Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 68: Teen Mom OG's Amber Portwood, Marriage Bootcamp, & Jenelle Feud

Episode Date: February 28, 2019

Kail & Lindsie chat w/ Teen Mom OG's Amber Portwood about her new man, her book tour, & how she got back in the media game after prison. Amber updates us on baby James & future baby plans, her relationship with Matt, & Marriage Bootcamp. They talk about co-parenting & Amber opens up about postpartum depression. They talk about Bristol & Cheyenne joining the cast, Amber going off on Jenelle & why her main concern is safety. They talk about showing the struggle & why it's been so hard over time.

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos, I'm so excited today because we have a very important guest today. Very. Oh my gosh. One of my favorite people, Amber Hortwood. You know, I just got chills. I'm so happy to have you. You got it from you.

Oh, whatever. You look so good. No, you look good. Okay. Like right when I walk in, it's like, boom, your boobs got me. And then I was trying to give you a hug, but I don't think that was between mine and yours. I don't think that was possible, y'all couldn't even touch because it was so big.

Right. But it's okay because we got this. Yeah. Yeah. Can we talk about our initial reaction to your boyfriend? He's literally two feet taller than you. He's like a tree. He's so, yeah.

You have to climb him. I do. I said, how does that work? Do you climb him? Yes. Obviously. Yeah. Because I have a baby.

So he's six, seven, and I'm five, two. So that's like more than two feet. People really don't know how short I am. When they meet me in public, they're like, you're a lot shorter than I thought. See, I get the opposite. Yeah, but I'm feisty. We know. We know.

The smaller, like what are you trying to say? The more feisty you are, the feistier you're right. Feistier. Yeah. I don't know if that's quite true though, because Cal, she's tall as hell. I've always thought that she is, I was talking about her at the hotel and I'm like, one thing about Cal that I like is like her attitude, but yet she knows when to step back. You know what I mean?

Like she's able. See, I don't really have that. I was talking up, I was talking up so much, girl. I love you. I mean, when we went on the book tour together, I think that's when like I really started connecting with you and I like, I just, I really started loving you, I think. So we hadn't met before the book tour and that's very similar to Lindsay and I's story. So how did y'all get paired up for the book tour?

Y'all both wrote books at the same time. Similar times, but we had the same publisher. Yeah. Mine actually at the time I felt like I shouldn't have went yet because it just came out and I hadn't done any kind of social media. I had just gotten out of jail. Like it was a really hard time of life. And Cal knows this because she was there, you know, we talked about this and like, it

made me sad. But the thing is, is like being with her, like she is so upbeat that I felt comfortable but uncomfortable. You know what I mean? Yeah. So was this like right when you kind of got back into filming Teen Mom? Yeah. So we, what just started filming Teen Mom a G actually, we just started because they were

following us like through a little bit of it. How long had you been out of prison before we did the book tour? Not long, a couple months. Um, before we did the book tour, I'd say, now it was about a year. Oh, you had been out for a year? A little less than a year. Okay. So that's still pretty new.

But for me, like it was still, yeah, for me it was like, it was still pretty new. Yeah. Like I felt like uncomfortable like out in the world and like to be like, you saw it. Yeah. Yeah. It was so uncomfortable. Like honestly. Even just meeting you, I kind of felt like maybe you were just like unsure.

Well, I think. But we then we hit it off like by the end of the trip. It was amazing. And that's kind of how I met Lindsay. So it was like social anxiety. Oh, I have social anxiety. So I made the sense. Yeah.

I didn't know Lindsay before I signed on to do the podcast. Like we had only talked over like texts and stuff. And so we were like just hoping that it would work. So it was the same thing with Amber. Yeah, it worked out. We celebrated our one year anniversary. She's my work wife. And work wife.

Yeah. It's wonderful. I've never heard of that before. It's cute. Yeah. So tell us about like where, what's going on now? Like you have your new boyfriend and the baby, how old is the baby? Baby James.

He's nine months as of yesterday. Oh wow. Oh my God. So he's almost one. Yeah. He's so cute. He's super tall. I was about to say.

Like long. Yeah. Yeah. He's long. And he wants to walk before he crawls, but now he's just going. Oh my gosh. I mean, I think he wants to walk though before he crawls. So do you guys want more kids?

I mean, honestly, it's not about wanting, but if it happened, like I don't think neither of us would be bothered by it at all. Like if I was in like a certain other situation that I used to be in, like no. We want to know what happened with Matt. So Matt on marriage, so we went to marriage bootcamp, but that's a common, that's a common trend. Everyone that we've podcasted with this entire California trip has talked about marriage bootcamp.

Well, they had asked me to be on for three fricking times. Yeah. So you're like, okay, fine. I was like, here we go. This is, this is going to be a shit show. Yeah. And he said that. But the thing is, like went on there.

I knew me and Matt had broken up already, like on my birthday on May 14th and he literally kind of was together slash he wouldn't leave. So I think I've been there. So trapped. Yeah. So I think once we went to marriage bootcamp and he got like that's, you know, that boost of money. He was like, all right, peace.

And he left. And it was okay because I already broke up with him like on the show. So you emotionally, you were fine. Yeah. Okay. I was already done with that. And the thing is, is like, I didn't even know that there's this tall ass man behind the scenes.

It's like digging me. So he was working for the show. Yeah. What? He was working for the show behind the scenes. Yeah. And so two weeks after we wrapped and people don't believe me on this, but they, they tried so hard.

We tried so hard to find footage of us together. They didn't find nothing. And you know how the house is. Oh, I know how that goes. Okay. Yeah. Everything. Wow.

Cameras everywhere. And because we did not meet at all. And so two weeks after I left, all of a sudden I get this message from this guy and it's the sweetest message. Like, oh, I've been out there with my dad before because he did movies, like Madison, that, that stuff like that. And I was like, that's, you know, it's really cool. Like, just so you're in the industry, which made me feel so much better.

Right. Because it's not like it's some random that's trying to get you because you're on. Exactly. Just flying into the DM. Right. Exactly. And I had already had a few already trying to do that because you know, when she gets single on this show, it's like, they're like, we, I mean, literally I was having like,

there was some A-listers flashing money and I'm not going to say their names, but I thought it was kind of corny and ignorant and they, and you know who you are. I think he does too, because I sent her the, the messages. Yeah. And I just thought it was really corny. And then when I saw him, he was just this like little Malibu baby, just kind of like, Malibu baby, Malibu giant, you know, and he had a good background. And you know, you went to UCLA for film and writing and things like that.

And I just, I really connected with him a lot more, especially when it came to like our sense of humor. So did you already go home at this point? You were already back home. I was already home, John. So then when was the next time you would have seen him? So we met literally a month and a half after he had sent me that message. And the thing is with Matt, it took six months to meet him because you know, like I feel

like when somebody's in the industry, like they understand a little bit better and I'm more comfortable with meeting them because hopefully they're not psychotic. Right. Right. Yeah. So there are some psychotic. There are some, yeah. Of course.

And I know. So it's like, so it was awesome to actually finally meet somebody that I could connect with and understand because of the people that we've been working with for 10 years. Like it really made me feel good. Yeah. Like honestly. So I just, I was comfortable and he came out and like, we hit it off. And within day two, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put him on blast.

He told me, like, felt like he was, he loved me. I'm like, whoa, yeah, it took me, it took me about two months and he'll admit it. He doesn't like it when I do this, but, but you know, that was only because I was so scared because of my past relationship. Right. Well, as you should have been, because I feel like Matt put you through the ringer. Do you know what I'm obsessed with lately? It's his company called Brandless.

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Is that true? No, I did. Girl, yes. That's true. Because nobody signs up for that. I found out when we were together, I think it was a year in. I found out about, I think it was like five or six, and then I think Gary, though, when it was presented to me like all these other kids, I was like, I was in denial, right?

And because I think I wanted that family for Leah, though, I just really wanted that family for Leah. And so I guess I was just in denial. And then I found out about the rest of them and I was like, whoa, this is intense. But that still wasn't a deal breaker for you. You know, me, girl, for some odd reason, I have so much faith in people. And I just go, go, and go until it breaks. And I really shouldn't do that.

It's not healthy at all. I know that now, but back then, I feel like there was just the wool was over my eyes. It almost takes you to be in a healthy something for you to realize that what you were doing was unhealthy. Exactly. I think being with him really showed me, the person I'm with now, it makes me respect them and really love them, appreciate them so much more. So I mean, it's been great, like, since we've been together, honestly.

Since you did just bring up Gary, how is co-parenting with him now with Leah? Gary? Oh, I mean, it's gone really good. I mean, obviously, I want more time. You know, I want more this, this, and this as a mother. Of course, that's always, yeah. But I think when you go through certain things in life, you have a certain past, it doesn't define you necessarily, but it does hinder what you're trying to do when I'm still as

being a mom. Yeah. I mean, the trust is broken, in a sense, and especially with Gary, because of the past. I think he still thinks of me as that person. Like he's a little apprehensive to move forward in. In a sense. I can feel it, but then I see him actually moving forward, though. And then with Christina, we are good.

We've moved forward with everything, and that's making it easier for me. Yeah. But I still don't feel like I see Leah enough. I still don't feel like... How often do you guys... I was about to ask. I don't really barely see her at all. She's getting older.

Like the last time I saw her, she said, oh, I'm about to be a preteen. She's 10 years old. Oh, my gosh. She's already saying this, and I'm like, I swear to lord, no, don't do this to me already. So do you guys have a set custody order, or no? We do. Okay. But does that matter?

No. I mean, some people follow him. Some people don't. Exactly. Yeah. No, I get it. And the thing is, I am, because it's 50-50, and so it just works, and we also live five minutes apart.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, some people just didn't have the faith in me, and I get it in a sense, but I feel like as of now, like a lot of people say, well, why don't you go back? Why don't you go back for full custody? Well, because she's 10 years old. Right. Like she's already been doing this.

She's lived pretty much the majority of her life with him. She's established a family. Yeah. And her sister, everybody that's over there, and like over, you know, I don't, it's just, you don't want to just, you want to change everything and uppers them. Xenia's changing schools, changing friends. Oh, so you guys don't live in the same town? No.

We're close though. We're 25 to 30 minutes apart. I'm within five to 10 minutes from Javi and Joe. So it does, you know what I mean? And I feel like at around 10 to 13, they'll start kind of like, I want to go to mom's house or I want to go to dad's house, and they can kind of choose and like tell you, you don't have to stick to it. You know what I mean?

I can't wait to get like, because she, I just talked to her before I left, and like, the way they're like, we talk is just, oh my God, like, honestly, I don't think people get to really see our actual, like how we, like, react, like the way we are, interact together. And it's like, she's like me, in a sense, and she's starting to get like a little bit of an attitude. Yeah. This age, I swear.

She's so smart though, straight A student, I mean, she was just in the spelling bee for her class. Oh my God. It was, I watched it live. It was amazing. She was so nervous. Was she so pumped when you were having a baby? She was super excited, and she said she wanted a boy.

And she got one. Yeah. That's what I had. It was meant to be. Yeah. And every time that like she sees him though, it's like, she just wants to hold him or like, grab him and just play with him. Like, you know, I feel like like right now, she's going through a transition to where she

wants to be older. You know, we went through that. We all went through that. We went through that. Now I'm about to be 27, and I'm like, I wish I was like 19 again. Yeah. I'm like 19 and 28. I want to be, I want to be like 23 again.

I think, I think that'd be a good idea. Yeah. This week's fun. Yeah. That was a good one. So do you feel like Leah ever feels like since you have had the baby that she would want to live with you since you have a child now? Because you didn't before?

I don't think she thinks like that. I think, I think Leah, no. I don't think that factors into that. Like, no. I don't think, that's just the easiest answer. I don't think it factors in like that. I don't think she thinks of it like that. I just think she thinks of it, this is my little brother, this is my little brother,

and that's about where it ends. I mean, she's 10. Yeah. You know, you can't make things too complicated in a 10-year-old's brain, honestly. Like, she has so much stuff going on with school and everything, like she just got into the art club. Oh, that's awesome. Like, you know, so, I mean, it's, and she does volleyball, like all that stuff.

So I don't really think she factors in those kind of things. Yeah. She's young. I think it was on Twitter that it was like a little clip of y'all teaching her how to shave. I think it was, she went, what's her stepmom's name, Christina? Christina, yeah. I don't know.

I just feel like that would be so hard to like, do that with somebody else. You know what I mean? Well, I actually asked Christina. You did? Yeah. Because I, here's the thing, and I even said this to Christina, I was like, I'm so thankful for you being over there when, like I really am. And I told her, and I said, I would appreciate, I would, I would like for you to be a part

of this because you should be. And you know, cause she's done so much when I was going through really, really bad times in my life. And so I wanted her to be a part of it and it went great. Like there was, I guess, you know, you just got to grow, you got to be more mature in a sense. Like you said, it's, you can't just hold grudges for the rest of your life because this is a child.

Right. You need to make sure that the child is completely aware, okay, you know, cause she is very aware of what's going on. Oh yeah. And she's very intuitive as well with feelings and what's going on. So. All right guys, sometimes I find myself daydreaming about all the things that I could be doing if I didn't have to go to the grocery store all the time, like playing with Jackson, getting

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And so I'm kind of with you on. And that's his. That's his wife. They're married. Okay. And so I'm you know. They have a daughter together. You know I don't watch my own show but that's not because of anything it's just I don't

like watching myself and I don't want to watch y'all on there because I want to know what's going on. In real life. Yeah. No but where I was going with it was just that. And you've already lived it so you don't want to relive it. V and Christina are kind of in that same situation and so I have thanked her you know if it wasn't for her where would Joe and I be?

Like we'd be even arguing it wouldn't be good for Isaac so they're kind of like almost like the mediator and unfortunately to give them that title but like that's what it is and it works and you know I thanked her and I was like honestly this is you're like our saving grace because I think Joe and I would still be going at it if it wasn't for her and it may be the same for you and Gary if it wasn't for Christina. I think that's true. I mean I did get a little argument with Gary the other day because I it was an argument over not seeing Lee enough.

Yeah. And and I just felt like when I talked to Christina it's more just calm. She's a mother so she's able to give me more information sometimes and because she she you know does a lot. I'm not saying Gary like doesn't do anything I'm just saying like she has that mom instinct right. Always wanting to do everything in a sense yeah and like I feel like that kind of gets taken away from me like because I want to do that too sometimes but now that I have

Bubs not that he's replacing anything she just refers to us Bubs James like not that he's like replacing anything but I get to actually experience being a full-time mom even though like I went through the postpartum and by the way I'm good now we're going to get back to that but yeah okay well there you go. We can talk about it more though. Even though like all that happened like I feel like I mean everything just kind of subsided in a sense yeah everything really calmed down. What did that look like for you after you had James you went through the postpartum what

I feel like I've never felt that way in my life. What were you feeling so it was four months after and I was like okay I got this everything you know and you know obviously Andrew helps as well and all of a sudden one day it was like literally a click like like a light switch in my head like I don't want to do anything at all like I'm scared because like the thoughts that come to your your mind like it's really scary there would be times where and this is just any woman that has like postpartum depression or anything like that like there you get these thoughts that you just don't know where they come from things that you would never think of in your life or even

dream of right because like not you and yeah just not you at all and you get disgusted with yourself in a sense as well for even because you think it's you right so once I realized it really wasn't and now that I'm over that thank God like it was pretty intense I mean so how did you get through it did you go see a doctor or what did you yeah I worked with a psychiatrist I had a good support team around me my family you know obviously Andrew and it helps that you're in a stable relationship right if I wasn't in a stable relationship I don't know what would have happened oh lord I mean I don't I don't think like I was ever gonna act on anything but I think that I was really just sad and depressed that I would

even think about it right possibly like so there was one time like he was crying and I like was staring at him just like blank-minded or blank-minded just staring at him and did not know what because with Leah this never happened right I took care of her like two years pretty much by myself because Gary was working 18 hours right 18 hour shifts and this was the first time he's ever happened and I just was like babe can you can you take care of him right now and I didn't want to say anything you know what I mean like you're kind of like ashamed but you don't really know what's going on yeah it was like straight late nothing there like I felt like I was sitting there for like maybe an hour it was the weirdest

thing and like I know mothers with postpartum can relate to that yeah that's why I'm sharing that no it's like I usually wouldn't share that I don't think that people really talk about that's what I was gonna say they talk about postpartum but I don't feel like they talk about like the ins and outs and like what you're feeling and what you what happens and so and I think that it's I don't think that the fathers are you know future fathers ever really it doesn't cross your mind postpartum doesn't cross your mind when you're trying to get pregnant or right after you have a baby it just is not something that you think about until it happens and then you're dealing with not only this like new human but now

you're dealing with all the things that you would have never thought of I guess right do you feel like you got so overwhelmed in the first four months that I wasn't even I literally I wasn't even overwhelmed like I know that it would seem that way but I felt good because I was able to take care of my baby right I felt like an actual mother and oh my god sorry it's okay we cry all the time yeah no she called me a crybaby the other day you know what it's good it's healthy it's healthy but it's like I don't know it was just a really intense time but thank god it didn't last as long as people what people were saying yeah and I just really worked very hard with my psychiatrist and getting

on the right meds to make sure that I was going to be okay like okay and like the number one thing is when I think Caitlyn came over and for her to like oh my god I'm gonna cry again Jesus it's okay when Caitlyn came over and was like sharing things with me like she had already shared some stuff beforehand anyway did she experience postpartum depression as well okay yeah and she was telling me things like exactly what I was feeling and it made me feel better as a mother that I wasn't the only one you weren't alone and for some odd reason even though like so many people can share these stories with me maybe on social media for someone like Caitlyn because you knew her someone's close to you yeah I mean

it is and she was actually able to talk to me and tell me that what I was thinking though was it you weren't alone she went through it too I think you know I think all of us can can be on the same page here when I say that you know a lot of people reach out with messages and similar stories and stuff but there really is nothing like hearing a similar situation or hearing it from someone you are close with because they're right there and you already know them you don't know of course not you feel you feel more comforted and like safe because you know okay this isn't just me yeah and she came in a really hard day really hard time when she when she came to see me she literally oh my god I was just so surprised I don't know

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okay we knew of what the public was saying so we were scared honestly and then with Cheyenne it was the same thing because they were writing their bull crap articles bullshit articles and they were like putting all this like crazy stuff in there yeah but I caught we went out okay so all of the team on moji girls after the reunion went out to eat and all that and hang out to get to know each other right off camera yeah so I sat next to Cheyenne and Bristol you were right in the middle and then I I had some questions for Cheyenne from some things I had read and I don't I'm not really gonna bring it up because I think it's bull crap to bring it up yeah um and she just told me what happened this that and the other and I respected her for it and I was like okay I got you okay good

I got a feeling for her I got a really really good feeling for her and then Bristol she's just so calm really she was really calm and like I guess I could that's what I would picture if I were to meet her but she wasn't like it wasn't like she was like you know like like stepping back or anything you're not trying to show her true colors like she really is just a calm person in a sense like she just wanted to hang out get to know us and talk yeah so it was pretty cool I feel like she's so like you're so forthcoming with who you are as a person that I can see like why you would want to get more information on somebody else like are you hiding something right like we need to know I try to do it in a very nice way though I'd like to say that yeah I

don't just go hey you say that yeah you know I like to talk like you know as human beings yeah unless you disrespect me obviously yeah which speaking of disrespect uh you know I have to bring it up you know I'm gonna talk about it I said this at the hotel I was like I don't know if she's gonna bring it up or not but I'm pretty sure um what happened with Janelle she said tell us everything yeah because I caught the live I don't know if it had already been posted like you had already gone live all I heard was you brought my name up and you were defending me and I was like fuck yeah that's my girl like you already know but what happened like how did that I don't even know how so I'm going through my okay so where it started as I'm going through

my stuff I see all this stuff you're saying about you and this that like burning your shit and I'm like who is this like sit by the way where's my stuff I sent it to your address I got your address and mailed it to you when girl everyone got theirs at the same time I didn't get nothing we were wondering why you didn't post about it yeah it was like I'm not gonna ask Amber to post about it but I was wondering okay well I asked Kristen when she comes back because I remember when I asked you for your address remember when I asked you right now and ask her what has happened are you gonna set it on fire yes that's the real question when you use it as target practice probably no I'm just kidding no I'm gonna use it okay good absolutely I love it

like girl I'm gonna support anything that I said to you I wonder if it was a old address I'll show you the address no yeah don't do that okay so you saw that she was doing all that crazy she was doing a lot of stuff and then she tried to like add in my name with it how where because I went after her I couldn't understand in my mind how certain things were transpired yeah I couldn't understand that and me going through everything that I went through I never put Leah in any positions not knowing if she's doing that or not it just really hit something yeah um so I felt you know it seemed like all the team moms had already said something in the franchise really in a sense but I felt like you know I don't really need to say something but this just showed up on

my my through my Twitter feed and I got it now I can't I can't ignore it right I can't ignore a 911 phone call if if if something is going through and it says 911 phone call from team mom to Sergeant L Evans I'm gonna listen to that because I actually care right like it wasn't like I wasn't like trying to really attack her I just I reached out to her I reached out to her I tweeted about it I texted Larry like making sure she was okay right no response and then she lit my shit on fire so it's like I actually despite all of the drama like I actually care if something was to happen to her the kids so like absolutely I might not like you but I'm gonna care if something happens and so nothing nothing ever came and I don't understand because obviously with us starting

the podcast we've started a lot of shit um but y'all can tell me what you've started apparently we never stopped talking about I'm blocked yeah I don't even know I'm blocked and I don't even know I'm blocked and he's still talking about me he put he did a face swap who what hold up so I didn't like I didn't respond to like their last like bullshit like trying to get me to respond to yeah that's all they want and all of a sudden like I think a fan sent me something on Twitter where he was doing like a face swap of like my piece on his and he was like trying to talk like me like I think you call me a coke or something oh wow like I don't know what he was saying oh wow I was like dude if I was a little better than that that's not really yeah that was that was intense and

like everybody was like oh he's crazy he's this and like I think they just want attention yeah no I think David is actually crazy and I think when he does certain things he can get pretty crazy yeah and I just think like you know maybe if he changed like you know maybe drinking habits or something he could probably calm down a little bit just a little bit that would be good well so you heard the 911 phone call about the collar bone snap oh my god was that the what the collar bone snap is that what she said mm-hmm I think so she did she said I think my collar bone snapped I mean I literally had tears in my eyes I'm not gonna lie I didn't listen I can't stand what's going on right now but I'm not gonna lie like I had tears in my eyes that's scary

and then let you try to deny it and then like I saw some other pictures of Kaiser yeah I did not understand that as well and I freaked out honestly so we know how important your oral health is and we want to help you take care of it the best way that we can think of and that's with quip with a quip electric toothbrush sticking to good habits is simple the guiding features are like built-in support system for better brushing the truth is people tend to brush too hard and some electric toothbrushes are really abrasive but quip electric toothbrushes have sensitive sonic vibrations for an effective clean that's gentle on your sensitive gums there's also a built-in two-minute timer that pulses every 30 seconds to remind you when to switch sides and

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like I went back about 10 years honestly and sometimes that happens I think I really did yeah so I deleted it literally like not even a minute after yeah it was too late it was too late they already had it people were on they're saying oh we already have it like I know you do like I don't I don't care yeah I was like you know but I did care in a sense because I don't want people to think like that's me today right like but sometimes like it's hard not to go back to those roots when when people are saying some pretty stupid ignorant discussing things yeah no and sometimes it takes you doing the stupid thing for you to have this health awareness to be like oh wow I probably should have handled it differently that's exactly what happened I literally like right afterwards

was like damn maybe I should have texted her you know what and I you know I could have I think every time I talk listen like the last message I sent to her though before she blocked me was so sweet and I just all I said to her is I really just wished that she would get out of the situation yeah and she blocked me I was so freaking sweet to her on that message because she responded she did respond but I did not know because you know we get so many messages on Instagram you know what you mean I did not know that she had sent me a message until like there's people telling me that she said she sent me a message oh I guess she was telling people that like I wasn't responding because I was scared I don't know what was going on it was immature and ignorant to be honest and I

I so I responded to her finally it was four days later and it's very nice I mean honestly I just wanted her to be okay yeah yeah you know that's it that was really it and then she blocked me it's so weird because like Janelle and I would say were the closest in the beginning of Teen Mom 2 really yeah because it was kind of like there was four of us as you know and it was more like Chelsea and Leah had already known each they already knew each other and so then me and Janelle kind of like were we did our thing and so um it's weird to think about how things were then I mean even with a lot of the girls like me and Brianna never really had issues until you know the last two years and then hey how much you guys fight which was weird because we remember and I said that on one of my

Instagram lives like we remember when everyone on your on og didn't get along with Farrah yeah and then we all got along so like we couldn't understand it but now thing though with Farrah y'all were all the girls trying to get along were a unit right but and they were also trying with Farrah we were so but for us it was different like I was actually friends with Farrah when they were at a time oh wow for quite some time and we we had we had things that we were gonna do together actually that was in the works she kind of screwed that up honestly she doesn't know it but I do I do yeah she screwed it up she could have that's all I gotta say about yeah yeah but um you know when she started just talking crap and just kept going and going and going I was like okay you

want the attention here you go yeah yeah like and then I was done with it honestly right I mean excuse me are you good are you good are you all I ain't got no coffee I don't need none coffee um no um what I was just gonna say was that it's it's a weird because looking at the dynamic how we all started to how we are now it's like we were a unit like Lindsay said and now we're not like it's sad man we should have just merged teen mom half of teen mom two with half of teen mom oh gee that's what I was pushing for I think what we were saying was one person in particular and that's all I gotta say I know right okay bougie and girl we wanted some Cal yeah I would have went on og and that was a bit like and this was before we knew anything about Cheyenne

or Bristol like we didn't know anything about them really they were like oh so she's fired so oh can you take can you take Cal from team mama or team up to put on og then yeah we was like we was all about it was like yeah but like you know they went a different route because that's what they do I feel like I don't know I just feel like you should still just hop on come on over come on everybody would add more people to this show no because then we wouldn't be able to tell the story we have five minutes that's what I'm saying we wouldn't be able to tell like the full story yeah yeah you know they're cramping a lot of things but I kind of like that because I don't need I don't need the full story I agree I just don't I don't feel like today at the age of 28

that everybody needs to know everything but that's what we talked about yeah yeah and I feel like you know I will always be truthful on team mama G I will always tell it how it is and whatever is needed and be honest but you know there's just some things that are kind of off limits I'm not talking about like beating your man or anything like that I'm talking about like you know just just some really like as we get older there's more things that are private yeah we kind of talked about this too before like some things are just meant to stay in the home obviously like we do have these crazy lives and we have enough that we put out there so there's certain things that we should probably just not have on tv or in the media or anything like that so I mean and the thing

is is we always just want to show our authentic selves yeah and when things get edited to just like five minutes it's like damn like because you know for a show you always want to have what's going to give the best ratings in a sense for the network and things like that that's their job is our job is to make sure that we perform as well because we are performers in a in a sense not only in we're not in a sense we are performers but we were saying we like on reality tv and especially like a docu series yeah you kind of have a job of being yourself yeah like we get paid to be ourselves but honestly if I can and this is true and this I don't care what anybody says I really don't don't reality television on you know how about this how about the team the team mom franchise in

general should have Emmys we should have we should be recognized more for what we have done I think that the focus on the negativity is ridiculous I think there should be a little bit more focus on the good things that we have done um and that's just how I feel about it like honestly um I think like if we want to do if we want to turn a leaf on this show like and really like show other things I think we are able but you know what's crazy I think we're open to it now I've had brands I think so turning down specifically because I'm on team mom yes and that sucks because if nothing else this is a job and I've had this job for 10 fucking years exactly so what the fuck my work history is good like honestly I've been on the same you know okay well your show is no she's talking about us

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but but I feel like when when we all got back when I got out and we all got back together like it was like it was like magic man let's pick it up yeah and the fans were still there yeah which was amazing you know how many shows and this is true in this industry there's not many shows after three years two to three years of being off the air yeah that the fans stick with you to where you're getting certain ratings and that's just the truth but as much as y'all hate it the reason that y'all have that is because they do show like the hard stuff exactly and people can relate to the struggle more than they relate to the happy yep that's true it's unfortunate it makes more of an impact I think sometimes but I also feel like I mean they do show I mean a good it's hard but what I'm saying is like

for even for example when I wrote Pride over pity which we went on the tour together yeah Pride over pity became a New York Times bestseller and my next book following that didn't but the next it was an e-book best that's still that's still a bestseller yeah um my following book hustle and heart was what I learned and all the good things and the happiness that I was feeling and it did not sell at all really it did not do well so people relate to the struggle and that's what team team mom shows the struggles but here they are like oh no you glimmerized everything really because no no I mean they think that money changes everything and I feel like a lot of celebrities say that though that it doesn't matter no matter how much money you have it doesn't change

how you feel inside or what's going on in your life right some who cheats on you and you're a millionaire they still fucking cheated on you I mean what do you mean like you're still depressed I mean come on yeah depression is you could be a billionaire and be depressed like right like come on yeah like so that's just how I feel I look at people everybody in this room right now as an equal I don't care who's what done what went to where you know we're all human beings like that's that's just how I look at people honestly like you know I believe in the universe and what it does and where it moves us so we're all connected that's yeah wait what's your sign Amber huh I'm a tourist will oh yeah it's probably why I like her so much so what are you working on now like

what is your life look like in the coming months and like what you're doing okay don't get tell us okay so it's gonna be a little vague though because I have to be I'm sorry I wish I could just be like boom you know you mean yeah so here actually while we're here in LA we're gonna be here in extra few days after MTV leaves because we have about six meetings actually scripted and unscripted shows as well as um screenplay like we have for babe because he's a writer yeah um so we're she does the pet names yeah oh yeah well she calls we don't oh I love it yeah I always call but I don't care but it's so funny because you refer to her as boo boo it's never like Leah or it's never like James sometimes to say Leah and I look at him like that's weird that's weird yeah makes me feel

weird because I still call my brother Bubby yeah that's yeah she's just a pet name person yeah that's so funny am I a pet name person yeah damn no that's that's so funny because we all know who you're referring to yeah they're good then that's good right it's like they're they're like secondary yeah but should have been there yeah like Leah she just named you boo boo I'm sorry honestly it should probably be like I would hate you for the game it should have been her government I love it so you guys are doing the meetings and then he's a writer yeah well that's awesome he's a damn good writer that's so wait are you living you guys are back in Indiana then are you guys living kind of both um so we we stayed here for a month okay because he was supposed to

do he's supposed to produce a show with his friend okay but they weren't ready they were still getting I think they're at like a I'm not going to say too much they're like a million at the time they were trying to get more money to produce the show to make the show um because they really wanted to do it right but the thing is is we came out for the time that we were told to come out and babe had like studios with his friend set up so that was kind of a bust but what we ended up doing is we ended up just having a really good time and having like Leah and Gary and Christina and Emily and all come out and that my brother came out like oh my god just like just family like had a good time you know so he's living full time with you like in

Indiana now he's yeah okay now and it was literally I was six months pregnant I think when or four months pregnant I think when it was a hundred percent thanks he was gonna live with me um and that's scary well the thing now because we for what he does for a living like he kind of was like trying to he had to like venture out of what he was doing in LA in a sense he had to like so he's worked in he actually has worked in Indiana on projects he did a really neat one I guess I can't say what it is though where he filmed he did because he does cinematography that's his brain um and uh so he has done that but I feel like you know now since he's in Indiana like it's more he just really wants to do writing that's his passion I think with the cinematography it's

because of his family like his dad was a cinematographer his grandfather was one back in the black and white days is like I mean it's been you know and so I feel like he felt like maybe like he had to kind of go that route but um I'm just I'm really proud of he's doing what he wants to do and he's happy with what he does and he's guys he's really I'm not just saying this because I love him like we're getting these meetings because of his amazingly he's a very smart man I'm very proud I am a proud to be with somebody like him to be honest with you like so are there plans to get married girl he's been saying stuff behind my back to the cameras when we had it we had a we had a excuse to the camera we had a um a cookout one time I'm in I'm in the living room

holding James he's little and I'm here and I'm though okay like it's right there um the patio and like he's talking about I have a list of places already written down that he wants to get married that he wants to get married yeah so would you say yes I said to James I was like we had a James go what daddy talking about I think she would say yes she would say yes I think oh god yeah I would say yes to him in a heartbeat because of the things that he has shown me so far being together yeah um usually after six months or so people change he hasn't in a sense like he's changed a bit because he's getting comfortable but not in a mean way and not in an like an unhealthy way he's actually changed in a way where he's trying to just like better everything oh how was he as a dad oh my god

he wants to do everything himself oh well that's nice yeah because you don't hear about dads wanting to do that are you kidding me yeah that's awesome and he named James after his dad okay you know sweet yeah so yeah you just were like yeah you can name him yeah absolutely were you hesitant to have him come on the show he was hesitant to come on the show be honest he didn't really he doesn't like to be in front of the camera right his job is behind the camera yeah he didn't like to be in front of the camera he um yeah so what was that transition like did he there there's still no transition it's just nervous and like kind of like because babe like tells it how how it is babe tells you oh we're all gonna be calling him babe like how it is and and sometimes he gets in

that that point and i'm like okay yeah tone it down stop talking about reality tv before i flip out on tinder's right here oh my god i'll be talking crap about my stuff yeah i love it but he doesn't really he doesn't talk crap he's just kind of like i don't know i don't know he's i'm just happy like today thank god you look like you see it when i yeah they just look happy and healthy yeah yeah we're so glad that you're in a good place and everything i should have came in here crying no wait wait well that's what i always say like when people ask me like oh like who are you friends with from the show and i'm like you guys don't get to see the amber that i see like i love amber she's so funny you just even before you came in i'm like lindsay she's hilarious like yeah what's

amber like in real life yeah i'm like you need to hang out like off camera because that's when we have the most fun yeah our book tour was a shit show in the funnest way possible that may or may not have instigated a couple of things but it was fun it was a good time on your tour well becky came my friend becky and um she's oh my god she's a riot i love becky we need to have her on the podcast um but she made me eat with her oh did she remember that shit well kid rock was on a tour or his crew or something was weren't they yes this shut up i'm not gonna tell that story i'll tell you i'm gonna tell you the story afterwards um but they were at the same hotel we went down to the lobby and we had drinks and did all that and it was a blast it was fun oh my gosh maybe

y'all should both write another book i was seeing this fuck at the time you were a singleized fuck go on a tour together we should write another book just to go on the tour yeah just to do round two with amber oh my god yeah no it's so much fun oh my gosh you call me out y'all anyway no it was fun it was listen i did i did say to the person that was driving can we go and do that we're on a real bus like our faces were plastered on the side of us i know we're sleeping on this thing um no we went to hotels but like it had like a full like round about a bed yeah like we were chilling i was in the back like chilling the whole time i was nervous like i said earlier i was so nervous i was like literally had headphones on like listening to like

sitting in collar like getting more depressed obviously and like trying to like because what you know like trying to get my shit together yeah like oh man it was it was intense but i feel like with kill she was like listen she did say this to me because i i wasn't i had to get used to being back on television and things like that she said social media let's do this put your kit pick up your book because at me i just i don't know what it is like i feel weird about some things she's like come on i really pick up your when we were take pictures i'm like show your book show like you got a self promotion you know all of that stuff like we're gonna make you comfortable and even if i even if i knew about that stuff at the time of my life i just wasn't ready but she was

able to be there and like give me just the encouragement to do it with her and i thought that was all because i could have did it by myself but i'm like no i gotta like help amber out you know she's suggesting to like don't cry don't do it don't do it breathe she's suggested there's a kill if it wasn't if it wasn't for like the people that were on that bus like i wouldn't have made it what your cousin's name crystal crystal oh my gosh you are just so really close with her oh good i loved her she was so funny that's oh my gosh she's she's she's a regular on the show right yeah um and then becky so it was her cousin and becky and then us two and then the tour bus driver and how long was this tour like a week was it a week four days two weeks i don't know

it was remember you're asking me we went to like we don't remember we went to like 12 or 15 cities in like a really 12 or 15 cities yeah you didn't do that in a week yeah we did because we drove they drove we drove the whole time and stayed at yeah and stayed in the city like yeah oh my gosh we do a couple and some days we do a couple yeah yeah yeah like in one we went to like couple yeah kentucky and then we went to like another city in kentucky and then we got to tennessee we went to like nashville and like yeah wherever else i'm not really tired oh yeah and we didn't have hair and makeup so it was like yeah no it was just like crazy whatever we wore was crazy i think i was like frickin almost 200 pounds at the time i just gotten out beefed up looking

crazy like oh my girl because i was breastfeeding yeah so it was a shit show for sure oh my gosh that was a blast i wish this was filmed and listen if that shit was filmed that's a show itself yeah okay yeah we should write a book and go on tour together yeah but yeah do that it should call be called lindsay knows best so much shade i called you girl and i was like let's do this yeah let's do this amber's been calling me at least once a week for the past month i love it it's like my favorite oh my god i'm so no i love it i'm like i feel like you care why don't you i know we want to be i know because of everything yeah you know because of life and yeah new baby yeah but um i'm so happy that i came today and i missed i really missed you

guys you too so i'm so glad you have so highly of you anytime oh yeah same every time i'm like don't talk about my girl it's not even bull like honestly it's it's real i tell them the real stuff i tell them you're hard i said like i said this morning i said she's hard but i think that's why i like her yeah is because she i said something of that nature like because i don't know but i'm in this podcast and our duo she's the mean one really why and i'm the people who i don't know just mean no it's just business yeah yeah not i guess mean isn't a good word but like um what's a good word for it i'm just um i'm just more aggressive when it comes to business asking questions like i know what i want and if you're not doing that that i'm gonna tell you that oh

got you and i'm just like anything goes anything goes and like kale just sit back and she knows what she wants but she's probably not gonna say like i'll make sure everyone else is good first you can blame teen mom for that i'm just kidding we went to mom for everything yeah you know but you know what we still love it we still love what we do and we need like the fans know that though yeah even though all these articles come out yeah the fans know that yeah what we're doing absolutely well thank you so much for coming on we really appreciate it all right guys well i think that's all we have time for today if you have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast um on instagram you can do that and then if you have not subscribed to us on itunes you can do that by

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