69: Ashley Siren From Young & Pregnant, Tabloids, & Stripping
00:00Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos, Lindsay, how are you today?I'm good.I'm sitting by you, so I'm happy.Life is perfect.Yeah.We know.Oh, thank God.Today we have a really cool guest that actually I have never met in person, but we are on
00:20the same franchise.So we're welcoming Ashley from Young and Pregnant to the show today.Hey.Hey.You know, I'm so glad that we finally got to meet in person because I follow you onInstagram and I just feel like I know everyone in the franchise even though I don't.Yes, I feel like I know you.I feel like I know all your business at least.
00:40Yeah, exactly.Uh-huh.I'm like, is that jacket from Fashion Nova because I know we both have deals with them.Yes.Oh my gosh.Lindsay, where we feel really bad that you don't have a Fashion Nova deal.I don't want a Fashion Nova deal.Okay.
00:54Well, that's unfortunate.And you tell us, did you watch Teen Mom or any of the other shows before getting caston this show?Yes.You did?I watched, I've been watching Teen Mom since like before Macy had her baby.Same.See, I was already pregnant when I watched Teen Mom.
01:14Yes.But you were not a teen when you had your daughter, right?I think I had my daughter at 20.Okay.I was pregnant at 19 though.Okay.Got it.Got it.
01:26Sure.So can you tell us a little bit about young and pregnant, how they approached you to beon the show, or did you like sign up to do it, or how did that whole process go?Yeah.So I found out I was pregnant and I was like, hmm, I just was on the computer.I remember how I saw it, but I just saw that they were casting.Same.And I was like, let me just send some like two sentence paragraph.
01:50And it was like typos, there was no like punctuation, nothing, nothing capitalized, nothing capitalized.That's why they hired you.Yes.I'm sure it was.I'm sure it was.And then they called me while I was at dinner.And I was like, who is this keep calling me from New York?I don't have your money.
02:08I'm not going to pay you.I'm not going to answer.And then I called again and I was like, let me just see, because no one's ever calledme from New York.And when I answered it, it was like, hi, this is so-and-so.And I was like, were you still in disbelief?Yeah.Because when they called me the first time, I was still like, no way.
02:23I was like, how much do you want for me to sign up?Because you know how some modeling companies are like, yeah, it's just $800 to sign up.And then we'll book you on all these modeling gigs.How much do you want to sign up?And you're like, oh no, we're serious.And I'm like, oh, OK.OK, put your money where your mouth is then.Did you kind of already know what to expect based on what you watched?
02:43It's completely different, huh?It's completely different.Yeah, people do not understand.And even Lindsay was on, I don't know if you know, Lindsay was on a show on USA.She was on Chris Lee Knows Best.But there is an even more intense than Teen Mom, because they have like eight camera peoplewhere we only have two or three.Yes.
03:02Yeah, so it's a completely different style production.Because with MTV and Y'all's franchise and your show, it's like a docuseries.So they're kind of following you and then just getting like the real, real.Right, yeah.Kind of.Right.You know what I mean?So it's a completely different type of production, and I've told Kale so many times I couldn't
03:23imagine being you guys.That's crazy.So I wanted to, I wanted to ask you how your life has changed since you've been on TeenMom.I think the biggest thing is just like people know who I am.And I feel like when I signed up, I didn't think about the fact that like people aregoing to know me.Yeah.
03:42I don't, I didn't either actually.It didn't touch my mind until I was out and people started noticing me.Right.And really I'm like an introverted kind of person.Yeah.I'm always like, hi, do you really want to talk to me?Yeah.Do you really want a picture?
03:56Yeah.I had to get used to like someone's looking at me and I'm like, what are they lookingat?Yeah.They're probably know who I am.That aspect never crossed my mind.Yeah.Like even thinking back.
04:07But when you started it though, it wasn't like Instagram and stuff was around.Oh yeah.The social media thing like blows it a lot of proportion.Exactly.Instagram probably two years after the show, after I had Isaac.I didn't even know what Instagram was when I started Chris Lee knows best.Yeah.And so, but I think when, even when I was right now, I'm thinking about when the
04:28original teen mom aired, I never thought, oh wow, like they're going to get recognizedin public or like, oh, what is their life going to look like after this?Like that never crossed my mind.And then I got into it and I was like, wow, this is so weird.You can't do anything without it making a headline.Yep.It's like something that's going to happen in a curse because it's like, if you dosomething really good, that's amazing.
04:47Obviously you would want it to come out, but then you say one wrong thing at a contextor they take something out of context and you're like, oh shit.And I never realized how stupid people are.People are so stupid.We talk about that every day in our life.They don't, I find myself like at the beginning, I found myself explaining the dumbest thingsand like, do you guys, this is not common sense.Right.
05:10Like was I raised somewhere different where common sense is just not, this is not common.There.Yeah, no.So I do have a question.So since you watched Teen Mom, you watched OG, Teen Mom 2.Is there any more shows apart of the franchise?There was.16 and Pregnant, I guess.
05:26Teen Mom 3.Teen Mom 3, which didn't last.I've never seen that.Have you met any of the other girls besides the one on your show?I've met some of the OGs from reunions or whatever.So with Young and Pregnant being a first season show, did you have any reservations on goingon the show and it failing?Not really.
05:50Because I didn't think about any of that.Like I didn't.You could meet anyway if it fails.It didn't.It didn't cost.I didn't know that.But I wouldn't want to be a part of it.Yes, girl.
05:59I wouldn't want to be a part of a show that I knew wasn't going to get like a second season.Yeah.I didn't want to be a part of a flop.But I think the biggest concern for me was like there's already like a set cast of TeenMoms.Like people don't want new Teen Moms.People act like they do, but then when they get new Teen Moms, they're like, we're notused to these girls.
06:15So my whole thing was like, are we going to be received well because OG and 2 is alreadyso popular.People have connection with those girls.And did you get any backlash like that?Kind of.It was like, oh, you think...From any of us?No, no, no.
06:29Not from any of...We'll get into that.Not really.It was more so like the fans kind of being like, you girls are trying to replace theOGs, respect the OGs.And it was like, no one's trying to replace them.It's just, we're just a younger generation.I never felt that.
06:49Like I didn't feel any type of like ill, I didn't have ill feelings towards it.The one thing that I've always, that has always bothered me in this franchise is that theydon't give anybody a heads up.Hey, we're doing the show or hey, the trailer's coming out tonight.I've seen clips on Twitter before they tell me that my trailer comes out or whatever.And that's the thing that it's more of like a respect us, we're the one that brings inthe money for them.And so it's kind of like annoying.
07:17But they had me on TRL with Jade and we hit it off.Once we got there, it was initially a little weird, she had an attitude and I was like,oh my God, this is not going to be good.And then by the end of the night, we were cool.It was awesome.So I was like, oh, if all the girls are like this, then we're gonna, it's gonna be great.Yeah, we're all, I think our cast is, well, you know, time will tell.But as of right now, everyone's pretty cool.
07:42Like there's no drama.I feel like there's, like we don't, we're not really like friends in real life.You know what I'm saying?Like they all live so far.I live in the Bay Area.Like I don't live next to anyone.So I see them like twice a year.So there's really no need for drama.
07:55Yeah.I had that on my list of questions.Our cast is not like that and it's, hopefully it won't change for you guys.I hope not.I think with your cast though, everything has kind of been competitive with social mediabeing after the fact of you guys starting the show and then people developing followersat different rates and stuff like that.I just feel like y'all are way more competitive.
08:23We're like more personally intertwined, I feel like.Yeah.Yeah.Very personally intertwined and because y'all created friendships, you know, that like fellapart.Yeah.Whereas you're kind of going into it with a mindset of, okay.It's more of a co-worker thing as opposed to like a friend thing.
08:38Right.Like I love all of them.You know what I'm saying?Of course.I care for all of them.Yeah.It sucks to see some, so that they go through and I do reach out, but like I wouldn't sithere and say like, oh, we're all really good friends, you know, like on a day to day
08:49I don't really talk to them.Right.And I think that's the same for a lot of us.I mean, I definitely check in with more than I check in with others.I definitely check in more with some than others, but over the years you might feelmore of like a friendship, you know, but no, I can understand that and respect that.So did you guys get a season two or you don't know?I don't know.
09:10So y'all are not filming?They don't tell me anything.I read everything as, I get, I read it on the Ashley.Oh yeah.You know, Larry is, Larry hates the Ashley and actually when I landed here, he calledme and was like, um, I just want to make sure that the Ashley is not phone tapping this conversation.I said, the Ashley doesn't care about you, Larry, and he goes, I beg to differ.Yeah.
09:34Oh my gosh.I find that on the Ashley too.I'm like, I don't read everything on the Ashley.And then it's always like a super inside source.Well, I read something yesterday because I did this dating show where Google alertsbecause now that Kale and I are attached to each other via coffee combos, then everythingthat team mom that comes out, my name is attached to it.So then I get the Google alert like four days later and I'm like, Oh wow.
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11:15it was just my tweets.I said, oh, okay.Oh my God.They always say exclusive.It's exclusive.You talk to them.I didn't know how misleading the tabloids were until I got into it.I used to be like, oh my God, this is happening.
11:26But I will say I was buying all the magazines.But I've read so much stuff about myself.The Ashley is almost pretty much spot on.Really?I've never read the Ashley article that wasn't true.Have you?You did?I read an article.
11:40Ashley gave a statement and they were basically asking, what do I feel is different from ourshow versus OG?All I said literally was I feel like we're just a younger generation and our problemsare a little bit more relatable because they're problems of today.What Macy was going through when she was having Bentley is different from what we're goingthrough now.It's a different time.Now they turned it in and it was like, young and pregnant Ashley slams all the OGs, talks
12:06about how their show is a flop and it's just one quote for me.That's literally a lie.And I was like, this isn't right.This is not even.But that's kind of how reality TV edits.Yeah.So I mean, yeah.So I do have a question.
12:23You had a feud with a mom that's no longer a part of the franchise.Just call it out.Call it out.Call it how it is.Flip flop there.Flip flop.Okay.Probably accurate.
12:36I like that.Tell us everything.I went to LA.Oh, wait.I read this.Oh my God.Tell me.Okay.
12:45I was invited to FabFitFun in LA.Me too.And I didn't go.And I was super excited.It's the first ever like brand party I've ever been to.So I was like, yeah, I'm going to go, whatever, whatever.But I had previously linked with one of Farrah's like PR people.Who was it?
12:58His name is Johnny.Johnny Donovan.Yeah, I work with him too.And he was like, you know, like come downstairs, meet Farrah, even like that.So I came downstairs to the event.I met Farrah.She was super nice.Super fucking nice.
13:08Yeah.Like can I?Yeah.No, I curse all the time.She was super nice.Like no issue.Like we did our little thing.But I only saw her for like five minutes literally.
13:17She left.She came for five minutes, took like five pictures and then she left the event.So then I get on the internet and it's like, um, she's saying basically that she didn'thave Sophia to be famous unlike some of the other teen moms.And then she said Ashley.And then she said your name.She said my name and then she said that she never was talking about me, but in the video,is there another teen mom named Ashley?
13:42No.Okay.Not that we know.So it was you.So I knew it was me.It's like you just meet me all of a sudden and then all of a sudden like you're sayingmy name.Like what are the chances that you're just randomly saying Ashley, you know what I'm saying?
13:54So she was like, not like the other teen moms on this franchise, like, I don't know, Ashley,Cheyenne.Cheyenne.What?Yeah.What?She was already on a TV show before she got pregnant, right?Let's not rationalize someone.
14:08That's an idiot.She doesn't really.Jesus Christ.Yeah.So she, so that's what I saw.And then so basically I responded by saying, well, you know, you show your ass and everyother part of your body to stay relevant.I mean, like you couldn't just be a teen mom.
14:24You had to have sex on every platform you could.And then you think you're licensed to charge $5,000 for sex therapy girl paid for all thatass.And it doesn't even move.The boobs don't move.So.Neither does the butt.Yeah.
14:38Nothing moves.So my whole point is, don't talk shit about what people do to stay relevant, honey, becauseyou.She's like the epitome of doing anything to stay relevant.You are Cloud Chase 101.That's what you should be selling tickets for.How to Cloud Chase.Oh my God.
14:53Farrah.But I did see her riding.She got on like some private jet.Maybe it was just a photo op.I don't know.I'd be curious to know like people are actually paying Farrah to do shit.I know what they are paying her to do.I'm not going to say it because it's none of my business, but it's our business when
15:09you tell us.I'm telling you, Dubai is a wonderful place.Yes.Oh.She's not wrong.She's not wrong.I love it.I love it.
15:21So tell us about your little girl.I want to know all of the things.Her name is Holly.She is now 16 months.And she's the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life.I feel like they grow so quick.Wait, can I ask you a question while I'm on here?Why is Bar not on here?
15:36Why is he not on your Instagram?Well, the truth is he pissed me off.Did you archive them so you can bring them back or did you just delete them?I have them all.I have them all.Are y'all married or just together?We're engaged.Okay.
15:49To get married.I hope so.I don't hope so.Are you engaged to be engaged or engaged to love it?Engaged to be engaged to be married.Okay.So y'all got in a fight or he pissed you off and you deleted all the pictures.That's so mean.
16:01Because I'm an emotional girl.Also, it's like, I feel like our business is so out there because we post so many picturesand I feel like people really take that.People don't understand that just because he's not on my social life doesn't mean he'snot in my real life.So I feel like when I'm ready to post, if I have a fire pick, I'll post it.Yeah, I'm sorry.But actually my friend, that's you for sure you.
16:21In the real world, he is still my baby daddy.I was just going to say, in future relationships, I feel like I'll post them but not tag them.Oh my God.Because I don't need to be handed my man or my woman out all these people to slide intheir DMs.And I was like, sis, please don't do the kissy faces on his picture.No, don't do that.Like, you know he's in a relationship.
16:42Girls have, let me just shut up because once upon a time, I wouldn't so, you know.But I don't go with him, he had a girlfriend.Okay, so please tell us the details.Like, how did you guys meet?Did you know this girl?Yeah, did you know her is the real question?The real question and did he just like leave her immediately when he saw you?Okay.
17:09Definitely did.That's he is.Definitely.And he's in the corner putting his head down because he wants no parts in this podcast.I met Barr in high school.We had a mutual friend that I knew from elementary school and he always liked me.So he tried to use Barr to like set us up.But really, Barr ended up falling for you.
17:28But I ended up moving back to California and going to the same school as him, coincidentally.So when I saw him, I was like, ooh, you're so much cuter than your Facebook picture.And I just like started liking him.And then he moved to London and I didn't see him for two years.Yeah.And then he moved back.But when he moved back, he had this girlfriend.From London?
17:48Yes, from London.Did she have an accent?No, no.He moved back and then they got together.He had been here for like six or seven months or so.And it's another girl that we knew from high school.So yes, I knew her.I didn't care about her.
18:01She's not my friend.I don't owe her shit.And actually, I just thought Barr was so attractive and I had one thing in mind.And so I told him, stay with your girlfriend because I'm bad news.And he didn't listen.Okay.So you warned him.I told him.
18:18So did he leave her or did he cheat on her?With you?He cheated for a while.And then he left.I mean, I think the alternative would have been that he would have just kept cheatingand then never left her for you.Okay.But in my defense, let me just...
18:35I'm not judging because I've been through some shit.But what would have that been like if you, okay, if you get with a man who's cheatingon his woman, but then...They never leave the woman.They never leave the woman, that would piss me off.Then I'm literally going to sabotage, like I'm not here to sabotage.I was 18, fresh out of high school, fresh out of a three-year relationship with a girlthat was very toxic.
18:56Oh, wow.You had a girlfriend.I had a girlfriend for, what, three and a half years.So you and Kale are basically the same people.Same people.You are my people.Yes.Kale is my people.
19:06Yes.So I left her.I didn't want to be a relationship.I just...Wanted to be free.I wanted to be free.And so I told him...I know about that.
19:15Don't...Yeah.We can all relate, girl.Yeah.So that was the situation.So I told him, I said, make it work with her.Don't come over here trying to be, you know...In a relationship and shit.
19:25But it just happened that they were already growing apart.So...Okay.That's fair.And that's...And you know what?People like...And you just became a part of that toxic...
19:34We just started hanging out every single day.And then one day I was like, I'm going to hang out with another guy.And he was like, no, you're not.And I was like, yes, I am.And he was like, no, you're not.And I was like, if you want to tell me what to do and who to do it with, make me yourgirlfriend.And he was like, okay, you're my girlfriend.
19:46Oh, my gosh.Oh, yes.It's only that simple, the rest is history.So then you guys get pregnant.How far into the relationship?About...We got together in 2015.I got pregnant in 2017.
19:59Okay.So two years.You guys were kind of...Okay.And how has your relationship been since you've had Holly?Up and down.Yeah.It's like everybody who has kids.
20:08I think...Yeah.You don't know how immature your relationship is until you have a child.Yeah.I agree with that.Because the conversations become so much more serious.Yeah.Yeah.
20:17It's like a lot of communication.Yeah.Like it's a...Yeah.Well, and I feel like whenever you have a kid, your whole life just changes so much.Yeah.And everything becomes about your kid and it's no longer about you and it's no longer aboutyour partner and it's what's best for your kid and you start realizing that maybe you're
20:32not even best for each other.Yeah.I think that's true.It can be a hard transition.To your point, I feel like sometimes when you're super young, even if you're not a teenager,but like 20, 21, 22, like you're still in a phase where you kind of want to go out withyour friends and like do that whole thing, but someone has to stay with the baby.So who gets to go out?
20:49Right.And then you resent the other person because I have to do this, this, and this and whatare you doing?Do you know what I mean?Right.And it doesn't have to be that way where if you're older and you're married and you feellike, okay, we're going to have this child and we're going to do X, Y, and Z, it's morelike you're maybe not ready, you're not going to go out, you're not going to be worried about
21:04who's going out with their friends.You know what I mean?Yeah.And so that was really hard.I mean, I went through it with all three of my baby dads.So I get it and I always feel like the first two years are the hardest.Like if you can make it through those first two years and sleepless nights and all ofthat stuff, then you have a more solid foundation, I feel like.
21:25I feel like there's so much resentment there when I really first have a kid that you'relike, okay, I just only want to kill you.Yeah.Pretty much.Yeah.Not the kid, the significant other.Yeah.Let's clarify.
21:38Let's clarify that we're not talking about killing the children, we're talking about killingthe men.Yes, killing the men.Yeah, for sure.I'm with you guys on that one.Okay, you guys.So let's take a break to talk about something a lot of women have to deal with, which isbirth control.
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23:25What would you say like the hardest thing was for you?I think me and Bart come from very different places, he was raised, like let's just keepit real, he was raised in the ghetto, he was raised in East Oakland, I was raised in ElCerrito, so they're two different worlds and my way of life is different from his.So there's some things that we just don't see eye to eye on certain things that I feellike are very important and he feels like are very important, they don't align.So it's like how much is too much to give your child, I want her to have a lot of me,I want her to have a lot of my book smart and I want her to have his street smart,
23:59you need both, but it's like how much is too much, how do you make it even?I guess the hardest thing is when you're a new mom, you just want everything to be goodfor your child.You don't know what's good yet, because you just had a baby, so it's like, yeah, you'rejust making all these turns hoping that you end up where you're supposed to be.Did either, because you guys come from such different places, did either one of your familieshave an issue with you guys being together?Definitely.
24:25Really?He's nodding his head in the background.His mom didn't like me because she felt like I was too bougie and my grandparents and myfamily didn't like him because they felt like he was too ghetto.And so how do you guys balance that out now as everyone pretty much civil and like gettingalong or what does that look like today?Well I just started saying I don't care how anybody feels, I'm gonna be with him andI'm gonna do it regardless, so if you don't want to deal with me because that's your loss
24:48because I'm fucking amazing.If you don't want to deal with him, he's fucking amazing, so you lose out, we're two amazingpeople, so I mean if anything, we win.And you guys are still together raising your daughters, so I mean that's what's most important.I feel like you guys are, you've stuck it out this far, not only for each other, butnow you're raising your daughter together.Right, right.So it's worth it.
25:08I think in the end my family, my family kind of was just like, well you know, she's gonnabe with him either way.So either I can distance myself from her and not know what's going on with her or I canaccept her and just maybe not be all up in his face all the time.You know what I'm saying?I think the way, at first they were about shit crazy, I don't know what to do.Your family or his?Both.
25:28Oh wow, okay.I wanted to not be a part of either.I wanted to be adopted.You wanted to also kill all of them.Yes, I wanted to murder all of them, so now it's people are getting to a point whereeveryone's cordial and everyone's trying and everyone's on the right foot, but at firstit was hard.And not to mention, I didn't do things the right way, no one really met him.
25:47How my grandparents and my dad met him is, I was sneaking him in my house all the timeand he was sleeping in my bed, we were both butt naked, my dad was in the room, we'reunder the covers, my dad was in the room, he's like who's in your bed, I'm like nobody,he's like I can see his feet.I tried to jump up, but I'm naked.So you pulled the blanket off or something?I think he had his boxers on or something like that, but I like jump up, I'm like gettingmy clothes on like, oh it was crazy.
26:18So that's how they met bar.Oh wow.Did they kick him out?How did that happen?Oh yeah.Yeah.You're not giving us any conclusion here.Basically my dad, I think he just instinctively knew just get the fuck out of the house.
26:30So somehow he ended up downstairs and then after I got my clothes and I ended up downstairsand my dad was all like why are you here, like my dad was pissed.Obviously.And my mom had to come, my mom had to come and like break it up and pick me up and Ithink he took the bus home or whatever, so how far between that and the next time theysaw him and was it awkward?Well the next time they saw him was when my mom went to Vegas and he was in Vegas andI had to come home that I was not moving back to Vegas with him.
26:58I wasn't moving back to California with her, I was staying in Vegas to be with him.So the next time she saw him, she was clothed.The next time, right?She was clothed.Good, good.But I had even worse news.You were pregnant.No, my mom had went to Vegas on vacation and he had went with his brothers on vacation
27:15and when he got down there he was like I'm staying and I'm like well I'm staying too.So the next time my mom saw him was when we were in the hotel together and I was tellingher that I was not coming back with her, I was staying in Vegas with him.I bet she loved that.Oh yeah.She loved it.Oh my gosh.She loved it.
27:31She loved it.I cannot.This is an amazing story.I did not realize that people actually snuck people in their house, like I didn't knowthat was like a for real thing.I snuck him in like every night for like two months.And they didn't know just that one time, what was the...What's the protocol of sneaking somebody in?
27:49Well first of all, how did he get caught?Like why, how did you get caught this one time?Did you guys make noise?Like what happened?Kale.What?I need to know.No, we were done making noise, girl.
27:59We were going to work.No, that's not what I meant.That's not it.Well my dad usually wasn't there.We were done making noise.Yeah, we were done making noise but it wasn't the noise.He was just checking on his daughter.Yeah, my dad was usually not there, but my dad was there this one time and my dad is
28:17usually like five in the morning person.So here he comes six in the morning.But why was he knocking on your door?He obviously had a feeling something was going on because why else would he wake you upand check on your noise?He heard you because there was a lot of, there was a lot of, my grandparents were gettingthe backyard redone, the front yard redone, so I think he was asking me to come downstairsand help him with something because everybody was in, everybody in the house was up doing
28:38stuff but me.So he probably was like, let me go wake up Ashley and tell her to come downstairs andtell her that we're all up and moving and trying to get the house together.And we had an extra set of hands.Oh wow.Oh my gosh.I could not imagine what it would be like to sneak somebody in my house like that wouldn'teven be at all.
28:56He was coming through the window, he was coming through the front door, he was coming throughthe back door.I didn't have a bedroom door so that would have never been able to happen at my house.That's not a thing.No, I would have been murdered.I would have been here for coffee combos.Yeah, no, I would have been buried in the backyard for sure.Same.
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31:04All the workouts and nutritional information totally free.Again, just text coffee to 30, 30, 30.So tell us once you started filming young and pregnant, how your life changed?Obviously, you're in the public eye now.Is it just me or does every person on the franchise get in a bad mood the minute westart filming?Oh, it's me all the time.Literally, I will be at my front door and I'm like, I can't film today.
31:34Yes.The day went well.Actually, I'm not even doing anything, but I don't feel like it.The mood is just like...See, I don't even understand that kind of production.As soon as we start filming, I'm instantly in a bad mood.I have an attitude.I'm defensive.
31:46I'm cold.I have a stone face.Do you know why?Because you know that you're going to be talking about shit that you probably already haveemotionally dealt with million times, talked to your friends about and now you're overit and now it's two months later and you're judging it back up.Well, and also, I'm about to be 27, all pretty much my friends have full-time jobs and stuff,so I'm like, my friends don't want to film.
32:08They don't want to...They're like, oh, we need a scene with this.We need a scene with this.So it's a whole bunch of couch scenes where you're just talking about shit that you don'teven care about.Yeah.So it's rough.It's definitely rough.
32:19I read something that...Well, two things.One, I read that you didn't want to re-sign at one point.You didn't want to get back into it if you got a second season.The second thing that I read was, I don't know who maybe Lexi or Leah or something did notget re-signed.I read that, too.Do you know if it's true?
32:37I don't know.Who's Lexi or Leah?She's a girl in her cast.What were your reservations about filming a second season?Because I feel like they only show one side of me.I can be super cool or I cannot be super cool.Same.But I feel like they don't show how I tick to get angry.
32:57They...All you see is like, I'm super cool and then I'm cussing you out.But they don't show the escalation.So it looks like I just attack people all the time and that's really not who I am.And I just got to the point where it's like, I'm the first black girl on the show andI feel like you guys are trying to keep me in this bitter ass baby mama, like, role.I don't want to talk about the same shit.I don't want to always be the one that's having negative conversations and negative
33:19feelings.Like, I offer so much more than all this fucking drama and it's about my real life, then checkin with my real life.My real life is so positive.I don't have any...Like, the TV drama is different, but my real life drama is not almost non-existent.So I just felt like they weren't portraying me as I am, like, yeah, I can be a bitch,but who can't?
33:38You know what I'm saying?But if you really want to get the story, show things that lead up to the explosion.Don't just click bait with all this fucking, you know what I'm saying?And you're not really showing what happened.Yeah.I think to me was just...I've struggled with that over the past 10 years.Yeah.
33:55Every person that we've had from the franchise that we've talked to has kind of said...Express the same thing at some point during the Teen Mom stuff, we've all kind of experiencedthat same thing.Like, I just was on, like, I guess you could call it a strike for a couple weeks becauseof the strike.Yeah.I mean, it was a filming strike.I didn't film for a couple weeks and I was just, like, I'm tired of being the same cold
34:20bitch that they portray me all the time.Cast, like, they don't, it's not like there's no room for growth because as soon as youdo grow, they want you to have a conversation about something that you've already grownfrom.Yeah.And it makes it seem like you're always in this state of just perpetual, just like...Right, right.You can't get out of this.
34:39There's no way you get out of this.And then I don't even watch it back because it's like, geez, I always look angry.No one gets to see, like...And you've already lived it, like, twice already.So then when you're watching it on TV, that's the third time that you've lived it and you'rejust kind of like...Right.Like, it's old.
34:52Yeah.Yeah.That's how I feel.Yeah.That's a horrible place to be in.But you do probably get a lot of stuff that people say that you've helped them in someway, I'm sure.Yeah.
35:04I do get that.I get a lot of people telling me, like, oh, you gave me the guts to just say how I feel.And I'm like, well, that's good because I'm a very outspoken person and everybody knowsI'm gonna tell you how I feel.Right.So I want everybody to say how they feel.I don't want anybody to be walked on.So I'm happy that I can hope in that aspect.
35:18Right.So, you know, it has its pluses and minuses.I wish they would film, like, the Teen Mom cast together, like, on a vacation.I pitched that so many times.I pitched that too.They took my...I said, because we were going to Puerto Rico the one year, my family.And I was like, oh, we should do this for Teen Mom too, like, get us all together.
35:38They took that idea and then they took the Teen Mom OG girls to Puerto Rico.And I was like, wow, that was a bummer.Like, that was my idea for my cast.But like, it would be cool to, like, people love crossover, so it would be kind of coolto do, like, you guys with us whole point.People love to see people.I mean, I feel like Teen Mom has kind of, it just had the same feel for me for the pastcouple years.
35:58Yeah.Like, let's spice it up.Right.Let's get some, you know, unity going.Like, let's get the OGs with the, I mean, there's some of the twos I don't want to see,honey.So leave those at home.Leave those at home.
36:09Some of the twos.And it's not me.Yeah.There's some of the twos I don't want to see.So leave them at home.But I'll take the good ones.I'll take all the ones that are cool, you know what I'm saying?Yes.
36:19I know the twos.I know the twos.You've met only the good ones, huh?Yeah.Well, consider yourself best.Yes.I did want to ask you about school.Are you still in school?
36:35Yes.Or you are?I'm still in school.I'm on track to graduate in July.Yes.Okay.And what are you going to do, like, when you graduate?I'm going to be a CMA, so Certified Medical Assistant, which is really, I mean, I don't
36:47want to downplay myself because it is really something.But basically, the program that I'm in was nine months.And I started when I got pregnant.So my thing was like, okay, I'm pregnant.And then in nine months, I'll be able to have a career.That was kind of how I want something quick and that I can take and really have a careerwith.Right.
37:05So I left when I had my baby.I didn't go back.So now I paid all this money.I might as well go back.Right.And then I went to school to be a nurse practitioner or physician assistant and open up my ownlike beauty clinic.That would be so cool.
37:18Oh, like, like, um, like Botox, these stuff, like Med Spa.Yeah, Med Spa.Yeah.Yeah.That's awesome.I actually have a friend in Dallas that has a Med Spa.Yeah.That would be so cool.
37:28Okay.If you didn't have a baby so young, do you feel like your career path would have beendifferent?Yeah.What would you think you have done?Well, I probably still be a stripper.You what?You were a stripper?
37:40Yeah.Can you teach me how to do something?I did not know about this.Yes.When we were living in Vegas, I was a stripper.Okay.Did you make a lot of money?Well, to be 19 and stripper and yeah.
37:48I can't dance.We should take pole dancing.Yeah.That's what we should do.For coffee combos podcast.Yeah.But also for YouTube.Yeah.
37:56I'd probably, the thing we should snap off at the top.If I got on it.Uh-uh.No, it would not.You would see girls, every girl, every side.Do they like big girls though?So tell us about.Being a stripper, like what is that like?
38:10Did you, you didn't have to work like a nine to five.I made my own schedule.Well, that's good.I probably went in to work three times a week.And that paid the bills three days a week?Yeah.Oh, amazing.Oh, wow.
38:23No shade.Must have been pretty good.Seriously.I would have to work like eight days a week for me to be making any type of money.I'd have to work 12.Yeah.You just go on the good days.Like I don't go on the good days and I might stay from nine to.
38:39A.M. or P.M.?9 p.m. to 4 a.m.Maybe.Wow.That's not too bad.But sometimes you get like a bachelor party and bam, that's $2,000 right there.So then you can just leave.Oh my gosh.
38:51$2,000.No wonder people do it.Now don't put your day job leave.Don't put your day job leave.Don't put your day job leave.Don't be called most podcast.Neither of us are really considering this.Only because I can't dance at all.
39:02So same.Like I would, it would be tragic.You'd be surprised.It's not about the dancing.It's about the illusion of dance.It's about the swaying.If you can just.Like yoga on a pole.
39:13If you can just hold the pole and sway.Most clubs can't dance.No, I can't dance.I can actually dance.Okay.However, most clubs, they don't like the ass shaking.Do they talk about.It's just a lot of like nice sensual like movements.
39:29If you get me.Like yoga.Yes.Like sexy yoga on a pole.With no clothes.Yeah.Imagine.Did they talk about this on your show?
39:38She said with no clothes.In the beginning they did say that I was stripper.I think.Cause a lot of people know.They do?Yeah.This is the first I'm ever hearing of this.I think I'm like the very, very like first part of the first season.
39:50Like my first.How many seasons have you all done?What you're all sure.Well, it's been one, but it was broken up.Like A and B.Okay.You had two seasons.Yeah.
39:59So like in the first half.Like they introduced me.Got it.Okay.Okay.Okay.Whatever.Yeah.
40:07Wait.So are all strippers.Like completely naked or is it just sometimes like halfway naked?I think they have their underwear on.Yeah.No.Don't bring your man girl.No.
40:15It depends on what club you go to.Some clubs are topless.Some clubs are fully nude.Oh.My club is fully nude.Okay.Yeah.Okay.
40:27Wow.I've been to a couple of strip clubs.Yeah.For example, I was a friend for his 21st birthday.Or wait.I was, how...I got in illegally.Did you have to be 21?
40:35In Pennsylvania, I think.No.He was 18 and I was younger than that maybe.Wow.I don't remember how old we were, but how did you like it?I took him, and when I came back, she was like trying to get in his sweatpants.Okay.No.
40:54See that's not a thing.But that club got shut down.See, okay, it depends because some clubs are like...clubs are like real nasty, real raunchy, anything goes.The club that I worked at is called Palominos.It's one of the only clubs that's actually fully nudeand serves alcohol.Usually the rule is if you're nude, they don't serve alcohol
41:10because they don't want you to getdrunk and touchy-filly.They don't want to avoid problems.So all the private dances, there were cameras in the room,there were security guards that walked us to the room,like they time-checked.We had to sign in for a private dance.Like it was no funny business.
41:25They were kicking, like they really took care of their girls.Right.Well, that's the one that you would want to work out.Yeah, that's the one that is.They're going to work at.Yeah, it wasn't a back door.You were paying $60 to do this.Oh, the one I went to.
41:35Yeah, it wasn't a back door.But how would you feel if your man went to your shirt?Would you let Bar go without you?Yeah.See, I don't.He knows better.I'd murder him.See, I don't have a problem with it at all.
41:49What's your problem?Like I don't think that if I'm with somebody,they don't need to be getting a lap dance, like in the back room.But I don't care if they went.I don't care if you went.And guess what, if you're going, you better get a lap dance,because you're going to make it worth it.Yeah, the first time he went to the club, he was scared.
42:02He didn't want to touch the stripper.He didn't want to smack the butt.He didn't want to do anything.I said, we did not come all the way here for nothing.You better smack her butt.But you were with him in that moment.You better throw some dollars.Yeah, but if he went, I mean, I trust him.
42:13And here's the thing.If a guy's going to cheat, go, he's going to cheat the same way.No matter what.He's going to cheat at Starbucks.You know?Right.Cheat.Yeah.
42:20I mean, there's no amount of P.I. work you can do to keep your man from cheating if he's a dog, he's a dog. So you just have to wait to catch him. And you know what I'm saying?I mean, yeah, but you can't try to.I mean, I feel like I'd rather him, I rather know that he's going and who he's going with and him to tell me that he's not going and go because he doesn't want me to be angry.Right.Because then I'm really going to be angry.Well, so.No, I would rather the honesty.Like if you're going to go, just tell me that you're going because I'm going to be 10 times more mad.
42:47Well, so. And then you're going to think he's cheating because like why you didn't tell me you were going.Why you didn't tell me, yeah.I, there was one time my friend and I were at the house with the kids at my house and strippers were tweeting me that Hobby and his friend were at the strip club.We're like, oh, that's why your man's out here getting a lap dance while you're at home with the kids.And I didn't know.Wow.We didn't know.And that's when I was like, oh, no, like you're not about to pay our mortgage money to these strippers and I didn't even know about it.
43:12Right.So that's when I would have a problem.But other than that, like if I know, it wouldn't bother me. I don't think I mean, I want to do like I want to live my life.Like, you know, I might want to hit up a strip club or whatever with my girls and I don't want him to feel like, you know, like there's trust.I guess I just, you just have to trust the person that you're with.Right.And if, if that's not an environment that you're used to, it can make you uncomfortable.Yeah.
43:34You know what I'm saying?But if when I was dancing, it wasn't about sex.It wasn't about any, I don't know.It was about taking all of your rent money and making sure that you couldn't pay rent when you left.Yeah.If you look at it as a job, if the stripper is really serious about the stripper, really serious about making her money, she's not trying to sleep with your man.There's no money in prostitution is illegal.Yeah.
43:56And also the clubs don't like, my club wasn't even like, you couldn't even like,it wasn't a thing.They were so on it.Like if it even looked like you were getting too friendly, they're separating people, keeping people out all the time.Yeah.It just sleeping with them didn't cross my mind.It was like, ew, you're in here paying to see butt cheeks.Like, do you not know Pornhub exists?
44:15Like, just give me your money now.Shout out to Pornhub.Yeah, like, I don't know, it was weird.Oh my God.Let's talk about something that I know a lot of our listeners agree with me about.And that's how we want to get into healthier habits.And bio clarity is a great habit to get into.It's a clean and green skincare brand that has products that work.
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45:59Marriage boot camp?Had they?They approached us all.Oh, you were approached too? I forgot about that. Have you not wanted to do it?They told me I couldn't.Then how did I do it?Oh, because you were on a couple of seasons before they offered it to you.But here's the thing, if you were to walk away from Teen Mom young and pregnant, you could do that show.
46:21So you can do it either way.What are they going to do? They're going to fire you?They're basically saying that they feel like I need to wait because a lot of the girls didn't get other TV offers until they were already far their end.This is what I would say.Just do it.That is what I said silently.I didn't know how far I can push the line on what I wanted to do.Because there was a time where Teen Mom 2 was still going on and probably longer than OG.
46:51Farah, for example, took opportunities and we had both been on the show for a long time. So why was she approved and I wasn't?Also, all of her endorsements and her products and stuff, her books, were all in the background of Teen Mom filming.They blurred my own book out in my own home.And I was like, oh, no. That's not fair. So I would just say that's not fair. Do you have an agent?That's how I did it.But I did go through that whole thing, but my agent said if Marriage Bootcamp wants you, they'll come back.That's true. They will.Are you not going to do it?
47:32I don't think so.You just got to put a lot of your...I just feel like it's so...I feel like you could get something out of it for sure if you do it the right way.But I definitely feel like you've got to put so much out there that it's already bad enough as it is without going and putting all of that out there.My stuff was already out there.The thing about being on Teen Mom is it's already out there.So really, it looks like you're going there to deal with it because it's already out there.
48:03All my shit was already...But that's the benefit of the docu-series, I guess.Where you're able to kind of keep your family problems private as much as you want or you're willing to give.So that's probably a plus to being on your type of show.Yeah.I would take that if I could.I always tell people that I want to be on this show.I say keep your privacy.
48:28Nothing is worth giving up your privacy.Nothing in this world.Everyone knows everything about me.I don't think I have one secret at this point.None.Not even one secret.No.Actually, you do.
48:40I was about to say.I know what you did last time.I just wanted people to think that they were secrets to find out.But there's none.There is none.Okay, I have like...We like to do like the fun question thing.So we're going to ask you just like a this or that and you tell us what you'd rather.
48:57First of all, I asked this on Twitter today.What is your favorite breakfast meat?Bacon.And why?It's just...Bacon is just bacon.I mean like...You don't need a why for that.
49:10You can't beat bacon.We are sausage link type of people.Really?Yeah.See, I'm not a sausage person.See, we like the way it pops in our mouth.I hate.Okay.
49:20First of all...I hate.I should have said first of all, girl.First of all, let's just rewind.Okay.That's what you like.In your mouth.That's...
49:28This is not for me.Okay.This is not for you.Second question.If you were to make an omelet, what would it be with?Eggs, tomatoes, avocado, probably basil.Dang.What the fuck is basil?
49:41That's real specific.I don't even eat omelets.I've never had one in my life.Okay.Which is so weird to me.You need to come over.Are you going to cook me because I can't cook?Girl, I'll make you some sausages and an omelet.
49:52Oh my gosh.I'm so weird.I only like cheese on my omelet.But that's basically like...A scrambled egg.That's like scrambled eggs and cheese.But I don't think so because the texture is different.You know what I mean?
50:03The omelet world is so big.You need to expand your minds.Yeah.The omelet world is in this.Coke or Pepsi?Coke.Yeah.I grew up on Pepsi and I hate it.
50:13I love Coke.We both grew up on Pepsi.I grew up on Coke.My grandparents always buy Coke.Coke.Yeah.For sure.Beach or city?
50:21Because the Bay Area, you're where?In the city?The city.So you're picking the city or you would rather be?I'm picking the beach because in my head, I'd be at the beach.But I'm picking the city because I want to be truthful to you.I feel like I'm a more beach person.I hate the city.
50:37I don't like the city either.I don't like the city either.But I mean, if I had to pick LA or New York, I would for sure pick LA just because it's...Okay, but you are dealing with like some serious city.Okay, I am dealing with Berkeley.That's not anywhere near LA or New York.So your experience probably is more traumatic.I invite you to my side of the world.
50:57And I'm dealing with Atlanta.Oh, I love Atlanta.It's like my favorite place ever.I love Atlanta.That's like a city, but I feel like I could live in like that type of city.Maybe we should all come to Atlanta and then just have like our own show.Atlanta and Dallas for sure.I like Atlanta.
51:13Yeah.I love Atlanta.Like I couldn't imagine myself living somewhere else, but I always think about where elseI would live.Yeah.Would you live in LA?I feel like I live like on the beach.Here.
51:25I definitely do.The houses look like they're gonna fall off into the water.Yes.There's no backyard.There's no space.Touch.That doesn't scare me.Oh, see, I don't want anyone to hear my trauma.
51:36But what if you have an earthquake?That's in the mudslides.And then your whole damn house is sliding.Yeah.Yeah.That's a little bit scary.I just wouldn't be nervous looking at all that water.Yeah.
51:48I don't know.I don't know.Something about it just makes you.Something about the fact that there could be a huge tsunami and my house can just belike washed back into the water and me with it and my child.Yeah.That's kind of all I feel like.I mean, I'll take my chances with the earthquake.
52:00I'm not a strong summer, so I'll go where I know best.Sorry.I'll jump over the cracks in the ground, but I'm not going to know.So do you guys have a date set for your wedding?September 2020.Okay.So a year and a half?Not an actual day, but that's the month and the year.
52:20Yeah.Yeah.Well, that'll be good.I got married in September too.It was a good time.Not too hot, not too cold.I'm born in September, so.It's just an awesome month.
52:28Yeah.Do you want to have more kids?Yes.But not anytime soon.No.So you don't want your kids to be close to age?I do, but I just don't have the time or the energy.Yeah, it's hard.
52:41Especially when you're like going to school and stuff.I had Isaac and then was trying to go back to school and I like kept going to schooldropping out, going to school dropping out.It ended up taking me seven years and then obviously had Lincoln and then decided tofinish, but they're three and a half.They're almost four years apart.And I still think that that's still good.They love each other.
53:02So.In about five years, my IUD will be done.It'll be expired.Oh, actually it won't.So I will maybe be ready to take it out.Maybe not.But this one's good for 10 years.Right.
53:13So, you know, we might just be going and going and going.I love it.Lindsay doesn't even know if she wants more kids, huh?Yeah.I have a six-year-old and I don't know, you know.Take your time.It's just hard.Like I feel like, but then I feel like one of my eggs dropped.
53:26Well, that's why we're going to freeze your eggs.Yeah.Exactly.We should film freezing my eggs.Yeah.And maybe also mine.But I thought you were going to do, oh, you would do genderselection.
53:38Yeah.I want to do gender selection because I only have, I have threeboys.So like I, for sure.But I asked, I definitely asked Chris and Chris was not aboutit.And not about gender selection.Because I think he would have to like go in a cup and then.
53:49Oh my God.Also he'd probably wouldn't willingly have a girl.Like I think it would just be like, you know what I mean?Yeah.So, but one day.Yeah.I want a boy.One day.
53:59Maybe one day in 10 years.Okay.Do you think that aliens exist?Yes.Definitely.Do you?I do.No.
54:10I don't have a take on this.This is like one thing that I'm just not sure.I just don't think it's real.I feel like we like have not explored anywhere near the amountthat we need to explore to be able to rule out.They've never taken an actual picture of the entire earth.They haven't done a lot of shit.It's actually Photoshopped.
54:26Ask them why you can't even go to Antarctica.Why?You can, I think.No, you can't.You can book a cruise for 2024 that you're going to get refunded for.Wait, did y'all see the Titanic 2?The Titanic 2?Yeah, we've talked about this.
54:39Would you go on the Titanic 2?It's an exact replica of the Titanic.Would you go on that?Nope.It's going to be an exact replica of how it's so...Exactly.Y'all.No, thanks.
54:51I don't want to relive that.But I can swim so I think I can redo it.You can't use...Can I...Can I lay on top of you while you swim?No.If that's the case, I'll go.Okay, time out.
55:00Back to Antarctica.What do you...I thought you can go.Like, certain...You can go to certain parts of it.You're thinking of Alaska.You're thinking of Alaska.No, bitch.
55:08I'm thinking of Antarctica.She's thinking of Alaska.She's thinking of Alaska.Look it up.Google, can you fly to Antarctica?You cannot go to Antarctica.And I'm not even looking it up.Yes, you can.
55:17I've seen it somewhere, bitch.I'm telling you.It's not real.Okay.It's not real.It's not real.I can't take it.I'm telling you,
55:25I think when you get here,I won't look it up.I'll do it.I'm saying it's not real.I think when you go to Antarctica...They're gonna tell you yes.Because you can book a cruise.But the cruises are all to be determined.
55:33It's crazy.And they're all hell of expensive.You have to be the elite of the eliteto even afford a room on the cruise ship.Just ignore Kale and don't even...It says yes.There are fly cruise trips to Antarcticawhere you can take a flight to Frey Station.
55:44That place probably doesn't even exist though.And it's probably just a scam.I need to see Antarctica on a map.Well, we're not doing that right now. Okay, that's why you're not looking at it on the map right nowAll right, just there's some secrets over thereThere's some secrets that they don't want us to know where else ways they're a whole part of the world that we can't go toBecause it's too cold. No, that's my choice. That's my choiceThere's not like civilization there you're telling me if we showed up to Antarctica, we would just like literally freeze our tits off
56:14Correct. I don't think so. So then how come there in Antarctica? Look, I remain in Antarctica doing whatever they're doingHmm to be continued. YeahWhat are your most important rules when going on a date with your man? OhThat's a good one. That is a good one. My most important rule is to look good and smell goodOkay, and what about phones? Do you have a phone thing? Like does that bother you?Mm-hmm as long I don't care if you're on your phone as long as you're like I'm not talking to you and you're likeThere are moments where we're probably like both on our phones or showing each other stuffBut I don't mind it so long as you're not like negligent. Yeah, I agree like we have this conversation last night
56:52I'll be on my phone and fully participating in a conversation do thatBut she can't do that right so I know when I see her on her phone. She's don't even approach herYeah, that kind of person she'll you'll talk and then she'll be like, huh?She can't do both. Yeah, if you can't do both then don't because I feel like you're at dinner with somebodyIt's rude to ignore that. Yeah, you can multitask and it's not a problem. I don't mind it. Yeah, I agreeYeah, I feel likefor meIt's an OCD thing. I think I
57:18mean not an OCD thing. What is it like a?ADHD ADHD thing. YeahYeah, it's like too much going on. I also have OCD, but um, yeah, I can't I can't do I can't do both at the same timeSo yes, that would be disrespectful, but I still do it. Oh, yeah, I read my mom does tooI think that's a common problemUmWhat is one thing that you feel like you're interested in that most people wouldn't beHmm
57:51I'm really into like greek mythology and I feel likeMaybe some people would be but I feel like it's something that people don't know about meLike I'm really into that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's coolReally like I really and like I have the whole siren thing people don't people think siren is my last name. It's notOh, oh, so my last name is jones siren. If you look at greek mythologySiren is like this beautiful mermaid that lures the men in the ocean. Yeah, I knowThey eat them and they kill them and in my younger days. I felt like that was meI feel like you did that to bar. Yeah with the girl. Mm-hmm. Yeah
58:24I love youAnd now you're mine and I may eat you and kill you or I may keep you captive and have a daughter with youIt's fineSo I got it. What what what better way to accept who I amI love that. I really thought this was your last name the entire time. I wrote it. Ashley siren. No, that's amazingSiren people think that your last name is siren. And then I was how do you pronounce it? Yeah, because I was like, is it siren or siren?Mm-hmm. It's not even it's jonesYou pronounce s i r e n it's pronounced jones. Yes, it's pronounced
58:58That's amazing. I really thought that that was her last name. I literally wrote it. Everyone does. Yeah. YeahNo, it's a much deeper meaningThat's amazingYeah, that'sVery interestingWell, kales into the zodiac. I'm really into zodiac and like numerology. I do like Greek mythology, but IDon't read into it as much as I read into with like astrology. Okay, so and she's like intoWhat is the other thing that you numerology numerology and
59:30We couldn't even count the other day. So I don't even know how she's into thatWe were like trying to add up the numbers. Yeah, we determined that you're an eight. Yeah, but that could be wrongBecause we could have found it wrong. I'm not really good with math. Yeah, it's it's in progress. Yeah. YeahI'm working on strengthening that. Okay. Okay. Yes. Correct. Yes. Everything takes timeWhat's the hardest that you have ever worked would that be stripping?Or was that not really hard?I was born with that skillBorn with that skill
01:00:00That was evenI think the hardest I've ever worked is working now likeBeing back balancing mom in schoolLike this is my first time being back in school since I had my kids so like right nowI've like been even neglecting bar because I really only see him in passingWhen we exchange the kid. You know what I'm saying? So do you all not live together? We don't live together right nowOhI moved back in with my mom
01:00:22And he moved in with his familyBecause we just needed time apartTime apart and separate support like yeah, so that's why he got his pictures deleted off instagramWow, I didn't know that after that. So do you guys have um plans to get move back in together? We doWe do but I feel likeRight now we justWell, I'll speak for myself right nowI just really want to focus on what I'm doing so that when I move back in like I can really add something
01:00:50So you guys are co-parenting while you're together. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. I've definitely been in that situation, but IYou mean chris were like that. I mean chris were you that said thatI was talking to somebody I can't remember who it was that said thatThey don't know if they they've been by themselves for me so long that they don't know if they could likeCo exist with another adult like in the same houseWith chris, I know that I could live with him againBut I do get frustrated when we were together and we didn't live together and we have a sonI'm like, what are we gonna fucking do? We're gonna do this for the rest of our lives is fucking live separate and co-parent
01:01:28Like he's like, this is not this isn't a traditional family. I'm like, I understand thatBut I don't want to be together and raise our son separate that doesn't even make any type of senseRight, but that was us when we don't we didn't have a goal to like move in together and like progress the relationshipAnd I feel like if you have a goal and you guys are gonna get married, you knowBy next year, it's okay to kind of take that time apartEspecially with the fact that you guys are gonna get married next year and I've been with bar for yearsRight, you know, like I've been with him for so long. We we helped each other raise each otherRight. Yeah, and it's like sometimes I feel like you can get so caught up in that
01:02:01But it's also good to get lost in the have personal goals and personal accomplishmentsAnd so that was really the reason because I just felt like we were so caught up in our little worldThat there were so many other things going on that we weren't taking care ofSo does it ever does it ever cross your mind that you guys would grow apart and not?It does okay because that can that can happen to anybodyI don't want to be dumb thinking that that's not a possibility because it is but I do say that likeWe were friends long before we were anything else. And so I really care about him on a different level than likeLike my boyfriend like I care about him as a friend. Yeah, so I feel like if we grow apart maybe like
01:02:41In a relationship way, I feel like he would always be a very dear friend to meThat's easy to say now and I might be bitter baby mama clubI've been there and I might be here saying a whole bunch of different words. Yes, you knowIf that's the case that might be a different interview, right? That might be that might be for the windy william showReally be acting crazy, but I I feel likeI do worry about it, but then it's like if that's gonna happen, it's gonna happenI can do right to it's kind of like the cheating thing we talked about. Yeah, it's gonna happenIt's gonna happen and you can only just so what does the custody look like right now for you guys?
01:03:15If since you guys are parenting kind of separately do you guys have like a schedule?Or is it kind of just like whenever I need you we pick up the others?You know not lack, but you know what I mean we split the week. Okay. We just split the weekSo he gets sunday monday tuesday. I get wednesday thursday friday. We usually together saturday and sunday. Oh, okayWell, that's kind of nice. Okay. We just split it and sometimes if I need more helpHe'll help or if he needs more help, you know, yeah, we adjust it as it goes, but usually we just split the weekOkay, and then you guys are together like two or three days out of the week. Okay. Well, that's goodI mean that's nice. I'm totally for like whatever works for you works for you
01:03:52And it might not sound traditional to somebody else or it might sound dysfunctional to somebody elseBut if it's working for you, then it's working for youWell, and also it's probably nice to like be with your family and save money because obviously after youDo get married and move back in together. You may want to like buy a house or like get inYou know what I mean? So it'll be kind of nice like save money while you're living with familyAnd it's not cheap. I live in California. It's $1,800 for a little studio. No, see that's more than my mortgage for a five-bedroom houseYeah, yeah, so that's crazy. It's for a little studio. Probably like we're talking like 600 square feet. You're paying $1,800No, yeah, and you probably don't even have a kitchen. You probably just have like
01:04:29Your kitchen and your own hot plate and you're probably sharing a bathroom. No, so yeahIn a dorm style like yeah, so it's not it's not cheap, right?Yeah, I live and it's like I do have family that will help and while I'm young I feel like I need to use thatYeah, and appreciate the fact that my mom is willing and his family is willing to let us kind of like, you knowLive there and get our stuff together so that when we do move out, we don't have to go backYeah, right. I agree with that. Like I want to leave and I want to leave knowing that it like especially because I have a kidI don't want to bounce around. I want to get somewhere and I want her to feel like she has a homeLike have roots somewhere. Yeah, yeah
01:05:02My grandparents have lived in the same house for as long as I can rememberAnd I can go back and my room is still pink with ugly hearts and stars and my initials that I hand painted on the wallRight and it's home to me. You know what I'm saying? And that's a good feeling to that. That's my safe placeYeah, and I want her to have that. Yeah, and it takesWork it's not as easy as people think like I didn't get on a tv show and I'm not rolling in moneyRight. Yeah, maybe if I showed my ass, I would be. Would you ever go back to stripping? Hell noNo, absolutely not only because I can't accept that from my daughterRight, and I don't want to set an example that I wouldn't I can't explain that and I can't that was a time where you
01:05:39Did what you had to do at the time, but we're in a new placeandI didn't have any consequences. I didn't have any when I answered to you know, I didn't have any really real directionI was just doing whatever I wanted to do right now that I do know that I have a daughterI would never because I would never want her to look at meIt's like there's so many other things that you can make money. Your brain is a terrible thing to waste and your bodyWill not look how it will look in a couple yearsSo girl do not think you're going to be a stripper for the rest of your life because once that drop once this drops
01:06:06You're gonna be paying a lot of money to get and put it back up. Are you gonna be broke? That's it. Just like thatOh my god, yeah, it's not a forever career. And when I was working there, there were some 50 year old strippers. Really?Yeah, there was plenty of them that were old and I was just thinking like you don't want that to be youLike you're probably someone's grandma. Right. Yeah, not not no shade because girl if you got it, you got itOr if you need to do it, you need to do it. Yeah, but but you're but the but to think that you're probablyNeed to be at home nurturing your grandkids or whatever and you're here and it's it's almost hurtfulYeah, you know because empathize and a lot of strippers don't stack like they get a lot of moneyAnd then you want to get Gucci and Louis and Fendi and all this stuff, but it's like what good is I've taken the bus
01:06:48What good is Gucci if you're on the bus?So a lot of people get caught up in the lifestyle and they get off the game and they're still brokeYeah, and they have to strip you know what I'm saying. So it's just you you give more than you get you give yourselfAnd you get you may get a couple dollars. I still may take the pole dancing class just for my own personalIn case she wants to just FaceTime me girl. I'll give you some deetsI'm gonna FaceTime actually like how do I do this? I got you like on the pole upside downAnd then it just snaps off the ceiling. It's fine. Oh my gosh. It's fine. Thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate itThank you for having me. Let us know where people can follow you and tweet you and all that stuff
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