Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 51: Baby Showers, Co-Parenting, & Fan Q&A
Episode Date: October 25, 2018Kail is back! Lindsie talks about her mystery illness could have been a deadly salad. Kail talks about planning a baby shower for her sister & how excited she is to have a girl. Lindsie talks abou...t a company that gives rides to minors & how they feel about it. Kail discusses co-parenting with Javi & gives all the updates. They discuss 11 infants found at a funeral home in Detroit. They have a debate about paper plates & bars of soap. Lindsie wants to know how pubes get on a bar of soap. They discuss men wearing fanny packs across their chest & wonder why it's a thing. They wrap up this week with a fun fan Q&A
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Hey guys, it's Kail and we're back with Coffee Combos.
I'm recovered Lindsay, how are you?
Who else would it be?
Oh, well I guess because Susie was on last week, which how did that go?
It was good.
It was good.
We had a good conversation, although it's weird because you and I have been doing this
for close to a year.
We're coming up on our year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next month will be a year.
We had that earlier today.
I was like, I cannot believe I've been podcasting for a year.
I know.
I know it's so crazy.
So it was good, but I'm so glad to have my little co-host back.
Yes, thanks.
I'm happy to be back.
Glad you're alive.
Thanks.
I was struggling.
I was really on the struggle bus for a good week.
My friend had passed away and that was already sad and then like two days later I said, oh
shit, I'm getting a sore throat and I already had strep in March and I don't want to go
through this again.
And I went as soon as I woke up the next morning, got a strep test at the doctor and
sure as shit, it came back positive and I've been, I'm still on antibiotics now, but obviously
not contagious and I'm not in pain.
So I'm happy to be podcasting.
Oh my gosh, I have only had strep throat one time and it was total hell.
I had it when I was in sixth grade and I just remember it so distinctly and I felt like
my parents made me be separated from everybody in the whole family.
I lived in a basement for the time that I was going through strep and I felt like I was
out of school for a really long time.
I swear it was like two weeks.
Yeah, I did have it real bad and I've had it several times as just growing up and I
remember one year I had it real bad.
I had to be out of school for at least two weeks.
I didn't get to play lacrosse or anything and I just made sure, I had a cleaning team
come in here and help me disinfect the house and I also changed my toothbrush because I
think people forget that part of being sick like they'll continue using the same toothbrush.
Actually somebody messaged us on the podcast Instagram about telling you to make sure that
you change your toothbrush.
So that's funny that you say that.
Well, thank you so much for that advice because I truly don't think that if I didn't see that
message, I honestly would have forgot.
So thank you.
So what else has been going on?
Let me just tell you, okay, this round of strep throw I had gotten on steroids as well
for the swelling and the first meal that I had after I could swallow again was leftover
Chinese.
I had coffee, I had ginger ale and it was really glorious.
Of course it was left over.
Yeah, it was first or left over.
Actually, I think there's still some of my fridge.
I'm gonna throw it out, but yeah, that was my first meal back and it was, I actually
I lost three pounds.
Well, since we're talking about meals, remember a few weeks ago, whenever I was talking about
how I got like this mystery illness and I didn't know where it came from.
And yes.
Okay, so I hawked it up to the fact that it was expired muscle milk from Publix.
But then I see on Twitter where all of these people were like tagging me this stuff on
Christy Teagan's Twitter and I was like, what are people tagging me about?
Is she talking shit about me?
Like this is horrible.
And so I go to look and she had tweeted, this is why I don't eat salads, they're dangerous.
And then below it is a recall from Trader Joe's for three salads over Lysteria and
Salmonella from contaminated corn and the salad that I had sure enough had corn in it.
It was a Mexican salad.
Oh, wow.
So that's probably what it was.
It was either that or the muscle milk or maybe a combination of both.
But whatever it was, I felt like I was getting the flu and it was horrible.
Well, I'm glad that's over.
I'm glad all of our illnesses are over.
Not on one.
So I have been kind of telling you guys about like hanging out with my sister and stuff.
She lives in Dallas.
And I did just find out that she's having a girl.
She announced it on social media too.
So obviously I let her have that before I'm announcing it on the podcast.
But I'm actually really, really excited because I don't have girls.
You guys know that.
So I get to be an aunt and I get to have an niece.
So I'm going to plan her baby shower and I'm super excited for that.
So that'll be a lot of fun.
That's so exciting.
I always see these little girls like on social media and how put together they look with like
the headbands and like the outfits.
Yeah.
And I'm like, okay, I never did that.
But that's okay.
I'm fine.
I'm going to move on and it's fine.
It's kind of like, first of all, my sisters do March 10th and my birthday is March 14th.
So I'm like, hopefully she has my niece on my birthday.
I'm going to be the coolest aunt.
I'm going to be so, I'm going to take her to get her nails done.
That's like, you guys know that's my thing is like nails.
So I'm going to take my little niece to go get her nails done and do all the things.
So yeah, that and it's like kind of like falls like right in with like Christmas and stuff.
So I'm excited because it'll be like Christmas shopping and like baby shower planning.
So it'll be like all in one.
Oh my gosh.
Well, do you have officially 10 toenails now?
I have all 10 toenails.
Yes, for sure.
Have all of them.
Perfect.
Perfect.
I was concerned for you for a while.
Not going to lie.
Yeah.
You know what?
I was concerned too.
I didn't know if it was ever going to grow back.
So I was slightly embarrassed, but it's back.
So that's good.
Although I went and got my nails done as soon as I was feeling better from the strip and
I went to this new nail salon because Dover has really crappy nail salons and she didn't
really do what I wanted.
And so I think after my nails were painted, she tried to like file them into the shape
that I wanted, but they were already painted.
And so it ended up looking like shit, but she filed my pointer finger on my left finger
so bad that I literally thought that my fingernail was going to fall off and it started bleeding
on the sides.
And I was like, this is not okay.
Like I have no luck with nail salons.
So I should just really, truly open my own.
I've been wanting to open a nail salon since like a million years ago.
We would never have a problem with disinfecting that salon because you are so anal about
it.
I know.
And I always, every time I go to a nail salon, I always look at like their tools and stuff
and I like see, okay, did they just move from that chair over here and didn't change
their tools?
Like I am watching.
I'm like, I'm not about to put that clipper from that person's funky feet on my toenail.
No way.
No.
Yeah.
I've seen them like open the instruments from that little bag that are supposed to go through
the autoclave to like sanitize, but I know for a fact they don't run that autoclave.
So it does definitely make me nervous.
God.
It's just super disgusting.
But the worst part is, is it doesn't stop me from going.
Right.
It's like, I know better, so I should do better.
But I don't.
But we don't.
So we should just, yeah.
Just continue going.
I was just going to say, I actually have a friend that called me last night.
He FaceTiming me and said that he was moving to Atlanta.
He was like FaceTiming me like on the drive down.
And I was so excited because I was like, I'm really in Atlanta all the time.
So next time I come podcast, I'm going to come visit.
So that wasn't just another thing that happened over the last week.
Well, because Atlanta is awesome and you should move here.
I love Atlanta.
Like I seriously love it.
You should definitely consider moving here.
But I wanted to talk about this article that I saw about the future of kids getting to
soccer practice and it basically like long story short.
It was about this company that is in Los Angeles, Denver and Charlotte as of right now.
But they can, you know, expand.
But it's basically like Uber for kids to get to sports or, you know, whatever the tutoring
sports, whatever it is, and, you know, for like parents who are, you know, working and
can't get off work or needed to stay late for a work meeting, these people can take
minors to these activities.
And in the article, it also talked about how, you know, that Uber and Lyft and whatever
do carry minors, but they don't, they can't have an account.
So what happens is if you put a child in an Uber or a Lyft in their minor, then the parents
account could get suspended for basically like a violation because they don't promote
caring underage children, you know, to, you know, I guess it's just a liability to do
that.
So supposedly this company have drivers that are former caregivers and most of them, I
thought it was really interesting that they notated that most of them were female that
drove and that in some cities that they were, they catered to the upper class because, you
know, to working parents that were invested in their careers that didn't have time to
get off work or, you know, whatever, that these were the majority of their customer
base that was using it, which I found kind of interesting because I would have thought
it would have catered more to middle, middle class people.
I would have, I would have assumed so too.
And maybe that's just ignorance on my behalf, but like in my experience, especially in high
school when I didn't have rides and stuff, it was because my mom was working full time
or my caretakers were working full time and my friends who were, you know, came from more
of like the wealthy families, those were the parents that were able to get out of work
early or take off of work early to kind of cheer us to cheering or lacrosse or whatever
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So yeah, I think you have a good point there.
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So I thought I was just like, you know, as I was reading, I just felt like, oh, wow,
that's interesting that it would be the upper income bracket that would be using a service
like this because I just wouldn't, I wouldn't see that, but it's costly.
It's like for 15 miles, it's $15.
So you're paying a dollar a mile for it.
So it's almost like the people who would need it, you know, the parents that can't take
off of work or get out early to take their kids to sports, like their kids need it, but
it's almost so expensive that they can't really get it.
Right.
I feel like that's everything with the fricking system, like, you know, everything related
to income and stuff like that is always like, okay, you need it, but you make too much,
but still not quite enough.
So that kind of sucks.
It does.
If you work for a service like this, if it's intended to, you know, be able to help parents
out or whatever it is, it should be reasonable and cost that, you know, not just the upper
class could be able to afford it, but also middle or lower income families that could
benefit from staying at work to make the extra money, but still want their kids involved
in sports and tutoring, you know, whatever it is.
Right.
I mean, or even just like, I'm not saying me, but, you know, I have to divide mine between
three.
So like, if Isaac's, you know, got some kind of practice here and Lincoln's got some
kind of practice there, I can send one, you know what I mean, and kind of divide and conquer.
But if I don't have the money, you know, I'm just saying like for single moms that have
different kids and different activities, like they could kind of be with the younger ones.
Because the older, as the older you get, you don't really need the parents at the practices
where like the younger ones, you still kind of need to be there.
So yeah, I mean, I guess it's kind of, maybe, but it's still new.
I mean, from what you're telling me, it sounds like it's still new.
So maybe as time goes on, they'll kind of figure, okay, so yeah, like maybe they'll,
they'll kind of work out the kinks and like make it, you know, work for everybody because
I feel like Uber is kind of affordable for just about everyone.
I mean, I don't really know because like they have like Uber carpool and stuff like that.
So like maybe they'll do something like that for the sports.
I mean, it's definitely a good idea.
Exactly.
And I mean, it's, this kind of reminded me of just how we've talked about before about
outsourcing tasks, you know, and how grocery stores now have the click list, you know,
where you can order it online, go to the grocery store at the specific time of your pickup
park, and then they put it in your car, you know, the convenience, time convenience things.
But as a mom, would you, even if this service was available to you, would you use it?
Because I know even if that was a service that was in my area, I wouldn't use it, but
you know, I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, when you, when you first read it, I was just kind of like, it's definitely
thoughtful and convenient and can be useful.
Personally, I don't know that I would use it, you know, maybe if my kids were in high
school, but like as like my kids are eight, five, almost five and one, I wouldn't obviously
use it.
Yeah, I just don't know how I feel about, you know, calling up a service for Jackson
and being like, oh, you've got soccer practice today, but I've got a nail appointment.
So I've called your ride and they're going to be here to get you in like 0.5.
That's weird.
Yeah, I don't, I think more like older middle school, high school would work.
That would be a good.
And I also wish that they went into more detail about, okay, once these kids get in the car,
I think about, you know, like all the aspects, right?
So once the kids get into the car, do they make sure that one, they're safely secured
in the vehicle, do they walk them to the practice to where like the exchanges with the coach
or, you know, the trainer or the tutor or whatever it is.
Is it like a handoff system or do they just drop the kid at the curb and then like trust
that they're going to go in?
Right.
That's kind of sketchy too.
And I feel like that's, that leaves a lot of room for error.
So I don't know how I feel about that.
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Now let's get back to the show.
So really quick, I wanted to talk to you about this little dilemma that I have right now.
So you guys know Lincoln's birthdays next month and I would actually love to know what
other parents do that are not having the best co-parenting relationship because Javi and
I have separate parties for Lincoln and that's just the way that it's been.
So this year, my party for Lincoln is before Javi's party for Lincoln.
It just happened to fall that way.
But Javi got the school invitations into the kids' cubbies before I did, I guess.
And so I'm not really sure if I should then also put my party invitations in there or
if I should just kind of let Javi's party be the party for the school friends and just
kind of keep Lincoln's party that I'm having for him as family and friends that we have.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, but let's back up for a second because I've got lots of questions.
So you guys don't have the best co-parenting relationship.
At one point earlier in the year, you guys were kind of okay as far as co-parenting and
now it's kind of like taking a turn for whatever reason that may be.
And then was it like a mad dash to see who can get the invitations into the cubbies?
Was it premeditated or...?
We'll see and that's what I don't know because I just ordered extra to put in the cubbies
and I was just like, didn't think anything of it really.
Like I wasn't like, oh, let me race to get to the cubbies and then a friend of mine had
texted me and said, hey, we got Javi's party invitation and I just...
She didn't say whether she was going or not and quite frankly, it's not my business.
I don't care.
But I had texted her back and I said, well, then is it even worth it for me to put my
party?
Because one, I don't want to confuse everybody because the other parents don't know whether
Javi and I are together or not or if this is like a new invitation or if it's a separate
part, you know what I mean?
Like it's just like a lot of stuff.
But then I also was thinking, okay, well, this might be good to get another invitation
in there because then if they can't make it to Javi's or they can't make it to mine, they
still have the option to go to another party.
But like, I know it's confusing for parents to try it because a lot of the parents that
are in Lincoln's class are still together and so I don't want them to have to feel like
they have to explain it to their kids.
Do you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, or I don't want them to feel like they have to get two gifts or anything
like that.
So I almost am like, maybe I just don't invite the kids again.
That's such a sticky situation because one, naturally, just as an outsider looking in
the situation, knowing you and then knowing Javi, I feel like ideally for Lincoln and
for his friends and for the future and for you guys, it would be to be able to get along
for the one afternoon that it takes to do a joint party.
That would be the ideal situation.
However, it's not that way and you're in a tough situation as far as Lincoln's concerned
because you don't invite the kids that he plays with every day at school.
Then he's going to have more fun at Javi's party because all of his friends are there.
But then you do invite them.
You risk the chance of people thinking that you all are dysfunctional or whatever people
are going to think or be confused because they might think, oh goodness, maybe the party
changed.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Right.
Or they feel obligated to buy two gifts and I don't want that.
And maybe you put on the, well, you've already printed them so then there's that.
Sometimes people put in lieu of gifts, something like charity or something, but I don't know.
That is a very sticky situation.
I know if I was in it, I would just invite the kids as well.
And if parents text, which normally they do, then if they have any questions or that question
comes up, then you can address it at that point that it is two separate parties and
that you would love to have them and not go into any detail.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
I don't think Javi or I invited the school kids any year prior to this.
And that's why it hasn't been an issue before.
But now that Lincoln's obviously older and he's been with these kids since he was at
this school, he's developed good friendships with these kids.
So yeah, I guess I didn't even think about the fact that, yeah, I put my phone number
on here so they could text.
It sucks because this year, Joe and I are doing a joint one for Isaac, which is the
mature thing.
Like that's the mature thing to do just out of curiosity, just out of curiosity, though,
why can't y'all do a joint party?
Y'all just can't get along well enough to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we just we can't get along and we are at each other's throats constantly and
lately, it's a lot of he's really nasty to me and I'll text him back and say whatever
and then he'll want something.
We fought over a different birthday party not too long ago.
And then the next day, he was like, hey, can I have Lincoln for this day?
And I was just like, you literally just told me no for me taking him to a birthday party.
And so it's just a lot of tit for tat.
And it's kind of stupid, but we just we for whatever reason, we just can't get it together.
Can you not just be the bigger person and just say, hey, I feel like I am.
That's what I that's what I do.
You're constantly the one you're constantly.
Yeah, it's and I mean, I know because because I've seen stuff.
So I know, but I'm just saying, you know, it might be to the point where you just have
to lay it lay it down and say, hey, you know, at this point, I don't care.
If you like me personally, I don't like you.
However, that's not relevant because what matters is Lincoln and wait, time out.
Did I tell you?
Did we talk about on the podcast the the phone number thing for Lincoln for Lincoln soccer team?
What? So Lincoln had a soccer game and soccer pictures.
Did I not tell you this?
No. Oh my gosh.
So this is another thing that we're dealing with.
And I'm not in no way am I trying to talk shit or bash hobby.
That's not what this is about.
This is real life, co-parenting problems because I know that there are people who can relate.
And so that's the only reason why I'm talking about this.
So Lincoln had soccer pictures and soccer games and I guess at the very first game of the season,
not the first game of his life, the first game of the season.
I was in Atlanta with you podcasting, you know, doing whatever we do.
It was not my weekend and I did miss the first game and they,
the soccer coach had gotten all the parents numbers.
Javi put Lauren's number down as the other parent.
Oh, wow.
So I was never getting updates for up until about two weeks ago.
I was never getting updates.
I was never getting game cancellations, nothing at one of the games.
Javi and Lauren are at one end, I'm at the other and the coach's wife is sitting next to me
and she takes a picture on picture day and she's like,
I had said, oh, can you send that to me?
I don't think I'm in any of the group texts or anything.
She goes, yeah, we have Lincoln's dad and the girl, but we definitely don't have your number.
And I'm thinking to myself, how one, disrespectful is that?
And two, not on her behalf, like on, you know, Javi, like,
whether I was there for the game or not, it wouldn't be hard for you to add me.
Hey, Kale's not here, but here's her number for the future.
I don't mind if Lauren's added as a third parent as a point of contact,
obviously because they live together, they're having a baby together,
like that's fine with me.
But don't just completely disregard me as a parent because I missed a game.
I can't tell you how many times Javi's missed games or practices
because he's got CrossFit stuff happening or he's traveling.
And I don't say anything.
I'm still going to put Javi down as a point of contact.
Now, if it was, if the roles were reversed and I'm taking Lincoln to basketball practice
and I put Chris down as a point of contact and not Javi, he's going to be right.
That's just, to me, it's disrespectful.
I don't mind adding Lauren, but you don't need to completely disregard me
because I wasn't at the game.
This isn't the first game of his, you know, whole soccer career.
Do you know what I'm saying?
And so I, these are real life parenting things that I'm just like truly struggling with
because I just don't have, I never had this problem with Joe
and I never had this problem with Chris.
So it's like, it's almost like underlying jabs for whatever reason, you know,
it's like going out of your way because obviously if I was filling out paperwork,
Jack, Will is Jackson's dad, whether I'm with him or not, you know?
So that's never going to change.
So I texted Javi from the other end of the soccer field and I was like,
Hey, like why would you do that?
And he goes, well, don't miss games.
I don't care if I was there or not.
I'm still his mother.
Right.
And you were working and it wasn't your other thing.
It wasn't, it wasn't like I just missed it just to miss it.
I was truly working and I like ask anybody.
I'm still showing up to my kids games and practice most of the time,
even if it's not my week, but this weekend that we had already planned this podcasting
where I was traveling out of the state, you know what I'm saying?
So it's not like I was just lolly gagging around.
I don't know the whole thing was frustrating, but anyway, we can move on.
We don't have to, I was just the Lincoln, the Lincoln party and the Lincoln soccer thing
was a big thing for me over the last couple of weeks.
And, you know, I would just love to hear back from people who are also co-parenting
and what that looks like and how you guys resolve these issues.
Cause like I said, I didn't go through this with Joe.
So I don't know how I can't really, but do you think it's because that you are married to
Javi or do you just think that they're two totally different people?
Um, you know, I think what Joe and I and V went through was a lot of our age.
So there was no maturity there.
So as we got older, we were like, Oh wow, we were really stupid, mainly me.
Like I was just really immature.
And, um, I think with the hobby situation, this is who hobby is right.
It's not about age or maturity.
It's just who he is.
Well, I just hope for the future, um, because, you know, Lauren is having Javi's other child that
y'all can have a meeting of the minds because that's going to be difficult
when another baby comes into play.
But when another, when another baby comes into play, also
some of the focus might be taken off of you as far as, you know, trying to be vindictive
or, you know, whatever he's trying to be towards you.
Some of that focus might be removed because he's going to be busy.
I don't think so because I brought up this other issue when I was talking to Chris the other day.
I said, you don't know how many times I've asked, you know,
or tried to arrange to have my kids on certain weeks so that I could do something
for them, like with my family, like my extended family.
And, you know, Joe might say yes and Javi will say no.
And when Javi has his next baby, there are going to be times where he wants Lincoln,
that's not on his weeks.
And I could be spiteful and tell him fuck off because you were nasty to me when I wanted,
you know what I mean?
And so I think that he kind of needs to be conscious of that.
And I wish that he would kind of open his eyes to see that a little bit because
there are going to be times where he wants to take Lincoln on something,
to something or do something to have both of his kids.
And he won't be able to do that because I have plans or whatever the case may be.
And so I think he's going to struggle with that and be nasty with that as well.
I feel like this is so relatable and so many people probably go through this stuff.
And I don't know, I was always raised that you don't fight fire with fire,
but in situations like this, you just want to burn that shit down, you know, because...
Right, it's like, literally, if I could tell you this other birthday party fricking debate,
it was so frustrating.
And I was just like, and then literally a day or two later, he's like,
but can I have Lincoln for this?
I'll do anything.
And it's like, I literally just asked you to take him to my friend's son's birthday party
and you told me no.
So it's just a mess.
But anyway, yeah, if you guys have any co-parenting advice on these two subjects,
the birthday party and the soccer thing, let us know.
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Well, you know the article that we both saw.
It was so weird.
I saw on the same day that you sent it to me and I was like,
oh, she's getting savvy with articles now.
Actually, I have to say that my friend Kristen sent me that article and then I sent it to you.
Okay.
So the 11 infants that were found at the funeral home.
Yeah.
That was insane.
And I want to know because they were already shut down for prior.
Yes, unsanitary deplorable and unsanitary conditions as well as other violations.
But were they hiding the bodies and never buried them?
Or did someone like go up in there and put them there?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, was it separate from like the funeral home stuff?
Or what were they doing?
Like, weren't people paying for funeral services?
So wouldn't the bodies have to be in the caskets?
Well, so it was stating that from previous encounter, I guess when the state went in or
you know, whatever to do investigation from a previous time that involved bodies had been
stored for months in a garage without refrigeration and some were badly decomposed and they listed
violations that were including fraud, deceit, dishonesty, incompetence, gross neglect,
and the practice of mortuary science.
So I don't know how all of this happened because I have the same question as you.
If somebody is having a body embalmed, would it be, you know, they're not having funeral services
so they don't know what happened with the bodies?
I have no idea, but I do know that.
Maybe they were closed, maybe they didn't do viewings and maybe they were closed caskets
and so they never put the bodies in them.
That's one thing that I kind of thought.
Also, for those listening, this happened in Detroit, Michigan.
And the babies were remains of infants and stillborns.
So it also makes me wonder, you know, there's a lot that can go into this, right?
So if they were supposed to cremate or whatever, like maybe they have
urns with not real ashes in them, like I literally have no idea, but it didn't give
a ton of information other than the fact that there had been previous issues in this Detroit
funeral home and it was unclear how long the remains had actually been there.
So yeah, I just think it's such a sad super.
Yeah, that is really sad.
And I wonder if those bodies have been like, did the authorities like reach out to the
families? Did they ever identify them?
Like I want, there's just so many questions.
And I mean, I don't know how, you know, to be in like the funeral type business to have a,
what do they call it, like mortuary, like whatever it is, to be in that type of business.
I feel like you would have to be super honest and very sympathetic for people that are going
through the losses.
A loss, like grieving.
Yeah.
And I mean, to find something like this is just completely inappropriate and just, I mean,
it's disturbing and it's, you know, heinous like babies.
I mean, not that it makes it any better if it was adults, but I'm just saying.
No, but it's a baby.
Right.
Right.
Like, you know, they pull on your heartstrings a little.
So if anybody's heard anything about this, then make sure you send us a message to the
podcast Instagram because this was really all that I could find on the subject.
There was no real follow up or anything like that.
So let us know what you guys think.
Okay.
So I had, it must have been before I got sick or recently, people over for dinner.
And their first thing was, do you have paper plates?
And I said, no, I do not have paper plates.
This is not an event.
This is not a party.
This is my home.
This is where we eat dinner.
I don't do paper plates.
Like that's not a thing for me because I have a dishwasher and I also can hand wash dishes.
So I am not going to the grocery store and buying paper plates every single time
to eat because it's more convenient to throw things away.
Like, I'm just not doing that.
So I'm going to have to completely disagree with this.
You're, no, Lindsay, no, no.
I thought you were going to be on my side with this one.
You did, you cannot sit here and tell me that you guys eat off paper plates and use
plastic cups all the time.
Okay, we don't use plastic cups all the time, but honestly, we use the cups that
just like keep ice a lot.
So, you know, like whatever, like a Yeti or whatever it is.
So that's the cups that we use mostly in the house.
And then Jackson will use like a Tervis or, you know, whatever.
So really paper plates and paper cups like that, we don't use that.
Paper plates, yes.
I buy those at Costco or Sam's as soon as I run out, I have another pack ready to go.
Why?
Why not just use dishes?
So I have two different sets of dishes.
So I'm not like in a crisis for dishes.
It's just sometimes if I'm really busy and I've already cleaned and my dishwasher,
like I've got my dishwasher running and I fix a meal and I don't really want to mess
with the dishes, then I'll just get out paper plates and just throw them away.
And the only thing I have to clean is the silverware.
Sometimes we do it on the weekends for like sandwiches or...
Okay, that's understandable.
A sandwich is maybe a pizza night, but like a regular thing to like eat meals off paper
plates is not a thing for me.
I do not, the only reason why I would ever have paper plates or plastic plates in my
house is if they're leftovers from a birthday party.
But you wouldn't regularly just like buy them?
No, I don't keep them in the house typically.
So in the mornings before school, if Jackson's having like muffins or pancakes,
now I do, if I do oatmeal, then I do it in a, you know, glass bowl.
But like pancakes or muffins or something like that, then, you know,
that's going on a paper plate and I'm throwing it away and then getting on with my day.
I'm just not for the paper plate.
I mean, I just, I can't get on board with it.
So I thought you were going to be on my side with this and I'm truly like shocked to be honest.
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Okay, what's the debate?
Bars of soap. So like, where did bars of soap come into play, and where did they go out of play, because...
I still have bars of soap in my shower.
So you use a bar of soap?
So I have a bar of soap in my shower, and I also have some type of like exfoliator, whether it's a bar, I have, like right now I have a butter, I think it's like a butter bar, a butter buffer, some shit like that from Lush, and it's in like a bar, it's like in a bar shape that I use as an exfoliator, or I also have like body wash in like a bottle.
So I use, it just really depends on the day. My kids right now, they're using bars of soap, or like a body wash, and we don't have like a preference, but I know a lot of people that still use bars of soap.
So the only thing that we use bars of soap is if Jackson says something he's not supposed to say, and then he gets his mouth washed out, like that he's going to take a bite off of the bar of soap, but other than that, we just don't use them, we just use like whatever the liquid soap is.
Right, like body wash?
Yeah, like a body wash, that's what we use, we don't use bars of soap, but has anyone ever seen a bar of soap? Like I've been lots of places, but in like other people's houses and stuff, and sometimes you can't help, but like if you're going to the bathroom and their curtain is open, and you see they've got like a bar of soap there, and there's like hair all over it, or whatever, it's not like I'm snooping, it's just I see it.
And you're like, oh, yeah, you know what that is, like, you're like, oh, but also, it's unsanitary, like somebody's going to go and like put that bar of soap all over their funky body like they're, but they should not be rubbing the soap on to their body.
There should be a loofa or a washcloth, like you don't just rub the soap directly onto your body, then how do you get pubes on there.
You, well, you're right, people are rubbing them on their body, but like for me at my house, we use washcloth or a loofa. So that's not happening for us.
But I have seen it and I know what you're talking about and definitely have picked a few pubes off, not my own pubes, I've definitely picked pubes off of bars of soap and it's quite disturbing.
Okay, why are you picking pubes off of a bar of soap, you just don't use it because you know that somebody's rubbed that all over their balls.
Well, it was probably Chris. It was Chris. I would pick them off, but he also has a really long beard. So like you would pick them off.
Do you know what I'm saying? And like, then I would use the soap on the washcloth and the soap is already clean and I know that he's not a dirty person.
If I had a bar of soap in my shower and there was pubes on it, I would throw it out, even though I know it was Will that used it.
Okay, I mean, I can't. Wow, people are gonna think I'm a dirty bitch, but if I see if I see people like I don't know that is not a thing that does not happen.
No, no, no, bars of so are just not in part. Have you ever been into a public bathroom and you see a bar of soap sitting there and I'm like, Oh,
Oh, I would never that I would never, never, never, that's not that's not a thing for sure.
The fact that you expect me to use this as a form of cleansing material, I would just rather not okay. No, no, no, I would just rather not wash my hands and risk the chances versus putting my hands on that bar of soap.
Yeah, no, in that situation, I have to agree with you for sure. I prefer though. Yes, I agree with you in that situation, but I prefer to wash my hands over hand sanitizer.
I don't feel like you're fully washing the germs off and like rinsing them. Like my hands still feel dirty after I use hand sanitizer like yeah I'll use it if that's all I have but also I would prefer to just like wash my hands.
Agreed. So when we're at home I always make Jackson wash his hands but if we're out and it's not accessible and I know that he's going to pitch a fit about going to the bathroom.
I will get out the hand sanitizer because I feel like something's better than nothing.
Right.
But agreed. I feel like it's not as clean as using soap.
Because like what, yeah, it kills the germs like the hand sanitizer kills the germs but there's still dirt on your hands.
Like you're not washing the dirt off. So yeah, that's another thing.
But can we just ask, okay, anybody who's listening, if you see a bar of soap that has pubes on it, do you assume that somebody rubbed it on their balls and on their ass and then put it back?
I mean also though like nobody's getting in my shower that I probably am not already like intimate with like nobody's showering in my bathroom unless like there wouldn't be pubes on my bar of soap unless it's someone that I'm already intimate with so it's like not a big deal.
Still a big deal.
I don't care if I'm intimate or not like not now.
That would be like me using the same toothbrushes will because I kiss him.
So I'm not going to comment on that.
So like if you're like super grossed out by like pubes on a soap.
Are you like one of those people that like you wouldn't want will to have any hair at all.
Because like hair doesn't really bother me.
I mean, I'll be honest there's been times that I'm like, Will are you planning on shaving like at any time.
At least manscape.
Okay, moving on.
Yeah, I mean, I like him to have like the five o'clock shadow or like the scruff on his face but as far as body hairs.
No, I'm like you need to clean it up.
Clean it up.
Okay.
I'm not judging I was just because I was it was funny about the pubes.
How would you feel if like will war a fanny pack across his chest.
Well, when I saw that on your Instagram so guys Kale posted on her Instagram about people wearing fanny packs across their chest and me specifically men.
Yes, specifically men and I commented and said nobody does this, which then Kale decides to be a smart ass and send like 95 pictures of people wearing fanny packs across their chest.
Along with the statement that hobby did it and I'm like there's no way like this is not a thing the frickin soccer game and I was so just like, I don't know what it is that turned me off about it and I already didn't like it.
I just don't I don't think it looks good. And I see a lot of people who like flex for Instagram that will wear like these Gucci or Louis Vuitton type of fanny packs across their chest.
And I just, first of all, what the fuck is in there, your car keys in your wallet. So like what's the point. I don't understand what you're keeping in this fanny pack that is going across your chest, like a seatbelt.
Okay, so I've saw a few people like this and let me explain what I thought it was okay so.
When I saw these people I was like oh that person just looks like they've got twisted around you know how sometimes like your ring will get twisted around and it'll be like the back will be on the front or whatever.
Yeah.
Or sometimes like sweaters will all get all twisted up and you got to like rearrange them so I thought oh that was like on their back and they got like twisted up and it like got.
No, it's intentional and it's just like why I don't it doesn't look nice it doesn't complete an outfit this is just my opinion and you know what when I when I posted that someone.
A lot of people agreed with me like they were like either they were like this doesn't really happen or they agreed with me but there was one person that was like why are you so fucking judgmental.
Let people do what they want and it's just like yeah I don't really give a shit that much I was just like making a joke because like to me it doesn't look good and I was just stating my opinion.
But hey by the way the person who said that if you're wearing it you don't look good so.
So I just that was my personal opinion and I just it makes me cringe like I'm probably not going to go anywhere with you if you have a fanny pack across your chest like that's just how I feel and you guys have a right to not want to go out with me if I have you know something that you guys don't like it's just I think it looks
ridiculous.
Well, so now that we have talked about all the front fanny pack we're we have we have a few Q&A that we're going to answer and if you guys want any answers to any questions you can always send us questions on the podcast Instagram and we will likely answer them because there's
nothing to hide but you might be shocked by the answers that you get.
The first one is for UKL how do you manage cleaning and keeping a household and still raising three kids do you delegate chores.
Okay, so lately it has been harder to keep the house clean and not because of the older two boys so much but more because Lux will literally get into everything and just like drag everything out.
And some people might say this is hard some people might say it's not enough but my boys have been.
They do take turns taking out the trash so when the trash is full guess what it's going out recycling to they help each other take the recycling out and then for me at my house I don't care whose toys it is if the baby brings it out if Isaac brings it out if Lincoln brings it out.
We're all helping clean up if I say clean up that means clean up because Lincoln's room is actually attached to the playroom and so they're all going to the same place anyway and at some point one of them all played with it at whatever point of the day.
Isaac kind of knows to he he helps take the dogs in and out like he'll let them in let them out.
And they know to put their dishes in the dishwasher so it's just kind of like letting them know and because I do have boys I don't know how it is with girls I do have to constantly remind them to do this or to do that.
But they do kind of just like know to pick up after themselves so that's kind of what we do I do find myself.
Sometimes it gets a little chaotic when they're about to go to their dads. So if we're doing something before I do find myself cleaning up more than they would on a Sunday.
And a lot of times we'll put stuff on the steps that we know has to go upstairs by the end of the night.
So our steps are covered and then the floor the main living floor is clean and I try to keep it that way because you know filming and dogs and company and so it's a little bit of chaos but Lindsay you don't have any toys on your main floor you keep them in the basement right.
Yeah so Jackson's playrooms in the basement so to be perfectly honest if he goes down there and plays and makes a mess as long as it's picked up before bedtime.
I don't say anything it's like you know he's having fun whatever it's I don't care because I'm not looking at it but before you go to bed that stuff is going to be picked up because I'm going to go down there in the morning and I'm going to have to see it then I'm
going to be pissed so right right. Yeah and as far as just like the general household chores I do the inside will does the outside we've talked about that before, and Jackson doesn't really do that many chores.
If Keith is chores then like he halfway does that so yeah we're kind of getting into chores so I figured by the time kindergarten starts that he will be able to do more things so my cabinets are really high and stuff so it wouldn't be feasible for him to like unload a dishwasher he's
gonna have to do that. He does however he's learned how to sort laundry so he does sort his own clothes you know when he comes home from school he sorts his own clothes when he takes them off and puts them in the bin so I'm trying to teach him
things that he can carry on throughout life so when he becomes somebody's husband in 95 years that he'll be able to be a good husband and know how to do things and not like a Neanderthal.
You know what I did tell Isaac that the other day because he's the oldest and so I do feel like a lot of responsibility falls on to him but I told him the one day I was just so frustrated between Isaac and Lincoln I was like you guys I've asked you so many times to do things that you're just
close to know and I said I know that you guys can't understand this now I said but what you guys are doing right now is going to you're gonna carry it with you forever so if you're right now at eight and five years old you're not picking up your clothes
and putting them in the hamper and you're leaving tooth when you brush your teeth and leaving toothpaste stuck to the bottom of the bowl in the sink that's not how I live I clean the toothpaste out of the bottom of the sink I put my clothes in the hamper right away
I like these are little things that you're going to carry with for the rest of your life so like I'm trying to like remind them and I just get so frustrated sometimes that I have to tell you six times to you know rinse the sink out or whatever the case maybe so
I always a constant struggle I always try to like think whenever I get frustrated I breathe for a second and I'm like okay but remember he's only five and these are things that are going to shape him into the person that he's going to be you know like somebody who will pick his
up for his wife and not leave them in the middle of the floor for her to have to pick them up this is going to be somebody that's going to do small little things that's going to hopefully in the future make his wife's life easier
because I would be mortified to have a daughter-in-law talk about me and say wow she really was like a shitty razor
no I get you I totally feel you on that so a lot of people asked what made you and will get back together I think we've covered this a lot of times I think just
we've been together for 10 years and we reached a point of
feeling like okay is this what we're supposed to be doing are we just doing this because we're comfortable doing this and the fact that we had a child together and got married so young
we both kind of felt like we had not lived enough life and I think we just realized that okay we have a child together and not only because we have a child together but because we've created a life together
and the answer is not to give up I think that's what brought us back together and I think that
I've always read the quote as we were going through separation if it's meant to be it'll be and you know if you walk away from it and let it go
if it comes back to you then it's meant to be yours and I just feel like that is definitely true to my situation so anybody's in a situation like that I just urge you to make sure that you really really think things through before
making life changing decisions because I've heard so many people tell me that have been divorced say years after you know years removed if I had it to do over I would have stayed
but I've also heard on the flip you know I'm so glad I got out so I think it just really depends on the person yeah 100%
Okay the next question how do you handle a breakup he still wants to act like we're together doing things together with the kids
Okay that one's tricky for me because I feel like you can't have your cake and eat it too on the relationship side but like it is nice for the child to do things with both parents
but maybe just keep it kind of on occasion like it doesn't need to be all the time or every week it kind of can just be like okay we're going to go to the pumpkin patch on October 25th
and we're going to go from this time to this time and like kind of like set specific times almost because otherwise lines get blurred you got you kind of cross lines I don't I don't know that's tough that's tricky
because obviously you want to keep a united front and let the kids know that you can get along but without blurring lines because then what happens when they start new relationships and you can no longer do those things right away
because I think at first when they start new relationships it'll be hard at first until you kind of get back into the swing of things of like adjusting to new partners and I don't know
and I definitely think you know because I thought about this one will and I separated on how are we going to move forward with being together knowing everything about each other for the past 10 years like we've known each other since we were 19 years old how are we going to be a united front for Jackson
but still independently live our own lives separate from each other and right I feel like that for me was never going to be an option for me to be around him because naturally I feel like there was still feelings there because I I still loved him always so
I don't know how you're supposed to act if you have those feelings for someone and then still one person still wants out and still have to try to keep that united getting along front I mean
maybe just keep it to occasions like maybe it's just birthday parties and sporting events you know what I mean like maybe y'all don't do pumpkin patch trips together and stuff like that.
Yeah because I think maybe keeping it to where other people are also involved and it's not just you and your you know past significant other X whatever you call it and then your child because that's very family like you know so it's hard to not be
thinking about the what if when you're in a situation when it's only you with the kids.
Right and like I said initially when the new partners start coming around you're going to know what I don't care what anyone says in the beginning you're going to feel some type of way you might be over this person but you might feel some type of way and so then it's going to take some
readjusting and then it's like what does that look like then do the family the family things just stop or do they.
You don't you know they don't happen for a while and then you move for like I just think there's a lot so maybe just stick it to like birthdays and you know.
Big stuff like that and it's hard for the kids to that's the main focus like you should not be doing things that are going to set your kids up for failures or giving them false hopes so you shouldn't be doing.
In front of them that could potentially give them hope that you know maybe you're going to get back together when you know that that's not like in the cards.
Right yeah that's a good which is hard that's hard for a lot of people.
Okay so I don't know if this is because I look pregnant but a lot of people asked for me to confirm or deny if I'm pregnant and I'm going to deny pregnancy.
Yeah maybe I'm just.
Looking pregnant I don't know but yeah I'm definitely not.
Okay so the next question is what careers would you have if you weren't on TV.
And why.
I always wanted to go to dental school so I didn't originally go to school for dental hygiene and I could not deal with the course load they had told the students that they recommended you know not having a job just because the workload was so.
Heavy so I ended up and I was working two jobs I had Isaac so I ended up dropping out.
I do think that I if I wasn't on TV that I would have eventually pursued that.
And I still think about it today like something in like dental or like nursing.
However, I don't know how I would have paid for it.
So I'm not really sure.
It's such a hard question to answer whenever you're in one situation and you try to like think back and try to remove the TV stuff out of your life and try to think okay well what would it have been like because it's not like that because you have.
I, I did have, I mean I still have my cousins that were willing to, they really helped me like get into like housing and help me fight like fill out the forms for like the FAFSA for college and stuff.
So I do think that they would have helped me in any way that they could just to get through school but I just I don't know if I would have had like the, I don't know that's that's a really tough question.
I definitely feel like if I had not done anything in entertainment, I would have been in marketing in some capacity whether that be like marketing campaigns advertising campaigns.
I just love stuff like that and that's what I went to school for so I definitely feel like, you know that's, that's where I was going I graduated in a summer semester in July, and we started filming our pilot in August and I had already started looking for jobs
like Coca Cola and where else did I look GE all different types of larger corporations. And that would have been perfectly fine for me.
Also though I had I was already pregnant at the time whenever I graduated so I don't know what that would have looked like you know I think about like getting hired.
Yeah, yeah, because you know I will and I had the conversation. I was very visibly pregnant by the time I graduated so what would that have looked like what somebody have hired me if I would have gone into a large corporation like this with,
you know, a degree with a high GPA coming out of school with what I have been looked at differently because I was pregnant and about to have to take maternity leave I don't know.
It's weird because in my experience I don't, I don't truly don't think that they would have hired, but I, I got pregnant as a dental assistant, very pregnant with Lincoln and I worked all the way up until I had him.
I think it really just depends I mean, I think a dental assistant, those jobs kind of like the turnover is pretty quick where I was it was in an inner city and so like there was always somebody else that was you know that could they could find.
But I mean I got pregnant when I was, I mean I got hired while I was pregnant so I don't know.
But a huge corporation like Coca Cola or GE or anything like that I don't, I don't know that you would have been hired until maybe after you have Jackson.
I definitely think I wouldn't have been hired because if you know the types of jobs that I would have been applying for would have been being a moving part or you know person and large advertising campaigns or whatever like you can't just like fall off the map two months after
you've been hired so I don't know I just thought that was an interesting question because it makes me really think about you know what would I be doing and like what would my life be like what you know would I be living in a different
place would I have relocated to a different city you know I mean it just makes me wonder like where I would be.
Yeah, for sure it does. Good question. So that's pretty much it that's all we have for today but I enjoyed having you back.
Yes, I'm so glad that we got to catch up. Don't get sick on me again.
I will not. I'm taking my care of vitamins so I can keep my immune system up.
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