Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 83: Teen Mom Reunion, Dr. Pimple Popper, & Single Mom Struggles

Episode Date: June 13, 2019

This week Kail & Lindsie talk about Kail's mystery illness. They discuss Jenelle & David & the Teen Mom Reunion. Kail reveals why she was upset over the half siblings comment & why Teen Mom is pushing Lauren on her. They talk about Dr. Pimple Popper & why Lindsie loves it! They discuss single mom struggles. They talk about an altercation at Burger King & someone taking a bath at Wendy's. They talk about Iggy Azalea's leaked nudes & why Kail would send pictures of her feet for money. 

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos. We're coming at you from Dallas. We are at Hotel Crescent Court in Dallas, Texas and having a blast. I'm not having a blast. Well, I'm having a blast. I'm happy for you. So I feel like I should bring the blast vibes. Yeah, do that because I'm not, I mean, I took steroids this morning and it was honestly a shit show trying to get here.

Can you please tell our listeners your journey to Dallas? Yeah. I feel like we go through this every time. So let me elaborate for you guys. I had already changed my flight for other reasons and then I went camping over the weekend with my kids and when I was coming back home on Monday, Memorial Day, I went straight to the doctor and they told me I had strep. So they gave me a nice old shot in my butt of steroids and then I got antibiotics and

then I got prednisone for the next six days and then my flight was delayed and my gait was changed and I've just been kind of miserable. And I feel like I'm a trooper because I've sat next to Kale with the shits and now I'm sitting next to her with strep throw or possible flu. I'm not sure if she's lying to me or not. This is like the mean girls thing where you're like, I'm sorry I told everyone about the time you had diarrhea and I'm sorry for repeating it now. Exactly.

I feel like it's been so long since we've done like an episode of just us. Yeah, in real time and I feel like so much has happened in pop culture and life and all the things that I'm like, where do we even start? Well, I know one place to start and it's the most common question that we've gotten on Instagram since we recorded last and it was for us to cover all information regarding Janelle and David and what our thoughts were on it and I'm going to let you take it. I mean, oh my gosh, okay, well, they announced that Janelle was not going to be on the show anymore.

Did we talk about that at all? We have not talked about that at all and I do want to say after watching her segment of the reunion, this seems like something that had been planned and was coming down the pipeline. Oh, for sure. And I do want to touch on the reunion stuff. Nessa called her out about the Colin Kaepernick posts and Janelle claimed that she didn't know who Colin Kaepernick was and that she didn't post any of the stuff on her page and

then it was David that did it. I think that's what she said. But I do feel like, in a sense, like Nessa said on the reunion, you have a responsibility and an obligation when you're in the type of light that she has as many followers as she does. She has a responsibility and an obligation to have control of those pages and if you didn't post it, good and great, but it has your name attached to it and you have allowed somebody to go on your page and post on your behalf.

So again, it falls back on you. I mean, yeah, just to that point, I feel like I also have those clickbait things and I don't know why I thought that she had David post that stuff about Colin Kaepernick. I don't know. I mean, regardless, it doesn't matter. Maybe because you post on her page about everything else. The one person that runs my clickbait stuff, I will ask him not to post things or I will tell him I'm deleting this because that's not something that I want on my stuff.

But a lot of the girls do it. At first, I didn't understand why people were doing it and didn't understand that people actually get paid for it. Okay. So a lot of people have also, when we've done like the ask your questions on Instagram, people have asked if that's something that is ran on y'all's pages, Teen Mom Cast, if that's something that's ran through MTV. No.

I think people just don't understand why it's on there or whatever and it's, I mean, it's clickbait. It's clickbait. You get paid for it. So, I get it. But they don't, it's not like they're texting us and saying, hey, this is what we're posting. This is what time. That's not how it goes.

They just have full access to all of the social medias. And they just post, is it always Teen Mom or is it? No, sometimes it's Kardashians, sometimes it's other huge news. I think the Duggers have been on it or whatever, like, I don't know, I don't pay attention to it at all. So. So, in the reunion, when Janelle was on the couch and Dr. Drew had said to her, do you think that you guys could all be on stage again together and was asking her questions

and was like, you know, I hope to see you here next season or whatever he said. I don't want to quote him because I don't know exactly, but it almost seemed like that was a plug that was placed there to kind of write her off. Do you know what I mean? Like the way he asked. I don't remember seeing that part so much, like I kind of just got secondhand embarrassment so bad that I just kind of like tuned out. I just like tuned out a little bit.

I remember her crying about Colin Kaepernick and her saying something about like, we're so mean to her and we alienate her or something, but like, she really did it to herself. Well, I feel like she's done it to herself when she's allowed David to control every aspect of her life. And that's sad. I feel bad. Like that's honestly, it's heartbreaking because I feel like she's probably in a place where she does love him and she wants it to work and she wants him to be better, but she doesn't

want to leave him either. Right. So I think that she's probably holding out and hoping that it will get better and it's just not really getting better. In regards to the kids and the dog stuff, we're going to cover that. So don't want to get too terribly deep into that, but do know that we are bringing you guys some information on that. So just stay tuned.

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When every single person on the cast has children that are half siblings except for Caitlin from OG. Right. When he was talking to Aubrey or when he was talking to Chelsea, didn't say anything about half siblings. He didn't say anything about half siblings, doesn't say anything to Jenelle or even Brianna. And I'm like, why do you keep, like they edited out the part where he had said it multiple times before in this whole segment, right?

So they edited that out. So then I got mad out of nowhere, but it was like passionate, not like anger. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. So I was just frustrated by that. And yeah, and I think I've talked about it before, like I'm annoyed with how much they try to push Lauren on me.

Watching you and Javi sit on that couch was so hostile and I could cut the tension with a knife. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I just kind of don't understand, and this is going to be probably the first time that I've ever said this on the podcast because I've tried to just like stay neutral. What?

But I don't know what you're about to say. Lauren is not a teen mom. No. She's like, it's trying to be brought into the show that Eli is, you know, part of this, like she's now one of the moms and it was brought into the reunion about his birth and all that. And that's good and great. Like I understand that's one of Javi's other kids, but I know that it's kind of been said

in the past that she didn't want any part of this and whatever, but it's like, really, is that really how you feel? No. Because if that's the truth, then why are you pushing out ads on Instagram every day? I hope she loves the check from the platform we've given her. And it is really irritating to see and, you know, I've said it before, like I just don't think that she needs to be a part of the show and they cut that completely out of the reunion. So was she not invited to the reunion?

Oh, I'm sure she was. I'm sure she was, but she didn't go, I guess, or she couldn't go. I'm not really sure. And I mean, I just don't understand, I would feel a type of way if I was in the situation that you were in and then another woman gets involved and then is using my kid on advertisements. Well, and that's when I messaged her myself. I said, do not put my son in any of your ads. If my sons are in any of my ads online, they're getting a fee for that.

My kids get paid to be in my ads. So you're sure as shit not going to turn around and do a $200 post and use my kid for free. I think this works. Well, and it's just, y'all already have such a not good relationship. Like there's turmoil. Yeah. So to do that, I feel like it just fuels the fire more and it just keeps things stirred

up for no reason. Right. You know, it's like it could just be completely avoided altogether, but don't act like you don't like the platform, but then you're using it. Right. It's like one or the other. You either like it or you don't. And if you don't like it, that's great, but be completely removed from it.

Right. You can build yourself as, you know, a blogger on Instagram. Your personal blog. Agreed. Moving on. So much other shit has happened. So let's talk about it. So tell me about Costa Rica.

We haven't talked about it. Oh, that's right. Okay. So Costa Rica was a blast. It was a dream. Honestly. Leah and I went with a couple of our other friends in, um, that's my dream vacation, by the way.

Oh, we're, we're taking you. And I know you were like, you should come, but didn't I just get back from me? Mexico. Yeah. You were in Mexico. So you, yeah. Um, I almost died in the white, in the raft when we went whitewater rafting. We have to post the, um, clip of you almost dying because it's really my entire life flashed

before my eyes. Like I literally flew out of that boat and I was like, this is it for me. But I was like, at least I'm dying in Costa Rica. That's very morbid, but it was a happy place. So, um, we went repelling off mountains, jumped into waterfalls, climbed up waterfalls, um, went ziplining, um, it was really awesome. It was a great vacation. I feel like we need to film us going on a vacation because you would be doing all of

those things and I would be next to the beach side with a mojito. Listen, we saw baby tarantulas in the jungle. That's not fine. And lizards and poisonous frogs. It was so cool. But why did you feel safe because I didn't touch them, but they're just like out, like roaming around. And there was like a web of the baby tarantulas in the tree.

So like it didn't bother us. We didn't walk through it. No. It was really cool. No. You need to observe nature. No. No.

They say like to plant yourself like in nature and like go barefooted. I was like, you know what? This is the perfect training for naked and afraid. So I think I'm ready. I think you're not. But going back to your camping trip. Were you intense? No.

We did a cabin. Kale, that's not camping. It's glamping. Glamping. My son corrected me and told me it was glamping and I said, okay, and he wants to do tents next time. But I said, let's try that in the backyard first. So if I did a tent, it would have to be like raised and have to have like air mattresses

and stuff in there. Yeah. Because I don't want spiders in there. Yeah. And I'm scared. Like no. I just feel like they would be like wet and damp. Yeah.

Musty. I hate that word. Ew. Do you like that word? Musty. It's like musty and crusty and moist. But it's wrong with you. Those are the worst words.

No. Don't you agree? Yeah. If anybody is listening that here's musty, crusty or moist. When I think of musty, I think of like a man, like a BO smelling man. That's what I think of musty. I think of like. Like what?

Like damp? I think of like a basement. Yeah. That's like just smelly. Okay. But musty is like a specific like smell, like, you know what I mean? Like it's not, maybe a man smells like it. That's probably from like poor clothes washing, you know, and it's like they like their clothes

like. Yeah. Like sit in the washer. Yeah. And that's like musty. Yes. We could be totally wrong. So if we are, please don't come at us for it.

What are your summer plans? Summer plans. Um, I'm going to Hawaii in July. I'm taking the kids. We're going to try this again. 2.0. Um, I'm bringing help for the first week. So Lux's preschool teacher is going to come help me with Lux for the first week.

Oh my gosh. I love that. She's so great. And he loves her. That's so cute. So, um, she's going to come and I'm figured like that first week I can take the kids to kind of go do the older kids to go do stuff that we couldn't do if Lux was with. Right.

So, um, Isaac really wants to do the shark dive and they both really want to do the Jurassic Park. The shark dive I saw on, um, it was like a blogger or something like influencer, whatever it is on Instagram that it was one of those like keep clicking and you see these pictures. And it's like, um, she got attacked by the sharks by trying to take like a picture laying in the middle of them. Because here's the thing. People don't listen to the instructors when they go.

She was just trying to get a good pick. I get it. I get it. I mean, I will go to the ends of time. Yes. To get the pick. But in a situation like that, you need to listen to the instructor. And when we did the, both times I did the shark dive, they are cage free and they tell

you about the equipment that you're using, the cameras you're using, they have, um, you know, the frequencies and the sharks are attracted to them. So that's number one. Number two, you always keep your eyes on the shark. Always. You turn your head. They're going to come check you. They're going to come see what's going on.

There's a hierarchy in sharks, right? So like, you don't get afraid to put your children like, if Isaac wants to do it and we do it the right way, we can do this. Okay. You're having an anxiety attack and you're like, what if Jackson said that he wanted to do it? What would you do? No.

It would just be automatic. No. Okay. Cause it's not, it's not safe. It's not fine. And I think I need to convince you not to let Isaac do it. He really wants to do it. He's been wanting to do it for years.

I get it. But that's like saying my child wants to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, like, cool. Glad that you want to do that. Glad that you're fearless. But that's like literal death. But also could be literal death. Sharp death. Shark bites.

Have you ever seen Shark Week? Yeah. I love it. Isaac loves it. Terrifying. I watch Shark Week. Maybe Isaac just comes on the boat. He comes.

I get in the water. He doesn't. He watches. And then when he gets a little older, he gets in the water. I'm going to vote. Would that make you feel better? Yes. But I'm going to vote that Isaac sees it and thinks that you're psycho.

He's seen all the videos. But he's going to see videos. Not in person. Totally different thing. But you don't see them above the water. That's like me watching a video of somebody popping somebody else's pimple, but then I have one and I try to go in the mirror and pop it and I'm terrified. That's, there's no correlation.

It is. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's like me watching Dr. Pimple Popper and like thinking it's so cool and then me getting one and then going in the bathroom and being mortified. Like I'm not mortified whenever I'm watching it on somebody else, but then whenever I'm doing it to myself. There's no correlation.

There is. I'm going to watch someone else get their pimples popped that grosses me out, but I'll pop my own. I don't want to watch Dr. Pimple Popper. Actually, I did the doctors with her. You did? Yeah, I met her. I did the doctors.

Did you pop your pimples? No. Oh my gosh. I wish she would pop my pimples. Ew. I don't even have any. I kind of want some just so she'll pop them. I can't.

I cannot watch that stuff. I love it. We actually have a video from high school. I was really good friends with this girl in high school that used to pop like all the senior guys blackheads, and she really liked doing it, and I would like take videos on my smartphone. I'm going to throw up currently. I'll probably go on my old Facebook and retrieve them so you can see it.

No. I don't want to see them. I don't want to hear about it. You do? Because we were basically Dr. Pimple Popper before she existed. When she told me who she was on the doctors' behind stage before we walked out, I was so confused. I think I was mortified.

I was like... Does she announce herself as Dr. Pimple Popper? I don't really remember. I just... Or does she have a name? She was... It was when she was brand new. Yeah, no.

I think she... I don't know, actually. She was brand new, and I was just like, what in the fuck is going on? Well, she's well, and I like her. Okay. You guys have heard us talk about self-care on the show, so let's take a minute to talk about one way to practice self-care, which is through therapy. And there's an awesome new app called BetterHelp that lets you get therapy from anywhere.

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So you guys are going to Hawaii. Yes. What are you doing? When I get back from Dallas, I'm going to Great Wolf Lodge. You said that you went to Kalahari. To Kalahari, yeah. So Great Wolf Lodge, I did not realize, because I had seen it advertised on Facebook and stuff a lot, and seen a lot of people posting about it, but never really knew what it was.

I thought it was just like a campaign place, like I had no idea what it was. No, it's really cool. And then I saw a commercial on TV, and I was like, oh, maybe Jackson would be interested in that, and it looks kind of like a more luxurious place if you didn't do that. I'm like, okay, well, I'll take him to do this. So check into it, and I'm like, okay, this looks cool. They have the rope courses. You took the boys to do for Isaac's birthday, right?

Yeah. Oh, the Great Wolf Lodge? Yeah, they have, it's a special pass that you have to get within it, but I think it's called a wolf pass or something, and they get to do those rope courses. They have like putt putt, they have like a build a bear type thing in there. They do like kids yoga in the morning. That's cute. It's like really cute.

So, and then they have a thing for summer where they can do s'mores and like camping stuff. So I was like, oh, well, this is cute. But one of my friends went and took her daughter a few weeks ago, and she was like, it's something that you just want to do for like two or three days. And you had said that about Calahari. Yeah. So what was the experience?

Like is that indoor and everything? It's the whole thing is indoor. We didn't do any of like that other stuff that you're describing. I'm not sure if Calahari offers it or not, but as far as like the indoor water park aspect of it, it's like two or three days and you're done. Like you know, unless you're going to do like what you're describing, maybe take one or two days to go do the indoor water park and then the rest of the day is to go do what you're describing like the s'mores and like the rope stuff, the putt putt you could do in one day.

But like the water park itself, definitely two days. No more than that. Yeah. Cause I was kind of like, I'll get, I like riding slides, don't get me wrong, but I don't want to do that for like five days, you know, so we're going to do that. And then just like for a weekend or I think like, I don't want to say the dates, but no, you don't have to like three days. Yeah.

Okay. Perfect. And so we're going to do the water park and then I thought we would do like putt putt in the evening and kind of like break it up so it's not all just like water park cause I'll get so tired of waiting in the lines and stuff like that. It was nice when we went, Becky and I try to take the kids to go do something for Christmas because we don't celebrate Christmas together or anything, but that's like our thing. And I don't know where I was going with this.

We went for a weekend and it was not too, too crowded, but when we were leaving, I guess people like go for the holiday, right? So as soon as we left, like the crowds came in, well, I wanted to go during like the week time. So that people are working and that's not because it bothers me, but it's just like if it's less crowded, it's so we'll, we'll go with you guys or will he be working? Oh, that's good. He's working, working, working.

I think that man's like never working, no, really, if his boss is listening, he actually does work, but I'm just saying, I just like to give him a hard time, you know what I mean? Funny thing, we had talked about the words with friends a few episodes ago and a girl had gone on our Instagram page and said, wait a minute, my mom's name is that and she's that old and she's from where you said she was from. Was it her? Did it end up being her? I don't know.

She said that she was going to check because she said that she normally only played with family, but she had like a huge all time win record and it sounded like her and I'm like, Catherine, that's your mom. Are you playing with my husband? Yeah, she has to be. So she was like, I guess you can play with like just like your friends on there or you can play with the public. Yeah.

And I've played with the public. And then a lot of people have sent messages, like screenshots of people messaging them the exact way that Eddie Maxi messaged will and it's like the exact same like talking and everything. And I'm like, okay, first of all, are they robots then? I don't know. But it's like the exact same thing. Like people tagged me on and on Twitter, on Instagram, sent me like screenshots of this

and I'm like, wait a minute, words with friends. It's a crazy world out there. Like, I didn't even know that we're doing that fall under like the social media category. I think so. Or an app. Like falls under like the app, but I guess that's social media. Because you can talk to them and you're playing a game. So I wonder.

Yeah. And then somebody said that they met their spouse, no, they did not know they did on the Instagram. I'm not even making it up. It's on Instagram. Tag them in our story so I can see it. It's on there. I promise.

It's underneath the comments. They met their spouse. They met with friends. No way. I want to hear crazy stories of where people met their spouses. Like words with friends. Instagram. I think it's weird.

Yeah. I don't really think meeting your significant other on Instagram is that weird. But words with friends, that's a stretch. Why is it more stretchy than Instagram? Because it's words with friends. Like you're not seeing their pictures. You're literally. Yeah, you are.

You have, you have one picture on there and you see their picture. I feel like it's actually less weird than Instagram because I feel like Instagram is like creepy. But like Instagram, you can see what other friends that you have follow each other. So maybe there's like mutual people, mutual circles, like areas like words with friends. It's more stalkery. A shot in the dark. No, no, no.

Instagram is more stalkery. You think? Yeah. Because I feel like you're spying on the person like, Oh, well, you know, this person, so I'm going to go and get some information from you and find out how you know them from that person. And I mean, versus like words with friends, at least, you know, the people are like caring about their brain and care about like mental exercises, mental exercises.

Yeah. Like Instagram takes zero mental. Okay. If you guys think that it's less weird to meet your spouse or person, significant other on words with friends versus Instagram, please let us know. Please do. Because I'm going to go words with friends and Kale's going Instagram all day. Yeah.

Speaking of Instagram stories, though, a lot of people have sent messages about posting the letter from the working mom. And I did post that on Instagram story, but I just wanted to remind you guys that those do expire within 24 hours after they've been put up. So if you aren't actively following the account, make sure that you're actively following it and turn your notifications on. Yep. Turn your notifications on.

So then you'll see every time that a new episode goes live, there's a post on the Instagram tells you what we're talking about in the episode allows you to leave comments, interact with us and the stories, um, I always post stuff in stories. So, um, if you are not following us, you can do that on Instagram at coffee combos podcast. And we don't have a Twitter because we refrain, um, from arguing with people. Yeah. Basically, basically, because enough people argue with us on Twitter, just like about us.

Yeah. It's just, I think there's actually a parody of us to be honest. There probably is. And they probably mock all the dumb things that we say, which is fine. There's somebody called like L W. Diablo. Diablo. Diablo.

Yeah. That person's like my troll. Yeah. She trolls Kale. And now she trolls me. She hates me. And I'm like, thanks Kale. You're welcome.

For making me have somebody that hates me now. I mean, not that there's a form of flattery hate me, but I'm just saying like now, now she's after me. Well, you know what, it's really flattering that someone is taking up that much time to dedicate to you. I'm not comfortable with it, though, to be perfectly honest, like some of the stuff that she says, um, I'm not fine with. So if you're listening, L, DEL, whatever the hell your name is, please do us, um, stop.

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multiple times. What? Yeah. So just so that you guys don't have to go and look it up, I'm going to kind of read the article because it was super interesting to me. So time out by multiple people or the same guy? I'm not 100% sure, but it says that the Arizona nursing facility states that according to doctors who examined her, the woman had likely been pregnant before.

So after this coming out, people obtained a copy of the notice that was filed. And the state of Arizona was proposing a $45 million settlement to a civil lawsuit that relatives of the victim had filed. And the filing said that the doctors at the facility believed that the pregnancy was likely a repeat event. So obviously meaning that she had likely been pregnant before. And it cites the findings of significant scarring in her private area, which according to the doctor is evidence that she was likely violently sexually assaulted and violated on multiple

occasions. The filing also stated that she had experienced severe physical and emotional trauma as a result of likely months, if not years of repeated violent rape and assault. The guy who's DNA matched the baby has pled not guilty, which I don't see how you do that. Although that the victim could not ask for help or verbalize her fear, she could recognize body odor and she can recognize voice. So every time that she was assaulted, it would have likely caused her to have severe emotional distress and fear that she was going to be sexually violated again.

Okay, so I remember we talked about it, but I don't remember what the answer was. So she knows what's going on around her. She just can't verbalize it. Yeah, like she can feel pain. She can feel pain. She can smell. She can recognize voice. So she knows what's going on, but she can't verbalize it or okay.

So she knew that, okay, and the baby, who's caring for the baby? Do we know her family? Her actual family. So it also said that in the filing that the facility didn't give the woman any medication to ease the pain of the pregnancy. Well, they didn't know, did they? Or they did know. So they said that at least 83 opportunities, the medical staff at the facility misdiagnosed

her pregnancy despite the ample evidence, including that she did not menstruate in the months leading up to the birth and the staffers noticed a large, hard mass in her abdomen on three occasions and that her stomach was characterized as distended during 24 examinations and the nurses checking on her noted that her private parts appeared swollen. So what the actual fuck is going on due to the alleged failure to notice her pregnancy and pregnancy? Staff allegedly prescribed laxatives for the mass in her stomach and reduced her calorie intake in response to her weight gain.

The victim at the facility, since she was a toddler, lacks sufficient understanding and mental capacity to make decisions or give consent for her medical placement or financial estate and suffers from quadriplegia, recurrent pneumonia, and a seizure disorder according to her medical records. She's been in there since she was a toddler? Yeah. Why? Wasn't it a drowning incident or something?

Oh, I can't remember what it was. I remember. But it was like something like... But she wasn't born with... No. No. There was an accident. Accident, yeah.

Yeah. So, first of all, I don't understand how you plead not guilty to something that they have DNA evidence. You clearly have, right. You know, like why would you do that? And I'm curious to know if she was sexually assaulted just by him or by others. Right. I don't know.

That's horrifying. To say that she had significant scarring. I mean, it leaves scar tissue after every pregnancy. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, there probably was something.

So, would that mean that she miscarried? Probably. That's horrible. And I wonder how long this man worked there and like how long... This had been going on. Yeah. I mean, it clearly stated it could have been years. Could have been years.

Yeah. That's terrifying. That's terrifying. So, I just wanted to... Update. Update on that. And then we had received yesterday on Twitter people... I don't even know where this information was coming from, but supposedly online people

were saying that my dad paid to get coffee combos started and I don't even know where that came from. If it's on... Like, what's that website thing? Reddit? Reddit or... Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.

I don't know if it's like on there or where it came from or where people saw this, but I know I got the tweets about it. You got the tweets about it. And then it said that I thought Kale asked you to join the podcast and MTV has control over who your guests are. That's completely false. Then somebody goes on there and says, successful podcast that was paid to get up and running by Lindsay's dad.

Don't act like you didn't come up from Joe's parents' basement, then realized your spot on the show would be gone unless you got pregnant again and again. So then I just simply responded and said that we are flattered that you value our podcast so much that you think that there was a large sum of money behind pushing it, a degree in marketing and mass communications, finance the success. So then people, the same group of people go back on and comment, like, how does a degree finance something? Well, that shows the lack of you having a degree because my brain and her brain financed

it and financing something doesn't necessarily mean money, like, to get something going, to sustain something, to market a business, to be passionate about a business. All of those things are factors into something being successful. So I'm not quite sure if that came from Reddit or where it came from, but I just wanted to clear up that there was no financing coffee combos. Not from anyone. So we wanted to do a podcast. Lindsay said, do you want to do a podcast?

And we just did. And MTV has no control over our guests or what we talk about. No. Anything that we do on coffee combos is because we want to do it and because we feel like it's a relatable story that somebody that's listening is going to benefit in some way out of. So this podcast was intended and always the intent is to bring you guys content that you can relate, makes you feel good, makes your brain think, maybe make you dumber on some days.

Definitely. I have definitely lost brain cells myself. Same. Kayle makes me lose brain cells every time she misses a flight. What did Adam say to us? What did he say about hell? Oh, that it's proof that we put him through hell and that's proof that you can survive it.

Yeah. And it's fine. You know, it's fine. We're out here doing our thing and loving talking to you guys every single week and hope it continues until we're old and gray and I don't want to get old. I'm going to do any experiment I can to stay young. I hope I'm like those grandmas remember when Vine was around and there was like grandma best friends.

Yeah. Yeah. Like dancing on them. Oh, we're still going to do this. Yeah. We're still going to be doing this whenever we're like that, except I'm not getting old. No, I'm going to do all the things. If you're looking for something to give your dad or celebrate your new grad this year,

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I can do a podcast. It's silly to me. Yeah. And if you want it to be successful, then you can do that and just do it. I don't know why they want to give other people credit for things that we did. Exactly. So moving on from that, got a message about the working mom and they say, hi, my name is Victoria.

I just had the time to listen to the latest podcast and towards the end, you guys were talking about working moms. I'm definitely not single, but I surely know the struggle. I work from two to 10 PM. My son is in school from seven to two and I'm able to get him ready and cherish walking to the bus stop. It's hard working full time and never seeing him, especially since my ex gets Friday through Monday every other weekend.

She's going to start having 50 50 week on week off and I'm not sure if I can handle it. It seems like I never have enough time to spend with him or watch him grow. Now that he's getting older, he's into more independent stage and as well, it's bittersweet when I finally get a day with him, but he would rather ride his bike with his friends. I would be a stay at home mom if I had the choice, but bills are expensive and he deserves the world. Thankfully, he understands that mommy has to work so that he can have things, but I

thought that I would share my struggles. That's so hard. Like people don't talk about it enough. Like you want to have kids and you want to have these great relationships with them, but working, you, I mean, you have to pay bills, but also that balance between working and wanting to spend time with your kids is so hard and I don't think that people really understand it. And I can't say that I really understand it because I worked home from home, right?

And because I have a significant other, you know, so it's not like I'm doing like the single mom struggle. And even when Will and I separated, I lived with my grandmother. So I also had her, you know, so it was never like I was just like by myself on my own ever. So I don't fully know what that would be like. I will say the most time in my life that I could relate to that was when Will was still working retail early in our marriage and right after I had Jackson and he worked long hours. So by the time he would come home, Jackson would already be in bed.

Right. And those retail hours are not set. They're not set schedule. So he would get a new schedule every week. Yep. I remember that when I first had Isaac, it was, I think back about it all the time and I'm like, I don't remember when I saw Isaac, like I don't remember because I literally went to school and then I went to work and then I went to my second job right after that

and works until 2am. Right. And then I had to be up at six or seven with Isaac to get him to daycare or the babysitter or whoever he was going to. I don't remember, like I have pictures like spending time with him, but I don't remember how I did it. And I feel like now it would be so hard to like, you know, I get to see them grow up and do all the things, you know what I mean, but 50-50 with Isaac and Lincoln really works

for us. Well, so you have 50-50 with Isaac and Lincoln and 50-50 with Chris? No. Okay. We tried it, but Chris works full time. So he's gone Monday through Friday from 6am until sometimes 7pm. So it just doesn't make sense for him to, and then we live an hour apart. So it's too hard to get, you know, Chris would have to wake up at like four or five to get

Lucks to school to only spend a couple hours with him before bed. You know what I mean? Right. So, I mean, his family does have Lucks this week while we're podcasting, but it was planned weeks in advance. Right. So, but then when I get home Friday, like Chris will have the baby for the whole weekend. Well, I feel like it's so hard too when you have parents that are in co-parenting situations

and don't have similar working schedules, because then you're working against, not only are you working against the fact that, you know, you're not in a traditional family setting, but you're working against the clock, you know, so then that's a whole other thing. You know, so I appreciate everybody sending messages. That wasn't the only one we got. We got tons and tons of messages, but, you know, we can't read them all, but yeah. I sympathize with you and I wish I could say that I could relate, but I can't, but I know Phil can.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, and other news, um, funny story that I saw online about a woman attacking a Burger King manager, um, after she was denied French fries. What? It's happened in Miami, um, Florida, of course. Of course. She was shocked or never.

So initially this lady, 42 years old, went through the Burger King drive-through, um, asking for free fries, and then she went inside the restaurant and caused a distraction, um, while the second suspect jumped over the counter. And then after hearing the commotion, the store manager came out of her office and noticed the second suspect and, um, the police said that the manager tried calling law enforcement but was stopped and the second suspect began to hit and kick the manager. Um, and then they left in a black SUV and that was all I said over French fries over somebody not getting free.

First of all, why are you asking for free French fries? I don't understand. I really don't get it. Did you see about somebody in a Wendy's restaurant taking a bath in the kitchen sink and why did you send me that? Because sometimes I'm getting the four for four at Wendy's and now I can't even trust it. I've never gotten a four for four from Wendy's.

I actually haven't eaten at Wendy's in probably a year, but why are you taking, like, if you're homeless and you need a bath? Wendy's was my first job. Really? I had to work at Wendy's. It was a punishment. I worked at McDonald's, so. It was a punishment.

Okay. It's made me work at Wendy's. For how long? I think it was like two months. So probably like eight weeks. I probably worked like eight times probably, but it made it seem like it was like forever. Yeah. I don't understand.

I mean, if they're homeless, I can't really be mad at them, but like, did you do it as a joke where you just messing around? Why would you take a bath in- No, I said it was employee. Yeah, but why? Maybe they were homeless. No, they had to have an address to fill out- But maybe they used relatives or a friend or a homeless shelter. Isn't that fraud?

I mean, if you're trying to get a job- I mean, I get it, but I'm just saying, like, maybe they wanted it to go viral. Maybe they didn't care if they got fired. That's gotta be a felony. That's unsanitary use of the restaurant. Can you imagine like the amount of pubes it was like in the thing? Ew. Like, can you?

Oh, no. I'm so disgusted. When I saw the video, I was like, first of all, why did Kale send me this? Because I can never- Was that also Florida? I don't know if it was Florida or not. How do you know that? Okay, definitely. Because that's the only place that like crazy stuff comes out of, Florida.

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corn cob. So this man is 27 years old and allegedly pelted his mother with a corn cob around 2 a.m. Deputy said that the cob hit the woman on the top of the head, but she was not seriously injured. So who called the police? So it was reported that the 27-year-old left the scene but was later arrested, and the record showed that he faced a charge for domestic battery and is being held on a $150 bond.

First off, $150 bond. I bet the mom bills amount. That's like $15 to get out. Really? How does that work? Well, like how does it, if you have a bond, right, I thought you had to pay that amount of money. So like when they say like, when someone who's like, it's 10% why, so then what's the point

of giving them the big number? Why not just give them the 10% number? Because they want to make sure that you're going to show up at court. And they have to make it worthwhile, like everybody might not have access to the same amount of funds. So depending on the charge. Then maybe don't commit crimes. Well, definitely.

I definitely agree. I'm just saying that some people might have access to be able to get out for $150, but maybe the next person might not be able to. But $150, if you paid $150, that means your bond was $1,500 and so you have to get a bondsman. So like when you watch like the murder stuff on ID, I don't know if you watch any of that or like Lifetime and they're like $5,000 bail bond or whatever. They only have to pay 10% of that. So why are you giving them the $5,000 bond?

Why not just say it's $500 or whatever the case would be? Because they're the, so they have to pay the system, I guess, to get out that $500. And then the 510% of 5,000. Yeah. Okay. And then they have to get a bondsman and then the bondsman basically vouches for that person saying they're going to show up at court. If they don't show up at court, then the money is owed, the $5,000 is owed, but you're

also going to get a warrant for your arrest for failure to appear. So then you're going to go back to jail. Or they just leave you in jail because nobody's bailing you out. Well, yeah. So you can either choose like, let's say you go to jail and then your court date isn't for like six months. Yeah. But probably it's going to be like way before that, but because you have an initial hearing.

So it's probably like two weeks or something. You can sit in jail and not pay anything for two weeks and then go to court and then they can release you and you don't pay anything. But a lot of people probably aren't going to want to wait two weeks to get out of jail. So someone's going to bail them out for the 10% of the, but what I'm saying is why, why I don't know, I don't know what you're asking. Yes. So like, what is the point of that?

Like if you're not going to pay that $5,000, why are you even setting that as the amount? You might as well just set the amount to the 10%. Yeah. Whatever it is. Yeah. I don't know. That's dumb. Yeah.

It's pretty dumb. I hate Florida. But what's also dumb is why somebody would hit somebody on top of the head with a corn cob. Can we talk about two things? Yeah. Go ahead. Rihanna is releasing a luxury brand Fenty.

How do we feel about it? What is Fenty? It's like a luxury brand by Rihanna. Oh, I think I saw somebody posting about it actually. Yeah. Yeah. It's like panties or something. It's panties?

I thought it was. Wasn't it? Isn't it? Well, I know she did Fenty Beauty or whatever. Oh, you're right. lingerie by Rihanna. Yeah. Hmm.

All kinds of stuff, I guess, there's just like a luxury brand, like a ton of different stuff. Yeah. Okay. Um, I don't really know how I feel about it because honestly, I didn't really know about it other than I saw somebody post about it and I was like, cool, it's like Victoria Secret except Rihanna. Yeah, I mean, and I don't even chop it Victoria Secret.

So, um, and then the other thing that I wanted to bring up was the Iggy Azalea leaked nude photo shoot, but was it leaked supposedly, or did she leak it? Supposedly the photographer that did the photos, he said that the photos were stolen from him and then leaked. Oh yeah, right. That was it. And I think they were taken in 2016 or 17. Oh, wow.

But she looked great. I would be really pissed if somebody did that. Yeah, it's really upsetting, but I mean, I saw the pictures and they looked good. Yeah, she looks really good. She has nice boobs. Um, that's still like humiliating, I feel like, if it wasn't planned, you know what I mean? Like that's still like your mom or your like boy cousins are going to see that.

What if my grandma's on Instagram? Right. Like that's just really uncomfortable, you know? Yeah. Like I'm not trying to get hit up. So I felt bad about that. Like by granny about nude boobs, you know? She shut down all her social media because of it, because people like men were posting

like their fantasies about her and her body and it like, I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. Kind of like how I was creeped out by the people asking me to send nudes, no, send pictures of my feet. What? Yeah. When? This happened like a lot of times.

Like what do you mean? Email. Are they paying you for them? Yeah. They said that they would pay me for them. How much? One time somebody sent me a thing and was like, they would pay me $1,500 if I sent them a pair of my high heels that I wore.

Okay. No, that's crossing a little bit of lines, but is it not crossing lines about like seriously not crossing lines if they want a picture of your feet? Wicky feet. That's a sight. Wicky feet. Okay. Well, what if I'm on it?

Be getting paid. That's if you're on it. No, wiki doesn't pay. No. Wicky feet, the people might pay. I'm not sending pictures of my feet to anyone unless they're paying me. I'm telling you that right now. I'm not sending pictures of my feet to anybody even if they are paying me.

Oh my gosh, wait, I am on wiki feet. Look, Kale, I am on wiki feet. You're lying. What? You sent those? No. You sent those. Those are on my Instagram.

No, because your feet are in them. They put them on wiki feet. Yeah. So when we post things to social media, that makes it public. Like people can take those photos and use them for whatever when we do that. Yes. So I have a profile on wiki feet. Like that's, that's violation.

Okay. And people will always comment about my feet. Like it's weird and it's nice things that people say and I don't even like my feet. Like I hate my feet, but moving on from feet. I wanted to tell you what this person said about something that you had posted on your Instagram story. They had said, I absolutely love coffee combos and you guys are such a great duo. First of all, thank you.

But then somebody commented on that and said, I love coffee combos. I laugh and learn above all, we hear the real in you both, not the edited for the drama effect MTV wants us to see. We get what you want us to. I get what I want a sneak peek of the daily kale and I love the f bombs and all Lindsay. You're by far the perfect duo and duo and podcast only complaint is it's once a week. Keep doing you kale. You're doing an awesome job and your kids are thriving and handsome.

So I thought that was super sweet. That is really nice. Thanks. Somebody sent. And yes. Like obviously teen mom is a completely different platform and I think that you watch it back and you're like, you hate some of the stuff, but sometimes it's like, okay, but that's the real things.

It's like going on, you know, when it's hard to watch, but sometimes I feel and I've talked about it before. Like I do feel pigeonholed. Like I feel like I'll never come out of the storyline or the characteristics and things that they portrayed and they have portrayed since I was 17. So that's really hard for me when I'm trying to show that I've grown and I've flourished and I do recognize my mistakes and stuff. And I take accountability for them and they don't show that and they don't show the positive

things and like I'm not bitter and I'm not just talking about my baby dads all the time. So I think in that aspect, I wish that they would do more of that, but it kind of give it, it's fine because we have the podcast, I'm able to just like express myself in a different way and show myself in a different light through the podcast. So I'm happy in that way. Yeah. And I think just in fairness, you know, to the show, I think that the platform is just totally different.

And I think that if they're showing all of the great things and they're not showing the struggle, then they're not portraying the struggle of being a young mom and you know, going back to where you started at 16 and pregnant, right, you know, but I do think at the same time, you're not 16 and pregnant anymore. No, but I feel like I will forever be 16 and pregnant in America's eyes. Yeah. But like you've evolved and I think that that's where sometimes it's lacking the like where you have evolved and it's focused on like more of the drama stuff.

And that's why people are loving coming to the podcast to see a different side and hear other parts and aspects of your life that they're not getting. Yeah. I mean, they can only show so much in the three minutes that I have in every episode. Right. So like here I can give more backstory, more information, more of my side and kind of explaining things, explaining things the way that they're happening versus like an edited down version. Right.

Because just like you said earlier in this episode that, you know, Dr. Drew had said things that was edited out and made you look like you were, you know, coming out for no reason. Yeah. For no reason. Back on that though, you and I had talked about dad's babysitting and we've talked about that in our real life too. And I totally respected Chelsea for correcting Dr. Drew, correcting him.

So more to that on Twitter. I'll pull it up right now. Let me see. She, Dr. Drew, people were coming at Dr. Drew on Twitter based on the daddy babysitting comment and he responded to a couple people and said, hmm, what are they supposed to do? What is the term for taking care of a child when the mother is away these days? Please enlighten me. Daddy sit, baby daddy care time, insta mom care, Uber parent, hashtag teen mom too.

Here's the thing. He seems like a real men's activist. You know, like a real like, I am a man. But is he though? Because he's saying that they babysit. So I'm saying like, he's like pro man, like thinking like all everything's like women's responsibility. You know, that's like the way he's saying that, like the caregiver is the woman, right?

Like that's very old school. I just thought that was a little weird because I'm like, no, if the father is a parent, the father is, I just feel like when a father is with his children, they're parenting. They're not daddy sitting. They're not babysitting. They're not watching. They're just parenting. So why, what do you mean?

Is there a term for it? As I said earlier, it takes two to make one. So it should take two to raise one and not, I don't feel like, and I mean, I might get bashed for this, but I don't feel like moms should be like pigeonholed into this thing. Obviously, we're going to do more. That's just like natural instinct, you know, but dad should have responsibility in their raisings of a child. That's why that's why it's like a parent ship.

Like that's why if I think there's an uneven balance of parentship and there is a lack of responsibility on the father's part, maybe in certain situations, it is daddy sitting. It is babysitting. Yeah. But I think in a healthy home, especially like Chelsea and Cole's, Cole is not babysitting his children. He's taking care of his children. Right.

So that was annoying. I just don't really understand the clap back because I'm like, right. I don't understand what he was going with that. Right. I mean, is he just trying to protect himself because he now feels like a fool for being overly abrasive when saying that the dad was babysitting and now he's trying to like make people understand like where he was coming from. There's no, you're not making sense.

Yeah. You're not making any sense. They're not daddy sitting. They're not Uber parent. Like what are you talking about? They're parenting. Right. They're parenting his kids when Chelsea's not around.

I mean, but do you feel like Javi is babysitting Lincoln? No. Or is he parenting? He's parenting. Okay. He's being a dad. Yeah. But I feel like you and Susie and I have had this conversation before about being the

working mom and when dads are watching, if you went into a meeting or whatever, I feel like it's a common question. If people know that you have kids, common question to the woman, oh, who's taking care of Jackson, who's taking care of the boys. They always, who has your kids? Well, who the fuck do you think has them? Their dads. They help make them.

Like what do you mean? That's so frustrating to me. It's very, very frustrating. I hate that. I feel like he's always looking for like to diagnose somebody. Yeah. And I mean, I think everybody has problems, but not everyone needs a diagnosis at all. And I don't think that you diagnose on national television and a 30 second clip.

No. That's for sure. Not at all. Yeah. I think it's crossing lines and it's, there's a boundary that you respect and I understand like his job is to try to like dive more into the issues and get a reaction. Like I get that, but at the same time, sometimes it's the wrong reaction, you know, and I think he defends sometimes the wrong people.

And I would be curious to see what his reaction and response to all of the Janelle stuff going on because in the same reunion, he said that he thinks that Janelle is doing better now than she was at 17. In a sense, I would agree. What sense would that be? Well, if you go back to the fact that she was like smoking on her mom's porch at 17 while her son was in the inside, her son was inside, but with somebody who was responsibly taken care of him.

Right. Now she's doing things in the home and outside of the home that directly affect the children and are the children literally got taken from her. Right. So really what is better? I think that she's tried because she was so, I don't want to say messed up, but like kind of, you know what I mean, like she had so many problems that she's tried so hard to get out of those problems.

But sometimes it's such a cycle that she's maybe gotten better at covering up the problems. And so the persona that's out there is that I'm better. But maybe, you know, when I say better, she has a home that she lives in consistently. She has a quote unquote functioning home life, you know, until you really get into the problems and you know, like behind the scenes stuff, you know that a lot of that's just a facade, you know, but like, I could see where people would think. Why he would think that. Why he would think that.

Okay. I mean, Dr. Drew, honestly, is probably not watching every episode of Teen Mom. And probably not following up on all the things that are being aired, right? Like on the media, not necessarily on the show itself, but like the things that we talked about off the mic that have been going on in the house and on the land. Okay. Fair enough. So I could see what you're saying.

So I see it, you know, from that perspective, but also I think with anything when you, when you go down a path that she's been on for a long time, I think that you either completely spiral out of control and there's like no return or you just get better at covering up like along the way. And I think that she's gotten better at covering up things along the way. She's gotten smarter about what she puts out there and stuff. Yeah. And I think that David is horrible person.

I'll just say that, but I don't know that necessarily everything that has been commented to us directly has necessarily been David because some of the things that have been sent to the coffee combos Instagram page, some of the things that have been commented on my personal Instagram, sometimes the way that things are worded seems like they might be coming from another, another party other than David, but using David's name. Really? Yeah. So I will leave it at that and I will pull up some of the comments and screenshot them

so that you can see what I'm referring to, but I think that's probably all we have time for today. We have a lot more coming next week, so I hope you guys stay tuned for that. Thank you guys for listening. As always, if you have not followed us on at coffee combos podcast, you can do that by searching the purple podcast app on your iPhone, click subscribe, click the fifth star and leave us a written review. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

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