is just like a fake out. No, this is the real deal. And he was like, I don't really feel like, I don't feel like going back to the hospital. And sitting there for three days for them to tell you you're not having him, it's not 40 weeks, you know.

And I think it's like such a misconception. Well, I feel like all guys are like, oh, 40 weeks. Like nothing can happen until 40 weeks. but they don't understand that 40 weeks is like an estimated time. Like you could go in at 39 weeks, three days and still be full term. And the crazy thing is, is like I'm such a planner. So whenever I found out that I was pregnant with Jackson, I knew like literally down to the day that I conceived. So I knew that before I went even to have my first ultrasound.

Like I gave them the day and they were like, whoa, you were like spot on. Like I knew exactly the day. And so, yeah, it was crazy. So pretty much went into labor at 37 weeks. And then it was like kind of normal. Like my whole laboring part was normal other than the fact that we had some hiccups on the way to the hospital. What are hipups? Like, well, first he said I wasn't in labor.

And then for sure was. I was like in a ball on the bed. Like I had never felt like that before. I mean, I labored at 35. four weeks, but this was like, great. I mean, it hurts so bad. And I was like, in my brain, I was like, if this is not better in five minutes, then I'm going to the hospital.

Like, I don't even know, like, why I thought, like, five minutes it would be better. But I went, I was like, no, like, this is crazy. So I think something, like, sparked in him. And he was like, oh, my God, we probably should go to the hospital. And so then he started panicking. So then I was like, oh, my God, it made me more scared. And he started grabbing the car seat and, like, all the stuff because we didn't, you know, we were like waiting for 40 weeks. Did you have like a, like a, no, I had nothing packed. Oh my gosh. I,

with all three of mine, I had something packed like way before. Yeah. See, and that isn't that weird that I'm such a planner? Yeah, but you didn't have anything packed. Like your hospital bag. No, because I had like on my calendar. I had like Jackson's being born like on the day that they told me that he was going to be born. But that wasn't even a thing. I know. Like it wasn't even a thing. So yeah, it was just weird. And so we. get in the car and of course it's raining driving down the road and I'm like oh awesome like why does it have to be raining and it's pitch black outside and then he misses the exit and then we get there and they check me and they're like yeah you're definitely staying you're having a baby and I was like awesome I'm glad because I don't want to do this for a second time and then it was pretty peaceful they gave me medication and I slept and then my doctor came in my water never broke on its own

They broke it for you. They broke it for me. She came in, did all of that. And then it was like a few hours later, I literally went from, you know, I dilated, did all of that stuff. And it was very like normal, you know, like the whole, it was like she came in and checked me and she was like, you're right where I want you to be. And then she came in and checked me again.

And it was like I was progressing the way I should have progressed. And then she came in. I pushed for 45 minutes. and then he was out and I had a six pound, 10 ounce. All of perfection. Yeah, perfection child. So it was very, like, nice. That's how Lincoln's was.

I couldn't really, I can't really say anything about my birth with Lincoln other than it was longer than the first one. Yeah. You know, they say, like, the more kids you have, the shorter labor usually is, but Lincoln was two pounds bigger than Isaac. And so he was definitely the one that had the longer labor. So he was like eight pounds? He was eight pounds six ounces. Oh my God. Yeah, he was huge.

He was so hairy. But it was very quiet. Like I didn't, there was no yelling, no talking. Like I wanted it to be like really peaceful when he came into the world. And it kind of was like the perfect labor and delivery. Lincoln's was. Wow. And then Lux was, I was wanting to push in the car on the way to the hospital.

Oh my gosh. My water broke at 1.30 a.m. And they couldn't even get the IV in my. my arm to for me to give birth. My doctor never made it. My water obviously broke at home. And he was born at 3 a.m. on the dot. So an hour and a half start to finish. So your water broke all three times. My water broke. Yeah. So with Isaac, it broke like five-ish a.m. And I clean myself up and went back to sleep because I thought I peed. Lincoln's, it broke while I was in labor, but already in the hospital. But they didn't have to break it for me. And then with Lux, it broke at

1.30 in the morning, it, like, literally smacked on the floor. Oh, my gosh. Like, I was going to the bathroom was going to go pull up my pants. And it just smacked on the floor. Like, it was like water gun, water balloons. Like falling out. Yeah, basically. Oh, my gosh. I would have had a heart attack. I literally would have had a heart attack. Yeah, it was. I'm so glad my water didn't break on its own. And it's so crazy because people ask, like, is it like the movies or, you know, whatever? It's nothing like what you would see on a movie. No, yeah. Like, at all. I feel like people who create movies, like, have a computer. complete misconception of what, like, actual labor is.

I'll never forget, like, the nurse when I was giving birth to Lux, like, hit the button on the wall and was like, oh, my God, I need help in here. And I was like, that's really scary. My doctor's not here. I just, like, didn't know. And then I was like, I can't do this without an epidural. And I'm pushing as I'm saying that. And two pushes, he was out. Oh, my God.

Yeah, it was intense. I couldn't have done it without the drugs. Like, I knew. And it's so weird because I'm such like an organ. You know, want to like do everything natural, you know, more natural the better. But when it comes to pain, I'm like, I don't want any of that. No, I don't want to feel it, whatever. Like I knew from, you know, your doctors ask you all those questions.

And they're like, you know, are you going to want to do an epidural? Or you're going to want to do a natural birth, you know, whatever. And I'm like, please give me an epidural like right away. As soon as possible. Like immediately. Yeah. And when they asked me, you know, they said, you know, it's time for you to get an epidural whenever you're ready.

Let us know. I'm like, go ahead and order it. I'm ready. Like I wasn't even in pain I didn't have the option I asked for it with Lux and they There was no time I mean she literally checked me

And I went from 8 to 10 centimeters In her hand Oh my gosh So there was definitely no time I was trying to push in the car on the way I had Chris run three red lights And it was just crazy If someone had a baby in my car

Like I would sell it Yeah I was super upset And my car is pretty much new I just got it So I don't want like Placenta stuff Like leaking placenta Like that's so

weird. Oh my gosh. So yeah, that was our birth story. So that's pretty awesome. It's so funny how like different people can have different stories. Oh yeah. Experiences for sure. Like completely different experiences. So another thing that we were talking about is we just celebrated Halloween. Yeah. And what were your kids for Halloween? Um, Isaac was Kyler Wren from Star Wars and Lincoln was the Red Power Ranger. Red Ranger. Yeah. And Lux was a skeleton. Oh my gosh. That's so cute. So Jackson was three things. Of course, because he's the only child he gets to be like... As many costumes as he wants. Yeah, as many costumes. I'm like, you know, he makes up for not having a sibling.

Yeah. It's three and one. Yeah. Three and one. Exactly. For school, he was flash. Okay. For when he got home from school, I always make him... Okay, so is this weird? When Jackson gets home from school, I make him take all of his school clothes off because it has so many like probably weird germs on there. Oh yeah. And I don't know what they're doing while they're at school. So I make him... I thought you meant you to know what the germs were doing. Well, I mean, I don't know what you're doing either. I make him take all of his clothes off and take a shower when he gets home from school because I don't want the germs like all over my house. Okay. And then I like make him put, he knows like he puts all of his like school clothes and like one hamper.

And I don't want it like touching anything in the house. Yeah. So he comes home, showers, does all of that. And then he was a skeleton for nap time. Okay. Has skeleton pajamas. And then for actual Halloween, he was Lego Batman. And he wanted to make sure everybody knew that he was actually Lego Batman.

Okay. Not just like the regular Batman. And he actually thought people thought that he was Lego Batman. So Jackson's kind of like in this weird phase where he thinks he's everything that he dresses up as. Okay. That's fun. So it's really cute. But it's also like he gets upset if he wears something scary and like somebody doesn't get scared.

Like he takes it really a person. Yeah, like really personal. He's like, they weren't scared. It's like, it's okay, buddy. You know, like that person's like probably 12 years older than you and they like realize that you're not really Lego Batman. He just likes to get into character. Yeah, he really likes to get into character. He really loves it.

He's really into like art and like costumes and like dressing up and like faking like he's something else that he's not. Oh, that's so cute though. Like is Lincoln like that at all? Oh my gosh, Lincoln swears he's a Power Ranger. Like, if you don't think that he's a Power Ranger to him. Like, if you don't call him a Power Ranger, he'll get upset. So, yeah, that's what Jackson's like. And he's like, I'm not, so he went through this phase where he's like, I'm not Jackson.

I am Green Ranger or I am, you know, whatever. And it's like, no, you're not. Like, when I'm talking to you and I'm telling you to do something, you're Jackson, legitimately. Yeah. And speaking of, I keep saying Jackson, how did you name your kids? So I didn't know what I was having for any of my kids. And so with Isaac, it was Joe had said if we were having a boy, I could name the boy and he wanted a girl so bad that if we were going to have a girl, he would name the girl. Okay.

I got the name Isaac from Hansen. Do you remember that man? The oldest brother was, I think his name was Clark Isaac, maybe. And so I love the name Isaac. And Elliot is a singer, Elliot Yammeen. He had this one song that I was like in love with. So I was like, okay, perfect. I love the name Elliot.

So Isaac Elliot. And then Lincoln came from, first of all, I didn't know what I was having with Lincoln either. And I was like, okay, for the longest time, my boy name was going to be Roman. Okay. Why? I don't know. I just like the name Roman. Havi and I watched this TV series on Netflix called Prison Break.

Uh-huh. And one of the main characters is Lincoln Burroughs. So we're like, no. scratch Roman. We're doing Lincoln if it's a boy. We didn't really have a girl name until like three hours before birth. And it wasn't one that we both loved. It was just one that we both agreed on. Right. And then for Lux, Chris and I couldn't agree for nine months, 10 months, 11 months. Lux was just a name that we both like, again, we didn't love it. We mutually agreed on it. And so Lux is light in Latin. So that's where I got that. But Russell is so.

there's um obviously Russell Westbrook yeah and um Russell Simmons and Russell I just feel like it's like a name of like I don't know like they're strong names and they're I don't know they're business people they're wealthy and so like a strong name yeah all my kids have double letter middle names and they all have double L so Elliot Marshall Russell oh that's cute weird I know just very strong strange. Was that like planned? Like did you know, did you try to like stick with that? I never stuck with it until I liked the name Russell for a first name. And my friend was like, but all your kids have L middle names. And I was like, oh, well, Russell fits the middle name theme then. So yeah, it's a middle name. That's really cute. So as you know, I'm a super duper planner. Yeah. So I had names picked out before I was even like when I was trying to conceive. Yeah. Yeah. Even your girl name? Yeah. Like I even, Would you say with a girl? Okay.

I can't tell you my girl name. Okay. People try to steal it. Yeah, that's true. That's if I have another child. Yeah. I don't know if I will, but if I do, I don't want anybody to take it. Understood.

It's a really, it's a cute girl name. I like, were we talking about this other day that I like unisex names for a girl names? No, we didn't talk about that. Yeah. So I really like names that could be like a guy or a girl for a girl. Yeah. I think they're just like strong, you know, like. You know what?

A lot of people have named girls Elliot. Yeah. Or like, I like the name. I'm trying to think. Dylan for a girl. I do like Dylan for a girl. Or Peyton. Payton go either way.

Yeah, can go either way. So there's a few names that I like that are really strong. Like girl names that are different. I think that's really cute. I think that, you know, when she like gets in college or something, that would be like really cool to have like, she would probably be like the only person that like had that name, you know? So yeah, I just picked the name Jackson. I went online and like looked at those like. look books, you know, where it shows like all the names. And I actually really liked the name

Grayson, but my parents used that name because whenever I was 17, they had another little boy. Yeah. And so they used the name Grayson. So that was what I always said whenever I was a little kid. I was like, whenever I grow up, I'm going to have one boy. And then somewhere along the line, I like the name Grayson. And then my parents used it. So I was like, well, obviously, like, I can't name my child the same thing as my brother, so that would be weird. Yeah. And so Jackson was the next name. And then Tyler is his middle name, and that's Will's middle name.

I love Tyler. I think Tyler. Tyler is actually a unisix name too. Yeah, it is. I met a couple girls named Tyler over the years. That's so cool. Which I guess I would have never thought of it myself. Yeah.

But I do like it. It's really cute. Yeah. So that's why I use Tyler as the middle name. My, one of my friends has a baby with her ex-boyfriend's name is Tyler. And when they were having a daughter, he wanted to name her Tyler. And she was like, no, I don't like Tyler, but we could do Ty Lee. So it's Ty Lee.

It's like a playoff of his. It's a playoff of Tyler. But Ty Lee, like I thought that was cute too. So Ty Lee and Tyler. Yeah, that's really cute. Okay. We're going to take a quick break. I want to tell you guys about Wink.

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And you know how we ate Hooters the other night? Yeah. And how you didn't know the difference between flats. Flats and drumsticks. Well, I didn't understand what the turn, where, like, where flats came from. I think it's just because, like, it's a flat piece of chicken. Okay. Okay.

Because I think I would have thought of flaps, like F-L-L-A-P. I know. And I think that's so weird. Like, because it's like got wings. Yeah. I think that's what the wing is. Like, you know, like the wing. So why did you call it flat?

So like your friend Mark said he was like, what about that thing that has like the elbow hanging off? And I was like, that's a wing. Like, that's a wing. Like the elbow hanging off. Like that's so weird. But no, like most of the time, whenever you order wings, you get some drumsticks and then some flats.

But I like to just have flats because it's like the meat is a lot like thinner. And they're usually like crisper than a drumstick. And you said something really interesting about drumsticks, about how they have cartilage on them. Yeah, they do. I wouldn't be able to eat that. That's what makes me gag. Yeah. I think that's why I don't eat meat off a bone is because I had a drumstick once and I was eating cartilage and it made me sick.

Like it made me. Like the texture of it. The texture. Yeah, exactly. I can't deal with that. That's just so nasty. So what was that text that we were talking about? out the other night where I was like a perfect date or something.

Like what were we talking about dating? Dating was like the guy eats the drumsticks and the girl eats the flats. Then it's the perfect couple. Yeah, it's a perfect couple. If the guy, yeah, well in my case, he would have to eat the drumstick because he's not getting any of the flats. Well, I'm dating a girl, so I don't have that problem. And I don't think either one of us eat wings. Neither of you eat wings.

I don't think so. I don't. I don't know if she does. I think she's boneless. Boneless wings. Yeah. Oh my God. I can't do the boneless.

Really? Why? It's weird. It just reminds me of just like a, it's not wings. I mean, no. It's more like a chicken nugget. Yeah, it's like a chicken nugget. Yeah.

For sure. Face it. Like you're not a real wing connoisseur. I'm not a wing connoisseur at all. If you're eating boneless, get out. It's a chicken nugget. Get out though, Lindsay. Really?

Get out. That's so funny. So speaking of dating, so you have a girlfriend. Yeah. And have you all like been on a legitimate date? We, I mean, yes and no. Like we go out to eat. But like it's kind of hard because we have, I have kids.

I have a baby. Yeah. But you said that like you have never been like on like a real date. Got in a babysitter and gone on a date. Yeah. But this is just like this relationship. Like we were friends for a year. And so it just kind of like turned into.

to it so it's not like she was like trying to like wine and dine me to ask me to be her girlfriend. You know what I mean? Like it was like more or less like happened. Just organically. Yeah. Yeah. That's so crazy. Like how they say that's like the best relationships.

Well, so so far so good. I would hope. Yeah. Like the best relationships you start with friends. But I was never friends with Will before. Like immediately it was crazy because when we first met, we met, I met him through a mutual friend. And so when I first saw him, like, I immediately, like, knew there was, like, something there. And it was, like, weird.

I had never, like, felt like that before. So did you guys go on a date, like, an actual date? We used to, like, always go on, like, actual dates. Like, we didn't, literally, like, I didn't kiss him for, like, probably, like, the first two months. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I guess, like, I'm looking at.

Like, how did he even, like, put up with us? He was being a gentleman Yeah, I think he was just being a gentleman But I Yeah, we would go on dates all the time And you didn't kiss No Okay, well I mean everyone's different I guess

Like okay so the first date that We ever I guess like what you would call like Maybe it like wasn't a date It was like a hangout I guess Like we hung out And he had invited me over to his place And Batman had just like come out on DVD

Oh okay Did you watch that? And so we watched Batman But it was funny because he had like a his little living room set up was like two recliners and a like sofa. And so I sat on the sofa and he sat on the recliner. So you guys didn't even sit next to each other. No.

Isn't that weird? But like I'm emotionally like awkward. Yeah. No, I'm awkward in all ways of the word. Yeah. So it's fine. I get it. But isn't that weird?

Like some like he invites me to come over to watch a movie and like. You don't even sit next to each other? Yeah. But that's fine. Look at y'all are married now with a baby. So it worked out. Yeah, it's like, okay, you know? So I just think it's weird because when I hear other people's stories, it's like nothing like mine.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard a story like yours before. Definitely one of a kind. Yeah. And then, like, I never, like, I never wanted to be in the relationship where it was like just go over and like hang out. Yeah, no. Like the Netflix and chill thing, like I can't. Yeah, I've done a lot of that. And I think it's just a waste of time.

And so I just never want to get back to that. And I'm just not that girl, you know? Like, I'm just not, no. That's just not me. You know, it's like, let's go out on a date. Let's go to the movies. Let's go, like, to the park. Let's do something.

Do something. And I'm not coming home with you. See, I'm more of like a group setting. Yeah. Because I don't, I wouldn't know what to do. Even if someone's coming to my house, like my friends are going to be there too. Like, I'm not going to just have you at my house by myself. Like that I don't, how would I act?

I don't even know. It's so crazy because when I started college, a lot of, my girlfriends would be like so like what do you all do and it's like what we did was nothing the same of what anybody else that were like around us did it was almost like we were old you know like we would go to zax fees or like something for to get like chicken and fries and then we'd go and watch a movie or something like that no one else was doing that no I think they were just like hanging out of each other's places or like going out and drinking and then like the drinking thing was never my thing like I was never going anywhere to drink so yeah we didn't do

like the normal thing. Like we were always like a little bit different and I feel like our relationship was totally different. I did not like want to rush anything. I just wanted it to like all happen organically. Organically I guess and just not I guess I had never really had a boyfriend before him. Like I did in high school for a little bit but it wasn't. like a real you know like this was like my first relationship that I guess I could control you know like outside of my parents house so I wanted it to all just happen naturally like however it was supposed to and so we yeah like we didn't kiss for like six weeks or something weird

I don't think that's weird I think that's a good thing it's like you know for once nothing is rushed there's nothing I think that's a good thing and I like I don't know that's how I am with relationships, period. Like, I like relationships that just kind of like happen and, like, grow organically and nothing's forced and like with friendships or, you know, whatever. It's like you just naturally... You either gravitate towards them or you don't. I think in the first six weeks, like, you would have known if you wanted to kiss him instead of, like, kissing too soon. And then it's like, okay, you don't know if that's like... Yeah, but if I would have waited to kiss him until six weeks, then it would have been like a really bad kiss. I would have kind of been pissed that I wasted like six weeks. But yeah, I don't know.

I think we just like really liked each other and I was like afraid of how I felt too. So I didn't want to like rush anything, you know. Which is fair. So if you were going to go on a date, like where would that day be? I don't know. See, I'm like for me, I'm more of like a doing things kind of person. Like I would like to go hiking or go to the beach or stuff like that. I love skydiving.

So if I were to meet someone that is like open to skydiving. diving, like, let's go skydiving. Yeah. Like, we can eat afterwards. Like, I'm, I want to do something cool, something fun, not just go out to eat. See, I like... I'm, like, super insecure. So I wouldn't want to eat in front of someone and, like, stuff my face.

See, I think... But I, like, know that you can, like, get to know someone over dinner. Yeah. But you can also get to know someone while you're hiking. Yeah. I just think that, like, there's zero distraction whenever you're at dinner other than just eating. So I think that it kind of gives you a time to have conversation

And you get to see like what somebody else is going to choose to eat Like what if they're like a super healthy person and you can't live that lifestyle So you would be like, oh, that's a no-go You know? Or like what if they're super rude and talk with their mouth? Yeah then you probably don't want to take them home with you yeah like I feel like that I've heard the saying about like how they treat their mother is how they're going to treat you I've heard that one

but is it true I would say yeah you think it's true sometimes yeah I would say it's pretty true although I have seen like guys in like relationships that are like mama's boys and they're mean to their girlfriend so maybe not I don't know but is that because they're they basically they're choosing their mom they're choosing their mom or their girlfriend yeah okay yeah Yeah. I would want to be with a guy that is close to his mom. Yeah. But not so close. Okay. So there's a happy medium. Yeah, there's definitely a happy medium. When I was with Havi, we, I had my own apartment. I had been living in my own apartment for quite some time, at least a year. And I remember he would like, this was after he met Isaac and he would stay at my apartment and he would leave at six in the morning. And I didn't understand why. Because I'm going to get up with a baby. and make breakfast and we're going to eat. Yeah.

Come to find out, he was leaving at 6 in the morning to go home to his mom who ironed all his clothes, made him breakfast, and like basically still spoon fed him. Oh my gosh. So I was like, okay, I understand that you want to go be with your mom. But also like you're with me. I have a kid. Like basically we're starting our own family. Like this is.

Yeah, you should be doing that at home. Yeah. Like you should be doing that at home. Yeah. So I guess, and, you know, he understood that and eventually came around and we started, you know, we had our own family. But like, yeah, I feel like sometimes though guys don't do that intentionally. It's like a boundary that they have to learn. Yeah.

You know? Like, I can remember a specific situation with Will that used to drive me nuts. And it was like we would go to their lake. And I didn't think it was appropriate to like not be wearing like a shirt around the house. Like, I know it's like just your mom, but I think like it's not appropriate that you wake up and you go upstairs and you don't have a shirt on and you have just like shorts on with no underwear. Like I think that's like not appropriate. Is that what Will? Yeah, Will would do that.

Yeah. And I'm like, you need to understand that like you're a grown man now. Like you go to breakfast. Like you're not like a high school or anymore, you know? Like when you go upstairs and you eat, you put on a shirt. Like my parents would have never allowed my brothers to come to the table with a hat on or without a. shirt ever. That's so funny.

I don't, it's so weird. Like, in certain houses, that's like who nobody would say anything. But then in other houses, it's like, I don't have brothers. I don't have guy cousins. I don't have, I can't relate to that. I know I'm trying to think, like, Joe always wore a shirt. And I want to say Javi never did. Like, Javi would eat at the table with boxers on or shorts on and no shirt.

And I just think that's so weird. Do you think that's weird? I don't know. because I don't have anything to compare it to. You know what I mean? Like I don't have like... Okay, well, let's just put it this way. Okay, if you're boys, because you do have all boys and I have a son.

Yeah. My boys would never sit at the table without a shirt on. But that's because they are terrified of anyone seeing them naked. Yeah. My boys don't. They're very private. Yeah. And so like they won't even come downstairs with like a shirt and boxers.

Like they're putting their underwear on their shorts and their shirt. That's so funny because Jackson is like he won't be... He wants to be naked? If I allowed him 24 hours, seven days a week. Yeah, no, I have friends that have kids like that, but for whatever reason, and I never taught my kids to be that way. That's just how they've always been. They will not, and both of them, which is weird too because... But you're like that?

See, I'm always clothed, but Havi never wears clothes, but Lincoln still wants to be fully clothed at all times. So, yeah, Jackson is very like he would be naked all the time, all the time. My kids just aren't. And you're, you said you're like private, you know, too. Yeah, I just, but Harvey's not. Lincoln's with hobby just as much as he's with me. Yeah. And Lincoln is very private.

Like won't even, and he's a kid, so. So like if you're bathing him, like, is he shy around you or just like other people? No, he's not shy around me, but if anyone walks past the bathroom or anything, it's a no. Yeah. Like you can't come in. Nope. Even if he's putting his jammies on, forget it. That is so crazy.

Yeah. That's so funny. Jackson is literally like, who cares if anybody sees me? I don't care. He doesn't care. No, no. That's so funny. So does your kids, like, this is something that I like ask all people.

How long did it take to get them potty trained? Oh, my God. That's like the worst. So I had a hard time with Isaac potty training. I think I tried to start too soon. And so like he wasn't ready. And so by time I like kind of got him ready, it was just like, I don't know. he was almost four.

See, that's kind of how it was with me with Jackson. Same thing with Lincoln. Literally, Lincoln potty trained the month before I had Lux. So he was, he was three. But you were like, I just had Lux. Like, he's three months old. So Lincoln's only been potty trained since the summertime. And I was like, you're almost four, dude.

You got a potty train. And the one day I woke up and I was like, Lincoln, the baby is coming. And the baby needs your diapers. I said, no more pull-ups, no more, nothing. And he said, okay, and he was fine. Like, he literally never had an accident from that point forward. But it was like the point of waiting until I didn't have to fight with him to go on the toilet. I think it's just like a boundary thing.

You know, like they try to like push that envelope. You know, it's like they know that that's what you want them to do. So they try to not do it. Not do it. Yeah, I agree. And boys are so much harder to potty train than girls too. I heard. Because I know that my niece was potty trained way before Jackson.

was potty trained. Oh, really? And they're like the same age? Yeah, I mean, they're like 45 days apart. So she was potty trained way before him. And I was like, oh my gosh, does that like mean something's wrong, you know, or whatever? Because as a mom, like, you worry about that kind of stuff. You know, it's like, why is, you know, is they're developmentally like? No. And their moms are so judgy. I feel like all different moms. Like you guys, there can be five moms in a room and every single one parents differently. And one of them's potty trained before the other. And now that one that potty trained before everybody else is holier than... And smarter and better and just everything.

So it's... I think it all just depends on the kid and the child and when they're ready. I would definitely tell any mom that wait to potty train your kid until they show interest in wanting to be potty trained. Yeah. Don't try to force it too soon because I promise you you're going to get more frustrated then. Well, because it's so frustrating to like try to put them in the potty and then them not go and it's like they don't understand or they aren't wanting to understand or they aren't wanting to understand or, you know, whatever. And it's so frustrating.

Yeah. Jackson and I would put him on the ear and it was like he would look at me. And then you're frustrated with him because he's not listening to you when really it's just he's not ready. Yeah, he's just not ready. And so I just finally was just like, you know what, he's not ready to be potty trained. And when he gets ready and he starts showing interest in the toilet, then I will tell him all about it, tell him how to do it and all that kind of stuff. But we honestly didn't use like the little potty like very long.

I never used the little potty for any of my, well, I shouldn't say any, but Isaac and Lincoln, they never used the little potty. I put the smaller potty on the toilet. Yeah. Like the smaller toilets in the seat. And that worked out for us. I never used like a little potty or anything. But I mean, if it works for other people, go for it.

Go for it. Yeah. Yeah. That I just didn't really have an issue with it. It was like once he was potty trained, then he just wanted to do the toilet. You know, it was like once he realized he went in the little potty for a little bit. But then once he realized that you just go to the toilet and go to the bathroom, then he had no interest in doing that. He was like, that's a baby potty.

You know, I don't need to do the baby potty. I need to be a big boy, you know, because they want to be grown. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So I have a few questions, and then I'm going to answer them too. Okay. So it's like rapid fire. Yeah.

Okay, cool. And you have to tell me why. Oh, okay. Like why you would choose the answer. Okay. Okay. Puppies or kittens. Kittens because they're self-sufficient.

Okay. So you want something like if you had to have one. But you have dogs. I do have dogs, but I realize how much work dogs are. And like you have to take them out and you have to walk them and you have to feed them and you have to do all of these things. But with a cat, literally you leave the food out and they pretty much eat when they're hungry and they clean up after them. They like clean themselves and you just have to clean their litter box. They go to the bathroom on their own.

They know exactly where to go. Yeah, so see, I would not choose a cat. I've never liked cats. I think cats are spooky. Okay. And their spines freak me out. Okay, the spine thing is a little creepy. It's a little weird.

Yeah. And I'm allergic to cats. So naturally, I would pick puppies. And I love puppies so much. But it's weird because once they're like not puppies anymore, I'm like, uh, you know, whatever. Yeah. But I'm just, I mean, I wouldn't say I'm like not an animal person. I'm like more a dog person than I would ever be a cat person, but...

You're just not like an animal person to have them on your own. Yeah. I mean, I just wouldn't have like 95 dogs or, you know, you know how you have like all those dogs. I wouldn't be able to do that. I know, but that's a lot. It's like a lot of hair to clean and like... And there's a lot of hair and like when I'm away and have to put them in the kennel or like

have someone come take them. That's just a lot. It's a lot of responsibility, especially with kids. So yeah, no. Okay. Next question. Next question. Biggest pet peeve.

Biggest pet peeve. Okay. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people walk into the house and they literally put things right in front of the door. It's my hobby did it so bad. I think my girlfriend does it now. She'll leave her to take her shoes off and leave them right in the middle of the door. Oh my gosh. Instead of like putting it over to the side or just like putting it where it goes.

Yeah. Like don't, you can put it anywhere in my house, but do not leave them in the middle of the doorway because I will trip over them and I will die. Oh, I will die. So my biggest pet peeve is. Let me guess. Chewing with food in your mouth? That is one of my biggest pet views. Okay.

That's one of my biggest pet peeves, but bad manners. Bad manners. Okay, well, I have really bad manners. So why are we friends? My elbows are on the table right now? I don't know. I just can't do the bad manners thing, Kail. Like Jackson, I put him in etiquette and he's only four.

You know, I just... What does he learn so far in etiquette? Like, I mean, right away, I know this is like different in the South than in the north, but yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, sir, no, sir. Like, we instilled that in Jackson. And so it's just, you don't hear that much. anymore. You know, when people give an answer, it drives me nuts when I hear a kid be like, yeah, or like, no, or it's like, no, sir, no ma'am. Like, that drives me nuts. Oh, wow. Okay.

It's definitely a southern thing for sure, because you wouldn't hear that up north. Yeah, at all. At all. Like from adults or kids. But do you make your kids say please and thank you? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. If my kids don't say please and thank you, you're going to say please and thank you. Like, that's one thing that you're going to do. Yeah. So that, that drives me nuts. I didn't put him in etiquette for that, but I put him in etiquette for like, you know, I want him to like learn like proper manners to be like kind to your neighbors and like to be a just friendly person and to learn how to set like a table and like what you would put on a table if you were setting it and all that kind of stuff because I want him to be a gentleman. My kids need to do that.

My kids will clean up after themselves. That's like. See Jackson's the worst about that. I can't like my kids know when they're done eating to put their stuff in the sink. They know when they get home from school you hang up your backpack. can you put your shoes, like, line them up. Those are things that, little things that I, I know that one day when they're married, their wives are going to want them to do that.

And so you're going to do it for yourself. You're going to do it for yourself. You're going to do it for the future because I'm telling you right now, nobody wants to trip over your shit. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know. And I just, I can't stand like a messy person, you know, like I can't do like. I know, like you're.

I'm messy, but I'm not dirty. Yeah, like, but people that like throw stuff all over the, place and like don't i mean don't pick up like that drives me nuts i'm like i have jackson's like all of his stuff in his room is literally actually all over my whole house like is completely organized like my pantry is like completely organized can you come do my pantry yeah okay i need to be like a pantry like organizer i saw um actually saw something recently on instagram i think chloe cardashian was doing like showing hers yeah i want one just like that i could do that okay well let's do that. We'll film it for our next podcast because I want an organized pantry.

And like you can't. Oh yeah. But I get to pick what food goes in. Great. Because then I can be healthy too. Yeah. That would be great. Okay. Next question. What's your favorite color? Okay. Ideally, I would say black. Because I love black. I love the way it looks. It's like my soul. Yeah. But I also know it's not really technically it's not a color. So I would say like color wise, purple. because I think purple. It's like pretty. It's royal. It's, I don't know.

Yeah. Okay. What's your favorite color? Pink. Of course it's pink. I was going to say pink or like that like tealish color, that like aqua blue. I picture you those two colors. Like do you think I'm like like a super girly girl?

Girl. Yeah. Yeah. But I can like I can be both. You know like I can be like girly or like I can hang out and like yeah, I can do like I can to do it all, but if I was going to pick like one thing, it would be like pink everything. Yeah. Okay. I can see that. Okay. And the last question, morning or night? I don't know. I feel like this is a trick question for me because I don't want to get out of bed in the

morning, but I also can't wait to go to sleep at night. But I don't want to wake up in the kids. Yeah. So I would say if I, if the kids were not a factor in this, I would say night. I would say night too. Okay. I'm definitely a night person. And I love my sleep. Yeah, I love sleep. Like I, I could sleep for like days and not be tired of sleeping. Yeah. I mean, I just think that I'm... Like, remember whenever you text me last night, it was like at like 10.30 and I was like already asleep. Yeah. Yeah. And then I was like so tired this morning still whenever I woke up at like 6.45. Oh, once I get my kids to bed during the school days, I guess on the weekends too, but I'm usually in bed by 930, 10, asleep definitely by 11.

Like I'm asleep. Like I'm so, I'm like a tired person. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's always like people think it's weird that I say how like tired I am all the time and it's like I'm tired like all the time. It's what we call mombies, like zombies. A mombie.

We need shirts that say that. Mombie. That's so cute. Well, guys, I think that's it for this week. I'm excited to talk about next week's topics. We got a lot of fun stuff. So make sure you tune in. Actually, next week, I think it's going to be really a really fun podcast because it's like a themed podcast.

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