Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 33: Kail's Trip to Europe, Kate Spade, & Poor Life Choices

Episode Date: June 21, 2018

Kail talks about Europe & Lindsie reveals why she fears traveling to foreign countries. Find out why Lindsie took tons of Kraft Mac & Cheese to Hawaii. They weigh in on Kate Spade's suicide. If you know someone who needs help or you yourself need help, call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline: [phone]-TALK. They discuss the murder of JonBenet Ramsey's Forensic Psychiatrist. Kail talks about poor life choices &. Lindsie talks about how she prioritizes things. 

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos. I am back from Europe and excited to catch up with Lindsay. How are you? I'm good. I have just been kind of busy doing nothing, which has been nice. I had planned to take a social hiatus and kind of did it in a sense, but not fully. But I've pretty much been mentally checked out for like a week. So, oh good. It's been nice going to the pool a lot, playing outside a lot, working out a lot, and just cooking a lot. Good. I saw when you sent me the, you had made the Hello Fresh. I was so excited for you because that's our favorite meal. How did it come out?

It came out good the second time. It came out better than the first time that I made it. And I think it was just because I did something weird with the cauliflower the first time. I don't know if I like, did it make it small enough or something, but I made it like a lot smaller pieces the second time I made it. And it was so good. We'll have to get you guys the recipe for it because it really is like an all-around favorite in my house. And same for mine. So, can I just tell you about my trip to Europe? Yes. I want to know everything.

I ended up going by myself because I earned the trip through Sensi, which is a direct sales company that I work for. And, you know, I didn't want to, I didn't want to pass up all the opportunity. And so I went and I have to say it was very lonely. I did struggle a little bit. However, on day three, I think, so I was there, I was in Europe from the first to the 10th while the kids were with their dads. And I think it was day three. I met two girls that were so sweet. One of them is a nanny in Saudi Arabia and the other one, they're both from Maine. They were friends. And then the other girl, she also sells Sensi and she's from Maine. So they kind of like took me under their wing for a couple days

and like, I got to hang out with them and like not be alone. And they took really cool pictures of me. We just had a really good time. So I was so happy that I met them. We got to see, I went to Spain to Mallorca. I explored all of Mallorca by myself. The taxi driver kind of just like took me around. And he didn't, he did try to get good pictures of me. He tried really hard, but I don't know. I got to see like where the matadors used to do like the bull thing, which I'm so glad they ended. Do you know what I'm talking about? What is it called? It's like a matador. I don't know. I want to say it's like bullfighting, but the bulls don't fight. It's like they wear red and they like antagonize the bull

and then they basically kill the bull. It's super cruel. Oh my gosh, that's terrible. Yeah, it's so cruel. But they ended it, but I did still go look at like where they used to have those, um, which was, I mean, it was cool to like see it. And I, I know it's like Spanish culture. It was, you know, a tradition that they did. So I was still, it was still cool to go look at. Um, then I went to Rome, Florence, Pisa. I saw the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which was super cool. And I like took the, the cliche picture of me trying to hold it up. So that was kind of like pushing it back up. Um, and I ate pizza walking down the streets of Rome and I basically was Italian, you know, like I'm Italian now.

Well, I am so glad that you are so cultured, but I have to tell you, I don't think I can make it in Europe. I really don't. Like I think I would die of being homesick. Really? Yeah. No, like when I went to New York, this is no lie. I was homesick when I woke up. Like the first day I was there, I was homesick. Like I homesick or you get like, like anxiety because you're not home to like do your routines or both. I think it's like a combination of both. Like I'm actually physically sick and like want to be at my house. And once I get home and I know that's what it is because once I get home, I'm fine. But a lot of it too is like the anxiety of the change, I think, and not being like in my kitchen whenever

I wake up and not being in my bed and not being able to take a shower in my shower. It's just all the combinations of the above and then go into a place that has like different outlets and like different kind of food and me not being able to understand. I mean, I don't know. I just, I don't think I could survive. I really don't. I, you know what? I was actually really surprised and pleasantly surprised. Really? I mean, I think I didn't really struggle, struggle with the language barrier just because when I was in Spain, you know, I know enough Spanish to get by. And then they also know so much English and then same in Italy and France. Like I didn't really have, I think France

was the hardest country that I was in that was with the language barrier. But I was still enough. They spoke enough English where I didn't have to struggle really. And I just knew the food was good. I'm just not really like a backpack explorer type girl. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, you like like the islands and pampering and stuff. I feel like, yeah, like I'm looking into Aruba and the Bahamas right now. Well I went to the Bahamas. That was a good time. I love the Bahamas. Yeah. Okay. Now let's take a break and talk to you guys about one of my personal favorite partners, Scentbird. I hate being married to one sent forever and

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all the weird things. And so like, fuck yeah, I was in Europe for the first time, I had to try some of this stuff. So I didn't even know I was eating chicken liver. Like she told, Andy told me that it was chicken, so she didn't lie. And she's like, here, I'll spread it on a piece of bread for you. And I was like, a little grossed out because it did look like cat food, but she said it was chicken. So I was like, okay, this is kind of like, sometimes babies eat pureed meat. So like, maybe I'll try it. And so I did. And after I swallowed it, she was like, was it good? And I was like, yeah, it wasn't bad. She's like, well, that's chicken liver. So in my defense, it's not like I went into it

knowing it was chicken liver. Will I ever eat it again? Definitely not. So wait, it's like how we have a liver, it's like the chicken one. Yes, it's a chicken's liver. No, no. If I even thought that I had to eat something like that, I would, I really would fear honestly, if I had to go to Europe, that I would starve to death. No, they have pizza and pasta and they have all the things like I did try like homemade pasta, which was so good. But they put caviar on things. And you would think like caviar so fish eggs, you wouldn't think for them to be crunchy, right? But I tried caviar and

it's literally like pop rocks in your mouth. It's absolutely disgusting and disturbing. Well, again, not interested in caviar, not interested in any. I picture you as like a super fancy food eater and I feel like you would eat as cargo and caviar. No, I mean, and actually you're not the first person that's told me that. But I am probably like the most bland person when it comes to eating, like I have a very bland taste palette. I don't like a lot of seafood, like there are certain fish that I'll eat, but I don't really like a lot of seafood. I don't like a lot of like foreign food. I

like American food and so have you tried an oyster before? Have I tried what? An oyster. An oyster? Yes, it's like snot. I tried one. It's like a lugi. Yeah, it's like snot going down your throat and it's literally disgusting. Horrible. So I tried that and lobster. Lobster was gross to me also and I tried beef, carpaccio, beef carpaccio, which is basically like uncooked slices of meat and that was equally disgusting

to me, but I tried it. And so that was the main thing here is like, I'm going to try anything once, you know? Well, if this puts anything into perspective, when Jackson and I went to Hawaii, we were filming Christina's Best at the time, and we're staying at the Four Seasons, Super Nice Hotel in Maui, and I got afraid, like I knew we were still going to be in the U.S., but I got afraid about the food. I'm just like really weird about that. So I went to the grocery store and bought like almost a whole suitcase worth of like Easy Mac and like snacks and then was like researching. I wonder if they'll have a microwave

and like we're still in the U.S., but I didn't know, okay, they can have a microwave where I can cook this. Like, are we going to starve? They're not uncivilized, Lindsay. I didn't know and I was like, oh my God, this is just going to be terrible. Like, I don't know. I just get so much anxiety and I just, I don't know. I just like normalcy, I guess. So did you have to finish, did you finish eating all the mac and cheese at Easy Mac or did you eat some food from Hawaii? No, we actually did. I ate one meal in Hawaii outside of what I brought, one meal.

Oh my God, you're insane. I loved the food in Hawaii. I tried all their things there too. They have like a cool macaroni salad that I loved. That's like traditional out there and it's just so good. You're just like so much more fun than me and like an adventurer and like you'll go out on a limb and do stuff and that's just not me. Like I'm kind of boring and just setting my ways. I'm kind of like an old lady in a sense. Me too, but just in different ways. All right, y'all. I know that we have talked about Brooklyn and before, but it's time to

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I was there, I was actually in an elevator and I don't know why I remember this, but she texted me, um, that Kate Spade had committed suicide and I was like, well, this is fucking depressing. And how crazy? Well, yeah, that was literally so crazy. It was, I mean, I get shocked by the news every day whenever I read stuff. And you know, I read all the time and I'm constantly like up to date with what's going on in the world, like whether it be political, we don't really talk about that on here because it's not really something that I want to get into. But like entertainment news and health news and everything, like I'm pretty up to date with what's going on. And that was one thing that came across the

news that I was absolutely shocked by same. I didn't even have words. I didn't know what to say. I just, I, we have been talking about suicide for like three straight weeks on this podcast. Like I, what I don't even know what we can do to like help or to like spread awareness or like maybe we put the hotline number in our description. I just, this is so sad. So for those of you who are listening, who have not caught the news, I'm sure you have heard bits and pieces and there's been multiple different false reports going around. There's been multiple different stories in regards to Kate Spade's suicide. But according to CBS this morning, Kate Spade's sister told them that she had struggled with mental illness

and bipolar disorder and that just happened to end tragically. I am under the impression that she did not have a relationship with this sister and that has been across like all articles that I have read that this sister was in a sense kind of estranged. I think she had one sibling that she had a kind of decent relationship with that they talked more regularly than the other siblings. But according to this sister, she had business problems as well as marriage problems. And for those of you who don't know any of the background information of this story, her housekeeper found her in her home where she had hung herself in her bedroom from a doorknob with a red scarf. So her husband was at home

at the time and she left a note that was addressed to her daughter that said, it is not your fault. And some of the reports that I read, the note was skewed, but this report said that it said it is not your fault. She sold her company in 2007 and took off nine years and dedicated her life to raising her daughter and she had since launched a new company with her husband and tons of CNN, CBS, ABC all across the board said that actually the suicide prevention hotline had increased calls by 25% since this tragedy and just that in general her death had brought a lot of attention to mental health and awareness. So if we can take anything out of this, she, you know, with it being such a tragedy, she has brought

a ton of awareness to suicide. And, you know, if you know anyone who is struggling or if you yourself need help, you can go to the National Suicide Prevention Hotline and that is 1-800-273-TALK. Again, it's 1-800-273-TALK. We'll make sure that we put it in our description and there's ways that you can get help and across the board her friends and people that kind of knew her said that it was very shocking that she was very lively, that she was like full of color and full of life and they were very surprised. So you don't really know what somebody is struggling with and if you just get any type of inkling that somebody is struggling with something, it's not going to hurt you just to reach out and ask them how they're

doing because you might save somebody's life. Yeah, I was just going to say just to piggyback off of that is like you might not be able to get somebody to come forward on their own but just reaching out to people, you know, maybe something doesn't seem right or maybe someone just crosses your mind like reaching out to them, you know, reaching out to people that, you know, you're thinking of regularly you should just definitely do that because I think a lot of people that are going through this, they don't really know how to reach out and they sometimes I feel like they don't even realize what they're kind of thinking or feeling. So having someone reach out to

them is probably best. I know I've struggled with, I don't know, just going through things and not really having the right words to ask for help or ask, you know, ask my friends to like talk through certain things. So I think just having someone else reach out and just being there for the people you love will help tremendously but, you know, I'm glad that we're able to have this platform and talk about stuff like that so that we can also encourage the suicide hotline or whatever, however, you know, we can't help. Well, and even if you, you know, have any type of depression or you're just having a bad day or if you have anxiety or whatever it may be, find somebody that you can talk

to to just have that outlet so that things don't get to a level that you feel like you can't emotionally handle life anymore. And it's just so sad to hear some of the things that, you know, just like in her specific case, and I'm sure with lots of others who have, you know, gone to this length of, you know, tragedy, her dad was saying that she was in the middle of planning a trip, you know? Yeah, that's hard. Okay, so number one, you might hear my dogs walking around in the background while we record this. So that's the perfect time to talk to you guys about something that's really important to me. You guys know I love my dogs and I'm loving the whistle device.

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been through it, but it definitely opens your eyes to a lot of things. And I just, you know, just to be there for people. And I guess I just, I don't even really know how you can help somebody if you don't, you know, if they're saying like she's lively and she's planning a trip and she's doing all this, like, I guess we should do our research and try to figure out like where, what do we need to look for? You know what I mean? Because I don't know that if there's no red flags really, then how do you really know how to help somebody? And I guess that's what I'm, you know, but what's kind of crazy? Apparently in her situation, her husband said that she suffered from depression and anxiety

and that she had been seeing a doctor regularly and was taking medication to combat the conditions. And you know, contrary to the other reports and the things that the sister that is not involved, apparently those reports were untrue that she didn't have substance issues or business problems. So I feel like it's one of those things that I don't know. I like have a bunch of feelings on it. Like it's kind of weird that they're, because she was a public figure, like the alleged reports and this person saying this person and this, you know, this person saying one thing, this person saying another, like, doesn't really help. Because at the end of the day, regardless of what was causing it or what she was going through, like, it

does get better. And regardless of what she was going through, I think, you know, it's whether she had a doctor or not, I guess it still happens. So I guess that's the hardest part to come to terms with. Well, and just to like touch briefly on the fact of being, you know, a public figure, I think it's so sad that, you know, the situation is what it is. And unfortunately, as public figures, anything that is said or done, you're kind of used as an example. And they kind of shine light on things the media does shine light on things that are, you know, not your best days. And that's just the way that the media works. I disagree with some of the information

that has come out about her story as far as like how she was found. The, you know, fact that it was with a red scarf and the note to her 13 year old daughter. And all this personal information that I just feel shouldn't have been divulged out there, right. But it's the media and unfortunately, that's what they do. That's how they, that's how they operate. And they're going to continue to do it. And I just, I disagree with those types of information. Like if you want to report that, you know, she committed suicide or whatever, then fine, but kind of leave it at that. I feel like it's more so personal, like family things that shouldn't be divulged for us to even know. Yeah, I agree. I definitely agree with

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it and then all of a sudden we keep finding more and more articles that keep coming up and I mean, the recent news stories, I know that you know about it. But the forensic psychiatrist who consulted on her case and also consulted on many other high profile cases was killed outside his office, he was found shot dead outside of his Phoenix office. So something is weird about that. So now they're possibly going to exhume her body and now he's found dead. And also someone had tweeted me saying that the dad can't get tried for double jeopardy because they never they never he never like he I guess he got questioned but he was never tried and convicted so they can't they can actually charge him if they find him to be

involved in the case somehow involved with her murder. Well so I definitely thought wow, some things going on with this there's it like it's just not adding up like there's too much like irony in this right like right. Yeah, I was like oh wow, Cal and I are really going to crack the case. But then as I started doing my research, there were actually six homicides in the Scottsdale area of Arizona and they appeared to be linked to the murder suspects divorce. So apparently they I say they the police feel like they have found the motive and the murder spree that killed the forensic psychiatrist and he just happened to have that link to John Benet. But as we all know, the media tries

to find links and loopholes and stuff to try to get people to have conversations like we're having now and to cause doubt and stuff like that. But for those of you who haven't read anything about it, I'm just going to give you a little bit of an update. The suspect that killed this forensic psychiatrist actually fatally shot himself on Monday in an area hotel as law enforcement kind of started getting closer to his location. He took his own life and the police believe that he was motivated just like from feeling hostile towards his wife that he divorced eight years ago. Allegedly, he targeted individuals that played roles in the breakup of his marriage and the four day killing spree. So the ex wife reportedly

received $100,000 payment alimony totaling $6,000 per month for five years and a Mercedes in the divorce and the police say he predominantly lived in hotels after his marriage dissolved and three of the victims of this killing spree played pivotal roles in the divorce according to authorities and that included the psychologist who testified in court and two paralegals from the firm representing his ex-wife in the case. So the fourth victim was a marriage counselor and yeah. So basically it has nothing to do with the Jean Bonet case or his role in that. No, I think that like I said before, initially I thought, wow, like they're trying to exhume the body. Somebody's getting nervous. They're going to have this man killed because

he knows information and he's still living. This psychiatrist is like a 56 year old man, something like that. And I really thought that there was like a link there. But I think as we all know, as you know, being a TV personality, I know that the media tries to link whatever they possibly can to get a headline. Oh my gosh. And you know what, Lindsay, if that is not the one thing that you've said this entire week that has touched my life, I think that's it. Literally exactly what I'm going through. So I completely, we both get it being in the public eye, like they really will. Yeah. So even I thought it, I was like, they're exhuming the body. So someone killed him to cover something else up. Yeah. I think you're

right. It has nothing to do with the Jean Bonet case at all. And I think just the media doing what they do best, they are going to tag that name, Jean Bonet Ramsey and these articles because at one time he testified in court and was the forensic psychologist for our psychiatrist, whatever he is, I don't know the difference, you know, in them, but psychiatrists can prescribe medicine and psychologists cannot. Okay, good to know. I don't know what role he really played in the Jean Bonet case, but I just know that that was the link and they found that one link. And then weeks before there was the news about Jean Bonet's body being exhumed and then they tied those two things together because they knew it would

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Most of the time, I'm the one sending the weird stuff, but Kale actually saw this weird thing first and it's such a strange story and it's like so bizarre, but evidently, according to CNN, an FBI agent did a backflip at a club and he was just working on his dance moves in Denver on Saturday. Before he was like launching into a backhand spring, he was just dancing and in mid flip, his weapon flew out from his waistband holster and the agent lunged for his gun when he saw it, you know, come out, but accidentally he fired it and like that's just what happened. He accidentally fired when he went to pick it up and yeah. So one person was he on duty?

He was not on duty. One person was struck in the lower leg but was expected to survive and authorities at the time when the article came out when you saw it had not identified the agent and he was not arrested and he at the time they were saying he may face criminal charges, but now since you've been gone to Europe and whatever, I've investigated a little bit more and the FBI agent has been charged with assault, second degree assault charges. So I don't know exactly why an off duty FBI agent would have been at a bar carrying around a gun and a holster in his pants anyway and then randomly like doing backflips and then his gunfire, I think it honestly was like a freak accident, but but also just like negligent

and super careless, correct? Like if you're an FBI agent, you should be trained enough to know that you should not one be doing backflips in a bar. Like I understand you're having fun and letting loose, but like at his age, you're going at home or he should not be doing backflips in a bar and yes, like leave your gun at home. If you were off duty, he had no business having his gun in a bar drinking, carrying on and obviously he was feeling good to be doing backflips. He had to have been like like tons of drinks deep. Yeah, I mean, just very careless. So I'm not one to speak on carelessness because I've made a lot of careless choices in the past year and everything is coming full circle

to me. So I'm just like, I'm trying not to judge right now. Well, do you want to talk about things coming full circle for you, Kale? I've just been stressed out, Lindsay. I'm super stressed out. I actually, you know, I was hiking up Mount Versa, Versa is it Versa is pursuit Vesuvius. I was hiking up Mount Vesuvius, which is a volcano that destroyed Pompeii in Italy and I was just trying to reflect on my life and I just really the last like year I just didn't give a fuck about anything and I made really dumb choices and I feel like they're all biting me in the ass right now and I get to do it publicly and deal with it publicly and I'm just like struggling

a little bit. So I'm I really just can't judge but also that was really stupid of him, you know, I'm just I'm going through it right now and I'm I'm going to get through it. But you know, I feel like you just make decisions like you don't go through like a long decision making process. Like I feel like you and I are so different in that aspect. Like I literally act like everything is a science project or like I'm writing like a thesis or something like I go through every before I commit or do anything I go through every possibility of what could like happen before I say, Oh yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, and I think over the past, I would, you know, a little less than a year, I don't

think that I was making good choices or like really thinking things through like, okay, I do live my life in the public eye and I need to be wary. Okay, if I do this or I film this or I say this, how will it affect me in my future, even as little as six months from now? And I don't think that I did that. And I think that I made a lot of choices that I regret and I've been feeling super regretful just because they just like weren't me and they weren't good. I just didn't care. Like I was like, I didn't, I didn't realize how it would affect me in the future. And now I'm like, okay, everything's coming full circle. I'm reliving all these things that I did. And I'm like, what the hell was I thinking?

So now I'm going to be more careful and I'm going to make conscious decisions to think things through, understand how they're going to affect me, understand how the media is going to portray me. And it's unfortunate that I have to live like that, but I think that you can help me do that. Like, hey, Lindsay, I might say this on the podcast and then maybe afterwards you're like, okay, Kale, maybe we should edit that part out because you probably shouldn't say that. You know what I mean? Or like, hey, Lindsay, I'm going to film about this and you're like, wait, Kale, that's not really smart. Like I feel like I need to like I need to use your friendship and help to guidance, because I just have not been making

good decisions. And I, you know, everyone in my, and everyone in my life now is going to sign an NDA because you're not about to sell me out. And I just don't want to be bothered with new people coming into my life. Like I just feel like I just need to kind of take a break from people. Like if you're not already in my life, don't try to be in my life. Well, and I think, you know, a lot of people get excited about, you know, making new friends and whatever. I've just never really been that girl. I don't really even care if I have any friends or like if I don't, or if somebody doesn't want to be my friend, like I don't really care. I have everything I need in my household that makes me happy. So that's

where, you know, my happiness is, I don't find my happiness in other people. Like of course I love having like my friend relationships and think that they're super great. And, but don't let them get too close. And I think that's my problem is like, I'm letting people, I like give people the benefit of the doubt and I go against all of my better judgment. I'm like, yeah, they might do something, but I don't actually think they'll come, they'll follow through with it. But you had said something, and I want to say it was on the podcast, but probably off the podcast, you said like, you don't even really let your friends get close to Jackson. And I never understood that because I was like, well, I don't have family. So

my friends are my family. But just like relationships, like you don't want to introduce a relationship to your children too soon. I have regrets about letting certain friends into my kids life because my kids love a lot of my friends. And then we have a fallout and then, you know, they're asking where my, my friends are even going. So it's not just relationships. And I think that I've made, you know, I do have my solid group of friends that have been by my side for, since I basically moved to Delaware, but there are some people who have kind of been in and out. And I think that I'm going to do the same. Like, no, you're not going to come to my house every night. No, I'm not going to introduce you every, you know, to

my kids every time I make a new friend. Like there's no reason for that. And I just moving forward, I want to make better choices and decisions. And I want to, I just feel like I need to go with my gut instinct because I've been going against it a lot. Well, and I think too, like when you become an adult and also when you become a parent, like your dynamic changes, you know, with your friends or it should. And, you know, I don't require that daily interaction with friends. You know, I have, I have girlfriends and we hang out and occasionally go to dinner or whatever, but I kind of make special time for that in my life and there's a time and a place for it. And then other than that,

I focus on Jackson and I focus on, you know, working out and focus on like what kind of meals we're eating and school and work. And I focus on all of those things on a daily basis and, you know, try to be the best person that I can be like, I try to like really focus on myself and like where I can be a better person and, you know, how can I get to church more and how can I, you know, make more time for my Bible and like stuff like that. I focus on those things and that's where I put my energy and my effort and everything else kind of falls into place. And I will say I've lost some friends along the way because of that, but that's okay. Like I'm fine with it because those friends, if they can't, you know, respect

my priorities, then they don't need to be there anyway. I just, I think that I look at us at like your situation or like even Chelsea, like I pretty much anyone that I'm on the show with and even you or like my friends from other shows and they just don't have people, whether they're getting into fights with their friends or fall out or lose touch or whatever, they break up. Like I look at everybody else's situation and I'm like they don't, their people don't sell them out or try to sell them out or try to get them back in that way. And I feel like some of the people that I've been around have done that to me and I think I just need to like reevaluate that and like

the people I have in my life. So I just want to be more careful with the things that I do and, you know, I do have, you know, custody with the boys, dads and stuff. So why not only do like friend stuff when they're with their dads or, you know, have like, you know, if they're going to be certain people, you know, I do want to run my kids, there's certain times for them to come over and be around the kids. So I just need to be more conscious and just do, do better. Well, and I don't know how you have that many people in your house, like in and out constantly, that would drive me absolutely.

It's actually been a while since I've had people in and out. Like it's just because I usually the two boys are with their dads when they come and then it's just the baby, but then I'm like, up late and I regret it in the morning. But yeah, I just don't have, it's like, it kind of like is it in periods and stuff. So but it's been at least a month since I've had anyone really over except for, you know, Chris comes to help with the baby and stuff like that. And yeah, I just, and I feel better, like I like it better when I kind of just have like my peace and quiet or the chaos with the kids. Speaking of peace and quiet, I guess your dog decided to be quiet. Maybe it decided

that it was going to sleep. And your kids like, were they excited to see you whenever you got home? Oh my God, they were so excited, Lindsay. So Lincoln ran up to me was so excited and Isaac too. So I got them a couple things while I was in Europe and one of them. So Isaac and I share like a love of like science. And so when I hiked up Mount Vesuvius, I got him at one of the shops, obviously, I didn't pick up a rock off the ground because that's not allowed. Like a little souvenir of the lava and when it like broke open, it had like crystals inside

of it. And so I was telling Isaac about it and showing him the pictures and he thought it was the coolest thing. And he put the little rock on his nightstand and he was like, this is so awesome. He thought it was so cool. I got them shirts from the countries. They were just super excited. So, and now they're wondering where we're going next and I'm kind of all traveled out for a minute. So I think we're going to, you know, we, I took them to Jamaica already. So I think we're going to just lay low for a little while. Well, Jackson's in church camp for the next two weeks, like this week and then next week. And then we're going to Chattanooga for the weekend, which is just a short little drive

for us. It's like an hour and 30 minutes from home and we're just going to go up for the weekend and maybe just go to like the park. They have a cool children's museum there and just going to go out to some cool dinner spots that we normally don't go to on a weekly basis. And just like a change of scenery, you know, and yeah, that's always good. Just maybe like get ice cream at a different ice cream place that we wouldn't normally go to and just kind of do the same things we would do around home, but just like explore somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. So that'll be so much fun. So since you've been gone, I've been like diving into the whole merchandising side of

the podcast and looking for like shirts and stuff like that. I am more of a relaxed, tight fit t-shirt. If I'm going to wear it, I don't want something super like fitted as a t-shirt. And I have found like three different styles that I absolutely love, but I wanted to ask you, do you think that people like more fitted looking t-shirts? So I'm the same way. I don't want to wear it. If I'm like even right now, I have like a comfortable t-shirt that I got, I think in Maui and it's just like a comfortable relax shirt. It's not tight fitted. And I think people like that. I don't think that the shirts that we would have or the merch that we would have is not going to be like skin tight. You're

going to wear it to go out. I think it's like more comfortable, like doing errands stuff like that. So I feel like the comfortable stuff would be better, but maybe we should take a poll on Instagram. Yeah, I think we just need to see kind of what more people would like because we're going to go with that. And I think we kind of have an idea of the relax fit. Like it's still cute, but it's just, okay, you can throw it on like right now I'm wearing a super relax fit t-shirt with a sports bra and a pair of athletic pants. And I think that's more of the look that we're catering to versus trying to like put together an outfit. This isn't supposed to be, you know, something like that.

This is supposed to be more so like if you went to like a concert and you were going to grab a tea, what would that be? Or like you're traveling and you're grabbing a t-shirt. Yeah, I agree. I think just the comfortable fit, but I think we should take an Instagram poll. We should also wait for the listeners to hear this, tweet us your thoughts and let us know kind of like what you're going to wear if you're going to, you know, get one of our shirts. Yeah, and then a lot of people too were asking price point and we kind of haven't really gotten to that yet. But of course, very affordable. We want to keep the cost as low as possible for you guys and also give you something that's going to last and

be something comfortable that you can wear all the time. I have a friend who is very smart when it comes to merchandising and picking fabrics that will last and it won't be like a one wash type thing and then you won't be able to wear it again. That's super important to us because I know that, you know, things are expensive and people don't want to buy something that's not going to last. Another question that we got too was about coffee cups like would we do tumblers or would we do coffee mugs or I say we do both. Yeah, I think we do both and give one option of a tumbler and one option of a mug. Yeah, I think a lot of people are going away from mugs and doing the types of mugs that are

like the shorter ones that have the lids on the top for, you know, more travel accessible and then I know that I use a tumbler every day. So we just really need to look into, you know, what the options would be for that. A lot of people have asked about our coffee combo cups that are in the pictures on our Instagram and, you know, those you guys can get any time from day one creations. Sweet. Well, I'm excited to catch up next week for coffee combos and thank you guys for listening. We're super excited to get you merchandise and like we've talked about a million times, we are working towards other platforms and other ways to, I don't know, just like be more personal with you guys. So just keep

checking our Instagram. We'll have hopefully soon we'll be doing some type of tour or live thing and we might be coming to a TV screen or computer screen near you. So keep updated, keep, keep your notifications on and we'll talk to you guys next week. All right, bye.