Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 35: Tough Love, MySpace Memories, & Fish Pedicures

Episode Date: July 12, 2018

Kail & Lindsie talk about giving their kids tough love. Kail describes the struggle of taking family pictures. They take it back to middle school & talk about their Myspace profiles. They disc...uss how they bag everything for Goodwill & never take it in. Find out why Kail is looking for a job, but Lindsie thinks it's a phase. They talk about fish pedicures & why they're scary.  Lindsie reveals a scary snake encounter she had. And they discuss declining fertility rates. Go to audible.com/coffee for a deal on the best way to listen to audiobooks!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, good morning. Welcome to Coffee Combos. Lindsay, I think this is the true definition of coffee combos. We're up at the ass crack of dawn on a Saturday. I know. And I'm kind of glad that we're podcasting early this morning because I needed to be up anyway. And I really like to sleep in on Saturdays. I know that we've talked about this on the podcast so much, but I just love to sleep. Like if I could pick a favorite Disney princess, it would be Sleeping Beauty because I wish like I could sleep like that bitch all the time. I feel so bad. I had a meeting with Larry and if you're listening to the podcast and
Starting point is 00:00:45 don't know who Larry is, Larry is, he's a producer, a producer for Teen Mom and literally I call him for everything. But we had a meeting set up for last night for when the kids went to bed. That's why it was so late. And then it ended up running a little bit later than expected. And so Lindsay was like, do you mind? You just want to do it tomorrow? I was like, sure. I'll wake up and both of the, Chris has the baby, but the other two are upstairs sleeping. And I'm like, well, I could be sleeping too. So we're on the same page. I have my coffee right next to me. So if you hear me gulping, that's why. Oh my gosh, I just drank like a large glass of chocolate milk. I drink fat free chocolate milk and it's so good and it's
Starting point is 00:01:28 really an addiction. But I've been trying to cut down on my caffeine intake, trying to limit it to like one soft drink a day and it's been hard. Oh, I bet that's so hard. I, yeah, I was, I feel like I go through like binging with soda. Like I do love carbonated drinks, especially like Coke and ginger ale. So I will like binge for like a week or two weeks, getting them every day, and then I'll stop for like a month. It's so weird. It's so weird, but my body can't like handle it. It's weird. It's like a legitimate almost detox in a sense because I just like crave it so bad. Right. No, I get it. Trust me. So Isaac has a game today. Yeah, Isaac has a basketball game at 1030. I have to say that
Starting point is 00:02:22 the arcade, his game last weekend was was rough on him. He was upset that nobody was passing him the ball and I kind of had to give him some tough love, you know, like, I don't know how much I talked to you about it or if I talked to you about it at all. But, you know, Isaac, he's a good kid, you know, like I really, I don't have a whole lot of problems with him. But the one thing that I will say is he thinks that everything comes easy to him because like in school, for example, like numbers and science and all of that stuff like comes easy to him. So he thinks that when he does things that everything's going to be like that, you know, and I told them, you know, they didn't pass you the ball because
Starting point is 00:03:00 you haven't been practicing. So if you want to be better and you want to get the ball at the games, you have to practice. And if you're not going to put the work in, they're not going to pass you the ball. And he didn't he didn't want to hear it, but I had to tell him. It's so hard, like when you have to do that in sports, because I mean, we talked about it on the podcast before. And I kind of had to give Jackson tough love with baseball because, you know, it's he's not really to the point that Isaac is because he's much younger, but it's just sometimes you just have to give your kids like the honest truth and it's hard.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah, they don't like it. They don't like it. And I mean, I guess if we don't give them the truth, then the world's going to give them the truth, you know, and it's going to be much worse. Well, and that's the thing is like, I would rather Isaac grow up or and Lincoln grow up and looks whatever, you know, for them to have heard it from us their whole life, then for them to be blindsided by like the real world and other people like, no, you're going to learn here at basketball at eight years old that no life, not everything is going to come easy. And some things you're going to have to work harder out. I said, Isaac,
Starting point is 00:04:11 how do you why do you think that the other kids are so good? And he said, because they practice, I said, all right, then, like, I don't Right, it's not like it's not obtainable. It's just like he's not practicing. So practice Yep. So also, I have to say that Thursday, I think it was I went to the beach to take family pictures and it was so ungodly hot like the heat plus the humidity and then we were on the beach. So it was just I made the best, the best I could out of the situation. But it was truly miserable and Lux wanted nothing to do with it. Like he I haven't had family pictures since he was like four months old.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So I was wanting to update the canvases in my house. And absolutely miserable. And then as soon as I got home, I went on your Instagram and I saw the picture of you, you and Jackson on the bench. And first of all, I think that's the cutest picture that I've seen of y'all. Like obviously they're all cute, but that's probably my favorite picture of you guys. And I'm like, it's so easy with one child to take such a you know what I mean? Because like, I'll get a picture with like, first of all, Isaac hates getting his picture taken. And so when we did like the individuals or even like the group shots with the family, like, we finally get Lux to smile. And then Isaac would be doing this like half fake smile
Starting point is 00:05:36 and nothing irks my nerves more. And then yeah, so it was just like a nightmare. And I don't even think that I got on Instagram and saw my picture with my one kid and you're like, yes, and it was perfect. And I was like, damn it. It was so cute. Well, it is easier with one, you know, I mean, I'm not trying to like herd cattle like you are. Yeah, it's definitely a nightmare to try to get, especially with like the heat. I didn't even do my hair for this photo shoot. Like when I show you these pictures, I didn't do my hair because it was that hot that it was like, even if I did it, it was going to look
Starting point is 00:06:13 like it does in the pictures anyway. Oh my God, I'm such a picture freak. Like I love having pictures. I just I've always loved pictures like way before Instagram, like it's not even an Instagram thing. I have always been obsessed with pictures. Even in high school, like I had a Polaroid. I had a regular camera. I always got like the newest version of the digital, you know, like when digital cameras used to be super popular. Oh, yeah, I remember we have to take those things everywhere. Do you remember that? Yeah, everywhere. Is that not so weird that we did that?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Oh my God, I remember we would have to like take pictures on the digital cameras and then upload them to the computers. Oh my gosh, we really did the most for pictures. To Facebook, like to Facebook where you would have like 95 photos on one album and it'd be like the most terrible photos ever. Not Instagram worthy at all. I'm glad it was on Facebook. I would be so embarrassed to like I don't even know if I still have a MySpace account because I think I use like a fake email or something. Like if some I would be mortified if people found me on Facebook. Oh my God, actually, I should go look because that's
Starting point is 00:07:28 like the MySpace days are like when we did that. Oh my God, remember, remember, you could put music on MySpace like when people want to profile. Oh my gosh. You know what, it's so funny. I thought about that the other day. I had this one song that was by Fergie. I think it was called Clumsy. And I had it up on my thing and like that like my grade, we would always like, oh, like when you're done with that song, can I have it? And I remember like everyone wanted that song and I was like, well, I'm not done with it. And so you guys can't have it. I can't remember how we got those. So did we have to pay for them?
Starting point is 00:08:05 The songs? I don't think so. Or was it? Does MySpace delete your delete accounts? I'm not sure because mine is not in existence. Oh my God, I found my. Oh, this can't be mine. Well, that's me. Somebody made up a fake MySpace of you. Photos. Oh my, they changed the layouts and everything, but there's sure as shit. There's pictures here. Well, let's see. Me and Isaac, this can't be me. This has to be like a fake. Oh my God. I'm really on MySpace right now. Do people still use this or? No, I'm pretty sure MySpace is not in existence. And I think it is. I would not be talking to people who is using MySpace.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Ready? Search. Okay. I'm determined. There has to be. I see more. There's an account here, but I don't think that one's mine. Trust me. You would know if it was your MySpace because if you saw it, you would be like, oh yeah, that was it. Well, yeah, that's why I think that the, oh my God, wait. Oh my God, there's a bunch of me. Hold on. I literally just found three accounts in a row. Let's see this one. This is a restricted profile. Okay. So you're a fake. Okay. So if you've previously listened to the show, you've heard me talk about Frambridge.
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Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh my gosh. And right now they have those toys. Yes. They have the toys right now. And so every day he's been like, Mom, can we go to McDonald's and I don't let him eat any meat for McDonald's. It's just, I mean, I grew up eating it. There's nothing wrong with it. I just, we don't eat meat for McDonald's. But he gets french fries and apple slices from there and chocolate milk. So I was like, Jackson, I'm tired of going and getting french fries and apple slices and chocolate milk and buying the happy meal. Like it's just dumb. And he's like, but mom, they have the Incredibles toy. I really want it. And then part of like my childhood like flashback and
Starting point is 00:12:12 I was like, you know what? Get in the car. Fine. Let's go. And so every day for like a solid two weeks, I've taken him to McDonald's to try to collect like the next Incredibles toy. And yesterday, my gosh, he finished collecting the last one and he was so happy. Do you like trade them if he already has one? Yes. Oh my gosh. But like you had to do it because we just talked about how you got to do that as a kid. So that was like perfect. Yeah, I just had to do it. Like there was just something inside of me that was like, you know what? I was allowed to do this as a kid and he really wants to do it. And he didn't even know that like I did that as a kid. I would never tell him because he would
Starting point is 00:12:56 totally be into it. So I never told him that I did that, but it's just kind of funny that he wanted to do the same thing. And he's like, well, mom, now that I have all the Incredibles, then I wonder what's going to come out next. And McDonald's is notorious for any time there's a kid movie that comes out, they have the collection of toys. So I'm just like, great. What have I started? Well, you started a situation where now you're going to have to go get him all the stuff, all the things. I know. I know. It's like not that expensive. Like if I get a drink from there and a happy meal, even though we don't eat the meat, we feed the chicken nuggets to my dog. It's like, it's like less than $5. So I'm like, oh, this is like perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And he thinks he's like won the lottery. So anything to keep the kid happy, huh? I know how it goes. Oh my gosh. So I was talking about getting up early this morning and I was happy about it because this weekend is like my dreaded major cleaning weekend. And like I got up early to clean. Yeah, like I love to clean, but at the same time, it's like I don't really want to spend my whole weekend doing it. But like, I know I need to and I'm cleaning out my storage building. So I need to like get with it and get rid of stuff and take stuff to Goodwill and just like stuff that we don't need. I did my closet. I did my closet yesterday for Goodwill. Yeah, the Goodwill thing. It's just like I will put stuff in
Starting point is 00:14:40 a pile to take to Goodwill and then I won't ever get it to Goodwill. I've done that before too and then it ends up back in the storage unit. Yeah. And I get so frustrated at myself like, damn it, Kay. I'll just take it. You know what I mean? Just take it to Goodwill and just drop it off and never think about it again. Like, so yeah, I want to I'm actually going to move. So I live my house is five bedrooms and I'm going to move when we moved in here. Isaac and Lincoln wanted to share their own. They wanted to share a room because there's at the end of the hallway upstairs is a huge room with two full size beds and then plus the playroom is attached to it. So they both wanted to sleep in there and
Starting point is 00:15:21 now that Isaac's like getting older and he is not having trouble sleeping, but like staying asleep and then Lincoln's in there. So I'm we're going to move him into one of the guest rooms that we have. Well, that I have right next to that room. So I got to clean that room out because right now it's pretty much like storage and a guest room like the closet so big that I put like extra everything in there. And I'm going to clean that out and probably paint it and make it that make that Isaac's room. Well, that'll be nice because once kids kind of get to a certain age, they need their own space anyway, you know, right, right. I think it'll be good for him. If you want an update, I found my actual my space.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Did you really? Yeah, and the pictures I have on here, first of all, I wish I was as fat as I thought I was then. You know what I mean? You were so small. Even after Isaac, like I was so small and I just don't understand. I have a picture with like a magazine of like 16 and pregnant when we were first on it. And then like two of the girls from 16 and pregnant and then there's a picture of me holding baby Jace Janelle son. Oh, wow. At the first reunion. Yeah. And then there's like pictures of like my pot smoking days before I had kids and I'm embarrassed and I don't know how to take them off. I don't want to God because you would have to have the password because I don't have them. I don't even have the email.
Starting point is 00:16:49 The email was fake. So if y'all want to go have a laugh, it's myspace.com slash Kale with two K's and three L's. And who thought that was a good idea? Two K's and three L's. Yeah, I thought I was so cute, you know. I'm just like so. Okay, so let's take a second to talk about the best way to listen to audio books. Audible audio books are a great side kick for summer activities like hiking sunbathing by the pool or the beach running road tripping and enjoying downtime outdoors. Audible has the largest selection of audio books on the planet, which lets you fill your summer with more stories. I love James Patterson books as we just talked about on the last podcast. So this is so exciting for me. If you're someone
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Starting point is 00:19:15 I I feel like the high chair is sentimental. Okay, no. The high chair is not sentimental. It is because it's like where he had his first meal. It's want me not me all but like fed himself. Are you are you wondering where any of your stuff is as was as a baby? Like I don't wonder at all and I didn't save shit of me. I literally have maybe five pictures of myself as a child. I know nothing about myself as a baby and I don't really care. Do you know what I mean? So it's like I just save the things that I think that my kids would unless you think that you want to give it to Jackson for when he has kids, I wouldn't keep it.
Starting point is 00:19:53 No, like this is definitely not something that I would pass down. It's not like the type of high chair I got. I got like a more plastic one because I could clean it better. So it's not like a like something that you would pass down from generation to generation. I definitely won't get rid of the baby bed because that's something that could definitely be used again. But it's like I just have like a major problem with it. I don't know what my hang up is with it. Like I can't even like wrap my head around like throwing it away or like letting somebody else use it or giving it to Goodwill and it like sitting up there and it's like, that's my kid's like, dang.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I just don't think that's like a sentimental, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you because I thought you're going to say, yeah, I thought you were going to tell me like some pictures. Like I try to, even if you have to like let Jackson pick the best ones and you don't tell him what you're doing with the rest or like, I don't know, put them in like a little memory box as I call them. Like a high chair is not something that ever crossed my mind to keep. So I can't help you. Well, I'm weird because I'm such an organized person, but when it comes to like his things and like his baby things, I'm a hoarder of all of those things. Like I have like all
Starting point is 00:21:20 of his baby blankets, like every piece of clothing that he's worn, like all that stuff. Well, we can ask Twitter. We can take a Twitter poll. Should we throw out Lindy's, should we throw out Jackson's high chair or do we keep it? Because it's a we decision now. It's an all inclusive decision. Yeah, I just, I don't know. Like I know the answer is yes, we should, but is it going to happen? Like, maybe not. Maybe not this week, maybe 12 years from now. Next week. Well, what does Will want to keep it? I don't care what Will thinks. That's not important. That's not important to be perfectly honest. So on a completely unrelated note, can we
Starting point is 00:22:29 talk about the video that we saw on Instagram of that woman from mob wives who got in the fight with Vera? Okay, there's a bunch of teen mom rumors that I want to talk about. And I was like semi reading your mind. I knew you were going to bring up something that was like sort of teen mom related, but then also I was like, okay, so Drita from mob wives wants to, first of all, I don't really know what happened. Apparently it was at a strip club and from my understanding, they were getting along and everything was like perfectly fine to each other's faces and then and then fair brand her mouth. Yes. Oh, that's not like fair at all. Well, I don't know her, but I saw that
Starting point is 00:23:22 Instagram video like pop up on my Explorer page and I was like, uh, I'm just choked. I was like, Oh my God. I'm not surprised in the slightest. I someone tweeted me and was like, Oh, someone needs to whoop fair as ass. And I tweeted back not me because I don't I'm I really have been become very obsessed with like crystals and like the powers of them healing and zodiac and all of that stuff. So I don't I don't have it in me to fight or argue with Farrah. I don't really have a need to fight or argue with anybody to be perfectly honest. Well, right, of course, of course. So yeah, I just we should get Drita on the podcast. I would love to just like pick her brain in general.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Not just necessarily about Farrah because we all feel the same way about Farrah. Well, I would just like to actually know what happened to be perfectly honest because there was like multiple different reports that was really hard to like follow the story and like what was really true. True. This is true. So we could have like the the real deal of what happened also in Teen Mom News. Leah posted a picture on Instagram of her new boyfriend. I saw that. But I think it was from an onlooker who took it and sent it to a magazine. Oh, for real? Yeah, because the caption was like thanks to whoever sent this to us weekly or whatever. Please DM me the other photos so that I can have them.
Starting point is 00:25:02 That's one way to go about it. Go Leah. Like I would have been like, I mean, I she must have been like ready for it to come out. I don't know. We should have her on the podcast to talk about that. I personally, I'm happy for her. She posted something else after that that was like, or maybe it was the same thing, but it was like, you know, set standard set and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, I don't want to say too much because I'm not going to blow up her spot, but I am the secret keeper. And I don't know. I'm just really happy for her. Well, I like it because she's waited for a long time to kind of like she focused on her kids and stuff. And so right, it's nice to see her with somebody and like
Starting point is 00:25:43 look happy because she's always just with her kids. Yeah, yeah. No, I agree. And I think it'll be good for her, especially, but he is older. And I think that's like, it's hard to date in our generation. So I'm just so happy that she, because it's hard to date in our generation, but it's also harder to date in our generation and beyond TV because everyone has ulterior motives. So everybody, you have to worry about what everybody is trying to accomplish. Right. And like for someone to you date somebody, they don't, it doesn't work out. Or even you're just friends with somebody and it doesn't work out and then they go online and they sell shit or they bash you or they do this or that. It's
Starting point is 00:26:24 exhausting and it's hard. And so I'm glad that she found, because I don't, I would hope that this man never does her like that, you know, because he's older. He probably has been through some shit in his life. So I don't know, that's good. Okay, y'all, let's take a quick second to talk about one of our favorite partners, Mod Cloth. We have basically been living at our pool this summer. And I know Kayl and her boys have been living at their pool this summer as well. And I have been nonstop checking out Mod Cloth's website for their swimsuits. They have the cutest swimsuits ever, cutest
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Starting point is 00:28:35 Maybe it was something that you were doing and subconsciously you wanted to tell people, but you're like, maybe I shouldn't say it. No, I'm pretty much an open book and I don't think that there's anything that I like. I don't really have too much going on right now. I'm looking for a full-time job and putting my resume out there. A full-time job? Like what? Yeah, I think I want to go back to work. Real work. Not real work, but like I don't ... What? Where is this full-time job going to be at? Truthfully, I would like to get into... I actually don't want to say it because I don't want to be ripped apart by listeners and stuff, but I'll just let you guys know when I hopefully find one. I'm hoping that
Starting point is 00:29:22 once the boys go back to school at the end of August, early September, I can start working. Okay, well, this is a phase. I'm just about to say, are you judging and you go, mm-hmm. Yeah, it's a phase and you might get that job for like two weeks and then you're going to be like, to hell with this. Never mind. I'm going to just be on reality TV for the rest of however long, until I'm like 32 because I've been doing it since I was 16. Yeah, I would just like to... I don't know. I worked all the way up until I was 37 weeks with Lucks or not Lucks. Wow, okay. Lincoln. I'm going on nearly five years of not working. I worked full time up until I gave birth to Lincoln, so I feel like I'm ready. Well, you let me
Starting point is 00:30:23 know how that works out for you and I'll be cheering you on, Kale, from the sidelines and just let me know how it works. It's going to be great. It's going to be great. An update on my toe as well. I did get an acrylic on my toe. So many people tweeted and Instagrammed us about your busted toe. I was on Twitter scrolling, right, and I had forgot to... I forgot that the... I didn't check my email or anything yet and I forgot that the episode had went live. So I'm scrolling on Twitter and I'm like, why are people talking about my toe? Who opened their fucking mouth? And sure as shit, I forgot that the episode where I talked about it and I was like, oh my God. But yeah, I saw so many tweets about acrylics
Starting point is 00:31:12 and stuff. Well, I'll have you know, I went into that little salon and I was like, listen, I need an acrylic on my toe and she's like, yep, it's $5 extra. I said, great, put that bad boy on. Just pop it on there, baby. Yeah, and you can't even tell. Can I tell you that I saw this one thing. It was either on Instagram or Twitter over the weekend about the fish pedicure that a girl lost her toenail from that because it had fungus, like the fish pedicure or whatever. What the fuck is that? You know, where the fish eat the stuff off your feet? No, I don't know about that. Why would... Absolutely not. They have them in like foreign countries, I think, but then... I'm gonna Google it. Hold on. Yeah, Google.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Fish pedicure. Can you hear me typing? Oh my God. And this is like... Report women gets fish pedicure which causes her toenail to fall off. Okay, first of all, you assume that risk, right? You went to a fish pedicure and they eat flesh or they eat whatever, like dead skin. Well, I think what happened though, I think what happened was they eat the fungus. So she had a fungus under her big toe or something and the fish just kept eating away at her big toenail and I think that's why it fell off. Okay, well, I don't feel bad for her. Well, first of all... First of all, how are you putting the fish... Are they going in the pedicure bowls? Yes, and do they change the fish? No, they're not. Yes, they do. Do
Starting point is 00:33:02 they change the fish or... Those fish probably die left and right in those fucking bowls. That's animal cruelty. That's just nasty is what it is. If that's what you want to do, you need to go to walk through the beach or something and let... First of all, if you walk through some sand, it's basically like a natural exfoliator. So go to the freaking beach. I can't. We just need to open a nail salon. I'm so sick of this. I'm so sick of this. Like so many people losing toenails. So many people getting funguses. It's too much. It really is. I'm literally looking up this article. These fish are omnivores and in their natural habitat and just plankton. But when there's no plant life around, they'll eat
Starting point is 00:33:49 human skin. Nibbling away at calluses and rough cuticles for what's billed as a natural beauty treatment. No, I just don't know how I feel about this. If you already have fungus and your nails are coming off, those fish don't know. That's not the fish's fault. No, that's her busted toes fault. Oh, wait. It says the fish pedicure is most likely... Is the most likely cause of her onkyo... I don't know what the fuck that word is. Based on the timing and pedicure and the clinical presentation of her nails. No, I'm sorry, but I just... You probably already had fungus and they were probably dead. So I don't know what the fuck you're expecting. Anyways, moving on. Can I talk about the snake sighting that I saw
Starting point is 00:34:49 over the weekend? Snakes? Yes, snake. Okay, I'm ready. I'm terrified of snakes and I've always been terrified of snakes. You know, Will was bitten by a copperhead two summers ago and was... You're lying. No, no, no, I swear. He was bit by a copperhead at his parents' house. We had filed for divorce and he was with his parents and I was in Tennessee with my parents and he had never been hurt before, ever, and in all the years we had been together and I get a call and I was filming Christina's Best at the time and he said that he needed his insurance card and he had been bit by a copperhead. So he was in the hospital for like 48 or 72 hours. I can't remember, but it was like this long process. So even
Starting point is 00:35:48 more so after that, I was even more scared of snakes. Also over the weekend, we were at the lake and I don't know about you, but I don't like getting in water like the ocean. But you can't see it? Yeah, like the ocean or like the lake. If I can't see the bottom of the ocean or the lake, I don't want to get in. I don't like water that I can't see in. It scares me to death. I don't know what's under there. Take me to the Bahamas, take me somewhere that like has clear water. You can see I'll get in. I'll get in all day long. I will not get in water that is like murky or like you can't see the bottom. You can't see your feet. No, thank you. No. So I guess at some point, Jackson has heard me say this.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And so he has now adopted that thinking. And I didn't even know that he'd heard me say this. So he's terrified and he's like, I don't want to get in the water. I don't want to get in the water. So we're riding through the lake and look over and there is a snake going across the water and it's like flailing like in the water. And we're like, what is that? What is that? So we go over there and get closer so that we can see like what's going on. It was fighting a fish because it had killed a fish and it was like fighting a fish. I have a picture of the snake with the fish in its mouth. Like you can see it like so clear. And I was like, oh my God, like seriously, it's so scary. You have no
Starting point is 00:37:33 idea like what's really out there. But what if we had gotten out like in a cove like that and we're in the water and then that like snake came across the water? No, absolutely not. No, absolutely not. I'm not really a fan of stuff like that to be perfectly honest. I don't blame you. I'm not either. Ew. But I will say I did get in the water, but in the large open water because if the water is like fast moving chances of like a snake or you know, something like that, like being underneath the water is slim to nine because like alligators and stuff like that, they're going to be in like the coves where the water is like really slow and there's like nothing going on like swamp like area. So I did get
Starting point is 00:38:21 in the open water because I wanted Jackson to know like, oh, it's okay. Like I didn't want him to be terrified, but at the same time I was scared to death like in that water. Right. Yeah. I was having an internal panic attack. Well, are you ever going to go back there again or? Yeah, I mean, of course I'll go back, but it's really scary to see stuff like that. I was like, and then there's been so many news stories about kids and like people getting bit by snakes. Like this season there was one kid that was at a lake that's not like too terribly far for me that was Jackson's age that got bit by a baby copperhead and he was in ICU and I don't even know if he
Starting point is 00:39:08 survived. Like I haven't followed up with it, but they administered anti venom like multiple times and apparently with the babies, if it's a venomous snake, they don't know how to release their venom. So they release like too much whereas an adult knows like how to. So. Right. Right. This kid got this little boy who's five years old got bit by a copperhead and it was a baby copperhead. So they're like much more poisonous, I guess, because they release like all of their venom when they bite. So then do they, does the venom come back like they get more? I don't know. I was going to look that up because I don't really know how that works if like they develop more. You know what I mean? Like if it's one time
Starting point is 00:40:03 thing in their body or if it comes back. Surely if they inject their prey with it, they would have to like they would have to keep reproducing it. Well, I would think so because that's like their defense mechanism, you know, so I would, I would think I'll look it up and I'll let you know next time we talk. So everyone loves bio clarity, right? Let's talk about it. You guys, we talk about bio clarity so much because we actually do absolutely love it. What is easier than having an awesome skincare regimen delivered straight to you and it's an easy three step skincare routine. That's 100% vegan plus it's gluten and cruelty free.
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Starting point is 00:42:12 But apparently, it was intended more so for like mobility issues or like people with disability. So I can like understand that for them not have to get out. But apparently for future it is going to be used for also for people who have a time limit or like they're short on time that they can like drive through and pay their respects. Yeah, I'm not into it. I'm not into it either because I feel like I can understand like the disabilities or whatever to be able to drive through because it is very hard, you know, to like go into a place like a funeral home. And also, you know, like if they have to get like a wheelchair,
Starting point is 00:42:59 like whatever, like I can understand that. But to be able to use it just because you're short on time, if you're that short on time, then you shouldn't be going because it's not that important to you. Right. I mean, that's just kind of, no, I'm not into it. I don't, I don't buy it. And you said they're in Japan. It's in Japan. Yeah. Could you imagine like going to someone's funeral and just like driving your car through a drive through, like you're going to like get a soft drink and like for that, I would just not go to the funeral and then go pay my respects after
Starting point is 00:43:35 they've been buried. You know what I mean? Yeah, because I just think it's disrespectful, don't you? Yeah, I would be pissed. I'd be so hurt. I mean, after the fact, you know, not in the moment I wouldn't because your attention is on something else. But after the fact that I would feel some type of way, like, no, not into it. And then on a completely unrelated note, I saw something else about Americans having fewer babies. And I literally just said this like a few weeks ago, how I feel like people
Starting point is 00:44:06 are more cautious now than back. Yeah, they have to be like in like the 80s or 90s, like people were just like pooping out kids. And now I feel like people are so much more cautious. And then I was randomly like scrolling on New York Times and saw this article about Americans having fewer babies. And at first, researchers thought that the declining fertility rate was because of the recession. But even as the economy recovered, like it was still declining. So as of now, for the second consecutive year, it's reached a record low. And like, because of fertility rate.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Is it though, because I feel like there's definitely other. So my friend and I just talked about this yesterday, she's been married for two years, and they want to have a baby. But she was like, our, our student loans are so high that they can't afford to have a baby right now. So this was what the article actually that's interesting, because it's what the article was saying wanting more leisure time, personal freedom, not having a partner yet or not being able to afford childcare costs, for top reasons young adults gave for not wanting, not wanting or not sure if they wanted children, that it was a new survey conducted by a morning
Starting point is 00:45:30 consult for the New York Times. And then also on that list was what you just said, like paying for school, prioritizing education and career was on there. No, no, but leave. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure that obviously those are all those are all factors. But like what she was saying was, you know, they do want children. And that is something that they want. But they can like, what are they going to, they literally are barely making ends meet now, which they shouldn't even be struggling the way they are. But because of student loans and the interest and all of that stuff, like, I mean, to me, I gave her credit because I
Starting point is 00:46:10 said most people would just have a kid anyway, even if they're financially struggling. But she I mean, she said that the student loans are like, killing them right now. Like they're just like, I, and then I was talking to, well, I won't mention names, because I don't want them to feel some type of way. But I was talking to somebody about his student loans. And I'm like, I'm blown away because first of all, my friend that just graduated that graduated last year, a whole year and a half before me and him, just now found a full time job and she has to move to Florida for that. So it's like you, you're going a year and a half, but Sally may wants her her money six months after they graduate, right? You know what
Starting point is 00:46:54 I mean? So it's like, how do these people, like, how do you really plan anything when your people are struggling to find jobs? And then they find them. But, you know, student loans are not good on your doors six months after you graduate. So it's like, what can you really do? And then to think about kids on top of that is so hard. It is so hard and kids are so expensive, you know, I just, I think it's interesting now that I don't know if it's because we have more access to like technology and there's just like more knowledge there, but like to have such a huge shift from like the eighties to nineties to now with people having such fewer kids, because it was not abnormal, like
Starting point is 00:47:36 in the eighties or nineties for people to have like five or six kids, five, six, yeah. Now you see people not having kids at all or having like one child or two kids, like for me, example. Yeah. And being done. Yeah. Yeah, I know a lot of people that just have like one or two and I'm like, okay. And like, that's fine. Like, I don't know. I just, I thought it was super interesting that it was such a huge shift. And don't y'all talk about like on teen mom or something about how it's contributed to like a decline in teen pregnancy? I don't know if that so much has a decline in teen pregnancy. I don't know. I know that there's a, we're at an all time low for teen pregnancy. I do know that, but
Starting point is 00:48:26 I don't know if it's directly related to like those same issues or if it's the show or I don't know what it is because, but I mean, it makes sense, all of it. And maybe to, there's just more like awareness because people like talk about it, you know, right, right. I don't know. Yeah. And then, you know, how we were talking about last week about will not having an iPhone, how he has like an Android or whatever. Yeah, we're gonna get him an iPhone for Christmas. He hates an iPhone. I'm not buying him anything, but I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But then I saw on the verge about the Samsung phones randomly sending your camera roll photos to your contacts without having permission. No, you're lying. Oh, no, baby girl. I would
Starting point is 00:49:23 literally fall over and die. Like one of the users reported that his phone sent all of his photos to his girlfriend. Oh, well, I mean, thank God it was only his girlfriend, although he better not have been cheating because he would have been cut up. The messages are being sent through Samsung's default texting app Samsung messages. According to reports, the messages app does not even show users that files have been sent. Many just find out after they get a response from the recipient of the random photos sent to them. Could you imagine that? Well, I mean, if my boyfriend, I don't have a boyfriend, but if I did have one or a girlfriend and they were cheating, I would hope that it would get sent to me. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:13 could you just imagine that like, there's nothing even suspicious on my phone, but just like the screenshots of stuff. Oh, people would probably if people saw my screenshots, they would be like, what the fuck kind of shit is kale on? And because I just screenshot the most random shit. Me too. Like it might just be funny or it's like something you've never seen before and you just screenshot it and you just have it and you forget to delete it and then it's there and people are like, what are you on? Apparently, the phones that are doing it are the galaxy s seven and s seven edge, I think will has the galaxy. Oh, good. I can't wait. I hope is I hope it. Me too. Yeah, I hope it gets sent to you.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Could you imagine? Is that not so funny, though? Like it's not funny, but it's funny because I don't have it. I don't have any Android. So like, I don't really care or say I'm saying whatever it is. Well, I don't know why we'll like some Android. Actually, I know a will who I had like, you know, a lot of my friends don't have kids. Well, the other day, like not the other day, Fourth of July, I had friends over that were all parents. And I don't know what just like felt like good to be with like parents that can relate and we're just like talking about different things as I don't know. Anyway, long story short, one of the parents, his name is will and he actually sold me my past two cars. He also has an Android
Starting point is 00:51:41 and I would like give him shit for it all the time. Like what is the like wills with androids? Yeah, I don't know. Like I don't get it. I don't even know how to operate that phone. Like I wouldn't even know they're so complicated. I don't understand. Like they're like, Oh, look at the camera. And it's like, I don't care. I want simplicity and iPhone offers simplicity and like so simple like an Android is like more complicated and like the customization like that stuff bothers me like just simple like design is way better to me. Even if I wanted to like spy on Android, like I wouldn't even know how because I don't
Starting point is 00:52:19 even know how to like get in it. Yeah, I would never know how like if I wanted to go through someone's phone that has an Android, I'd never know how to hack it ever. Me either. I just feel like it would just be like such a difficult process. It would be like more stress than like what it's even worth like what I'm gonna find. Right, right. So have you have you ever like gone through somebody's phone? Yeah, for sure. You said yeah, for sure. For sure have and I like it's well it's like weird because back when hobby tried to like look through my phone, I was like, you don't know privacy and like I wasn't hiding anything. I made it. I definitely made it seem like I was hiding something. And so I was like
Starting point is 00:53:03 hindsight is always 2020. Right. So like I really made myself look suspicious as hell. And now I like if someone leaves there, not I shouldn't say have someone like when Chris used to leave his phone or like hobby is left his phone when we weren't even together, but like you left it. So it's not my fault that you don't have a password and I would go through it. So and I've said that before, like whatever. But like now after I did it, like I've done it, I feel like now I've been on both sides. I'm like, okay, I've had my phone try to be gone through hobbies gone through my phone. I am good on going through phones like I'm done invading people's privacy. Well, it's not my fault that you left it sitting there.
Starting point is 00:53:44 My finger slipped over to the Android like not my fault. Sometimes like will you like will his left his phone like laying around before? And I don't even like I go to click on it. And then the password stuff looks too complicated. So I'm just like, ah, the hell with it, forget it. Yeah, you're like over it. Yeah, it's like a thought that lasts for like 10 seconds. And I'm like, you know what, I don't even care at this point, like whatever. I want to know like, I need people to tweet us like first of all, if you're going to bash me about going through phones, just don't because I'm not going to bother responding. But like, do you guys go through your significant other's phones? Have you gone through somebody's
Starting point is 00:54:29 phone? My thoughts now about going through phones are just like, I shouldn't feel the urge to go through your phone. You know what I mean? If I feel the need to do it, right, I feel like there's already something there, right, right. Right. And that's how I that's how I was feeling at the time. And literally every time that I felt like that and I went through it, I found something. And so like, I shouldn't, I should trust you 100% that I don't feel like I have to go through your phone. And like, I just don't know, like people, I'm not going to like go through your naked pictures or anything like that. But like, if I feel like I'm, there's a reason like to that I need to go through it, then I probably
Starting point is 00:55:12 do and you're probably hiding something. And there's never been a time where I've gone through a phone and not found something. Well, and and something being like something being like a make or break, you know what I mean? Like something that's a big deal, not something that's like, Oh, you said that I was getting on your nerves, like nothing like that, like full something that we shouldn't even be together about. Like I was getting on your nerves. That's probably like a constant text. Oh, you getting on. Yeah. Yeah, same. Like I'm probably yeah, for me too. So like, do I even sound remotely interested?
Starting point is 00:55:50 No, not at all. Yeah, I don't care at all. Well, I think we've ran out of time. So it's been real. Glad I was able to catch up with you. Can't wait until after next week because we're getting closer to being able to see each other. It's been a while. I know we got to get some cool pics on our non androids on our non Android. I know exactly. So if you guys are listening, make sure that you follow on our Instagram at coffee combos podcast. If you have not given a five star rating on itunes, make sure that you go on there and do that for us. Please, please, please. And written reviews are great as well.
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