Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 41: Teen Mom Casting, Radio Lunchbox, & Opposites Attract

Episode Date: August 16, 2018

Kail & Lindsie discuss how they're opposites, but work so well together. They chat w/ Radio Lunchbox from The Bobby Bones Show & why Lindsie thought Bobby Bones was tweeting her. Lunchbox tells why he's a Teen Mom fan & why he wanted to be on the Real World. They discuss why certain girls were picked to be Teen Moms. Lunchbox talks about the girls on the show that he does & doesn't like. They talk about Instagram, what they're doing to  get on Bobby's good side, & why controlling relationships don't work. Lindsie & Lunchbox settle the dispute of who's the best napper & Lunchbox gives the details on Babybox.

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos! I almost said Kale on the cast, but no, welcome to Coffee Combos. What's up, Lindsay? I'm just chilling on the bed with you. This is like the first comfortable, super, like, loungy podcast we've done. Yes, we are in the bed and have on sweats. Yeah. So, we've been chilling, not really chilling all day. No, we've been doing work all day.

We've been doing work all day. I lied about that. Yeah, but now we're chilling. We were about to interview Radio Lunchbox from the Bobby Bones show. Yes. And before we do that, we are just going to talk about our life. We're going to talk about how opposite we are, because I've been obsessed with these, like, Twitter polls and Instagram polls.

And every choice that I pick, Lindsay picks the opposite. And so, we're just not compatible. Compatible. But the weird thing is, is our Zodiac signs are the most compatible signs in the Zodiac. Correct. So. So, that's probably why we work well together, but we would kill each other. Like, if you were with a Virgo, you would probably kill it.

Kill it? Yeah, or whoever the person is. Yeah, for sure, because no. And if I was with a Pisces. You wouldn't handle it, or you'd control their life, because honestly, we just fly by the seat of our pants, and we are not planners, and last minute, and you're not about that. No. No.

Like, literally, we had to record in my room, because Kale's room is the chaos. Yeah. 100%, there's shit everywhere. I don't know how it gets that dirty. Like, how did your sheets get like that? Well, one, I don't like when the room service, the housekeeping comes and cleans my room, because they tuck the end of the bed sheets into the bed, and that drives me nuts. Why?

Because you can't get any air down there? Air! I just like the blankets to tuck into my feet. Do you know what I'm saying? Oh, got it. Got it. And it's like, I'm wrestling the bed sheets to come out from under the bed when I'm in bed, because I always forget to untuck it before I get in the bed.

No, like, I literally did not look like I slept in this bed whenever I woke up. It was like one little straight line where my body had been for the whole night. Do you not toss and turn all night, or you like lay in one position? I mean, I probably move from like side to side, but it's literally like a little area, like a really small area. See no. I literally will be upside, wake up upside down. Upside down?

Yeah, it does. Like your head at the foot? Yeah, I sleep crazy. That's not normal. Probably not. I'm gonna get a sleep study done. But that's really not normal, especially when you're grown. Like if you're like five, that makes sense, but you're 26, and what kind of man is gonna

be trying to sleep with you? I feel like I need a man to keep me in my place. In all aspects, like, all aspects, not just sleeping. Maybe they'll keep me grounded. Right. Right there. Right there. Have you ever had a man to keep you grounded?

Is the question? No. I mean, they've tried. Attempt failed. Right. Three times. Same with women. I think it just made me...

Same with women. None of them can control you either. No. Kale is an uncontrollable force. I'm unruly. Well, let's call... Let's call a lunchbox. Let's do it.

Okay, I'm ready to talk to him. Do it, do it. Hello. Hi, lunchbox. How's it going? How are you? I am absolutely wonderful. If you can't tell, this is Kale.

And this is Lindsey. I know who this is. Oh, okay. Are you here, Lindsey? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Can we talk about how you had been tweeting me and I literally thought you were Bobby Bones?

That's really funny. That's really funny. Well, sorry to disappoint you. It's not a disappointment. It's not. And I think your tweets are so funny. Well, thank you. I do my best to keep them funny and not be too serious.

Well, yeah. The ones about your baby were hilarious and your wife probably wanted to kill you. What did he say about his baby? About your father or about your dad or your father-in-law? Oh, with the breast milk? With the breast milk? No, no, no. That's definitely my dad.

He is very... I don't think he really gets it. He's very like, oh, he doesn't even think about what he's saying and he just, you know... I mean, she's not going to kill me because she was on speakerphone when he asked it and she just looked at me and she was like, is he really asking me about my breast milk? So for those of you who don't know who Radio Lunchbox is, he has a very successful radio show in Nashville and actually I think the last time that I talked to you in person was probably in...

Did I talk to you with Amber in 2014? Yeah, that was back when you guys were in town and they surprised me by bringing you guys in the studio. That's right. Yeah, they had me blindfolded and they were like, we got special guests for you and I kind of freaked out and people think it's weird that a grown man freaked out or whatever and we're not talking about why. I'm just a fan.

I can't help it. Well, no, I was going to ask you, why are you a fan of Teen Mom? How did you start watching this and what made you love it? Also, I need to know who you like and who you don't like. Okay, well, I started because I love MTV. I'm an MTV addict and as a kid growing up, I thought, okay, when I grow up, I'm going to be on the real world and then my career will take off and I'll become famous because I'm on the real world and then I'll go on the challenge and all that.

I got too old and I was no longer eligible for the real world and they would show commercials for 16 and pregnant and I was like, okay, let me check this show out, you know? Because I like drama. I like drama and I like reality TV and so I start watching and I'm like, this is just unbelievable. I can't believe all the drama and the craziness and at first I liked it because oh, it's a train wreck and look at all the troubles and then I'm like, I start relating, you start cheering for certain people and you're like, man, sometimes pregnancy is happening and

you're like, I really like her. Oh, God, that was crazy. She's an idiot. She's never going to be a good mom and you want to see people get invested and then when they came out with Teen Mom, I was like, thank you because there will be 16 and pregnant and you have no idea what happened to them. Right. We actually just, we had one of the girls from 16 and pregnant on our podcast.

We recorded with her yesterday. I don't know if you remember her. So her name was Lindsay also and she was, she wanted to be a cage fighter. Okay. She was actually one of the success stories of 16 and pregnant and they, I wish that they probably would have filmed with her for Teen Mom. I wish they would have because she has a really awesome success story and she just had twins and stuff.

That's why they don't film with her. Oh, because she's successful. Yeah. So yeah. My question is, my question is like, how did they pick you guys? Do you know like why they picked you guys from the original 16 and pregnant to be Teen Mom? Is it because you have the most family action or they just liked your story the best?

I've never knew why they picked certain girls and not other girls. I do. I think it had something to do with the storyline and how for, I think for me, I happened to be the season finale and so I got a good rating probably and my story, like they could see more with my story. I'm not really sure entirely. I never really asked. I guess that's a question I want to, I would be curious to know.

Yeah. Why did they pick you? Probably, I would say ratings and they probably liked the story because I mean, I don't know why they picked Janelle because she's the biggest idiot on the planet and she wouldn't pick me. Wow. Well, I mean, I watch her and I'm just like, I don't know how, but her mom to me is crazy also.

Their relationship is so toxic. Right. And they both, and everybody's like, oh, Janelle, so mean to her mom, but her mom is not nice to Janelle either. Their relationship is, all they do is yell at each other and maybe it's different, like when you see them at the reunions or a friend. It's not different. Oh my goodness.

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It's going to be good. I need to know. I need to know right now. So basically it shows... Oh, wait. Is that the one where Janelle's driving on the road and some guy cuts her off? Yes. Yes.

Oh, God. So she follows... She puts a gun at him? So he gets off an exit and is done with whatever the road rage they're having, and she follows him to his home and proceeds to accidentally run over his mailbox and then pull out a gun on him. He starts blocking her in and tells her... After she runs over the mailbox?

After she runs over the mailbox, because I guess she had accidentally messed up his property. So I'm sure he was probably going to call the police. And then he blocked her in with his truck. And then... He hit her truck after she runs over the mailbox? Yeah. She starts trying to get out of the situation and he hits her car and then she pulls the

gun on him. And Jace is in the front seat. Yes. Okay. And I saw this, like Jace in the front seat, and so my question is, for me as a human, I am watching and I just think, is there any hope for Jace? Is Jace going to be normal at any point in his life? Does he have a chance to succeed or is he just going to go down the same path as Janelle

because he has no positive influence in his life at all? Yeah. I mean, I think that's the question that a lot of people have is like, now what? What can you do at this point? For him? Nothing. Yeah. I assume you guys have met Jace.

Oh, yeah. Is he just a normal little kid or is he crazy and you can just see that, oh no, he's headed for trouble or is he, I don't know, because I don't know anybody like that. I mean, I think everyone's rooting for Jace. Everyone advocates for Jace and for Kaiser and even for Ensley, and we don't really talk about Ensley too much because that's, I feel like she's sort of... And it's like people's kids, you know, like now you have a child now too. So it's like you don't really, as a mom, you don't cross over.

If you talk about each other, that's one thing, like talking about people's kids. That's the thing is like, I know there's a save Kaiser hashtag, but I don't know what people say about Jace. Like I don't know. I think everyone's rooting for him and hoping for the best, honestly. Yeah. So if you were asking me, which ones do I like and which ones do I not like? I want the T. What girls do you like from our show?

What girls do you not like? What dads do you like? I love Chelsea. I think she is wonderful, I think you are awesome, and I think Macy is awesome. Yeah. Those are my three that I'm just like, okay, you guys are legit, like you seem like normal humans. And I'm going to tell you who is the most, the guy that I love the most is Gary.

Gary to me is just a good dad, like when he comes across on TV, I don't know where he's like, but he seems like he just gets it. He loves Nina, and he just seems to be so supportive, and it seems he's got it together. Yeah. I mean, every time that I've met him, he's always been super good, excuse me, he's always been good about everything. And he tries to see, you know, Amber side too. Like I love Amber.

Amber is one of my good friends, but he does try to see like all sides of situations before like, you know, putting shit out there. Yes. And one person that has grown is Amber. I mean, I feel like she's a little unlike, like, I don't know, but for the most part, she has come a long way. I thought when she decided to go to jail over rehab because, and she said it saved her life, which is great.

I thought coming back, I was like, okay, please, please, Amber, get it together. Like I'm hoping, but honestly, I didn't think she would be able to. I didn't think she would survive. I thought she would be able to be watching in five years and she'd be back in jail and she'd be back in transit. But I have to say that she has pleasantly surprised me. Yeah, no, she's super funny. We did the tour together whenever we came and met you.

And then I've hung out with her a couple other times too. And she's, she's so funny in person. Like I, I know that there's like the mom side and then the TV side and then like the side of you and without the cameras and without, you know, the kids around. And she's just so funny that I like, I really don't have anything negative to say about her because I didn't know about her prior, like I didn't know her personally prior to her going to prison or anything like that. I only met her after.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, guys, how are you forgetting about Farrah? Like, oh my God. I don't know what they're doing about Farrah.

Honestly, I don't live with bigger, well, Jenelle's a bigger train wreck than Farrah. I don't know. I think they're equal but different. Okay. The train wreck in different ways. Right. Yeah. But what Farrah is doing is not illegal in doing, you know, I mean, she doesn't miss

jail or probation because of Kesha, you know, things like that. I mean, really, I don't understand. Oh my God. Every time I think about Kesha, I think of Jenelle. Right. Like I'm going to the Kesha concert. I can't miss this concert. This is why I got all the feathers in my hair.

The feathers in my God. I mean, I put feathers in. I just love Kesha. Kesha. I mean, what in the, I mean, oh my gosh, I don't, Farrah is crazy. I felt so bad for her because the father of her child dies in a car wreck. Oh my gosh, traumatic. And now I'm just like, this girl's an idiot.

Yeah. I don't, I forget about her like I, and I feel like being fired was probably suited for her because I truly forget about her as crazy as she is. I think a lot of people don't talk about, I mean, people talk about her, but I forget about her being like, like, I know, like the name Farrah because she was on team mama. I forget. I don't associate her with our show anymore. Right.

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combos and then didn't he email somebody for you? Yeah, he did email me or message me and asked to be on it but I don't even know what I would ask him or what I would say to him truthfully. And I don't even know what he would say to us. Right. He'd be like, well, my daughter's the best and she does what she can and I would be like, okay, great. That conversation is over.

This isn't an interview, Michael. If you're going to have anybody on, you're going to have them off because life is boring and he doesn't have anything to say and if you want an interview, Deborah and me, you're going to interview her because she's weird, she's going to be weird also, I think. The one thing I've always wondered about that situation is why does she call her dad, Michael? Oh yeah. For the longest time, I thought it was her stepdad. Me too.

I did too. It's her older sister's stepdad, but it's her dad. So who calls their dad? I think a lot of people do that, to be honest. Well, I mean, I used to in high school just to be a loser. Thanks, Todd. Thanks, Todd. But maybe I would call, if I ever talked to my mom, I probably wouldn't call her mom

at this point. What would you call her? I'd call her Susie. Susie. Hey, Sus. What's up, Sus? I was thinking, but is that because you say that because your relationship wasn't as close as a mother, daughter, because Michael's been in a relationship with her dad.

Right, right, right. I see what you're saying. And so I would always think you would, because I still call my parents mom and dad. I don't call them Steve and Ann, I call them mom and dad. I only called Todd, Todd, because I thought it was funny. Right, right, right. You know, whenever. Yeah, and I would only call my mom by her name if, because we're estranged right now.

Yeah. But like, Michael raised her, right? Yeah. And he goes to bat for his daughter. Yeah, he goes. On the reg. Constantly. Defends her in porn and everything.

So you would think that she would have some type of respect to call him dad. But you know what, I'm thinking that I'm thinking that someone like her has a mental disorder. Like she's obviously mentally ill. And so it's like, you can't, like how much responsibility can she really take if she's like, you know, we like that is normal. You can't tell me that someone like that is, I mean, 100% agree with you. I think there are different issues that she does not address and she never will because

she can't. She never will because she can't. Right. And she, she buries them and by burying them, she goes and does the lips and everything and everything under the stone and it doesn't look like third anymore, but that's what she thinks makes her happy, but really inside, she's empty. But I mean, we can't talk crap because I do lips too. So I get Botox on my armpits and like in my forehead, but I don't do it for those types

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So like you don't want to completely put it in your armpits so that you stop sweating because then it'll come out of other places. So I just get enough so that it's minimal sweat and minimal smell. I don't even hardly sweat. First of all, well, I sweat like a pig. And secondly, I get it in my forehead so I don't have any expression. Can you lift your eyebrows for me real quick? I mean, it looks good.

Wait. Okay. So lunchbox. What other shows are you a super fan of? I need answers. Do you watch The Bachelorette or The Bachelorette? Tell us everything. I watch The Bachelorette, Bachelorette, Bachelorette, Paradise.

The challenge. The challenge. I mean, my whole challenge, man. How do you feel about Corey and Cheyenne coming on Teen Mom OG? I guess it's okay. I wish, I mean, the reason they're doing that is because of Corey, because he's all, he is one of the faces of MTV now, he's the next generation. I feel like they kind of, you know, he's on every challenge, he's on XLDB, he's on

this, he's on that. Right. And so they lead that and Cheyenne's on the challenge. So I guess that's good because it's been so long since 16 and pregnant. I guess they can't really go back and get a girl that was on 16 and pregnant because no one's going to remember her and they think that it's going to be interesting to have Corey because he's on every other show, but so, I mean, I'm through it just because I like Corey.

I don't, I, what he, he seems to be a stand up guy, even though he, he's a player, like I mean, dude's got gays, like mad gay, mad respect because girls fall in love with him and he, he seems to be like a good dad, Cheyenne says, you know, he's a great dad, he's their first daughter, all that, so I'm like, I'm through it. We had, we had Jimmy from the challenge on a few weeks ago and she said that they really front on IG. So. Yeah.

That's what she believes. So I don't know. Really? Yeah. That's what she, that's what she believes. So, I mean, I think she would know better than us because she's on the challenge with them. Yeah.

Wow. So you think they would choose an all up front to get, to make it look like they're all happy for people. But anyone, anyone can do that. I mean, my life, my day to day life is not easy or perfect and I, you know, on Instagram, it looks great. It's like your highlight reel. Yeah.

Of course. Oh yeah. Instagram is the best of, it's the best of me. Like look at me on a waterfall in Hawaii. I'm not going to toss me sitting on the couch, you know, my kid would throw up on me, you know what I mean? Right. That's not exciting.

I don't care. I have the perfect life. Oh, look at me. I have, you know, just, I'm doing the coolest stuff. I'm the best. Do you, how do you feel? What do you think, what do you think about Cheyenne coming on the, on OG? You know what?

I don't really have an opinion on it. I thought, I mean, me and Corey were always cool. I guess we're not cool anymore. I don't know why. I'm not really sure, but he's not down with me right now. So I don't really care. I don't have an opinion. Same thing for Bristol.

I just don't have a true, like a real opinion. I, I think for teen mom too, like all of us were a little salty when they brought Brianna on because it was just kind of like, why are we, it's, it's crazy because MTV doesn't, they don't call us and tell us when they're doing anything. And I just feel like after doing the show for 10 years, you would think that they would have some type of respect to call us and be like, Hey, you have this special that's airing tomorrow at nine or Hey, we're adding a new member to the cast. Like, you know what I mean?

Cause that was, they, they had already, I think it had already been like a sign done deal for like weeks and weeks and weeks before we ever knew. And I think the same thing for OG, like nobody knew until it was announced online and it was like, you don't have any respect for the cast that has been doing this for 10 years to call us and just give us a heads up. So you've thought about the milestones you want to hit in life and sometimes they feel so far away. Like I go back and forth between buying a new house or not buying a new house.

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TV politics got it. But at the same time, I feel like the girls that were originally like the teen mom, OG, teen mom, two girls, they came from 16 and pregnant, they were on the struggle bus when they got on, you know, Corey has TV paychecks at this point. So it's a bit different of a situation. Oh, I'm telling you what you're saying, yeah, because he's not hurting the money because he's not, he already has the income coming in. Correct.

And you go back and get, because it's been 10 years and you go get these girls and they do that, huh? Who is that again? I don't know. Cause like they tried, they tried the teen mom three or whatever. I don't even know if they call it a teen mom three or whatever, but it didn't work. And I didn't know why it didn't work. And so maybe they learned, they were like, okay, we can't do that route anymore.

So let's go get someone with a known commodity to our brand and do it. And there's a payment coming out now to me. I don't like that. I'm like, I got no affiliation with her. She is nobody, but I guess she brings a different audience and TV knows what they're doing, but I'm like, get her out of here and Brianna, you can kick rocks too. Yes. Thank you.

Thank you. Hey, lunchbox, are you guys going to invite coffee combos on Bobby Bones? That's the question. I was Lindsay and Kale invited to, but the Bobby Bones radio show. If I had any control on how you want it every day, Bobby is in control of that and he doesn't let me have any control. I just followed both of y'all on Instagram. So maybe he'll see my follow and be like, Hey, you want to come on the show?

Yeah. Shouldn't Bobby like want us to? Yeah. Because you guys are so cool and popular and he doesn't really understand that. He doesn't get how awesome you guys are and how awesome he long or G and, you know, does he watch? He doesn't watch it. He doesn't watch anything good.

He doesn't watch anything good. Show him. Show him. Chris Lee knows best and then maybe he'll want us after that. He doesn't watch. He doesn't watch the bathroom. The bathroom. Anything.

What does Bobby watch? Yeah. What do we need to do to get on his good side? He watches. He watches Netflix. I mean, he watches shows like Daredevil and something called Staircase. I don't know if that is, uh, some of the Netflix Bobby Bobby is a Netflix and chill. Yeah.

He's Netflix and chill for sure. But he shows by himself is the problem. Yeah. Same. He does not have a. Oh, but Bobby and I are one in the same then. Yeah. It's just crazy.

I don't know. I try to convince him because I talk about the show all the time. I'm always like, Oh my gosh. And they're like, Hey, here's me. What is that? Dude. Why do you watch Teen Moves? I'm like, we're gonna have Teen Moves anymore.

I'm following their life now as they, you know, they're in the dead end and like, what's going on? And you got to know. Hey, Phil, can I ask you? Because I have always wanted to make, maybe you guys address this a show that I don't know. Joe's parent. Yeah.

I don't know how it really are now, or if they don't want to be on the show or if it's just like, you know, it's too far removed or you have a good relationship with them now. But in the beginning, to me, I thought that was the best relationship coming from a, like you weren't their kid, but you were the one that was pregnant with the, I guess the baby's father. That was the best relationship out of any of them that I saw on 16 and pregnant. And then it sort of deteriorated.

I really never heard anything else about it. Yeah. So Joe and I, his dad and I always had a really good relationship. Like he was always very honest with me and I could be honest back with him and I never felt judged or anything. That was always solid. When Joe and I split and I moved, he moved to Jersey. And then so his dad and his parents actually got divorced shortly after Joe and I split.

So they split and then I think one of them stayed in Pennsylvania, one of them moved to Jersey and then Jenna and I, I think was a little more phony. I don't think that that was, I don't know what that relationship was, but it never felt, it never felt real to me. And I think that, you know, once Joe and I split, I didn't really have contact with them anymore. I lived in Pennsylvania. They lived in Jersey.

They were split. I didn't have any reason to have a relationship with them, but I mean, now if I were to see them at like a birthday party or something, like we're all civil, we all get along and it's fine. Okay. I always wondered about that because I felt like the parents were supportive, you know, I mean, they were there for you, but now that I know that she was fake, okay, good. That's how I feel.

That's how I, that's what the vibe, I don't think that she likes me. I don't think she ever really liked me and I think a lot of it was a front for the camera, but I don't know that for sure. I just, that's how I feel. Okay. And then also, cause you and I used to go kind of back and forth a little bit on Twitter when you and Bobby were still together. Yeah.

Are you guys back to being civil or is it, I mean, I think you say he's a good dad. You say, but I don't know because he went and we're in the veranda and you know, she can kick rocks once you get in TV, you're listening, like, like a lifer, like. Um, Bobby and I have a really weird relationship. I think, um, there's no, he's a Disney dad. So the kids love to go be at his house. They love, there's no structure. There's no rules.

There's no boundaries. There's, it's a free for all. So naturally the kids love to be around him. Um, he says, he says that him and his girlfriend, when they get their own house, things are going to be different because, you know, he lives with his parents now. And so a lot of that, a lot of that comes from, you know, the parents, the grandparents, you know, spoil the kids, right? So he's at work.

He's at work. And so when he has Lincoln over there, his grand, his parents are actually raising Lincoln when he's at work and you know, all of that. So he says that when they move into the house, they're going to, there's going to be structure. There's going to be rules. And so I, I do think that Javi means well, and I think that he's a good dad, but relationship wise, I think he's horrible. Um, but yeah, we're civil.

It's weird because, um, I don't know, I feel like, oh, we, it's a lot of, oh, well, you did this to me. So I'm going to do this to you. I think it's a lot of that. With us. Because when you guys were together, he would drive me nuts because I felt like he was just so jealous and so trying to be controlling. And it's just like, to me, I, and I would get so frustrated and I tweeted and he tweeted

and he did that at me on Twitter and I, oh, you know, you want to say stuff, blah, blah, blah. And I, you know, I get it, but I like Twitter words, it's fun if you want to tweet back and forth. That's great. Right. I'm just, I'm just like, man, if you're with someone, why are you going to be that jealous and that controlled?

Like, Carol is so nice to you and you are just so mean and I was just, it would just, it would make me so mad. My wife would watch and she'd be like, oh my gosh, why is he so mean to her? I just, I was so nervous that it was never coming across that way. I feel like Lindsay and I talk about it all the time. Like I come off very cold and mean to him, but what was off camera, I felt like more than what was on the show was the insecurity and the jealousy and the control that he had over me.

It was like, it was so bad lunchbox. Like, and I don't feel like it ever came across on TV. And then they would be like, why is Kale so mean to him? And I'm like, you guys don't understand what I'm dealing with with him off camera. And then to do it on camera is like, now I'm cold and I'm a bitch because you guys don't understand what just happened off camera. You know what I mean? One of my favorite scenes was when you guys were driving at like little Mercedes and like

you wrecked it on the freeway. Y'all are like in an argument and you wrecked it on the freeway. I loved that shit. Because we argue because I hate the cold. I don't like being in the cold. I don't want to go ice skating. I don't want to go snowboarding. I do not like the cold.

And he thought it was a good idea knowing that I don't like anything in the cold to take me ice skating on camera. No, you're not going to film me bust my ass in the ice cold when you know I don't fucking like it. Huh? But then. You were trying to make it look bad. You were trying to make it look bad.

But then. But then. And I can't believe you don't need on camera it came across as him to show me. No, I don't think it did. Oh, whenever you wanted to do stuff with your girlfriends, he had 500 questions about what he means. Who's going to be there? Who's going to be there?

What time? What time are you going to be old? Why can't I come? Like. Let me just tell you have some friends. Let me tell you a story. Okay. Really quick.

Um, so I would, I've always been the type that's like, I want to encourage my, my significant other to go out and do stuff and work together just because just because I can't go or I'm with the kids this weekend, I'm still going to encourage them to go because I never want to be the wife. That's like. No, you can't go. You can't go because I can't. Right.

Like I'm not that type of person. But. You're still going to have friends. Right. So I, but when it's, when it is, when I get a chance to go out, you know, I kind of expect the same thing in return. So there was one time where my, our best friends flew in from New Mexico and, um, should they have a daughter together, brought the daughter and the girl, me and her, um, stayed home

with the kids and they said that they were going to go out and go to the strip club. And I was like, all right, cool. That's fine. Just please don't touch anyone. Like you don't need to get a lap dance. Like anything else is fair game, have fun, drink, whatever. So all of a sudden I'm getting tweets about Javi in the strip club getting a lap dance in the back room and I'm at home with the kids.

So that stuff never made teen mom. That stuff never hit like, but I'm getting tweets from the strippers saying, Oh, your man is here getting a lap dance in the back room and ha ha ha. You're at home with the kids. Like, and then that never comes across. But then somebody texts me. Good morning. Do you have class?

And I've never touched or slept with this kid a day in my life and now I'm a hoe and I'm cheating and I'm a liar and I'm this and I'm that. And so I don't feel like my story in that aspect ever came across on TV the way it actually played out in real life. Well, I feel like always like a manipulator is going to manipulate a situation. Like he said, whatever way that I was sleeping. All these dudes were in the house, whatever, when he was deployed, lunchbox. When I tell you this man already had a house when he came home, he played it like he didn't

know that he wasn't going to live with me when he came home. He had a whole house that he was moving into three days after he came home and then made a big scene. Like he had no fucking clue. Oh, he played the big thing very well on TV and then I also think you say about insecurity like he was very insecure. And I think that also man, he nowadays TV, he thinks he was Mr. Ravado. Like he thinks he is the bomb.com and then that's a 1995 reference.

But now how do you come across this, Mr. R. Ravado, you're cool looking really up high, really like to me and I'm just like, dude, like, come on, you are just like you're a me with Carol. You know, you kind of fade it out like in TV. Like they weren't really concentrating on you as much. So let me go get Briana, who, you know, we don't really care about, but you got a nice big line. Congratulations.

And I think he thought he was going to. We first made it to being on the challenge and I really think that's what he thought he was going to do. He still thinks that. He's got the confidence. He still thinks that. Yeah. He definitely wants to be on the challenge.

I see it. I see it in the end and I'm like, dude, we're not really on the challenge. I don't mean to do the challenge, but I watch it. I'm like, you're not even on the challenge. We don't want you. Do we? I want to go on the challenge. I know Kayla and I were talking about going on the challenge together.

How do you think you would do it on the challenge though? I think I would actually not do well at all, but I think I would do well on Fear Factor. Okay. See, I would be terrible at Fear Factor because they have to eat things and I can't eat anything that is gross. I can't eat anything. The smell, the red dressing, the smell that makes me almost vomit. So I can't.

I'm not doing the eating. Hey. I think I can do good at the manipulating with the physical stuff. Right. Right. Same. So much same. Hey.

Lunchbox. Can we talk quickly about your napping? What's up with your napping? I mean, I can nap in no time. I mean, I'm great at it. But you think you outnap me and that's the like misconception here because. Lindsay naps all the time and I'll get a text from her like six hours later. Like, oh, I just took the best nap and I'm like, crap.

It's like, I can't even, it takes me 45 minutes to fall asleep. I was napping for literally five hours. That's not a nap. That's a whole like sleep cycle. It's glorious. I've literally, I swear. Lunchbox. I have taken a nap every single day of my life for the past five and a half years.

Not. That is impressive. I can say I do not have a clean record of five and a half years. There are days I miss. I get busy, whatever. But I can fall asleep in the drop of a hat and I can fall asleep anywhere. I can wait. Like when I was in high school, I was on the track team.

I would go on the concrete underneath the stands of the track. And he just put a sweatshirt underneath my head and like straight down on the concrete, fall asleep. No problem. And then do you wake up easily? Oh yeah. I can wake up whenever I want or whatever. Hey, you guys need to go do something.

All right. So it's just like a power nap and you're good to go. Yeah. Well, I mean, it can be an hour, two hours, three hours or 30 minutes. Like if I'm in the waiting room for the doctor, I call my name, I just bring my head back and I'm out. I cannot help it. I get on the airplane. The best place to nap is on an airplane.

I get in there. I sit on the window seat and before we even back up to take off and to sleep. Same. So the same. But that is not like quality sleep. Like I sleep on an airplane and I could sleep from like Philly to LA and that's a six hour flight. But when I wake up, I don't feel rested. I feel like my eyes were just closed and I wasn't even sleeping.

That's because you were thinking. See, that's the thing. You got to like shut it all down. So do you think that you have sleep? No, no, not apnea. I feel like you have epilepsy. No, narcolepsy. What's narcolepsy?

No, no, no, no. I don't have narcolepsy. Narcolepsy. Epilepsy. Wait, lunchbox. What is epilepsy? That's when you have seizures. Narcolepsy.

Narcolepsy. Narcolepsy. Yeah. That's when you're driving and you fall asleep and you fall asleep behind the wheel or whatever but you fall in a drive through and you fall asleep for two seconds. Is that you? No, no, no, no. I can maintain.

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Of course you did. Me and my boys, we went to Vegas, you know, we're up there at the plaza, stayed the whole weekend, partying, drinking like rock stars, eating like champions and we come home like after a weekend and it's that Tuesday morning and we're doing a show and what's funny is we did talk break and Bobby's like, oh, so give us a baby box update. I'm like, yeah, you know, we got six weeks to go and we go, there's no chance it comes early. I'm like, no, I didn't get to come early and literally four minutes later, my wife text

me is like, I think my water bro. You're lying. I'm not lying. And you were in Vegas? That's like a four or five hour flight. He was on Bobby Bone Show when this happened. Yeah, I just got back. Oh, you had just got back.

Oh, okay. Okay. So I went to Vegas, came back and then the next day she's going like to her water break. So I'm like, oh, no, if I come home to work and I don't know if you guys, I mean, you guys know what it is like to have a kid. So you're prepared and you have a bag when you go to the hospital. Right. Right.

We didn't have a course seat. We didn't have a backpack. We didn't have anything. So I grabbed a backpack, I threw two sweatshirts in there and two books. Why did I grab books? I don't know. But I thought, oh, we'll have time to read. We'll relax.

And we went to the hospital. We didn't have a toothbrush. We didn't have anything. And I thought, okay, it's going to be a false alarm. And we go and they do a test. We're like, no, your water broke. And so we're like, okay. And so how many hours later, the baby was born and wait, and you didn't, she, she didn't

even get to birth in her own clothes or anything. Like you didn't have shit. We had the same thing. We had nothing. Like she had clothes on that she wore there. And that was it. We didn't have a change of clothes. And you did.

Did you know the gender or no? No, we didn't have a gender. So like when the baby was born, the doctor takes it and the doctor doesn't say it's a boy or girl. The doctor, she just put it on my wife's chest and we looked at the baby. Yeah. They did that to me too. And I'm like, and we're like, no, I like it that way.

Because instead of the doctor, nothing, you get to discover for yourself. And then they, they hit the boy and I cut the cord and then the NICU nurses and doctor took it. And that was it. Two times they did that to me. So I have three, you know, I have the three boys and I didn't find out for any of them, but the, for Lincoln and Lux, they didn't tell us what they were. And they put the baby on my chest and I'm like, what is it?

Like, is it going to tell me? What is it? Is it a boy or a girl? Like, what are you all doing? But for Isaac, you know, that when, as soon as he came out, Joe was like, it's a boy. Like he let me know like right away. But the other two, I'm like, were you all going to tell me or? Yeah.

It's like a mystery. So what, what were your thoughts? Did you think it was a boy? Did you think it was a girl? Like, what were you thinking? Going in, I thought it was a girl because it's a dumb reason, but I'm weird and my sister has a daughter. My brother has a son.

And my, my, when we went and got the sonogram, the first sonogram, the heart rate was 140 beats per minute. And that was the exact same heart rate as my sister's daughter. And every time we went, the heart rate matched exactly like my sister's kids. So I thought, well, if she has a daughter, we have the same heartbeat at the same time and same appointment. It has to be a girl. Well, I've heard that theory.

I've definitely. Yeah. The heart rate is a girl. I think, I think I've heard that one. Well, and the fact that it was matching every time, like, I was just like, okay, this has to be a girl. And so when the boy came out, I was like, wow. So that was awesome.

So you were so pumped. So what's, did you guys name him? Yes, we named him. His name is River River. I saw that on Twitter, but I was really rooting for Jackson because obvious reasons. Like I have a Jackson. So I thought, oh, I like river. River is really.

But rivers like unique, you know, it's not like a bunch of kids are going to have river. Right. I know. I know two rivers, but they're ones in California and ones, a middle name in New Mexico. But those were none of the names that you said, like initially. Right. Well, I had thrown that name out there to the right and she was like, she wouldn't feel it.

She would not feel it. So I just kind of left it alone and we kept going. You know, when the baby born, since we started, we don't have a name picked out. So we kind of that night in the hospital, we're kind of going over names and then we didn't name the kid for a week. Hey, that's fine. I wasn't going to say anything about that, not having a name, but yes. So then like she just came back to me that night and she was like, Hey, you know, I've

really been thinking about river and I think we should go then I was like, I'm down. That's the name I wanted from the beginning, but. Oh, that she does have a middle name. What's his middle name? No, we haven't said the middle name because my wife wants to keep the middle name private. Got it. She wants a little privacy form. So we haven't said the middle name.

Okay. Well, river is still super cute. I did it. So cute. And were you like excited that it was a boy or were you kind of hoping it was a girl or what was the reaction? I think every guy was a boy. Right.

Every guy. Yeah. And I wanted a boy because in my family it goes boy girl boy. And so I want the older brother and then we can have a younger sister, whatever the hand to carry on the family name. And I just know how to deal with boys. I don't want to raise a girl because I'm a boy and I don't really know much about girls, but I was super stoked to do the boy.

If I'm being honest. Yeah. I know you guys. Why did you guys not find out? Was it just like something that you just wanted it to be a surprise or was your reasoning? Just a surprise. Yeah. I'm more of the surprise type.

I think it's more fun. And I told my wife, my wife wanted to find out and I said, it's one of the last surprises really that you get of your life. And you can plan. Truly the only. Everything. So why? So why plan?

Just let it happen and then we're going to enjoy the kid no matter what. So let's just wait until it comes and we'll do it. And we'll leave it to the son Graham the first time and she did the little sonogram. We were leaving and she goes, oh, I got to go to the bathroom. So she went back there to go to the bathroom and it was taking a while and I texted her. I said, if you're back there, find it out the gender. We're getting divorced. Yeah.

No, I agree with you though. I think that the, that is one of the only surprises in life. I feel like. That's like fine. And I get y'all's reasoning, but it's just not realistic for a personality like me. Like I'm a planner. I found out at 18 weeks. You know, you can find out at 10 weeks now.

I'm not messing around like y'all did and finding out when I have to look at it. Dinky or whatever. Like whenever he's born. Dinky. I can't. Or as Pete, like whatever he's calling weenie or whatever. Like I can't do all of that. That is too much stress to me.

I need clothes. Gender specific. Like I need. All of that. It's not very many. No. And in the, in the girls section, because I got a lot of them and they have dinosaurs and dogs on them.

Yeah. Obviously thinking it's a boy and I'm like, no, you go to the girls section. They're all pink with ribbons on them. Yeah. Yeah. I can't agree with like dogs and dinosaurs. Sorry.

Yeah. It's super frustrating. Cause it's like, what can you get? It's something really weird that I just saw like an article on the other day about babies. Have you heard about this? Babies? Yeah.

They bees. Like T-H-E-Y-B-I-E-S. Have you heard of it? No, but I know there was a show. No. There was a show called Gabies. No, no, no. This isn't a show.

This is like a new thing that people are doing. So apparently it's where obviously you know if you have a boy or a girl, but you don't say like they're a boy or a girl. So they get to choose and they do that until they're like two years old and they get to choose if they are a boy or a girl, not by like what parts they have. But how? Like how does that work? Like you just do everything gender neutral and then they choose if they're a boy or

a girl. And they choose like whatever they are. And this is not a show. No, this is not a show. This was just like something that I saw online and it was like this political debate about it and if people like thought it was a thing or not a thing and should it be a thing and if people agreed with it or disagree with it or whatever. I thought it was really crazy because I'd never heard of something like that before.

I wonder if like cavemen have these types of like, do you know what I'm saying? Like going all the way back, like did they have these type of gender issue problem identity things or like, do you know what I'm saying? I don't know. But like, I just think obviously, you know, like as a parent, I feel like natural instinct and reaction is you treat a girl like a girl and a boy like a boy. You know what I mean? Like, cause you know what it is.

But then they might, yeah, I guess, but then I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like if they're growing up and you, they start playing with cars, like if you have a boy, your natural reaction is going to be by cars, not babies. Right. And that is so interesting that, I mean, cause what age, I mean, so you just wait and you just kind of gender neutral to their 10 years old? It's like, it's like two, I think, two years old.

Two. But then. And it's like, how do they even know? Like do boys even know they're boys by the time they're two? You know what I'm saying? Right. I get, right, right, right. Probably not.

Very interesting. It was very interesting. You should do some research on it, lunchbox. And you should talk about it. I am going to, I'm going to look it up and I'm going to be like, wow, cause some people on Twitter did. Cause I was like, oh, it's a boy and some people didn't reply and say, why don't you let us decide what it is?

And I'm like. Okay. Yeah, right. Yeah. So it's this new, it's this new thing and I didn't really do like much research or anything like that on it. It was just something like I was scrolling and I saw it and I was like, hmm, interesting. I've never really thought of that ever in my entire life.

So give us any more updates. Do you have anything? Anything? I mean, he is in the NICU and he's been there for what, are we at 10 days now and they just took out the oxygen tubes who is breathing on his own and they took out the IV. So he's breathing on his own. He still has a feeding tube and he's just getting stronger by the day. They got to get the belly ruben down, which is cause is jaundice.

And then he has to be able to take a bottle every feeding for 24 hours before he can come home. So, I mean, we're hoping that, you know, in the next week he comes home, but we have no idea. But I guess it's sad that he has to be there and it's really hard going to the hospital and seeing your child hooked up to wires and not being able to just pick him up and hold him. Right.

But the notions there are, I mean, they're amazing. It's an amazing. It's a sad place, but it's a happy place at the same time because they love on them and they're doing what they need to get stronger and that's the rule. It allowed me to put the crew together. It allowed me to get the house together a little bit. My parents came to town, her parents came to town and we had to clean up the house. We had to get the strenght.

We had to get everything. We were supposed to fly last weekend. So five days after he was born, it was the baby shower in Houston where my wife is from. That's one baby shower, but he came five days before the baby shower, so no baby shower. Right. Wow. That's interesting. Just, I know that you didn't hear the podcast with the other Lindsay that we talked about

from 16 and pregnant, but she had her twins at 29 weeks and her twins were in the NICU for four months and she said that they didn't even get her daughter on a feeding tube until they had sent her, they put her on a feeding tube weeks and weeks and weeks after. They couldn't figure out what was wrong and she wasn't eating. She had dropped weight. She was three pounds and they still didn't think to put her on a feeding tube. So it's so interesting to me that you're saying that he's been in there for 10 days and he has the feeding tube because they didn't think to do that for Lindsay's daughter.

Exactly. But you are in Nashville, which is the Mecca of Medicine. Okay. Okay. It's a different story too. Right. Okay. I mean, well, I'm glad that he's doing really well and he's getting stronger by the day.

I mean, it's got to be heartbreaking, obviously, to have a baby in the NICU, but good news that he's getting stronger. So six weeks early and he weighed how much ever? He weighed five pounds of women ounces, so he was a big old boy, he was a big boy. He was big. So that was the good thing, that was the positive that he was already kind of a big boy for being six weeks early and it's just crazy that he was not supposed to be here until August 29th.

I mean, I just keep thinking about that and I'm just like, wow, like, so this is, I mean, the way I try to look at it and stay positive is, it's bonus time, like, even though I have to go up and see him and not be able to hold him all the time, but I wouldn't be able to see him if he didn't come to those normal times, so we just got to enjoy this extra time, but I say that, but then I start crying and I get sad every time we go, but it's awesome. It's got to be so hard. I had my little one, I went to preterm labor at 34 weeks and then I delivered at 36 weeks and six days, but he was six pounds and 10 ounces when he was born, so he also would

have been a big baby and I don't know, sometimes I just think that your body kind of like knows what it can take and it just naturally puts itself in labor and thank God for modern medicine and, you know, God, I mean, that's it. Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you guys, you may call me crazy, but my dog, one of my dogs, I think knew my wife was about to go into labor because the night before, we were cooking dinner and one of my dogs kept licking my wife's legs, just licking, licking, licking, and she never licked my wife's legs like that, and she used to be me because I'm sweaty, I got over in the soccer game, and she likes the salt, but she would not leave my wife

alone. Oh, I thought you meant that you are the one licking your wife's leg. Oh, no, no, no, no, myself, and the next morning when my wife water broke, the dog was licking her legs again, and she was just like, I don't understand. And then we go to the hospital, and I'm like, well, that tells me what I'm doing. That's why, yeah, 100%, the dogs know, the dogs always know, I feel like, or, yeah, my dad was just like, this is crazy. Yeah, for sure.

No, I don't think that's crazy at all. I think that's facts. So are you excited to be able to bring him home like y'all are all set up and everything now? Well, I wouldn't say we're all set up, we're still working on, I mean, we got the car seat, now we just have to get in the car, because everybody says that it's so hard, 90% of parents do it wrong, someone told me, so we're trying to find that, we're trying to go to the fire station.

Yes, I heard that. I was going to tell you that, that you could go to the fire station and they'll help you put it in, but take it from two moms, you will never be fully prepared. Never. For anything for 18 years or longer. I have to tell you, there has been multiple times, okay, you guys both know I have three kids, I have forgotten the stroller to go to the mall, and it's like, I might as well just turn around, because we're not going at this point, you know what I mean?

And that's, as a mom of three, I'm forgetting the stroller, so yeah, you'll never be fully prepared, but it's a fun ride. And things always come up. We're excited for you, congratulations. I know. Thank you very much. Are you going to send us a picture of him before it goes to Twitter? Yeah.

Well, I haven't put any pictures out. No, yeah, but when, when you do, I can't, I just, I, to me, I'm, because he has wires and to me, I just, it feels weird to put a picture up with him with wires and, and I know that's who he is, but I mean, just for some reason to me, it's just, it's hard to me. Yeah. No. Because I've been, oh, where's the picture?

Where's the picture? And I'm like, not right now. Over sensitive because I don't want him to have wires, isn't it? No, I think that's, that's your instincts. No, I think it's like parental instinct to be like, I don't want you to see my baby in like a tough situation. Right. And it's a, it's a, you know, it's a private time for you guys to, you know, I don't know,

have this time with him. So yeah, whenever you're ready, but we just hope that we get, you know, one of the first pictures before Twitter does. Yeah. We just want to see it before Twitter. I will, I will make sure you guys see it before I put it up. You do that lunchbox and thank you so much for coming on and talking with us. We appreciate it.

Well, thank you guys. I mean, look, I'm telling you, I love you guys and I, I can't tell, I love the show and I mean, I've been a huge fan forever and it may sound weird coming from a 37 year old man like that has watched it from the beginning, but I'm just telling you, I'm a fan and there's nothing weird about it. People, it's just, you get invested. You really do get invested and it's just in the life of drama to the other people on the show bring, you know, you got some normal people and then you got the trauma.

Right. I love it. I think there's more men that watch it than those who will admit to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't think you're the only one because I have had, it's crazy how many guys have come up to me and like in person and like, or like their kids, oh, my dad, my dad said you're on Teen Mom and it's like, yeah.

Why is your dad watching? Right. Your dad's watching. Right. You just, you're, you admit it. So that's cool. Well, let us know, let us know Lunchbox once you go and rally with Bobby on Monday. Let us know what he says about us.

Right. Like when we can come on. All right. I'll let you know. I'll talk to him. Okay. Thank you, Lunchbox. All right.

You guys have a wonderful weekend. You too. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. I just love his energy. Me too. He's got such a good little personality. I love him.

He's great. And I want to see a picture of the baby that I wonder if it looks like him. I bet it does. He looks like somebody that would have a kid that would look like him. But he looks like, yeah. You know what I mean? Like some people you see them and you're like, their kid probably won't look like them when they have a kid.

But I bet his kid looks just like him. I, he's great. I wonder, you know what, how, how honest he was about like who he likes and who he doesn't like. If he didn't like me, do you think he would have told me? Yeah. I think he probably wouldn't have come on, right? He would have never come on coffee combos ever.

Right. I think he's like really honest and does not care. No, I, I, it's sad that his son's in the NICU, but it, do you didn't think that's crazy that they have a feeding tube on his son, but they didn't even think for that? No, because I think. For Paisley's daughter. I mean, for Lindsay's daughter, Paisley. No, because I think that really some hospitals just don't have the staff that others.

Like the resources. Right. I guess. Like, and I think that just being in Nashville, they're probably at Vanderbilt is what I would probably say. Like protocol, a protocol, is that the word? Like if your baby is X amount of pounds, like you, they get a feeding tube. I mean, you would think because this, his baby is only was six pounds and Paisley was

like four dropped down to three and y'all never thought to give her a feeding tube. Exactly. Yeah. That's nuts. Nuts. But anyways, I thought that was a good episode. I like them a lot. Same.

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