Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 32: Fan Follow-ups, Dad Babysitting, & Childhood
Episode Date: June 14, 2018Kail talks about her invite to the MTV Movie Awards. We talk about dads "babysitting" their own kids, husbands or bfs with bad manners, & Jackson's expectations for his future wife. Lindsie reveal...s how homeownership changed her. They talk about how they were raised & how they are raising children. Lindsie talks about being a conflicted meat eater & Kail talks about the 2 meals she remembers her mom making. Lindsie talks about a woman in Britain whose doctor took our her ovaries without asking. Give your input on our merch on @coffeeconvospodcast instagram.
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Lindsay, is that high energy enough for you?
Yes.
Okay, right off the bat, I need to tell you about,
I was watching Shark Tank when I was in LA over the weekend,
and I saw these meals, right? So you know how we do HelloFresh, of course,
but we, you know, I do CrossFit, and so I saw these meals that were like
specifically geared towards CrossFit people called Ice Age Meals,
and I tried, I would order them so I could try them, and they came today and I leave tomorrow
for Europe. So like what do I do with all the meals, and you have to-
It was a fail.
Yeah, you have to order a minimum of 12 meals.
You have to order in groups of 12?
Yes. So I literally ordered 12 meals, and I'm leaving tomorrow for Europe.
So what the fuck am I going to do with these 12 meals? Eat them all tomorrow?
I think just freeze them.
Oh, can I do that? Is that a thing?
Yeah, that's a thing.
Okay.
You can do that.
Okay. Well, I mean, I guess I'll freeze, I don't even know if I have room in my freezer, but
also, I know, I'm a fucking mess. Like I didn't even start packing yet.
I don't even know if I have laundry for tomorrow.
Also, I got an email going to invite me to the movie awards, and I don't get a plus one,
and I know that this is like super, just like, I feel like a snob even complaining about it,
but I don't have a plus one. So like what the, I don't know that I want to go.
Well, when is it?
It's in two weeks.
Oh my gosh.
And they didn't give you a plus one, like who goes to like a formal event like that without
a date or like somebody to accompany them?
Right. That's what I'm saying. So I'm like, not sure that I think I'm just not going to go.
Yeah, I think that that's a good choice because like who flies solo to something like that?
I don't know. And it's in LA. So I'm not.
Yeah, that's, that's a strange situation there. I mean, I would accompany you, but
I mean, you don't have a plus one.
Right. So what the fuck?
So, so, I mean, there's that.
So as of last week's podcast, we got so many messages about who killed John Bonnet
and it was all across the board, but repeatedly the messages that came through over and over again
was Burke.
No, Burke didn't do it. He was, no, he didn't. And no, he didn't stop it right now. Stop it.
He did because there was, I remember where I got that information from and like where I came
to that conclusion, there was a documentary or something like that special, I don't know what
you want to call it, but it was on CBS. And I remember they had another child that would have
been like the same age stature, you know, whatever to use this object to hit a skull. And it was
like almost identical to the damage that was done to her head. So I don't buy it. I don't buy it.
Yeah, I think, I think that you're just like way off. Kale, I think you're, I think you're off.
No, I think the mom did it. I think that I blame the mom.
And then somebody said that like he smeared like shit on her present and candy like for Christmas.
Did you hear this before? Because I never heard that.
No, you know what the message I got though that kind of irritated me was I got one message that
she was so nasty about it too. She was like, Burke was not six. John Bonnet was six and Burke was
nine. I said, okay, like sorry, I got the ages wrong. I'm not buying it because Isaac's almost,
so he's eight and a half. And Isaac would just not have the strength or anything to do something
like that. And also as a parent, if one of my children did hurt my other child, like in a way
that was like that, I'm not going to then go through with murdering my child. I'm going to
take my child to the emergency room, and then I'm going to get my other child immediate help,
right? So I just don't know that I buy that as a mom, you're going to protect one child over
the other and then you're going to finish killing the other one because your other child hurt them.
I don't buy that. I would absolutely do the exact same thing that you would do if that was a situation
in my house. Definitely try to get the child that was hurt immediate help and then mentally get the
other child checked into some type of institution for behaving that way. I mean, I don't know
what other way you could look at it. I mean, I just, I don't believe in like the cover ups and
stuff like that for kids or like play in favorites or whatever. That little girl was, in my opinion,
seemed like the mom's favorite. She was living through the little girl. So why would she,
why would they go to those lengths to protect their son? I don't know, but we, the mom did it.
I mom did it. I promise we got so many messages about that and I was just like, you know what,
I really think that I think that he did it and then just this is kind of like recapping from
a previous week, but I also received another message to my personal Instagram
and this was the message. My sister is a teacher and knowing the hundreds of dollars of supplies
that she buys every year to make sure that every child has the supplies that they need listening
to complaints on buying a poster board made me shut the podcast for the week. Did we not clarify
that we were not saying it was the teacher's responsibility either to get the supplies? We
clarified that. It wasn't even, but we also had a podcast weeks ago that talked about how
when I get a supply list from the school for Isaac, it literally has supply, like you,
each parent gets the supplies for the entire classroom, not just for the student and Joe
and I both fulfilled that entire list. So Isaac went into school with double that,
double his one list. It wasn't necessarily about the poster board. It was more about the work that
I had to put in for Isaac's project. That was more what it was about and so that's kind of,
I mean, she definitely took it out of context. Yeah, I think it was just taken away out of
context and it was at no blow to like a teacher or anything like that. It was just more so of,
hey, if the school is going to ask, especially like for children who aren't, you know, what I would
say, I guess like privileged or able to afford, you know, there are truly some kids out there,
believe it or not, there are kids out there that their parents can't afford their school
lunches or their parents can't afford the post awards. Like, come on. Yeah.
To like have the extra stuff. So like, hey, lady, wake up and realize that that was what we were
talking about and not that was a no way right. We weren't taking shots at the teacher at all.
So she needs to relax. So I just wanted to clarify that there was no jabs at any teachers or anything
like that about buying supplies or whatnot. It was more so I kind of felt bad for the children
that have to go home and take this list to their parents and there are parents out there that would
have to scramble around to get the supplies for these children to be able to do the project
and just think about the kids that like their parents literally can't afford it and they just
have to do with whatever they have to do with. And then their project looks so much worse than
other kids that can't afford it. And then it reflects on their grade. I just think that everything
should just be like more of an even playing field and that you shouldn't have to like go and buy.
I think she was talking about me when I was complaining about buying the poster board
for Isaac's project the other week. I just don't understand. Like I didn't take it that way
whenever you said that. No, I wasn't. It was just more of like, okay, I have three kids,
you know, and I do have my kids. I have them alone. And then I have to go to the store to go get
this. I have to go to the store to print this. I have to, you know, help him with this project
because he can't do all that by itself all by himself. That was it was just a lot of work
for one project. It wasn't solely about the poster board. So she needs to relax.
Just, I mean, chill, lady. I mean, geez, I took a chill for like months.
Lady, I took a chill pill months ago and have been on cruise control for like months now. So
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It was something interesting though that just popped up into my head whenever I was driving
down the road in two hours worth of Atlanta traffic this afternoon. And okay, so I don't know how it
is for you with your boys, dads and stuff. But I always say like if I have to go do something and
I know like Jackson doesn't need to go. If it's like go and get a pedicure or if I need to like go
and do errands that it's like in and out of the car and it would just be easier for him to stay at
home. I always say, Will, like can you babysit him? And I've heard other girlfriends say that same
thing about, you know, babysitting your own child, your own child. And I'm like, it's not really
babysitting. I guess it's just like doing your part. But I always feel like I don't know like
Will doesn't make me feel like that. It's just I don't know if it's just part of being a mother or
I mean, I say what when I'm talking to Chris, I'm like, Hey, can you watch him?
So I guess it's the same thing. Yeah, but I just feel like that's not something that
we should really like have to do or go through or say, Oh, hey, you know, because I mean, obviously
Will works and so he can go and get a haircut or he can go and do like errands on lunch or, you know,
have like his hour lunch break or whatever. And I mean, luckily, I get to stay at home and I get to
do more unconventional work, which I'm so thankful for because he's steady Eddie. But at the same
time, I'm just kind of like, Hey, you know, I don't feel like I should even have to ask, Oh,
hey, can you watch him while I go and run here? Like last night, for example, I went and got a
pedicure. And I had taken Jackson to the pool and we came home. And I showered him and made
his dinner and made sure that he was fed before I ever left. And Will made the comment to me,
he was like, Well, I mean, you act like I can't do any of this stuff on my own. And I don't know if
it's just like a mom thing, or if that's just like a me thing, or what? It's probably a little
of both. I think it could be a little bit of both, for sure. I mean, obviously, like I know that he
knows how to, I'm not gonna say he knows how to make dinner, because the only thing Will really
knows how to do is scramble eggs. But um, I don't know. He can make scrambled eggs for dinner.
And kale, like when Will cooks, I swear, I mean, he can make ramen noodles. He makes such a mass,
and he says that he's the cleanest cook, but he makes such a freaking mass. And he'll use like
salt and pepper on the stove. And it gets like little like salt and pepper flakes like on the
stove. And then I have to take the whole thing apart and then like get all the flakes off.
How did you even marry this man? Because I'm just wondering how you have coped over the years.
I don't know. I feel like I'm just yesterday or not yesterday, last podcast and today,
like just talking about like husbands and like boys and stuff. Can I tell you that not only did
Lincoln ask me, no, he didn't even ask me, he told me to smell his armpits today. He also told me to
smell his breath and proceeded to blow his hot breath on my face. I mean, why would they think
that would be a good idea? And why do you think that I want my nose in your pits? Like why would
I want to smell your armpits? Absolutely not. Like no, but I will get you some deodorant.
Like we, first of all, does Jackson know that the pepper, the salt and pepper flakes are unacceptable?
Like make sure that he's watching you clean them so that he knows for his future wife.
Well, Jackson's future wife, okay, this is funny actually that you said that.
We always like tell Jackson, hey, you have to like clean up your playroom. It's quite a mess.
You really need to clean it up. And he's like, well, when I get grown and I have children,
I'm never going to make them clean. And we're like, okay, well then you're going to live in
a literal pigsty. And he's like, no, I won't, my wife will just do it. Well, I guess because he
knows that that's what I do. So I guess he's like learned it honest. And I'm like, that poor woman,
like whoever she is, like, I sympathize with you, girl. I mean, who, what child says that at five
years old? Oh, well, my wife will just do it. First off, you don't know anything about a wife.
Clean your goddamn playroom. Exactly. Like clean it up.
Just clean the room. Why are we like going into this long conversation about like when you get
married and like all this like crazy stuff. But anyway, as I was saying, Will's just like a messy
Marvin and I just wanted to get all of the dinner and whatever cooked and cleaned up before I left.
And I know that he's capable of doing it. And maybe I just need to realize, okay, everything
will be fine. Just go and get the pedicure. And yeah, leave him with Hello Fresh and go get your
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I can say. Well, still like Chris is so clean. Like he always cleans up after Yeah, he's very
clean. So anytime he's like cooked or like, even if he's like come to the house and there's dishes
in my sink, he'll do them. Like he just doesn't like the mess. Okay, well, I never have dishes in my
sink because the dishwasher is like right there. And that's another thing that I don't understand
about people. I mean, sometimes you're just like things are a little crazy or like,
I don't know. I have three kids. So like I maybe the dish, I ran the dishwasher and it's clean.
So I didn't get a chance to unload it yet. And so now there's dirty dishes in the sink. So I mean,
at some point throughout the day, I'm going to empty the dishwasher and then like put the dirty
dishes in there. But if Chris gets here before that happens, I will certainly he'll do them.
But see, Will has that same Bozo mentality that you just said that if there's clean dishes in
there, then sometimes you'll just like get busy and put it in the sink and then no, like stop
whatever you are doing. If you just dirtied a plate and it was that important for you to dirty it,
then it's that important for you to clean out the clean dishes and put those away so that you
can put the dirty one in the dishwasher. Like it's bizarre to me. You know what? I was raised
like a barbarian. So we're just we're going through it. We're getting through it. I'm just
living. I'm rolling with the punches these days. And you know, I'm thankful that, you know, the
dishes even get done at all. Like if we're being honest. And then there's that. So Will, like,
he'll always say, Oh, I helped do this or I helped do that. And I'm like, well, when like 12 months
ago, did you unload the dishwasher? Like remember that one time that I clean the toilets on December
15, 2012? Yeah, remember that I did my part. He always remembers like the one time and if he's
done it one time, it like counts for like 95 times like after that. Oh, for sure. For sure.
And I'm just like, no, I'm the only one that cleans out the dishwasher. Like, hey,
you need to get it together because I'm tired of getting it together for you. Okay.
I mean, I feel like when you get married, like you're making a conscious decision that, you know,
you will essentially pick up after them because they are a child in that sense.
Well, and I just think about, you know, like in college and stuff when we dated because I try to
like backtrack and think, okay, well, how was I whenever I was like 20 years old? And I guess it
was like apartment living. So I wasn't really, I wasn't a homeowner. And I was kind of like
going with the punches too, because I had so much schoolwork. I was a business student and I had so
much schoolwork and I graduated exactly in four years. I didn't take any extra time. And so I was
constantly like worried about my grades and then constantly at the ball field and then Will would
have workouts every day. So then he would bring like dirty clothes home and I would be worrying
about cleaning those clothes for the next day so that you would have them clean for the next day.
So it was more like my place was always clean, but I guess having a child takes a lot of
time and then I would be invested in schoolwork and stuff. So I was more of the mentality of
everything's clean, but other things will get done, like when they get done, but when I think about
messy. Yeah, but like then when I became a homeowner, like things just like completely
changed for me. It's like I valued things just differently. Like I value my appliances and I
value, you know, like the way my floors look and whatever. I mean, I know that that's not like
the end of the world. Like it's just a house, but I just like everything to be clean in a certain
way. And it's the only way I can really function. Like I can't work in like a messy area. I can't,
I feel like dirty and I just feel like I need to take a shower and I don't know. Like I just,
I can't do it. My house is clean, but it's messy. It's definitely lived in, but I do get what you're
saying. Like I do value, you know, my mom never owned a house because she was just a fucking mess.
So, you know, the fact that I own a home is I do value that. And so I do take care of my things,
but I think as far as like cleanliness, like, you know, after I do my makeup in the morning,
I'm probably going to leave my makeup brushes on the vanity or like, I might not put the cap
on my toothpaste right away, but later on in the day, I'll for sure do it. You know what I mean?
But like as far as like my house and my lawn and my yard and stuff like that, like I do try to take
care of my things, my appliances, stuff like that. But you know, you know, like I said, I don't,
go ahead. I just, I don't like to look outside. Like I live in a very like clean and kept
neighborhood. So I like for my yard to be the lowest cut grass, like, and I think it's like
competitive nature to like, I like everything of mine to be like the cleanest or like the nice,
like the nicest looking yard, like it's the most kept, it might not be like the most expensive,
but it's like the most kept yard. I don't know. It's just like, I was raised. My dad definitely
always like wanted us to strive for perfection. And it definitely started showing more so for
me, not through like growing up years. I don't think, I don't know. I would have to ask my parents,
but I didn't recognize it through my growing up years until college. And then I would get like
a 98 on an accounting test, which is like unheard of. But then I would argue with my professor,
I would argue with my professor like about the two points and like why it was right,
because the closer I got to 100, the more like I wanted the 100. So it's almost like an addiction
in a sense too of like, how perfect can I be? And I'm like that with everything, like how perfect
can my child be? Can he like be better in sports than these kids? Can he, you know, swim better?
Can he, I don't know. It's just like so weird. Like is my car cleaner? Is my house cleaner?
Is, and I don't say that to people, you know, or whatever, but it's just like a mentality of
just like how to be like the best. I think, well, that definitely stems from your childhood. And I
could, I mean, I don't know your family, but I could see that. I could definitely see that.
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to eat all organic. And for the past few weeks, I seriously, no joke, have gone back and forth
about if I'm ever going to buy meat again. And it's been this weird battle of I love meat.
But yeah, it's internal conflict. I love meat, and I know that I probably need it.
But then part of me, too, is I don't know necessarily if that's the perfect,
most healthiest way of living. So how do I be more perfect?
So I think my uncle was vegan. And I know a lot of vegan and vegetarians.
I think that they have a lot of meat substitutes and like tofu and stuff. And I think,
you know, I think there's definitely ways to do it. Are you thinking about doing like
vegetarian or like vegan? Like vegetarian, I think. And I know dairy and eggs.
Yes, I would have to. I know my whole household couldn't do it. I think Jackson could do it.
I think I could do it. Will could probably do it like five days a week and then meet two days a
week. He's always been, I didn't really eat much meat before Will. And then when Will and I got
together, his family always were cooking steaks and burgers and whatever. And so I just kind of
adopted not really like their style of eating because I still don't eat the same as they do,
but just more so like in keeping with being able to like conform and eat something that they were
having. We didn't really eat steaks and stuff like that growing up. I mean, we ate like vegetable
dinners more so and stuff like that, like casseroles. What is a vegetable dinner? Like I'm
trying to think in the summertime, for example, sliced tomatoes, cucumbers, green beans. Like
that was a meal. Squash. Yeah, like like squash, maybe a cake of cornbread, which would be like
spilling, pretty filling, I guess. You know what? I ate Doritos and like mac and cheese,
maybe a frozen pizza. Like there was no cooking in my household growing up. Well, and but okay,
so this is the other thing because people were asking too about us growing up and how different
our lives were and how I grew up in a trailer park. I'm bottom of the barrel, scum, white trash.
Kale, you're so hard on yourself. No, okay, maybe not a trailer park, but I definitely
was white trash. Like I grew up white trash. The rest of my family wasn't, but me and my mom were.
Like my mom, literally the only two meals I ever remember my mother cooking for me were
like real meals were tacos, which obviously came out of a box and she made me Alfredo,
broccoli Alfredo one time. That was when I was in high school. I got the Alfredo in high school.
Other than that, it was Velveeta mac and cheese, which I hate now. Like I hate it. And frozen pizza.
Well, and see that's just, I don't know. I grew up just completely differently. We always had a meal
on the table and it was always, you know, we ate by seven o'clock, I would say by seven o'clock,
like no later than seven o'clock we ate and the kitchen was cleaned and I always was like the
kitchen cleaner. Of course, clean the kitchen and everything was pretty much done and shut down by,
I would say 730 or 745. And then it was just like bath bed, very functional. I mean,
normal people say that we're like crazy from the show and see like the crazy things that
my family like says and does, but really as far as like our raising, it was pretty normal,
I would say, you know, like am I normal to you? Yeah, normal to me, I guess. Always had a meal
always had a meal on the table, always, you know, my parents paid for private school education.
You know, they valued like things that I feel like I also value. A lot of people were asking on
Twitter, how is my form of parenting different than my parents? And I would say that like the
core value things aren't much different than the way I was raised. But the way that I go about things
and raising my little one is different, like my approach on things are a little different.
And I think everybody could say that, you know, growing up that you when you're a little kid,
you probably say, and I know I did, okay, well, when I grow up and I have a kid,
then I'm going to do this or, you know, I'm going to do that. I think that's very
normal to want to do things like different than your parents, because they can't do everything
perfect, you know. But I don't think that my raising for Jackson is too far off from the way
that I was raised. I have a very different story. I was lucky if my mom was home at seven o'clock.
My mom worked like a day job, and then she would go bartend at five o'clock every day,
at least five days a week, so probably like Tuesday to Saturday or whatever she would go
bartend. So I was pretty much on my own or had like a live and babysitter that never got paid.
And yeah, she could barely make rent. And but the one thing that I there are a couple things
that my mom, like my mom was just not present. She just like wasn't there. And a lot of people
took part in raising me. So but I will say that my mom didn't still like a couple values in me,
one of them being like, because I bounced around so much, I always knew to take care of, you know,
when I'm at somebody else's house, I always clean up better than, than I would at my own home.
And I always knew to be on my best behavior at other people's houses, just because I mean,
that wasn't my house. And I spent so much time at other people's houses, so I didn't want to
let my mom down in that aspect. You know, I didn't want I'm going to go spend five days with someone,
I don't know when you're going to come pick me up. So let me be on my best behavior so that my mom,
you know, they can at least tell my mom that I was good, you know. So other than me, when you,
when you say that to me, though, just as a mother hearing that, like if you were a child,
and you were in my house and you told me that, I would say that was a defense mechanism that you
used so that you wouldn't have to be alone so that your friends, parents wouldn't say, oh,
you can't come back. You know what's crazy? The crazy thing is like now as an adult, I'm 26 years
old, right? So looking back at my childhood, if any parents of my friends that, you know,
did tell my mom that I couldn't be there, like they never made it, they never made me feel bad,
they never said it in front of me, they never, you know what I mean? Like if they ever told my
mom like you need to come get her or like whatever, like they never didn't make me feel welcome. And
I think it's because anyone that was taking care of me at the time, they knew the situation.
So yeah, I mean, maybe it was a defense mechanism. And I think
I'm thankful for it. But now I think in terms of like Isaac going to a friend's house, like
I'm so concerned with how he's acting over there or if he's cleaning up after himself or if he's
behaving right, you know, some kids say crazy things. So I just like never want him to like
say something crazy or, you know, because I know what I did as a kid, like I made sure I was on my
best behavior. I never did anything crazy. I always help my friends with their chores. Like
I hope Isaac's doing the same. Right. Yeah. So guys, that was pretty much our answer to
how different or the same we parent our kids actually remember me telling you about the pool,
like bacteria and whatever. Do you remember me telling you that the pool? Oh, in the hotels?
Yeah, fuck yeah. Yes. Okay. So how random is it that I was just talking about that. And then on
May 17th, there was an article that I ran across that says woman dies from deadly bacteria she
thought was just a pimple. Indianapolis mother of an Indianapolis Indianapolis mother of four
died earlier this month after contracting a deadly flesh eating bacteria while on vacation.
And it said that she noticed what looks like a pimple on her right butt and it was sore to the
touch. She went to the hospital twice and was given antibiotics and a heating pad to treat which
like the doctors thought it was a virus. And after two courses of antibiotics, the 50 year old
woman's condition like didn't improve at all. So they set up a GoFundMe page and she like
eventually started vomiting and then that progressed to days of vomiting blood. And then
they discovered that she had contracted a deadly flesh eating bacteria. And it was from like being
at a pool and they were car racing enthusiasts and were at an annual trip to Clearwater, Florida
to see a race at Showtime Speedway. And that's where she got it. I am disgusted and I feel so
sorry for her and her family. That you definitely change my perception, my perspective on pools and
like hot tubs and stuff like they just breed bacteria. I actually had my pool cleaners come
today and they put 80 pounds of salt in my pool. So they cleaned it, they scrubbed any spots that
were looked a little funny. And I make sure that because people, I have a lot of my friends come by,
the kids come by, they have their friends over, they want to get in the pool. Even just having
people that I know in my pool kind of like the thought of it is like, you don't really think
of anything, you don't think anything of it. But after hearing that, I'm like, nope, we're going
to make sure that the levels are exactly where they should be. If they're not where they should be,
don't get in the water. Well, it says that also they suspect that the location that she got it from
was a hot tub at the Dason Hotel that they were staying at. And there was other people that were
in the hot tub as well. So I don't know if she had like, I mean, she could have had, you know,
even like a piece of peeled skin from like a fingernail. I mean, you know, who knows like
where it could have like entered into her body. And yeah, just got like a flesh eating bacteria
from sitting in a hot tub and died. Well, I hope nobody's eating their lunch listening to this.
If I ruined your appetite or your breakfast, if you're listening to us driving to work,
I am so sorry about talking about the pimple that was on this woman's ass.
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building, the Gotham building or whatever in New York City, apparently she was in a custody battle
and I guess it literally sent her over the edge. So that was the report that she
had been in a custody battle. So I also saw this other thing on CBS News about a woman
killing herself after a surgeon removed her ovaries without consent. Yes, a surgeon in
Britain is under investigation after he allegedly removed a patient's ovaries without her consent.
The woman was 58 years old, later killed herself because of the ongoing pain caused by the procedure
according to like CBS, you know, news, whatever. She was having bowel surgery in 2016 at the spine
hospital in England and her surgeon helped pioneer the use of mesh implants to fix like
bowel problems and stuff and he basically told her it would be a complex procedure
and she didn't learn until after the operation that her ovaries had been removed. He said that he
thought he had done a favor to her and a favor how and how is that a favor? I have no I don't know
like because if maybe she was like after menopause or something but she's after menopause and it
shouldn't matter because you're not getting your period after that anyways. I don't know if she was
I'm just like assuming that like maybe it was she was after menopause I mean she was 58 years old
but she maybe didn't go through menopause yet I don't I don't know but I mean how would I remove
the surgeon's ballsack he probably wouldn't like that. Apparently she had told in an interview before
her death that the surgeon had said I thought you knew a woman of your age would really wouldn't
really need her ovaries and she said why did you remove them and he said they were in he said that
like when he went to do the surgery for the bowel stuff that the ovaries were in the way
and so she said that her life was absolutely ruined and then she was found dead in her home
in January so what no because if he went in for surgery for something else he wouldn't want his
testicles removed right so why would he think it was okay it doesn't matter how old you are like
don't remove somebody's body parts like I don't understand what what in his right mind would
even make him think that that wasn't even an option like I know I know for some surgeries for example
um you know through childbirth or like c-section whatever if you have like a massive bleed or
they have to remove certain things I mean that's kind of like an emergency situation you're kind
of giving them the go-ahead right so right if this you're going in for bowel surgery
and you have a completely different body part removed what did you think that the patient
was going to say well and apparently she was complaining more so from the pain from where
the bowel surgery was unsuccessful because the the mesh like wasn't she claimed wasn't put in
properly and so she was in pain agony whatever and I don't think the pain and stuff was caused
from the ovaries but that was just something that she had found out after the fact that
she had had the surgery I just don't think that you should be able to go into somebody's body
and just because they're under and you feel like oh well you know she's 58 she doesn't need her ovaries
that's like a personal decision you were born with them somebody shouldn't be able to just take
them from you if you want to know like the nurses in the room the anesthesiologist like nobody thought
hey baby you shouldn't do this yeah I mean what was there's got to be more to the story you know
I mean there has to be there has to be more to the story I'm not I just that's crazy I don't find
these articles Lindsay I just find like it on random like you have like I'll just you always
have the most off-the-wall articles that I'm like I wouldn't even know where to find that
I know well I just speaking of articles how do you feel about Kim Kardashian meeting up with
Donald Trump I don't know how I feel about it I'm kind of conflicted well first of all I'm also
feel conflicted on it I will say that prison reform is already just really hard because a lot of
them are privately owned and I don't think that a lot of people know that like the a lot of prisons
are privately owned so they're not necessarily run by the government right correct and I just feel like
I don't know correct Kim Kardashian and Kanye West are taking a lot of L's lately
I don't know I just think that like she would have never been able to have that meeting if she
wasn't Kim Kardashian you know what I mean but also I feel like I saw this one tweet that was like
the Obamas loved Jay-Z and Beyonce so much that Kim and Kanye want to they just like want to be
Jay-Z and Beyonce so bad that now they're trying to like befriend Donald Trump but like I mean I'm
not saying whether you know I'm one way or the other I'm just saying like what I find on Twitter
is funny and I just I don't know I feel like we're more concerned about like Kim meeting up with
Donald Trump I guess then you know some other things that are going on in the world like that
the kid that did the last shooting he there was a video posted on Twitter as well about how he was
like it was literally like selfie style video of how he was excited to do the next shooting and
like everyone was going to know who he was so like there's just so many things going on and we're
focusing on Kim and Donald speaking of speaking of oh my god there was this article that came up
it was like breaking news I can't even remember where I saw it it probably wasn't breaking news
I probably just made that part up but it was breaking news to me it was about this girl in
South Carolina she was 19 years old and she completely filed a complete false police report
to the local law enforcement that some man had driven up while she was like checking her mail
at her mailbox with her baby some man had driven up and she described this vehicle like the color
of it everything and said that he punched her in the face and took her baby and so the police like
go start investigating all of this stuff and she had visible marks on her face so they thought oh
you know like this is like believable you know nobody's gonna make this up so then as they start
investigating she then basically starts backtracking her story and says that actually she filed a
false police report and that didn't happen and she killed her baby the police found the baby like
a hundred yards from the house that she was at in a diaper box in a bag like the baby had been put
in a bag in the diaper box like yards from the house where she was yes that was this week in South
Carolina Jesus fucking Christ I just feel like like what is wrong with people like but I just
don't understand like I don't understand like the thought process of some people like if you don't
want the child and it's like too much for you there's somebody out there that will take your
baby like literally you can drop your baby off at a hospital or a church and walk away and nobody
gets hurt and you don't charge in some states you don't even get charged or anything like that it's
like a safe haven you know I remember when I gave birth to Isaac there was like a little
like drop off crib bassinet thing right when you walk into the hospital you can like leave
your baby there and they won't come find you that's crazy I mean I would just rather somebody take a
baby and drop it off and just I don't know what like nobody gets hurt yeah nobody gets hurt like
why did you have to kill the baby and then it was so like inhumane like she put the baby in I don't
know if it was like a ziplock bag I don't even want to know but the baby was in a bag in a like
diaper box that diapers had come in it was baby yes and I'm just like who in their right my obviously
nobody in their right mind would do that but who could even like go to that extreme no matter
how mad you were like to think even to think about it yeah to even like have that thought cross your
mind like a normal train of thought is I need to do everything to keep my child like safe and
not you know the child needs to be fearful of you killing it I mean that's just so nuts I was
not when I saw that I was like something's wrong literally something's something's wrong right for
sure one side of the brain is not connecting to the other or she only has a half a brain because
that is not normal but there had to be I always wonder about who'd be like that like
do people do they have like warning signs do they not have warning signs like as they're not
any sign leading up to that point that maybe this person isn't fit to be a parent or no
I don't know I I don't know I stopped trying to figure people out a long time ago because
there's so much maybe I should do the same there's like so much bad I feel like in the world I I
wanted to like think long ago I thought like you know people are good you know generally like people
are good I really don't feel like that I feel like there are more bad people than there are good
people yeah and there are more people that have like bad motives versus good motives like I am
skeptical of everybody I'm with you 100% well on a completely unrelated note let's talk about
merchandising really quick okay um what do you want to share we want to give you guys products I
know a lot of people have been asking about products and stuff like that so um we're working on it and
I think that um it would be good too just for like our lot when we do get to do our live tour
you know to have merchandise for you guys so if you are wanting products let us know what
products you want if you guys are wanting shirts or if you guys are wanting you know coffee mugs
maybe would be cute or like tumblers um Lindsay what ideas do you have well I know that I liked doing
like shirts and tumblers like that was more of the things that I was comfortable with and have some
ideas like already in place um I like understated things um simple muted colors and I think that
we just want some feedback from our listeners obviously you guys are supporting us and we
want to be able to give you what you guys want and so if you could just comment on our instagram
just whatever picture we'll see it um let's say the last post um comment comment on our last post
and just give us ideas of things that you guys think are a good idea for merchandising and
we'll see what we can do I want a phone case like for myself also oh phone case that's a good idea
phone cases that would be super cute um also why don't you go ahead and just tell everybody about
your um hairline oh yeah so um I I'm not gonna say too much because I don't I don't want to give it
all the way um but I am working on a hair product line so I'm doing like dry shampoo hair oil and
leaving conditioner because those are the three things that I use all the time um so right now
I got my my first set of samples in from the labs um it's a lab in Dallas and um so I'm just like
trying the products letting my friends try the products getting feedback I don't I know like
Kylie Jenner when she first had her lip kits come out the first batch of lip kits were so bad
that I'm afraid that I don't have you know I don't have the following that she has so
so I don't think that people will give me a second chance the way that they gave her a second chance
you know what I mean so I want to make sure that right my first batch of products is just as good
as the next one you know what I mean so I'm just going to take my time with it but it's
something that I've been working on for months actually um and I haven't really said too much
but now I'm trying to figure out packaging and like a logo and um I'm super excited about it so
I'm not going to say the name or anything yet because I want to make sure that we have like a
release date and all that first but just keep your eye out for my hair product line well and
also I'm a huge like proponent for quality over quantity like if you can get the quality
where it needs to be I would rather have less things and a really good quality product versus
you know having yeah a million mediocre things yes and I just I don't know I think it's good
to just like take your time and invest in like what you're doing invest your time invest you
know your resources invest with the people that you know are going to be using these products to
know okay this is something that I'm going to be able to give to them and offer to them that
they're really going to love so I'm super excited to be able to try it too um so you guys just keep
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