Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 40: Teen Mom OG’s Maci Bookout McKinney, Shark Tank, & Baby Fever

Episode Date: August 9, 2018

Teen Mom OG's Maci Bookout McKinney talks about social media, marriage, & her kids. Maci updates us on her adoption plans. They discuss their feelings on Bristol Palin joining the cast, the live video Farrah posted at the vet, & what is going on with Ryan. Maci reveals what we can expect for the new season. They discuss Javi's timeline & how messy it was. Kail reveals why she hooked up w/ Javi. Lindsie talks about crying on camera & Kail explains why she cries at everything. 

Hey, guys, welcome to Coffee Combos. We're back with another episode and we have another special guest today, Macy Bookout McKinney from Teen Mom OG. Hi. Welcome. Thank you for saying McKinney. No one ever says McKinney. Really? Ever. I feel like that's like you're married. That's a thing. Right. But like your famous name I guess is Macy Bookout. Yeah. I use that for like my books and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Still like no one ever said that. It kind of drives me nuts. We had this conversation actually before about getting married and if you- Using your name. Yeah, and using like your married name. So if you are already known in the public eye as Macy Bookout, like is it weird to then just go

to Macy McKinney? Macy McKinney. Is it hyphenated or did you change your last name? I changed my last name. Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. But Bookout is my middle name. Oh, so you changed your whole name. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that's the way to do it. I dropped my middle too. Because DeShane is cool. It's DeShon. DeShon. Oh, wow. Everyone thinks it's DeShane, but I, that's my name for a reason. Like that's my middle name for a very serious reason. So it was really hard to lose that. So I kind of just say I have four names now. Yeah. In my mind I have four names. You dropped your middle name too? Yeah. What was your middle name? That's like Brooke. And you don't have that anymore? No, it doesn't exist. Oh, wow. The

limit does not exist. Did you not like it? No, I liked it, but I guess I just wanted to keep my last name, but I knew I wasn't a hyphenator. So yeah. Got it. I wanted to still have it. So that's all my way. I didn't ever change my name when I got married, because I knew I didn't like him that much. Well, then there's that. Yeah, I just kept Lowry. The proof is in the pudding. So what's going on? What's new? Oh, Lord, a lot actually. We randomly out of nowhere with no intention of doing so are selling our house and moving into another house. Okay. This is like just because. Well, we had bought land to build and we were looking at houses like for ideas for when we build and we fell in love with

the house. So what are you doing with the land? We're keeping it because property where we live is like going. The value is going up by the minute because the area is growing very fast. So I mean, if anything, it's just an investment. So we are leaving for vacation on Saturday. It's our first vacation in years with all three. No, no way. No, this is the first vacation with no kids. Well, yeah, in like two years, two and a half years. We're going to reconnect. Oh, wow. You'll have to let us know how that is. Yeah, Taylor said, I wonder if there's a tour like meet Rihanna tour. I'm like, if we did that, then I would lose my husband. You know, she watches team mom, right? He's in love with her. Yeah. Yes,

I literally just watched it's an episode. It was like a special with Nessa and it was called all the times team mom broke the internet and Rihanna like posted Janelle on her when she was doing the Kesha like feathers in her hair thing. Yeah, she put Rihanna posted it on her Instagram. Oh my God. I can't picture Taylor like every time I think of Janelle. I can't picture Taylor like walling out at a Rihanna concert. But that would be so funny. I should film that. I feel like now that you just said that, I kind of just want to go to Rihanna concert just to see how he would act because I want to be a fly on the wall for that. Yeah, like he's in love with her like, no, because when we did the the after

show, the TRL after show, they did like a not a kill Mary, whatever, but it was something else. And it was Rihanna Taylor Swift and Katy Perry. And I know he likes Katy Perry too. And I somebody one of the producers asked me before like, we want to get your prediction on what he's going to say. I'm like, well, Taylor Swift's going to be the whatever they did different. He's going to marry Katy Perry. And he's going to Yeah, we can say yeah, I like this all the time. Okay, kill makes us close it every week. I cuss I say the F bomb every day. No, I've like the worst mouth in the world. So I don't have to be conscious of that. So not at all. Like he would totally fuck Rihanna. I think I would fuck Rihanna.

So it's fine. I think I wouldn't. Oh my gosh. This is awesome. Yeah. So that's awesome. Okay, well Barbados, I want to go. Same Barbados. Come on. We should crash their party. We should record the next episode of coffee combos in Barbados in Barbados, where you're going to follow your husband around. I'll be there all week. So what's new with the kids? So there's Bentley, Jade, Maverick. I have not met the little two yet, but they're like super close in age, right? They have they're a year and two days apart. So they were both born in the same month. Yes. Oh, wow. Jade is May 29. Maverick is May 31. The only way I remember that because it gets really confusing is that Jade was born before Maverick. And she's she's

the 29th. Oh, I get it. So like she's older. So she was born first. Yeah, 29th. And he's the 31st. His due date was actually her birthday. Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm like, what a gentleman not stealing the shine from her. And then Bentley is nine, nine, he'll be 10 in October. Oh, my gosh. Wait, did I see something about you guys wanting to possibly adopt? Is that Oh, yeah, that was a big question on social media for you was like, what where does that stand? We definitely still want to adopt. But it's going to be down the road because we don't want to adopt a baby. We want to adopt like a child. Sure. So we want to make sure that like our family is like in no one's ever in a perfect position, but in like a really

good position to do so because adopting a child is huge deal. It's a very big commitment. So we just don't know what problems are going to come with it, you know, exactly like what how we're going to deal with and help them grow through their past and some of the stuff they may have gone through. So but yeah, we definitely still want to. Everyone's asking how you feel about all the teen mom stuff going on. Yeah. They were asking how you felt about Bristol. We talked about it a little bit. Yeah, we talked about our last episode. I mean, to be honest with you, I don't really care. Like if other people join the cast, I think me and Caitlin and Amber are pretty much on the same page. Like if they bring

in new cast members, then we don't want it to be called Teen Mom OG because they're not the original girl. That's not true. And like we don't really care who joins because in our minds we're like if somebody is presented with the opportunity or like say one of us was never on the show and they asked us like no one's going to turn the opportunity down. You can't be mad at somebody for accepting an opportunity. I think we're all kind of just on the same front in that we were never called like before it was released. Like even if you like they know when it's going to come out, they know when the official release is coming out. So like an hour before call us, give us a call. We're like, Hey, by the way,

this is who your new cast members going to be is being released today. Well, I mean, I feel the same way about and we've been doing this for 10 years. Yeah. And it's so it's, you know, even when like episodes air, like that special that aired, I had no idea that was coming out and I hadn't like, just call us and let us know. That's like my biggest thing. I know that there was talks about Corey and Cheyenne from the challenge coming onto. But that I'm, I was wondering why that didn't come out in the press the way that Bristol's did. Well, because Bristol because nothing's been confirmed with Corey and Cheyenne, but I think it's because of public. Yeah, I think because Bristol Palin has such a, like people

know who she is. Yeah. She comes from, right? I mean, her mom ran for vice president. So I think it's just a bit bigger deal than fellow MTV stars. Sure. Okay. Well, I would be salty. I'm going to be honest. Like, yeah, I was a teen mom and I had been doing it for 10 years and then somebody came on my cast that feels some type of way. Yeah. I would feel a type of way because I just feel like they get all of the same notoriety that have like followed you guys, you know, like, I don't know. But at the same time, I see the other side of it too that who's going to turn down the opportunity. Yeah. I mean, surely when they presented Brianna with the opportunity, she wasn't going to turn it down. Right. Yeah. Oh, that's all

the restory God. Tell us how you really feel. Yeah. Well, I really feel like I'm not going to be mad about anybody joining because anybody's better than Farrah. Wow. Did you guys see in the news about something about her dog dying? I heard Sophia throw through the dog outside or something. Oh, I don't know. I have no idea what happened to the dog. I just heard that she posted a live video of her and Sophia at the vet when they were putting it to sleep, which is really sad. But like I, I've been in that situation before and had to do like make that decision. Yeah. And it never crossed my mind. Oh, I should probably get on Instagram live. Yeah. No, who does that? Farrah does that. Vaginal rejuvenation

on Instagram. Yeah. So she's done a lot of things. I mean, maybe not live, but that we wouldn't do. Right. And then I saw like something on TMZ that she was going to like a taxi Dermis or something like for the dog. To stuff it. No. I swear. I swear. I saw it. And it was on TMZ and it was her and Sophia walking into the taxi Dermis. I don't even know if that's the word. Taxidermist. Taxidermist. Yeah, that. And Sophia had on like little short blue jean shorts on and like they were like really short and she looked grown like the baby looked grown. Well, she's probably 10. Yeah. I mean, I was just shocked when I saw that. You know, it's like, cause you think of kids, you know, and yeah, they were

walking in and I was like, who would stuff their pet? Like I could understand like people do it. People are weird. Lindsay, you're weird. Well, I know I'm weird, but not that kind of weird. True. Like that's pretty weird. Plus, I feel like it would just make me sad all the time. Yeah. To just see your dog or I would just go completely insane and like pretend like it was still alive. And then that's a whole nother story. Yeah. Like there's a whole lot of lines being crossed here guys. Oh man. Okay guys, so if you're in the market for a new bra and aren't we all, it's really time that you skip the trip and find your perfect fit in 60 seconds. Get online, go to thirdlove.com order and try it on at home.

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or fiance's or are completely single. So we've got like a good group of like mixture with our with our friends and it's a shit show sometimes. I bet. I mean, it's a shit show for me right now. So I get it. Literally. Literally. Kale's going full bridesmaid. Street. So a couple days ago, I read and you can tell me to fuck off, you know, to tell me we saw that there was some stuff about Ryan getting arrested. How much are you willing to tell us about that? And how or or it doesn't have to be negative. I mean, is he doing better? Is he pretty much the same? Like what what's going on? I'll be honest. I have no idea. Like what state he's in because I mean, we he's not allowed to be around. So he can't

be in Tennessee. No, like he can't just be in the same location. Got it. Okay. Sure. Me and the family. But so I don't I have no idea. He's not allowed to contact us or anything like that. But I mean, he did get arrested. I don't know. I mean, I I do know why, but I just don't want to say. Okay. But to be honest with you, I think I'm I feel better that he is in jail because I know, like, I know he's safe there. Right. If that makes sense, like, you know, he's not driving around. He's not, you know, doing something that could potentially really hurt him or an innocent person. Right. So it sucks crappy situation for everyone. But I mean, despite the fact that you got, you know, he he has his stuff

going on, that is the father of your child. So obviously, you don't wish him ill will know or anything like that. Not at all. I mean, it's Bentley's dad. And although Bentley's about to be 10, I'm not sure how much time he can make up now. But still, I mean, no one ever wants to tell their child that something terrible is happening to their parent. Does Bentley ask a lot of questions about him? Or does he kind of understand or like, what does that look like? No, he understands. He doesn't. He doesn't ever ask questions. We fill him in on what's going on. And as sad as it is, he the reason he doesn't really ask questions is because it's kind of just always been this way. Yeah, like he it's

his norm because he right. But he anytime anything has ever like gone on that's really bad. His really his main concern is being able to spend time with his Mimi and Papa. And so Taylor and I and Jen and Larry always just make sure to for us to always be on the same page. Yeah. I mean, we're not always going to get along or agree with each other. But the four of us do a really good job of making sure that everything is good for Bentley and that Bentley still gets to spend time with them. And in that aspect, everything is normal for Bentley because good. Again, that is what he's used to sure is being able to see Jen and Larry is Bentley is their only grandchild, right? Yeah, right now. And Mackenzie

has a son Hudson who they spend a lot of time with got it. And then that's what he's expecting. So oh, okay, the second got it grandchild in October, I think. I think October. And do you have a relationship with Mackenzie or is that? No, no, okay. Negative. No. I feel like that's everyone asked me about like Harvey's girlfriend who's expecting. And I'm like, no, there's no reason, I guess, for me to really have any contact with her. No, I mean, maybe when the baby comes. Yeah, like for you. Yeah. I mean, in my in my situation. I mean, somebody shows you who they are, I believe them the first time. So I'm given a good distance. Yeah. And I don't blame you for sure. I also me and Taylor have talked

about this. It's going to be tough when the baby is born because just like Jada Maverick Hudson is his step brother. This baby is going to be his half brother. And we don't like to say step step or half like, yeah, I don't like that either. It's brother, sister, brother, sister, like no matter what. So it's it will be, I think, a struggle to try to find a way to make sure that no matter what's going on with Ryan, that Bentley has a relationship with his brother. Yeah, got it. Both brothers really Hudson and the new baby. So okay, so are you guys picky about what you use in your home? Because we are especially Lindsay. The Grove believes a healthy, beautiful home should be accessible to everybody. And that's why

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fix someone. Right. I'm a fixer. I couldn't fix him. I left. And then I continued to try to fix them even though it wasn't like I wanted to be in a relationship with him. But I wanted the best for Bentley. And I wanted things to be easy on me and him, you know, I didn't want to rip his eyeballs out of his face every time I saw him. And I know he felt the same way about me. Oh, yeah, I mean, I have three baby dads, so I want to rip all there. I get it. I feel like Joe, though, y'all are doing really well. Yeah, we do. We do pretty well. I mean, it took us a long time to get where we were. But I always looked up to you in, you know, your situation because I felt like if I could just take my own feelings out of

it, and I'm not always going to win, I'm not always going to get my way. And at the end of the day, you know, the child is who matters. Right. But yeah, I mean, I it's weird because Joe and Javier neighbors and wait, like, wait, literal neighbors. Yeah, no. Yeah, you line. I'm not. Oh, God. So they're neighbors. And yeah. How long have they been neighbors? Um, five years. And why his team? I'm not like made this right. Like they don't like show that. So like I do, there are times where they get the kids together or they do something when it's not my week. And I do, I wouldn't say jealous is the word, but I do get uncomfortable. Like, y'all didn't let me know. Like just let me know because I do, I do sometimes feel

ganged up on when they meet or whatever they get together. So, um, but yeah, I mean, Javi and I, ever since he's been with his new girlfriend, I've been thankful because I feel like he leaves me alone. And now I, it's almost like neither one of them bought, like I work and I'm not bothered. And I mind my business. They mind their business. And we just communicate about the kids. Yeah. So I kind of like it. It like closed the door officially. Yes. 100 percent. Yeah. I thought the same thing with when Ryan and McKenzie started dating. Yeah. Like how that turned out. I mean, hopefully it doesn't turn out that way for you though. Oh my gosh. Hopefully not. I don't know. I have no desire to meet his girlfriend. I

don't want any kind of relationship with her. But I obviously, when Lincoln comes to my house, I'm like, Oh, you're excited for your little brother. Like happy about it, whatever. But yeah, I just don't need a relationship with her right now. I mean, I think Javi is like, I don't know him well, but like he's a nice guy. But is it weird that like, do you feel how I'm feeling that like if you and his girlfriend met each other and had a relationship like without Javi ever, like ever being involved, it would actually be okay. You know what I mean? Right. Oh, like, would y'all be friends? Not friends, but you know, be able to like have a decent solid like co parent in a weird way relationship.

Javi wasn't involved. Like, not even in the meeting. Like you guys go meet each other. He's not there every time you see each other. You know what I mean? Yeah, I just think that Javi was very messy in the timeline. And so I think that she's not really truly sure about it. Oh yeah. I know on my end, like there was, I wasn't getting back together with him. But yeah, it was like fate getting back together because of convenience, whatever. I think that might be a little weird for her. And just the way that everything's playing out on the show right now is like, did you watch Teen Mom 2 last week? I had not my days. Okay. So on the episode, it shows Javi like the timeline is so crazy. It shows Javi going

to Miami and him being with Brianna, him telling Brianna that, you know, basically if she doesn't want to be with him, he has somebody else that will be with him that will move to Delaware. And this is all right after I said that I hooked up with him. This is all right. Do you just like try to propose? Yes. So then he tells Brianna that he has another girl that would move to Delaware basically tomorrow. And in the meantime, he's hooked up with Kale and then jetted off to Miami. And we found out, Kale and I found out that he was in Miami via Dr. Miami Snapchat. Yeah, he told me he was going to LA. He lied. He lied. It's just a clusterfuck to be honest.

We don't have to talk about him anymore. It's not even worth the energy. I just want to know one thing like when you hooked up with it, like just because you needed someone to hook up with, I think it was where you recycling. I, you know, I, I'm not, yeah, I just, there's nothing wrong with recycling. It was a recycle move. I wish I didn't do it. I didn't feel anything. I didn't want, even though we talked about like, it was horrible. Like, and I quote unquote, like we talked about getting back together, but I was, I was never getting back with him. I was miserable and he probably was too. And it just like wasn't going to work. Attention is attention.

Yeah. To I think a lot. I think everyone's been there. I just, I don't know. I feel like then talking about it, I didn't, I shouldn't have talked about it on the show. But would you agree though that a lot that played into it was the fact that Harvey would raise anybody's kid. Yeah. Like so she had Lux and he was willing to raise Lux and it was just like, whoa.

Yeah. You know, who's going to sign up for that? Because not many men are going to go back to a situation that somebody's had another kid and then they're going to take that on as their own too. Yeah. So it was a shit show. I'm glad that's over. Like I'm happy he's where he's at now. Learn something new every day. Some things you want to learn and some things you don't.

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So what else is new? You're going to Barbados and you have TTM things that matter. Your clothing line. How's that doing? It's doing really well. We have moved all of our manufacturing and distribution to Jacksonville. Oh, wow. There's a warehouse on there where everything happens and we're coming out with a lot of

new, like this fall, it's going to be a lot of custom stuff like where we're actually making the clothes now. So it's like a whole new ball game now. Like we're not just having to like pick and choose and then really just focus on like logos and design. Now we can actually make the product too. So I'm really excited about that because I don't know. This is the first, you brought a box for Lindsay and I.

So I'm excited. Javi wears it all the time. And so it was a little salty because I was like, I don't want, I want to wear it, not you. But so, but I'm excited to to rep TTM. I'm telling you, I mean, this stuff until we get like our custom stuff out, we've always been like, I don't want to say a basics brand, but really just like t-shirts, hoodies, tanks, stuff like that.

And it's such a relatable like thing, especially for like moms, you know, like you want something cute to be able to wear to carpool or like, and a lot, that's what a lot of our stuff is. Like that's how we have always branded it because I could wear it to work with like a blazer and then after work, take my blazer off and dress it down like a casual. And it's, the stuff is so comfortable and soft. I'm telling you, once you all have this stuff, you're going to realize that you're wearing TTM stuff all the time.

I always see it on the show. I think everybody on the cast has worn TTM. Really? Yeah. So I'm ready. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm going to have their tier rain and Maverick has one of their t-shirts on in his preschool

picture before he cut his hair, like with his old man bun. Oh my God. Why'd you cut it? I got pressured, peer pressure me and husband pressure. No, that's, I'm so terrified that Chris is going to cut luxe his hair when I'm not around because he has a man bun. It wasn't even really Taylor. It was honestly my parents and Taylor's parents, like they would not leave us alone about it.

Let him be a boy. Why does he have long hair? Yeah. Especially in the South girl, you know, my dad was like, that stuff is getting on his nerves. Look, he's having to push it out of his face. I'm like, okay, Jade has never had her hair cut. You never said a word about that.

Right, right. Just say it's a boy and you want his hair to be short. Yeah. You don't like his man bun. You don't get it. Yeah. Stop skirting around the issue. I will say one thing it really did like, it was like 50%, I was just kind of tired of

hearing about it from family members. And the other thing that played a big part in it was everywhere we went, it didn't matter. He was a girl. Everywhere. Yeah. Luxe gets it all the time. Everywhere. I was like, oh my god.

He could be wearing like blue, dark blue cargo shorts and he's still a girl. His shirt could say boy on it. Yep. And he's still a girl. Still a girl. Yeah. I could be like, his name is Maverick. People did that to you about Luxe's hair though, like on social media and stuff.

I tried to put, because Lincoln had hair too, so I tried to put it in a man bun, Lincoln wasn't having it. So once we cut it, it was gone and now Lincoln's got short hair, but Luxe, I do not want to cut it. Like he's about to be one next week. I don't want to cut it. But I'm afraid that his dad is going to just chop it off. What would you do?

I don't know because there's nothing I can do about it. I'd be digging a grave. Yeah. I mean, that would make me so mad. If we're going to cut it, it needs to be like a joint decision, we do it together. That's what I was going to say. Like if he wants to do it, he should at least be like, hey, I really want to do this. If you want to come, it's happening.

I wouldn't still cry. Oh yeah. I'll be honest, had MTV not been filming, I probably would have cried. She was just saying how she doesn't cry on camera. I cry all the time. Yeah. I don't cry on camera. I don't ever cry, like ever.

Oh, I just am a big fat cry baby. I don't know why. I've always been that way, always. Yeah. I don't think I can really remember a time when you were really crying. But honestly, out of the two of us, we've talked about this before. I would always think that if I looked at us, I would think I was the weakest one and you were like-

I'm the most sensitive- You're so sensitive. Human being. You're so sensitive. Really? Yeah. I mean, I know you're kind of sensitive, but I know you're like that sensitive. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. I'm just like, I think I cried in the movie Creed. What? Yeah. Like it's sad, you know? Is that real? Yeah. You really did.

And I think Transformers as well. You cried in Transformers? She told me before she cried in Transformers. I definitely cried in Transformers. Why? I don't, I just, I'm just- It's like an action movie. It's like an action movie.

Yeah, I don't know. Oh my gosh. Are you going to cry right now? No, I cried enough for everybody during our last podcast, so I think I'm good. Yeah. Kayla had literal tears, like crocodile tears, like rolling down her face. So we had, on our last podcast, we had Lindsay from 16 and Pregnant. She was on season four and she had twins, they're nine months old, and she just told

the story of the twins and like what she went through with that and I just lost it. Like she went through hell, yeah. Stuff like that gets me. Yeah. Like watching, if I go back and watch any like Teen Mom, 16 Pregnant, from like way back, early seasons, early episodes, oh my God, I'm like a titty baby, like I don't know what it is. I'm just like sobbing and I've seen it a thousand times.

And you went through it, right, for whatever reason. Now it doesn't matter who it is, whatever. If it was back in the day, I'm crying and mercy. I think that's why people love the show so much and it's continued on as long as it has, because people truly relate to us, like they grew up with us. When they get invested, you know, like get invested with your life. I'm pretty sure I've cried with a couple of the girls on the show for sure. I'm like, if they are crying on my TV screen, I was probably crying.

110%, yes. Like crying with them. Yes. And I know it's weird because I feel like some of us really relate on very similar stories, like you and Chelsea's right now, I think is very similar. Yeah. And then like Leah and Lindsay have a lot in common, but also Leah and I also have a lot in common just with different baby dyes and she's got three kids and, you know, we

have 50-50 with the older two and then the other, the littlest ones we have all the time. So it's just like, it's crazy how- Oh my god, y'all had that similarity? Yeah. How different, but how similar. That's similar, yeah. It is really weird. No, team.

And we all go through like the TV thing. Like- Yeah. It's like a unique thing. Yeah, very unique. I was saying to Lindsay too, like she wasn't on our show, but she can still relate because she's had a child in been on TV, so it's still kind of, I don't know, I feel like it's kind of similar.

I don't know, I was saying I couldn't relate to like being 16 and having a baby and also having it televised, you know? Yeah. Yeah. There's so many things that would go bad. I don't think any of us knew what the hell we were walking into. No. For sure not.

And I could go back and not film certain things. Lord. I was just trying to pay for college. Oh yeah, same. And we did it. Yeah, we did it. We did it. We did it.

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I was going to ask about that. Like how, what is it like to be a business owner so young and like how did you know what to do? Did you guys have, did you do your own research? Did people help you? Yeah. Like how does, how does that work? No, honestly, it was, well, we started it, he, he started TTM like the same time I started

my marketing company. And so. You have a marketing company? Mm-hmm. So like what is it? We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. I own a social media marketing company, so similar to how businesses would like outsource

an accountant or an attorney or a marketing company. That's what we did. We go in and do like social and digital media for, for companies. Yeah. Okay. Oh, that's awesome. I had no idea. Yeah.

Wow. Okay. Well, I just never talked about it on the show because I don't know. I feel like, I mean, you know, well, and probably you too, being on TV can help you or hurt you. Yeah. So I've always tried to like keep it off of TV one because I didn't want somebody to be like, oh, I'm not hiring her company because she's on Teen Mom, whatever.

And also because I don't know, part of me just kind of wants to be like, I did this without the show. Right. And it kind of is its own thing. Right. Like the show had nothing to do with it. It's not successful because of the show. Right.

It's as successful because you did it. Exactly. Right. Okay. Because I know how to do it. You know what I mean? Right. Because that's what I, what I went to school for.

So, you know, it's kind of prideful in that sense. I love that. That's awesome. I think that's awesome. I need to start a company. I want to go on Shark Tank. When we were talking about that earlier, when you walked in, it's like, I need to invent some type of fricking product.

You did. You are. What? My hair product. You know, the sharks, the sharks are not going to pick that up. They might. Probably not. I just can't imagine going into the tank.

I couldn't, first of all, I think you have to memorize like your whole plan and present it to them. I would literally shit my pants. Like you've been doing for the past 24 hours. I would, it would be terrifying. I think that's why you have someone go in with you and just like pretend like they are a partner or like they helped you start it. How could you imagine going into the tank though and being the loser that has to walk

out because you have no offers? But you still get the publicity. There was one. Did you see the cup of divino or whatever? It was like this one, you like peel back the lid and it's a little cup of wine. They all said no and he became like a multi-millionaire after the show aired. Yeah. There've been like a few, sometimes when I'm, because I'm obsessed with that show.

Me too. And sometimes I'm like, why are they not investing like, I have bought products. From people who didn't get deals because I'm like, I'm going to support them because if I was an investor, I'd probably wouldn't have done that. Yeah. I don't know. I don't get it. I bought a lunchbox off a Shark Tank once.

Did you? I bought like a kid's lunchbox. Ice age meals, I think it was. It was like, they're like pre-made meals, like kind of like meal prepping and I got those one time. I just, I got the dog cupcakes. Were they good? Did the dogs like them?

Like dog cookies or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I just, some of the products I'm like, why didn't I think of that or like, what the fuck is that? You know? Yeah. So it's like hit or miss, but. I always think I'm an adventure and then when I think of an idea, it's because I thought

of it because I probably saw it somewhere and somebody else already did it. Oh, that's definitely happened. Like I thought I had this great idea with this app. I was like, oh my God, we can do like an interior design app where you can like take pictures of the stuff and like move it around in the room to see what it would look like on the app. Sure as shit. Weeks later, there was already one out.

How long ago was that? Maybe, maybe a year or two ago. Okay. Cause I was going to say, if you go on like, what, like HGTV or like websites like paint brands or furniture brands, they have those. Oh, see, I'm talking about like we think we have the idea and then it's already something that's been going on for five years. Yeah.

Right. And we just, it's hard to find something new now. Cause everybody already thought of it cause everybody's smarter than us. I think about that. I'm like, I want my own TV shows too, like I want my own TV show and then I realized like I try to film my own stuff and I'm like, this is not enough to be remotely interesting to anybody. Like I, it sounds like a good idea and then you try it and you're like, oh fuck.

I think it's like, cause I've thought about doing the same thing and it is really hard to fill up time. Yeah. So I've like, maybe I should just put it like a camera on the wall. Yeah. Well, I was pissed cause I had like, you know, I went to school for communications and I'm like, oh, like I met all these interesting film people and they can help me film my own show.

And I'm like, first of all, they come to my house, they miss all the funny shit. Right. The, or they never air it. Right. And so I'm like, mm, okay. No, I feel like sometimes the things that you film, especially like stuff that I filmed before, it's like the funny stuff doesn't make TV. Which is weird.

And then you're like, but that was so funny. Like why was that not part of it? Yeah. You know? I think, yeah, my shit story, throwing up story should have been on there. Like this trail, right? What? Yeah.

I just heard snail trail and now I'm like literally shit going up the stairs, like took a diaper off and shit going up the steps while I was throwing up. So I said, well, what the fuck do I do now? You've been puking for weeks. I'm not pregnant. I'm not pregnant. I'm taking a test. I'm definitely not pregnant.

I promise. Um, yeah, no, I, I would laugh so hard. If we left here and went to CVS and kill, had a positive pregnancy test, literally a Walgreens. I'm not pregnant. There's no need for a test. I promise. I, no, no, the shop is closed right now.

Close. Close. For business. Yeah. Well, anytime that you're having sex, it can happen. I'm not having sex. I learned that off of teen mom. And I'm certain no one's going to touch me now after they've heard that I've had the

shits for a fucking two days. If someone doesn't touch you because of that, they're weird. Yeah. I mean, we're all human. Yeah, I guess. I asked Mark, if my friend Mark is staying in my room and I asked him, like, like, do I ask you to leave while I have to poop? Like, how does this go?

He was like, no, just, I don't know. And apparently there's not fans in the bathroom at the hotel we're staying at. There's not fans. So, so then he just got up and left. He slept through it all. He was like, whatever. And I had a second bed that somebody could have slept in and I offered it to Kale and I'm so glad she didn't, to be perfectly honest, because then I would have been kept up all

night because she would have been shitting her brains out all night. Oh my God. You're so mean. You're handling it. Like, no. I feel bad for you. That sucks. That shit sucks.

That shit sucks. Really? Yeah. Like, that's bad. It's fine. I'll be better by tomorrow morning. It'll be fine. Yeah.

So tell us more about what's going on with Bentley. Like. He plays baseball, right? Oh my God. He plays everything. Yeah. Yes. So, he plays baseball and he golfs and he just got seventh place in the regional drive

chip and putt. Oh, wow. That's so exciting. It's so cute. And does Taylor coach him? Or that's just for baseball? Taylor coaches baseball and basketball. Oh, okay.

Isaac just started basketball and I'm like. Did any of your baby dads coach? Hobby coach soccer. One time. One time. Just one. That's about it. What's his relationship like with Maverick and Jade?

I think he's so good. It's great. Yeah. He's a really, really good big brother. Honestly, when I was pregnant with Jade and we told him, he was like, super excited. I was excited the whole time, but I kept telling Taylor, like, I wonder if this is going to change when she. Comes.

Comes. Yeah. Like, when he realizes that he's not the only one anymore after being so used to it. And it didn't. And like, I think he was like, so bored. I think that's my situation. Finally, there's something else, like somebody else and maybe my mom will get off my ass. So, no, but he has, he's a really, really good big brother.

What's the age difference between him and Jade? Oh God. We'll see. Bentley's nine. So six years. Okay. Oh. Do we talk about that all the time?

Cause Lindsay's like on the fence on whether she wants to have more kids or not. And I'm like, fucking do it. Yeah. But it's like you get to a comfort level, you know, like your child's almost six years old and then you're going to start it all over. Like, it is so much easier the second time and then even easier the third time is, yeah, I'll be pregnant tomorrow, but I'm not telling you this and especially because I mean the first time I was 16, I was pregnant and I was 17 by the time I had him, I did not know

what I was doing, but it's, I mean, you know, as a mom, it's weird how your body just knows. Like it just knows what to do. So then the second time, I mean, I was kind of nervous, but not really. Yeah. But do you feel like your nerves got better with age or worse? Better. Much better. Much better.

Yes. Much, much, much better. Lux has third child syndrome. Like, for sure. I just, he just runs wild and I don't, I just let him because it's like at this point, I'm, I know what's happening. If he's quiet for too long, I'll go look for him, but yeah, please, I hope you're looking for him.

No, yeah. He's, he gets into everything. He's a nutcase, but we say Maverick is Donnie from the wild farm. Oh, I say that. Mine is Mugley from the jungle. Yeah. They're, they don't care. They're loners.

This makes me want another baby so bad. Do it. Do it. Here we are. Like, yeah, do it. And I'm probably ovulating. So awesome guys. That's great.

Hey, Will. Where's Will? He's definitely every week. Oh good. Cause he's got to know if you're talking shit. Yeah. He knows. Literally my husband knows every week if I've said something about him.

Maybe Taylor's listening. Yeah. Hi, Taylor. Taylor, we know that you're in love with Rihanna. We want to see a video of you meeting her in Barbados. I think I'm a cry. Yeah. It's like that.

I'm obsessed. He's like, he's not obsessed. I think he always says, well, I think it's like, that's his like crush, you know? But he's like, but she kind of scares me. Right. Like she's intimidating. Yeah. He's like, I don't know.

Like, I feel like I like the idea of her. Right. But the reality is, yeah, he's like, I'm pretty sure I'd be scared shit. Like I would be scared. I think a lot of men think that about all of us. Oh yeah. That's probably true. We're scary.

And then they get to know me and they're like, kill. Stop crying. Yeah. They just say I'm an asshole. And I have no heart. Yeah. That's me. Heart, you know.

Oh my gosh. That's so funny. So tell us what your vacation like, you go on a vacation with your husband. What does it look like? Do y'all go on adventures? Do you lay by the pool? Adventures. Yeah.

We don't really lay by the pool. Ginger's don't do that. Is he a ginger too? He's not a ginger, but no, I mean, he tans. Oh, okay. He's fair skinned, but he can actually tan. I don't. Um, so no, don't lay by the pool.

We, we always do like the games and like contests and competitions and stuff that they resort to. Yeah. We like to play volleyball, but yeah, we do like the excursions and y'all should go on a vacation together. Yeah. And I'll go and I'll just stay at the pool. I'm like, I want to go and do all the things.

Yes. And I'm not, I'm like, take me everywhere. Show me everything. I want to go. Yeah. Scuba diving, ziplining, whatever it is. Take me. Yeah.

I'll go and get a salad. No, there's no, first of all, salads are not meals. So stop doing that. You're not living your best life. She's not. She has no idea. I had a burger yesterday and grits. I think we should take a trip.

She doesn't even know what grits is. You don't know what grits. Oh girl. I had bacon. I had baked like once with bacon in them yesterday and they were literally so good. Like what is that? Do you know what cream of wheat is? You know, like, it's almost, I don't know.

Like saw those. Yeah, it's not, I don't want to say oatmeal because it's not like, it's not oats, but like the cereal, the wheats, like that. No, no, it's like, what is that cereal called? It's like sweet and no, not at all. No, it's not remotely. How do you describe grits? Grits is not.

No, it doesn't always have bacon in it. These were just cheese grits with bacon on it. It put salt and pepper and butter and sugar in my grits. So grits is not spam. Spam. No, it's not. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

No, I've been dead to your ears. First of all, I know nothing about cooking. I know nothing about food. I thought that you need. You don't know how to cook. Fuck no, baby. I literally can make Alfredo. That's about it.

Alfredo. With bacon. Anything with bacon. Right. Anything with bacon. Exactly. Today, soul food. Well, you have the shit.

So I don't know how much we can eat. But Lindsay, stop reminding these people. I need to take you to Aretha Frankenstein's. Okay, maybe tomorrow so that I'm not shitting. Breakfast, breakfast. Oh, God, I'm coming too. It's so good. Someone actually told me about beas, bayas, beas.

Oh, bees. Bees. But the roundtables. I don't know. Someone told me to go there. Yes, you need to go there for sure. Wait, what's today? You should not do breakfast.

Today's Thursday. I know they're closed on Mondays. I'm eating tomorrow. I only know that because that big, big thing. Let's go. Where are you guys? Are you busy tomorrow? She's probably filming.

She's leaving on Saturday. No, I can come do stuff because we have to be out of our house all day. Our house isn't even on the market yet and we have three showings tomorrow. Oh, wow. So you have to be out of the house all day? Yeah, pretty much. That's so exciting though. We'll eat our way through Chattanooga.

Yes. Let's go through like. Oh my God, we can make a special for Food Network. Yeah. Like we'll go on a eating tour. I want to go on worse cooks. And Kale would win it. I would win.

I thought you would win. I would. You should. Are you listening Food Network? Are you? Are you? Is there an executive from Food Network listening? Somebody is listening.

Someone's got to tell them. I mean, if Rihanna and Adele watch. Teen Mom, someone's listening. Someone from Food Network. Is what listening is. I'm amazed that Rihanna watches Teen Mom. Like. So does Adele.

I'm amazed. Not that Taylor Swift does too. Miley Cyrus did. Really? Yep. She tweeted about it. Jamie Lynn Spears. Nicki Minaj.

Nicki Minaj. Fought with Farah. Justin Bieber. Like I was like, damn. I wish I would have fought with her about something. Do I have to be an asshole to get. No. Farah fought with Nicki Minaj.

And I was like. She also fought with the Kardashian's too. Oh, that's right. She did. Like we have to act like assholes to like talk to these people. No. I'm not ever acting like an asshole just for somebody to talk to me. No.

Macy. An asshole for somebody to not talk to me. Exactly. This is true. Exactly. Just an asshole in general every day. Yeah. I'm like.

But Kale's not an ass. She's not. No. I'm really. I try to be nice to everyone. I just come off as super cold on the show. I feel like. We were talking about this.

Like how filming for reality TV, especially when you have little kids. It's so draining. It's so draining. And annoying. And yeah. Annoying. Because it's like you've been a mom all day and now you're, you know, filming TV. And you're like, okay, I kind of don't want to be here.

But then when it airs, you're like, oh, actually that was a really cute segment. Or that was really good. I don't think I've ever said that about myself. Yeah. It's tough. I don't know. Sometimes I. Sometimes I just want them to like.

Follow. Right. And don't intervene. Don't have a sit down. Let's not stop. Let's not just literally follow us around. Like what? What really happens?

I think so. That would be great. Yeah. What really happened? Like the shit show. Like what really happens, but you want them to catch like more stuff in the moment. Like instead of talking about it after the fact, like catching all of the stuff on camera. So basically have a camera 24 seven.

Yeah. Even more like they did back in the day. Like back in the day, they really, in the very beginning, they didn't intervene much. They kind of just let things go. Yeah. But we were also kind of naive and just gave it to them. We knew also, so they probably didn't really know which direction to go with it either. But now you're smarter and wiser and there are certain things that you're like.

And we know what not to say. Yeah. I'm still learning that, that part of it. No. Kale say some stuff sometimes. And I'm like, oh fuck. Yeah. I shouldn't have said that.

It's fine. Like this shit story is going to be. I'll never live this down. People are going to think that happened. It's going to trend on Twitter. Kale's, Kale's shits. Yeah. Well, Macy, thank you so much for coming on and talking to us.

Thanks for having me. So much fun. We appreciate it. And we'll have to follow up with you on the Rihanna and Taylor situation when you get back. We're going to go on Excursion. That's who he's going to be hunting for. Where are you going?

I don't know. You're going to look for Rihanna. Right. Exactly. All right, guys. That's it for this week with Coffee Combos. Thank you guys for listening. Make sure that you subscribe.

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