Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 62: Quitting Teen Mom 2, Sex After Kids, & Addressing Accusations

Episode Date: January 24, 2019

Kail & Lindsie talk about Will secretly spying on them by listening to the show at work. Kail talks about her current decision to stop filming Teen Mom 2 & the threats from Jenelle's mom on Instagram. They talk about vaccinating & how it it's so controversial. They talk about various shopping scams. Kail addresses the situation w/ Lauren on Teen Mom 2. They talk about bathing their kids, saving baby teeth & when it's acceptable to have sex after giving birth.

Hey, guys. Welcome to Coffee Cobbos. Hi, Lindsay. I'm a little congested, so I sound like Fran Dresser. Good morning. How are you? Are you alive and well? I'm alive. I'm not well. Okay. Well, neither am I. I'm unwell. Unwell. Definitely unwell. I got my coffee, my 50 ounce water right here. You're going to hear a lot of sniffling today. I'm just getting over being sick and congested and all that good stuff. But we have a ton of stuff to catch up on, so I am excited about that. I know. So what have you been doing? Well, so this past weekend we did Isaac's, it was Isaac's ninth birthday on Friday, and then Saturday I had his birthday party. So it's just like kind of everything happening at one time. And then Sunday we had basketball. So you know what? I have to say

about the birthday party thing. You know, I was really excited to have Isaac a birthday party because the last two years he didn't get like a party. We had like stuff, we like did something. And I invited like everyone that he wanted to invite, they got an invitation, and only maybe four or five people RSVP'd. And then everybody showed up, like pretty almost, almost everyone that we invited actually showed up. So I was like, well, shit, because I didn't even get a cake big enough for this. They don't RSVP anymore. Like, thank God I had cookies. Like I don't, I had cookies and the cake. People got like a sliver of cake. It's like one single spoonful. Right, because I was trying to make it all work. And then you know what is so freaking weird about this? So Isaac has

a little, I won't say names because I don't, I don't want to blow anyone's spot up. Isaac has a little friend in his class that we invited who came and, you know, Chris's family was there. And they were like, his, his aunt came up to me and was like, Kale, how do you know them? And I was like, I don't know the boys in the Isaac's class. And she was like, well, that's Chris's cousin. I was like, this world is way too freaking small, like way too small, way too small, too close for comfort. So we had it at this place called main event. And it was so freaking cool, Lindsay. Like, I think they have like a section, it's kind of like a big Dave and Buster's, but like way cleaner, nicer, just like way better. And then they have like a bowling area, a laser tag

area they have. And then they have this thing called the ropes, the gravity ropes. Have you, have you heard or seen anything like that? Yes. So they had that. And I was all like pumped up because I was like, I've jumped out of planes, I've swam with sharks, like I can for sure do this. So I convinced Isaac, and there's like a zip line at the ends that you have to like get up, that's how you get off. And I like didn't realize what it was. And it was like a whole obstacle course, like in the air. And I was terrified. And Isaac's like, Mom, what's wrong? And I'm like holding onto the pole for dear life. Yet you've jumped out of moving planes. And that's what people were like my friends, like my kids, how do I say this, my friends who came that have kids that

are friends with Isaac, they were like, what are you doing? Like, why are you freaking out? But I guess like, knowing that I would be responsible for my own death, essentially, like if I took a wrong step was like, it was like, I didn't trust myself. Like when you jump out of planes, like a tandem skydive, they are responsible for the parachute and stuff like that. And then, you know what I mean? So like, that's what I was about to say, like you trust somebody else more than you trust yourself, we've got to work on that. Yeah, for sure. Like I definitely need therapy. For sure. So what did you do this weekend? Actually, on the birthday party topic, we had received a message over the week about a good idea. And I wanted to share it with everyone.

Because I know tons of moms listen, and we're all trying to share ideas and just like be smarter. And work less harder or whatever it's called. Work smarter, not harder. Yes, that. So this lady said, listening to your podcast today talking about birthday parties, I come from a family with four children, we would have a birthday party on our even years. And then on our odd years, we would choose our favorite dinner and have friends over it seemed to work really well love the podcast. I love that idea love that that I do love that. So I thought, hmm, maybe, maybe we can, we can copy her. Honestly, though, because you know, birthday parties are super expensive. And I was telling my friend to like, you know, it's weird because when I when I take my kids to go do

something or go somewhere like for even just Skyzone, or, you know, we go on like a little like weekend trip, like we went to the indoor water park or whatever. My kids seem to talk about that longer and like they're wanting to go back so bad. But like my kids really don't. And I'm not calling them ungrateful or anything. I'm just saying like they don't really talk about their birthday parties. Like they don't care as much. And so it's like more like I'm doing all this work and they don't care as much as they would to go do something. And even having like a dinner at the house or something is sounds like nicer. I feel like agreed, agreed. I feel like birthday parties, it's almost like Christmas, you know, you plan for it for so long. And then

it's such a short period of time that it lasts and then it's over. Actually, we got stuck at Isaac's birthday party because there was a high speed chase outside and then they blocked off all the exits. So no, my friend Kathy and I like we drove together because our sons are friends. And it was like 45 minutes away. And so when the party was over, I'm not going to lie to you. Like I was ready to just like go home like I had been around people all Friday, all Saturday, like I was ready to go home and the kids had a movie night scheduled and I was just irritated because we ended up being there two hours longer than the party. The party was like 1230 to 330. And we ended up not leaving until 530 because of this high speed chase. And then there was a crash, all the things were,

all the exits were canceled. And I was just like, all the exits were canceled, all the exits were closed. So I was just ready to go. I was over it. Oh my gosh. Well, so this weekend was a very relaxing weekend for me. So it sounds a bit different than what you experienced. Actually, Will's parents picked Jackson up from school on Friday. And then of course had the holiday on Monday. So he didn't have school. So he stayed with Will's parents from Friday night until Monday morning, mid-afternoon. Oh, that was nice. It was nice. Do you ever feel like your kids need a break from like you and you need to break from your kids? Because I feel like a lot of people can relate. Oh yeah, my kids always need a break from me. They always they're like, oh my gosh, yeah. So I felt like it was getting that

time like we had not had a break since before Christmas. So I was like, okay, it's about that time that you go and hang with Bob on Papa for a little bit. So he did and we just had a relaxing weekend at home. Yeah, and went to dinner and went to see the mule. And I loved the movie and Will was like, it was just like, okay, like there wasn't a lot happening. I mean, I definitely wish that there was like a better outcome because like I told you when I saw it, it definitely had me wanting to become cocaine kill. So like I like I for sure contemplated that. And then like at the end when he goes, you know, I don't want to say it, but like I was like, fuck, like now I'm reconsidering my new revelation, you know, see, I, I don't know, I was just really into it. But I

think anything with Clint Eastwood in it and I'm a super fan of the elderly, you know, I have like a soft spot. So I think that's just why I like really loved it. But yeah, if you haven't seen it, I would suggest going to see it will would probably be like, don't waste your time. No, I liked it. I thought it was good. This might sound strange, but whenever I go to the grocery store, I find myself thinking of better things I could be doing with my time if I didn't have to be doing this. So like playing with my kids talking on the phone, maybe taking a nap. Can you tell that I don't like grocery shopping? Yes. So the truth is, I'm all about spending my time as wisely as possible and not wasting it on boring tasks. Thankfully, I discovered Instacart.

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with us. Why? Does he listen to our podcast? Probably. I'm like, what is wrong with you? That's the better question because what is wrong with you? Honestly though, I'm just giving Will. I'm your biggest fan. Biggest fan. I want to talk about the lottery because we got so many messages and there's two specifically that I want to read because obviously this happens way more times than not. Oh god, what? You said, oh god. So the first lady says, I was listening to today's episode about the guy who was charging for a lottery ticket and people didn't notice. Something very similar has happened to me at restaurant, so I wanted to make you aware. When you eat out at a restaurant, the charge typically doesn't close for a day or two

because they have to add in the tips. On three separate occasions at three separate restaurants, I've noticed my card getting charged more than what I tip the wait staff. Anywhere from $2 up to nine once. It doesn't seem like a lot, but most people don't follow up with their bank statements and don't notice. I just wanted to let you know to keep your receipts after eating out. I called the restaurants each time and they gave me back the money that the wait staff added on their own tips. Crazy people out there. Love you guys. Oh wow. That was the first one. I never keep my receipts. I actually tell them you keep the receipt because I hate having extra paper. Well, because now that everything's electronic, when I do my accounting

and stuff like that, I just go into my bank statement and I let my accountant know. I'm not going to save the physical receipts. But then I think about it and I'm like, maybe I should be because just like we were talking about at the cash register, I'm not going to notice if like one or two or $3 are added. Chances are. But I don't even know that I would notice like I'm not trying to sound any type of way, but I don't think that I would even notice something as big as $10. Well, yeah, because I feel like I just don't have time to be looking. And maybe I do have time and I need to make time. I have bookkeepers and they're not going to know. They're not going to, you know what I mean? Like I'm going to look at the receipt and I probably

wouldn't even remember what I spent two or three days ago at if I went to Applebee's. You know what I mean? Like I need to be on top of it because if that happened to one person in three different restaurants, who the hell knows how many times it has happened to me. Exactly. I'm going to start investigating my bank statements. That's it. Like I've had enough. Honestly, like I'm going to have to let my bookkeepers know. I just got a new accountant because I'm trying to, I really am trying to get my finances 100% in order and like work on that. That's like not really a, I wouldn't say like a New Year's goal, but like, like it's like a lifestyle goal that I need to do. So I'm definitely going to do my best. I mean, at least if I keep them, keep their receipts for like two or three

days and then I can throw them out instead of not taking it at all at all. Yeah, something. But then this next one, this person was slick Rick because Oh God, I cannot. Okay. I used to work at Target. It was my first job when I was 16. Anyone who shops at Target knows that if you buy certain products, you get a free gift card to use later. Nobody knows that. Everybody knows that kill. Nobody knows that. Well, this other cashier would ring up the guest items and get prompted to scan the free gift cards. So we keep those in our drawers. He decided to grab two gift cards, load the money on the top one and give the customer the bottom gift card and keep the one that had the money for himself. He was eventually caught because he would buy big items with multiple

$5 gift cards. It was obviously a little fishy. Love the podcast. It was the first one that I ever listened to. So first of all, thank you for listening and being a new listener. And secondly, the person that you worked with or work with, he is slick Rick and he needs help. Okay. I have a story like that. That's crazy though, because I've never gotten a $5 gift card. I have. And I shop at I have definitely like what kinds of things do I need to buy to get that? Well, it'll say like if you're shopping in Target, you know, those little tags that'll be like on the shelves, it'll be like those little hanging tags and it'll talk about the cards. Well, so sometimes they'll do it like on laundry detergent. If you buy like two Downey Unstoppable's or

something, then they're like $13 or $14 a piece. So you buy two and then they'll give you a $5 gift card to use. Also, there's this app for Walmart. If anyone shops at Walmart, it's called Savings Catcher. You just use it and scan your receipt at the end and they'll do like a scan in local stores. And if they find any of your items in a like cheaper and another store, you'll get the money back. Well, didn't know that. Yeah. So like you just scan your receipt and then they put it like you take it into the store, they put it on a gift card or whatever and then you can use it. So one time I saved up like two months worth of groceries and I kept scanning and scanning and scanning and I ended up having like $100 back. Wow. Yeah. But I have a story like that Target one.

I was told by a little birdie that so when you have a Best Buy card, like a rewards card, essentially like after you get like the gift cards or whatever, like all your points go on the card. Well, people like don't they forget or like they'll want to go add the points later. And an employee was adding all the purchases onto their point card and like went in and like bought big ticket items with the points, like a big TV. I think I was told that they bought like a camera and then eventually they got caught and got fired. But because people would go in to add their points later to onto their card and the points would already be taken from them basically. Like they would buy something big and their points would be taken. Why are people such freaking

life scammers? Honestly, like they're definitely crafty. I'll give them that because I have worked in retail for a long time and like I guess I never thought to do that. Like I wasn't going to scam people of their like points and their purchases and stuff. So they're definitely crafty. But I know that first of all, you just need to do your regular job. Like you're doing too much. Yeah. Yeah, for sure doing the most. You need to do less. I feel like the busier my schedule gets the more I appreciate my home and that's the truth. Being home makes me happy because it's filled with everything I love and making just how I like it so much easier now. Thanks to online furniture shopping and Joybird, the company behind it all.

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tired of talking about it and hearing about it and oh god it's about Chanel, isn't it? Likewise. But this person said, did you hear Barb threaten to kill Kale on their live? Will you all talk about this on this week's podcast? They looked like slobs. Love y'all. Love your podcast. Okay. Let's talk about it. Just because I know that I have said that I'm not filming and I just want to clear all of that side of it up. I'm going to be honest with y'all. I'm so fucking sick and tired of just like talking about them in a way that it affects me and in a way that it doesn't affect me. I'm just tired of their fucking names. I'm tired of Janelle's name. I'm tired of David's name and I don't really care about Barbara now. So I'm just tired of them in the media and I'm

tired of seeing myself in the media for it and I know it's like oh well then stop talking about her. But it's like I never talk about her when it's when I'm not talked about first. I'm always defending myself. So that's number one. I don't know what the fuck happened for Barbara to say let's get lit and go kill Kale. Like I don't know what I did to her and I don't, I've always gotten along with her. And she said that too when she released a statement to the media she said that the beef with Janelle is the beef with Janelle and she doesn't have any problems with you and that it was a joke and that she's known you for 10 years. So it was really a joke. So maybe she was just joking and it came out as not a joke because of the amount of guns that they have access to.

I don't know. It really comes down to principle for me. So I'm really just tired of, I'm hurt in a sense that I'm part of a franchise that's not protecting its castmates I guess. Like it's a slap on the wrist for their producer to call them and be like you have to issue a statement apologizing to Kale. Like I'm not looking for an apology that's not what I'm looking for. Like it's just a principle. If this was an everyday situation or if it was me threatening them it would be all hell would break loose. But because it's them and it's supposed to be a joke and they were drunk and it was not a big deal. Like I'm just supposed to not take it seriously and I'm not up in arms about it. I'm not freaking out. I'm not yelling.

I'm not crying. I'm not any of that. I just simply don't want to film if they're going to continue to do these behaviors that just completely go unnoticed. Like I'm afraid to go to a reunion where Janelle and David are there. And even if they're there in the same city on the same weekend but a different day, I'm not protected offset. Does that make sense? I'm not protected if I'm walking in the store or if I'm at my hotel. They don't send security with us. So that's number one. And now Barb wants to say let's go kill, kill. To be completely honest, I'm not, I do think that if they all sat down and had a drunken conversation, David would make it happen. To be completely honest. So I just, I don't want to mess with that. Like he's allowed,

he can go with her. He just can't be on set. Got it. And that's what I, so that's like what I mean is like if I'm walking the streets and you know, walking to dinner or something or I'm at my hotel minding my business, I don't know what could happen. And I just, I'm so sick and tired of everything getting sweeped under the rug. Like just everything. So to me, it's like, don't ask to film with me until you talk to my attorney. Like something's going to be done. And if not, then I walk away and I'm feel fine about it because I have other avenues of income. Correct. This is very correct. So that's that. Wish them the best. So anyhow, enough of that. Now that we have clarification, we're Gucci. I did want to talk

about something that a mom had sent us and we've received this message lots of times over and over again, just have never really touched on it in depth. And the question was wondering if you and Kale can talk about the well-known controversy of vaccines. I'm a mother of three and have always said I'd never be that mom, but recently have read so many horrifying stories about vaccines like the MMR, some absolutely devastating stories. I vaccinated my two older girls and never even thought twice about it, but now I'm paranoid to vaccinate my five month old baby boy. I would love to know both of your opinions. PS, I freaking love you both and always look forward to coffee convos. Awesome. I definitely think this is a controversial topic and I don't want to lose listeners because

of my opinions, but I did vaccinate Isaac because to me, I didn't know any better and I let them vaccinate him with whatever they basically said that he needed. And I feel like I was ignorant and didn't do research and didn't know any better. With Lincoln, I knew a little bit more and I started to research more and that's when I think the conversations of vaccines started to really be going on with me and my friends that became moms and just there were documentaries on Netflix and all kinds of just news that I would try to look into. Lincoln did not get all of his vaccines. I definitely picked and chose which ones I felt like were necessary and he did not get them all at once. So he did one or two vaccines at a time. And again, those were the ones that I felt

that he needed. Lux is 18 months and he is not vaccinated. He hasn't really ever been sick. And for me, I think the more research that I do and the more educated I've become, I just don't vaccinate him. So that's my opinion and I don't judge Lindsay if she chooses to vaccinate or anyone else who chooses to vaccinate. That's your prerogative, you're a parent, you know what's best for your child and I'm not here to judge. I think I talked about it on the podcast. He texted me asking how I felt about Lincoln getting a flu shot because I guess he told me that Lauren is like a big believer in vaccines. So, you know, I said whatever you guys choose to do with your son is fine, but my son's not getting the flu vaccine. Right. And I will

reiterate what you just said. What people choose to do with their kids is their business and what I choose to do with mine is what works for me. However, I don't want to convince anybody to vaccinate, not to vaccinate, not my place or position. However, we did vaccinate and we did it on an alternate schedule. So it wasn't on the schedule that is the recommended schedule. And I did do some research before vaccinating. And what I found was that there had been links from the MMR vaccine to autism. And that definitely scared me a lot because I think autism is more prevalent in boys. So that really, really scared me. And I was like, okay, I need to talk to the pediatrician about this because this could not be

good. You know, I need more information than what I've just found on the internet. I need like a professional opinion. And to be perfectly honest, my pediatrician and any of the other moms that I've talked to in regards to vaccine, all pediatricians are 100% pro-vaccine. So you're going to get that one medical side and you've got to consider too that it's a business. That's what I was just about to say. I didn't want to cut you off, but vaccines are a business. So that's the sad reality of it. But it just is. And so after talking to my pediatrician and telling him my concerns about the vaccines, I told him that I would like to split the MMR vaccine because that's what I had read all over the internet, that if you're going to vaccinate for

it to split up the vaccine. And supposedly, in some articles, it states that there is no link with autism and vaccines. I believe it's very possible that there is, and they're saying in some articles that it's because of the combined vaccines, like the combination of them. So I did it on an alternate schedule and then spaced them out very far and have had no issues. And I do do the flu shot. So personally, I can't take the flu shot because I get sick every time. Like I took the flu shot one year and I got the swine flu. And then the next year I took it, I got two types of flu. I got type A and type B. So I can't take the flu shot. Will takes it and Jackson takes it and knock on wood. They have not had any issues. So I really think that

it's good to educate yourself, read as much as you can, and don't take other people's opinions too seriously to your child because you know what's best for your kid. And that's just, I'm going to leave it at that. Honestly, though, just to piggyback off what you're saying too is like, I'm not saying be like me, but don't shove your opinions down your friends who have kids' throats. Like nobody wants to hear it. That's why I don't preach about non-vaccination, anti-vax. I just don't do it. And if people ask me about it, then I'll have a conversation, but I'm not just going to like go out there and like freak out about it and shove it down your throat. Like don't be that mom. If you and also if you don't want your kid around my kid because

he's not vaccinated, that's your prerogative too. I'm not here to, you know, I don't know, I don't know, start an RQ, a parenting argument about it. But yeah, like what Lindsay said, just do your research and come up with it. I mean, if you have questions, I mean, I'm not a doctor, Lindsay's not a doctor, but do your research and talk to your, my pediatrician has been so great. All three of my kids go to the same place and they do not push vaccines. They ask me, do I want to vaccinate? And they just, they don't push it at all, which was surprising to me because I have a friend who his child was, is not allowed to go to the practice anymore, not that practice, their, their pediatrician because he, his family chose not to vaccinate. So they won't see him

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fictitious person and also like posted things on her Facebook like for their anniversary and like crazy stuff that would make people believe that she actually was with this person that didn't even exist. And when Dr. Phil asked her, you know, like did she have basically a fetish for firefighters? She said no. That the reason that she made it up was because people would believe her because he could always like be on duty or whatever, you know, they call it for a firefighter. And so she would never really have to present him to people. So what was uncovered next? So she did this, wait, wait, wait. So she had been making up this person prior to the fires, like way before the fires? Yes, yes. Like in the event of? She had been,

Dr. Phil basically was alluding to the fact that she had a fantasy or fetish of being with a firefighter. And I think this was like maybe before this Shane person that she made up was before the fires. And then she made the GoFundMe account when the fires like happened. So I think the person already existed, but I'm not 100%. What the fuck? Sure on that. But what was uncovered next was like a complete web of lies. Not only did she create like the fantasy husband, but she also pretended other people's children were hers and even wore like a fake baby bump. And no, she didn't. Yes. And then three of the victims that she like made their kids be her kids or said that their kids were her kids. She they went on to Dr. Phil and faced her.

And what did she say? How did she react? She was, I mean, I personally feel like there's obviously like mental something going on clearly, right? Yeah. But obviously these mothers were livid as they should have been. And this woman also had baby showers. She lied about being pregnant like six or seven times. What? Did she like move around? Did she like move around? I don't know. Like, no, no, no, no, no. She told people when she would have, when she would have the baby, she told people that it would be like stillborn or that she had a late miscarriage or whatever. No, no, no, because these people that are coming to those showers can't be different people unless she's moving around. Maybe how do you keep up with that many lies?

Like, I'm not gonna lie. I've told a liar a few in my lifetime and I get caught because I tell myself because they're fucking hard to keep up with. Yeah, like lies. When you tell a lie, then you have to tell like another lie to cover that lie. So because you forget the lie, you can't forget the truth. Yeah, so she made fake baby bombs and wore them. And it even had like a belly button and like everything. So like when her shirts were tight, it would look like the belly button. And Dr. Phil called her out about her having a baby shower and she was like, yeah, that she did. And he said, well, what did you do with the stuff like that you got and you weren't even pregnant? And she said, well, I like re gifted it to other friends who had babies or was having a shower

or I donated it to whatever. It's like, you could tell this woman was lying about everything. I was about to say, I was about to say, you don't even know if that's the truth. Like, how are you even having a conversation with her? It's crazy. And I mean, she looked kind of deranged. You know, like, have you ever seen somebody that you're just like, okay, that person doesn't look well. But I wonder if that's like kind of like Munchausen syndrome, Munchausen by proxy. What is that? So you did, I never told you about what is the show? It's called Gypsy's Revenge. Have you seen that? No. So Munchausen by proxy is where in this specific show, the mother made her perfectly fine daughter

very, very, very, very sick and convinced the daughter that she had cancer and she couldn't walk. And so she was wheelchair bound, but really she could she could walk. And you just get a lot of attention for, you know, your daughter being sick, she got a new house, a new car, she got a trip to Disneyland, she got all kinds of help from the state, because she convinced these doctors that her daughter was sick and they would give her her teeth rotted out. She shaved her daughter's head because she would get attention for taking care of her sick daughter. She would get all kinds of like things and attention. So like maybe it's the same thing for her. Like, I don't know how that works. If you can have Munchausen by proxy and not do it in like a way where it's

like medical related. Well, I don't want to diagnose her, but that's what it sounds like. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Or if that's like, like, what is that? I don't- Because I mean, it would be medical related with the pregnancies. That is the strangest thing that I've ever, like, you created a whole like fake life and you have people believing that you're pregnant, you're not pregnant. And that's so sad to like, convince people you're pregnant and having miscarriages when you're in fact not. Or like, again, like, how do you keep up with lies? And nobody would want to probably be with you because they would find out very quickly what kind of time you're on. You know what I mean? Like they would, that's really

gets the frickin' help she needs. Same. Same. And I don't think going on Dr. Phil and having like a spotlight on her, I feel like she thrives off of that. It was probably not the best. Like, yeah. Right. You know what's crazy? And this is selfish what I'm about to say, but like when I hear stories like that, I'm like, I don't know how people will really sit there and call me a horrible mom in a train wreck because I'm like, there are people doing much, much worse, like much, much worse, like skimming firefighters and people who, you know, really are going through it because of those fires or, you know, trying to conceive or whatever. And here's this woman like creating fake lives, not even just like one fake life,

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have Cole because it's not like she's missing a father figure or anything like that. So I'm and Cole's so great that to like take Aubrey on as his own you know. Right. Yeah. I know. So that's horrible. That's so heartbreaking. When I saw you know them going to the center first off I just had a pit in my stomach because I knew that it was like going down the avenue of he wasn't going to show. And he gave up his rights to his other daughter. Wow. Her name's Paisley. I'm pretty sure Paisley. I'm pretty sure he signed off rights. I'm pretty sure I read that. Well it's so sad because I feel like kids that just have the dysfunction in their life like that. It's in Chelsea's situation it's really sad because she has such a functional

situation. Yeah. Currently and it's not fair to Aubrey to have that functional life and then to have it like in and out of her life the dysfunction like that's not fair. I almost feel like why would Adam sign off rights to Paisley and not to Aubrey. Like I did ask the moms with Taylor Paisley's mom and it was it almost like I think Paisley she said calls her husband dad and stuff like that so you know she can have some normalcy and an actual like like she doesn't have to think about Adam. Like I'm sure Taylor will explain it one day and they'll be able to look back on like teen mom videos and stuff like that but like she'll be able to explain it like why not why not do the same thing for Aubrey. Exactly because I mean

she's the one that's suffering and to just see her face I think she said like he's not going to be there or there's no dad or you know whatever it was that she said that was heartbreaking. Because I feel like having a parent that's in and out is worse than having a parent just not be there at all. Agreed because it's like you're just in it enough to screw you up. Right like you know I didn't have I didn't meet my dad I didn't meet my dad until I was almost 18 years old and to me I never had to wonder oh is my dad coming is my dad calling is my dad coming to pick me up like I never had to worry about that is he going to show up for this is he going to show up for that I didn't have that it was like my dad's not here so I don't know

what I'm missing and that's essentially his loss you know and then my mom was in and out and so it was is my mom coming is my mom going to be fucked up is my mom going to you know pick me up from my friend's house when she's supposed to like what you know what I mean and so like that to me the uncertainty was you know is kind of like Aubrey with her dad and I don't think that's fair so it's like at this point Adam sign off your fucking rights and let her have a normal like I mean not that it's not that her childhood is not normal I mean it's not with the cameras and Adam and stuff but like let her let Cole raise her he's already doing such a good job why not just let it you signed off one why not signed off Aubrey too well exactly and I

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know if people weren't listening or they just like it just kind of got swept under the rug but essentially Javi was talking to Brianna me and Lauren at the same time I went through Javi's phone and in a paragraph all she would talk about is Kale's a twat twat twat twat twat so I'm like annoyed and not to put out their business but like things had happened when they tried dating before and like he told me about it and so like then I already didn't like her it was kind of in a period where it was like nobody's going to screw like that's my ex-husband and I care for him in that way so you're not going to screw him over like I felt like kind of protective even though him and I didn't work out like I kind of felt protective over him and um so I was like already

having a bad first impression I guess um and then I didn't know that Javi wanted me to meet her at that time and he didn't really say that to me and so I kind of felt like they were kind of planning it behind my back but like he never introduced us not that I would have wanted to meet her anyway because I just like wasn't ready for it um but I mean there are things that have that have happened that I just feel like she's not permanent and I don't it's just a lot of stuff that I'm trying to keep off camera and I just don't want to stir the pot or anything like that and so I just let me update you because I don't know how much I talked about so two weeks ago I guess it was I talked to her at the at one of Lincoln's basketball games did I tell you that

no we have not so here she comes in my old car which is already like weird um but whatever um and Javi's not there Javi's not there and so I was like great this is gonna be uncomfortable because it's their week it's Javi's week with with Lincoln so I'm coming I don't think I had I don't know if I had the baby I think it would have was just me and so obviously Lauren and I were kind of forced to talk because Javi wasn't there and I didn't have the other kids or whatever and you know I was nice to her I didn't say anything and then she had messaged me on Instagram like the next day and was like you know I hope that this isn't overstepping like I'm sorry for what I said um etc etc great I didn't respond right away because I wanted to kind of get my thoughts

in order and like not respond in like a country way or anything because I mean I felt pretty good about it I really did um and then a bunch of Twitter trolls are messaging me on Twitter saying that Lauren is liking a bunch of comments about me on Instagram after the episode aired so I don't like that pick a side and fucking stay there if you want if you don't like me that's fine but don't apologize to me and then your online looking like liking comments that are negative like people so one of them was like Kale's three times your size um she'll always be miserable you keep your relationship flourishing or something like that and she liked it and then she responded another to somebody else like a paragraph oh I don't understand like that's not something that I

would hold a grudge about etc etc sending like hearts and stuff like that like cool Lauren then don't apologize to me don't send me a message on Instagram apologizing and you know saying that you're glad that we talked or whatever like don't do that because now your actions are not matching your words right and that's what I'm not okay with it so I told Javi like handle this or I will because I didn't want to say something that everyone would regret and now we're all in drama and stuff like that like that's something that we're not going to do like I'm not I don't take shit from anybody and I'm not about to start taking it from her so figure it out right and then it's just been not me and Javi are fine like we're getting along but I'm not going to be nice to you

now because I tried being nice to you and that's what you did so have a great day right yeah um I just obviously people are again seeing what has been produced so um I think it was over dramatized if that's a word um for the fact that y'all weren't talking at Lincoln's game and from what I saw just knowing you was I could tell by your body language that you were uncomfortable because you didn't really know what was going on and what was trying to be like pulled on you so right tell like don't set me up and the other thing too was like I'm not gonna lie it's very irritating I don't know if irritating is the right word that soccer game they didn't show Javi's entire family came his mom his dad his sister Lauren Lauren's best friend her husband like so

many people and then it was just me and I'm not like it's not pity me that's not what it is it's just very uncomfortable when it's nobody's in my corner so and maybe that's my own fault maybe that is self-inflicted it could be but it's very uncomfortable but they did cut it to make it look like I was mean mugging the shit out of them and if you know me and you're around me on a regular basis I'm blind as a bat like I am blind and I have resting bitch face so I was for sure not mean mugging anybody at all not purposely anyway but yeah no it's and then there was a scene yesterday on the episode where they're riding bikes Isaac and Lincoln are riding bikes and again the entire family is there it's Javi's parents and Javi's sister and her son and this person's best

friend and that person and this person it's like always there's always people around it's never just Javi and Lauren and then me or Javi and Lauren with Lincoln like it's never that way ever so I mean that it's a little intimidating and it's it's frustrating for me because it's like I don't know what conversations they're having I don't know what they're filming when I'm not there and I don't I didn't know that they were planning to have me meet Lauren at the game have you never talked to me about that so it's just little things like that that's really frustrating and you're the type of person that okay it could look one way on camera but knowing you personally um and uncomfortable situations you're gonna pull back like you're not gonna try to like create controversy so I felt like

it was more of you being uncomfortable is what I saw yeah for sure and I mean not for nothing like V and I took a while to get to where we were at but I think it was more like these are my kids that they're coming into um so it's more like don't pressure me to meet anybody until I feel like I'm ready they're my kids you know what I mean like I'm and just like Lauren said I don't know if it was yesterday's episode or the one before that she was like you know I very quickly was allowing Isaac to be around Lauren like it's not it's not that I don't trust her or in that way like around my kids I just I don't like when people or say one thing and do another on and off camera like I'm just not um can we talk about how I found the most amazing brand of flats that are

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there's something that happened on twitter that I need to address I feel like so all this child support stuff is about to play out on teen mom and on twitter I accidentally somebody said something about child support and I accidentally said that I don't get child support from joe and hobby and I meant to say I don't get child support from hobby but I don't know what like half of my brain was like custody oh I have 50 50 with hobby and joe and then I it it was a mistake I didn't mean to tweet it I said that I didn't get child support from joe and I have gotten child support from joe and joe sent the screenshots to these trolls right of him making his payments and I got frustrated because I'm like well so I'm paying him back the child support since we've had 50 50 because I don't need

it and then on top of that I'm taking on the response the full responsibility of health insurance and all of his school lunches all of his sports etc so like I kind of felt annoyed by that but the twitter trolls are lighting me up for it like I just it was a mistake I wasn't thinking when I was tweeting like I didn't reread it and so like half of my brain was like oh respond to the child support thing and half my brain was like reading it as if I had 50 50 custody with joe and hobby so anyway that was I'm just clarifying that well you miss read stuff all the time or like I who you are miss read yeah yeah so because I'll text you and then you'll be like oh wait yeah no I didn't mean anything by I wasn't trying to lie or anything like that like I definitely

have gotten child support from joe but definitely paying it back so I don't really know why he even felt the nerve felt the need rather I mean I guess he probably was getting lit up by trolls too so um I get it joe and I are fine we work things out V and I are still fine um so that's that I'm just not filming until further notice so moving on um so there was um some stuff that happened in the news I know people are probably sick of hearing us talk about this um they're not but no um um john bonnet and I address this on my instagram story about my feelings about it because I literally got hundreds of messages about the john bonnet killer confession and um the supposed pedophile that Kim best said that he never loved anyone like he did john bonnet yet he let her slip

and her head bashed in half and he watched her die okay so I just want to tell you guys I'm not a part of this case and I'm not even trying to act like I am but from what I've read this guy has been fully um investigated throughout the process of investigations and has been cleared that he was not the person that did it and I am going to stick to um the brother did it and that's truly how I feel I feel like this guy is just trying to get attention I think that he fully knows that he didn't do it and knows that they couldn't prove that he did it and that's why he made erroneous statements like this um but yeah that's that's how I feel about it I definitely don't think he did it for sure I don't know if I believe the brother did it I definitely think

the brother the mom and the dad all know what happened in that home and they all covered for each other I still don't know who fucking did it and it drives me crazy because something tells me that it was more the mother and the brother and the dad knew and just helped them cover it up but anywho I don't think that that crazy guy did it I don't I think the brother did it with a flashlight and um I think they panicked and I think the mom was like if we don't cover this up then we're going to lose both of our kids I think that was the more of the situation but that's just my opinion could be true could not be true I wasn't there so I'm going to carry on now to something else um this was something that was really interesting to me and things that like you just don't think about

but you do think about um this woman sent us a message and asked about when are you supposed to stop bathing boys um she said I know girls are different but I don't trust my son to get his pits and bits um kill when did you stop bathing and start trusting Lindsay I've heard you say before that your son takes a shower in the morning so does he just shower on his own sometimes I don't want to hold my son back and be bathing him when he's eight or something love the podcast um I actually really love this is a good topic yeah this is definitely a good question because honestly I don't know if it's just me I don't trust my kids I don't trust them um Isaac's nine and when he's taken a long time in the shower I will literally yell into the bathroom like make sure you get your armpits

and your butt like wash your ass like I want to make sure that it's just one of those things where it's like and then like I this really bugs me for kids uh people in general I do not like when people rub the bar of soap on their body you're not cleaning the dirt off if you don't use a luffa or a washcloth and he's like what my dad's I just rub the soap on my body and I'm like well we're not at your dad's you're gonna use a washcloth over here and then when you get out of the shower you're gonna put deodorant on like that's just how it is so um sometimes I'll ask him if you need to help washing his hair still both of the boys Isaac and Lincoln Lincoln I think was babied a lot more than Isaac was and so it's taken a lot longer for Lincoln again Lincoln's

like well I can just rub the soap on my body no get a freaking washcloth and wash your ass like wash it so um to this day I'm like please like I'm reminding them I think Lincoln started showering like legit showering when he was four I don't think before that because I just like I said I don't trust them in the shower like I just they need to wash their parts and their what did she call it bits and tits it's in pits and I love that oh bits and pits yeah for sure so yes I have talked about bathing Jackson on the podcast before and it honestly depends um when he turned four is when I kind of stopped their frequent baths and he was kind of going between baths and shower it was like the introduction of the shower and um when I started I would bathe him and do everything

and then let him just kind of you know once I did it I would tell him like okay well you know rub the loofah like on your body and this is how you do it and so I kind of like showed him and then he would just kind of be in the shower by himself thinking that he was free ranging and then I would get him out and then not until this summer did I start making him wash himself like his hair and his body and I still check and make sure he gets like all the soap out and make sure that he's actually washed his body I can tell like if the loofah has soap on it obviously he's washed if it doesn't then clearly he hasn't he's not right but probably about twice a week I'll go in there and wash his hair really good condition it and wash his body or watch him wash his body and so

that's still kind of like the phase that we're in now it's he's washing himself washing his hair I don't have to show him as much anymore because he's kind of like getting it I started letting him brush his teeth um I still brush it once a day so he does like in the mornings and then at night I'll brush his teeth and then I still put lotion on him because he's fair skin and he gets dry so I do but he tries to do it on his own and it's like maybe one leg gets covered and then the rest of the body is just ashy dry um but it's funny to kind of like see the bathroom and the state it's in when he does it all by himself versus when I do it because the bathroom's exactly the way it should look whenever I do it and when Jackson does it looks

like a cyclone came through the bathroom so yeah uh-huh um yeah but yeah I don't really know if there's like a specific age I would say like at four is kind of when you should start introducing them to the shower and introducing them to okay your body gets washed and your hair gets washed and I'm not going to do this for the rest of your life so you need to wash out your butt crack together you need to wash off your bits Lincoln will call me in the bathroom mom is just soap out of my hair and I'm like well thank god you washed it so let me look and sometimes he'll forget to like turn his head and like get it out of the side of his ears and his face and um the face washing is hard because it's like Lincoln Isaac's like at that age where he needs

to use like a face wash like not just oh wow water you know what I mean yeah we haven't got to that yet so I'm like you have to wash your face and like that's the thing is like you you don't just put water on your face like you need to wash it so it's uh definitely a learning curve but um um I can't believe like I've really taught two boys to shower already like I need to maybe have a sit-down conversation with their dads though because they need to be using the a washcloth or a luffa damn it yeah exactly like why are they just using a straight up bar of soap like between their ass crack no that's not a thing oh my gosh oh and then this was this was another fun question what do you guys do with your kids teeth once they lose them recently at my parents

house they showed me and my sister all of our baby teeth that we had lost as kids my sister was completely disgusted and to me this was sentimental but not something that I would ever want to be gifted or given back to me and made me question what to do with my own children keep them for me forever or keep them and give them back to my kids or just throw them away I'm torn okay so this is something that I've definitely thought about because I definitely kept mine as a kid like my mom let me keep them um as an adult I don't give one single fuck about my baby teeth so if my mom was to hand me my teeth today I would throw them in the trash because I don't give one single fuck so to me and I'm I I don't judge if you care about that and it's sentimental to you

like I'm not judging for me so for my kids if they want to keep them that's fine but I have not been keeping them because I just I don't care about them and I mean I care about my kids I don't care about the teeth and I don't think that they care either like I think if the parent makes it a big deal and wants to keep them then the kids are going to be like oh my gosh I have to keep them you know what I mean see Jackson I feel like that would be something that he would want to see like later down the road oh see that's cool then you keep them yeah I mean I wanted to be a dentist my whole life so like I kept them but then I don't know what happened to them right well so there's like imagine like having a jar of teeth sitting at the house yeah there's these little things like

jars or whatever that you can get to like store your teeth but I'm just kind of confused like where would I put that and if somebody came into my house and robbed me like and they saw that what would they think they'd run for the fucking hills um I have in my downstairs I have um three like big Tupperware containers labeled with their names Isaac Lincoln Luxe and I put all like if there's something I don't keep all their paintings and drawings but if there's something that's like really cute or important to them I put it in their pictures um that I you know I go through and put new pictures up so I put like the old ones of them if I was to keep their teeth or if they wanted to keep their teeth I'd probably put them in a bag or something and then put them in their

memory box and then when they take that with them you know when they move out or whatever they have their teeth if they want them I just think it's um I'm not interested like are you going to make a necklace out of those or well um I don't know like do you drill holes in them and make a choker like I'm not sure right um yeah if somebody broke into my house and saw a container of baby teeth they would probably be terrified and that's probably what they would rob you right they would not rob you they wouldn't has Jackson lost any teeth yet no not okay well you're gonna have to update us and let us know if you do decide to keep them or if he does it wanting if he wants to keep them because I would be curious to know if you keep them well I will let you guys know

when we get to that point and I'm hoping that it's still like a while away um but in other news I did want to talk about some crazy Florida news that I saw and um yeah I was just kind of like wow it's Florida again um it's always Florida a zookeeper was killed this morning in an alligator enclosure of the Naples zoo while he was attempting to sexually assault a 12 foot long reptile sexually assault the alligator yes not like he got killed trying to feed it or take care of it he got he got killed trying to how do you how does one sexually assault a freaking alligator well I'm gonna tell you what is wrong with you no 24 year old Jimmy Olson was engaged in full sexual intercourse with one of the younger reptiles when he was surprised by one of the larger animals

which attacked from behind the young man was caught by the throat by the alligator who dragged him underwater and drowned him Jimmy Olson's death took place around six a.m. this morning but his disappearance was noticed only an hour later by other employees they discovered his dismembered body floating in the pool of the alligator enclosure around 8 30 a.m. the images captured by the security camera show that mr. Olson had clearly placed himself in a very vulnerable position he had his pants around his knees and was lying down on top of one of the animals with his back to the others the poor guy didn't stand a chance we can see him being dragged into the water and then he disappeared from sight he was probably dead within 30 seconds of the attack

I'm speechless like I don't have words and it shows like the picture of this guy like with the animal and yeah so what is wrong with people I literally have no words so I don't even have a comment on that because I literally just don't like I don't have words so so many people messaged us this article because obviously it was of great interest to a lot of you who were listening so I investigated and obviously got my magnifying glass out and got on the internet and when I type in this headline no first of all let me back track I looked at this picture and I was like this person looks like Steve Irwin in this picture like this is not this person that works at the zoo so type it in and start

searching there's literally like five articles that come up which goes ahead and tells me probably not true because if it's something this crazy that happened it would have been all over the internet um it was a hoax it was a hoax correct um that it was investigated and it was just basically bull it was it was fake news yeah it was fake news um that basically the picture was a Scottish man who works at a crocodile park in Spain named Gavin Hart and that the image that was posted on the article was in fact a crocodile not an alligator um so the story was completely fake so now what is wrong with people that you're basically fantasizing about this because otherwise you don't come up with a story like that correct I'm just like okay

who does this who makes up a story like that first of all secondly the fact that so many people believed it probably because it came from Florida and we all know that everything that goes on in Florida is really weird so obviously this would be like a believable Florida thing scenario right yeah but sexual intercourse with an alligator or a crocodile like this person would have had to have been on one um moving on I do want to ask you a question that we got on the podcast Instagram um this question is for Lindsay I was listening to another podcast and was wondering if you listen to other podcasts if so how do you feel about discussing family matters on air um she says it personally would offend me that my family was airing out dirty laundry into in

regards to relationships with my siblings especially if you were not there to to clarify your opinion and defend yourself love the podcast you and killer both are inspiring um you guys are definitions of mom boss wow thanks um yes actually there were many messages that I received over the weekend and um about things that were said about me on another podcast and um I will keep things brief there's always two sides to a story and then there's the truth with facts that can be proven um I appreciate the prayers and also sarcasm um sometimes God closes doors because it's time to move forward and he knows that you won't move unless circumstances force you to so I am thankful for the transition and my current life and we are going to move on to another topic about

when it's appropriate to start having sex after having a baby oh I mean I love what you said but that topic sounds very interesting and I can't wait to tell my stories um so there was a mom and I feel like this is so um common and I feel like people just don't know um what is appropriate I know that um a lot of times after you have a baby you don't want to be touched and then I've heard people also say that their sex drive is heightened so I've heard a lot of different things me too so I thought in the beginning I thought the six weeks thing because you know they say no no sexual intercourse for six weeks after the baby I thought that was because like your vagina is healing and like it's probably kind of big um so I thought that's why and so I definitely use that

as an excuse to not be touched both with eyes after Isaac and after Lincoln because I did not want to be touched I did not want to have sex and I was quite frankly very turned off just by Joe and Javi at the time like I just like don't touch me don't come like I just did not want to be around them um I definitely thought that that was what it was for like it has to heal and stuff but no it's yeah it may need some healing um but it's mainly for because you're so fertile oh wow in those six weeks that's what I was told by my doctor um yeah some healing but you you're the most fertile at that time like your uterus is already ready and prepped and the vitamins and all of that stuff that's why like irish twins the twins that are born in the same year like that's a big thing

and um yeah so so this woman says that I'm a first time brand new mama to a beautiful baby boy he'll be eight weeks old soon my fiance and I have been together for over six years and this has been a huge blessing for us but I have a question for you guys saying that you both have had babies I've real I've really never been a huge sexual person and while we were pregnant I didn't do it often because I was so miserable I've been on antidepressants most of my 20s and I think it's made my libido low I haven't had a real urge to have sex yet but after nine months with no surprise my fiance is dying and I'm nervous I don't don't get me wrong we've done other things but haven't had legit sex how long did it take you guys um to wait after birth and did it change how it felt

or was it painful for the first few times um so obviously you answered um but how long did it take you to get back in a saddle um I think after after Lincoln was born I don't know if Bobby and I ever had sex because I was just like that was not I think that was more like relationship shit than it was like after having a baby um so that was like a long time and I made a lot of excuses and um same thing for Joe and I it was like 10 ish weeks maybe more because I just like didn't I wasn't interested anymore like I just didn't even um I'm not gonna lie to you guys I definitely had sex with Chris like fairly shortly after I had looks like two weeks whoa like I don't even know if it was that long so um it really just depends on the person and I think

yeah it definitely hurt like it for sure hurt because you're like you just had a baby come out but I she just said that she's what eight weeks postpartum yes I mean I would think that it might be a little sore even but it shouldn't be like painful I think definitely see a doctor if it's like painful well um as far as I was concerned I'm a very big stickler on like whatever my physician says is what I'm gonna do um so I was right at the actually the day after I had my six week checkup um so I got cleared and everything was good and I felt like I had plenty of time to heal and was feeling semi-backed to like my old self and yeah so it was like six weeks in a day I guess um that we had sex so I don't know I think it just depends for every person it didn't hurt

for me um because I feel like I gave my body the time that it needed to fully heal like at two weeks I would have not been ready like I did not want to be touched but it wasn't because I didn't like love him or want to be with him it wasn't any reasons like that it was just I felt like my body had been through a lot in the past nine months and then to give birth and all of that that I just needed the time to heal make sure you do your kegels too like that's so important yeah I always think of Chloe Kardashian whenever um we talk about kegels or anytime I hear people doing kegel exercises because I think one time she was like on something and she was like I'm doing kegels right now oh I am too like right now like same so same because I just feel like

they're yeah you don't know how important they are until you have a child like don't let those vaginal walls slip you know I'm serious I cannot so I wanted to kind of update everybody on um what we have coming up Kale and I are going to LA in February um just what like two weeks away yeah yeah two weeks away um and we are going to have five guests um we're not gonna release the names but they are guests that you guys have requested over and over so I think that you'll be really excited um to hear what we have going on but it will be my first time being away from Jackson for that many days so I'm having like all of the feelings already like my mother-in-law is coming to stay and I have everything already planned in typical me fashion but I am nervous I

feel like I have all of the emotions like I I want to go and it's going to be so good for the podcast and it's going to be so good for so many things but then it's almost like mom guilt innocence which I shouldn't have um because obviously like I need to go and we need to do it but um I don't know I always just feel guilty for just doing normal stuff yeah I think that's you know common I think a lot of moms feel it I feel it sometimes too I'm I'll actually be in Dallas before LA because I planned my sister's baby shower and it's I am giving up two days of mine that I have with the kids because of it and so like I was like am I should I really have done this like should I have like I could I have planned it better where it wasn't going to be on one of

my days but in order to make it work for my sister I was like well I have to give up two of my days which you know they give up their days sometimes like we switch and stuff so I get it I get where you're coming from it's just like you know being away is is hard and then you have to give up like the the rains essentially for like the control thing and knowing how exactly how the day is going to go and um being kind of we're gonna be completely on a different coast but the good thing is we have face time they can call um and it is for work it's not like you're leaving him to go party you know what I mean I just think it's because I feel like I enjoy so much what we do that sometimes even though it's work I don't view it it doesn't feel like it yeah I feel the same

way that's where the mom guilt sinks in because it's like when you're doing something that you actually love doing it doesn't feel like feel like that dreaded work trip right I agree I definitely agree like it's like our work is so fun like we get to go yeah we're gonna be podcasting and interviewing and doing stuff that is related to business but it's like it doesn't feel like it so it almost feels like we're going on a girls trip exactly exactly so we're excited and um can't wait to share with you guys who you're gonna get to listen to hopefully very soon so I think that's all we have time for today um if you guys have not done it yet go to coffee combos podcast.com we have a ton of hoodies left um and would love to ship them out to you guys so coffee combos

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