Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 87: Kail's Nudes, The Hills Reboot, & Love Don't Judge

Episode Date: July 11, 2019

Kail talks about not backing her phone up to the cloud because she's afraid of nudes leaking. They talk about "Love Don't Judge" on Snapchat & question what the appropriate age gap is. Kail finds out she's on Wikifeet & why she thinks the photos are unflattering. Lindsie talks about her first commitment with Will. They talk about The Hills Reboot & why they have concerns about it. Kail talks about her disastrous trip to Panama & why she ended up leaving early from unsafe conditions.

Hey guys, welcome to Coffee Combos, Lindsay, it's been three weeks since I've seen you and talked to you. I know, well, not talk to me, talk to me, but like, it's been... Like, in depth for Coffee Combos. Yes. Um, can you please tell me about your phone situation? Okay, first of all, okay, so I have two phones, I have a work phone and my personal phone. Two phones.

Kevin Gates. It's like, my entire life in it, and then my work phone I use for like, if we get like, if I was to get like an Instagram deal or like anything like that and have the companies call that number, I don't have any contacts in it besides like, my son's dad and my assistant. Well, and you know what I mean, like, I just don't have numbers in it. So, I already had a cracked screen on my personal phone and like the ink, have you ever dropped an iPhone and like the ink like runs or whatever? Okay.

Like it's like a blob, like an ink blob, you know what I'm talking about? Well, I do know what you're talking about because I've dropped a MacBook and that's happened, but I'm going to go ahead and knock on wood and say that I have never cracked an iPhone screen, but watch me say that and then like... It happens. Yeah. We're not going to manifest that. Yeah.

So, I already had, like my whole screen was already cracked, but I was like thugging it out and like letting it rock like that because it worked and I didn't really want to pay for a new phone. I just didn't want and like Apple is an hour away and like, yeah, Verizon works or whatever, but like, I didn't want to like replace the screen and shit. So long story short, I dropped it again and it like just like completely, I don't shit the bed. So, I said, okay, fuck, like the next day, I think it was like a Sunday or a Monday.

I don't remember. Went to get a new phone at Verizon. Cool. Got it. But they were not able to transfer even my contacts or anything. So I was like, okay, that it'll work for now, like it's annoying, but like, at least when people text me, I can be like, hey, I got a new phone, but who is this same number and everything like that?

Well, for whatever reason, I went to go put the password into it and it say it locked me out for 15 minutes, 15 minutes again, and then it locked me out for an hour and then it completely locked me out altogether and it says like plug your phone into iTunes and it's like, okay, cool. But like I still, because my phone wasn't backed up to iCloud because I'm paranoid about like my nudes leaking, I like didn't do that. So long story short, the Verizon store said to take it to Apple. Well, that's great and all, but I have company here visiting from Florida until Wednesday

and I'm not going to take an entire day. Apple's an hour away. So it's like to drive there, make the appointment, stay for the appointment, transfer everything. It would turn into like a several hour thing. So I can't go to Apple until Thursday. So I've been just kind of like on Instagram and Twitter through my work phone, but like not too much because, and also it's like a form of communication, but it's just been like a real pain in the ass to be honest.

So now you have my work phone number and in the event that my phone breaks or I can't get a new phone on Thursday, at least I have communication with you. Well, I honestly feel like we're living like in the olden days where, okay, I don't turn my notifications on on Instagram. So right, neither notifications are on, then it would just be like nothing but Instagram notifications. So I'm like, no, no, thanks opt opt out, whatever. So I feel like I have to check my Instagram ever so often because I'm like, kill probably

sent something. So I check my messages and then sometimes it'll be like seen, but like she didn't respond back and I'm like, okay, bitch, like respond back and might be important. And then I'm like, well, maybe like Kristen's getting them for those of you who don't know who Kristen is, that's Kale's assistant. I'm like, well, maybe Kristen's getting them and she's opening them. And then Kale's like going back in like later. No, she's not, she's not opening anything personal.

She doesn't open like there's certain things that she opens and certain things she doesn't. But no, I just am so used to like responding later and I don't have my read receipts on. So like, I forget that it says seen and then I feel like an asshole. So I'm just not good at this and I hate actually DMing. Like I don't like it. I would rather someone text me. So because of the read, like I just like an extra thing to check that I don't want to check.

And so then I'm like, well, fuck. And then I didn't respond. And then it's like, then I have to keep the conversation going on Instagram and it would just really be easier if you just texted me, but then I don't want, I'm glad you have this number because if this does happen again, you have it. I'm just like, it has on the flip side been kind of nice to not have my phone being blown up in text messages by like everyone, you know what I mean? Like it's been kind of nice because it's like on my terms, I check my DMs.

Exactly. You know, I wish we could actually all live like that where it's like, we don't have that instant communication to where you have to like go the extra mile to check it, and it's not just like right there in your face, because when it's right there in your face, you have a sense. Well, I say you have a sense. Let's be honest, everybody's seen my phone. And for those of you who have listened, like are listening that don't personally know

me, I don't open a lot of messages, which is really annoying. But I just, I don't know, like I'm just like weird like that, but I do open like messages that I probably should immediately get back to. And I, if I see somebody's name come up on my phone that I know probably I need to be in communication with, then I have a whatever something in me is just like I need to open that. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. No, I get it. Then I feel a sense of like, crap, I need to respond. It's like, okay, so that's why you don't open your text messages because then you feel the need to respond. It's not necessarily about, okay, because it's almost like this is really weird, but it's almost like, I know I got it, but if I don't open it, I don't feel an obligation to respond.

But if I open it and I read it, then I feel a sense of like, okay, that's rude if you don't respond, but it's also equally rude not to open it. Yeah, probably, I would agree with that. I mean, there's no real winning here, I guess. Have you ever noticed that you can either be cute or comfortable, but it feels like you can't ever do both at the same time. Thanks to Rothy's shoes, you can be cute and comfortable. Rothy's shoes comes in four styles, the flat, the point, the loafer and the sneaker for

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We all know this, but I've been watching on Snapchat this thing called love don't judge. Have you seen this? Okay. No. Okay. It's like I'm not subscribed to it, but it'll like pop up on my feed or whatever you call it on Snapchat. I'm not really that good at Snapchat, but I saw it on there and I was like, hmm, what's

this about? I'll watch like makeup ones or, you know, whatever. So I literally sit there and watch for like as long as the thread is and it's like lots of snaps and it's this girl on there that's a 24 year old YouTuber and I forget what her name was, but it's basically about like all these people being with each other that have like these huge age gaps. So like this specific girl was 24 years old and her girlfriend is a 61 year old woman. Oh, wow.

37 year age gap. And she was talking about how she was really scared about taking her girlfriend home to see her mom because her mom is younger than the girlfriend. Oh, wow. And I'm like, Oh, well, that's kind of interesting. Like what do we feel about this? So I just thought it was like something fun to have conversation about because I feel like so many people feel like a different type of way about stuff.

Right. And for me, I feel like if I didn't watch the same cartoons as you, then it's probably not a thing. Right. Right. Right. Because we maybe intellectually or just different like life phases, I guess. I want to be like in the same life phases, somebody, not somebody that's like lived a

substantial amount of time longer than me. And then they're kind of like, I'm not going to say 61 is like the end of life, but you know what I'm saying? Like they've already lived like their younger years. But I don't know. Like I don't know how other people feel about it. If it's weird, the weird thing is, is when I watch it, I didn't really feel like it was weird because I don't really care because it's not me doing it.

But if I was doing it, I wouldn't be doing it. Does that make sense? Yes. So tell me, would you be doing it? Like if you were 24 years old and there was a 61 year old male or female that you were attracted to? No, I would not. 100% confidence you would not.

100% confidence I would not because I feel like we wouldn't have anything in common. That's what I feel. I don't think that I could do the sexual things with someone that's like 20 years older than me. I just kind of feel like, oh, okay, that person was like grown and gone from their parent's house when I was like coming out. I know that's a no, they could be your dad. They could literally be your dad.

And like that's what I would think of. Like they would be my parent. Yeah. So if you're listening and you have an experience with this or if you are significantly younger or significantly older than your significant other, then let us know. Just because it's something that is interesting to me. I like to hear people's takes on why they go one way or why they go the other way. Some people I know in my real life that like only date people that are like 10 years older

than them. And it's a thing that's weird to me. So then at that point, I'm like, okay, since you only date people that are like 10 or more years older than you, does that make it a fetish? Maybe not a fetish, but like a preference, like some people will only date people who are older than them. Like wouldn't even just date someone that's like a year or two younger. So maybe it's not necessarily a fetish unless like that's what you're seeking out.

I don't know. Like I don't, I truly don't know. I don't know either, but not really changing the subject, but kind of changing the subject. I didn't want to let you know that I'm not the only person on wiki feet. You're also on wiki feet. I'm on wiki feet. Yes. No, I'm not.

I never put myself on there. You don't put yourself on there. They make this up of yourself. I didn't freaking put myself on wiki feet. Are you nuts? I'm going to Google right now. Like I'm literally Googling as we speak. You really are.

I swear you are. It's like pictures of like a lot of pictures of your feet. You actually have more pictures of your feet on there than I have pictures of my feet, but that's understandable because you're always barefoot. So like, oh, I'm always, okay. It's called like wiki, like Wikipedia. Yeah. Like wiki feet, wiki feet.

And what do I do? Well, my name, yeah, oh my God, celebrities, oh my God, no, this can't be real. Okay. First of all, they have really, first of all, that first picture is not even my feet. So that's a lie. Second of all, they have like really unflattering pictures of me from like two years ago. And my, the back of my legs looks like cottage cheese. So that's really unsettling.

I think I hope they're not like that still. Well, like two years ago, you were pregnant. So if you didn't have a form of, if you didn't have any form of cellulite at any point in your life of like a major time that you've gained weight, then you're not normal. So I'm kind of glad that you did. I can't believe this. Why is this a thing? So what do they do?

Because it's fetishes. It's fetish people. Yeah. But this is a fetish. I don't know if the age thing is a fetish until it's like, I completely just like made that up. The people that date 10 years older is a fetish. Like I'm so full of shit.

Okay. So now that you found yourself on wiki fee, I love that. Some of them are not even my feet though. But the fact that you can also be bothered to the same sense that I'm bothered, it's kind of like that thing. Like you don't wish like bad on somebody else, but you kind of like want somebody to understand with you. So I'm glad that you can like really understand that it's creepy.

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Yeah. Let's hear it. Okay. So have you ever been on Facebook and you see like all of those videos of like making these meals and stuff or like a recipe? No. No. Okay.

Well, I don't know why it comes up on my Facebook and not your Facebook, but it does probably because I watch them. Probably I watch it like one time and then it like made people think that I liked looking at recipes. So then they just put it on my feed. So I will just be on Facebook. Like if I can't sleep, I'll just be on Facebook for like hours looking at these freaking recipes that I'm never going to make.

Right. Like what am I doing? I mean, I've seen, I've watched these like little, I think they were on Facebook also. They were like these like mini, they make like baked goods with like mini, mini utensils. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. But like why are we watching this stuff? Like why am I watching this?

I'm not going to ever want, like I'm never going to make them and I'm also never going to, like what am I doing with this knowledge? Like I'm not even doing anything with it. Like why am I watching this? I think they're on Twitter too sometimes. That's how I feel. And like I will get so invested in one of these recipes and it's kind of like I'm in the kitchen doing it, but like I'm doing none of the work.

I'm actually just laying in my bed like watching people do all of this work that I'm never going to do. And I'm like, okay, this is a total waste of time, but I don't realize that I've wasted time until like two hours have passed and then I'll be on like my 12th video and I'm like, okay, I should probably go to sleep now. I hate when that happens. Yeah. It's like, it's seriously the freaking worst.

So over the weekend, Della got sick on like her bed. She threw up on her bed and I don't know. Like I've always kind of had a dog like in various times of my life, but I'm not like one of those people that can like diagnose a dog or something. You know, like if something happens, I'm not going to be one of those people that knows how to like really know what to do. So first of all, Jackson hid her bed and she was upstairs like walking around and I was like, Della, go get in your bed.

Cause I'm thinking like her bed's where it's supposed to be. So like go get in your bed and the bed's nowhere over there. And I'm like, okay, well, obviously I'm stupid. Like I've been telling the dog like 20 times to go get in your bed and there's no bed. So Jackson's taken her bed to the basement and he brings it back up here and I have like a towel in her bed so that she can like curl up on it. And then she has her bed. So I'm like, Jackson brings the bed up here and it's got like brown throw up in it.

And I'm like, oh my gosh, where's the towel? Cause like this couldn't be good. So first thought is like sanitary things, obviously for me, I'm like, oh my gosh, Jackson, you need to go take a shower and like where's the towel cause you've been like rubbing your hands all over this and like this is gross. So he brings towel up, throw up all over the towel. So we'll take the stuff upstairs, like puts it in the wash, you know, gets it clean, everything. But she's been like really weird since then.

This happened on Saturday and today is Monday. So it's been probably like 48 hours since this happened. But I thought, well, you know, a lot of things that you read talk about like female dogs that were neutered or spayed, whatever you call it. She got fixed at six months and they say that they still have like a kind of like a cycle, but they just don't, you know, it doesn't menstruate or whatever. So I'm like, well, maybe she's just like having her period or something. And so she's been laying in her bed, will scramble her an egg, wouldn't eat it like

her food, won't eat it. I put cheese on her food cause normally if she won't eat, she's a really bad eater, but if she won't eat, if you put cheese on her food, she'll eat it, wouldn't eat that. So I'm like, okay, well then I started getting worried cause I'm like, well, I don't necessarily want to, you know, take her to the vet because anything that you read online is like unless dogs really have to go to the vet, don't take them cause I put them in kennels, they can get like kennel cough, like all of this stuff. So I'm like, oh, I don't want her to get sick like while being sick while there.

So like I'm just going to kind of watch her. So I opened up a thing of chicken broth cause it has, you know, like salt in it and it's chicken flavored. So I was like, okay, well maybe she'll drink a little bit of this and it'll like make her pep up or something. So I gave her a little bit of chicken broth and she drank a little bit of that. And then I gave her a little bit of peanut butter. She loves peanut butter and she wouldn't eat it and I'm like, she's got to eat something.

So I kind of like made her eat it and then she's just been sleeping in her bed. So I've got to make her a vet appointment for after this so that I can take her to see if there's anything wrong just because I'm kind of scared. I don't want to like wake up and something happen. I actually have, I'm sure you guys remember me talking about Gotti, which is a Frenchie that I had gotten for Chris like years ago. Um, he, I have Gotti now. He had a vet appointment last week.

He's been like throwing up and like sick also. Um, I've been giving him white rice and chicken. Yeah. I didn't, I really didn't have like the time to like boil the chicken, like frozen chicken breast or anything. So I got like the white canned chicken and then like the one minute rice that you like microwave and I've been giving that to him and, um, it seems to be helping a lot. So maybe try that.

Yeah. I just, my concern is like the, her not having any liquids. Like I did, I figured my thought process was if I give her peanut butter, she's going to be thirsty. So then she will naturally like, if I can get the peanut butter in her, then she's going to keep licking. She's going to be so thirsty that she's going to have no choice but to drink. So then that worked.

So she really did. But a lot of Della too is like she milk stuff. Like she'll, like she's very like dramatic about stuff. And I've heard other people like having small dogs that say they're, they're dramatic, but anytime Della doesn't feel well and it's happened before, like where she hasn't felt well, but I just don't know like when her cycle comes. So right. I don't know if that's what it is or if it's not.

So I don't want her to get sick at the vet because you see all kinds of dogs like coming in and out of the vet, like some that, you know, I just, I just don't know. So I've tried to avoid it, but now I'm kind of like getting a little bit scared. So everybody should keep both of our dogs and your prayers because we need some help y'all. I bet everyone listening can relate to the fact that you want to be healthier, stronger and feel better, but you don't know where to start. And that's why we love Noom.

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Okay. Well, so yeah, he, that's another story for another day. But this is a dog that we got when we were dating in college. And it was kind of like we, we started dating so young that we weren't really like ready to get married, but we were ready for like more of a commitment. So I think we felt like, okay, if we get a dog, it's kind of like a baby, you know, that's something that you have together. Right.

Like we're committed. Right. And I go online and I find like this multi-poo breeder and I wanted like an apricot one. And Will's like, okay, like we'll get it and you know, I'll pay for half the dog and you pay for half the dog. And then it's like 50, 50 yards and I'm like, okay. So end up like getting this multi-poo. She turns out to be chocolate, not apricot.

Will was really pissed about that for a long time, but I was working full time when we got her and Will was, it was like in the summertime. So he just had baseball just like randomly, like he played summer ball. So it was just like randomly, it wasn't obviously like a team, but I think they had like one game a week or something. It wasn't super strenuous. So he would take care of Della during the daytime and whatever, while it was at work. So he probably should have known at that point that I was going to be a psycho whenever

I had a kid because I would tell him like, okay, if she goes outside and like she gets on the grass, you need to bring her in and like use these baby wipes and like wipe her hands off because she might get like a fungus or something parasite on her hands and then get sick. You know, so he probably should have realized I was going to be a freaking psycho, but I've got to find these pictures and I know where they are. They're like in my storage here, but Will would like have photo shoots with her. She was like tiny, like really, really tiny, like maybe like a pound, really, really small.

And he would take these photos of Della while I was at work. It would be like he would place her in his baseball glove and like take a picture. And then it would be like he would put her with baseball bats and like balls and like take pictures and then like her sleeping upside down like on the couch or like her, her upside down like in the recliner. We had a play pin for her. So she would like play in her play pin and he has like all of these photos of all of this crap.

And I'm just like, what kind of psycho am I actually with the fact that he was like doing full on photo shoots with like baseball gloves and shit with like a Maltipoo, like what? But he loves her. That was his first child. Yes. And so whenever we had Jackson, she like started biting me like right before I had him and I don't know if she knew like there was something like changing and like a baby was coming, but she started biting at me and it was like vicious, but she had the tiniest teeth.

So she couldn't really like break skin or anything like she was just vicious. And so whenever we brought him home, I was super paranoid. I was like, oh gosh, like she might not be able to break our skin, but she maybe could break his skin. So now she lives with his parents and I swear like she holds a grudge towards will because every time we go to will's parents house, she's so mean to will. Because she loved him and he, he did sure for a lot, like I had to, I get it though. And that's like a touchy subject for some people, but I do see like why you guys had

to re-home her and he, she was kept in the family. So you would think that she would be happy. Does she like nip out like will's parents or anything? Um, she, she's just like very, I don't know like what changed in her like that made her aggressive. And I don't know if anybody's listening that like knows a lot about dogs and stuff, but what I read was just like poodles can be aggressive. So like maybe it was like the poodle in her, but she had never been aggressive before that.

Like it was probably four or so weeks before I had Jackson and I would like take her outside, put her in her crate, um, before bed and she would turn around like once she would get in her crate, she would turn around and just like go to town on my hand. But for no reason, like it wasn't anything that I did. I would just, you know, be making her go in her crate. She always slept in her crate at night. So I don't know if she just like sense that we are bringing like a human cause she was basically like a human.

We treated her just like a person. Um, I don't know, but it's, it's really weird and she, she's perfectly fine with Jackson, but right after I had him, it was really, really weird. She was possessive. Like she would get on the back of the couch and like be perched up like a cat or something like where he was laying and she would watch him and it made me super scared. Um, I wouldn't have taken, I would have done the same thing that you did with rehoming her.

I think that that, that's like a risk that you were taking. So well, and then I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, like I think worst case scenario about everything. I'm like, okay, well, if I know that she has these tendencies or she has displayed these tendencies and then something does happen to him, I'm going to have to be honest and say that like, I knew that the dog, you know, was doing these types of things. I'm not going to take him into the doctor's office with like half of his face, you know, like bit, um, and say that like I didn't know what was going on. So I just felt like that was the best thing, but I don't know if anybody else has had any

experiences like that or not, but if you have, then, um, send me a message and make me feel better about myself because it was a really hard experience for us. Like the drop off to like take her to Will's parents was horrible. Yeah, I can, I'm sure we'll get a ton of message messages. I remember, um, when my friend Morgan was looking for a golden retriever, I like posted it for her and she was wanting to like rescue one and like a ton of people messaged like needing to like re-home, but like didn't want to drop him off at like an animal shelter or whatever.

And it can be devastating. Like you get this dog not thinking that you're going to have to like give it up or like it's going to be aggressive or anything like that. So I mean, that's super tough. It is. It's super, super sad. Did you know that some companies only pay a few dollars to make a shirt and then they mark up the price without telling you?

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bottle and it was either one or the other. They were all into it and did it and they kissed people or nobody played that game. I'm like, no, actually everybody played that game. I played that game but we would do it and we'd be like, oh, you're supposed to kiss that person and then you just never did. It was like, we never actually followed through with what you're supposed to do. Right. So it was just pointless.

You guys were just sitting there and spinning it around. I was too scared to do that. But then it caused the question for a lot of people to ask about if we remembered the game Seven Minutes in Heaven. Yeah, I remember that very clearly but I never played it. So you never played? You never played? No.

I never played either. I was never in a situation where we would have played that. I was never at a friend's house in middle school where guys and girls were all there. That wasn't a thing and even by high school it wasn't a thing anymore. So I was never in a situation to have been able to play and I also wouldn't have participated. Well, exactly. I'm like, okay, first of all, I don't even know what I'm getting myself into. I'm paranoid Patty anyway.

So obviously I'm not going to be getting myself into something like that and two, I'm scared of the dark. So I'm not going in the closet with anybody in the dark, period. Even if we're not doing anything, even if we're just sitting in there, I'm still not going in. So that was just a question that we got a lot and if you're listening and you have played Seven Minutes in Heaven, please comment on our Instagram and let us know what your experience was or if you were the same as us and you never played, but knew about it.

Yeah. Yeah. Let us know. I'm curious. So curious. So have you been gearing up to watch The Hills reboot? No. I waited for your reaction there.

I'm at a point where it's like, okay, I want to sit down and watch TV, but like this summer, first of all, I cannot believe it's the end of June. Like I cannot wrap my head around that. And I feel like I've got absolutely nothing done, nothing accomplished and I haven't watched any TV. Like I literally haven't watched anything. I was able to sit down last weekend when the kids were playing outside. They were, okay, let me clarify that before I even go further into the story because

I know the trolls will eat me alive. They were, we have a fenced in privacy, fenced in yard privacy fence, they were on the trampoline and I can literally see them from my living room chair. So they were outside jumping and I was like, okay, like I'll put this movie on. So I did watch five feet apart, but that was like like an hour and a half, two hours. And I did have to like get up and like pick some shit up and like do other mom things and then go back and watch it. But I have not had a chance to like sit down and watch TV in at least a month, at least.

So I have not even seen anything about the Hills and I'm like, I want to watch it. But then also like, I did read something like months ago about like, Andrina can't have her kids on the show because of a custody battle or something. And based on my experience with reality shows, like I did watch Christine Cavalieri's show, I watched like one episode and first of all, it was like watching paint dry. Like it was so boring. I think when you take the kids and the mom and the relatable stuff out, the show is not interesting.

And so I'm nervous to see kind of where this is going to go because they did take like Lauren Conrad is not a part of it. And I don't know, like I'm nervous to see, I guess, like how, and they added Misha Barton, I guess, but like she was never a part of the Hills. So like what kind of dynamic is that going to add, um, I'll probably catch like reruns excited to watch it just because that's the show that I watched through high school. So right, I just want to see kind of like, since it's a reboot, how similar to the Hills it was.

And if it's going to be more real, because I don't know if anybody watched it, it won't listening at like the last episode, I think they pulled like the curtain. So you know, to basically let you know that it was scripted. Well, so I know that MTV is wanting scripted drama, like they want the reality, but scripted part like scripted drama reality. That's what they were going for in like Teen Mom, Young Moms Club and Teen Mom, Young Moms Club. What was it?

There was like two different shows. So maybe one of them worked out, but that's what they're wanting, but that's what MTV wants. And so I think that it's not going to be real more. Let me not say that. Let me not say it's not going to be real. It's not going to be more real. It's going to be the same type of, like it's the situations are real, but maybe like, I don't know, because I can't, I mean, if you look at like press and stuff, like I don't

think any of those cast members like really kept in touch other than like minimally and now they're coming together again for a show and now they're all going to pretend to be best friends again. Yeah, that's, that to me was like the weird part of it. Because none of them before this, like followed each other on social media, I don't think or anything like that. Like they all kind of like. But now all of a sudden they do.

Yeah. And they had like moved on with their own lives and it like Lauren Conrad follows none of them. Yeah. I mean, she's in a completely different space. I feel like I did see something on Instagram, like MTV Instagram and Jason is hot af. Like he is so fucking fine. Oh my, I can't, I can't.

I don't think any of them are attractive. He is so fine. Is he a dad? Cause he's for sure a DILF, like a hundred percent DILF. I'm shocked. I even comment. I commented on it. He's not my type.

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A funny thing about Will, we were watching reruns over the weekend and Will told me that I was like, first of all, why is a little country boy that played baseball? Why would he even know what the Hills was? I was so confused and he was like, well, I don't know, but everybody knew what it was and he said, I actually have a scar from where I was rushing in to watch the Hills and he got a scar on his arm apparently because he was trying to get in so fast to his house so that he wouldn't miss any of it. So must have been a big deal for Will.

That's actually really funny. I mean, I guess I could see guys watching it. I don't think that, I mean, I feel like guys watch Teen Mom. It's probably because Will never had a girlfriend and I can't even talk because I didn't really have a boyfriend either. So it's probably like he was watching it to like live vicariously through them and all the drama. That's what I think it probably was.

You know. Aw, Will. Poor Willard. Poor Willard. Oh my gosh, we did get a question on the Instagram page about if Harvey lets Lincoln go to the park alone. In our development? I don't know.

Do y'all live in the same development? Oh, wow. I just said our development like as if we're married. In his development? Yeah. I guess. I don't know where the park is, but that was just a question. So the park is very, very, very, it's like really close to the house.

I actually don't know the answer to that. I'm truthfully not sure. So it's probably just like the neighborhood park or whatever. He can see it. If Harvey steps out his front door and looks down, it's like three houses down, he can see the park. Oh, well, that's not any big of a deal. The message made it seem like he was going to like this public park by himself like miles

away from the house. Oh, no, it's literally on, it's on his street. I fricking highly doubt it. I highly doubt it. Can you tell us all about your short lived trip to Panama? Oh my God. I will tell you. So I have some friends that told me about this company that they were a part of.

It's kind of like a travel group. And so I was offered a room in collaboration with this company. Mind you, it's not a room through the hotel, but I guess the travel company partnered with the hotel. Okay. I'm in this room and I have to pay for my flights and stuff like that. And so I have to like do X amount of posts and tag the resort and the travel company in X amount of posts and stories.

I'm like, okay, cool. Like I'm super excited. I've never been to Panama and truthfully, it wasn't really on like my list of places that I wanted to go, but I'm literally down to go anywhere. So it actually ended up being pretty cool and I'm ready to go leave on Thursday. It was a short, a short trip while the kids were with their dads. It was over Father's Day weekend. So I wouldn't have had them anyway.

And I did have a layover. So it ended up being like a full like eight hours of travel by plane. And then another get to the airport in Panama and it was like a two out two and a half hour drive to the resort. Oh, wow. It had been. Yeah. Like it was a long day.

Wow. So we get to the hotel. Yes. Um, Leah was supposed to come, but then due to bad weather, it was canceled. So she rebooked a different flight. By time she rebooked the other flight, I had already got to the resort and I literally texted her and I was like, do not even waste your time coming here because the hotel is disgusting.

Um, we were supposed to share a room in when I tell you that there was an employee painting over mold both in the rooms and in the hallways. I wanted to vomit and then like, my God. Yes. Like there was like a painting in my room that had like mold spores all over it. Like you could just like see them like just sitting on the surface. And then, um, I did, we went in the pool and you, you get what, you get what you get in a public pool.

Like their public pools, you have to understand to some degree they are dirty, but when I'm talking like clumps of hair, dirt, tiles falling off of the walls, like it was absolutely disgusting to the point where I looked at my friend Leslie and I said, I can't continue to be in this pool. Like I can't even look at the water. Like it was that bad. So, um, I ended up going to the beach because obviously the beach is the beach and it was clean.

It was a little, not what I expected, not as blue as I expected, but, um, it was, it was a good temperature and like it was nice. So I was like, okay, we'll go back into the hotel. We get dinner. We sit down in one of the restaurants that's at the resort and we're eating and mind you, the food's not great. Like it's already not great, but we're eating it because it, we don't have any other options. Leslie is sitting to my right and she had gotten a dessert, tiramisu, and she bites

into it and she's like, this is so sour. Like something is wrong. Like this is disgusting. And I was like, okay, hold on. So I shined my like flat, my light, uh, phone flashlight on it and there's mold on it. There's mold on it. Oh my God. And I had told her when we went for breakfast that morning, she wanted to get fruit.

And I said, literally Leslie, like I could tell by the, like the way that the fruit was laid out, that it was the chopped up leftovers of yesterday. Like you could just tell. And I'm like, this is not, this isn't okay, whether I got this for free, this room for free or not. I still paid for my flights and my transportation to get from the, from the airport to the hotel. The fact that this is even a thing and nobody has complained and nobody has like reported this place.

Then so at this point, I'm not asking for money back. Like I'm not, I did a whole YouTube review with Nick and Leslie. There are the couple that we were, we were like meeting up with each other. Right. We did a whole like 20 minute review on, on it and put it on my YouTube channel. And I reached out to the resort and like was trying to like file a complaint not to get my money back. Like I'm not trying at my money.

I'm just trying to like literally fix the resort. Like want you guys to like fix what's wrong. And they may, they were like, okay, we got your email. Now can you click this link and complain here? Okay. Did that. Okay. Well, actually you don't get to complain that way.

You have to complain through the travel agency that booked you guys here. So you need to file a complaint with them. Okay. Done. Did that. They never followed through, never followed up. So now I'm trying, like, why are you guys making it difficult when it has nothing to do with the travel agency?

And it's literally the conditions of the hotel. Right. Like why would that be a travel agent's like responsibility? Like that, the travel agent has nothing to do with the rooms. So this hotel is called Riu Playa Blanca. And that's obviously in Panama, like I said. And they were condescending and nasty when they tweeted me back. And like I tried to do it the professional way first, like filed the complaint first

before we actually uploaded the YouTube video. So they once they like realized like I am going to jump through every single hoop you have here. Like I'm going to make sure if you send me a link to complain here, I'm going to complain there. If you send me 12 other links and I have to complain to every single one of them, I'm going to copy and paste and send it to whoever necessary. So once they, I think that once they realized that they started being very like nasty in

the tweets back to me. Well, I mean, in all fairness, you have paid for, whether you got like a comp stay or you know, whatever it may be, there's an exchange there either way. And there are people that have probably paid good money to go and stay there to experience that same experience. So right, you know, I just don't understand that. I have never had an experience like that, but it sounded like it sounded terrible. And the fact that you traveled that far, it's not like it was like a two and a half hour

flight to like Cancun. It's like eight hours to get there. And then you paid for that transportation for what? So then I paid, I texted Kristin, my best friend and my assistant. I said, can you please book me a flight home tomorrow? So I ended up, instead of staying until Monday, I left on Saturday morning, like at the Ask Crack-a-Dawn. And so I had to pay, it was a $365 exchange fee.

And then I had to pay $140 transportation fee to get me from the resort to the hotel. And mind you, there's no cameras in this hotel. There's no security cameras, like you can look around in the hallways and in your room, like around your room, there's no cameras. And so then I was like kind of sketched out because I had taken like a van, like a little bus to get from the airport to the hotel originally. But leaving, I wasn't leaving with a group. I had to, I paid $140 to leave at 4 a.m. by myself with this driver who doesn't speak

English. And so then I'm nervous just because of the stuff that's going on in the Dominican Republic with the tourists dying and the resort employees beating women. I'm not going to lie to you, I was a little afraid. So I'm like, now I'm paying over $500 more to leave early. So I was pissed, like I was truly pissed. Speaking of the Dominican Republic, did you see that story that came out about that she was an American woman and she was at the resort with her husband and one of her children

and maybe like a friend, they were with like family friends. And that she was beaten so bad by like a resort person. Employee. Yeah. Was beaten so bad and was put like in a closet area or like a behind. Yeah. Did you see that? Yep.

And there was actually a woman from Wilmington, Delaware who was beat so bad and survived. But why are they beating like Americans? I don't know what's going on there. I know they put a ban, I guess I heard, on travel to the Dominican Republic. But Javi's sister just left and took her son there. And I was like, Lydia, are you sure you want to do this? Like I told her, I was like, I'm nervous. Like I just don't.

I mean, she speaks the language and you know, whatever, but I was just very nervous for her. Like I'm still, she's still there. So I'm, and I'm still just kind of like, ugh. Yeah. That's, that's really terrible. I just don't understand like what the, what the motive is there, like just to beat the shit out of people or like, are they getting something from these people?

Like what, what's the deal? I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand. It really freaks me out. Um, yeah. Switching gears a little bit. So Jackson has been doing chores like for the past two weeks.

And, um, like on his list, it's like, I don't know. Like very simple stuff, like make my bed, brush my teeth, fold my blankie, um, play baseball without crying, um, eat all of my food on my plate, like very like simple stuff, but stuff that like he should be doing. And, um, he, he enjoys doing it because he knows he's getting a reward for it. So it's like our rule is, um, for these simple chores, like we're starting like more simple. So like for the simple chores, if you do, you know, it for five days that your chores each day, then you get $5.

So he thinks that's a big deal. So takes, okay. I mean, that is a big deal to him. I can see that he, he wants to get this home arena that's like wrestling WWE and they have it at Target and it's like $19. So I'm like, okay, well, if you work, if you get all of your $5 for the week, then it will take you four weeks to get it. So we're trying to teach him, you know, like how much stuff cost.

So, um, he only earned $3 last week because I guess he like didn't do it on two days. So then when it got like time for the end of it, I guess he was waiting on his $5 and it was like $3. It's like, well, you didn't show up for like your jobs for the other days. So you only get $3. So he has like a little Mason jar that has a lid and he's like got his allowance money up there and he thinks that he is so big, but I don't know if you dealt with this with Isaac or if you're dealing with it with Lincoln yet, but the level of independence that he's

trying to exert right now is like off the chain. Like he is rearranging my house. He rearranged all the decorations in his room. Oh my gosh. He took the dog's food, um, and bowls to my basement. Why? Cause he wants, he thinks it needs to be at a different place. Okay.

He thinks he's helping. Got it. Okay. And so like that's his, his way because, you know, he's doing it his way because he's the one that's like doing it. Okay. And I'm like, okay. So I literally just, you know how I like my stuff to be in order.

I do not like chaos. Yeah. Well, I let this go on Kale for as long as I could let it go on. And like five days was a huge stretch for me. And I was just like, okay, I can't friggin do it anymore. Like I literally can't. If you rearrange one more damn thing in my house, I swear, like I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to do something like stop rearranging shit.

Like there is no reason. Right. You need to be putting your toy box behind the door that we have to open to get in and out. Like that doesn't even make any sense. Right. And like all of his little signs, like I have the little signs in his room that like have like the sayings and stuff on them.

Sure. And we're in the process of like moving all of that stuff out and redecorating his room because he's, you know, growing. So he's rearranged all those fricking signs all over the room and it's like 12 signs all over the room, like in each crevice of like the place, it's like every corner has a, has a sign. And I'm just like, I literally can't not do this. I, I just can't.

First of all, the talk about me with summer camp. We didn't sign up for any summer camps, but his school offers summer camp starting in first grade. So next year he'll be able to go to camp and I already told him I was like, you're going to camp. Yeah. And he doesn't want to know he, well, this summer, he didn't really want to, but now I think that he realized, and I don't know if other moms that are listening have experienced

the same thing, but I feel like this has been my hardest summer with him since he's like been in like a school program. This has been the hardest transition because I feel like he gets bored a lot easier. He wants to be on the go. He wants to be doing stuff all the time. Right. Into everything. Um, he'll get out like crayons and markers.

And then when he gets bored with that, then that's like all stashed somewhere that what's not supposed to be. Then it's like goes onto the Legos and it's like, I mean, 30,000 Legos out on the floor. And I go downstairs and it's like, what the hell is this? Like what's this superhero costumes? Yeah. Yep. I can't.

I can't. Um, speaking of like the messes and like getting bored and stuff like that. So I have, um, I call him my nephew. He's not my nephew. He's related to Chris, but he really is like my fourth son. And I'm like, okay, I had him like the last three days and then like I had my friends, my friend, Shanika, her daughters were with me for a night. And then my friends visiting from Florida with her son.

And so it was literally like Kayleigh Daycare over here. And I'm just like, I don't know what it is about. And I'm not, it's not just these kids. Like I know it was like me as a kid too. Like what it, what is it about kids when they have their friends over, they feel like the rules and cleaning up does not apply to them. I don't know if it's because like, okay, we feel like they're occupied. And so we don't, we're not like on the floor, like playing with them anymore, you know,

when they have their friends over, right? So like they're playing with each other. So I don't feel the need to like check up on them and, but every time I would go to the basement to check up or say, you know, come get lunch or whatever, I would be fucking flabbergasted with the amount of trash that they're leaving around, like ripping stuff up. And like just like, for example, they were like swimming in the pool. And I was like, okay, like I have certain towels I use for the bath and certain towels

I use for like the pool and the beach. Go get three or four towels and then literally they'd come in, they would be bored with the pool. They'd want to come in. They'd want to do something else and they'd go back outside to get in the pool and take three new towels. Okay. No, this is not, this is not that we are not doing this.

You use the same towel you used earlier. It should have been sitting in the sun all day. So it should have been dry by now. And before you even think about doing that, go clean up all the mini muffins wrappers you left on the fucking floor in the basement and the empty juice boxes. I'm fucking tired of cleaning up after y'all. Like what is going on? Why do they think it was me as a kid too, but like, I don't think that I really have

this perspective until I realized like, Oh wow, like I probably did this as a kid also. But like, why do we feel like that's a thing? Well first off, you're not going to go and get in the pool and then get out and then come back in and play a little bit and then go get back in the pool. No, it's either you're in the pool or you're out, but like we're not going to play switcheroo. Like you come in and you've got on wet clothes because I don't like wet clothes on my furniture and stuff like that. Like you need to be dry and you need to leave your towel outside and let it dry because

a lot of times the pool, like the towels will get drenched and before, even before like I put them in the washing machine to get wet again for whatever reason, I still like let them dry before I put them in the wash. Yeah, because they're like dripping soaking wet. So what is it? Like what is it with these kids? I will go like downstairs where Jackson plays and it will be like where he snuck upstairs. He's gotten a gummy pack.

He takes it amongst himself to go and get his like many little kid scissors and like cut them open so he can get them open, leaves damn wrappers everywhere. What is it? I'm just like, okay, this is just not a thing and it's not going to be a thing. So you need to get your shit and you need to get it in the trash can and you need to get it in there fast because I'm not in the mood. You know what? And I think it's not even like the toys.

I don't care about the toys all over. I don't care about that type of stuff. But like, why are you leaving wrappers on my floor? Like I'm not really, and like Lincoln's the way my house is set up like the room above the garage is like it was like really like attic space, but we turned it into a bonus room with a playroom. So that's Lincoln's room now because he like Isaac wanted his own space. So he got a different room and then like Lincoln's still at the age where he has like a ton

of toys and then like Lux goes in there and they will like, I don't, they have that room and then they also have the basement. Like I really don't hang out in the basement. It's more like mainly for the kids. Why they feel the need to like, especially Lincoln and Lux, like not so much Isaac, but they'll bring the toys from the playroom to my living room. Oh, no, no, no, no. See, we just had this conversation over the weekend.

So clearly we're on the same page. I come downstairs from doing stuff in my bathroom and in my closet and they're superheroes lining my countertop and I'm like, okay, have we not had the conversation 95 damn times that you've been told not to bring these things upstairs from where you play with them. You do not need to be playing with them on the kitchen counter. I part of me is like, okay, let them be kids, but then part of me is like, I need some type of like mental break from like mom stuff. So like maybe don't bring the toys in the living room.

I literally just had moved. I had Lux's like little workbench, like, I don't know if it's like little tykes or like Fisher price thing. It's like the tool bench thing that was upstairs and I had like this little car that like you can like open the door and like sit in, right? And that was upstairs and I just moved it to the basement because I mean, Lux has been going up and down the steps since he was seven months old. No problem.

Never fallen knock on wood. So it's like, there's no real need for me to like have it up here so that he doesn't like he's fully running up and down the steps. So I'm like, this needs to go in the basement. Like it's time up. Somehow there's always toys in my living room and I want to throw them out the window. Oh yeah, or in a trash bag. Oh, I just like, right.

And that's what I told them. I said the next time I find a fucking Nerf bullet in my house plants in my fucking kitchen sink, I'm throwing it in the trash. I said that stuff too. I'm like, don't make me go and get one of those big black trash bags because when I get it out, I'm not going to stop throwing away until it's all gone. And Jackson's eyes get like as big as saucers like this bitch is really going to throw away my stuff.

Like. Yep. Really. So I wanted to quickly tell you, I don't know why I started doing this, but it's just like, I don't know if it's because I'm like old now, I'm, you know, getting old. But I started, I can't really do it when I'm at home. But when I travel, I go to like the bookstore in the airports and I've been reading a lot when I travel.

I finished this one book in two days. It's called an unwanted guest. It is a murder mystery. It caught my eye and then I was like, I don't know how, like the cover was a little weird, but like the, the title was cool. So I was like, okay. So I got that. I literally finished it in two days and I loved it.

It was so good. So if you like murder mystery books or if you're like wanting to start reading or like you want to test it out, that's a really good one. And I know I had told you guys about that one about Charles Cullen, which was like the nurse that killed like 400 people. That one, I finished that one. And then I did just get, I'm not really into self help books because I thought like they're hard to like keep my attention.

I did read, try to read the four agreements and I tried to read the alchemist, but I couldn't get through it. This one I do like, it's called the art of not giving a fuck, but it like, it's not necessary. Like, I don't know how to describe it. I, I put it on Instagram. It's not really like a read. It's like we, yes, it's a read, but like it's different than like any other book.

Yes. It's different. And also it's not, you would think that it's like about not giving a fuck, but it's really like about choosing what fucks to give and not to give too many fucks about the wrong things and like putting your energy into certain things. Like saying, um, there's like an analogy he uses that's like, um, by saying you're not giving a fuck, it doesn't mean you don't care at all. But like, I can't describe it.

I don't know. But the art of not giving a fuck, I just started it and I really like it. And it's not like a, a read like you would expect. So I definitely recommend it. And it's pretty short. So like it's not like too much to read if you didn't have too much time. But I did like that. But I wanted to just say that I've been reading more, which I don't know why, but I, I love

it. Like I'm glad that I'm doing it because you're trying to get yourself educated, you know, like, yeah, like I would wrap, and especially now that I'm not on my, like on my phone because it's not blowing up in text messages and whatever. It's kind of nice to like, just like do something different. It like feels good to be perfectly honest, like the month of July is kind of what I have set aside for myself to, I'm not going to say like, do anything because I have stuff to do.

And I've got like things like kind of planned days that I've got to get like stuff done. But it's kind of like my month that I'm going to really like scale back, just kind of enjoy the pool, enjoy friends that live around that like, I don't get to see often because, you know, I'm working or coming or going or they're working, coming and going, right? Just to use that time to spend with family and friends and cook out and like enjoy the fact that it's summer and that I'm about to have a kindergartner who starts school on August 1st. And as sad as I am, I'm also excited about it because I know he's craving it so much.

Like he needs to be in school full day. Yeah. And I'm sure he's so ready. So so ready. So I think that's all we have time for today. Okay. Well, I can't believe how fast that hour went. I know if you guys have not subscribed to us, you can do that by searching the purple

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